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Mecha Power Chart

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What needs to be changed? What needs to be added?
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>>14528340
Let's get this out the way first.

SPICSPICSPICSPICSPICSPICSPICSPIC

With that being said, Getter Emperor is retarded fanwankery garbage that doesn't do half the shit you faggots claim it does.
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>>14528340
What needs to happen is that you need to start over since you're making almost every robot on that chart seem way more powerful than it actually is.

>Rahxephon
>Universe tier

>Giant Robo
>Country tier

>GGGG
>Galaxy tier
Absolutely trolling.
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>>14528392
Didn't GGGG delete all of the planets and the sun in a galaxy in like ten seconds?
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>>14528392
>GGGG
>Galaxy tier
>implying that's wrong
If it can destroy a sun, it can destroy a galaxy. Don't be a retard.
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>>14528340
I don't see Aquarion Logos at the very top
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>>14528436
>>14528440
Pisa Sol was a planetoid that wasn't the size of a real sun, and it did that using a one-use external weapon, the Goldion Crusher, which is several orders of magnitude more powerful than anything it has inherently and was originally designed to be used with a different mecha (GaoFighGar) to begin with.

It's kinda be like saying Dancouga is a reality warper because it can make a giant laser sword using the laser beam from the Gundor base and said laser is capable of warping things into another dimension.
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>>14528340
LED Mirage
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>>14528340
Kirby's Robobot should've been on there from the start.
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>>14528340
Why is The Iron Giant so high up? And didn't Zearth destroy universes?
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>>14528541
>Why is The Iron Giant so high up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05XM9huSWNU

>And didn't Zearth destroy universes?
No, the people who made it are the ones who destroy universes.

Zearth genocided a planet at the end of the manga. That's the most it's done.
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>>14528595
That video had an army of robots and isn't very clear on what is actually happening.
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Ultimate Gravion always seems to be fairly high on these lists, is there some side material I haven't heard of or am I just forgetting something from show? I can't remember anything about it besides it turning into a flaming bird. What warrants it being so powerful?
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>>14528476
Came here to see this shitpost.
Disappointed that there isn't the image.
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>>14528858
Logos does deserve top tier though
>>14528641
>What warrants it being so powerful?
Destroys planets according to Sandman and it's sword makes black holes that destroy beings as powerful as Goma.
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>>14528440
>If it can destroy a sun
>it can destroy a galaxy

Holy mother of fucking shit how retarded can someone be?
Our Sun is roughly one solar mass. The Milky Way? 580000000000 solar masses, at the fucking least.

And Pisa Sol wasn't even the size of our sun in the first place.
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>>14528340
SDF is orders of magnitude more powerful than the iron giant and nono is far above anything else in the same tier.

shit/10 would not use.
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>>14528358
>Getter Emperor is retarded fanwankery garbage that doesn't do half the shit you faggots claim it does.

That's kind of the case with all super-mega-awesome bigger than yours things.
Like, just about a week ago, /tg/ had a TTGL thread and hot damn, if I didn't know the place I would outright call them out on never having watched the show at all considering their ridiculous claims.

Also, >>14528340 why not add Dix-Neuf?
It was entirely capable of wrecking Diebuster, she simply stopped being a topless.
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>>14529082
>It was entirely capable of wrecking Diebuster,

Unwarranted speculation. Diebuster wasn't fighting back or even defending. Retard bitches temper tantrum didn't seem to have much effect at all.

Frankly I doubt dixneuf could even beat nono.
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>>14529082
>It was entirely capable of wrecking Diebuster

Not really. Douze-Mille was punching Diebuster, but it wasn't doing that much damage to her, to say nothing of the fact that Nono's goal wasn't to fight Lal'C, but to simply forcefully stop Douze-Mille from going any further.
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>>14529082
Well, the thing about it when you get to the higher end robots is the question of potential and limitations

That's why Getter Emperor is as high as it usually is. We never see it do anything particularly powerful (in Ishikawa's works, anyway), but we do know that Getter Rays have no theoretical limitation or end point and will inevitably devour the universe and potentially the multiverse given enough time as Emperor grows ever bigger. The same kind of reasoning is used for Demonbane as well.

By contrast, TTGL is usually lower because spiral power is stated to have an eventual limitation on how much it can be used, not to mention that the mecha itself failed at the one fight it got itself into.
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>>14529112
It's blatantly fallacious to assume something's upper limits based upon the fact that you haven't seen said limits.

It's best to make judgement based on what they have been shown capable of.
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>>14529108
indeed. Also dix-neuf only had one of those reactors, nono and buster legion/diebuster had billions or trillions of them at her disposal.
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>>14528865
>Logos does deserve top tier though
Elaborate without posting meme images.
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>>14529112
>The same kind of reasoning is used for Demonbane as well

Not really.
Demonbane has points in its canon for relative comparison and overall quantification to be made. I'm other words, an objective relationship can be deduced (the Klein Bottle, Ain Soph Aur/ Athlete Aeternum, Blasters, and so-on).

GE, on the other hand, doesn't have that much of a comparative relationship with its canon, if at all, to place it at the levels it is often found
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>>14528340
>Not Aquarion logos
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>>14529112
>The same kind of reasoning is used for Demonbane as well.
Except Demonbane actually does all the shit people say it can do in the fucking books/games while Getter Emperor's wank is a load of bullshit people pulled out of their asses.
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>>14528340
I don't see any Dolores or Jehuty here
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>>14528340
You need to fix that scale first, because that's the easiest way to classify things better.

Building level
City Block
Town
City
Island
Country
Continent
Moon
Planet(which goes from small to large planet)
Star(same as planet, small to large)
Solar System
Galaxy
Multi Galaxy
Universal>>14528358
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>>14529152
>>14529373
>Except Demonbane actually does all the shit people say it can do
Not 100%.
I see a lot of people mixing Demonbane of different endings together (including the ones where he actually blew up and died), feats without context and just false shit.

But I don't know the feats of all the other possible mechas to really know how and where everything should be.
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>>14529633
>I see a lot of people mixing Demonbane of different endings together

They're all canon according to Kishin Hishou.
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>>14529633
>I see a lot of people mixing Demonbane of different endings together
Are you retarded? The entire point of Demonbane Athleta Aeternum is that all of it is canon.

>feats without context and just false shit
Like what, shitposter?
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>>14529633
>I see a lot of people mixing Demonbane of different endings together
You do know that all the routes are canon because parallel worlds, right? The sequel even has Kurou and Al's kid from the future of the elder god ending come to the world of the good ending, and Kurou and Al from the elder god ending pay a visit to the anime world in the final episode to bring Al home. And when people talk about Demonbane in relation to power levels they talk about EG Demonbane because it's explicitly stated to have the powers of ALL Demonbanes of all possibilities.

It's already omnipotent and capable of literally anything but autists insist on "feats" which is why stuff the weaker forms can do are listed, because EGD can do the same thing only infinitely better.
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>>14529129
Like the MJBK it can interact with concepts that affect all reality and destroy them, Logos does it more instantly and has the Aquarion arsenal.
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>>14529787
>omnipotent
There's that word again.

It's not even a 4th wall breaker.
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>>14529816
>dur what is kishin hisho
Go away shitposter.
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>>14529819
Show me where Demonbane broke the 4th wall.

Or am I the one being asked a question.
Kishin Hisho is a shitty eroge
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>>14528340
What's the WEAKEST mech that's still victorious/successful in its series?
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>>14528340
>no Macross

kill yourself
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Power level discussions are fun because people always get angry
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>>14529841
Ordian
That thing can't even handle the recoil of its own weapons and loses entire limbs due to this and also gets owned by mechs a fifth of its size.
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>>14529829
Kishin Hishou isn't an eroge, for starters.

>Show me where Demonbane broke the 4th wall.

Account that hosted the videos is gone. All that's left is this corpse of a link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeOWU5herUE

Anyways, if you manage to beat Another Blood with Doctor West, Nyarlathotep will intervene and apologize to the player as she didn't think to make an ending for such a scenario. She then gives the player over nine hundred different endings to choose from, though you're only shown a handful.
Among those are some sort of battle shonen parody, though I've been told that it's a Kamen Rider parody (Kuzaku claims that Another Blood was a lower ranking member of some organization or something and he wants to fight Doctor West now), Doctor West as a detective, and Doctor West and Elsa fighting Nyarlathotep as Elder Gods.
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>>14529911
So Nyarlathotep broke the 4th wall, not Demonbane.
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>>14529917
Indeed.

And Demonbane is Nyarlathotep's hardcounter.
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>>14529841
Escaflowne comes to mind
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>>14529911
That's not even what I was talking about. I meant the parts where it's shown that all of the events in the entire multiverse are a stage play and Nyarlathotep is the scriptwriter and director. The final boss is the ending of the play brought about by the Clockwork Phantom which is said to be a literal deus ex machina.

Demonbane beats the shit out of him.
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>>14529940
I usually refrain from citing that, just because director, playwright, GAEMUKEEPAH, are sorta common self-appointed titles for villains of the scheming string-pulling variety, so it doesn't convey the same weight as other evidence.
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>>14529928
Nyar is obviously either retarded or just playing around with a self-insert because all she had to do was uninstall the VN to beat Demonbane.
If she can be outside the game.

Unless she's somehow a normal human beyond the 4th wall and there are factors preventing her from doing it. Or simply chooses not to herself.

Either way it's not like Demonbane can actually (permanently) kill her off so it's not that she's risking anything.
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>>14529980
There's no "Nya's just fucking around."

Demonbane just out fucking skills it.
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>>14529994
>can break 4th wall
>doesn't make use of it
Then it's Nya being stupid if she's actually trying.
I guess that's out skilled.

It would make a story infinitely more boring if the villain-esque girl just hops out of it to uninstall the VN if a battle doesn't go her way though.
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>>14529980
Vortex Blaster can.

And as part of Athleta Aeternum VB is part of EGD.
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>>14530016
EGD transcends dimensions

It breaks all the walls
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>>14530016
>Then it's Nya being stupid if she's actually trying.

That or, hey, maybe it just doesn't fucking work.
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So how would Demonbane ever beat Mary Sue?

inb4 Mary Sue ain't a mecha, fuck off the plot resolves around her.
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>>14530048
Don't knock it till it has been tried.

>>14530035
Yet I'm still here unhurt.
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>assuming narration is reliable
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>>14530119
You're only here because Demonbane is a cool guy who saved your ungrateful ass.
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>>14530205
Moreover,
>assuming narration from a crabsticks translation of an entire fucking novel is reliable

There's a reason I'm skeptical about Demonbane's true power level
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>>14529460
Use your brain. You can't have that many scaling levels on one image.
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Elder God Demonbane isn't omnipotent. I suggest you actually understand what that word means before making idiotic assumptions.

Before you autists try to bring it up, Azathoth and Nyarlathotep from the Demonbane meta aren't omnipotent either. Just because a talentless jap author uses entities from someone elses work in a fanfiction doesn't mean they retain the actual power of the original.
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>>14530329
I can feel the anger permeating from this post.
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>>14530285
>I'm skeptical about these translations
>even though they're backed up by numerous discussions in Japan

Are you retarded?
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>>14530329
How embarrassed you must be.
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>>14528340
>Tallgeese III higher than Macross
>Iron Giant higher than that
Great googly moogly, anon, what the hell? The Macross should be just below the Death Star. It can't crack a planet, but between the macross cannon and all those reaction warheads it can sure as fuck depopulate one. Actually, given that "barrier+reaction warheads=LOL" that destroyed millions of Zentradi ships in one blast, it might even be a planetbreaker.

Largeduck ain't got SHIT on that.

Also Domon Kasshu should be in the "nigh omnipotent" tier
>he's not a robot
He doesn't give a fuck about the laws of physics, why should he care about your rules?
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>>14530481
>Discussions in a language I can't read are proof that a shoddy translation is accurate
I think you may be the retarded one here
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>>14530486
you don't know what omnipotent means
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>>14530579
>backpedaling and not refuting the point

Don't forget you helmet when you leave for school.
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>>14530665
I'm just posting from the source, unless you think your imaginary rules somehow supersede the source.
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>>14530681
A talentless jap doesn't decide what omnipotent means, idiot.
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>>14529841
Dunbine?
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>>14530678
>implying you even had a point
Saying "discussions" with no citation or anything is meaningless
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>>14530776
But apparently you can decide what the canon is.
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Updated.
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>>14531199
>Turn A higher than the Macross
pfffffft
aside from farting out nanomachines it's s total shitbox. Devil Gundam is WAY more powerful, but even it doesn't belong above the Macross.
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>>14531199
God Reideen belongs into Universe tier since its purpose is to destroy universes and dimensions it deems evil.
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>>14530486
>assuming reliable narration
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>>14530944
Your canon doesn't dictate what constitutes omnipotence, idiot.
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>>14528340
Don't really watch much super robot shows, so I'd be only able to comment on the lower levels.

>Tallgeese III
>above SDF Macross in country tier

Know what I'll just leave.
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>>14531297
Refer to >>14531199
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>>14531199
Add this Zeorymer
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>>14531199
Dunbine could beat Escaflowne in a fight. Also

>War Machine more powerful than Mechagodzilla
>Baldios that low

Just no
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Why are there no Orbital Frames in the chart?

Shit can cause a tsunami and teleport
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>>14529082
/tg/ is notorious for powerwankers who dont know jack shit about what they are talking about shitting up threads, like how people insist a Spartan II count take down even a Space Marine scout, whenever halo comes up
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>>14531497
Because there are a lot of mechs and it will take a while to include them all?
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>>14531199
Why is Granzon so high?
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>>14531199
Excelio is too low
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Where the fuck would you put this thing that can shape a simulation?
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>>14531406
Do you actually understand how powerful War Machine is?
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>>14528358
stay mad /tg/
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>>14531816
care to explain?
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>>14531346
Elaborate on his capabilities.
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>>14532503
In the manga, Zeorymer's final boss is Black Zeorymer, piloted by another clone like Masaki. Since both have the interdimensional power sources, when they started fighting they merged into a single unit, running it's infinite dimensional capabilities constantly.

So basically, Zeorymer x2, with infinite energy and regeneration.
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>>14532556
I forget what it actually does doesn't it stop the earth from being destroyed by sacrificing itself or something?
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Zearth when he defeats another one all their planet got fucked, would put them between planet and country.
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>>14532625
The evil clone had set us up the bomb, which was powerful enough to blow up the Earth. Zeorymer negates it, shunting the destructive energy into another dimension. If I remember right, it's ambiguous whether the Zeorymer survived it, I think it did but was 'never seen again'.
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>>14528358
>this faggot again
Kill yourself.
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New update.
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>>14528340
>>14532660
Honest to god autism.
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>>14532660
Don't Aura Battlers powers increase ten fold once they arrive on Earth?
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Where is Vilkiss? It deserves to be there for being really OP.
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>>14532858
Elaborate.
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>>14532660
>Hi-Nu and Tallgoose is higher than Anubis

u wot
Fucking thing could teleport,compress space and shoot beams out of it (Aumaan Anubis) also take note of the fact that it can use its vector traps to redirect enemy fire so how can Hi-Nu and Tallgeese III even match it?
>Inb4 muh newtype magic

Anubis could tank the Iron Giant or SDF-1 at best
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>>14532679
Fuck off.
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>>14532660
Dougram (and combat armors in general) can easily blast a guymelef from a distance
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>>14532660
>add gurren lagann around EVA 01 level
>add Dix neuf closer to Turn A gundam
>add gundam unicorn next to i'm still watching so i don't know his total power level kraken
>add jehuty in there.
>D.va mech name is MEKKA
>add Eva 13 close to gunbuster
>add GIANT REI around death star
>add nano shinonome around the bottom close to MEKKA
>add fucking Metal gear around Arc gurren lagann
>add Sahalentropus close to kraken or the iron giant
>add raiden close to gunbuster (he still counts)
>add ICBM(the intercontinetal missle) around war machine
>add haro
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>>14532626
>planet

Their whole universe gets fucked.
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Why is Logos "special" and not at the top?
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>>14533024
Kill yourself.
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>>14534244
Same reason why Dunbine is so low
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>>14533672
>>14532626
The robot doesn't do this directly, the 'gods' in control of the 'game' do. The most the robot has ever done was genocided the population of a planet.
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>>14534434
Put Type-94 Shiranui just above Scopedog, but below anything else.

Pure weapon user.
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>>14528358
>>14529082
>>14529119
>>14529152
>>14529373
>all these Mexicans in one place
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>>14528340
Grendizer is the strongest because he's from space.
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>>14534879
Grendizer is distinct. He was built with an entire technology of a scientifically specialized and advanced planet. I sometimes get this question asked, what would happen if Grendizer fought Mazinkaiser? I believe the best place to find such answers is the latest clip that appeared and showed the Go Nagai robots mobilize. Anyone remember the 4-DVD set of the 4-episode OVA series called Shin Getter Robo vs. Neo Getter Robo? This is the one that had 1 episode per DVD, not the newer one that lumps all 4 episodes on one DVD. Well, after each of the first 3 episodes of this OVA series (at the end of each DVD) we were shown a compilation of the Mazinger Z story all over again. The art is beautiful because it was drawn in the 1990's. Really fantastic to see these 1970's super robots drawn again. First clip: Mazinger Z is depicted to fight so many enemies and soon he will face the new army. This new army is the Mikene Kingdom that will defeat Mazinger Z. Aphrodite A is show on a cross to be executed. This is basically the same story that happened to Mazinger Z in the movie of Mazinger Z vs. Ankoku Daishogun (General Dark). The neat part is that you see many enemies of the different series such as from Mazinger Z, Grendizer, Great Mazinger, and Getta Robo G. It's as if all the bad guys are teaming up together now. Second Clip: Great Mazinger along with others such as Getta Robo G, Venus A, and Jeeg will come to save the day. They defeat this army, but soon after that, Ankoku Daishogun (General Dark) appears from beneath the ground. Third Clip: All of the super robots that came to help Mazinger Z get beaten and damaged by Ankoku Daishogun. Ankoku Daishogun will grab Aphrodite A and nearly crush it with Sayaka inside it, but then Shin Getter Robo appears and chops Ankoku Daishogun's hand off. Grendizer launches out of nowhere and picks up Aphrodite A. Shin Getter Robo slashes Ankoku Daishogun with its huge axe weapon. Grendizer shoots out of Spazer and puts Aphrodit
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>>14534879
Nevertheless, it was Grendizer who finished off Ankoku Daishogun. I think this tells you something. Grendizer is in the same rank as Shin Getter Robo and Mazinkaiser. The neat thing here is that we are not shown what happens after Mazinkaiser appears. That fire enemy was in the Great Mazinger series, but after the Mikene Kingdom was defeated in Great Mazinger, we never saw that fire creature again. This clip does the same thing by not showing us what happens to this creature. Grendizer is not shown as being inferior to these new super robots that came after him, and this is shown by the fact that Dizer finished off Ankoku Daishogun. Another cool part is that Grendizer, Shin Getter Robo, and Mazinkaiser teaming up is the same idea as the movie where Grendizer, Great Mazinger, and Getta Robo G team up against Dragonzaurus. I firmly believe that Grendizer is still tops and his storyline necessitates that he be the most powerful one no matter what. There is only one UFO Robot ! Grendizer as a super robot is by far more powerful than any of the others. Whether it's Great Mazinger, Getta Robo G, Danguard Ace, Shin Getter Robo, or even Mazinkaiser, Grendizer remains the king. Hard to believe ? Don't let these newer super robots fool you. Just because they are newer, it doesn't mean they are any better. Grendizer is distinct. What makes Grendizer distinct from the rest is that he is a UFO robot; alien technology. Grendizer was built with the outstanding and advanced science logs of planet Freed. Planet Freed was a planet that did not partake in wars and dedicated all of its resources on science and technology. When Vega decided to attack Freed, they took all of this science and used it to build Grendizer. This super robot was to help Vega in taking over the universe as he planned. Tell me, when a super robot is built using an entire planet's specialization, the science, what will you come up with at the end ? Keep in mind what the aim of building this super robo
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So is autism necessary to enjoy demonbane or something.

For all the
>No man, it's just a fun hot blooded VN with the awesomely gay Dr West
dismissals, people get awfully protective of demonbane power levels.
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>>14528340
Put Boss Borot at the top. Boss is so powerful even the author doesn't know his real name.
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Where's Xabungle? Where's plain old Mazinger?
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>>14534434
Should Baldios be higher?
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>>14535783
it survived the gravity of a white dwarf and is 100m tall
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>>14536020
Does that make it galaxy level?
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>>14528340
>>14531199
>>14532660
>>14534434
Super autism
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>>14528340
>>14534434
Just posted this on Narutoforums, and they're all rightly laughing at what a shitheap chart this is.

http://www.narutoforums.com/threads/mecha-power-chart.1078919/
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>>14536366
Fuck off Mario
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>>14536366
People still use forums?
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>>14536501
>>14536366
>That one autist using SRW as a bases for power levels

Holy fuck
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>>14536366
Seriously?
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>>14536366
>being this assblasted to make screencaps on a message board to post it on /m/
Man you are one gigantic chuuni.
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>>14536507
>>14536366
(You)
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>>14534434
Why is Nono so high? She's nowhere near that level.
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>>14536708
Because the entire thing is deeply autistic?

This entire thread should be mocking the fuckwit who's doing this.
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>>14536655
Nah.

Also, there's a dude arguing that Giant Ray isn't planet-tier because she only turns life to orange juice. I'm pretty sure she could just as easily spear the planet in half but whatever.
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>>14536713
Power levels are inherently autistic.
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Where would Galvion fit in?
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>>14536708
Not sure about the universe ending but she's pretty tough. A self replicating, evolving army of super-drones so numerous that they can dyson-sphere an entire solar system? Is there any limit to how big or powerful diebuster can get?
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>>14536726
>Nah.
Sure thing buddy.
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>>14537123
Lorewise, Gunbuster is as powerful as Nono is. (perhaps even more.) It's not something necessarily shown in anime, but the original Gunbuster possessed that special reactor (I wanna say degeneracy?) and it's shown to be wiping out a fucking galaxy of space aliens like nothing.

Buster 7 should be lower, gunbuster should be higher.
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>>14537123
Shouldn't be above the Excelio Gravity Well.
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>>14539521
also give this guy a look over too
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>>14539521
>>14539544
Not happening.
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>>14539521
>Umineko at the top

It's already bullshit
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>>14539551

dang
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New update.

What else needs to be changed/added?
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>>14540746
>sdf-1 sharing a tier with iron giant and metal gears

The sdf-1 could blow up a million iron giants and a million metal gears with one shot. In fact even one of the smaller mecha it carries on board could defeat most of the stuff in that tier
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>>14540746
You are awful at this.
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>>14540746
Doraemon is not special tier you numbfuck. He is only at most universal tier 3D reality warper. He can't reality warp 4D or up to Infinite Dimension like Demonbaneverse.
Put Liber Legis higher than CA Superman. Liber Legis can regenerate itself either by simply regenerating or rewind time. CA Supes is dead.
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>>14540746
Seriously, you need to add Omnipotent tier above Nigh-Omnipotent and Above Omnipotent tier above it.
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>>14528340
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>>14540754
>metal gears
Metal Gear Rex can launch a nuclear warhead, which may be enough to destroy the SDF-1. Sahelanthropus pretty much is a nuke, and if it self-destructs in close proximity, it would have the same impact. As far as destructive capacity goes, it's not incorrect to have them in the same tier.
>iron giant
Far better close range mobility and has shown the capacity to destroy planets.

>>14540826
>Doraemon is not special tier you numbfuck. He is only at most universal tier 3D reality warper. He can't reality warp 4D or up to Infinite Dimension like Demonbaneverse.
Do you actually understand what the special tier is for?

>Put Liber Legis higher than CA Superman
It is. No need to be any higher because margins should be thin in that tier.

>>14540831
>Above Omnipotent
You're an idiot.
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This thread is a clear indication of autism on the highest level and spectrum.
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>>14540859
Rex might not able to punch through the pinpoint barrier.

On the other hand, I would actually put money on it tanking the Macross cannon if only because Rex was built like a brick shithouse above and beyond the norm for Gears.
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>>14540859
>Do you actually understand what the special tier is for?
Do you?
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>>14540859
Yes, if you are trying to do it correctly then you should add above omnipotent.
Consider this, omnipotent is what human perceive of a being with almighty infinite power. But most Nips fiction employs the setting where there exist a being above what human can perceives, those beyond infinite power.
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>>14540863
>(You) go into a hospital for autism people just to say that place is a place for a clear indication of autism on the highest level and spectrum.
Congrats, anon.
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>>14540870
You cannot defend against the Macross cannon using armor, it literally bends dimensions to fuck shit up.
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>>14540888
It's a brick shithouse, anon.

It can endure the elements, it can endure super dimension fuckery.
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>>14540887
Nice (You), faggot.
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>>14540906
Are you spic?
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>>14536366
That's what you get BillusPickus for ignoring other anons when they already said that you need to stop doing something you don't fully understand.
Now go back to Narutoforum there.
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>>14540870
It's still well above Rex, so I don't see anything to complain about. SDF-1 is not planet tier.

>>14540875
Characters who have powers that cannot be accurately assessed on a chart.

>>14540882
Above omnipotent is the same as saying above above all. Spare me your headcanons; the only people who believe in such a ridiculous concept are the types who read Lionel Suggs stories.
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>>14540938
Are you trying to imply I'm the one who made a narutoforums thread? I suggest you learn how to read.
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>>14540943
>Characters who have powers that cannot be accurately assessed on a chart.
Yes and if you can read my previous post, Doraemon is not special tier at all.

>>14540950
Not that guy but are you BillusPickus? Then just stay there BillusPickus.
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>>14540943
>ridiculous concept
I see that you never read varoius Nips literature.
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>>14540961
>Yes and if you can read my previous post, Doraemon is not special tier at all.
Do elaborate then, because you certainly didn't in this post: >>14540826

Poorly detailing what he can't do doesn't ascertain his placement on a power chart.

>Not that guy but are you BillusPickus? Then just stay there BillusPickus.
No, and I don't even know what you're talking about.
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>>14540963
I'm certainly not as experienced or autistic as a lot of people here are, but even then, japs don't dictate the meaning of the word omnipotent.

If a seemingly omnipotent character is defeated by a character using powers beyond human perception, then the former is not omnipotent. Again, spare me the suggs logic.
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>>14540973
>Do elaborate then
>Poorly detailing what he can't do doesn't
ascertain his placement on a power chart.
Yes, and how did (You) put Doreaemon on Special Tier?
This is why I hate newfaggata like you who can't into projective geometry. Why would you bother making a chart when you don't know a lot of stuff and act ignorant?
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>>14540984
>japs don't dictate the meaning of the word omnipotent
Neither do you.

>If a seemingly omnipotent character is defeated by a character using powers beyond human perception, then the former is not omnipotent.
Who said about defeating? For a being beyond human perception. The word or meaning of "defeat" doesn't exist at all. You are thinking this in a very humane mind
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>>14540986
Because Doraemon's power cannot be accurately assessed. This is further reinforced by your inability to prove otherwise with your idiotic replies. Sorry you weren't smart enough to back up anything you say.
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>>14540990
>Neither do you.
Nor do I claim to. The english language certainly does though.

>suggshit
Don't care.
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>>14540993
Read up infinity in projective geometry you dumb dumb. Holy shit why are you so dumb you dumb dumb. Now read up about the extent of Doraemon 4D pocket. It is fucking 4D you dumb.
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>>14541005
No interest in appeasing underagers like yourself, apologies.
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>>14540993
>Because Doraemon's power cannot be accurately assessed
>Waah I am too stupid, let's put everyting into special tier
(You)
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>>14541008
Why are you telling me about your life story now? Aren't we discussing about Doraemon?
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>>14541010
You sound pretty upset.
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>>14528340
Where is that omnipotent aquarion again?
Make a new row above nigh-omnipotent so you put Aquarion on it along with Demonbane EG.
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>>14540933
No, but I know who (You) are.
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>>14541023
Refer to >>14540746

Nobody has accurately detailed with evidence the full extent of Aquarion's powers yet.
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>>14541008
Not that anon but is this even an English word?
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>>14541032
>Not that anon
Evidently not a native english speaker either.
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>>14541026
That doesn't mean Aquarion should be downgraded into special tier.
On all previous chart, Demonbane EG is always on top but here you downgraded it into special tier.
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>>14541042
Special Tier isn't a downgrade. I haven't even seen it on other charts.

As for EG Demonbane, I'll probably put him on the main chart next, but he's not omnipotent. I'm not sure there are any mecha that are truly omnipotent.
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>>14529842
SDF-1...
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>>14541051
> I haven't even seen it on other charts.
Are you blind, lazy or extremely uninformed?

>I'm not sure there are any mecha that are truly omnipotent
Yes. There is no omnipotent being in fiction that can screw your brain. They are just a fictional being afterall.
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>>14540746
Superman? Megaman?
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>>14541051
>I'm not sure there are any mecha that are truly omnipotent.
Please, you forgot about Full Possession Shulawga Sin and Aquarion Logos.
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>>14541086
>Are you blind, lazy or extremely uninformed?
I've seen a lot posted both on /m/ and /a/, and not once have I seen Aquarion at the top.

There's this >>14539521, but I think he only recently added it. It's hard to tell because it's an unorganized, terrible quality clusterfuck.

>omnipotent
This implies above all, which would be contradictory in the Demonbane verse, because there are numerous entities who are seemingly above all.
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>>14541051
True that, EGD looks like a nigh-omnipotent until he beat up Azathoth the supposedly true omnipotent being in his series. That makes EGD the true omnipotent and you need to update the chart accordingly.
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>>14541100
Azathoth is widely known as omnipotent both for western and japanese userbase.
Lesser and weaker Demonbane incarnation killed Azathoth.
Demonbane is now omnipotent, Azathoth has been proven not. There is no contradiction.
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>>14541096
I didn't forget, I'm just waiting for a logical explanation from someone who actually understands what omnipotence is. Meme images won't suffice.

For what it's worth, I'm very happy to admit I'm not nearly as knowledgable as many on /m/ are; this is why I'm constantly asking about what needs to be changed or added. If something is wrong, you're free to dispute it and I'll onlige. However, when it comes to seemingly omnipotent characters, I get autistic, so do provide a good explanation.
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>>14541103
>>14541105
>Azathoth is widely known as omnipotent both for western and japanese userbase.
Let's make something clear: the Lovecraft meta Azathoth is not the same as the Demonbane meta equivalent. Just because a jap author incorporates entities from other works into his own works doesn't mean he dictates their powerlevel from the original meta.

Secondly, from what I understand, Demonbane never killed Azathoth, just sealed him. If it can't kill Azathoth, it's not omnipotent.

Thirdly, the concept of Athleta Aeternum contradicts the idea of omnipotence. An omnipotent entity shouldn't need an infinite army of anything.
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>>14541119
>Let's make something clear: the Lovecraft meta Azathoth is not the same as the Demonbane meta equivalent. Just because a jap author incorporates entities from other works into his own works doesn't mean he dictates their powerlevel.
Argument accepted. They are not the same but the notion behind them is the same.
Refer to >>14530486 this is using the Japanese dictionary for omnipotent.

>Secondly, from what I understand
You EOP understand so little and with a knowledge from 2006, meanwhile we are living in 2016. I doubt you even played the VN yourself and you are here just parroting others.

>Demonbane never killed Azathoth, just sealed him. If it can't kill Azathoth, it's not omnipotent.
On 2012, Haganeya through his twiiter and the release of Nitroplus Official guidebook, supported with the recent release of Nitroplus Blaster fighting game and Haganeya answered on 2016 through twitter again, mentioned the most important information that is not accessible for EOP such as yourself. On there Demonbane "already Killed" Azathoth, the same omnipotent Azathoth from Zanma Taisei and Kishin Hishou.

>Thirdly, the concept of Athleta Aeternum contradicts the idea of omnipotence. An omnipotent entity shouldn't need an infinite army of anything.
Omnipotent being can either sneeze, blink or create an infinite army for lulz just because he can. Why should it be (You) who dictates what an omnipotent being from other fiction can and can't do?
Next time create your own fanfiction or dictionary about how omnipotent being should or should not behave or whatever stupid argument you will make next.
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>>14540859
>Metal Gear Rex can launch a nuclear warhead, which may be enough to destroy the SDF-1.

IMO a primitive weapon that is basically un-concentrated heat and radiation isn't going to trouble an alien space battleship very much.

>Sahelanthropus pretty much is a nuke, and if it self-destructs in close proximity,
>close proximity
>to a space ship
OK, how?

>iron giant has shown capacity to destroy planets.
A single iron giant? has it?

>>14540870
> I would actually put money on it tanking the Macross cannon if only because Rex was built like a brick shithouse

You would lose that money. A mecha vulnerable to small rocket launchers isn't going to tank a beam exponentially more powerful than every nuke on earth combined.
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>>14541135
Stop responding seriously to that autist.
Do you even bother to give human education to monkey on the zoo?
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>>14541133
>using the Japanese dictionary for omnipotent
Idiot.

>You EOP understand so little and with a knowledge from 2006, meanwhile we are living in 2016. I doubt you even played the VN yourself and you are here just parroting others.
So you're not actually going to address this?

>Haganeya through his twiiter
You're a joke. Twitter is entirely irrelevant; the chart is based solely on what takes place in fiction.

It was impossible for Elder God Demonbane to kill a sleeping Azathoth, so he sealed him in the Shining Trapezohedron. Unless you can prove otherwise, this serves as evidence Elder God Demonbane is not omnipotent.

>Why should it be (You)
Again, I never said I define omnipotence. If you weren't stupid and were capable of reading a dictionary, you'd know I'm simply abiding by the literal definition.
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>>14541135
>IMO a primitive weapon that is basically un-concentrated heat and radiation isn't going to trouble an alien space battleship very much.
Are you sure?

>OK, how?
You're assuming a battle would take place with the SDF in space and the Metal Gear on land.

>A single iron giant? has it?
You got me there; I'll probably lower it. The Iron Giant still has a sizeable mobility advantage though, and it's main cannon has the destructive capacity of a nuke.
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>>14540746
Where is Strike Freedom and the Archangel?
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Demonbane went to shit after they left that island.
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>>14541169
>Are you sure?

Yes. Nukes are insignificant compared to the conditions in deep space. Something like the macross would be so hardened against heat and radiation They'd probably barely notice it even without the barrier.

Even on land the idea of a metal gear getting within 100 miles of the sdf-1 is ridiculous. It's like trying to suicide bomb an aircraft carrier with a zodiac.
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>>14540746
that isn't Great Mazinger
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>>14541135
>A mecha vulnerable to small rocket launchers

The only MANPADS-vulnerable part was the radome (and the fleshy pilot inside), and only because its designer had this romantic idea of what a superweapon should be (design flaws are the hallmark of any good giant robot, thanks Otacon!).

The testament to Rex's construction is that years later, having been neglected in a run down base in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness, and having had its eyes essentially torn out and its cockpit rammed with several missiles, it's not only still combat capable without needing repairs but also able to take on AND DEFEAT a Gear designed explicitly to shit on Rex and its derivatives.

Literally a brick shithouse.
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>>14528340
The mech from Bokurano: Ours needs to go up.
I'd also argue for putting Killy with the GBE in there.
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>>14539521
>Kiss Shot lower than Koro-Sensei
I see you grabbed the one that was made wrong as a joke
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>>14541158
Do you even still have a brain or eyes?
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>>14541158
>Japs dictionary of omnipotent is wrong. My dictionary is correct
wew
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OP is BillusPickus and OP is retard. I bet >>14541158 is OP.
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Why are people saying Iron Giant is a planet buster? It was from a GROUP of them doing it in a deleted scene and its not canon regardless.
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>>14541809
You sound really butthurt.
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>>14542421
To be fair, his main weapon is as powerful as a nuke, so he could probably wipe the population.
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Power Levels. Not even once.
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>>14543245
Nuking a city vs blowing up a planet involves ORDERS of magnitude of exponentially greater power.
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>>14543442
Joke tier.
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>>14544935
>Granzon that high
>Big O that low

hah.
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>>14544935
Layzner?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QERKbyP2T60
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>>14540984

While omnipotent can mean infinite power and is often used to do so, it can also mean simply great power, not unlimited power. If you're going by the dictionary and literal definition, since you've mentioned it a few times now.
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>>14544935
Why is Megaman.EXE so high?
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>>14545685
Why can't I stop listening to this?

>>14545722
Bug Style and Hub Form basically make him a god.
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>>14545643
What about it?
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>>14544935
SRW's own canon only acknowledges Neo Granzon as being comparable to a miniature Super Nova.

And Granzon is weaker than Neo Granzon.

Please refrain from being retarded.
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>>14545716
Going into that further, the notion of omnipotence is widely considered a logical fallacy.
Using it as a basis of an argument is an absurd notion.
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>>14545959
He's not going to refrain from being retarded because he doesn't know jackshit about this stuff and he's just adjusting the chart based off popular opinion telling him where to put unit on the rankings.
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>>14545981
Powerlevelz discussions and communities are a goddamn anomaly to me.

They always attract people who have never had any exposure to what it is they're talking about.
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>>14528340
I think STTGL needs to be higher. Super Gurren Lagann had temporal abilities that allowed it to punch every single moment of time at once, which is pretty fucking OP.

TTGL is stronger than that and STTGL is even stronger than that. Can't remember correctly but I'm pretty sure it has some multiversal abilities as well?

It should at least be in near omnipotent tier.
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I'd just complain that the chart is nigh unreadable. I know what a lot of the units are because I can recognize their portraits, but the actual text is incomprehensible it's so blurry if you zoom in at all. The potraits aren't much clearer and I only know what Getter Empreror is because I know it has to be there, rather than because I can recognize the picture or read it's text.
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>>14545996
There's nothing multiversal in TTGL.
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>>14544935
This chart is terrible.
There has to be a better way of doing this.
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>>14546253
Powerlevel charts are dumb because powerlevels aren't necessarily linear, (unless you work it on something like total energy output, which is objective and useless because it doesn't say what it actually does with its wanked up numbers)

For example, the Death Star's main feat of vaporising a planet in a handful of seconds is more impressive than half the shit this chart puts in the same tier as it. In fact I doubt half the shit above it, but below the very highest levels, would survive a hit from its Superlaser, though the Death Star I needs a moon sized target and II can only seem to hit targets as small as a Star Wars sized captial ship. As well as that I think you could make an extremely strong case that its single weak spot means that anything in the low tier that happens to have missles could destory it if it was piloted by a jedi, newtype or other type of main character. Even something low tier but with from a setting with better guidance on its missiles than Star Wars could do it. The current or near future US military could probably throw something together that would have an alright shot at killing the first Death Star.

The death star makes powerlevels loop around into a circle.
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>>14546133
What about the thief dimension where Kamina's ghost showed up? Or was that just all a psychic illusion?
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>>14544935
>Tobikage

Elaborate
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>>14546746
Yes
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>>14544935
>Sahelanthropus
>above REX

Are we basing this on the assumption that metallic archaea is a strong enough counter against other mechs? Because the consensus has been that, beyond having a lot of bleeding edge technology that does in a vacuum come off as more advanced than what's seen in later Gears, ST-84 is undermined by the sheer fact that it's an unpilotable mess of 80's technology.

It's 20 years ahead of its time, and suffers greatly as a result.

Also turning yourself into a walking nuclear explosive pales in comparison to punting a nuclear warhead from anywhere on the planet, to anywhere on the planet. Besides, enriching depleted uranium doesn't give you a whole lot of u-235 to work with anyway, the resulting suicide attack would be a wet fart compared to a fully fledged uranium bomb.
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>>14545959
Granzon entry encompasses Neo-Granzon. You'd realize this if you'd used your brain.
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>>14547291

Don't forget that with the limiter off MG Rex goes full Armored Core
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>>14547507
May as well replace STTGL with Lagann, in that case.

Or Shin Getter with the Eagle Unit.
Or Genesic GaoGaiGar with Galeon.
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>>14547248
It isn't.
He's just being retarded.
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>>14544935
>Numidium
>Universe tier
I am pretty sure the Numidium was created to fuck with reality with the dwemer, and his activation with a subpar powersource fucked up the time-continium.
I think it deserves to be in the nigh-omnipotent tier
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>>14547803
He's probably basing it off what some dude said in that Naruto powerlevel forum. Which seems to be based on things that happen in SRW.
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>>14547877
>Which seems to be based on things that happen in SRW.

I refuse to believe that there are people stupid enough to do this.
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>>14547798
Not everything needs to be tailored for your tiny brain. Anyone with a grain of intelligence would know Granzon in Universe-tier means it's referring to neo. Same applies to Cybuster being in possession mode.
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>>14546746
>Or was that just all a psychic illusion?
That
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>>14547912
The size of my brain has nothing to do with your backpedaling and your inconsistent logic.
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>>14546746

I believe the Anti-Spiral's ships were from another dimension and Arc Gurren Lagann (or whatever form it had when they initially went to space) punched one of them back in to its own dimension or something. I distinctly recall space "cracking" as it punched one. Them being from another dimension would certainly explain why the ships had such a different physical design and very obvious 3D modelling was used to render them, so their alien-ness would be apparent.
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>>14547928
No backpedalling to speak of, you just weren't smart enough to grasp something rather obvious.
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Here's the .psd file if anyone's interested:

https://www.mediafire.com/?fyz2z2y1xgw175i
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>>14547997
You mean an inconsistency on your own part.
After all, Granzon's representation is the exception in your own chart, not the rule.
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>>14548001
and Nono, and Cybuster, and Ideon, and MegaMan, among several others. A lot of the placements are based on the mech's most powerful state; again, if you were smart, you'd have realized that.

Another thing you'd have realized if you were smart is that it's a work in progress, and not everything is perfect. It's also a linear power chart, so it never really will be perfect. Then again, you're clearly not smart.
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>>14546728
Fucking this.
The very concept of power levels only works in battle shounen where EVERYONE uses the same powers and techniques.
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>>14548090
Doraemon is not a magic user. Even if the technology he uses seems like magic it is not magic within the fiction of the show which I think is an important distinction. Reality warper maybe.
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>>14548095
Pretty sure these charts just measure destructive capacity.
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>>14548307
What makes you think that's any more specific?
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>>14548090
Fuck off already dude. no one care about your shit.
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>>14548014
If you were smart, you will cease immediately. But both of us know that's not the case.
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>>14548312
It's pretty easy to distinguish mechs that can destroy planets from ones that can barely destroy a city.
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>>14548471
And what if that mech that can't even destroy a city has a very odd and highly specific weapon that the planet destroying mech has no defense or countermeasure against?
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>>14548476
Nothing changes, it stays in the lower tier.

Again, the charts don't measure who can beat what, they measure who can cause the largest scale of damage.
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Why is Neo Granzon in roughly the same tier as Getter Emperor when the most it can manage is destroying black holes?
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>>14548090
Why isn't Eva 01 higher?
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>>14548500

Then why are the RX-78-2, Zeta and Nu so high while the VF-1 is on the very bottom rung? Variable fighters all have the capacity to carry anti matter missiles far more destructive than anything those units can do.

And no, the Nu can't destroy Axis, since it was only because of proximity to the Sazabi's cockpit that it could do that, not because it was inherently capable of it. Even Unicorn can't do that alone and needed the Banshee's help to block the colony laser and Marida's to give Banager the power to sweep fleets aside. Interviews confirm it as the intention even if you for some reason doubt it.
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>>14549168
Because it's a work in progress and not everything is 100% correct? This is why you're encouraged to make suggestions.
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>>14549244

Raiden seems misplaced too given he basically cuts stuff real good in that case. Devil Gundam also has no place being in Country tier given that he had taken over all of the Eathspere using tentacles he was launching from a colony in the finale of G.

And if Turn-A is planetary scale for being able to launch a load of nanomachines that can eat all tech, the SDF is probably planetary tier since it could just hit a planet with several Macross canon blasts to wipe out everything on the surface. It might take a few hours or days, but it could certainly do it even if it took time, and the Moonlight Butterfly could be just as slow for all we know.

The various Mazin machines could probably destroy a large object like Axis using Rust Hurricane, Breast Fire or their equivalent too.
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>>14549265
>The various Mazin machines could probably destroy a large object

IIRC mazinger Z would run out of power before destroying anything big. I doubt it could wreck anything large like a city
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The vf-1 valkyrie, or more specifically its loadout of six reaction warheads is far more powerful than any metal gear. Extreme mobility lets it run rings around 95% of mecha too.
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>>14534843
Shiranui units should be way above Scopedog. They're far bigger.
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Why does /m/ keep hyping up Valkyries as multiverse-obliterating super robots? The antimatter missiles everyone wank so furiously never did much more than poke holes in zentraedi ships.
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>>14551376

They don't. Nice exaggeration though. All anyone did was point out that an ability to carry and launch antimatter weapons as standard gives it more destructive capability than the RX-78-2, Mark II, Zeta or Nu which were all place higher than it when destructive capability is apparently the deciding factor. Pointing out that it can use them doesn't make it an attempt to paint them as anything close to what you said.
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>>14551412
Gundams are much much bigger
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>>14551412
But the missiles aren't all that destructive.
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New update.

Remember to make suggestions.
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>>14553640
Fix Great Mazinger, the picture as of right now is just Mazinger Z with the Scrander on.
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>>14553368
>the missiles aren't all that destructive.

Are you confusing the regular missiles with reaction ones? because the reaction weapons are basically nukes on antimatter steroids for destroying capital ships several miles long.
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>>14553205

Not really, the Gundam is 18 meters to the Valkyrie's 12.. That's not much, much bigger. Size also has nothing to do with destructive capability.
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>>14553640
Hi-Nu, Tallgeese III, and the Tomahawk are up too high,
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>>14553777

Tallgeese III i can understand since it's mega beam cannon can destroy miles long asteroids in one go. I'd think Wing Zero should be there since its gun is stronger and has blown up colonies, of Double X since its cannon is stronger still but I can at least understand why it's there. Hi-Nu I have no idea what it's doing there.
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>>14553640
Why are the Gundam ships even on there? The Ra Cailum is just used as a MS carrier and doesn't much in the way of weaponry or defense itself. I guess you could sort of argue for the Argama's megaparticle cannons despite their lack of effectiveness in combat and its primary use as just a MS carrier.
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>>14553984
Could a Mobile Suit beat either of those ships in a 1v1?
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>>14554002
It would be easy for the MS to destroy either ship if the ship doesn't have its own MS escort .
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>>14553640
>Daitarn lower than Getter Robo
>Tobikage that high
>Logos not at least universe tier
>Neo Granzon has the wrong picture
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Zandacross?
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>>14554012
No it wouldn't.
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>>14556774

MS destroy ships single handed regularly in just about every Gundam show. G, and Turn-A are probably the exceptions, and only because neither has ships as a regular thing. The Argama and Ra Calium have no special defenses that make them extra hard for a suit to take out.
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>>14536366
Anime forums, that one especially, suck

The chart sucks too, but holy shit those forums are full of spamming for name recognition, likes, and rank-ups, with all the cliquish infighting and intrigue that comes along with an identity-based discussion board.

Kindly leave and stop using edgy 4chan lingo on other sites
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>>14551412

When Valkryies launched them they always took out ships, normally ships that were one or two miles long and usually without even directly hitting them. SDF has stock footage of a Thurvel-Salan class ship which is one and a half miles long getting damaged and being rendered unresponsive from the nearby explosion of reaction weapons. It plays in the first episode when the ARM-D carrier launches a few of them and is what makes Britai and Exedol curious about humans in the first place. It also plays in episode 27 when Hikaru launches his reaction missiles at least, and probably a few other places too. The missiles shoot out and explode in it's vicinity, the explosions damaging the hull and leaving the ship a husk. Which is pretty good in space considering there's no atmospheric focusing to give a shockwave and the explosion is smaller.

When the Macross itself launches them it's over for their target. The few times they use them you see the target ship (always a big one) blister along the hull from impacts and explosions, then explode itself leaving nothing. That includes Boddole Zer's flagship in episode 27, which is the length/height of Japan at something like 1400 km. The Macross uses a Deadulus attack to break in, then fires off it's missiles and erects a pin point barrier (no Macross canon), with the mothership being taken out by the explosions and no traces of it left.
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>>14557321
Put the Strike Freedom in Special Tier as a "Divine Being" and "Holy Power" heh
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>>14557321
Put VFs in planet tier.
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>>14557321
Stop posting your autism chart.
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>>14557757
Do provide more context to that screencap.
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>>14557839
VFs can carry dimensional bombs powerful enough to leave massive craters on earth sized planets. http://macross.wikia.com/wiki/Dimension_Eater
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>>14557864
No they can't you fucking retard. They can equip MDEs, which aren't nearly strong enough to damage a planet on a large scale.
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>>14557989
Have you not been watching Macross Delta? VFs can drop dimensional bombs now that did exactly what you described.
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>>14557864
This doesn't apply to the SDF Macross meta though. I'll include one VF in planet tier but it doesn't mean they're all capable of it.
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>>14558042
Technically it does. All VFs can use wing mounted armaments. There's no real restriction. You could easily arm a VF-1 with dimensional weaponry.
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>>14558042
Just put a YF-29 or VF-31 in planet tier since they're the most advanced VFs at the moment.
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>>14558071
But Dimension Eaters didn't exist in the meta of the first Macross.

>>14558077
That's the plan.
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>>14558077
The ones we see using dimension weapons are the VF-25 and the VF-22 though.
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>>14558110
And technically the VF-27 and VF-171. It doesn't matter, there's no power requirements to load up ordinance. It's like with reaction missiles, all VFs can carry them. They're just bombs.
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>>14529787
>Arguing furiously about cartoons
>calls others autists

wew lad, you don't even know what this disorder is.
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>>14530329
>autists
>autists
>AUTISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i know that you have no arguments, but this is just embarassing.
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>>14528502
This
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Where's Goddard from Jimmy Neutron?
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>>14528502
>Kirby's Robobot
I'm now disappointed to learn it's the Nintendo marshmallow thing, and not that Jack Kirby made a giant robot.
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>>14529129
You know how the ending to Might Gaine was that Might Gaine destroyed the toy company that made it, thus ending the show in a meta way? Logos is like that, but in every episode. Logos is about making fun of writing. A bunch of weird meta stuff.
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>>14558152
Killl yourself autist
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