Shin Godzilla #17: Asians don't know how to use a camera edition

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also goji skeletals

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>>14618628

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There's no need to make these threads into generals.

>>14618628

MADMAN

>>14618639

is that the tip of the tail or the 'head' of his first form?

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>>14618750
earlier on he has great big googly eyes

https://youtu.be/66SAVZ4JxY8

>>14618628
TOO SPOOKY

>>14618628
isn't that picture from a cam though?

>>14618763

i meant the tadpole form.

>>14618915
if it only shows half the frame, is it worth chasing up? guess the audio could jumpstart the translatins

>>14618962
You actually never see the tadpole, if there even is one. Too many people simply have wrongly categorized Shin's first form, as seen in that first figure, in as a tadpole.

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>>14619022
According to film comments and japanese Wikipedia, ShinGoji's got 4 different stages, the first mentioned as a tadpole-like form although only the tail is seen. (Maybe somebody on the film identifies it as tadpole-looking, I don't know)

I wouldn't discard it as being a reused 2nd form render, that might explain the lack of merchandise/maquettes.

>>14619158
Well literally all you see is his tail, don't think they're gonna make a figure of that.

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TADAIMA!

>>14619158
Without having seen it, I'm not sure we can exclude the possibility of the tail belonging to the eel-like Godzilla.

>>14619255
That's fucking terrifying

>>14619255
If he kept his eyes close, he'd looked better and enhance the feel of the newborn state he's supposed to be in.

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>>14619277

>>14619288
He probably can't close his eyes, anon. He's got a membrane that covers it though when attacked.

>>14619255
this will never not be cute

>>14619255
it looks like it makes the most adorable quacking noise

>>14619313
it's really PenPen in a suit

>>14619255
I keep seeing this picture everywhere now, where is it from? Another tv spot?

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>>14619255
>>14619313
shin gojira concept art leaked

>>14618865
You know, compared to what I last saw in the Millennium series, Japans CG has improved a lot

>>14619339
>tfw can't stop hearing "TOH-TOH-TOH-TOH-TOH" from the 2nd form now.

>>14619339
Feraligatr looks kinda different

>>14619327
where's the whole set of these? i want

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>>14619453

The artist doesn't really have a set, he just makes them and posts them on his Twitter, anon. Look for G.N.A on Twitter.

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>>14619788
Learning to walk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hfmLWi2-M

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>>14619793

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>>14619798

I didn't need this today, anon. Dammit.

>>14619373
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hfmLWi2-M
some people who've seen it are saying it's a mixed bag... desu i think theyre too picky but who knows

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>>14619464

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>>14619929
Doing God's work anon

>>14619788
>I can make it on my own!

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>>14620098

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>Godzilla, stop fucking screaming. We're trying to sleep. God damn.

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>>14620240
>tfw not even elephants wanna be friends with you

>>14620098
THE HEART OF A CHAMPION

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>>14620261
>I'll be your friend.

>>14620269
Be happy nobody has drawn Goji mpreg yet

>tfw barubaroi chestburster never

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>>14620150
>>14619788
>>14618962

This was probably Godzilla's first form. He's basically Adam and almost spawned a new species (angels) before humanity froze him. Sequel set twenty years and featuring the Evangelions when?

>>14620269
>dude why is your head on my crotch
>just checkin to make sure you're not a jaw-breaking psycho robot

>>14619950
>>14619929
Who has the rest of the translated versions?

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>>14620468

They aren't. Only /m/ anons have been translating these.

>>14620496
Then post translator-sama's divine work.

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>>14620532
Only those two have been translated, anon. I'm sorry.

>>14620394

BUT ANGERUS AND GODZILLA ARE 'FRIENDS'

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I keep coming here, once a day, every day hoping that we have a rip of the movie. I don't hate you guys, but you need to get me that fucking movie so I can end this torture and stop this madness.

I just want to see it, even if its shitty 320p, unsubbed, undubbed, shaky cam footage. So that I may be at peace and wait for an official release.

GET ME THAT MOVIE RIGHT FUCKING NOW OR I SWEAR.

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>>14619255
Im sorry i had too

the low quality makes it funnier to me for some reason

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>>14620676

>>14620597
Made me chuckle

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>>14620736
>>14620737

Word out of Otakon is Funimation announced the theatrical release window for Shin Godzilla as Fall 2016. Considering they have the remaining two Rurouni Kenshin films are slated for September and October respectively, I'd say mid-November is the safest bet.

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>>14620468
>>14620532

I'm the anon who made this: >>14619929

Another anon originally translated this pic, but I made my own because I was bored and ended up posting it since I thought it looked a little more aesthetically pleasing than the previous translation...

I'd translate more of them if I could, but some of them are kinda indecipherable to me and my Japanese isn't fluent, so some of the dialogue becomes hard for me to translate. I'm mostly just doing them for fun, anyhow.

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>>14620764
Good stuff.
But I can't help but feel somewhat sorry for Zilla now

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>>14620764
>>14620849

We need to get together and translate all of these comics, friend. You are a godsend.

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>>14620733
Better than my uncreative one, heh.
But hey, at least my other macro is the OP pic. :)

Where's the camrip/leak, I know somebody has one due to this dude on youtube getting one and reviewing the movie off of it

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>>14621041

With kickass torrents gone, you'll have to hope you run into a good link.

>>14621099
>>14621041
There's always Piratebay

>>14621087
still out of context

>>14621230
If he doesn't want his bullshit to be taken out of context maybe he shouldn't limit his sekrit club to retards who purposely screencap out of context posts from him that they use to make ridiculous claims.

You guys should post the comics in Danburoo or something.

>>14621230
Still funny

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>>14621947
And still doesn't show the purple beam.

>>14622206
>Free (((Sonic))) wristband
What did they mean by this

>>14622212
It means there are no heroes anymore.

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>>14621041
I actually got in contact with that dude. He said he'd hook me up with a link, but never delivered.

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>>14622273
We've seen at least a snippet of every Godzilla scene now I think.

>>14621041
Didn't the Taiwan release happen a couple of days ago? What's the likelihood of getting anything from them? There's always the Philippines at the end of the month and China afterwards.

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>>14622206
>using the wrong brand of Raisin Bran

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Anno is a genius

>>14622273
So are we still pretending like this CGI looks amazing?

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>>14622688
KANEKO DID IT FIRST

>>14622762
Anno looks a lot like ShinGoji there. Tiny little stick arms and a thick body.

>>14622762
git outta here morning rescue, this isn't even your board let alone your thread

>>14622579
what is this meme

>>14622762
I need that picture of bat-zilla only

for research

>>14623316
/toy/ Kaiju general

is it true that this movie isn't good and liking it is an asian pride thing

>>14623486

On the contrary, western reviewers are giving it mixed reviews because they have no integrity.

>>14622762
Doctor Serizawa, I'm ANNO

>>14622762
>I chose the name because it sounded complicated

Shin Gojira is complicated? also wtf Anno

>>14623225
ShinGoji looks like one of the California Raisins from old Post Raisin Bran commercials, you millennial shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ1z2mYfrU8

>>14623544
Pretty sure it's a quote taken out of context. He's probably talking about Evangelion. The Japanese love to mash random shit together to make it sound either exotic or look aesthetically pleasing like a line of bricks.

>>14622273
>trains literally climbing godzilla

ok.

>>14622273
So is the blood coming out of Shin's "gills" ever explained?

>>14623731
Rapid mutation induced hemorrhaging

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>>14623507
Half the reviewers disliking the movie can't get over the design (NOT MUH ZILLA!!11), or are just too stupid to get anything more complex than '14 or bayformers in the first place.


We fucking lived long enough to see window lickers say a dinosaur movie is 2deep for them.

>>14618624
>heavy breathing
Is that a fat joke

>>14623591
what if im not american

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>>14623783

>>14623846
Jet Jaguar's really let himself go

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>>14623783

>>14623902
Just further evidence Anno is piloted by Ultraman.

>>14623783
That looks fun

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>>14623783
>That Anno

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>>14623906

>>14620764
kek

>>14623783
>>14623902
>>14623938
>doing an Ultraman victory pose
>at his Godzilla premier
So many layers.

>>14624040
It's not just a victory pose, it's Ultraman's famous lightning deflection pose. It's Anno deflecting the attacks of all naysayers.

>>14623783

I like how all the glasses folk in the front row are just trying their best not to lose their shit.

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>>14624055
DEEPEST

Sequel
March 22 2019
http://buzz-plus.com/article/2016/08/13/godzilla2/

>>14624097
Are you sure that isn't referring to the American Godzilla? The announced sequel to that franchise literally has the same exact release date you posted, after all.

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>>14624097
>Unfortunately, the sequel to minilla is seemingly does not appear, it may be a little disappointing for the minilla fan

>>14624124
>for the minilla fan
>the
kek

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>>14622273
>trailer got taken down
fuck, i liked the soundtrack.

What is the most pathetic kaiju not named maguma or gabara?

>>14624631
Does Big Man Japan count as a kaiju?

>>14624631
Gabara

>>14624446
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ovwfc_godzilla-resurgence-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%B3-%E3%82%B4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A9-philippines-trailer-colossal-spoilers_shortfilms

>>14624631
In the original Ultraman series, there was a Kaiju by the name of Ragon who was harmed by a six-year old throwing a fruit knife at his hand.

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>>14623783
Shimamoto is always a loser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Eq5y-Dyg5k

>>14624631
Giant Condor

>>14624107
It's talking about US Godzilla not Shin.

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Stage 1

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>>14625124

Stage 2

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>>14625127

Stage 3

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>>14625130

Stage 4

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>>14625132

Stage 5 (Fatter?)

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>>14624781

>>14625124
huh, so the implication here is, if those are boats, that shin goji is itself just a splinter off of a much larger entity hidden deep beneath the waves.
What do you guys think?

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return of godzilla blu ray rip when?

>>14625190
I'm on it, anon.

>>14625185
>There's something bigger down there

An even weirder shingoji?

>>14623507
Already read their reviews, it's full of autism and not ' muh Goji'...seriously.

>>14625216
well, yeah
if the implicating is that A, shin goji can reproduce asexually, and B, the thing that would become shin goji was just a fragment of a much larger being, then I'd say it's safe to assume we have yet to actually meet the true shin gojira, only a descendant of it

>>14625229
This is some cosmic horror shit. I love it.

>>14625229
Maybe that version isn't as fucked up looking and had a much more normal growth rate. As opposed to the one that grew so fast its body could barely keep up. (scars, blood spewing, etc)

>>14625251
Or that may simply be how the species do.
We're talking terrible beasts from beneath the sea that spread lazer-spewing monsters to the land. What constitutes as normal for it is already beyond what we understand. The best we can do is to guess at what it might be like by observing how Kaiju a-to-c matured and applying a logical endpoint to that. Maybe it actually has arms that aren't useless?

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>everybody is throwing fatzilla under the bus now

>>14625258
He'll be fiiine.

>>14625229
>Godzilla wasn't a tadpole, he was a severed head of Orochi.

>>14625258
Blame Gareth 'We don't need to see the eponymous monster because suspense' Edwards and his feature film Muto: Featuring Godzilla.

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Do you expect/want to see Beargoji's design change between films (ala Gamera)? Or would more resources be better spent on the other kaiju?

>>14625505
Doubt it since its not a suit
They might change it to fit the story or the director's demands, but I doubt it since we barely got to see beargoji in the first film :^)

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>>14625505
>mfw third movie has meltdown beargoji

>>14625251
From what I've heard the red stuff isn't blood, it's actually some kind of coolant because Shin Goji is apparently a biological nuclear reactor. The 'gills' were for pushing water through his coolant chambers so he doesn't melt down, but on land they rupture from lack of water.

At least that's what I heard.

>>14625605
G14 almost had a "Overheating" weakness.

>>14625124
Okay, so there's definitively a tadpole, just one we don't get to see out of water.

>>14625185
The film ends on a note predicting that other creatures akin to Shin may arise. However, I don't think Shin, himself, split off from anything else.

>>14625258
It's not like he's much worse than Heisei Godzilla, who could only fight in melee by repeatably bumping into his opponents.

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>>14624781
thanks anon.

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>>14625691

>>14625505
They'll make him a little slimmer, maybe give him more pronounced fins, one design element I'd like to see return would be the large sternum.
I'm curious if they'll give him a new power.

>>14625185

pretty sure it leaves a trail of black shit when it swims around. you're not seeing goji in that card, just the black shit.

>>14625208
>>14625190
Not worth it, its the same 08 transfer

Youd better off with SpaceHunterM color corrected 480p rip.

>>14626183
I don't know if his chest swelling up was from inhaling for his atomic breath, but I think a cool idea would be for Godzilla to channel his atomic power into a part of his body to acheive different effects.
Like charging his arm gives him a shining finger attack. Or charging his tail makes it extend and then he injects power into them like a pile bunker. Or as an off shoot of Shin's beamspam, he can let out a localized burst of energy from his fins to repel monsters off his back.

So basically concentrated versions of Nuclear Pulse.

>>14626028
Takeshi Obata's version looks too much like Junji Ito's

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>>14626555
Well that's disappointing

>>14626028
Find me Hiromu Arakawa's version and I'll get back to you

>>14625821
>yfw he concentrates his meltdown and radioactivity into one massive blast from his chest a la Gamera's ultimate plasma attack

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>>14626728
>>14626906
With gareth leaving as director I really hope whoever takes the reigns next decides to not be so grounded in reality and have Godzilla do some crazy shit. Not dropkick crazy but something that'll make it stand out like Shin Godzilla has.

>>14626953
Do you think we'll ever hear Desplat do Ifukube's scores?

Apparently Shin Godzilla has sold 2,308,427 ticket as of Sunday

>>14627332
Nice, but more importantly, cam rip when?

>>14627376

Tomorrow.

>>14627332

how much is a ticket in nipland?

>>14627473
Y1600 to Y1800.

>>14627490
Yikes. And I thought movie tickets were expensive here in the U.S.

>>14627500
$20 where I'm from in NYC usually

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Positive Review:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/08/16/godzilla-resurgence-review-surprisingly-good-and-very-much-classic-gainax/#27e8fbe56bf1

Anno is on another level.From the previews it seems that even the sound effects (tanks firing, explosions) are directly lifted from the Showa films.

>>14627725
Soon he'll create a film with the sounds from Nadia, the visuals of His and Her Circumstances and the plot of Evangelion 4.0

>>14627725
wow
that's actually pretty cool
sasuga, Anno

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A couple more photos of those early form statutes have come out

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>>14627850

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>>14627855

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>>14627866

>>14627850
This looks pretty fucking cute

>>14627855
>I can make it on my own!

>>14619158
I hope concept art or a complete design of the first stage is shown at some point, the scariest things are the ones you can't see.

>>14627875
The heart of a champion!

>>14625505
I could see them changing it some since a big part of the film relied around Godzilla being able to move in water in a believable fashion.

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>>14627879
My guess is just a more Godzilla-y version of this.

>>14627473
Anywhere from 1000 to 2000 yen. My Movix ticket was 1100 yen with univ. student discount

>>14627004
The better question is: will Toho's famous super-autism allow them to do it?

>>14627971
Well they let Koichi Sugiyama do some of Ifukube's pieces for Vs Biolante

>>14628017
How does that movie has such an awful ost after Return? It breaks my heart.

>>14627879
>>14627940
This guy was sent a picture that should be the first form

he didn't link it separately and I can't find it elsewhere

https://youtu.be/xRW0j8Up1_Q?t=1m13s

Later in the video he also shows a fuller version of >>14618628

https://youtu.be/xRW0j8Up1_Q?t=4m46s

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>>14628029
Never give up, Never surrender!

>>14628056
>he didn't link it separately and I can't find it elsewhere
Seems legit, did you know my dad works at Nintendo?
>>14628066
That fucking superman sounding music grates my nerves every time

>>14628073
>Seems legit, did you know my dad works at Nintendo?
I mean its a fully sculpted maquette its not like he could just fake it. I just said that because otherwise I'd have posted the photos instead of linking to his faggy video

>>14628029
The guy who did the conducting decided to put his own spin on the music without knowing what the movie was going to be like, hence the result.

>>14627473
>>14627490
1500 to 1800 is for regular movies in shit theaters mind you. It rockets up to 2500-3500 for 3D and IMAX and whatnot.

>>14628090
Sorry I cba to watch it and if it's in the vid, you can link it at a specified time or scrot while full screen. For my snark I apologize.
>>14628098
I didn't know that but wouldn't an orchestral score be the safer bet? It's my favorite Heisei era movie, since Return is technically Showa, I just don't care for the score. It seriously dates the movie

>>14628244
>you can link it at a specified time
I did,

1:31

4:46

>>14627850
>I've seen some shit.

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>>14628249
>>14628056
This is the form we don't see

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>>14628275
And this is>>14618628

>>14623783
Hey it's that Yakuza guy

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>>14628284
I've been out of the loop. What in God's name am I fucking looking at?

>>14628312

>>14618624
>Movie summary: http://pastebin.com/pW30aaHq

>>14628275
Baby is cute, CUTE

>>14628275
Childhood obesity jokes in 3...2...

>>14628376
What a fat fuck

>>14628275
Even Ebirah is making fun of him

>>14628275
That is straight up Frogzilla. And I'm a little disappointed if we don't actually see it in the movie. Like why go through the trouble of designing it if you're not going to show it?

>>14628518
>Like why go through the trouble of designing it if you're not going to show it?

Godzilla 2014.

>>14628595
Good meme.

>>14628610

Thanks famalam.

>>14625504
not showing godzilla isn't the problem
Sidelining him for Muto in a movie strictly called godzilla is

He was pre-established within the universe of his film, and the big reveal was for the Muto

The movie should have been called Muto

>>14627855
fucking cute
>>14627869
noT CUTE ABORT ABORT

>>14627869
>HAY GUISE!

>WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAFSGSGFGSGFAAAARRGH!

>>14625504
Constantly having godzilla on screen < < < building up to satisfying moments.

>>14628827
yet somehow shin gojira appears to be coming out on top as the superior film so far.
That said, other factors are important, and the human element in this film seems to be much more interesting than "generic war guy learns the art of constant shock from that one jap"

>>14628312

anno couldn't just drop you off at the station, so to finish his wild ride he decided to divert the train off the tracks into a gulch.

>>14628907
>divert the train off the tracks and up Godzilla

>>14626953
Will we ever get anything as glorious as the Jet Jaguar/Godzilla flying kick tag team attack?

>>14628827
there was nothing satisfying in gareth's muto film

we didn't even get to see the US army unleash hell on beargoji

I wanted to see jets attacking, tanks, battleships, all we got to see were a few tanks and infantry...

>>14629110
Oh they where unloading on him, he just didn't give a shit

>>14627419
It's tomorrow, where is it senpai?

>>14629150
nope
right now it's today
it's not tomorrow yet

>>14629155
Aww man, why cant asian people use cameras anon?

>>14629145
it was a 1 min sequence and not much hardware was involved

Remember when everyone said that this movie would be a bomb and Anno was just a no talent hack?

>>14627666
https://twitter.com/HccvJPE8Dk/status/765775947547156480
>Ollie Barder's Shin Godzilla review came off as slightly shallow but it doesn't get anything horrendously wrong like most of the English reviews I've seen so far (and the shallow bit could be attributed to not wanting to spoil the film like some pre-opening Japanese ones)

>that one autist who spends all day shitting on Godzilla 2014

Feels good not being an easily triggered fanboy who can actually enjoy new things.

>>14629317
What are you even responding to? And just because you can enjoy things doesn't mean that they're good.

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Unadjusted for inflation, Shin Godzilla is currently the most successful Godzilla film to date in the Japanese market. This includes both American films, which it actually beats even adjusted for inflation. Depending on whose projection you're looking at, it's expected to well surpass Anno's second largest grossing film: You Can (Not) Advance ($40 million).

>>14629404
After inflation adjustments, how much did vs Kong make back in the 60's?

>>14629219
Don't bother, you're better off debating /krg/ and transformers filth.

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>>14629331
>And just because you can enjoy things doesn't mean that they're good.

If you want to get technical there are no good Godzilla films. At least not from Japan. As a general rule of thumb they're all badly written, cheaply made, low quality B movies trumped up as important by their more delusional fans. The Japanese simply lack the same level of craftsmanship in film making that Hollywood possesses. Hell even China does better to some degree. Hollywood's worst is often better than Japan's best in terms of objective factors of quality.

Take the two American films. Compared to their Japanese counterparts you can see the level of effort that's gone into these films. The writers actually tried to write a compelling narrative, free of cheap melodrama that plagues Japanese films as a whole. They had the goal of making the monsters look like real, living things. Not cheap rubber suits used in some asinine adherence to an outdated effects style. Even the scores are higher quality, using actual music instead of juvenile military marches.

The '98 movie received a lot of hate from Godzilla fans, and the 2014 film less so but still some. The irony is that they're the two best in the series when all factors are accounted for. Only nostalgia goggles and fanboy autism make people see otherwise. How many people who liked '98 and 2014 that aren't Godzilla fans otherwise would actually watch a Japanese Godzilla film? Few, if any. Even critics who praise Japanese Godzilla films do so for what they are: chintzy but somewhat fun B movies.

>>14629560
Plenty of people hated the 98 film outside Godzilla fans. It's impossible to take seriously when half your cast is Simpsons voice actors and your movies is more focused on ripping off Jurassic Park then being a kaiju film.

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>>14629560
If you think anyone is stupid enough to read that blog post dripping with tisim, you're more retarded than /kgr/. Hell you probably are from /kgr/, and you should be ashamed of yourself for wasting minutes of your life typing that dregg up just to white knight edward's embarrassment of a movie.

>>14629560
>8b1.png
>b81.png
>bait-1.png

>>14629588
The Edwards movie is a fine Godzilla movie even with the cardboard cutout they made the lead, but white-knighting Devlin and Emmerich is unforgivable. People with open and vocal contempt for the source material should not be allowed to direct remakes or reboots.

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>>14629612
>The Edwards movie is a fine Godzilla movie

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>>14629588
No, I'll take the bait.

>>14629560
By that logic I guess this means remakes and more recent films are generally better than what came before them because of the more advanced equipment and larger budgets modern filmmakers have at their disposal? Phantom Menace is superior to A New Hope, Steve Martin's Pink Panther is greater than Peter Seller's Pink Panther, Ghostbusters (2016) an improvement over Ghostbusters (1984), Peter Jackson's King Kong completely outclasses King Kong (1933) and so on and so forth? The more expensive and newer the project, the higher its quality is, right? Your contempt for foreign films and anything not made with American CGI needs to chill.

>>14629588
>/kgr/

Not sure what that is, but you sound like when someone accuses another of being from /pol/ just because they don't see eye to eye politically.

>Hell you probably are from /kgr/, and you should be ashamed of yourself for wasting minutes of your life typing that dregg up just to white knight edward's embarrassment of a movie.

Do you have an actual, worthwhile response to what I said? Or are you just going to keep going on the attack and sperg out?

Just to chime in, you can hate 14' as much as you want but you have to admit that kiss of death was beautiful

>>14629621
I said fine, not great. Again, Johnson is a boring protagonist and the pacing could have been quicker, but it's a solid kaiju film. Keeping Godzilla mostly out of sight was a bad move, but you can see that Gareth Edwards actually gave a shit about the material.

Devlin and Emmerich didn't even want the Godzilla job, they wanted to make a "Giant Meteor crashes into Earth" movie that ended up getting canned thanks to the other two that came out that year.

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>>14629632
>Whimpering use of le /pol/ boogeyman fallacy
If you're reaching that far for a rebuttal, your argument has no ground to stand on in he first place.

>Do you have an actual, worthwhile response to what I said?
Considering it was stale bait and I already said I wasn't going to read that, see >>14629624 for a more critical response. Instead I'll continue to insult you and laugh as you scramble to defend yourself with another mumbling response.

>>14629647
So it's good simply because it didn't treat the material like a joke? Not because it uses Godzilla wisely, has interesting characters, has an appropriate or good score, or has a coherent or engaging narrative? It's fine because it isn't Godzilla '98. Do you not see the problem with that? Sure, a few scenes might be neat. But you have to slog through over an hour of filler to get to it.

>>14629624
>By that logic I guess this means remakes and more recent films are generally better than what came before them because of the more advanced equipment and larger budgets modern filmmakers have at their disposal? Phantom Menace is superior to A New Hope, Steve Martin's Pink Panther is greater than Peter Seller's Pink Panther, Ghostbusters (2016) an improvement over Ghostbusters (1984), Peter Jackson's King Kong completely outclasses King Kong (1933) and so on and so forth? The more expensive and newer the project, the higher its quality is, right?

All of those films you list which got remakes were perfectly fine films of high quality and entertainment value already before they were chosen for remakes, and the remakes were garbage especially in comparison.

What is the original Godzilla as a film? Yeah everyone knows about the monster, but the plot is mostly a shallow Japanese romantic melodrama. The movie spends most of it's run time focused on two disposable characters and their love story and one scientist who bitches about not killing the monster. A dramatic element which amounts to nothing on his part. The only worthwhile character, Serizawa, is barely in the film, and doesn't become plot relevant until it's last act. The cinematography even for it's era is amateur. The writing is abysmal, shallow, and boring. The titular monster is barely relevant to the plot, and all the so called "symbolism" that makes him some important stable of film is just gratuitous destruction dolled up as allegory by fans. Godzilla's relevance to nuclear weapons is equally relevant to the monster of the week from a Bert I. Gordon film.

Comparatively, while the '98 remake was bad and the 2014 film was at best mediocre in terms of Hollywood films they're both improvements by several orders of magnitude over the Japanese films.

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>>14629658
>>14629588

>>14629668
Coherent, yes, engaging, haha, no. The movie's human element was completely fucked soon after Cranston's character died. It had a lot of wasted potential. I still found it enjoyable and it gave me hope for its sequels.

>>14629668
None of the characters in Godzilla 98 were interesting. The closest thing we got to that was Jean Reno as "French spy that's in the movie because Emmerich decided to shift the blame for Godzilla's creation away from American nukes"

98 Godzilla's treated as a cowardly animal that likes tuna, the score keeps veering off into knocking off the Brachiosaur scene in Jurassic Park, and again you got stupid subplots like the French guys they added to keep American nukes blameless and the "Spunky girl reporter tries to impress her boss Kent Brockman" crap.

>>14629673
I really enjoyed the bits on Odo island and how Yamane adopted the kid whose family got killed. Then there's the people on the train whose lives you get a brief glimpse at before they are killed later on. It's the subtle touches that lift the movie up, I like how it doesn't hold your hand and spell everything out for the viewer.

>hey there is still a godzilla thread
>I told you guys it's a bad idea to have a general because autism
>come in here looking for new photos

>all this autism

I told you so

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>>14629685
And you're so bootyblasted at the end you can't even type up a response. Stay salty junior.

>>14629708
It's still a fairly good signal to noise ratio for 4chan, metadiscussion aside.

>>14629169
They're incompetent.

>>14629714
I suppose. Containment is a necessary evil

>>14629708
It's clearly a /tv/ tourist that's come in our midst here.

WTF I hate both American Godzilla now

>>14629673

I find your criticisms interesting because they apply to Godzilla '14 much better than they do Gojira (1954). Yamane, Emiko, and Ogata, and Seriwaza are a strong cast of characters. The two best characters are either killed (Father Brody) or used as an occasional exposition machine (Serizawa). Everyone else is sidelined by the second act for one of the dullest human characters in cinema (not limited to this franchise).

Godzilla is almost completely irrelevant in Edwards' film. You could remove him and almost nothing changes until the final act and arguably the nuke would have handled the MUTO. So yeah, irrelevant. In Gojira, the titular character actually drives the plot.

Shallow and boring are perfect descriptions for nearly everything concerning Godzilla '14 except for Bryan Cranston and its cinematography.

Your issues with Gojira sounds more like an older foreign film just doesn't suit your personal tastes. The atmosphere, score, cinematography, and acting in Gojira is great and widely recognized. One is a masterpiece and the other a pretty, yet empty and forgettable waste of time.

How has your taste in the films changed throughout the years?

Started out with King of the Monsters when I was really young, it's always stayed a favorite til I saw the original version. I mostly watched the showa era flicks when I was younger because the only Heisei ones available were Returns and Biollante. When I was a few years older, I thought Heisei was kickass and way better, since I thought the showa era suits looked goofy and childish. When I first saw the millenium era flicks I was... disappointed, but not in a way that killed my enthusiasm for the franchise. When I started to really get back into it a few years ago, I realized how amazing early Showa is and I came around on later Showa too. Now the only Heisei flicks I really like are Returns and Biollante. I still don't care for the Millennium era movies.

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>>14629754
>Now the only Heisei flicks I really like are Returns and Biollante
That's actually pretty common; the 90's movies were just not good at all. Destroyah isn't bad though, it's just that it expects you to have watched all the previous movies.

Guys, can't we all just get along and collectively RIP THE INTERNET TO PIECES UNTIL WE FIND A WATCHABLE COPY OF SHIN GOJIRA oh god I'm dying someone please just find it icanttakeitanymore

>>14629754
Yeah. My favorites are Honda's early entries (G54, MvG, Ghidrah, MZ), Hedorah, Biollante, and GMK. The majority of Heisei and Millennium films do little for me.

As far as Heisei Goji movies go, I adore G vs. King Ghidorah, mostly because of how ABSURD it is. It's a great drinking movie.

"Take that, you dinosaur!"

>>14629792
"This Godzilla is unfriendly and is going to destroy your country!"

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>>14629458
It's probably best to judge by admissions.

>>14629821
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-16/shin-godzilla-earns-3.3-billion-yen-to-surpass-2014-godzilla-japanese-box-office-total/.105424
Going by ann since I can't fucking figure out how to find direct sources for tickets sold, it's at 18 right now and will probably soon be at 15. Weren't some anons saying it's on track to crack the top ten?

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>>14629844
If its legs hold, it should finish around Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla II or better. So it could crack top ten. But at the moment it's probably only just passing GMK.

>>14629792
Honestly, I don't know what's more cringeworthy: M11's jog or the Japanese masturbation fantasy about buying entire continents, one by one.

>>14629907
M11, the six thousand dollar man, is the best part of the movie.

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>>14629907
Wasn't Vs King Ghidorah produced during the Japanese economy boom? Similar sentiment can be found in Blade Runner, although to a much lesser degree.

>>14629925
M11: The Terminator

>>14629930
more like M11: The Almost-Finisher

>>14629754
>How has your taste in the films changed throughout the years?
I used to love most of the 1998 movie as a kid and thought that all the other films were just shitty rubber monster trash flicks that no one liked because I was a clueless shit.


>>14629930
>Wasn't Vs King Ghidorah produced during the Japanese economy boom?
It was produced around the time the bubble burst. That's why it focuses so much on the evils of unscrupulous and aggressive economic advancements, and why the destruction scenes revel in the monsters tearing down billboards and huge buildings. It was meant to show that even though Japan's economy looks strong on the outside and can even threaten foreign nations, it could easily fall apart.

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HEY ANGILA

>>14629792

KG and Spacegodzilla are really great for watching in groups.

>>14629754

When I was a kid, I loved all the Heisei movies to death.

Nowadays, I have to agree with the consensus that RoG and Biollante are the only watchable-to-good entries in the whole series.

>>14629658

To be fair, the /pol/ boogeyman exists for a reason. Pretty much everyone is sick of /pol/fags bringing their part-tsundere, part-yandere obsession with Tumblr into everything.

>>14630172
/pol/ is kind of like the new /b/ (vs /v/), full of newfags who have yet to learn proper chan etiquette or rein in their autism.

>>14630195

It is also the new /b/ in that it too is a failure of containment.


How do we contain /pol/, gentl/m/en and wo/m/en? I suggest napalm and garlic.

>>14630164
Personally, I think vs. Destoroyah belongs in that group too.

>>14630210

Eeeehhh, i disagree. Although to be fair the godawful R1 transfer didn't help last time I watched it.

>>14630202
Ignore it, report cross board invasions and trolling and carry on like normal.

>>14630121
>People actually want to argue Showa Godzilla is "good"

Good like Showa Ultraman and Rider huh

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>>14630257
You people never stop. Everything doesn't have to be overly serious or grim dark to be good. And I don't think I've seen anyone ever seriously argue that every Godzilla flick in the Showa Era is good. I'd readily offer Megalon and Revenge in response. But the best entries of the Showa Era are definitely better than anything from the Heisei and Millennium packs.

>>14630257
Yeah, I sure enjoy the timeless classics like Godzilla vs Mothra, Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla and Final Wars.

>>14629754

Showa and earlier Heisei, for all their flaws, at least had their own distinct personality.

Later heisei just felt like bland design-by-committee shit (I partly blame Okawara desu), and Millennium just sort of continued that trend until Final Wars, which love it or hate it, had its own personality and flavor.

>>14630297
What the fuck went wrong with Millennium era anyway, that shit felt especially cheap and poorly acted.

>>14630281

Final Wars was a cheesy clusterfuck on purpose, and on that end, it succeeded perfectly well.

Also if you start shitting on Gordon we're going to have to step outside.

>>14630279
GMK is superior to every Showa after the original.

>>14630305

It was design-by-committee bullshit. But again, honestly I feel like that started when Okawara took over the director's chair. Omori wasn't exactly Honda, but he knew how to make a movie at least interesting. Biollante had atmosphere galore and KG was a gloriously stupid showa throwback. His stuff almost felt like live-action anime. Okawara on the other hand was just

>There is an actor talking/thing happening

>put it in frame

>TAKAO OLD BOY YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN

I thought Godzilla 2000 was pretty good

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Can we talk about this man's crippling addiction to sparks?

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>>14630297
It saddens me never got was suggested by Godzilla vs. Biollante. While a little rough, it was ambitious and had its own identity. Plus the visual effects were a step up from anything the franchise had seen before. If Toho had continued in that direction, we might have really gotten something special. Instead they fell back on lazy semi-retreads or half-baked concepts. Shame.

Kaneko's Gamera Trilogy was astounding though. It visibly improved with each entry and outdid its competition in just about every category, with less money. Toho undermined his efforts with GMK.

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>>14627850
>>14627866
Heisei Era did give us a better Baby Godzilla. And Anno's design resembles it.

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>>14630257
I'll take a wild guess and say your favorite hedgehog is shadow, and that you think zero is the best megaman character.

>>14630462
Why does disliking bad fiction mean you must actually love bad fiction?
Like do you enjoy the Fred Wolf TMNT more than 2003 and Adam West Batman more than Dark Knight?

>>14630490
Fix your analogy and then proper discussion can commence.

>>14630407
I want to give Godzilla Jr. a hug

>>14630490
>enjoy [...] Adam West Batman more than Dark Knight
Different anon here, I do, but I suspect we're looking at this from entirely different angles.

>>14630462

Did it ever just occur to you that Showa toku in general is fucking boring and generic? I can't tell the difference bwtween one Showa Rider and another because they're all the same cliche shit after another.

>>14630496
It works though. I bet you just love shit that's old based solely on age.

>>14630505
I suspect you want to watch so bad it's good stuff (it's just bad) whereas I want to watch something with actual merit. You aren't high-brow for ironic enjoyment buddy.

>Showafag's dipping into Batman now
kek

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>>14630509
It really doesn't. And you disliking it is based solely on age, right? Whatever creative, energetic spark Honda and friends had for most of the early Godzilla films just isn't there for a lot of the recent entries. Sure, they take themselves more seriously, though they're quite lazy in execution. Pure technical competence. There's more to cinema than that. And the early Showa entries had that too.

>>14630526
Showa Kamen Rider is honestly much cheaper and poorly made than Adam West Batman.

>>14630257
>Good like Showa Ultraman and Rider huh
I will fucking fight you.

>>14630509
>I can't tell the difference bwtween one Showa Rider and another
Maybe don't be an autistic with the attention span and memory retention of a fly?

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>That Heisei Gamera cocksucker bitching about Showa Riders again

Put on a trip already so I can block you you fucking scumbag. Nobody gives a shit about your giant turtle compared to Riders, get it thru your skull already.

>>14630542
He can't recognize anything that isn't a giant turtle that gives him an erection.

>>14630534
Godzilla doing a meme dance is what you consider a creative spark? Could you be any more pretentious.

>>14630560

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Nothing wrong with some light-heartedness here and there.

>>14630407
I want to feed him McDonald's

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>>14630490
>>14630509
>>14630526
>>14630535
I wonder who these utterly separate anons could be...

>>14630550
He had one a while ago, hence why we call every retard in the thread Billy.

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>>14630407
>>14630504
>>14630570
Remember when Jr got his first job?

>>14630575

I think it's hilarious this guy has to force Heisei Gamera down our throats based solely on effects then calls Ultraman and Ultraseven badly written and Kamen Rider boring disregarding their own effects work for the time.

>>14630509
>Showa Toku
>there's flying turtles, dinosaurs doing kung fu, a boy riding a brontosaurus into fucking battle while a bunch of aliens and army men fight in the foreground, giant aliens wrestling monsters, dinosaurs planning global domination
>BORING

>>14630596

Stop responding to yourself Gamercuck

From now on that's your name

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>>14630589
>For the time
That's exactly the problem--the fucker has no concept of time nor of anything becoming more complex as they years go on. To him, Showa movies were mad just yesterday and therefor deserve to be judged under the same circumstances as the Gamera trilogy. Hell, he's even tried to tell people that bayformers are better because of the higher budget for cgi.

On top of this, he's got the brain of an embittered 13yo who was picked on a lot at school. "There are no true heroes" gets posted at least twice a thread now.

>>14630509
>BORING
>there's a dude turning into a robot to fight monsters made by a green faced eco-terrorist.
>there's a monster with vagina eyes kicking Godzilla's ass
>there's a dude on a motorcycle kicking luchadore's asses
>there's a monster who befriends children and eats ramen

How is this boring, you cuck.

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>>14630603
Yeah you'd be right if it wasn't me. I love showa stuff. The pure insanity of it all. There's a fucking glove monster in Ultraman 80. There's a drunk monster in Ultraman Taro.
THERE'S GIANT KAIJU TOILETS.

>>14630609
Hey man, kaiju have to do their business somewhere

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Fuck you here's my eraser collection

>>14630618
Ultraman?

>>14630625
Yep. There's Godzilla erasers out there. Even ones of Kamacuras and Kumonga and Manda. But since they're showa, they completely suck.

>>14630604
>>14630589

I told you generals were a bad idea.
This guy literally derailed one of the earliest threads whining about Ebert and "ironic enjoyment" while shitting on all toku that isn't Gamera trilogy. When he said he skipped all the human parts of Monster Zero shouldve been a clue. Stop making these threads.

>>14630660
Ah, so that was the guy dicksucking eber't kike corpse. Still, the generals will never stop, much less for one lonely little tard.
If anything just report all his posts and let the global janitors sweep him into the trash bin.

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>>14630660
>Stop making these threads.
>An autist is shitposting, better stop talking about this subject and give him what he wants

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>>14630121
>>14630257

Any Showa Godzilla movie after 1964 is silly. It's just for fun.

>>14630660
Eh, with Shin G just out and looming on our horizon like the titular monster, there's enough to discuss

In, say six months? Maybe a general won't be remotely needed

But a Godzilla thread's okay for now. Yeah I dunno how I feel about that pastebin in the OP of text copy-pasted from an old thread

>>14630681
He uses these threads as his blog. He wants them to continue

>>14630660
What are his trademarks? Only liking Gamera and hating everything else?

>>14630534
At first, I legitimately thought that model/actress (I dunno, arr rook arike) was laying her head on a package of diapers.

>>14630737
Rants about Ebert and "ironic enjoyment" of toku
Dislikes showa
Fucking constantly wanks over Heisei Gamera at the detriment of every other toku ever made
Showa Rider is boring and Ultraman has bad effects and writing (including the old ones)
Opinions as facts, everyone else is stupider and more tasteless than him

Even without a trip you can tell him right away

>>14630756
Ai Maeda. For the purposes of this thread, she is known for Gamera III (Ayana) and a cameo in GMK (the Mothra priestesses reference scene). Kind of had a slight crush on her when I was younger.

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Man, the Showa series had such bland and terrible kaiju, right?

>>14619464

Are the other godzillas reading from a phrasebook to talk to 2014 Godzilla?

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>>14630950
Here anon

>>14619929

So how long until the frothing backlash against the movie over small flaws that don't matter in comparison to the overall bigger picture?

Because I'm pretty sure that Anno has become the /m/ equivalent of Nolan

>>14628275
Whats that thing on his tail?

>>14630565
Also nothing wrong with grit. Some films will have it, others won't. Get over it.