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Cutie Honey Tears

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New trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCVNDGJvJA

People don't seem to like this one. Aren't they just Anno fanboys?

It's not like the original movie was a masterpiece or anything.
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>>14546324
If you want a pleasant thread, maybe accusing people of factionalism shouldn't be one of the first things you do? Just a thought.

Anyway, while Anno's movie (calling it the "original" is a bit silly, because they're mostly unrelated productions) may not have been a cinematic masterpiece, it was stylish and unmistakably Cutie Honey. I think what most people dislike about what's been shown of Tears, is that so far it seems more like a generic sci-fi action flick with some Cutie Honey characters and plot elements mixed in than an actual Cutie Honey movie. To be honest, me having any hope that this movie will be any good now pretty much hinges on whether Honey will actually shout "Honeeeey Flash!" to transform. My current expectation is that she'll just say "Honey Flash" like she's in a Calvin Klein commercial.

By the way, isn't that battle suit is kind of conservative?
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>>14546469
>I think what most people dislike about what's been shown of Tears, is that so far it seems more like a generic sci-fi action flick
Yet this is also Cutie Honey too.

Have you watched new Cutie Honey or even read the manga?
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>>14546505
>Yet this is also Cutie Honey too.
You're not being entirely clear here, but are you trying to say that Cutie Honey isn't all that original either? Well sure, if you put aside the whole female lead in an action series thing (taking into consideration the era it originated), Cutie Honey is basically about a transforming hero fighting an unambiguously evil organization; works like that were a dime a dozen even when it first came out. But just because something isn't terribly original in every aspect doesn't mean it doesn't have any distinctive qualities or that it's equivalent to something else that's also not terribly original.

>Have you watched new Cutie Honey or even read the manga?
Yes and yes (at least the first manga). What of it?
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>>14546344
>>14546351

All the other dresses in the trailer look good so why does her main fighting one look so goddamn generic and lacking in sex appeal?

still looks like Ghost in the Shell.
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>>14546324
I hated previous teasers, but loved this particular trailer. I think I can even fap to it.
The Live series is best though.
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>>14546737

Word that player, I still can't believe how different she is in that in comparison to the Fourze movie, it was a legit transformation
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>>14546344
>>14546351
Tears seems decidedly less insane, colorful, and sexualized than majority of the past incarnations. Even the original manga and anime adaptation. Anno's film wasn't a masterpiece, but it was definitely fun and fully embraced the absurdity of the brand (aside from the toned down sexually provocative content). I guess this new take could work, though I'm afraid it'll end up feeling generic and forgettable if isn't careful.
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>>14546324
Why do they keep making live action Honey? It's embarrassing. Just stop.
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>>14546324
The actress is cute but you can tell this is going to be soulless in the same way hollywood remakes of 80s action movies are.
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>>14546834
Fret not, anon. Someone will do justice some day.
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>>14546751
My long lost brother. Today I finally found you.
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>>14546859
It doesn't help that the director previously did Ghost in the Shell: SAC's OP and absolutely nothing else.
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>>14546716
>>14546815
I don't see the point of a new Cutie Honey movie if it's just going to be like the 2004 movie or the 2007 tv series. The difference between this and Ghostbusters 2016, is that it's called Cutie Honey Tears to differentiate itself, not just Cutie Honey. It's a reboot spinoff to Cutie Honey the same way MazinSaga and Z Mazinger are, to Mazinger Z, and Mazinkaiser SKL to Mazinkaiser.

I'm okay for a fresh take on the series.
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They're both shit.
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>>14546886
A.T did two shorts. I think it's him.

Silicon;Bootdrive

https://vimeo.com/108996286

Stroboscope

https://vimeo.com/123088273

Profile

https://vimeo.com/user8894199
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Also this one,

Source

https://vimeo.com/32069039
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>>14547071

Just like the manga.
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>>14547100
>>14547071
What?
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>>14547131
Spics gonna spic
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>>14547068
Except that every adaption of Cutie Honey so far, including the movie and TV drama, has been rather different from each other. The last 40+ years has been full of "fresh takes" on Cutie Honey, so your insistence that people are simply responding negatively to what has been shown of Tears so far because it's not like the last movie is completely misguided.
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>>14547189
>so your insistence that people are simply responding negatively to what has been shown of Tears so far because it's not like the last movie is completely misguided

Except the Japanese comments are saying exactly that. They don't like it because Honey doesn't have big boobs in this one.
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>>14547078
Stroboscope is enjoyable.

The rest is sci fi nonsense.
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>>14546324
>no erotic scenes and dirty jokes
>no western blonde honey

fucking dropped
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>>14547662
Sister Jill is pretty though
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>>14547662
What do you want, an ugly jap bitch dyeing her hair yellow? Besides, the japs wouldn't ever accept a foreign actress playing Honey knowing how xenophobic they are.
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>>14547681
I just want a cute dumb blonde with huge titties as honey.
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>>14547702
Whiteys can't do Honey.

They need to look way more feminine.
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Should I read or watch Cutie Honey?
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>>14546324
3DPD adaptations rarely work out.
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>>14548396
Yes
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>>14548420
Thanks anon, you've been a big help.
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The grimdark, 2gritty4u Cutey Honey remake nobody ever asked for. [EYEROLL]

Actually... it looks pretty cool. It just shouldn't be associated with Cutey Honey.
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>>14548396

Watch. No doubt here.
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>>14548751
>The grimdark, 2gritty4u Cutey Honey
Describes Cutie Honey pretty well, if you've actually read Nagai's manga
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>>14546324
The fuck is that shit. Where is fanservice? Where are the jokes? Why is her hair not pink? What's with all this edginess? Why does she look like a one-off villian from Kamen Rider?
Did they forget what is Cutie Honey and what is it famous for?
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>>14546344
Wow.
I think this might be the most boring Cutie Honey design period.
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>>14549121
Nagai's works were ridiculous and self-aware, that's what made them fun. This shit doesn't seem to have any of that.
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>>14549387
floof?
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>>14547131
Cutie Honey live action is crap mate. Admit it. It just doesn't work. This is true in general when translating whacky manga/anime into live action film. Anno tried to keep some of the cartoony flavour in, but the end result is pretty underwhelming.

>>14547142
I'm not a spic, faggot.
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>>14549387
God I fucking hate that Honey. Gainax just went full otaku like with everything they do which is not what the series needs.

>>14547708
That looks like a fucking slav. They should just get a mix raced Jap so she'll look the part, I guess.
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>>14549510
The original is better of course, but I like that Honey. She looks ridiculous and fun, just like her own series.
I think that if someone wants to reboot Honey, that's the direction they should take. The original manga had some serious moments but it was mostly famous for being the first mahou shoujo for men, and the first ecchi anime series. People remember Honey for being very sexy and action-packed. If someone wants to revive the franchise, they need to focus on that. Take the new DOOM as an example - Bethesda took the ideas which made the original game famous (fast-paced action, copious amounts of gore and demons) and threw out everything else (like horror elements). The result was very well-received.
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>>14549551
I prefer Shin.

If I can't get my dose of trashy noir sci fi, then it's not Nagai.

RE: makes the lesbos attractive. Wrong move. It's an attempt to bring in the casual anime audience.

Cutie Honey is supposed to be that series that parodies itself as a fun cute sexy series, but is actually disgusting, and makes you uncomfortable while reading it. RE: didn't give you any of that. I didn't want to barf and throw up.

For a Nagai title, this is wrong.
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>>14547290
You mean unlike all those other, small-chested incarnations of Honey?
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>>14550170
That's why I didn't say that Re: was perfect. It had its share of problems but it got certain things right and was moving in the right direction.
There's one big problem with Cutie Honey: Go Nagai himself. Like you said, his works were shocking and trashy, but it simply will not translate into a modern anime. So, we have to change something, and that something is aesthetics. I know that my opinion is unpopular, but Re:'s visual style is exactly the thing we need otherwise it will look like shit because we're not in the 90s anymore. Now, here's what I think: Honey should be a self-aware parody of itself and of the whole genre. A violent and bloody mahou shoujo about a cute girl who is going to rip 'n tear her way through while getting molested in every possible way. Imagine Precure but with a single heroine, tons of fanservice and Hellsing Ultimate-tier violence. And much like Hellsing Ultimate, it doesn't take itself seriously while technically reaching Urobutcher levels of edge. That's a general idea.
I love Cutie Honey to death because it's such a unique and fun concept, and it still has a ton of potential. Re: tried to reinvent the franchise but it didn't go all the way, which is unfortunate - it had a shitload of style but no substance. Kill la Kill later tried to expand on Re:'s concept but ended up sticking with Gurren Lagann's formula of success, and it was a bad idea in my opinion. And "Tears" looks like utter garbage because it misses the point completely by making Honey unironically edgy (I'm a fan of Devil May Cry series, so I've been through this before).
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>>14547662
Why western when Honey is Japanese?
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>>14546324
i seriously hate japanese acting
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>>14547681
even they did hired foreigner actor it be probably some random clueless tourist
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>>14550618
She is supposed to be half-Japanese.
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>>14550618
Half American apparently. Besides, she does have blonde hair and her design was inspired by playboy magazines supposedly.

>>14550575
>Imagine Precure but with a single heroine, tons of fanservice and Hellsing Ultimate-tier violence. And much like Hellsing Ultimate, it doesn't take itself seriously while technically reaching Urobutcher levels of edge. That's a general idea.
That's not what Cutie Honey should be, twat. And Precure? Seriously? Please don't mention Honey and that in the same sentence. It's not even remotely similar even if you were to imagine something like what you said.

>>14550654
Nah. Pretty sure it'd be one of those blond American chicks that does JAV, and I think I'm gonna puke now than you very much.
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>>14550682
>That's not what Cutie Honey should be, twat. And Precure? Seriously? Please don't mention Honey and that in the same sentence. It's not even remotely similar even if you were to imagine something like what you said.
I mean the action. Precure is the only mainstream mahou shoujo with actual physical fighting, so I used it as an example. Obviously, it's different from Cutie Honey.
>That's not what Cutie Honey should be, twat.
Well, then explain your vision, if you would. I'm just trying to paint a picture of what it should be, throwing ideas around is one way of doing it.
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>>14550575
Cutey Honey should be a combination of both comedy and drama. Keeping the balance is important.
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>>14550970
But that would require some extensive rewriting because the original story is simply outdated ("muh evil organization killing innocent people" is not enough nowadays), and not many people are talented enough for that job.
Makes we wish Anno directed an anime instead of a movie. Maybe it would've worked out better.
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>>14551041
The point is that this evil organisation consists of a bunch of ugly women lesbos. They should emphasise that. When you get a rise out of PC feminists, you know you've done a good job. I wished there was something else like the Violence Jack ovas to shake up things.
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>>14550731
Cutie Honey isn't something that's easy to adapt right from the source material. But throwing in fanservice or doing what Gainax did is just wrong because while the original does have fanservice and the like, it is done in its own style and charm so it doesn't come off as the casual otaku fanservice that the likes of Gainax do. Even the humor or Nagai's humor in all his works are never present in any of the adaptions, and that's a crucial aspect and appeal of his works and Cutie Honey.

In short, it can't be adapted to anime correctly since alterations will have to take place so I think it should just be left as a manga. Do it right and be faithful, or don't do it at all.
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>>14554326
>so it doesn't come off as the casual otaku fanservice that the likes of Gainax do
This. There's the degenerate kind of fanservice, and then there's the fun kind of fanservice.

Also casual reminder that Cutie Honey was just as popular among Japanese women as it was to men. Cutie Honey isn't just a series that otakus jack off to or some shit.
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>>14554326
I understand where you are coming from, but I disagree. People once thought that "Lord of the Rings" was unadaptable, and yet Peter Jackson was able to make a masterpiece trilogy out of it. I would compare adapting a book or manga to translation: it's impossible to translate a text completely without missing words and expressions from the original language. So there's nothing wrong with changing things, as long as the spirit, tone and meaning of the original are preserved.
Now let's take a look at "Re: Cutie Honey" - it was a part of a complete reboot of the whole franchise, and as far as I remember it was generally well-received. For many people it was their first introduction to "Cutie Honey", and now it's the go-to thing to watch if someone wants to get into "Cutie Honey". In my opinion, even though the whole thing had its fair share of problems (most of them were related to it being a very short OVA), it did a good job at reinventing "Cutie Honey" for the XXI century, I only wish it had more time to expand on its own plot and ideas, because that 60 minute long mess of a plot looked more like a proof of concept than anything else (and the fact that each episode was directed by a different person didn't help).
I wish someone would take Re: and develop it further. Add more dark elements, add more substance and make it less hectic. The idea behind it was good, but it required refining. We have to change Honey if want her to survive, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as we remember who she was and who she is supposed to be. What I want them to do is to take "Re:Cutie Honey" and make "Cutie Honey Kuuga" out of it.
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>>14546324
It looks like it's taking itself way too seriously and forgetting to be sexy.
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>>14554639
Yeah, that's what everyone is saying. The movie is going to be a failure.
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There are attractive lesbians in Cutie Honey.

They're like 90% of the cast, it's not just Panther Claw.
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>People are expecting Kisaragi Honey as MC in this movie
>not reading the MC is Kisaragi Hitomi, a different andriod
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>>14554695
Shouldn't the movie be called Cutie Hitomi then?
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>>14550656
>>14550682
>>14550618
>>14547662
Nicole Ishida is half Japanese. (She's playing Sister Jill)
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>>14546324
>another fucking movie
>edgy as fuck
>nothing sexual about it
>this bitch doesn't even look anything like Honey
WHY NAGAI WHY
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>>14546344
>>14546351
>Those padded small tits.
No thank you.


They should hire a porn star like Tsubasa Amami with BIG TITS (even if they are fake).

And then make it full of echi scenes. A henshin scene would have her really naked.
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I still remember my face when live action Honey got her bike. I thought, this bike is so SUPER LAME AND GAY!!!! WHY??????
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>>14554695
Is that supposed to be an excuse?
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>>14555883
>this bitch doesn't even look anything like Honey
That's actually because she's not Honey. >>14554695
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>>14554589
Sure anything is adaptable in theory.

But not by the Japanese movie industry.

Hell LOTR took a decade of planning and financing before they even began filming.

Does anyone in Japan have 150 million to spend on a movie adaptation of a manga?

I give Hollywood a lot of shit but they know how to do blockbusters.
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>>14556488
Oh and I mean US dollars not Yen kek.
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>>14556488
Well, "Cutie Honey" is not "Lord of the Rings".
What I don't understand is why people insist on making a movie with her. It must be made into an anime because the original manga was too cartoonish and because Japanese movie industry is too incompetent.
And who thought that Tears was a good idea? Going full SJW with Cutie fucking Honey is the most retarded idea I've ever heard.
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>>14557233

In what way is this SJW?
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>>14557275
Perhaps best to just ignore him
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>>14557275
Being afraid of sexual themes. This movie looks, for the lack of a better word, neutered.
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Literally Kamen Rider The First: Mahou Shoujo Edition.
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>>14549396

Precisely. Zero irony, zero satire, just grrrrrggghh
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>>14557473
and
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>>14557233
>>14557473
>>14557552
But they reboot Nagai stuff in different ways all the time.

I'm just happy to see Cutie Honey back.

It could be a little decent flick to watch on a Sunday evening.
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>>14558560
>But they reboot Nagai stuff in different ways all the time.
It's the first time I see such a drastic reboot of Nagai's work.
>It could be a little decent flick to watch on a Sunday evening.
I hope everything works out well for this movie, but you have to admit - this trailer looks bad.
>I'm just happy to see Cutie Honey back.
True. I really want this series to make a comeback.
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>>14558570
>True. I really want this series to make a comeback.
On the bright side, the hype created by the movie might trigger some of that. The Lupin III live-action movie from a few years back wasn't very good, but I'm pretty sure the fact that we've had two Lupin TV series in the last few years as well a few phantom thief-themed shows and a more frequent occurrence of phantom thief characters isn't completely unrelated to its existence.
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>>14558570

The Live was pretty much more of the same kind of thing. It had some tittilation, but got very serious at times. It worked for The Live though.
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>>14558570
>It's the first time I see such a drastic reboot of Nagai's work.
Nostalgiafags didn't like the idea behind Giga at all. Just look at all these angry comments on the manga trailer videos.

It wasn't drastic for Nagai, but it was drastic for those who were only familiar with the TV series.

Shin Mazinger was hated for being different. They didn't want Tsubasa and the gang, even though I personally thought they were cool as fuck.

>this trailer looks bad.
In what way does it look bad? The cgi seems decent for a Japanese flick, the girls are cute, it has the theme song.

The first trailer was bad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC6t8G9pEYs), but this is OK.
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>>14558595
I'm a little under halfway through The Live and it's so strangely moodswingy. http://b.1339.cf/flxmqxq.webm
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>>14558613
>In what way does it look bad? The cgi seems decent for a Japanese flick, the girls are cute, it has the theme song.
It doesn't feel like Cutie Honey that I know. I know I'm repeating myself here, but they really should've made an animated movie instead.
Whatever, we'll wait and see.
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>>14558634
>http://b.1339.cf/flxmqxq.webm
What the actual fuck.
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>>14546344
>>14546351
>no boob window
>no boobs
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>Make a Cutie Honey movie
>Its not a JAV
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>>14558814
Cutie Honey The Live is kind of strange. I posted a bunch more in this thread >>>/wsg/1184044 (the webms with "honey" in the filename and the 1339.cf link)
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>>14558634

Yea, The Live is a really strange show. I love it despite that though, because it balances its various elements well and has a lot of fun characters.

>>14558814

The show gets really dark at times. Not dark in an edgy dead baby way, but just hammering in how shit humans can be. The scene that stands out most for me is Honey returning to class at one point to find someone had written "Get out Kisaragi Honey" on the blackboard because the school had found out she was a cyborg and most everyone was bullying her and trearting her like shit despite her desire to just be accepted. It's not the darkest scene, but it is the most emotionally crushing because it destroys the one good thing she had in her life at the time (a school life and some normalcy).

For all that though it can be a very silly show at times too, with my favorite example being some hobos dressing a guy up as an obvious Gundam (using cardboard) to lead them in a revolution. There's a husband and wife team of villains in the back half that are very silly while remaining a threat too, which I love.

It's probably my favorite toku because it does such a good job with various elements while including some good action and so on throughout too. It's not huge on fan service, but there is some of it, like Honey beating a mook by hitting him with her butt. It's mostly in the opening episodes though if I recall.

I've heard some complaints that it's not really Honey, but I don't mind personally, probably since I'm not huge on Honey itself - just the show. There is a good theory the show is a prequel though, since in the ending Cutie absorbs the personality of the other two Honeys, which would probably make her closer to her manga counterpart - though we don't see much of her to indicate if it's true. Definitely worth checking out though.
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>The scene that stands out most for me is Honey returning to class at one point to find someone had written "Get out Kisaragi Honey" on the blackboard because the school had found out she was a cyborg and most everyone was bullying her and trearting her like shit despite her desire to just be accepted.
Shit, now I'm afraid of watching it because that stuff triggers me. Japanese bullying is too fucked up.
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>>14559185
>the size of Honey's boobs is mentioned in her fucking theme song
>they don't even bother to put some cotton into her bra to make her look a little less flat
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>>14559412

The Live is just tonally weird. Like, some of the villains feel like something Kamen Rider would fight. The Panther Claw guys are basically high-level kaijin villains. After watching Kamen Rider W, you sort of expect Accel or Shotaro to ride up any moment now and start dispensing two-fisted justice.

It's just weird. Honey herself is extremely ineffective, and I'd argue that the other two girls are far more attractive than her. But they don't really accomplish anything of note through the series: the final villain is one of the other girls!

Basically, they were more-or-less just fucking around. Then everyone died.
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>>14559535

Well I can definitely agree that it's weird and that Miki is much more attractive than Honey (what's the other girls name again?), but I wouldn't say it was bad for all that or sum it up as just them fucking around and then they died.
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>>14559543

I dunno, it felt like they didn't really accomplish anything. All the threatening villains were killed off when Sister Yuki went evil, or they killed themselves. (Like the evil lesbian harlequin who looked like Taboo from W.)

It really, really felt like a Kamen Rider series except Kamen Rider set his alarm clock late. Cutie Honey is basically a really strange story, because it's all silliness until Sister Jill shows up, and Sister Jill is Satan.
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Why are there so many live action versions of Cutie Honey? I thought she was supposed to be the OG 2D waifu with a perfect body that can't be replicated in 3D.
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>>14559535
>tonally weird
>then everyone died
That sound Nagai as fuck
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>>14559577
Did he ever finish any of his series?
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>>14546324
>People don't seem to like this one.
Well no shit. It looks like Amazons' retarded cousin.
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This looks worse than Ghostbusters
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>>14559581
Just from what I can think right now without wiki help

- Devilman
- Violence Jack
- Shuten Doji (original Gainax ending)
- Devilman Lady (rushed end for the editorial meddling but still an end)
- Harenchi Gakuen (best ending ever)
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>>14559575
>Why are there so many live action versions of Cutie Honey?
There are only 2 movies and one tv series.

Compared to Kekko Kamen...
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>>14559612
Those are softcore porn. Well duh, the original manga is softcore too but the Kekko Kamen movies have JAV-tier budget. Not even Anno's Honey was that cheap. I only watched kekko kamen surprise, the only one I found with subs, and it was pretty good though
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Someone needs to make a complete TV adaptation of Cutie Honey. No OVAs, no movies, no live action bullshit - just a straightforward 26-episodes-long anime with an actual ending.
The franchise has a problem right now - there's no definitive way to get into it. The original 1973 series is too old, Shin is not a complete story, Flash is a Sailor Moon ripoff, and Re: is too short. Some people might recommend the original manga, but let's be frank - it looks like ass, and it's impossible to follow for many reasons.
TV anime can be very successful, Kill la Kill (basically a copycat of Re: Cutie Honey) is an example of that. Seriously, how hard can it be? And nowadays you can get away with a lot of stuff on TV, so they don't have to alter the original vision like they did in the 70s.
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>>14559761
>Seriously, how hard can it be?
Very hard especially when no company is willing to fund your shit. Anno's live action movie made the producing company go bankrupt. Dynamic Pro is building their brand through twitter and collabs, but it's gonna be hard, especially when they haven't been relevant forever. The nature of the anime industry these days mean that your stuff quickly gets forgotten as soon as it finishes its run.

This is made worse by the fact that all Dynamic Pro adaptations in the past decade, barely sold. Their best run was with Cyborg 009 vs Devilman but it still sold less than 3000 copies.

Why waste money on a tv anime, when you could make more money through pachinkos and other means?
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>>14559761
Kill la Kill is only popular because of the people involved.
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>>14559761
>Flash is a Sailor Moon ripoff
Eh, while it has some similar elements and was obviously made as part of Sailor Moon's afterglow, I'd say it's closer to being Cutie Honey with some Sailor Moon-like window dressing than it is to being Sailor Moon with Cutie Honey window dressing. The only reason I wouldn't recommend it as a starting point is because of how its target audience differs from everything else in the franchise.
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>>14559798
Well, that's depressing. But why are they making movies then?
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>>14559577
The original Honey manga was like that too, except it didn't have a real ending
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>>14559834
It was even tamer than the 1973 series, as far as I remember.
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>>14559839
Since it's risky to do an anime, doing a movie that previous had Anno's name attached to the IP might help.

As the years go by, I realised that we're never going to get a full adaptation of Devilman. Last time they chickened out with the crossover.
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>>14559850
Obviously because of the different target audience, it doesn't have a whole lot of booby groping and such, but it's not entirely wholesome either. It's also the only Honey that ends up having sex with Seiji - it's not shown explicitly, of course, but they do do the whole withering flower and waking up naked thing.
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>>14559858
I just want them to make some sort of a conclusion for Honey. I don't want to watch my favorite magical girl die forgotten and abandoned - they should at least give her story a proper ending. And it should be an animation, like it was always supposed to be. Or even better - a manga, drawn by a talented artist (like Murata, for example). I'm sure it's possible to do.
And I'm afraid because this movie looks like it's going to flop, and then Dynamic Pro will most likely give up on Cutie Honey completely. And no one wants that.
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>>14559923

They're unlikely to forget about her since the idea of a show about a female cyborg who can transform outfits at will fighting a load of other women with some fan service throw on top is too easy a target to resist and seems like it could be a recipe for success, even if history says otherwise. They might let it lie fallow for 5 or 10 years, but she won't just disappear.
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>>14559883
I was surprised that Seiji was a poorfag for real and not the stranded heir from a rich family or something. That was a ballsy move under female media standards
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>>14559923
I don't feel Cutie Honey needs an ending.

It's a timeless classic that will continue getting rebooted as long as DP is alive.

Compare it to stuff like Naruto, which obviously needs an ending since it's a shounen with clear story arcs and character progression.

Cutie Honey just isn't that kind of IP.
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>>14559923
Re and Flash both have endings, though the latter's not subbed entirely (even if the finale technically is).
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>>14558634
I love Live, it was the SHIT!
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>>14560401
>naruto
>character progression
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>>14559273
>>14559412
>>14559535
>>14559554
I wouldn't expect any less from Inoue. He's a strange writer. Though he's capable of writing women that can fight (see Dirty Pair), so this is odd, even for him.
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>>14546351
Ew, disgusting flat chest
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>>14564149
That's Asians for you.
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>>14561488
Yeah, I realise it all boils down to SASUKAY, but it's still character progression no matter how shitty it is.
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