/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1049

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MD English HYPE

>>14553811
Well, the translation couldn't be as bad as the "MD Plot thread" I saw in my 30 seconds of curiosity in the srw reddit. How do you translate Calvina into "Galvina"?

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Breast girl.

>>14553813
The what now

So SRW reddit worse than SRW gamefaqs?

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>>14553815

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>>14553811
LE Hype

>>14553819
All I know is I'm never going back there. I wanted to see it after I recalled someone here saying it existed. It's like dead posts about X-O and like 1 or 2 threads about actual games.

>>14553813
>reddit

If you're in it for the GC/XO story, you're going to be thoroughly disappointed. I haven't played GC/XO, but they got fucked in the ass by J this time, in all senses.

They spent a great deal of time setting up for things to come in the 3rd Alpha, which I assume is coming in the next game. This made the main storyline a little weak. The game has a total of 47 stages, but felt shorter than OG Gaiden, which has 10 less stages. There's a noticeable amount of filler stages. For example, there's one stage early in the game that's literally like "take a few thousand HP off the only enemy on the map and clear".

However, the game in my opinion has the best written new characters out of all the OG games. I liked all the new villain characters, and the J protagonists all have satisfying character developments.

Comparing to the new characters who got all the spotlight, most of the old characters (even characters only introduced in the last game) have nearly zero character development and zero story involvement. It feels like most of them are there but might as well not be there.

The Masoukishin story felt extremely half-assed. The game takes place after Masoukishin F, but the in game characters and mechs do not reflect that in any way at all, as if after all that happened, they time skipped right back toward the end of the 2nd OG. This is one of the things that annoyed me the most.

It seems like Calvina decided to take Kira Yamato's map attack with her coming from J to OG. It still can't compare to Neo Granzon but damn...

Final score: 1/10 because no Lefina in pajama this time.

>>14553828
Please stop, I already learned my lesson.

>>14553828

so they are actually able to tell it as it is instead of being dogpiled by the /m/ hivemind. nice

>>14553811
same here lah

>>14553828
>It seems like Calvina decided to take Kira Yamato's map attack with her coming from J to OG

But Bellzelute had the same exact map as Kira in J

>>14553828
All of this is 100% correct.

>>14553828
OGMD feels like what if you took a single 50 episode super robot series and turn it into a turn-based rpg.

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Praise the princess!

Why don't they make any proper SRWs anymore instead of all that mobile and OG shit?

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>>14553845
You have that little faith in V, anon?

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>>14553845
Did you missed SRW Z3 last year?

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>>14553845
I miss Shin SRW too.

>>14553847
To be fair, who would

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>It's exactly the same as J the MAP weapon

Whoever wrote that is a moron

>>14553849
Z3 was more than 2 years ago with an expansion pack last year.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10861619

>>14553847
>see the cast list
>the boring half of Z3 cast
>Cross Ange
>more Gundams than ever
>no Macross
>dude battleships

I give it 3/10 at best

>>14553857
I'm gonna assume "other" means "all" in this situation.

>>14553861
>>more Gundams than ever

Whether you mean ratio of Gundam to overall cast, or number of Gundam series, you're incorrect.

>>no Macross
>>dude battleships

That's contradictory, isn't it?

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>>14553849
>The artist is such a hack he traces over promo materials to stay even slightly on-model
Why'd they keep him for V? Those new portraits for Kouji and Ryouma look pretty hideous.

>>14553828
>The Masoukishin story felt extremely half-assed. The game takes place after Masoukishin F, but the in game characters and mechs do not reflect that in any way at all, as if after all that happened, they time skipped right back toward the end of the 2nd OG.
Yes, it's not like a large swath of the MK characters around in 2nd aren't available because the things powering their mechs may or may not be slightly dead, Cybuster only making it across thanks to the dual powers of MC and Greenriver. Or that Granzon retains its horrifying ability to go Neo more or less when Shu feels like it. I hear Valsione is missing some weapons but eh.

Then again, if the alternative is another 17 stages of filler a la 2nd, I am perfectly happy with MD's amount of MK plot.

>>14553861
>Cross Ange
>dude battleships

But those are the only two noteworthy things in V's entire cast list.

>Rewatching the all attacks videos for S1 00

I miss them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSlGoHAeZLc

OH SHIT

>>14553875
Me too. I also miss S2. Specifically the 00 Raiser

>>14553875
As shitty as Z2 got, I can't hate a game that actually gave some love to the Wing units.

Too bad about Z3.

When it comes to V, the only things that really pop out for me are Mazinger ZERO, Crossbone and maybe Might Gaine if it gets cooler animations.
Zeta and Nu look like ten times jankier than they did in Z3, they managed to totally waste Yamato by making it into a 3D model, Cross Ange had the chance to at least get cool animations but instead is getting like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7roP3DJPEE
tier bullcrap, and the rest of the cast is ho-hum at best and jesus christ why didn't you use literally anyone else at worst.

Also, the UI looks like garbage and although it looks like they might be going back to bust portraits, the new artist can't draw worth shit so a lot of the portraits that aren't lifted from Z1 look kind of awful. I don't have high hopes for V is what I'm saying.

>>14553875
Fuck that here's your 00 movie and aliens

>>14553881
>Also, the UI looks like garbage

Well duh, it's also incomplete.

>>14553875
Exia's animations were fucking sexy, I miss it a lot.

>lets put FMP and Eva in the game again
>former has shit fucking animation even though I really like the show
>latter is not even finished and the plot will go nowhere again

What were they thinking? Might as well put Godzilla in V

>>14553882
AYYY LMAO

>>14553888
They were, it got a good amount of love.

>>14553875
Hakai-hen has probably the best animations in crossover SRW history. Saisei was kind of a step down for a lot of the cast, probably because they got more time to pull off Hakai.

>>14553892
Every time I look at Z2-1 Deathscythe, and then look at every version of Z's Deathscythe Hell, I get a little sad. Poor thing had no luck at all.

>>14553868
>EX plot
>filler
kill yourself

>>14553898
Those 17 stages are filler and boring

>>14553887
>>14553866
Muh V defenshits

>>14553900
So then MD is filler too because half of the game is filler and boring, at least according to your words

>>14553889
I thought that the FMP units that aren't Falke had pretty good animations. With Arbalest, though, it feels like the more they tweak it, the worse it looks.

I actually kind of dislike the Amalgam unit animations. They just look super-weird to me.

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Which OG character has very complex motives?

V is shit, even Japan knows it, during the anniversary event they keep typing on Niconico about V being Z3 when the teaser PV was playing

>>14553868
Every time I start a new OG2nd run I always looking forward to the MK stages. It let me build up kills and tinker with mech I usually don't bother to use

It is comfy

>>14553894
TV Deathscythe Hell was alright.

>>14553902
MD is not boring at all, 17 stages of EX is boring no matter who you ask here or elsewhere

>>14553904
Russel

>>14553905
Well they show like every fucking series in Z3 before the new stuff in the event

>>14553911
You must be retarded if you liked the stages with ghosts and goblins

>>14553896
Looking good there sensei, and she is barely older than her students (or so she claims).

>>14553904
Why do people complain about Delta

His motives are explained thoroughly and his abilities make sense

>>14553917
yes this was all part of my plan (((((^:
it was also me (((((((((((^^^^^::::

>>14553914
Says the retarded person that likes 17 stages of EX filler

Wonkysoft went bankrupt, just shows no one likes or cares about MK

>>14553904
Shu
Euzeth
Gilliam
Ratsel
Mekibos

>>14553917
How bout the part where he just happens to find out that a religious fanatic wipes humanity out despite not being a fucking shifter in the first place?

>>14553920
Not liking something doesn't make it filler, retard. Not having any purpose in the story like half of MD is filler, dipshit.

>>14553898
Even if for some retarded reason you like EX's bullshit, it's filler as far as the rest of 2nd OG goes. Even GC, shafted as it is, is an actual part of MD without ripping everyone out of the story to go deal with someone else's story in a completely new setting for no payoff.

Unless you see 'the MK crew is gone for half the game afterwards' to be payoff.

Honestly, the EX shit in 2nd OG is awful for everyone. If you love the MK crew they're snatched from you after that split for a retarded amount of time, and if you don't you're stuck in an irrelevant prologue for a quarter of the game.

>>14553908
No it wasn't. It was like 90% a fucking cutin on its finisher, the generic scythe was closer to Z3 than Z2-1, and the first two animations were... well, they were "stand and fire weapon" so about typical quality I guess.

>>14553916
Are you doubting her claims of being a 17-year-old?

>>14553927
Still way better than Z3.

>>14553930
"It's better than nothing."

>>14553928
>mfw she is going to voice Akane Ardygun in the next game

>>14553867
Pretty sure V has different style than Z3's OGs. The fact that they're not tracing the anime art means we might get full body portrait now.

>>14553931
Which is more than can be said of yourself, hilariously.

>>14553927
>the generic scythe was closer to Z3 than Z2-1
What?
>It was like 90% a fucking cutin on its finisher
Huh?

Mattman, usually I can understand at least a bit of your nonsense, but right now you're just talking shit.

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>>14553936
>full body portrait

This is not XO mate

>>14553892
Even non-moving robots in Hakai got great animations, see Virtue and Godmars.

>>14553881
Nobody gives a shit about you or how much you're disappointed because in the game there is not what you wanted.

Is there PB scans for Hakai?

Daily reminder, OG2nd only had 46 stages, 44 if you didn't get the true ending route and EX 17 stages are boring filler that no one gives a shit about

>>14553943
He's right though. Deathscythe just kinda crouch down, bring in hyper jammer cutins, then the screen fades to black, another cutins to DH's sillhouete then the enemy is slashed with Z3-tier scythe animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLVdkgwbHdc

>>14553948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2q4H6IzUo

>>14553868

Even still though, they're literally ripped right from OGS2 (or DP in the case of Granzon) like the MK stuff never happened, with the sole exception of Granzon getting to go Neo at will like in the last LOE game.

All they extra attacks you can get in MK aren't in, and while possession is obviously out, stuff like Cybuster's regular mode's new attacks or Valsione's (or their combo attack) aren't in simply because of laziness. In fact despite Cybuster running on a brand new dark power source that's not reflected in the game all, as it still is powered by the wind and summons the runes like normal.

They couldn't even fix Galinagant's sprite so it's not an obvious mirror of the enemy sprite.

>>14553944
GC had full body portraits? I really oughta play that one day.

>>14553904
Russel

So, OG2nd had
Alpha 2
D
MX

Next game is
Alpha 3
W maybe
What console game will fill this slot?

>>14553889
They should really put EoE alongside Rebuild so it's actually worth a shit.

What games is the Deathscythe actually good in? It always feels mediocre to me.

>>14553928
Even her real age (21) is ridiculous since she always looks like late 20's woman. .

>>14553952
>if I post about it enough times people might think it's multiple people

>>14553964
Hakai. Real robots in there aren't really ridiculous so Deathscythe can compete.

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>>14553937
I can deal with that.

>>14553943
Ok, so go look up Deathscythe's animations. I'd post them, but the only flavors on Youtube seem to be "terrible quality" and "Mechaextreme" so maybe boot up Z2-2 and just look at the animations. They're pretty good.

Now look at these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLVdkgwbHdc

Ok, so first two attacks aren't... particularly bad, but they're standing and firing. That's not exactly difficult to animate. They can be ignored for this.

The basic scythe attack looks terrible compared to Z2-1. It doesn't fucking flow right. He goes from "standing facing the enemy preparing to a slash" pretty much straight into "facing away from the enemy, swing of slash entirely done, scythe held over shoulder" in, what, a few frames? It looks like shit. Most of the last attack is a moving cutin, and the cutin doesn't work well with the actual sprite, it's like freaking BX Raijin-Oh. Not to mention Deathscythe's face is RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE ENEMY, which makes no sense given it's using a fucking scythe as a weapon, meaning it needs to be at a distance (which is also a problem BX Raijin-Oh had come to think of it, not looking properly distanced from the enemy before an attack on its finisher.)

In terms of quality it's closer to Z3 than it is to the original Deathscythe's.

>>14553962
Scramble Commander 2, I guess, but then for OGG it wasn't a console game in that slot - it was Compact 3.

>>14553889

To their credit they're at least trying to do something with EVA by giving un controllable rage mode Shinji for once.

It's not much, but it's better than tossing the whole plot off screen because nobody knows what Anno's trying to do but him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luaw6xFb9Lc

Sexia and best Ryusei.

>>14553813
>>14553819
>>14553828
Long time SRW player here, only found out about this sub a few days ago. Can't say I'm surprised about the sub's activities, or the lack there of. Nevertheless, I will share here what I've seen and heard from Japanese players who's already gotten the game and beaten it, hope this will satisfy your hunger and thirst before you get your hands on the English release. Everything you're about to read is 100% confirmed to be legitimate. If you don't want spoilers, idk why are you here in the first place because, you know, the title.

The game has a total of 47 stages on normal ending. Touya is the center of the story this time, and Galvina pretty much got kicked to the curb comparing to him.

Following up with Touya being the absolute center of the story this time: Granteed gets not one, but TWO upgrades. The second upgrade allows it to have two sub-pilots and unlocks another attack that looks like Great Mazinger's Great Booster attack.

Now comes the big reveal: The Balmarian Empire makes its appearance. We see both the male and the female Ingram clones (forgot their names, but the male pilots the yellow mech and female the light pink mech, I'm sure you remember because in early stages of 3rd Alpha they appeared a lot). Selena's squad gets wrecked by them (very likely that it was done off-screen) just like in 3rd Alpha. No other Balmarian villain from 3rd Alpha at this time.

The final boss in Masoukishin F survived and came to the OG world via the Crossgate. Judging from his new form, he somehow managed to hijack the XN-Geist.

The J villains fought with the Ruinas in the past and won. Granteed was built as the ultimate weapon against Perfectio.

You fight all three of Darkbrain's commanders from the Compatible Kaiser game. Nothing much is known at this time, but Darkbrain is probably back.

>>14553972
Wait, found its Z2-1 animations in actual ok video quality (if not sound quality).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_88yKU0Img

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>>14553970
Oh I forgot about Hakai, I even did a fucking Reals-only run of it.
I don't think I actually used the Deathscythe though until the final stage. Jokes on me I guess.

>>14553968
>if I falsely claim samefagging I can ignore that they're telling the truth

>>14553978
>Galvina
Goddamn, how?

>>14553975
What if Lockon replaced Ryusei ?

>>14553972
Shenlong to Altron was another noticeable downgrade. I think the only Wing units that didn't see a downgrade were the Wing itself and Heavyarms.

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>>14553988
Then when Crowe gets into OG, he can have his husbando back.

>>14553964
The scythe attack is ridiculously good in @G (1~5 range, P, I think 0 EN, decent damage) but DS itself is sluggish without a booster or a minovsky craft to route around terrain.

>>14553964
W gave it this ludicrous bullshit MAP that's like 1-5 radial or something silly. L toned that MAP down but it was still pretty big. If you're into that sort of thing, those games.

Those and Z2's silliness aside, Deathscythe's more useful in that it's consistently good than in its being really great or anything. It's good in AP, in R, in Compact 1 and 3, in Alpha Gaiden, in the other Alphas, it's pretty good in most games that have it, though it doesn't often stick out to a crazy degree.

>>14553978
>Great Booster attack
Now that I think about it, it feels pointless. They should have Granteed attack the enemy with something while the Basileus is ramming the enemy.

>>14553987
It's easy to mistake カ for ガ.

>>14553978
>This bullshit
>five million replies

>someone linked TE's pastebin
>0 replies

K E K
E
K

TE A SHIT

>>14553997
I remember TE tweeting about how /v/ is a better place to discuss translations than reddit.

>>14553993
The range was only silly if you realized it never saw use in games where you weren't deliberately sending DS in the middle of everything to trigger it, if DS didn't just critmurder everything before it had the chance.

The MAP's not P (although L's probably should have been) and I don't recall Duo getting Awaken/Zeal, at least in time to avoid being benched by better units.

>>14553964
>>14553992
It's really good in alpha gaiden because its weapons are cheap as fuck to upgrade, something below 200k IIRC

Makes the early game much less painful

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/185527-super-robot-taisen-og-the-moon-dwellers/74083983

>it pains me to not be able to use GG as FF is the better option imo, and preference-wise I think most people will go with FF anyway (correct me if I'm wrong).

>Everyone on /srwg/ noticed the GG is better than FF

TOP KEK

>>14553986
Barely half an hour has passed since you said the exact same shit.

>>14554009
>let's keep bitching about posters instead of what they're posting
Enjoy your
F I L L E R
I
L
L
E
R

>>14554007
>It pains me to not be able to use GG as FF is the better option
Just... fucking use it? I don't even care if FF is better gameplay-wise because it's exactly G Pachinko except uglier.

>>14553978
Wow where do I begin.
He may as well wrote Cobray appeared and wrecked Calico and Spectra for lolz.

>>14553978
>J villains fought with Ruina in the past and won
The fuck did I just read? How did 2nd OGs even happen then?

>>14553922
Shifters saw visions of the nuclear war through the field and/or shifted back from the timeline where the nuclear war happens. Then Delta read their minds. It's all explicitly stated.

Not that I'm defending ZTD's final act.

>>14554029
Half of that looks like extrapolation we've done ourselves back when the game was brand new and we were trying to guess the whole game using moonrune spoilers and screenshot leaks
Except their stupid early threads don't eventually disappear like ours do

>>14554007
FF isn't THAT bad.
Akimi has built-in Support Attack and most of its attack bypass barrier for Fury scums.

>>14554040
Read TE pastebin

http://pastebin.com/axSkbHHv

>>14554048
They didn't win though.

>>14554052
Yes they did.

>>14554052
Beating back Ruina & sealing Perfectio and not being consumed by Perfectio is a victory

>The Granteed was piloted by Touya and Shana-Mia's fathers.
That's gay.

>>14554048
Correction
http://pastebin.com/xS1guRpU

>>14554060
Nah, it was bromance.

>>14554065
I chuckled.

>>14554065
Checks out.

Which game is the Ramalis from?
Is that OGMD original?

Outside of doujinka, I can't help but feel like SRW is missing the creative part of its fanbase.

Barely any artists or music remixers or anything. Just people that play the game and occasionally make porn of the characters.

>>14554052
They won by sealing Perfectio. Perfectio mentioned they all sacrificed their lives to seal him

Steel Dragon did it better by only sacrificing Ventus and Chris

Poor Ventus ;_;

>>14554101
Don't worry, next game Perfectio will be defeated for good with a good ol' Regret Buster

>>14554129
>Mist
>next game

But what's my theme song

>>14554129
Regret Buster was a mistake. It's the Build Knuckle of SRW.

>>14554136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGcznjK33PQ

>>14554129

I still like my fanfictiony idea where Mist becomes the villain out of circumstance
>Guys what if, and follow with me on this.
>What if they have the next OG game take place on Atreem? You end up there because of Crossgate shenanigans, and your presence there attracts the enemies of K to it. But at the halfway point of the game you fuck up somehow in fighting the final boss, and it causes Atreem's destruction. However, the K villains are killed in K's destruction.
>And then Mist goes crazy blaming YOU for it, and becomes the villain of the rest of the game. His death line as the final boss can even be
>Things were so much better before you came to Atreem...

>>14554136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf9wP-XEKo4

>>14554100
>I can't help but feel like SRW is missing the creative part of its fanbase.
>Barely any artists or music remixers or anything
It's like a pretty niche field.

XN-L is literally anti-spiral

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>It's a "lets shit on something no one really cares about, because we already discussed this to hell and back, just to annoy the ever loving fuck out of people while I continue to say even more stupid shit" episode

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>>14554150
>mfw

>>14554152
Don't talk shit about my waifu like that.

She's completely original and cool and sexy in every way.

Fucking punk.

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>>14554157
>Last fighter twin
>not a twin
>not even the last of his race

>>14554136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GwuGI_gkEg
I'm sure if I wasn't so tired I could come up with something better.

>>14554100
So just like every other game that isn't indie?

>>14554129
Can't wait for HD Solvrias Rex.

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>>14554159
You must be excited by facing me.

If you win, you win.

But if you lose, you've got an excuse.

Now it's time for you to hear the roar of the soul that time could not tame.

>>14554160
I can dig it.

>>14554175
Why are you using a watermelon

>>14554151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EiIPe11hsU

Chiptune Remix ftw

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>>14554177
I'm actually fighting a watermelon.

I haven't recruited the watermelon yet.

She's actually pretty intimidating in this stage and all the comments by the cast are implying they're pretty horrified that they have to go up against an Oni

On the other hand, everything I've seen of her in the past seems to imply she's basically the setting's Boss.

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Subtle but not really.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Immaterial_and_Missing_Power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9LYj3f-Qic

>Valcazard'a theme: Just One Chance Remix

3rd OG's ver is going to be hotblooded for sure

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>>14554194
>Valcazard and Banpreios in one game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vth84sdENac

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Godzilla VS Ideon when?

We can all agree that Z1 is garbage right?

>>14554194
They'll change it into a flaccid theme like Limit Over.

>>14554206
Full Possession Godzilla is stronger than Shulawga

>>14554208
Crut, it is a possibility. But BP wouldn't let everyone down like that, right?

Reminder Shu is gonna get an upgrade so he can continue to flaunt his smug dick over everyone as the power level rises.

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>>14554207
No

>>14554208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypRtjr8bmW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11uIDn-TkW8

A lot of the "fluff" in the original Limit Over is from J's rather weird soundfont for a GBA game.

>>14554207
You misspelled Z3.

>>14554218
Without Z1 we would have never gotten Z2 or Z3 and that in of itself is the best timeline.

>>14554208
>Limit Over MD
>bad

Fucking Jfags reeeee

>>14554230
No Z1 is the one that started the shit so I have to say that one is the worst.

>>14554234
>>14554239
Might as well say SRW is bad because it has Shin SRW

Now what

>>14554239
Then you might as well say the very first SRW is the worst shit of all time.

>>14554243
>>14554245
>Implying SRW is good

>>14554239
>Z3 is shit
>so I'll say a better game is worse for existing
Z1 didn't make Z3 shit, Z3 did that all on its own.

>>14554225
So is Desire and Drumfire but the OG version is still faithful to the original.

>>14554207
Is today the opposite day?

>>14554208
I like J's fate and, I don't know how to explain it but it feels "girly".

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>>14554157
I knew you'd appreciate, Afendi.
>>14554207
The only garbage Z is Z3.
>>14554251
>So is Desire
DESIRE!?

>>14554216
Mary Shu

>>14554100
There's this one guy who add lyrics to the various themes and actually sing it.

Quality is spotty, but that's to be expected from an amateur.

It's something.

>>14554251
Yes but even in the original games, those two songs had way more meat to them.

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I feel like OG is gonna go the way of the Z series and end with a disappointing wet fart.
It's sharing a lot of the same issues.

>fuckhuge cast list that can only get bigger
>power levels rapidly climbing
>lot of shit to cover before the swiftly encroaching "ending"
>blowing the load early (setting in motion the events of @3 before a fair number of games get in)

I think we might get a post-Keisar/True Final Boss reboot to try and force the series to continue.
Or we'll get shittily done MotW-tier padding that just feels underwhelming after we've beaten Keisar/TFB. (Bear in mind we're apparently not getting Z in OG.)

Maybe I'm just letting the Despair Route get to me.

>>14554269
I know that guy that made vocal Trombe. What other songs are there?

>>14554256
Today is say all the stupid shit day to make it seem like your taste is so refined and your dick is huge day

>>14554271
Keisar Ephes is small time when there's Kadums around

>>14554271
>OG
>fuckhuge cast list
Stopped reading there.

>>14554272
http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/9088288

Here's his playlist.

I like his Taco Na Gu Ri the best.

>>14554259
Because OG has a huge hard-on for violin/piano stuff but only for girls.

Guys are usually just loads and loads of guitars.

>>14554271
>(Bear in mind we're apparently not getting Z in OG.)
Isn't this a misinterpretation all along and the actual sentence was "Z wasn't designed with OGs in mind" i.e they didn't intentionally write in plot elements to fit it into OGs, not that it would never show up

OY KIMI-TACHI

What should I throw in the final slot?

I'm honestly thinking of Melee+ because I keep using Stardust Reverie a lot.

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>>14554286
Forgot my picture.

>>14554271
Actually, I feel like it's possible to set up OG as a comic book like universe. Basically an ongoing continuity, a sliding timescale and no planned end. It would basically be perfect.

>>14554284
Then, baam. Z happened in OG cause reasons, surprise, motherfcking srw fans!

Probably 30th anniversary i guess.

>>14554289
*perfect for it.

>>14554288
Support Attack

OG is not ending after Balmar when they just getting started with Kadum storyline

>>14554288
Support Attack.

My only worry about OG is when they get to the ongoing phase of "young man and his female subpilot in a super robot phase" which looks likely to continue through every licensed game going forward.

>>14554193
It's not actually a title drop. EoSD and MoF's were literally translations of the english titles into japanese. This one was just "missing power", since in the setting the oni are literally missing.

Because they left.

>>14554295
True they could prolong OG with that but I feel like it's gonna end with Supreme Z-tier shittiness.
They have to one-up the last game's power levels every time so the enemies actually feel "threatening" and that's gonna get harder and harder while retaining actual quality since we've got shit like Valzacard on the horizon.

I still think Valzacard's gonna end up like the Excellences. It's gonna flaunt it's dick around for a game and then get written out for a while.

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SOON

>>14554304
We still have a few, one's just hanging out, one's getting drunk in a cave, and one's convinced she's got everyone fooled with her "totally a hermit" stuff

>>14554309
Diver never ever.

>>14554308
Nah, powerlevels mean shit. There is no reason to write Valzacard out. Also, at least they seem to have an idea where to go unlike Z where they likely made up all that shit in the last game.

>>14554308
Since this isn't the Z series are we getting Supreme OG instead?

Supreme Original Giant?

>>14554310
Is her manga series still trying to pretend she ain't an oni?

>>14554313
No one like Ryusei water stages in OG1, period

>>14554308
OG is going to end at God Noa. There might be another time skip after the Balmar.

>>14554314
They've already written Touya out of the start and possibly middle of the next game by making him fuck off with the Dracodeus since it's arguably the strongest thing in OG right now.

Valzacard is very likely to either only show up during the OG finale (which means W plot gets shafted) or it shows up for W plot and gets Rescue'd until something big enough to warrant its use shows up (more likely scenario).

Although a Valrescue wouldn't be too bad if it keeps up the trend of the Val- series having pretty good designs.

>>14554323
He can just come back in a Vorlent.

>>14554323
Valzacard only showed up for a handful of stages in W as it is. W being around with the Valhawak/stork/guard combo for a game or two is perfectly doable.

>>14554327
>Vorlent with Orgone Cloud

>>14554327
I'd love that because the Vorlent is cool but that's still dodging the power level issue by putting him in an inferior mech.

>>14554330
Doesn't it already have that in J?

>>14554323
But Zuvorg has active communication with earth now and teleportation. He may come a little late, but I guarantee that he'll back next game.

>>14554331
It did; it was the only starter mech with Orgone Cloud which made it a little monster.

>>14554334
Yeah, now i'm wondering which BP original that has the strongest pre-upgraded mech in the series

>>14554333
Touya probably will show up not super-late, but with stock Granteed, since the Princess (and thus Basileus) are are probably still off at Zovorg doing princess-y political stiff. Then she shows up later when shit hits the fan.

Problem solved.

>>14554338
Neo Granzon obviously

Infinity Calibur is only 8500 while Shukutaihou is 9100

Dracodeus may be strongest plot wise but Banpresto loves to fellate Neo Granzon

>>14554338
Oh, it's SRX, isnt it? I'm so dumb.
SRX into Banpreios.
Vorlent with orgone cloud is still broken in J though.

>>14554338
I haven't played OGG or C3 but I hear Folka is a monster.
Out of what little I've played it's probably Revlias from SRW K.

>>14554333
I know which is what will likely happen next game but they've still made him conveniently absent for a portion of the next game.

It's not like a natural "The Hagwane is chilling on one side of Earth while the Kulogwane is chilling on the other so this is why the whole squad is gathered." deal it's a "HEY WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE STRONGEST MECH IN OG IS NOT HERE SO HE DOESN'T JUST BACKHAND WHATEVER BADDIE SHOWS UP."

Not like this is a real problem but saying "Oh they don't care about the power levels interfering" is stupid.

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ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>14554345
*this is why the whole squad isn't gathered

>>14554342
Pre-upgrade as in 'before the obligatory mid-series upgrade', so Neo's right out. Probably Granzon too for that matter.

>>14554343
I don't feel like SRX should count because it's not properly playable in the same game as it's upgrade. Werkbau is a better @3 example IIRC because that thing is a counter murder machine.

>>14554331
They'd just pull something like "Granteed is the royal throne with our god attached to it, we don't appreciate you taking it for roadtrips, have this grunt mech instead."

>>14554345
It's perfectly natural; Gu-Landon torpedoed any possible goodwill Earth had for their new neighbors by being a gigantic douche, so the Fury gets to play space hobo and Touya's hanging out with them since he's half-Fury anyway and probably banging Shana-Mia on the side.

>>14554352
Wrong, Tou-ya is the Protector of the Imperial family now and one of the only two persons besides Shana-Mia that can move Granteed

>>14554352
Again, that's fine and all but it's still them dodging around the issue of "Oh fuck if we keep Granteed in the picture any baddie we bring in is going to be about as irrelevant as the F-32"


Unless they Bikelane the Granteed.

>>14554356
Why are we hyping Granteed up as this unstoppable rape machine that will obliterate everything by itself now?

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>>14554354
>Gu-Landon torpedoed any possible goodwill Earth had for their new neighbors by being a gigantic douche

Hey, he dealt with the Gadiswords for us, he's a pretty cool guy.

>>14554360
You mean when he murdered them all right when their crazies had all been dealt with and their survivors were more than happy to make peace with us?

>>14554359
It's literally the robotic avatar of a god now.

>>14554351
Yeah, i guess i should have worded better. I don't want to dwell into mech's lore vs feats in-game.

Granzon
>Can engage up to 65536 enemies at once, ok, BP. Largest number that can be expressed by 2 eight bits of data.

Though i can agree werkbau is a very good contender.

>>14554338
An addition to this. Which original do you think had the biggest improvement (gameplay wise) when it upgraded? Something like Dis Astranagant merely feels like Werkbau+ but Valhawk to Valguard to Valzacard is a huge upgrade because of the SP pool.

>>14554364
Most overpowered 16-bits console ever

>YFW Alegrias & Banpreios, 2 mechs with insane MAP weapons in Alpha 3 in the next OG
>Can wreck shit in Alpha 3 with these MAP weapons

>>14554363
So was Neo Granzon at one point, and they didn't piss themselves trying to get Shu to take an extended vacation.

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Did they do this just so they could show off

ON AN ALL NEW FANTASY MAIDEN WARS CHRISTMAS SPECIAL

>>14554364
Wasn't it originally just 65535? I always assumed throwing the extra digit on there would make Granzon's buffer overflow and implode.

>>14554365
IF Valzacard even gets 6 seishin pools

OG has been very stingy, battleship like Hagane don't even get 3 subpilots in MD despite the demotion

Excellence Rescue should have had 4 subpilots in OG2nd, nope

>>14554359
Because the Dracodeus is plot-wise arguably the strongest thing in OG at the moment.
Whereas before it was the Neo Granzon with Shu's typical attitude of toying around justifying him not nuking every threat the second he pops out of Masaki's asshole, Touya probably WOULD try to obliterate every baddie the second he shows up which isn't terribly good when trying to set up a threatening enemy.

Which is why the Granteed has been made conveniently absent for a portion of the next OG game.

Not saying this is a bad thing at all, it's just that someone said "Oh they won't temporarily write out the Valzacard at all because they don't care about the power levels" is just wrong.
Hell, we just got non-Rescue Excellences back after being conveniently absent from 2nd OGs.

>>14554352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11uIDn-TkW8

From one of the comments under the video
>(No seriously J Final Boss asks her of the Fury King Bloodline and she stares at Touya for a second before answering back)

They're really going to stuff Touya into Vorlent next game if he is not allow to use Granteed D.

>>14554369
They're probably going to nerf these bad (while still keeping Shu's, nobody is allowed to outshine him)

>>14554362
>and their survivors were more than happy to make peace with us?
Nonsense, don't fall for that propaganda.

>>14554378
Nah they'll give Shu the Shin Granzon, which outshines even the Dis Astranagant and Valzacard.

And then we'll get the Full Possessed Shin Granzon to kick Asakim in the dick.

>>14554373
I really wish they would just retire the Hagane and Hiryu already, on that note. Or at least upgrade them into something useful, now that the twin system is leaving them solidly in the dust.

>>14554382
Shrugs* Granzon is like expy of Zeorymer that wrecks any mech related to his show.

J and MX, jebus, I dont need to do anything complicated at all. Just plot events, stage end, move on. Life was easy and I kinda liked it.

I wouldn't be surprise if Shu gets another upgrade and then turn against everyone as a lvl99 secret EX hard boss in 3rd OG.

>>14554371
They like to show off. Hell, a few of the skill points are blatantly just "let us show off these fancy new animations we made," like the Aki Kick one and Marisa's upgrade stage.

>>14554373
4 is the cutoff points where one becomes invincible shitwrecker
There's no OG with four pilots or more that isn't top tier

>>14554402
Probably BP will allow us to switch our favourite ardygun family members around like J cast having puff girls did?

>>14554288
>not using Danmaku Power
It's like you don't want to surpass the stars with brute force Sahib.

>>14554286
You can get away with it in Mystic but don't even bother with it when the third game comes round. All of Marisa's properties gets reworked to shooting so they all come off her best stat.

>>14554402
Which OGs have 4 or more other than the 'card?

>>14554406
Nadesico did that in Impact too, back in the days when SRW was allergic to giving even non-OGs more than five pilots.

>>14554410
Off the top of my head it's really just Banpreios and Glitter Falsaber.

>>14554410
Banpreios and Glitter Falsaber is all I can of.

>>14554413
>>14554415
Failsaber*

>>14554410
Glitter Failsaber has Youta, Falsaber, Bruvictor, and Yuki.

If anything, Falsaber is more likely to get it trimmed down to three subpilots because most "two sentient robots transform into one" cases the combined form acts as a single pilot.
In fact, I can't think of a circumstance other than Glitter Falsaber where the two sentient robots that make up the combined form are counted as individual SP pools.

How many pilots did that OG ship in Z3 have, idly?

>>14554371
Time for best ghost waifu arc.

Incidentally I think the translation gets to shine here as the writing excels in this arc some stuff nobody would care about like the Aki sisters suddenly become more funnier than Rumia as joke characters.

>>14554422
Two.
Traia and AG

Also

Gadlight's final Seishin is Courage, funny enough.
A true Yuusha.

>>14554419
Glitter actually has both bots still sentient, while GGG's dragon bots merge into one or something. They can both talk and everything.

>>14554425
The courage to be a drunken space hobo and project your problems on unrelated people.

oh no

aww yes

>>14554419
Glitter Falsaber's spirit distribution is fucking insane, I don't think most people who haven't played BX even realize just how amazing their spirits were, they had redundancy for near every type of spirit and SP regen for all the pilots.

>All three SRX pilots have hotblood
In the last few stages of 2ndOG, I've taken to firing an armor down on the boss and then firing as many HTB cannons as I can in a single turn. Something about it makes it deliciously spammable.

>>14554436
And then it gets even worse on NG+ where the game outright lets you pick Youta's list

>>14554436
>2 different sources for Hotblood
>3 different sources for Accel
>Adaptation
>Daunt
>Awaken

And so-on

I don't think they fully understood what they were doing with this thing.

>>14554454
I think they knew exactly what they were doing.

So what was the deal with Mai in Alpha, again?
If I recall, she was just straight up a Balmarian named Levi who for some reason changed her name to Mai in Alpha 3 because that's what she did in OG?

>>14554454
More like the opposite.

They knew what they were doing and just wanted to break the game as hard as possible.

I mean look at the facts on top of that...

>Heavy armour/HP super
>Mech based SP and EN regen
>HP regen which recovers half of the incoming damage NOT final damage meaning you can recover more health than you lose

It's like they didn't want this thing to have a weakness in any form. The only weakness if you can even call it that is that it has a fairly low max MP which isn't s big deal when you have regen.

It's weaker offensively by a tiny bit than Odyssea was in UX I guess.

>>14554460
No Levi was a brainwashed Mai.

After OG1 White Star was trying to revive Levi by kinda regrowing her. They stopped it around mid way from when she has all of her memories of Mai and a few repressed memories and emotions of Levi.

>>14554457
>BX
>Forethought

Let me just hand you the strongest attacks in the first quarter of the game.
And give you a +10 Will MAPW so you can use those 130 Will attacks by the second turn at the least.

>>14554460
Yep, she switched sides then changed her name in Alpha 3 for reasons.

Excluding the Valzacard, what's the strongest OG plot-wise.
Assuming we don't get something retarded like Ultra Granzon next game.

>>14554464
Ah fuck I misread that shit. I thought you were talking about Mai from OG.

I need coffee badly.

>>14554470
BRBRBRBR WEEEOW and Hibiki.

>>14554462
>recovers half of the incoming damage
Isn't it just a flat 2000 every time?

>>14554465
Like I said

They knew what they were doing.

Fuck Balance.

Let the Solomon Engine of your soul blaze beautifully, Anonymous.

>>14554465
Let's not forget Grandpa Genocide.

>Not one, not two, but THREE max damage attacks
>Let's make one of them a radial MAPW for the hell of it too

>>14554462
Falsaber doesn't use MP.

And Glitter Falsaber is stronger than Odyssea

End of Rebith is only 8900 while Glitter's finisher is 9800.
They've got the same amount of HP
Glitter has more EN
Glitter has more Armor
They've got the same Mobility and the same Targeting (or whatever that stat was called)
Glitter has As across the board
Finisher is only 130 Will (Odyssea's is 140)

Glitter Falsaber is an affront to the notion of balance in a series where balance is already a laughable term.

>>14554473
It's recovery is based on Will. Maxes at 1/4 recovery at 150 Will.

>>14554462
>They knew what they were doing and just wanted to break the game as hard as possible.

This isn't a good thing.

>>14554487
>Its not good when you have a thing be fucking broken to all hell in your favor

Its like you hate fun.

>>14554475
Grandpa Genocide stronger than Demonbane

>>14554494
>One of four selection of enemies every stage
>Stages that don't have the exact same set-up as the rest are in a gross minority
>Also, let's make sure that you can just one shot literally everything that isn't a boss
>And then lug them to the inevitable reinforcements
>btw here's two OP maps just in case you want to trivialize things even more

I'm used to SRW being borked at this point, but BX doesn't even try.

Abandon all hope for fun ye who enter here

>>14554499
So? I find more fun in destroying things.

>>14554494
There's nothing fun about running in the same units into the same crowd of enemies and oneshotting them all in the Enemy Phase for 40+ stages

I think I'm gonna do an SRW W no upgrade+destroyed units stay dead run.
That seems like it'd be a nice way to mix it up a bit.

>>14554506
How much did you love J?

>>14554494
>Press A to win
>Fun

>>14554508
Make it bazaar units only, too

>>14554323
Valzacard plot is easy, They literally wrote it out at the end of W anyway with all the Database crew leaving you. at the end of W plot it will just be Valguard and co for awhile untill we hit something serious enough to warrant the use of a Machine that can use all 3 side of the Solomon triangle.

>>14554512
Only when I have Granteed and skip all of the story? Yeah I don't mind J.

Haven't played Moon dwellers yet, is the Raftclanz Aurun a permanent unit?

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I'm not sure why Keine got the remix that features nods to the Branstein brothers, when a character like Letty exists.

At the very least, her theme should be an ICE MAN arrange.

MY ARTIFICIAL HAT ACHES.

>>14553686
jojofags seem to think everything is a jojo refernce for some thing. jojo fans really are the hipster version of whatever flavor of the month anime is currently airing.

They worked together tons of times. Jojo is just another role.

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>8 days for MD Eng release

>>14554536
なんと言葉・・・

>>14554470
>>14554472
Yeah, from a pure fluff perspective it's probably the Z3 guys.

>>14554532
Are those FOE?

>>14554470
Banpreios since it's the mascot's evolution

>>14554532
But Letty is a Cool Lady.

>>14554494
>>14554506
I can't imagine being so autistic that sitting around 1 shotting everything in the game over and over for ~50 stages with hardly any thought aside from selecting the same overpowered units could be considered "fun".

>>14554549
I would not have spotted that had you not informed me of it.

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>>14554536
I can hardly contain myself.

>>14554535
>jojo fans really are the hipster version of whatever flavor of the month anime is currently airing.
Jojofags=/=Jojo fans.
I've been reading Jojo since I was nine and I sure don't go spewing around that kind of shit.
As usual, the anime became a honeypot for newfags, tumblrfags and redditors.

>>14554561
This so fucking hard.

>>14554560
Is that dialogue supposed to be accurate or not?

>finally beat XN-L on EX-hard
>forgot to use armor breaker

Literally everytime I beat a boss in OG I realize it would've been quicker.

>>14554569
eh... uhhh waht?

>>14554566
Don't remember what was actually said, but the subs were shit in general.

>>14554569
GET IN THE FUCKING KAIJU SHINJI

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I don't think that' a bad traded off considering she rarely gets hit and when she usually does she'll end up getting killed.

>>14554569
I swear to god if Godzilla flops Anno will have to kill himself after this shameless commercial campaign.

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>>14554584

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>>14554591
No way it's going to flop, check out the crowds on opening day!

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>>14553875
Enjoy, you will never see 00 S1 in SRW again

>>14554598
me on the right

>>14554603
Get me some popcorn while you're there.

And a Junior Mint.

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>>14554598
You're not kidding me are you?
Is Anno literally on suicide watch or something?

>>14554609
No you're getting a White Knight and you're going to fucking like it

>>14554615
>White Knight
I like those, too.

>>14554598
i-its ok guys, its not the premiere event yet!

>>14554620
What about a Peppermint Patty?

>>14554598
Is that TE?

>>14554629
I don't see any tall black man there

>>14554622
Wasn't the premiere event yesterday?

>>14554631
We're not talking about Onsokumaru though

>>14554636
>onso
>in japan
Wut

>>14554625
Also delightful.

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>>14554596
wat the fuck

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>>14554644

>>14554644
>those unshaven arms
キモイ

THE TAIL IS MADE OF DEAD PEOPLE

>>14554654
Godzilla's tail..................
...............................................is people

godzilla's tail is people

GODZILLA'S TAIL IS PEEEOOOPPPLLLLEEEE

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>>14554644
Anno once again confirms being the one and only literal hack in the industry.

>Muh Gojira
>Muh fan knowledge
>Muh Otaku culture

And this, children, is why you DON'T make fans of something work on the franchise.

>>14554644
Strike Freedom!?

>>14554679
Solid b8 to be honest.

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Shin Godzilla is fine and way better than the average Godzilla film.

>>14554685
H-hey TE can I give you fellatio?

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>>14554685
The design in this one is really badass.

>>14554665
Whoa.... that's like.... so deep....

I think it represents humanity's struggle to live on and the hardship of dealing with ourselves.... Anno did it again you guys.... holy shit.....

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>>14554685
>Shin Godzilla is fine
>Anno plastering his name and Eva all over the movie is fine
>Literally has EVA's Decisive Battle in it for LE EPIK AUTOREFERENCE

I bet you're coming up with The Master's cuts and direction being beautiful or something next.

>>14554708
>>14554720
I found Shin Godzilla to be intermittently interesting. Anno forsakes his granite stoicism for once, and as a result the film projects essentially simple, muscular melodrama a good deal more effectively than it does the potential of man's seemingly witless destruction of the Earth's resources. Anno's direction stresses action, not nuances of meaning or characterization. Anno is pitiably natural as the realistic, sensitive oldster facing the futility of living in dying surroundings. But Higuchi is simply a rough cop chasing standard bad guys. Their 21st-century Godzilla occasionally is frightening but it is rarely convincingly real.

>>14554724
コピペ乙

>>14554418
Fáilsaber*

>>14554747
Ashsaber*

>>14554454
And Rouse so you can super easily combine the damn thing on Turn 1 even without Mic

>>14554750
Ashcleef*

>>14554599
It will come back one day.

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Oh man, can Evangelion do anything original?