Is this the most overrated anime of all time? I liked it the

Gintama is.

>>14547731
>tokushit
There's your problem. Stick to your generals please.

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>>14547731
Some people just have better taste than you, man.

It is what it is.

>hype alone will ensure all of LoGH gets translated
>meanwhile Unbroken Arrow Yukikaze continues to have no translation prospects

If this isn't a failure of democracy, then what is?

>>14547775
LOGH's writing isn't very good though.

>>14547794
Point me to a /m/ show with better writing.

>>14547814
Tetsujin remake

>>14547848
You fail

>>14547883
except i'm not. every scene in logh is delivered straight, and sometimes pretty badly too.

remember when kircheis died? that was literally one of the worst death scenes i had the displeasure of watching. it's such a shit adaptation you wonder if the upcoming one can do justice to the source material, or the source material was always this lazily written (like most japanese writers)

>>14547890
No you really do fail at life. Go get one.

LoGH has been unavailable in English for decades, but given the poor quality of this new translation, it's hard to say whether that was truly a bad thing. Huddleston's prose is so slavishly devoted to Tanaka's original Japanese text that the path towards the meat of the book quickly becomes a slog. It's easy to lose interest long before the action picks up (no thanks to the unnecessary, lengthy prologue, absent in the anime), and it doesn't help that Tanaka's nearly 35-year-old plot has aged rather poorly; with its overwhelmingly male-dominated story and shallow female characters. It's really hard to find a place for this series amongst the west's more nuanced SF.

>>14547814
Aquarion Logos can't be beat in the writing department

>>14547904
>tfw LoGH will never be as nuanced and PC as Ready Player One
just fuck my SF up family

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OP, try pulling any of that on ANN, you'll be more successful regardless of intent.

>>14547913
Name of the classified show?

>>14547913
made me kek

>>14547731
Is OP the biggest faggot of all time?

>>14547927
irrelevent, I just wanted to show what goes on behind the scenes, I'm protecting the identities to keep it relatable to the reader.

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>>14547731
Well re-watching a 120 episode show isn't something that's easy.

Dedicated months of my life to this.

Overrated? Nah it was one hell of an experience.

>Job Trunicht 2016

>>14547960
I thought the post was a joke but if you've actually argued with the mods by nitpicking every sentence then you deserved it. Why you would post there in the first place is a mystery to me.

>>14547913
I thought MAL was bad...

untill I discovered ANN.

Why does anime have such shitty fansites?

>>14547980
>if you've actually argued with the mods by nitpicking every sentence
I didn't, they're just over sensitive when you point out holes in their statements.
>Why you would post there in the first place is a mystery to me.
I thought it'd be nice.

>>14547731
>Is this the most overrated anime of all time?
Hardly, Jojo is stil a thing.

>I liked it the first time, but I have no intention of rewatching it.
That's not really an indicator of it being bad and not even that you didn't like it. Specially if you just finished it which I hope isnt the case.

>Yet here I am, as LOGH didn't turn me into an unconditional Space Opera fan.
I'd like to say it did for me but I havent bothered with SO so far since I have other stuff on my backlog(including tokushit), but that's not really an indicator of it being bad.

I do agree that it may be held to high standards though, and, aside from whether it trully deserves it, that can make one focus more on the flaws than in the positive traits, it happens. That's why I never try to say how good anything I consider to be perfect or at least 8/10 is. It sucks, but it's how it is.

>>14547994
>meant to say holes and inaccuracies

>>14547904
OP meant the anime, not the novels.

>t has aged rather poorly
>art ages
nice meme

>>14547913
So what I gather is that
-you used a thread made to mention what you are watching to discuss shows instead of the thread made for that.
-you actually argue instead of being all hugs

Without looking at the posts you're probably right on the second point(I've seen similar shit with reddit and these kind of forums tend to be echochamber), but why is the first one not a legitimate complaint?

>>14548002
>LoGH
>"""""art""""

>>14548020
shhh you'll ruin the narrative if you ask too many questions.

>>14548020
>why is the first one not a legitimate complaint?
Necroposting is a big no no there, higher chances of whining/someone going "did this need revival?"

>>14547814
/m/ shows with good writing are indeed rare. Patlabor and Gankutsuou on the top of my head might qualify. First Gundam is okay.

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>>14548038
>Patlabor

>>14548030
>anime and literature
>not art

>>14548036
Yeah, makes sense. Should tell that to the mod.

>>14548036
In other words post in the board frequently used breaking a norm nobody ever brings up versus reviving a topic and if you don't throw enough sentences in your post you can guarantee complaining in some form if not outright mod punishment.

>>14548042
>Should tell that to the mod.
Saying a series is not improving counts as "soapboxing", posting in a thread that has been inactive long enough to set off the "last reply happened exactly x months/weeks/days ago" message will give you no ground for defense.

>>14547731
I can't wait to see the SJW shit on it because all but two (arguably three) women do jack and shit in the whole show.

I wonder if ANN staff finds big words insulting.

One of the only mecha animes where the characters feel like actual human beings.

>>14547904
I don't want my sci-fi to be retardedly PC. I'm looking at you star wars and star trek which have gone the way of faggotry.

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>>14547731

>>14547766
Not it's not. Not by a long mark. I get really upset when people say this because it just shows ignorance.
Overrated is when something is said by the masses to be better than it really is. Something is overrated when it looks like everyone says it's good.
The masses haven't so much as seen Gintama, less praise it. Hell, most people on MAL hate the fact that it's ranked that high.
The reason it's on the top spots on only ONE of MAL's ranking criteria and not on other sites is because of the algorithm MAL uses. The majority of users on MAL have not seen it. The ones who have just rated it incredibly high. Look at it from any metric except that one, and it's far from being popular or having any semblance of general acclaim.

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>>14547904

>>14547890
>>14548041
>>14547904
You losers should go read Ready Player One, that trash is more up your alley.

>>14548565
>Overrated is when something is said by the masses to be better than it really is. Something is overrated when it looks like everyone says it's good.

Honestly "overrated" to me has always just been code for "I don't like it as much as these people and I think they're wrong!"

>>14547998
>Hardly, Jojo is stil a thing.

Please. JoJo has been around long enough to earn its popularity. Just because it has an anime now doesn't change that it's had a consistent fanbase in Japan since the 80s when it started.

>>14548038

I had actually forgotten that Gankutsuou had mechs.

That's kinda cheating though, it's just The Count of Monte Cristo (my favorite novel) but from the perspective of a side character in the book.

>>14547904

I'm amazed at how many people don't know this is pasta.

>>14548079
I have trouble remembering any women BESIDES the ones that actually do something.

I guess there's Julian's smokin hot girlfriend.

>>14547731

I watched it once up until the blue haired guy died back when the subs was still ongoing. It was good for one time only , as the series didnt have replay value imho.

It strikes me more as a political commentary anime than the actual "mecha anime" , not that it is s bad thing, but it is not my cup of tea either.

Feels like watching documentary instead of anime.

>>14547814
Patlabor and Ghost in the Shell. That was too easy.

>>14547899
He is right though. Kircheis died in the lamest, most preventable way imaginable. And then we get dozens of episodes of whining about his death, even though it was the result of crass incompetence.

My point is that LOGH isn't better than any /m/ favourites.

LOGH only stands out because of its sheer scale.

People who hold it to 10/10 standards are retarded and dumb.

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>>14549143
Not as retarded or dumb as you, at least.

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>>14549143

Where are the fucking robots?

>>14549220
Didn't figure out how to build them yet.

But they show up in episode 111.

>>14549220
LoGH has cyborgs , spaceships and space fights.
/m/ enough for me.

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>>14547731
It has great political commentary, great character writing, great visual direction, and an intriguing plot.
It's the best at what it does and it's not particularly popular outside of 4chan.
Fuck no it isn't overrated.
Gundam is what's fucking overrated.

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>>14547998
>Hardly, Jojo is stil a thing.

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>>14549502
>great political commentary
'enlightened dictator v corrupt and decaying democracy' isn't the most inspired or insightful stuff. I was disappointed at how little was made of Reinhard's coup. His faction were very clearly the 'good guys' in all of what should have been a hard situation. Even with the 200 000 or whatever I think Oberstein resolved that too neatly for it to matter much. Really I think Oberstein made everything involving Reinhard too simple because his whole regime works because he has an autistic superman behind the scenes handling everything remotely complex. You could say that this is a commentary on the nature of the kind of regime Reinhard was building but I think his presence robs Reinhard's rise to power of its depth. They do a half-assed job of questioning if his hands are truly clean every now and then but he doesn't really seem to deal with many tough issues at all considering that he sets out to conquer the entire galaxy.

>great character writing
The ten or so characters that actually have enough depth to be considered characters are okay, but everyone feels too one note for my liking. Most characters feel like cardboard cutouts for Yang and Reinhard to bounce off of most of the time for all the bearing that their actual character has on what's going on. Reinhard, Kircheis and Annerose I think where well realized characters. Beyond them nobody really sticks out in my mind. Even Yang doesn't have much going on beyond being smart, affable and having a boner for democracy.

>great visual direction
I really like the ship designs and uniforms but that's about it. They looked practical but also had their own styles and traits to them that made them feel thought out and as though they belonged in LoGH.

Characters and backgrounds feel like something out of a straight-edge, washed out Shojo. Not ugly, I even kind of like the aesthetic, but there's not much in the way of style to appreciate which is a shame.

>>14549599
PHG pls go

>>14549624
Who's PHG?

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>>14549636
pic related

>>14549637
Going to need some further elaboration here.

>it's a "rabid LoGH fans get trolled way too easily" episode

Ok though if you really want to talk overrated, Majestic Prince is blown way out of proportion around these parts.

Every battle in LoGH ever

Reinhard
> for this battle we'll use a 'spinning reich vortex' formation which will be sure to randomly defeat all of the admirals in the rebel fleet, despite our number disadvantage! We can't fail.

Yang
> yade yade, Prince Lohengram is using a spinning reich vortex fleet deployment method, quite daring, I would have done the same in his position
> Frederica, get all the arrows up on the screen real quick, our allies have almost certainly been defeated already so I'll have to come up with something ingenious
>... *deep thinking*
> alright, what we have to do is pretzel the enemy forces between three bullshit fleets I just pulled out of my ass, as soon as we tie them up with these decoys we can deploy our main fleet directly into their mid ranks, crushing them instantly
> Yulia, get those arrows up on the screen again to demonstrate

Reinhard
> Fuck, I've been defeated...
> Miracle Yaaaaaaaang

>>14549136
>even though it was the result of crass incompetence.

Yeah. His successes got to his head and Reinhard fucked up. He fucks up. That was a major part of his character and illiterates like you like to pretend both he and Yang were le perfect Mary Sues.

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>>14549636
Pretty much the best

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>>14550267
of the worst

>>14550281
Shame, otherwise we'd get to melt PHG in a jar of acetone or something.

>>14547731
I don't think it's overrated, it just has a passionate and outspoken niche fanbase. However I personally find it insulting that some would claim a show with practically no animation to be the best anime of all time.

>>14550353
It has perfectly good animation.

animation =/= action scenes

I will just assume it's overrated because of how the LoGH fans act.

>>14550353
Retard

>>14550037
I'm not talking about your fan fiction, I'm talking about the anime. At no point is his death portrayed as caused by overconfidence. It was just the almighty hand of the plot making everyone involved stupider. Kinda like how in order to make Yang and Reinhard appear competent, they just made every other character incompetent instead.

LOGH has some pretty shoddy writing in parts.

>>14549502
>it's not particularly popular outside of 4chan.
It's one of the best rated shows on MAL and ANN.

>>14550379
Don't act the fool.

Animation == animation.
Still frames =/= animation.

>>14547731
>Is this the most overrated anime of all time?
No evangelion is

>>14549073
they are idiots

>>14550590
>still frames
are exceedingly rare in LOGH

>>14547786
>hype alone
We sure on that? It's been getting releases, but it doesn't seem like it's generating the same strong word of mouth that, say, The Origin got whenever a new volume hit.

In fact, what threads we've had for the books on here seem to be only some general praise and then a lot of bitching about either issues with the translation or that one review from the first book that someone's trying to turn into a copypasta.

As of last check, anything past book 3 is still a giant '?'

>>14549074
Yeah but even she is a good pilot

There aren't many women in the show but all the ones there are are fairly well developed I'd say

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>LoGH is overrated thread
>Destiny isn't -that- bad you guys thread
>both on front page

This is why /m/ is such a shit hole. Rampant shitposting and people falling for it.

>>14550698
It has a marketing push, the signs all point towards them getting the main series out the door.

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>>14549074
It's not Japanese anime without a cute girl.

>>14548319
>Star Trek
Dude, Star Trek didn't go that way, it's always been varying degrees of.

You only think it didn't because the older stuff was aiming at a different set of goalposts than nowadays.

>>14550577
>at no point is it overconfidence
No, you're right. It instead is the result of oberstein trying to make sure reinhard doesn't alienate everyone by giving kircheis special privileges. And then he dies because he didn't have a gun on obersteins orders.

And by the end of the series everyone hates oberstein because of it, oberstein has to question himself, and generally a lot of bad shit happens

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Couldn't even finish LotGH and to this day. I still think it's some sort of weird running joke that everyone likes it. Lots of 2deep4u lines that they spit out instead of having real conversations and over 100 characters introduced per episode as the plot. I love 80s anime, but this is the one I cringe the most at when people mention it. Pic related, it's a deep quote about the universe.

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>>14550353
Galactic Heroes is more "animation" than the new Berserk show.

I notice that a lot of people don't know what anime used to look like before render farms took over.

>>14549680
>Reinhard
>> Fuck, I technically won, but still act like my ass just got handed to me because it wasn't FRAWRESS BICTOLY!
>> Miracle Yaaaaaaaang

Fixed for accuracy

>>14550749
>it's only animation if I like it

Personally just finished it about a month ago now and I loved it. This king about picking up the books and hoping the 2017 adaption will be good too.

Probably gonna rewatch it some time in the future as well. But to each their own.

>>14549680
>no semicircles

not even trying

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>>14550750

I just finished volume 1 of the books and I forgot how buttflustered he was that even though he won, the didn't win 100% and Wittenfeld got his forces crippled

>Excellency, are you angry right now?
>What of it if I am!
>What I'm asking you is this: what is it that has you do angry?

I forgot that that's what this line was from, Reinhard WINNING.

>>14550832
>do angry
so angry*

>>14550832
As much as I like him, Reinhard really did get too butt mad if his victory wasn't 100% flawless.

>>14549131
but GitS is awful.

>>14550712
I think it's a much better shithole than the other shitholes on 4chan, for a given shittiness of a shithole, mind you.

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>>14551267
DELET THIS

>>14551267
No, but your mum was an awful lay. Tell her I want my money back.

>>14548319
Did someone drop you? How are you this fuckin retarded

>>14550590
I can't think of a single atrociously animated scene in LoGH, whether it be due to lack of detail, still frames, or weird proportions.

It's certainly not perfect animation wise, but it never even comes close to middling, let alone bad.

>>14551692
You have shockingly low standards then.

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>>14547731
>Space Opera

Holy shit it's the old /toy/ shitposter
Leave and never come back, Getter discussion here is ruined because of you

>>14550590
>>14551718
You are absolutely ignorant of what anime is

>>14549065
>JoJo has been around long enough to earn its popularity.
Longevity!=quality anon
And how old do you think LOGH is anyways? Wikipedia says it started in 82 and ended in 87, before jojo even began.

> Just because it has an anime now doesn't change that it's had a consistent fanbase in Japan since the 80s when it started.
I know, and it has been overrated ever since.

>>14548565
>Overrated is when something is said by the masses to be better than it really is.
Yes.

>Something is overrated when it looks like everyone says it's good.
No, how did you get it wrong here? It's overrated if everyone says it's good but it's not AS good as people say(regardless of whether it's actually good or utter shit). Your previous sentences got it right.

>>14549680
>Reinhard
>number disadvantage
You only watched the first few episodes didn't you?

I do agree that the battles are repetitive, but Reinhard having number disadvantage is not a pattern at all.

>>14551868
>watch something
>don't like it
>go online
>only see people saying good things about it, no one says any of the negative things you felt about it
>"Wow this appears to be so overrated"

Not that hard to understand, buddy. The opposite also applies - there are significant amounts of people that will watch something and think /m/ hates it because they've seen a few negative threads about it.
Dig past the trolls and you'll see genuine criticism and discourse about a lot of shows, positive and negative.

>>14551891
You aren't taking into account whether the show is as good as people claim there tho.

>>14551863
>Longevity!=quality anon

I never said that, but to me it's had consistent quality and that's a big factor to it lasting as long as it has.

>And how old do you think LOGH is anyways? Wikipedia says it started in 82 and ended in 87, before jojo even began.

Honestly I always thought it started in the late 70s, not the early 80s. The writing was more 70s to me.

>I know, and it has been overrated ever since.

I disagree, it's always been really good to me outside of part 5, which I genuinely don't know why they like it so much.

>>14551891

The flaw with this statement is if you use overrated by that measure, it completely ignores the possibilty that something may in fact actually be genuinely good, and you just don't like it.

>>14547731
>Is this the most overrated anime of all time?
You're on a board that mostly talks about Gundam though. LoGH is often praised beyond what it actually accomplishes but if I would call any mecha anime is overrated it would be Gundam. I say this as someone who really fucking likes Gundam, you'll be hard pressed to find a franchise that's consistently lauded as deeper than it actually is than the absolute shitshow that is Gundam and it's politics. Evafags come pretty god damn close though but they only have one show and a few movies.

All Gundam needs is a shallowly written character forced into a poorly contrived situation to make a magnanimous speech with some orchestral music blaring behind them and you have a recipe the average anime fan will eat up every time without fail.

I like Gundam because it's expansive but in the same way the Star Wars franchise is expansive, which also means I have a wide variety of mediocre material to pick through for the elements that I actually am squarely invested in and keep reading/watching for.

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>>14551267
We've been hacked.

>>14552165
>but to me it's had consistent quality
>consistent
Yes, consistently decent at best. It's only on part 7 where it actually attempts to be more than stand of the week trite.

> that's a big factor to it lasting as long as it has.
Or because it sells. I doubt Araki still makes it just because an anon liked it.

>Honestly I always thought it started in the late 70s, not the early 80s. The writing was more 70s to me.
Both periods that are older than jojo, yeah.

>I disagree, it's always been really good to me outside of part 5, which I genuinely don't know why they like it so much.
>He doesnt think jojo is overrated
>he thinks people like part 5 that much
You clearly haven't been on a jojo discussion the Internet since....pretty much ever. An aspull like part 3's ending wouldn't be forgiven on any other shonen manga, but in JoJo it gets a pass because LE FUNNY MEME FIGHT XD.

>>14552781
To be fair part 1 & 2 are worth reading for HAMON shit, 3 is worth it to get to 4, and 5 & 6 are worth it to get to 7. Plus memes in between.

>>14552806
Exactly, it's not THAT good.

The show is good but does have some minor flaws, however I think it is my highest rated anime of all time.

Also don't try to marathon this show or else you will start glazing over callbacks and other subtle things that tie in later to the series.

>>14549065
Sure man. But ever since the Anime. We have bad JoJo fans who likes it because of FABULOUS alone instead of FABULOUS and actually weird and unique shounen manga.

>>14552781
>An aspull like part 3's ending wouldn't be forgiven on any other shonen manga

Man I fucking love JoJo, but I wish that they didn't pull that shit out. Would have been way more interesting to watch Jotaro come up with a neat ingenous way to counter the time stop.

>>14552781
>It's only on part 7 where it actually attempts to be more than stand of the week trite.

Why is it trite? It's a formula that works.

>Or because it sells.

Actually it didn't. It consistently sold terribly for over a decade and coasted basically purely on the fact that Weekly Jump really liked it and didn't want to get rid of it. Not to mention Japan HATED Part 4 and 6 when it first ran.

>He doesnt think jojo is overrated

No because I think it deserves the popularity it has.

>he thinks people like part 5 that much

It's 2nd behind part 3 in popularity in Japan, always has been

>An aspull like part 3's ending wouldn't be forgiven on any other shonen manga

What asspull? He already showed Star Platinum could stop time in the poker match against D'arby, he just wasn't aware he was doing it. Star Platinum isn't fast enough to do all that shit, it has to stop time.

The ambulance was more of an asspull than Star Platinum stopping time. Requiem is a WAY bigger asspull than Star Platinum stopping time. Emporio being compatible with Weather Report was more of an asspull than Star Platinum stopping time. Lucy appearing with Alternate Diego's head was a bigger asspull than Star Platinum stopping time. In fact other than the volcano which Joseph as least KINDA planned, Jotaro's win was one of the few where if you went back and re-read earlier chapters you could see hints towards.

>>14554125
>Why is it trite? It's a formula that works.
Because it's not a real plot development, just beat stand after stand with barely ever losing, nothing else happens. It works because people like it, not because it's good.

>Actually it didn't. It consistently sold terribly for over a decade and coasted basically purely on the fact that Weekly Jump really liked it and didn't want to get rid of it.
Oh, yes, it kept going on for 20 years because good guy weekly jump liked it.

>It's 2nd behind part 3 in popularity in Japan, always has been
I don't see it, but ok. In the West, it's clearly parts 2 and 3 the most popular.

>Star Platinum isn't fast enough to do all that shit, it has to stop time.
If you need headcanon to explain it, chances are it's an asspull.

>The ambulance was more of an asspull than Star Platinum stopping time. Requiem is a WAY bigger asspull than Star Platinum stopping time. Emporio being compatible with Weather Report was more of an asspull than Star Platinum stopping time. Lucy appearing with Alternate Diego's head was a bigger asspull than Star Platinum stopping time
I never said it was the only one though, but it's the most popular and, again, something that would not be forgiven on other shonen manga.

>>14554086
I guess they needed a way to introduce Jotaro's own time stop since it's pretty important in part 4.

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>>14547913
>suckered into another debate with you like in the past where you try and nitpick every single sentence
kek, he completely has you nailed. why the fuck is anyone defending this autist? and then in the same breath turning around and criticizing hugboxes. His "annotations" are completely retarded, the mod had no reason to "define" every single one of his points with explicit detail when it's clearly obvious from the context

i.e. why the fuck would he need to cite specific examples of there existing a variety of opinions outside the "what are you watching now" thread? Why would he have to define "an ability to listen to other people's opinions?" And the first annotation is plainly wrong, he explicitly stated "what the other thread is for" in the previous sentence: discuss shows in episode by episode or more in depth.

This guy is clearly just another petty autist with some pointless agenda and that obnoxious, attrition based style of "argument" that refuses to sincerely engage in any concrete discussion. Why would anyone complain when the mods strike the banhammer down on him?

In a LOGH thread of all places, I shouldn't have to say authoritarianism has its place.

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>>14548565
Overrated is relative to the context. A show might be overrated in one community and unknown in another. It has nothing to do with mainstream popularity. Pointing outside the relevant context and saying, look! it's not actually overrated! no one's even heard of it! is very disingenuous.

In many circles, Gintama is unknown. But there's a large share where Gintama is widely known and appreciated. In many, it's presented as a masterpiece, and one of the greatest anime - look! it's such an indisputable god tier anime, I can use it as an example of better writing (and direction, animation, anything really) for a classic very well respected for its writing without hesitating or even providing any defense. But take a step outside the hugbox, wait for the hype die down, come to your senses and the collective opinion starts to realize it really isn't nearly as good as it once looked: it's overrated.

>>14549061
Consider allocating more mental resources towards critical thinking.

>>14547731
Name five better /m/-related series.

>>14554299
How is LOGH /m/ related? Spaceships count?

>>14554424
Spaceships have been considered /m/ for a long time. It's why we have Star Trek, Homeworld, Harlock and Space Battleship Yamato, etc. threads on here.

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Yup.

/m/ will ALWAYS be the easiest board to troll on this website.

>>14554624
And the occasional NASA thread. Six Rover Combination Curiosity was fucking great.

>>14554424
Spaceships count and space operas have a lot of overlap with /m/ content anyway.

>>14554254
>Consider allocating more mental resources towards critical thinking.

Why, It's just anime. And again, most people who say overrated don't care about critical thinking or anything like that, they just don't like that something is as popular as it is because THEY don't personally like it. It's a fancy way of saying "stop liking what I don't like!"

>>14554170
>Because it's not a real plot development

Except that only really applies to part 3. Even in part 4 right after, the fights generally have impact beyond "they worked for the bad guy" like they did with Dio. Ratt showed that Josuke can handle situations that Jotaro can't. Highway Star introduced the danger of remote stands. Both of Koichi's initial fights improved him as a person. The only completely superfluous fight is Super Fly.

>Oh, yes, it kept going on for 20 years because good guy weekly jump liked it.

It had giant sale spikes during parts 3 and 5, but besides that never sold its tankouban well.

>I don't see it, but ok. In the West, it's clearly parts 2 and 3 the most popular.

You haven't been around Japanese fans. And I would argue the most popular in the west are 2, 4, and 7.

>If you need headcanon to explain it, chances are it's an asspull.

That's supported by what happens.

>I never said it was the only one though, but it's the most popular and, again, something that would not be forgiven on other shonen manga.

You either don't read that many actual shonen manga, or you are really bothered by something that was sufficiently set up if not because of D'arby, then because of the fact that Jotaro was the ONLY stand that time stop didn't fully work on and Dio outright said their stands are very similar.

It's fine to not like Jotaro, he's a hero type that isn't made anymore (the silent badass stoic that just beats everyone without their expression changing) for kind of a good reason: they're sorta boring. But I don't ignore details it sets up.

>>14555565
> Even in part 4 right after, the fights generally have impact beyond "they worked for the bad guy" like they did with Dio.
That's true, but they still don't mean plot development.

>Ratt showed that Josuke can handle situations that Jotaro can't.
Not really a development. Specially if Jotaro does a lot of the work.

>Highway Star introduced the danger of remote stands.
Yes, it introduced a contradiction with the already messy stand "lore".
Koichi's bit is true at least.

>You haven't been around Japanese fans.
I've been around western fans. You know, the ones that post on 4chan which is also the site we're arguing this.

>the the most popular in the west are 2, 4, and 7.
>not 3
You haven't been around western fans.

>That's supported by what happens.
Sure bud. Your headcanon that's only supported by you totally happened.
And that's aside form the fact a databook made it even more of an asspull than it already was.

>You either don't read that many actual shonen manga
I do, you either only read jojo or let memes define your opinion. Sadly, it's probably the later.

>Jotaro was the ONLY stand that time stop didn't fully work on and Dio outright said their stands are very similar.
Revealed on the very fight with Dio. You really don't know how writing works. You're supposed to set up something that big before it's relevant in order for it to not to be an asspull and specially considering it's the final fight of the part. Doing so on DÁrby's fight, even if it did happen, would not be enough.
And, again, it would only makes sense if there was a reason for Jotaro and Dio's stands to have the same power which a databook proved is not the case since TheWorld is Dio's stand, not Johnathan's.
>It's fine to not like Jotaro, he's a hero type that isn't made anymore
Bland characters are still a thing anon. Check Ichigo from Bleach for example.
>But I don't ignore details it sets up.
No, you make them up because they arent set up.

quick, what's the brand of ice cream marika buys?

>>14554219
>my mouth talks with dialogue
Wow that was incoherent rambling you just typed

>>14554219
>His "annotations" are completely retarded
only to the anti-intellectuals and facists
> the mod had no reason to "define" every single one of his points with explicit detail
other than to display proof

>>14554219
>Why would anyone complain when the mods strike the banhammer down on him?
Superior question, why do you care? Do you support Trump by any chance?

>>14554219
>This guy is clearly just another petty autist with some pointless agenda and that obnoxious
Prove it
> why the fuck is anyone defending this autist?
The annotator is the smart one.

>>14554219
>Why would anyone complain when the mods strike the banhammer down on him?
The same reason people complain about what happened with the Cleveland Police: Don't question it and it will keep happening.

>>14554219
>ITT why Democrats need to replace every Republican in power
Go back to /pol/, I'll be voting for Hilary for you.

>>14554219
>using UC Gundam when AUs are usually better

>>14554219
>calling intellectualism autistic
Only on......... Actually most of the world.

>>14554219
>Camille
>autism
Sure COMMA anon COMMA sure PERIOD

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Wow, not even hiding the samefagging huh?

>>14554219
Still a more tolerable character than Tomoko from Watamote.

>>14554219
Sounds like a salty mod tearing up he got called out.

>>14561707
Cool mouth, does it talk with dialogue? Probably a cherry ice cream mouth.
>>14554219
>"I'm going to bring attention to this!"
You got it!

>>14554219
>all this blue
Psh, red is the best primary color for being manly while yellow is for girly men and blue is just pathetic that can't pick a side.

>>14554219
You need to act soft and cuddly like mashed potatoes. Also the annotator has points while you just whine and cry over nothin', pally.

>>14555565
All it's "codeword" for is "the consensus for this show places it at a higher quality than I believe is accurate." Just because you might disagree with the poster or have spotted a few misuses (where they're discussing their personal opinion of the show itself, and not their opinion of the general consensus the show deserves) doesn't mean that meaning isn't still well understood.

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wew

>>14554219
That is some low grade criticism over something intelligent.

>>14554219
>In a LOGH thread of all places, I shouldn't have to say authoritarianism has its place.
Never saw it, what's it like?

>>14554219
Destiny was superior to Zeta, now get over it.

>>14554219
>needing a helmet and not altering your body so you can flip off the notion of breathing
Bro do you even /m/an?

>>14554219
>annotator comes up with solid points
>sides with the abusive thin skinned mod
Lay off the salt foods for a while

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>>14561769
I'm sorry, I took a second look at the post and I admit you were right. My bad, anon.

>>14554219
So does Camille have one long tooth for his upper jaw or did the animators not bother drawing teeth?

>ITT faggot has the time of his life Samefagging.

>>14561773
Animators and dentists were at war with each other since World War I, did you not see one of those lackluster Kurosawa samurai movies Toho unleashed on the public? They didn't even refund their egg sandwiches. Totally /m/ because teeth are /m/anly.

>>14561769
why are pretzels considered salt foods? The salt usually comes later.

>>14561778
Baltan Seijin samefags, does that make it /m/? What about copy machines?

>there ill be no /m/anlier food in our life time than the fried chicken pizza buritto by Arby's which Subway wants to mimic because Mike Tyson told them so
>Mmmmmmm, Tyson's chicken
>Mike Tyson is /m/ because punching is /m/

>>14554219
>In a LOGH thread of all places, I shouldn't have to say authoritarianism has its place.
Yeah, and it isn't "everywhere"

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>>14561798
>YFW Carlos Mencia replaces Larry Wilmore nd actually does comedy

>>14561814
We need more Beargguy macro memes at some point and less Symphogear topics. Tastes like lobster.

>>14561818
less Nanoha topics to, take it back to /a/ where they can splooge over nonexistent yuri

>Autist gets BTFO and proceeds to samefag the thread trying to reach bump limit to hide his failure
Sad!

So /m/, how do we make Bigfoot /m/ related? Or is that worth a topic?

>>14561827
>Autist gets BTFO
Nobody got BTFO, /pol/
>samefag
Prove it

this is now a /ck/ crossover board, on this episode of Rachael Ray we will be serving meals for diabetic robots! Why? Because everyone sucks but Bender.

>>14561827
>Sad!
Sure it is COMMA anon COMMA sure it is PERIOD

Especially when the intellectual annotator won.

>>14547913
Mods on forums need to be called out more.

>>14561823
Just a reminder that Nanoha does not have /m/ references in it, just people that take coincidences far too serial.

>Literally trying to defend an autist who got banned for breaking the rules, nigga's you do realize you don't own the website so you have to follow their rules, if you don't wanna don't fucking go on ANN.

>>14561847
>serial
What is the most /m/ breakfast anyway? I'm thinking Honey Combs

>>14561849
I wasn't <3

>>14561849
prove he's an "autist", Dr. I have no way to diagnose the patient.

>>14561849
there is a difference between rules and interpretation, ever heard of George Zimmerman?

>>14561854
Golden Grahams would be a contender

>>14561849
Any chance you're from Ferguson, Missouri and worked on the police department there?

>>14561849
How do you know he isn't a manic depressant? Show me the car fax, car fox.

>>14561902
>like a good neighbor e-surance is there

>This /pol/fag trying so hard to sound like a lefty.

>>14561907
this got me thinking, what insurance companies would cover giant robot fights? Or even monster fights in general?

>inb4 Blue Cosmos
>>14561910
Not from /pol/

What robot would Jake from State Farm pilot? I want to say Dai-Guard.

>>14561920
>It's Jake
>From State Farm
>Written by Go Nagai
>Illustrated by Kunio Okawara

Someone make this manga

>>14561933
>Jake From State Farm eats his Golden Grahams to power his Dai-Guard copy

>>14561943
>All this while fighting Big Foot from the eye of Jupiter
>Soon realizes Jupiter is worst Sailor Scout

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Proof /m/ has not recovered from the curse of Valvrave. Doctored only mildly.

>>14561972
I laughed too hard

>>14561914
>Not from /pol/
Interesting, so you admit to samefagging.

>>14561985
Welcome to /m/

Here is a new name for same posting to this degree: One Man Autism Corps or OMAC. Yeah I know a DC hero was named that but with Army.

>>14562004
Was OMAC in Bruce Timm's Justice League?

Anyone else remember The Zeta Project?

>>14547731
It's because of retards who are impressed that it's mainly just dudes talkin about boring shit all the time. Whoop dee doo you talk philosophical implications of war sooooo smart man! NOT!

>>14551777
>Holy shit it's the old /toy/ shitposter
prove it
>Getter discussion here is ruined because of you
We have Getter discussions?

>>14550716
>I have not seen Cybuster

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>>14551338
No, now have a Zegapain demotivational poster. That thing should tam up with the LoGH cast for misadventures!

>>14549131
Patlabor was pretty bad though, only the third movie was worth a watch.

>>14561738
>All it's "codeword" for is "the consensus for this show places it at a higher quality than I believe is accurate." Just because you might disagree with the poster or have spotted a few misuses (where they're discussing their personal opinion of the show itself, and not their opinion of the general consensus the show deserves) doesn't mean that meaning isn't still well understood.

Yeah I know what the actual meaning is, I'm just saying that when I see most people use that word on the internet, they're misusing it.

>>14548038
>First Gundam is okay

>>14562158
Unless the show isn't actually popular, there's no way to know and no reason to assume they're misusing it until you've engaged in actual discussion and had them unpack their points. At that point, you would've already learned they had a lot more to say than "I don't like it!" even if it does turn out to be unrelated to the consensus. Either way, you're wrong about its use.

>>14548079
Weren't they butthurt about the english novel releases?