Whats the best GM and why is it right here?

That's not [G]round Jim.

But Jim Kai is still a top tier Jim.

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>>14575463
That is not the best GM.

>>14575473
>Ground anything
>Best

Maybe if nobody ever fought in space

>>14575463
I want that color on the powered GM so bad.

>>14575483
Space belongs to the spacenoids, remove Zeon from the earth first.

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>>14575463
Close, but incorrect

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Asking here since the question doesn't deserve its own thread: are there any other melee focused GM variants outside of the Striker family? Something to compete with Zeon's Goufs and the Efreet's ninja shit and whatnot.

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>>14575548
All of them.

You don't need a fucking double beam scythe/spear to beat a Gouf. They're actually pretty beatable with a vanilla RGM-79.

Efreet, too.

The whole reason most Zeon suits tend to stomp the opposition is because their pilots have been doing this since the beginning of the war, and many before that. Even the most talented GM pilot has only been doing it since, at best, October.

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>>14575463
>>14575473
>>14575475
>>14575548
>>14575711
All wrong. Just imagine pic related in the White Dingos colors.

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>>14575711
>missing the point this hard
Gimmicks, nigga, I want gimmicks for variety and melee ninja shit focus is one of them. Gouf using their heat rods/wires are meant for that, the Efreet and their variants are meant for that. The Striker does that, it's meant to be better at melee and has the stuff for it, most GMs are just all-rounders which look cool but don't do anything different in particular and the most famous variants are long range sniper ones which makes perfect sense.

So again, are there any GMs meant to be specialized in melee other than the Striker and its spawn?

>>14575773
Just told you, there really aren't any variants meant specifically for close combat outside the GM Striker; which is barely itself a step up from a vanilla GM II. And I guess the Aqua GM if you count those harpoons and claw things.

>>14575773
Most GMs are meant for standard mid-range combat, majority of variants also play into sniping, long range combat and general stuff like that. Its another thematic of the Federation being about guns while Zeon prefers its Not-Yamato Damashii samurai strong close combat bullshit.

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>>14575796
Cool, thanks brosephs. Was curious since I couldn't really think of any others. Also pic related, sexiest GM variant.

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>>14575463

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>>14575463
I'M BACK IN BLACK BABY

>>14575518
Go color some lineart, then? It's not hard.

>>14575767
Sniper II is also top tier, but it's still no [G]M.

Like, the triumvirate of top tier Jim taste is [G]round, Kai and Sniper II.

>>14576293
>Not liking the Sniper III

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>>14575518
Like this?

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>>14576338
Glad the Powered came up because it's my personal favorite GM, not to mention one of my overall favorite suits. I've always really liked the look of it.

>>14576361
You do know it's a GMc with a Jetpack though right?

>>14576293
>[G]
Ew. Top Jims are Powered, Kai, Custom, and Quel.

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>>14575463

So, everyone agrees that 0083 GMs are the best, right?

>>14576385
I'm more of a Command guy myself.

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>>14576376
Stop.

GM Sniper II >= GM Custom > GM Sniper I/Custom > anything else.

>>14575475
that thing looks like hot shit

>>14576195
This

GUYS STOP IGNORING THE GM II

HE DOES STUFF

>>14576433
The GM II is just a coat of paint for the GM classic.

Not like the GM III, now THERE is a suit thats been doin its squatz n oatz!

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>>14576433
YEAH
HE BLOWS UP

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>>14576364
Yeah, but it's still a great looking machine. I really like the bulkier legs and the way the backpack overhang on the front of the body makes a sort of high neckline. The orange-on-white is also a really classy looking color scheme in my opinion.

>>14576440
The whole base assault was pretty terrible.
Even when the Federation turns it around its only because one 'hero' unit appeared and basically destroyed the entire Zeon force by himself.

>>14576454
>The whole base assault was pretty terrible.
it was so fucking biased
zeeks start attacking and most of the GMs just stand there like dumbfucks while equally older zeon suits are moving all around the place, almost dancing
then that Byarlant guy appears and wipes off all the zekes by himself
anyone has that webm?

>>14576461
Way worse was when Angelo destroys the entire force of the 'General Revil's high-end protective mobile suits by himself, it was literally like Seed Destiny all over again with the grunts just floating there motionless as the named character beamspams them all to death

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>>14575767

Superior Ver.

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>>14576454
Uh. You guys are forgetting about the Jesta trio murdering shit and the Guncannons doing stuff too.

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>>14576493
Disgusting.

>>14576454
>>14576486
Yet people will still say Unicorn isn't Zeonwank.

>>14576454
>old as fuck oyw suits somehow standing up to modern suits
Don't make no sense.

>>14576530
uhhh, you DO realize those sleeves suits are also old as fuck, if not even older than the suits in the Torrington base?
it was literally a "break the museum" battle, had the unicorn or the delta plus arrived earlier and did their shit, the ancient zekes would have never stood a chance since the beginning

>>14576433
It's a unit entirely designed to be just a minimal bump to the original that does absolutely nothing special, looks entirely alike and exists so it can be phased out for more unique MS either visually or performance-wise. I almost feel sorry for it.

>>14576535
>uhhh, you DO realize those sleeves suits are also old as fuck, if not even older than the suits in the Torrington base?

That's the point I was making.
The old as fuck zeek suits should have been destroyed.

>>14576535
my bad. I meant Dakar

>>14576540
ehh those GMs were only slightly newer, but no by much
reason why the moment the Byarlant came out it was so one sided

>>14576494

Guncannons shot down Dodais and Base Jabbers, they didn't do anything meaningful at all.

>>14576535
You're confusing the Sleeves with the Zeon remnants on the Earth. Sleeves have mainly suits from the the first and second Neo Zeon factions which are more up to date stuff vs the Zeonic remnants on the Earth mainly fielding retrofitted and ad hoc scrapped together OYW leftovers.

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>>14576551
Majority of the Zeonic forces destroyed at Dakar and Torrington Base were killed by GM IIIs, Nemos, Jestas, the Kobe Byrant, and Guncannons.

>>14576565
Its sorta funny you named that Zeonic Remnants Losing when more Federation units than Zeon are seen getting destroyed in it

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>>14576574
Because Unicorn is Zeek wank but regardless the near entirety of Zeon forces and remnants that attacked Torrington were wiped out, anon. Federation was throwing in more troops and mobile suits and the Zeeks were losing.

>>14576555
The remnants had some MS from the Neo-Zeon movements too. They had the Capule, Galluss K, Marasai, Zaku Mariner, and the Zee Zulus.

>>14576582
Zee Zulus were Sleeve units inserted to help the Zeonic remnants, anon. Just like how Marida might be Grannycerieies or whatever the fuck its spelled but that's still an extension of the Sleeves as well.

>>14576565
...the animation is really bad.

>>14576582
The Efreet Schenied was piloted by an ex-Feddie.

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>>14576616
Zeonwank so strong it can deflect multiple beam sabers

Truly Zeon are the master race

>>14576623
You mean become incorporeal at will thanks to MUH ZEON.

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>>14576616
That's just shitty animation anon, it's an integral part of the Gundam experience.

>I-It's just shitty animation not Zeonwank!

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>>14576461
>zeeks start attacking and most of the GMs just stand there like dumbfucks
to be fair, that's simply good base defense tactics in the case of a surprise attack you aren't prepared for. The whole point is to not let them get close to the base while the counterattacking force is trying to mobilize.

Moving around trying to engage them when A. You aren't their objective, B. they are faster than you, and C. Their friends are happy to be taking potshots at your ass either way, is just going to compromise the entire base and get you killed in the process anyway. Better to form a perimeter and try to hold the line until your forces can regroup (which is exactly what happens, in spite of Kirks's efforts to stop it.)

The Nemos and Guncannons weren't just sitting still because they were incompetent; they were trying to keep the base secure for as long as possible (with what little combat resources they had) against overwhelming odds while their allies got their shit together. It was a sacrifice, not incompetence.

These men are heroes, not mooks. They were the first to the battlefield against a foe with numbers, blitzkrieg tactics and the speed to match, heavy firepower, and no sense of self-preservation, and they didn't budge; they held the fucking line to the last breath. If any of them had tried to play hero, they'd have died sooner and more lives would have been lost.

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>>14576640
You guys are being retarded. You're mistaking perspective with bad animation. The Efreet moves inside of the GM Striker's lance, you see it pass by the contrails of its beam and assume it was contacting them when it never did.

>>14576655
*GM Striker's lance swing

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>>14576654
Shhhhhh, shhhh

we're memeing ;^)

>>14576654
They stood there pointlessly with a faulty breached perimeter and ended up getting stabbed in the back by melee units.

Course it doesn't hurt that it is easier to animate things that don't move

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>>14576668
You are severely underestimating the length of a spear, the Efreet was literally a few feet away from it before he tried dodging it's swing.

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>>14576654

The Zeek attack of Torrington meant nothing anyways, it's a backwater tier 3 base with no strategic value.

The remnant zeeks put everything they had on Torrington for no strategic purpose whatsever aside from muh ideals and getting unicorn coordinates.

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>>14576461
>all this butthurt.
Literally just about every kill that wasn't made by Reber, who was supposed to be some Feddie-born savant-level ace to begin with, was made by sheer numbers,, surprise tactics, leeroy jenkins-ing a measly force with heavy firepower and also numbers, and Kirk's sniper fire.

Seriously, TWO mobile suits lose to three heavily armored hovering MS, two of which were able to give the fucking Zeta and ZZ problems in 0088, and you guys lose your shit.

And then the Zeeks promptly get their shit kicked in once a SINGLE ACE in a single Gryps-Era suit hops in on the action, and the Tri-Stars clean up the leftovers. Shame he never met Reber; he would have wiped the floor with that brat.

Zeon may have started strong thanks to having numbers, sniper support, and the element of surprise, but that battle did a 180 the second one pilot, who isn't even important enough to get a face in the OVA, jumped in. Ever think that you guys are just faggots, sometimes?

>>14576639
>bitching about i-frames

He was in his dodge animation.

G-g-g-git gud scrub.

>>14576746
What about the scene with the General Revil, the lack of animation was even worse there also.

>>14576591
Wasn't that the super rare prototype suit that everyone has because it's a popular design.

>Ex-Feddie.

Wow he left the EF to join the 3 time losers? What a dumbass.

>>14576695
Exactly, this thread is so goddamn autistic.

Torrington was a surprise attack that ultimately got overpowered by the defenders. Hence why at the beginning they're doing so well, and then they all die. Is that so hard to understand?

Random, panicking mook GM pilots still putting their pants on are fighting an enemy consisting of 100% veterans with old, but often upmodded suits. And the suits themselves have certain advantages. The Dom, for example, is still an amazing mobile suit in a gravity environment. Likewise Zeon sea mobile suits are highly dangerous and specialized for their role; compare that to the Aqua GM, which is more like an attempt to just barely make the MS seaworthy.

The Zeeks have studied their defenders. They have an actual battle plan while the defenders are forced to react, and for a while it works.

Then veteran pilots (Tri-stars, Kobe Bryant) lead a counterattack using high tech airborne MS. Having sacrificed their own flight capabilities in the initial attack, the Zeon are left wide open. Their super powerful mobile armor trump card is unable to lend meaingful aid thanks to banana and riddler, so the force is obliterated.

Unicorn was full of so much cringing and boring shit; IMO Torrington was one of the best parts. Getting to see all the different MS from different eras on both sides, battling, gave me a massive chub.

>>14576783
Yeah the fight at the base was way better than Banana trying to talk Loni down after she killed 1 billion babies. Now Fag Mcdouche in his purple penis suit wiping
out the General Revil's MS force while they just sat and took it? That was far worse Zeon wank than anything at Torrington.

Shit was almost Jebus Yamato bad.

>>14576783
>Kobe Bryant
You mean a former Titans mechanic.

>>14576803
Everything to do with Banana-rama-sama is terrible, the whole plotline of the Unicorn and the search for the box is simply terrible.

>>14576438
GM III is my favorite mass produced mobile suit

>>14576817
It would have made more since if they had no idea what was in the box and that it could have been anything from a weapon to every last shady deal
the Federations done. Instead it's nothing but some hopeful manifesto that noone save hardcore Newtype/Spacenoid advocates would really care about.

Banana was even worse he's locked into his own opinion and doesn't learn shit even when reality comes crashing down on him and others ignore his hippy logic.

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Repeat that.

>>14576780
No the Efreet is just zeeks on Earth trying to make something better than a Gouf for ground combat, it's not really all that special, and we've seen 4 out of apparently 8 units made total. You've the base Efreet piloted by some Zeek commander in Cross Dimensions and then there's the one that had EXAM mounted on it, the basic one that got "upgraded" into the Schneid which is still essentially just a tuned up, basic Efreet and the one that got turned into the Nacht, which is the most guilty of being blatantly nippon ninja down to having a katana and shit to make it extra undetectable to anything but direct line of sight.

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Hey there muh fellow Jims, I heard this was where visor bros hang out.

Don't mind me, I'm just another Jim fighting to protect earth from a bunch of crazy colonists.

>>14576831
If they didn't show it to the viewer immediately, there would've definitely had a better sense of purpose. Most of the characters probably think it is something major like that. Only Siam and daddy Marcenas would know what it really was.

Though, if they did do the reveal, most people would probably feel pretty let down by the finale.

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>>14577114

Waddup brudda.

Let's kick some cyclop ass.

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>>14576410
>Rise from Ashes OVA series never
>We will never get a proper animated series of the best Western gundam game ever released
>Or see Rayer vs Visch

>>14576783
I don't like incredibly one-sided fights that completely fall apart under basic scrutiny.

>>14577916
And before you zeeks go "but muh kobe byarlant", that was not a case of non-responsive suits flopping over, the Zeon remnants put up a good fight but were outmatched as opposed to just standing there like they aren't even being piloted.

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Watching the December Sky/Thunderbolt movie because I enjoyed the ONA mini-series plenty enough to watch it again in the film format but. What the fuck is up with bullet drop in zero g? That makes zero fucking sense.

>>14577916
But literally every part of the Torrington battle made sense. It's been explained in this very thread how everything went down and why it went the way it went. There was nothing one-sided about it; the Zeeks had a field day at the start thanks to just about every condition being in their favor, but once the Feds regrouped, they were quickly dispatched by a superior force.

The most you can say is that Efreet with it's weird i-frames it seems to have but that can be chalked up to weird perspective born of shit animation.

>>14578049
And even then the only thing it did was beat a jury-rigged slight upgrade of a GM II, the shittiest of GMs.

>>14578065
The vanilla GM is worse than the GM II

>>14578072
Vanilla GM is the original GM, a OYW era MS. The GM Striker is a vriant of the GM II, which is a slightly improved GM I with a marginally better reactor and more combat oriented for close-quarters-combat.

The Efreet Schneid is some top of the line MS that got repeatedly customized, upgraded, and constantly retrofitted over the years that its official profile states its performance is well above what it normally should be.

And even then we're shown the pilot of the Striker holding out until the very end of their protracted duel against the Efreet custom.

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>>14578072
No, see, that's the original. You can't knock the OG, we started there Gundam notwithstanding. What one can definitely do, however, is knock a variant that does absolutely nothing special, doesn't even look different enough to add some variety like the Nemo or a shitload of other general purpose GM models and is a laughable barely there performance bump in canon to boot.

In short, GM-II is the most boring GM variant and that's why it sucks, GM-III was the true next generation of the stalwart.

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>>14578100
>some top of the line MS
>repeatedly customized, upgraded, and constantly retrofitted over the years
>its performance is well above what it normally should be

Lets not exaggerate how good the Efreet Schneid is here. The Efreet itself was essentially just a somewhat better Gouf with no heat rods made by Zeon's forces in Earth during the OYW. The Schneid has nothing special to it except for its multiple heat throwing knives, a thoroughly retarded weapon that's there because the pilot likes knife fighting and throwing.

Its performance is above what a OYW MS should have because even Gelgoogs are considered shitty by Zeta, but it's still about as cobbled together an upgrade as the Semi Striker. If we take the GMs as being about as good as a Dom spec-wise then the GM II is probably a superior base to work with and upgrade than an Efreet, for general purposes at least if not for specializing in CQC.

>>14578136
Not him but with the right work Gelgoogs can be upgraded to the point where they can fight a 0090's era Gaplant one on one, and in F90, old Zaku II Fs were upgraded to the point where they could outmatch a Geara Zulu in performance.

>>14578163
Then they aren't the same machine, they just look similar. It's like putting a body kit on a completely different machine and calling it an old upgraded model. It's really not.

>>14578171
If it has the same frame, its the same machine. Gundam is guilty of this in general. By the same virtue you can claim custom units for aces like Char, Johnny, etc...like their personal Zaku IIs, don't count as Zaku IIs because they're upgraded and customized for greater performance then the vanilla units.

>>14578181
Are you saying the Zaku IIS isn't a Zaku IIS?

>>14578049

I think most people are not complaining that a surprised attack worked, since they actually had some pretty modern machines as part of the assault force. The problem is the horrible choreography with the GMs and Nemos. They either were doing somethign stupid or just stood and do nothing when getting killed.

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>>14578163
The gelgoogs from MSVR are not actually gelgoogs. They are essentially a custom made new ms redesigned and built from the ground up with modern EF technology. Then they stuck gelgoog armor around it for aesthetics purposes.

They are not just upgraded gelgoogs, they are completely new machines. And they are far FAR above what a remnants group could cobble together. Don't use them as a comparison for this.

>>14578163
And iirc those Mars Zeon MS were a similar situation as the msvr gelgoogs in that they were completely new and modern ms that were made to look like the oyw versions.

>>14578214
>And they are far FAR above what a remnants group could cobble together
I thought Uma and his group are remnants?

>>14578227
His gelgoog was provided by a wealthy EF politician. Hence it using EF parts.

>>14578198
Its still a Zaku II.

>>14578198
I'm saying if you want to use that fringe logic, then Char or Johnny's customized Zaku IIs aren't Zaku IIs, period. Hence why its a flawed claim you were provoking with that statement earlier on.

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>>14578163
You're missing the point here, and getting some stuff wrong I'm pretty sure but I'mma just focus on the Efreet. Yes machines can be upgraded and fine tuned but a reconstructed base Gelgoog was regarded as something that should go to a museum in Zeta, one of the actual animated works. The Efreet was not Gelgoog levels of performance, it was just a good ground type MS of the run and jump type rather than the Dom's hovering type.

The Efreet Schneid is not some super Zeek gorilla warfare machine, it's just an old (if rare) solid machine that's been updated to not be a bipedal coffin and literally its only unique feature is carrying a bunch of throwing heat knives. All things considered its about even with something as crappily cobbled together as the Semi Striker, which at least had a (slightly) more advanced base from which to start working, and gets by on being a videogame named character.

>>14578251
Buddy, listen. If I put a Gelgoog shell on a totally different machine, it's not an upgraded Gelgoog. If you put a few thrusters and maybe tune up the reactor or joints on a Zaku II, it's a modified Zaku II. There is a difference.

>>14578252
The Schneid's pilot is the video game character.

>>14578257
I said the frame to begin with, not just cosmetics, pay attention to what I say.

>>14578269
Neither the MSV-R Supergoogs or Mars Zeon uses the frame. The internals are basically 100% new machine so it's irrelevant anyway.

>>14578283
I never made the argument about the MSV-R stuff, you have me confused with the other guy.

>>14578301
Wait qhat are you arguing then?

>>14578314
Scroll up a few posts.

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>>14578283
When Rimia talks about the analysis of Uma's Gelgoog, she's quite certain that it's a Gelgoog that has been upgraded rather than being a completely new and different suit with Gelgoog armor on top. She says it has telltale signs of a "fluid pulse system" and a "field motor" judging by the noise emitted from the Gelgoog. It's made up technobabble, but the point of the dialogue is that only Zeon suits have fluid pulse systems, and it has been augmented by new Federation technology as opposed to being an entirely new machine which wouldn't have the Zeon style fluid pulse system in the first place.

>>14578269
>>14578301
The argument further up the chain was about the googs and mars zeon zaku as an example of "upgraded machines" and when this was countered with the fact that they are in fact completely different machines that just look like them >>14578181 came in saying that if they have the same frame they are the same machine, which was irrelevant to this because as pointed out the examples do not have the same frame.

>>14578323
The one that took on the gaplant was Johnny's which was newly built (his original was lost) and supposed to be very high preformance.

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>>14575463
>Not having Shot Lancers

>>14578351
Don't insult your great Grandfather's cousin, young man.

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>>14578333
Yes, but there's more than one "MSV-R Supergoog" in the manga and we're not just talking about Johnny's machine. Jacobius's sniper model, Uma's blue model, and Johnny's custom model are all highly spec'd and modernized.

It's true that Johnny's model is even higher end than Uma's model, though.

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>A GM that surpasses being a GM

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CHOU KYODAI GATTAI
GREAT GM

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>>14578383

>>14577969
Its not a bullet drop, more like a strafe shooting. He's triying to trace the Gundam, so that kind of motion is expected.

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>>14578375
>Surpases being a GM
>Not Hazel

She's surpasses for being a GM, both mentally and physically.

But her soul is still a GM, just with more thrusters and GUNDAMU level of peformance.

>>14578326
That doesn't detract from my statement at all. If its the same suit with upgraded thrusters, apogee motors, better sensors, avionics, etc...its still just an upgraded version of the same suit.

If it just EXTERNALLY resembles an older unit but is internally from the ground up and built and designed from a different concept, then it is not the same suit. Hence why the MSV-R Gelgoogs would not count but why the customized suits and variants of Zaku IIs would.

>>14578375
>What is the GM III

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What is /m/'s opinion on this GM and its pilot in particular?

>>14578619
Being incinerated by a beam saber is likely a cleaner death than being riddled with bullets

>>14578367
Actually since the one anon used in the example as having taken on a gaplant to prove gelgoogs can be upgraded super far is Johnny's specifically, then yes we are talking about Johnny's. Which as the manga points out only looks like a gelgoog.

>>14578559
>Gundamface
>Golden fins
>large amounts of experimental high performance technology
>no longer resembles a GM in any way, shape or form

Sorry, no dice

>>14578565
No the GM III is still classed as a GM, that one started out as the GM Wagtail, but when it was further upgraded the GM designation was removed because it just wasn't quite one anymore and it's just called the Wagtail II.

>>14578375
>>14578559

no visor ≠ GM

>>14579406
So Dynames is a GM?

>>14578619
which series please?

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>>14576412
Haha! Look at this funny man.

>>14576410
My good fellow

>>14578619
He's a goddamn middleschooler you know that right? Plus that whole thing was fucking retarded if they wanted to kill them the marines with Cornelius should've just shot them while he was distracting them.

>>14580129
All they had to do was press a button and they'd all be fucked.

The beam saber shit was a better way.

>>14578619
Context?

>>14580129
>Four high ranking Zeon officers and leaders are holding a final meeting where they can blow up the entire warship and kill everyone; Zeon captives and Federation soldiers
>This is literally allahu ackbar tier shit
>One of the men accompanying Cornelius uses a spycam to plot their position
>Friend GM takes them out saving the lives of hundreds of others people from this fate
>ITS RETARDED
Nah, it made sense.

>>14580205
>>Friend GM takes them out saving the lives of hundreds of others people from this fate
Except Cornelius actually talked them down and if they took them prisoner instead could've used them to stop that one cripple form setting off the ships ammunition.

Thunderbolt is pretty much shit and is not written to make sense, it was created for the writer of it to masturbate and use the setting as his jizz rag to mop the results up.

>>14580232
>Except Cornelius talked them down
No proof of that. Their only shown hesitating, not that it equates to them relenting to stop themselves or giving up yet. They took the best absolute course of action.

Get fucked Zeekshit.

>>14580232
Which now that I think about it it's pretty funny the assumed the Zeon might try and destroy the ship by destroying the engines reactor but apparently didn't think they would set off their ammunition compartment.

>>14580194
EF group lost their ship and are taking over the crippled Zeon ship. The Zeon group had a bomb that would kill everyone on the ship, EF and them at a standoff and Zeon prepping to set off the bomb rather than be captured. One EF guy starts talking them down. They start listening. Outside the ship a gm on the hull stabs a beam saber in and kills them so they can't set off the bomb (EF guy talking them down was unaware they were planning this).

>>14580257
>Risking setting off a nuclear explosion by poking your beam saber into a ships engine is the best course.
>>14580263
Actually I don't know if it's different in the manga but considering one of the other Engineers immediately after that basically goes, Good Job Cornelius, I think it might've been hinting he knew but was still genuine in what he was saying.

>>14580272
>highly accurate surgical strike with a beam saber is now risking a nuclear explosion

>>14580250
Kill yourself.

>>14580276
Thunderbolt is actually pretty shitty, you just don't think so because the first part is good, read the manga until the SSA shows up.

>>14580292
>Manga
Don't care. Stay mad, kusotachi.

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>>14580315
But anon, I've let go of anger, you should as well.

>>14579988
Thunderbolt

>>14580261
In UC (likely applies to Thunderbolt as well) the space propulsion technology is thermonuclear rocket engines instead of the chemical rocket engines we use today. That means reactor is tied into ship's rocket engines because they use energy from the reactor to heat rocket propellant. The ship's powerplant and engines provides power to the entire ship, so there are conduits running from the engines throughout the ship's structure and from reactor to the main beam guns. Rigging the engines and reactor to blow up could very well affect most of the ship.

On the other hand, most warship ammunition storage rooms are designed to be isolated and well protected, so a lucky enemy hit or careless crewmen might not (but still can) fuck up the whole ship if the ammunition blows up.

And if I remember right, the Zeeks do blow up the ammunition hold but it wasn't enough to destroy the entire ship, because we know the Feddies that captured the ship mostly survived, including Cornelius.

>>14576438
GM III is my bae

ゲルググならMS-14Gが良かったな

I gotta go with the GM Striker. I don't know what it is, but it's just so cool. The (non-Sentinel) GM III is a very close second.

>>14580232
What about the dude with the mask in the engie room?

He was the fail safe man and he succ

eeded right?

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>>14583575
And a ching chong nip RGM-79FD to you too, young man!

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>>14584564
Translation says he's zeek promoting the Ground Type Gelgoog. Responding with that GM was the right call.

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>>14576493
Superior superior ver

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>>14576410
This game was my childhood, I wanted to be a GM pilot so bad...

>>14576811

And that's what you get when you reintegrate even mooks from an ace unit. Zeon murderball.

>>14586149
Remember how it felt to pilot and get the GM Sniper II at the end of the game for the final mission and facing off with Visch as he desperately defended the HLVs?

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>>14586408
Rise from the Ashes is such an amazing game.

Also, props to it for being the ONLY Gundam game that actually applies a level of customizable complexity to the beam saber combat.

>that chilling exhiliration you get when you clash saber and heat hawk/sword and their mono-eye stares directly into your soul.

God, this game got SO much right...

And shame, SHAME on the new Side Stories game for PS3 for not having a cockpit view.

>>14576361
but it's orange..