Godzilla/Shin Godzilla Thread #6: "It's Quality" Editon

does anyone have that picture of shin Godzilla in a sunflower field please

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Concept art.

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"The Man who Made Godzilla Fly"

Book on Itano Yoshimitsu's work on the Godzilla series (director of Godzilla VS Hedora)

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>>14522789
Looking for it anon.

Until then, here's this.

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So what's everyone expecting out of the Shin Chan special?

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How much screentime are we gonna see this time?

>>14522860
A new roar

hopefully

Not that I dislike Godzilla having his usual roar, but it seems like in the trailers it's not the proper one due to the way the same scene was edited. Something new to go along with his new design would be great.

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>>14522888
Jesus was his screentime really that small in 2014, I know it's a big complaint but is this really accurate?

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>>14522783
https://twitter.com/RollingPirahna/status/756070986491932672

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>>14522969

FUCK

That guy is in Singapore. But maybe it's a worldwide release date?

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>>14522969
oh jesus please

>>14522969
Oh Joy, here crossing for a widespread release.

>>14522943
I mean pretty much. I think there was a video of all the scenes with him in it and it was just about 6 minutes.

>>14522943
that's like the only time he uses his beam. We're 30 films in, the beam isn't a surprise....

>>14522888
Anno said around the same amount of time the monster had in Gojira. Hopefully that's adjusted for running time, as Resurgence will be 30 min longer than Gojira.

Now. People can finally stop defending Edwards' creative decisions in G14. Monster Zero gets away with it because it has awesome human characters and much more happening.

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>>14523125
man don't bother, 2014 fags keep defending that movie as 'artistic' and paying homage to the original with the abysmally low screentime and when cornered will tell you that it has 'about the same' as most Toho movies

>>14523130
Godzilla's screen time in 2014 is fine, it's the constant blue balling that's the problem.

>>14523130
>>14523136
G14 has one of the shortest amounts of screen time and, besides Final Wars, takes the longest amount of time for Godzilla to actually appear in the movie. Then the film has the audacity to tease until the very end. But even worse, he is an afterthought that could be easily removed from the film itself. And you wonder why people were upset. They may have not made all the connections. But they knew something was wrong.

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>>14523052
>>14522943
>>14523141

according to Lebbit he had about 10 min screentime in 2014 and that was counting shit like just his plates gliding above the water etc

Anno is clearly acting in defiance of Edwards for the sheer fact Godzilla is always fully visible and not hidden or obscured or hiding behind buildings or in smoke, you're forced to see him in entirety

I liked how in 2014 they built up his arrival and made it suspenseful, but God dammit the blueballs make it insulting and the suspense is a one time thing. I rewatched 2014 and it's one of those movies that really dip in quality the second go.

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>>14522969

Very nice.

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>>14523043
You Did (Not) Expect

I'm curious about what other decisions Anno might made on the fly like this. You never know with him. But for this particular choice, it's not that drastic and Prince was pretty cool.

>>14522810
What a great title.
He was an executive producer in the 2015 movie, right?

>>14522810
isn't his name Banno anymore?
Or are linking Itano with Banno?

>>14523207
Yeah it's Banno.

>>14523215

>Yoshimitsu Anno

Imagine it, /m/en. Imagine the possibilities.

>>14522807
Im colorblind, so is it purple or not?

>>14523271
If you're colorblind, why do you care?

Yes, it is.

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>>14522807
Anon...

>>14523307
Wouldn't Anno be on the emperor's side? Taking in consideration his right-wing ideas. About the Prince's comment, Anno is kinda a troll and didn't he say the Eva 01 was inspired by the Oni from Go Nagai's Shuten Doji?

Does anyone have that Godzilla evolution chart? It started out as Godzilla as I think small animals and then through a full evolution until you got Godzilla. Not the charts showing his size throughout the movies.

>>14523307
THE BEAM'S NOT PURPLE!! HIS MOUTH IS JUST GLOWING PURPLE BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE BEAM IS PURPLE RRRRRREEE I AM RIGHT

>>14523364

>giving people shit about some stupid semantic mistake

Holy fuck. Who gives a shit, seriously?

>>14523307
>>14523364
My fucking God, why is this community so autistic? Who cares what a literal nobody said?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Gl-6Wcn50

Some minor new stuff about halfway through

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>>14523596
We've come a long way since Final Wars. Just go back and watch the trailer for that film.

The feel and look of the new film is so cinematic. Heck, the cinematography rivals G14. And reviews have been positive thus far, so Resurgence might be one of the best entries in years.

>>14523167
First a Mortal Kombatant, now Godzilla. The man sure gets interesting ways to be immortalized.

>>14523632

One of my favorite things in there is the main guy mouthing off while who I'm assuming is his subordinate is staring daggers at him. Such a great little moment.

>>14523632

It's actually sort of interesting to compare how this looks to G14. Both kinda inhabit the same ballpark but at the same time go in totally different directions. G14 has really slick, almost fantasy-like colors, while this has this weird sort of harsh feel to it, almost like the characters' unease is literally coloring the movie.

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http://eiga.com/movie/81507/

>4.2 out of 5

Edwards on fucking suicide watch

>>14523664
>http://eiga.com/movie/81507/

To be fair, BvS got pretty good early buzz too, and look how that turned out.

I'm hyped like everyone else, but c'mon, we're still over a week away from when I'm assuming most critics are gonna be able to see it.

>>14523664

>two 5 star user ratings

>one .5 star user rating

Hoo boy, this is gonna be a divisive one isn't it

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I still don't know why glorious Nippon isn't marketing this larger to the burgers. We liked G14, certainly more than PRim or Cloverfield. As long as they made it clear in every trailer "FROM HIS ORIGINAL HOME IN JAPAN" and rubbed that in every moviegoers face, it could be successful. Just make it clear this is from Japan land, and the rest would fall into place.
>tfw me, the old man, my uncle, and some other couple were the only people in the cinema for 2000.

>>14523676
Fampai, Goji is a corpse with a tail bigger than his body. We knew it would be a split as soon as we saw the big man himself.

>>14523676
Hideaki Anno has been polarizing since Neon Genesis Evangelion. Unless it's something obscure, like his live-action stuff, he seems to have been causing sharp divides on everything he has touched since his grim tale of robots, kids, and monsters. Nevertheless, it's almost guaranteed to be interesting and spark endless discussion.

>>14523678
Toho probably isn't marketing Shin Goji because of Godzilla 2000. Goji2k didn't do so well in the box offices here in the states and Toho has been wary of releasing a Godzilla film theatrically ever since.

>>14523678
Maybe they're just cautious, fearing that a large buzz would just attract more of the "looks like a syfy movie lol jap cinema sucks XD" crowd and give the brand as a whole bad publicity, and are instead aiming for a more limited release targeted at fans and the more level-headed folk who would genuinely be interested? G2000 was confusing enough, and I'm sure they want to avoid accidentally torpedoing the new planned American continuity.

I mean, the fact that they're even selling the film to so many areas seems to show that Toho and their distributors have confidence. On the other hand, maybe they're not really planning a huge promotional push, and simply want to profit from minimal incomes from all those foreign markets? Lets face it, this movie has a very limited mass appeal in a world where most plebs can't think outside the boundaries of high-budget murican CGI shitfests, so perhaps a less expansive marketing is actually beneficial, as long as it reaches their intended target audience.

But who knows, maybe they'll shift gears once they see how Japan reacts.

>>14523678
This Godzilla doesn't seem anywhere near as action oriented as the U.S. one was, nor does it have the U.S. military wank that Burgerzilla had.

>>14523710
>Goji2k didn't do so well in the box offices here in the states
it barely got released here, too
I was fortunate to be in a city that had it for a convention the weekend it came out so I got to see it.

>>14523710
Actually, Godzilla 2000 did well enough that the writer of the dub was able to pitch an American made sequel "Godzilla Reborn" to be directed by Joe Dante with the intention of casting Bruce Campbell, Christopher Lee and Leonard Nimoy in various roles. Story would have been Godzilla going to Hawaii (a science conference in Honolulu occurring at the same time) and actually getting KO'd by the military, only for a giant lava bat kaiju named Miba to rise from Mount Kilauea, resulting in the need to get Godzilla back up on his feet to fight it. Toho would have done the special effects.

It got cancelled because Sony executives were getting flipped around and the new guys weren't interested in greenlighting a new Godzilla movies, even one with a small 20 million dollar budget.

>>14523715
>Military wank
>Got rekt and cocked up everything they did in the film.

>>14523731
>Bruce Campbell, Christopher Lee and Leonard Nimoy in various roles
At least, having the Rock show up in the upcoming Rampage movie will almost make up for this.

>>14523735
If the movie stars a Military oriented protagonist, it's a Military Wank.

>>14523670
Yeah, it had good early twitter reactions and stuff like that. The first reviews were terrible.
Shin has 3 actual reviews sating that it's great.

>>14523739
That's tucking stupid.

>>14523715
>military wank
Nearly half of the problems where caused by them in the movie

>>14523130
How does the opening scene of Final Wars only count as a tease? We get full head and head-to-toe shots of Godzilla in the very first scene of the movie, the Gotengo fight.

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>>14523748
>>14523755
Isn't Anno from the Japanese right wing with a nostalgia for the Empire?

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>>14523731
Missed opportunity. Popular American icons and Toho practical effects with more time/money to perfect the craft. Would have made money.

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>>14523739

>Apocalypse Now

>MGS2

>All Quiet On The Western Front

>Dr. Strangelove

>Fires on the Plain

>Gundam freaking 0080

>military wank

>>14523793

He probably jerks it over the military aesthetics, but judging by the honestly sort of paranoid worldview implied by Eva, i doubt he trusts the human race as a whole with something like that. He seems fairly apolitical.

>>14523793
I doubt that'd be a heavy influence on his movie making. I bet he just likes to see people and things get smashed.

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>>14523832
>paranoid worldview implied by Eva
Staple of the far right. Jews are fond of accusing Steele as anti-semitic.

Pessimism towards both government and their people is the nature of right wing thought, why the focus is on preparation and conservation, not the left's inward looking progress towards utopia enabled by a (possibly false) sense of security.

>>14523843
Anno's work, and a Gainax as a whole, is mostly character driven with universal leaning themes but there is still a lot of political content in Gun/Diebuster, Royal Space Force and especially Evangelion. Godzilla itself is a political metaphor and will always pose a choice on its representation of the military and civil services, I don't think Anno would just ignore that.

>>14523909
Is Anno really on the far right? I know he's an older man so he'd tend towards more conservative leaning but is he really more than that?

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>>14523909
If the rumors are true, does that suggest Anno isn't fond of American intervention in Japanese issues?

>>14523927
that's what this movie deals with, it's not so unfounded to think so

>>14523927
Many nips aren't happy with the American intervention but after the 60s student movement, most nips followed the national motto, it can't be helped, and learn to live with their condition as an US colony

>>14523927
Japan won WW2 on the Eva universe

>best buds with miyazaki

>far right

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>>14523929
>>14523930
>>14523932

I wonder how such sentiment might impact the film's appeal in the United States and Asian countries like China and South Korea. Some of Japan's neighbors are still bitter about the treatment they received at the hands of the Japanese during WWII. Guess it depends on how the film handles the matter.

>>14523920
I don't know anything about Anno's political beliefs. The political content always takes such a strong backseat in his work I think it'd be unfair to characterize him based on that rather than whatever he says himself in his interviews. But if I had to guess, I think he leans towards nationalism at the very least based on the way he depicts Japan's foreign politics in NGE, especially Rebuild 2.0

>>14523950
Miyazaki admits Anno is talented but he doesn't approved everything he does. That's why Miya-san never let Anno to touch Nausicaa, no matter how much Anno insisted.

>>14523952
Considering the original Godzilla was conceived by Japan's butthurt for the nukes and the ocupation, it shouldn't be a big deal unless the characters suddenly start praising the emperor and raping Chinese girls

>>14523963

Honestly, this feels more like an eastern collectivism thing rather than a right vs left thing. I mean, a lot of the hallmarks you claim are emblamatic od right wing thought have been present in left wing thinking too. The left has had plenty of its own conspiracy theorists, anti-utopians and pessimists.

>>14523952
>Some of Japan's neighbors are still bitter about the treatment they received at the hands of the Japanese during WWII.
Modern day Chinese nationalism (Taiwanese nationalism is a different story) is largely fueled by government propaganda designed to demonize Japan, same with S. Korea.
The way I see it, Japan is like that one abusive ex that has long since moved on and all but forgotten about them, but they're still obsessed with him despite desperately claiming not to be. They define significant parts of their lives around how shitty their ex was, and is all they rant about when they get a little alcohol in them.

>>14523932
Japan got fucked hard by Second Impact and nuked in 2001 in the Eva universe.

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>>14523971
Ishiro Honda doesn't blame explicitly blame anyone though. Not that he could anyway with American occupation and censorship. But even then I doubt he would have. Remember, he criticized Kazuki Omori for Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah.

Gojira was more about the potential for destruction all humans have and the horrors of war/nuclear weapons and reckless ambition.

>>14523963
> Miyazaki admits Anno is talented but he doesn't approved everything he does.

Is it the fanservice?

And what about this?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-08-22/hayao-miyazaki-open-to-nausicaa-film-sequel-by-evangelion-anno

Seems Miyazaki didn't have a problem with Anno touching his work.

>>14523991
The entire world got fucked hard by the Second Impact, not only Japan. Besides, the Seele guys were amoral bastards so they did some evil stuff

>>14523997
>Seems Miyazaki didn't have a problem with Anno touching his work.
Actually, that's a funny story. Miyazaki thought he was dying after going to the hospital so he made a phone call to Anno for giving him the greenlight for the Nausicaa sequel. But then Miyazaki got better...

True story

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>>14523963
>>14524007

Somewhat related. An interesting story from Toshio Suzuki:

"When Neon Genesis Evangelion aired in 1995, I was very happy that it was an instant hit. When Hayao saw the Evas, he said, “Those are God Warriors.” I thought so too. Last year, during the Hideaki Anno exhibit at the Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Modern Art, I wrote that “The origins of Eva are Ultraman and the God Warrior.” We made a special tokusatsu short for the exhibit called “The God Warriors Appears in Tokyo”, in which God Warriors destroy Tokyo.

When I meet Anno, he sometimes tells me that he wants to create a sequel to Nausicaa. According to him, he considers Evangelion a continuation of Nausicaa, done in his own way. It’s amazing how much he was influenced by Nausicaa. Those short three months he spent at our office ended up defining everything about him."

>>14523755
>Half of the problems
The only thing they messed up was the nuke train though.

>>14524239
And you know, waking up the giant fucking lizard. But that's an afterthought, or so I've heard :^).

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It's going to be nice to see the JSDF in action again and failing.

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>>14524321
I'm getting some serious Neo Ranga vibes from these clips.

Seeing as kickass torrents is gone now, what site will the eventual Shin Goji torrent end up on?

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>>14524321
it's almost shot for shot from Eva, but I guess that just brings things full circle

>>14524257
When the fuck did they wake up Godzilla?

>>14524450
I'm just excepting a Cross explosion at this point.

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>screen time autism
>"military wank"
>rationalizing why it's okay when Japan pulls the same shit in their movies

This fandom is fucking cancer. Absolutely no self awareness.

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>>14524698
>Using the term fandom.
No, you are the cancer. And Japan's excuse was their lack of a normal military during the Showa era films. It was a sort of pride of nation, to have those bomb-ass laser tanks and what have you.

>>14524722
Maguma shut the fuck up, your opinion doesn't mean shit

>>14524809
>tfw the shrimp is more relevant than you.
;_;

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>>14524722
You're as bitter as the TK users right now.

>>14524698
>frogfaggot calling things cancer

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>>14524811
>Tfw you thought it was a lobster as a kid.

>>14524829
It was while watching that one that I learned what an oxymoron was. The Old Man's example was a jumbo shrimp, hence the Ebirah.

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>>14524811
>a fucking shrimp get's to be in both versions of it's debut movie and you get cut from the american version

being maguma is suffering

https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/756305496710209536

>JUST ANNOUNCED -- Shin Godzilla, co-directed by legends Hideki Anno and Shinji Higuchi! #ShinGodzilla #SDCC2016

>>14524891
Well what else was Godzilla gonna fight in Godzilla versus the Sea Monster?

>>14524908
So it'll be at least 2020 before it comes out on bluray/dvd here?

>>14523997
>Is it the fanservice?

No, he disliked Eva's themes and found the whole work to be too masturbatory and hopelessly depressing. He thought it was well-made, but compared the substance to a "back alley driveway".

>And what about this?
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-08-22/hayao-miyazaki-open-to-nausicaa-film-sequel-by-evangelion-anno

He said in that same announcement that Anno can do whatever the hell he wants, he was too old to care anymore. Anno himself doesn't even want to make a Nausicaa sequel, he just wanted to make a spin-off with Kushana killing people, and that was back in the early 90s. He even said himself in that recent "Anime has 5 years left" Russian interview that he doesn't have any desire to make it anymore.

>>14524908
If I can't see it legally before New Years, I'm just weighing anchor. Fuck waiting until the next burgerzilla comes out, I need Goji produced in the homeland.

>>14523814
>MGS2
i love you anon

>>14524911
A giant condor!

>>14524911
Godzilla wasn't even meant to be Ebirahs opponent

Godzilla just happened to replace King Kong cuz reasons

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>>14524950
>Giant Condor gets to be in two movies, even if the second time was just reusing an old scene
>Maguma gets scrapped form any appearances he was planned on being in

Maguma truly is suffering

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>>14524950
Some kinda
GIANT BIRD?

>>14524969
This looks like a job for SHOWA GAMERA

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STOP TOUCHING ME YOU FILTHY JAPANESE TYCOON

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>>14524934
> Anno himself doesn't even want to make a Nausicaa sequel, he just wanted to make a spin-off with Kushana killing people, and that was back in the early 90s.
Wasn't about Kushana, though Anno did make a Nausicca spin-off: "The God Warriors Appears in Tokyo".

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Anno and Miyazaki must have an interesting dynamic.

Funimation is in charge of the North American release

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2016/07/21/exclusive-funimation-licenses-godzilla-resurgence/

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>>14525131
>Funimation

Whi do you want to see handle the American sequel?
I'd like to see John Carpenter, or Sam Raimi.

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>>14525100
>>14525119

According to Toshio Suzuki, Miyazaki hired Anno on the spot and supported him early on. Allegedly, Miyazaki was very impressed by Anno's talent. Anno was homeless before joining the Nausicca production team. His life consisted of drawing and working. He lived at work. I'm sure the two grew very close over the years.

>>14525142
Agreed on Sam Raimi. Would fucking love to see his take on Ghidorah.

Oz was a mediocre movie, but one of the things that did stick in my mind was that scene where the full evil Witch of the West slams into the castle square in a fireball and you see her silhouette flickering in the flames before she materializes. Would love to see that applied to a modern take on Ghidorah's "emerging from fire" entrance.

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So was Zilla female or a hermaphrodite?
Maybe she got like komodo dragon breeding powers, or it really was able to self-fertilize?
Wasn't it literally a mutated marine iguana?

Just imagine if we got that planned sequel where it fought another monster, I wonder if that would've helped its reputation.

>>14525142

God Sam Raimi is actually kinda a great pic for Godzilla 2. They'll probably give it to the John Roberts guy if Kong does well. They'll want to play it up like he has some control over the "trilogy" of KK, G2, and KKvG.

>>14525192
I think it came from how certain reptiles self fertilize when its unable to find a mate; which kinda explains baby godzilla/godzilla jr.

>>14525192
Matthew Broderick did say "HE'S pregnant."

>>14525182
>>14525200
Raimi would go full Showa and you know it. Alien invaders in 60s mod fashion, wild monster designs with ridiculous weapons, plucky heroes who have no business fending off giant monsters, the whole shebang. He'd do something exactly as kooky as Godzilla vs. Gigan and only halfway make a joke out of it. Sam Raimi lives for that shit.

I would love it. You might love it. Raimi fans might love it. But I don't think the mainstream would love it and I don't think the average Godzilla fan would. Ryuhei Kitramura worships Sam Raimi to the point where he basically started his career with an action movie version of Evil Dead, and look how reactions were to his Godzilla movie.

>>14525192
>>14525222
That, plus the cartoon referred to him as Jr's father, if I recall correctly.

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>>14525131
>>14524908

Didn't Warner Brothers have right of first refusal?

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>>14525142
Nolan

>>14525272
Doesn't he have his eyes on Bond?

There's always Quentin Tarantino. He's a fan of kaiju films.

>>14525267
>The 29th Godzilla film produced by Toho and the 32nd in the franchise
Is there a third American one that I'm unaware of?

>>14525272

As much as I like Nolan, i dont think godzilla would be a good fit for him. It'd be like Michael Mann doing NGE

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>>14525284
Maybe this?

>>14525302

really went to town with alliteration in that copy.

>>14525142
Considering how often El Rey plays Godzilla marathons, I'm pretty sure that Robert Rodriguez would do it for $0. He's certainly a long-time fan of monsters and sci-fi schlock.

James Cameron world be a great choice, especially if they wanted to actually make a billion dollars on it, but I don't think he would actually take the job now. I think if you could take a time machine to the pre-Titanic days he would have, though.

Jon Favreau has a bit of a spotty record, but...I mean, Iron Man. Could work...

>>14525316
Favreau's Jungle Book was pretty good too.

>>14525334
Fuck, even Zathura was fun despite being Jumanji IN SPACE.

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REMINDER: pic related is happening today
"It's Shinnosuke vs. Godzilla Resurgence!"

7:30 PM JST on July 22, 2016

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im shilling this again
its a compilation of godzilla and other kaiju fight scenes

http://mega.co.nz/#!ThBHGIgA!P_nsxYNq4ZwIt81-S_sqGe3ezlnWNmrC-kQokjA8hRs

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>>14525630

Thanks famalam

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>>14524908
http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2016/07/21/exclusive-funimation-licenses-godzilla-resurgence/
>Plans call for GODZILLA RESURGENCE to be released in late 2016, exact dates TBA.

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>>14525670
Lel watch it be December 31st.
That's still better than I though we'd get, so hell yes.

>>14525192
>>14525192
>komodo dragon breeding powers

parthenogenesis

>>14525670
>funi
Fucking dropped, I rather import the nip bd and waste a $30 on shipping alone than give a single penny to those jews. Also they always fuck up their subs.

>>14525759

Tell me more, anon.

How does Shin Goji hug?

>>14525805

He doesn't, he can never give hugs.

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>>14525805
He wraps you up in his tail, like an elephant trunk.

>>14525792
I've been waiting for this day!

>funi gets Godzilla for the Americas

Who does it for the UK? WHO?

I swear to fuck this had better get a cinema release over here.

>>14525670
Brain dead here, So does that mean it's going to be a mass release, or just with the 23 NA locations?

>>14525910
More than likely just a limited release.

>>14525910
They haven't announced anything in regards to dates and locations.

>>14525913
Welp, I'm glad I didn't get on the Hype Train then.

>>14525919
I wouldn't count it out yet. There is probably a good chance you will be able to see it unless you live in bumfuck nowhere.

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>>14525922
>"unless you live in bumfuck nowhere"

>>14525670
Did WB pass on distribution rights? I thought I heard they had right of first refusal. We're they afraid of brand confusion or didn't think the film was strong enough for a wide release?

>>14525933
Most likely saw it as to much of a risk for themselves to handle it.

Not only would people think this is the "Sequel" to G14, but if the movie sucks, then that could ruin their future plans.

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>>14523731
This sounds so memetastic I doubt its authenticity.
And yet its real.

>>14525934
I know that's a somewhat legitimate concern. But Sony, while still planning to continue their own trilogy, dubbed and gave Godzilla 2000 a pretty decent sized theatrical run. It wasn't a huge success. But it was definitely profitable, especially after factoring in home video and television rights. Maybe it was atonement?

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>>14525925
Whoops

>tfw don't know how true the biogodzilla stuff was
>tfw wanted it to be real because of how stupid in a good way it sounded

>>14525943
It would be fine if it was the "Toho approach', where most of the time films weren't directly connected to each other, and risk of confusion was low.

Now that LP's Godzilla is becoming a "Franchise", and being connecting with Skull Island, the risk of confusion with another "separate" film being released by the same studio is to high.
Like I said above, in the event that Shin Godzilla is awful, I don't think WB wants to have the movie attached to their name, just in case.

>>14525954
Wtf is a Biozilla?

>>14525934
Skull Island might sink the ship first. Besides Edwards' departure, I think part of the reason Godzilla 2 was pushed back was because the series is on unstable grounds. If it doesn't take off, losses are minimized.

Same thing happened with Sony's Godzilla. The original director dropped out and the film kept getting delayed until it was cancelled. Let's not kid ourselves. G14 made money. But it was hardly anything to brag too much about.

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>>14525954
>Judas was apparently a popular idea, despite being fake.
>Still no fan art exist of it, despite of how autistic the fans of Godzilla can be.
>Morbid curiosity sets in.

>>14525967
That's why I'm hoping SI does well. I've discussed the idea of "What if it fails" on a few boards and the only reaction I get is negative replies and "Here's why you're wrong" type of bullshit.

I just can't see SI doing well unless they brought in something to place people in seats. Kong is a known name like Godzilla, but Kong seems to have the worst end of the stick considering that he should have "Hometown advantage", and all I've seen containing mention of Kong is the GvKK movie and the past films.

I wont lie, Kong as a monster bores the shit out of me, and while PJ's Kong was good in the action aspect, the rest of the film was awful. I'm hoping SI avoids long "on the boat" scenes and sticks more to action orientated plots and scenes.
With Skull Island, I legitimately want to care about Kong as a character and as a monster, something to make it hard for me to choose who to root for in GvsKK in 2020.

Having a Godzilla monster in SI could help slightly like:
>Gorosaurus
>Kumonga(Spider Pit)
>Rodan


Yes, it's on a unstable base, because unlike Marvel, LP/WB have done little to nothing since G14 that would help their "Kaiju Universe".
>No other monster movies besides SI.
>No comic line that could help introduce monsters that wont be featured on screen.
>PR being it's own universe.
>The grounded reality of G14.

My fear is that SI fails and WB/LP decide to cancel GvsKK and replace it with "Godzilla 2", while trying to dust anything involving the "Kaiju universe" they've talked about.

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Why no single or theme song by Utada Hikaru? All the Rebuild films have one and the late Showa Era Godzilla films had a few (Save the Earth and Godzilla March). Anno loves the Showa films. Seems like a missed opportunity.

>>14525970
Judas?

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>>14526015
>Judas?

>>14526015
A user on TK's Forum posted a fake leak for Shin Godzilla, the fake leak had:

>Movie started with Godzilla(looking like Shin now, but to a lesser extent) fighting another Monster, Alphagon.
>Alphagon dislocates Godzilla's jaw, and later kills it with an Atomic Blast.
>The movie skips later in the future where Godzilla attacks again.
>Bullshit happens until Japan used Napalm on Godzilla, causing Godzilla to bend over.
>While bending over, Godzilla's spines begin to fall off and his back rips down.
>Another monster comes out of Godzilla, essentially wearing Godzilla as a skin.
>The monster's name is, "Judas"(Judas stabbed Jesus in the back).
>Godzilla's appearance was caused by Judas, since it was a parasitic lifeform.
>Judas looks like Sachiel from Eva, has a Skull face, has Wasp Wings, Wet looking Skin, and a long Xenomorph tongue.
>It flies away, Godzilla's skin is left on the ground and Japan attacks Judas.
>Godzilla Regenerates and goes after Judas.
>Godzilla and Judas(has Acid attacks) fight, resulting in Godzilla crushing Judas's head in with his foot.
>Judas turns into a swarm of Spider like Creatures that start to "Infect Godzilla" and turn him into his "Shin Godzilla" appearance again.
>The US Nuke both Godzilla and Judas, and both disappear.
>The end shows a book with a "M", the same "M" Monarch uses in LP's Godzilla.

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>>14525991
There is Godzilla Awakening. But I heard the less said about it the better. And I don't know. I don't see Skull Island pulling strong numbers. If this year is any indication, people seem to be growing increasingly selective about what they'll watch in theaters. Obviously the quality of the film itself matters. But competition might make a huge difference too.

But if Godzilla/Kong fails to materialize, Legendary now has the live-action Pokémon franchise. Pokémon is literally a billion dollar industry on its on. So attention will probably be shifted to it in the coming months. Their first film will be... Detective Pikachu. Odd choice. But has the potential to pull in families.

>>14526032
So attention will probably be shifted to it in the coming months. Their first film will be... Detective Pikachu. Odd choice. But has the potential to pull in families.

I own and love Godzilla Awakening, but it was handled sloppy in comparison to some "Tie in Comics" done for other franchises. It feels like a Comic that was released as a "Loose backstory" and with the assets of the Movie. It's only purpose that I saw for the book was to flesh out Monarch and expand on the idea that they're kinda the MIB for creatures and Kaiju.

That's the reason it's a "March Release" instead of a "Summer Release", WB knows it would fail, so they're hoping that it can at least do well for a March release.
I mean there is a reason why people keep flocking back to theaters for the Transformers films, It's Dumb and thoughtless action.
Gareth tried making LP's Godzilla "Artsy" and look how that turned out.

Oh Legendary most likely doesn't even give a shit about most of their products and IPs since the Pokemon announcement, though I see that they're playing safe. They chose Detective Pikachu as the "live action Pokemon Movie" so that in the event things look bad, it's not the "Actual" Live action Pokemon movie, and they can still "Redeem" themselves and continue playing safe.

Honestly I can expect LP branching into a Pixar/Dreamworks style animation group.

>>14526008
A Hikaru Utada cover of Godzilla vs Hedorah's opening is obviously what we need.

Seems Godzilla's new roar s basically the same Showa roar we're user to but ever so slightly modified that it hardly matters. The Shin Chan special did have a slightly longer roar but it was still basically what we are usedto..

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vPXPFvEgl0&feature=youtu.be

It's fucking nothing!

>>14526186
They just took the Showa roar and tried to make it sound like Legendary's roar

Unsubbed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lj3p64a_Vs

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>>14526244
They defeated Godzilla with Gas.

It's coming full circle now.

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>>14526244
>that atomic breath
it's like a mix of smokey and laser, I like it

>>14526275
This makes me wonder if there are two types of Atomic breath for Shin Godzilla.

>Blue is faster to charge, does a lot of damage.
>Purple takes longer, but is vastly more devastating, It's Apex.

>>14523731
I've heard this story before, but if this would true then it begs the question: why didn't they just dub and distribute the actual sequel to Godzilla 2000? Surely Godzilla vs. Megaguirus wouldn't have cost $20 million.

>>14522902
I'm hoping for a roar that starts normal but ends gurgling and sounds pained
Because holy shit Shin Godzilla looks like they should be in intense pain at all times

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http://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20160722/p2a/00m/0na/022000c

they're going all out with this one

>>14526384
Sony just didn't give a shit. And Megaguirus technically isn't a 2000 sequel anyways

>>14526186

THE ROAR IS NOT WHAT I WANTED

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OMG ANNO IS A HACK THIS MOVIE WILL SUCK.

>>14525759
>jews


Who let /pol/ into this perfectly nice goji thread

>>14526384
Megaguirus is garbage that under-performed in its own country. Why bring it to the US? GMK was only other Millennium for film worth releasing theatrically.

>>14526553
Go back to Toho Kingdom pls

>>14526553
>Implying Godzilla 2000 wasn't also bad.

I don't think that anyone is contesting that Megaguirus was the worst Millennium movie, but it's not like they knew that ahead of time. If Godzilla 2000 had been surprisingly successful in the US, then why not just go, "Yeah, sure, we'll take the next one, too." What harm could it have really done?

>>14526579
Japanese films are usually released in Japan before being brought to the United States. After seeing that audiences didn't respond well to it there, they probably didn't think it was a good idea to release it theatrically here. Plus, Sony figured Godzilla 2000 only did well because it was riding on the coattails of the hype that preceded G98, (which was quite a bit actually). They didn't want to risk it again.

>>14526553
>Megaguirus garbage

Really? It's a fun 70s Godzilla throwback. Much better than Tokyo SOS.

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>>14526601
>mfw that body slam
Also megaguirus was one of the most expressive kaiju ever

>>14526601
>It's a fun 70s Godzilla throwback.
Yeah but it's also a lazy pastiche of other worn-out ideas already done in earlier films, and aside from the craziness of the black hole thingamajig, it doesn't do anything special. Tokyo SOS sucked, but at least it seemed like it tried to have some sort of message and underlying theme with all the "return the bones to the sea" thing, it was just very poorly executed. Megaguirus felt like it was just made for the sake of existing, it's basically a test version of G against MG with very little merit of its own.

At least it brought in Michiru Oshima. But as other anon said, it did so poorly in Japan that Sony didn't want any of it.

>>14526601
Even for a Godzilla movie, that one felt cheap and rushed. Those weird framerate stutters, clearly visible wires, and low-quality CG made that movie look worse than most of the actual 70's Godzilla movies. Plus the human plotline was boring and Megaguirus just wasn't a very interesting opponent, as cool as it looked.

On the upside, Dimension Tide was awesome just for how hilariously excessive it was, and that scene of somebody climbing Godzilla was fun.

>>14526662
Weren't the framerate stutters meant to represent Megaguirus-vision?

>>14525100
>Wasn't about Kushana, though

It was. This was back in 1992. Miyazaki shot him down though and just said he wanted to play "war games". The God Warrior Appears in Tokyo is just a tribute to Nausicaa but most certainly not a sequel, nor will Anno ever do anything with Nausicaa again, at least animation-wise.

>>14526662
The movie was literally a Showa film, made in recent years(at the time).

I enjoy to over the top nature of the film, but I'll agree that it felt cheap, really cheap.

>>14526601
> Megaguirus better than Tokyo SOS

Not even on a bad day

>>14523920
Yes, he has made comments about it in interviews before. He is particularly bitter about Japan being on the losing side in World War II. His political views are very similar to Matsumoto Leiji's, which, by the current overton window's standards in western countries, puts him on the far right.

Unlike Leiji though, Anno doesn't really weave his political views into his works that strongly. Even the stuff in Gunbuster is pretty mild, mostly a background thing.

>>14526673
yeah they were. Megaguirus can only see in 10 fps. Being Megaguirus is suffering.

Is there like a big video with all behind the scenes/making of Godzilla movie footage?

I see these great gifs but no videos

>>14526899
GOOFS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPXUq9wr1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3oKqbQg33A

SERIOUS BTS STUFF


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUr19d2M-c8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDbfT8uz1aE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3eo3C8yIaU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NljKz9RCcDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJsRLXPwsrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gElk292phZ0

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Wew lad

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>>14526937
People are going to buy this.

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>>14526937
This is starting to get pitiful. I feel bad for Anno.

>>14526937
>>14526955
That just makes me think of Guyver. Looks like a Guyver-Zoanoid hybrid who'd show up in the manga now.

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>>14526955
Okay, this crossover stuff isn't fun anymore,

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>>14526955
I'm pretty sure Anno legally owns Evangelion. If he didn't want this he probably could have prevented it from happening.

>>14526967
From the thumbnail I thought it was Zilla.

>>14526974
The spines definitely curve upward enough for it.

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>>14526840
Wasn't 3.0 an ode to collectivism? To be fair, the production was a fucking mess, the main goal was to turn Eva into a multi-entry franchise and that mean to bury Shinji and Tsurumaki and the rest of the team got creative input and they never understood what was Shinji's problem, they were basically Kensuke

>>14527053
Tsurumaki said he had literally no idea what the fuck was going on during 3.0's production and was only following Anno's orders. The old hack is dragging down all the other talents with him.

I hope we get shots like this in Shin Godzilla. By the way, that's now the official English title.

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2016/07/22/shin-godzilla-press-release-from-funimation-films/

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>>14527078
Image didn't post

>>14526974
>>14527023
Zilla would be so fitting, design-wise. Lean body, somewhat human-like chest and arms, big chin, big spikes at the shoulders, big pelvic boot.

Could be piloted by a Baby Zilla through the cloaca.

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>>14527100
>spoiler
hmmmm

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>>14527100

>>14526183
>>14526186
It's just the Showa roar but slowed down. They should have tried using the 1995 roars and modified them because they would be more fitting

>>14525962
There was this rumor that spread around of an unmade movie that was about grown-up junior fighting what could only be described as a man-made frankengoji made with DNA from Godzilla, Battra, and Destroyah.

>>14527218
>a man-made frankengoji made with DNA from Godzilla, Battra, and Destroyah.
Why in the ever loving fuck would anyone try to do that?

>>14527234
I don't know. Maybe whoever wanted ti create such an abomination thought that the only way to kill Godzilla was with another bigger and more destructive Godzilla. like fighting fire with fire

>>14527234
science? world domination? its kinda cool?

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>>14527218
> There was this rumor that spread around of an unmade movie that was about grown-up junior fighting what could only be described as a man-made frankengoji made with DNA from Godzilla, Battra, and Destroyah.

I doubt there's any validity to it. After Destoroyah, Toho moved onto the Mothra Trilogy and Godzilla was left in the hands of Sony (which was intended to be a trilogy). After the colossal misfire that was Godzilla (1998), it's unlikely Toho that wanted to bog themselves down in heavy continuity again. Continuity made it difficult to secure theatrical releases for the Heisei films. That's why things were looser than they ever were for the Millennium Era.

>>14527265
To clarify my previous post:

- I meant theatrical releases outside of Japan.
- Toho originally didn't plan to make another Godzilla until 2004. Sony's trilogy going south changed things drastically.

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>>14527218
>>14527234
Sounds like Godzilla vs Barubaroi to me. Was the project that eventually lead to Godzilla vs Destroyah. Basically an actual "Godzilla vs The Thing" that was apparently going to put Anguirus in the role of the infected Husky.

>>14527282
What was Barubaroi's backstory anyway?

>>14527324
Same as yours.

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>>14525991
Looks like there definitely will be more kaiju than Kong in the new one:

>When a scientific expedition to an uncharted island awakens titanic forces of nature, a mission of discovery becomes an explosive war between monster and man. Tom Hiddleston, Samuel L. Jackson, Brie Larson, John Goodman and John C. Reilly star in a thrilling and original new adventure that reveals the untold story of how Kong became King.

Poster also.

>>14527598
Legendary Kaiju Cinematic Universe shall henceforth be officially renamed to Colored Smoke Flare Cinematic Universe.

>>14527605

How else are you going to call in ATTACK GUNSHIP 'WHALE'

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>>14527598
>>14527605

>>14527605
Their Kaiju universe is dead in the water, Kong will flop and be the end of it

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>>14527598
>>14527634

Interest level: 0.1%

GODZILLA (2014) killed most of the interest I had in this cinematic universe. But I guess there's still hope. Maybe Skull Island will be good. Legendary better hope so. Or else this universe might disappear real soon.

>>14527649
I enjoyed G14 a lot, but I can see why a lot of other didn't. I just hope Skull Island does well so I can see Mothra/Rodan/Ghidorah in G2...

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>>14527661

I felt bad for Godzilla during the end of Destoroyah. Died knowing he failed to save his son.

>>14527649
Same. I like Kong and all, but I'm not feeling it this time around. It's not just the general pessimism I have towards this whole cinematic universe endeavor, this movie didn't seem interesting to me to begin with, apart from a fleeting moment of intrigue when I first heard about it, but that dissipated almost immediately.

But I was hype and optimistic for G14. Maybe if I act like a cynical cunt for this film, it will actually become a smash success and a pleasant surprise.

>>14527661
>>14527649
I feel like losing Gareth Edwards means we might actually see more of the kaiju in Godzilla 2 if it ends up happening. Plus I could see them using Skull Island as an opportunity to introduce Rodan. Like make Skull Island the source of some of the oversized dinosaur members of the Toho stable.

>>14527675
I went into the theaters knowing Godzilla would have limited screen time and that the humans were the main focus. Gareth Edwards talked a good game, comparing his film to Gojira (1954). And I fell for it. However, the human drama is downright awful. Besides Cranston and maybe Watanabe's character, you care little to nothing about anything regarding the humans. This one flaw is fatal because so much is centered around it. These characters have no more to them than the average blockbuster character. Only difference is all the life and personality are sucked out of them. The monsters are the backdrop. There's no real thematic depth or grit, yet the film is relentlessly serious. The score further sabotages the experience. Teasing Godzilla felt like an insult and by time he shows up its too little too late. I love Jaws and I love Alien. The characters click in those films. Even when the creatures are off screen they have presence. G14 is so dull it hurts.

so, Brandon T just reviewed Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla, since the guy likes MST3K how much you want to bet TK fanboy goos over it?

>>14527718
nobody cares about your boyfriend

>>14527605
I like it honestly.

>>14527633
Why do you say that?

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>>14527634
>>14527598
>parallels in the posters.
>Godzilla not giving a fuck about humans.
>Kong giving a major fuck about humans.

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>>14527679
>updated Kong vs Gorosaurus

>>14525276

Tarantino would go full tokusatsu, so I'd love that pick.

Sam Raimi is such a fucking great choice though, it'd be like Joe Dante's Godzilla Resurrection that got scrapped in 2001.

For those curious, Godzilla is beaten by Shin-Chan by using a POISON GAS BOMB much like the rumored ending to the new movie.

Probably points to the leaks being correct.

>>14527679
Would be neat if they got the rights for other faces. I could imagine Gorosaurus, Varan and even Zilla fitting in. And at that point why not throw in Ebirah, Kumonga or any other no-special-powers animal-like Kaiju. Kong could beat some of them up as a prelude to his planned fight with Godzilla. Or maybe the human characters could clash with Meganulon or "regular-size" Kamacuras as a tribute to the insect pit scene.

And their licencing fees alone would bankrupt the movie.

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>>14527822

I'd kill for some Zilla and Gorosaurus, anon. Imagine a scene like pic related happening on Skull Island.

>>14527834
And then the general complaint wouldn't be "Kong has too little screentime" but "quit showing the ape, go back to these more interesting monsters".

>>14527834
what if TK bans them from FMs out of obscurity? The power wielded there is out of control enough for it to happen.

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>>14527848

We need some young bloods at Toho. Like their sons or something. The question is, who will kill the current Toho execs?

>>14527598
I hope it makes a lot of money

>>14527218
....The 1995 Roars are literally showa roars, you fucking faggot.
>>14526186
Should have done a modern take on the 54 roar.

Anyone else get a kick out of reading the 2ch boards? There are people posting potential spoilers, bitching about if the shot of the apaches in the trailer are CGI, and making fun of American fan reactions to the new trailer.

>>14526186
They used a different roar for this cross over.

>>14525970
The Judas shit was basically just Juda from Ultraman.

>>14527936
Nope. It was announced from the beginning that Godzilla's appearance and roar in the crossover would be an identical representation of him from the film.

>>14527964
Well, at least it isn't the Frank Welker tier 1985 roar.

>>14527928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS31sZH2p0Y

Would you guys prefer if this was the roar? A mix of Showa and Heisei

>>14527932
What are the spoilers they are discussing and what are their reactions? What do they have to say about American responses?

>>14527932
>and making fun of American fan reactions to the new trailer.
What are they saying?

>>14527932
>>and making fun of American fan reactions to the new trailer.

Anon I need sauce please

>complaining about the roar

>>14527818
But will someone fart in his mouth too?

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>>14527969
>Frank Welker tier being used negatively

>>14528000
Why are people so fascinated with this particular design? I'll admit the eye color is cool, though what else about it makes it so popular? This is Toho's default design for almost everything. Does it have something to do people who were kids in the 90s identify with it the most?

>>14528021
It's a shit costume for promotions, the fuck are you talking about?
>>14528000
Combined with the godzilla roar from 1985 to 1991? Yeah, it's fucking terrible, the worst Godzilla's sounded in 60 years.

>>14528021
That's exactly why. That's the same reason for MonsterArts being stuck in the Heisei-era.

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>>14528028
>this Showa fag assmad

>>14528072
And how am I a showa fag? I just thought 85 to 91 sounded like ass. They looked kick ass. BioGoji is my favorite suit.

>>14523997
woah Honda criticized Omori? Got a source for that? I'd love to see it for myself.

>>14528104
http://www.davmil.org/www.kaijuconversations.com/honda.htm

>DM: Do you feel that the offense some Americans felt when they saw the sequence in GODZILLA VS. GHIDRAH which shows the Godzillasaurus attacking a number of American soldiers was justified? (In GODZILLA VS. GHIDRAH, Godzilla is seen both as Godzilla and as the tyrannosaurus rex-like dinosaur he was before he was mutated by radiation.)

>IH: Kazuki Omori went a little too far. He doesn't blame the soldiers, but I feel that he goes too far.

>>14528104
Factoid came from Wikipedia

>>14528120
GvG was kind of ridiculous.

>butthurt Americans from the future send Ghidorah to trash Japan
>Ghidorah attacks Hiroshima with the atomic bomb memorial very obviously in the foreground

>>14528120
thanks anon

What did you guys like more, the first or second trailer?
https://youtu.be/ysRIwlEBjuw
https://youtu.be/M89VLZgo1Vg

>>14522783
Why is Godzilla's tail so long?

Is he going to lose it in the movie?

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Toho seems quite confident about this. May we actually have something special this time around? How will mainstream media, causal audiences, and Western critics react to Hideaki Anno and the first Japanese Godzilla film on the word stage in decades? Any chance Shin Godzilla will be showered in praise or will it be dismissed without a second thought?

>>14528718
Don't kid yourself, it will never reach the popularity of any Hollywood film no matter how good it is. Even if it does turn out well, American audiences will have a much tougher time sympathizing with the story since it deals on such a personal level to the Japanese 2011 quake. Outside of Japan, it will not even be a blip on the radar.

>>14528763
It took a while, though Gojira (1954) eventually got recognized as great cinema. And much of the drama in said film revolved around nuclear anxieties. Japan was the only country to really experience something on that level.

I know cultural differences will probably keep many from fully understanding or giving Shin Godzilla an honest chance. But it isn't impossible. And I think Hideaki Anno is probably among the few Japanese directors alive today in the position to produce an objectively good kaiju film. Visuals effects might be a little wobbly. However, there is still a chance for a compelling narrative, engaging characters, great cinematography, and a moving score.

>>14528818
It may be looked back as a cult classic if it's any good at all, but unless it has Hollywood's grease and popular actors smattered all over it, no typical moviegoer is ever going to give this a chance.

>>14528843
Not to mention Funimation's budget probably means this'll be a Limited Release or Event Cinema streaming type thing.

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>>14528889
oh god please stop reminding me these terrible faggots are going to be managing the western release

>>14528901
Why is Funimation bad?

>>14528718
>mainstream media
Online news outlets will report that there's a new Godzilla movie and forget about it the second they hit the submit button. Maybe they'll give it a mention by the time (or if) the next American one comes out.

>causal audiences
Most won't ever hear of it. Everyone else will just look at promo images or the trailer, dislike them and comment how stupid the effects look and that Japanese are retarded for still making monster movies. Then they'll go onto peeing themselves over the next batch of "superior" high budget Hollywood blockbusters. I mean, take basically any shitty article on any obscure site, and look at all the vile disdain casuals are already pouring onto the movie (by which of course I mean don't go look at them, stay the hell away). Casual viewers won't ever be caught dead giving low budget cultural specific genre movies a fair chance.

>Western critics
I'm sure there will be some who try to look at it in a positive manner, and analyze any sort of subtext and social significance. But most will just glance at it and say "no way I'm touching some stupid Chinese rubber monster shit" to themselves and forget about it.


Godzilla sadly isn't the widely loved global phenomenon some fans make it out to be. Most people around the world regard it as cheaply made bottom of the barrel garbage that the Japanese make for themselves, or at best as laughable schlock that somehow has a cult following. Much like with the rest of the franchise, fans and monster movie enthusiasts will keep talking about the film, and it will remain a relevant topic for a long time in their circles. No matter how the movie turns out, this is bound to happen simply due to the circumstances of its release, what with it being the first Toho movie in a long time, for being attached to Anno, or for Godzilla's altered portrayal. So yeah, it can easily be something special alright, but only if you think within the boundaries of its niche fanbase.

>>14527974
>>14527975
>>14527978
>E-e-elevens Senpai noticed me?!

>>14528909
Everything they handle right now has been terrible. Subtitles, video quality of the fucking media, release of said media behind schedule.

It may be different with movies, but from their track record I expect nothing more of a mess.

>>14528918
So even if somehow Anno produces some of the greatest cinema of all time and the actors deliver stellar award-winning performances, Shin Godzilla never receive proper recognition due it being a low budget, foreign monster film. And not saying the film will be a masterpiece, only offering a hypothetical situation. Anno allegedly said he wanted to surpass Gojira (1954), so for this question I'm just pretending he did.

>>14528933
Evangelion 3.0 only got released this year. And wasn't there a subtitle problem with one of the Attack on Titan live-action films? But how regularly does this kind of thing occur? Every company has its mistakes.

>>14528918
Just to add to that, I'm sure some non-fans will give it a chance out of curiosity, like maybe someone who's seen one or two Godzilla movie back in the day and wants to see what a modern one looks and feels like. But with certain aspects of the movie already being polarizing among fans, they can easily end up liking it or hating it too, and there's no guarantee they'd understand all of its themes.

>>14528947
>So even if somehow Anno produces some of the greatest cinema of all time and the actors deliver stellar award-winning performances, Shin Godzilla never receive proper recognition due it being a low budget, foreign monster film.

Nigga, Japan and Korea have created some of the best horror films of all time and literally NOBODY here in the west knows anything about them other than hardcore enthusiasts. Godzilla was dead on arrival. And you have too much faith in Anno.

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>>14528960
I'm cautiously optimistic about all of this. Gunbuster and Evangelion are some of my favorite anime. Cutie Honey was fine and God Warrior in Tokyo was interesting. And I know many of you here despise Rebuild, however, I think it's perfectly good entertainment. Sure, not as deep and masterfully handled as the original television series. A better job could have been done with it. Though it's definitely a well produced and entertaining work that still attempts to scratch at the deeper things.

Meanwhile, recent Godzilla films have been various shades of dull and mediocre. We need someone or something to push the envelope while remaining faithful to the core elements of the character and franchise. Godzilla (2014) wasn't it and Anno has a solid record. Even if it isn't a masterpiece, it's almost certain to be something memorable.

>>14527878
Why do I like the idea of 2014Zilla and Shnzilla just hanging out together?

>>14527878
I have no idea what's being said, but I'm pretty sure Gino's being moe

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>>14529058
>>14529063
Zilla wanted to be in Shin Goji's movie, so he let him

Have some self conscious 2014

>>14528947
Even if his movie hypothetically surpasses G54 in some way, I doubt it would ever gain a similar recognition because there's just too much shit sticking to the franchise and the perception of Japanese media as a whole.

G54 has the benefit of having been seen as a cult classic for decades, during which time it gathered enough positive rep to turn around the bad critical reception it received upon release. Yeah, most people out there have never seen it, an average American is likely more familiar with the '56 recut, and the movie still carries the "it's just a guy in a suit" stigma. But its (pop)cultural importance, its sincere and serious tone, and the fact that it's old (which gives the effects some leeway) means that the more open-minded viewer will probably be willing to judge it fairly without dismissing it out of hand. The history behind the movie is also interesting, and its message was highly relevant at the time, so most are willing to forgive if it comes across as heavy-handed in some scenes.

To reach the same sort of recognition, Resurgence would have to overcome way more hurdles. Monster movies have way too much of a negative image, low-budget Japanese ones especially, and no matter how well Anno handles the film's themes, people will say that it's forced or that a Godzilla movie can't be taken seriously in this day and age. Really, I see this as a film that no one outside its intended audience and the fans will be able to appreciate fully. I know I'm being pessimistic as fuck, but that's what the franchise taught me to be, and I still hope the movie performs decently within its own genre.

>>14529058
Fat/skinny dichotomy is a tent pole of comedy.

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>>14529093
Indeed.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ala3f9H9XmU
Enjoy a Baragon theory video.

>>14527270
No it didn't.

>>14529113
Who is the artist behind all these great comics?

>>14529058
They can be the Bulk and Skull of the Godzilla family

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>>14529451

>>14528922

...gonna have to go into some more detail there senpai

>>14527671
>if you look closely, you can see the exact moment when his heart goes NUCLEEARRR

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>>14528718
>decades
Keep fishing

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>>14529725

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>>14527878

>>14527878
>Zilla-senpai what did you wish for?
>To get another cameo in Shin Godzilla! Though I'd probably just die instantly

>Don't worry senpai!

>I'll take my time to kill you slowly

DAS RIGHT
http://astoundingbeyondbelief.tumblr.com/post/147843071457/first-footage-of-satomi-ishihara-speaking-english

>>14529909
>DOD's codename
So the guy posting that he saw it here was telling the truth and Norman England was full of shit all along, huh.

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>>14529909
Cringed only slightly.

>>14529909
Eh. I've heard worse.

>>14529937
That is adorable

MORE FOOTAGE

https://twitter.com/ebisu7117/status/756809180787281920

>>14529919
>Norman England was full of shit all along
What a stunning development

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>>14529909
>>14530032

the naughty part of me is so excited to watch all these arrogant Jap bureaucrats get btfo and their spirits crushed by a giant zombie lizard

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>>14530047
Well yeah, that's part of the franchise's appeal.

Japanese audiences cheered during Godzilla vs King Ghidorah because in the Mecha Ghidorah battle, they destroyed the then-recently built new Tokyo city hall, which most people thought was a massive waste of money and giving it the nickname of the "Tax Towers"

>>14529909
>>14530032

Behind the scenes and interviews

https://twitter.com/ebisu7117/status/756823978337939456

https://twitter.com/ebisu7117/status/756813207268843520

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The color really undermines the moody atmosphere...

>>14527974

The spoilers were posted in the last thread. Second Godzilla. Poison Gas. Blah Blah. They're just making fun of some autist who posted a fan reaction vid.

Honestly, most of them seem like assholes. They have a literally 100 comment arguement over the CGI of the Apache helicopters, and most of them hate the Showa films, and can't stop praising Destroyah and Biollante as the best films in the series.

>>14530145
They're the Japanese version of /a/?

>>14530145
> Hates the Showa Era and considers Destoroyah one of the best films in the series

DROPPED

But according to a online poll from two years ago, Biollante is Japan's favorite Godzilla film. Sci-Fi Japan covers it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8igEZwHo8

>>14530145
>most of them hate the Showa films, and can't stop praising Destroyah and Biollante as the best films in the series.

So what's the problem?

>>14530163
It's kind of strange that none of the Heisei monsters have ever appeared outside of their debut films

>>14530192
Not strange at all, as much as I love the Heisei Monsters, they were all One Trick Ponies.

Showa's catalog of monsters were simple, and had simple origins. Most of them were: >Mutants/Mutated Animals.
>An alien.
>A ancient dinosaur.
>A robot.
It's easy to just throw them in a movie without much explanation of dedication to just their origin, "It's a giant mutated Shrimp!", then Godzilla fights it.

Heisei's catalog on the other hand was more technical with how each new monster was introduced and "born". You had:
>A Daughter of a Scientist who's soul got mixed into a project based on mixing Godzilla's blood with that of a plant.
>A Monster created through time fuckery, then dies, then is brought back as a cyborg through time fuckery.
>A Evil Mothra.
>A alien clone of Godzilla, either created from Plant Godzilla's particles going into a fucking black hole, or the same thing, but with Mothra instead.
>A mutated mirco crab that was created from the thing that killed the very first Godzilla.
So having anything from Heisei, and with the way Toho is about the slight changes to anything Godzilla, you can understand why they normally stick to Mothra, Ghidorah, and Mechagodzilla.