/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #10289

I want to marry Kusuha.

Gaiden Dwellers

WAGA SHINKEN >>>> KONO TAIKEN

>>14504571
>Hey, we know that you're doing good in the background and all be we need you to take on/work with the Hagane and Hiryu
>Don't bother going back to the other front, we'll send some other guys to deal with it

>>14504581
Where does WAGA ZANKANTOU fit in that scale?

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>>14504586
It can't be beat.

>>14504583

R-3 seriously suffers of being a support unit and being a starter unit in a world of upgraded endgame units.

>>14504586

Dunno. The Zankantou is big but looks fairly proportional to the DGG as a pretty big but not too crazy two handed sword.

Meanwhile the Orgonite Baskar Sword looks ridiculously huge. Like several times the Raftclanz's length.

Dracodeus > Brachium > Raftclanz > Gespenst Hawken > Super Soul Saber FF > Excellence Gunstriker > Leonisis Varga > Leonisis Harga > Super Soul Saber GG > shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brigandi

Didn't see we had a new thread, reposting

>>14504300
Beats me. I actively tried to find them when I played @1 and I couldn't find shit. I reloaded a quicksave every time I got hit on a really low chance and tried standing on the same exact tile again, I never found somewhere that I ALWAYS got hit.

With savestates you'll definitely always get hit if you try to savescum since the RNG seems to be set at the start of a player or enemy phase in most old SRW, but reloading from a quicksave seems to show that no, it's not specific tiles designed to fuck you over at all. At least not from what I could tell, maybe someone can crack it open with a hex editor or some shit and dig at the actual values.

Did some new animators join TOSE?
Raftclans in particular really stands out from every other unit, like their attacks have a different sense of weight, or something.

>>14504609
R-3's honestly not that bad, in OG1 it does pretty damn well for itself. it's got S ranks on the only two terrains it'll ever be on, before S Ranks started getting common as fuck, and if you upgrade Strike Shields a little (they're pretty cheap) Aya can easily get herself Aced before you get the SRX. Plus TK Beam Cannon or whatever that attack is called is a decent ALL.

It's problem isn't that the R-3 is bad, it's that it's flat out not worth putting any money into usually since you get the SRX so early in every game after OG1. And because of that it's not worth giving Aya Hit & Away anymore since she'll never make any good use of it, better to just dump into SP related skills.

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>>14504612
>The Zankantou is big but looks fairly proportional to the DGG as a pretty big but not too crazy two handed sword.

I dunno, anon, that looks like six times Dygenguar's size, maybe even seven.

Which means that at its max length it's over 300 meters tall.

A 300 METER TALL SWORD.

>>14504626
(no wait, on looking closer, it's probably only five times larger. A 250 METER TALL SWORD then.)

>>14504620

Fair enough. Even Rai, who's definetively one of the better pilots in the game, isn't worth upgrading because they become SRX Fodder, and he's so good he can make the R-2 dodge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYxywM_Co38

>>14504632
Why isn't that a trophy?

>#10289
Whoa, we had over nine thousand threads in the blink of an eye.
Time sure does fly fast!

>>14504642
Anon I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but you've been on a coma for a long long time....

Alpha 3 plot didn't even happen yet though

>>14503933
> MC gets in robot with mysterious girl
> She actually has no clue what she's doing there, the robot kidnapped her before showing up and she just wants to go home
> Ends up having to take over the controls when MC gets a concussion because he forgot to put his seatbelt on

>>14504604

I'm guessing it's the savestates thing, since almost everyone plays Alpha on emulator. So it's the same shit as D, basically.

>>14504642
>Whoa, we had over nine thousand threads in the blink of an eye.

Really? Can someone link these threads I can't find them.

>>14504630
Dunno why everyone keeps the SRX always combined when they have better mook killing potential separated. I seriously only use the SRX for bosses. And gameboy OG allows you to split SRX, attack with both the R-2 and R-3, then recombine and still use the SRX so they're pretty much always worth using.

>>14504695
You get overall the same amount of PP on 3 pilots without needing to split you kills.

In the GBA games there's even LESS of a reason to use them, because subpilots get kills too.

>>14504708
>In the GBA games there's even LESS of a reason to use them, because subpilots get kills too.
None of my subpilots got PP in OG1.

>>14504718
Check again.

>>14504695
>when they have better mook killing potential separated.
If you upgrade them maybe, but the SRX is still the only combiner in the game that doesn't share upgrades with its components. And it's certainly not worth upgrading all three of them. Especially when the R-1 can't hit past range with anything but its most expensive attack or equippable weapons, that still upgrade separately.

>>14504723
>can't hit past range with anything
"can't hit past range 1 with anything"

Also, why are we arguing about PP/kill efficiency? I use the R-2 and R-3 as mook sweepers because I like giving all the SRX guys a chance to shine. Rai had the most kills in my first OG1 run.

Does anyone know what Miles' full name is and his rank in the military and the Steel Dragons and why he's such a tool?

How close are the DyGenGuar and Raftclanz in size?

>>14504626
Does anyone still have a screen of that one post which calculated an estimate of the Zankantou's power? I recall the verdict being something like 5x as powerful as an atom bomb.

>>14504728

Because the only way to play SRW is to min-max so you're using the best characters causing the maximum damage percentage for maximum efficiency.

Fun? That has no place here.

>>14504721
Maybe "none" was too strong as I wasn't keeping track for the SRX, but I know for a fact that Tetsuya never got any even when Daitetsu did, and I didn't observe Sean getting any either for mooks that the Hiryuu took out.

>>14504695
>Dunno why everyone keeps the SRX always combined

Until the SRX and R units share upgrades I'm keeping those fuckers combined.

>Stage 5 in D
>Send Duo in against a Virgo II
>The first thing he does is activate shield + beam coat to pretty much tank their attack down to nothing.

>>14504739

Well Tetsuya and Sean can't really get kills on account of not being usable pilot on their own. SRX team can I guess.

>>14504734

I think Raftclanz is M, so it's probably the high difference between Alteisen and Soulgain.

When will they get rid of the useless plane?

With Rescue around as support unit, no reason to have the stupid plane at all

>>14504738
But SRX has a better themesong

>>14504739
Ship subpilots can't be main pilots and thus never get kills at all, just like they outright don't have accessible stats.

Mind you, SRX still has a better weapon loadout than its components, three pilots, and lets you rack up PP for Rai and Aya on a first or second run when you can't afford to upgrade everyone.

>>14504752
>useless
Its time will come.

>>14504734
55m vs 32m IIRC

>>14504734
Raftclanz is a manlet super robot.

>>14504752
Russel will ram it in the true final boss of the final game and be the ultimate hero of the OG verse and
SRW multiverse.

When did they get rid of the Schutzwald?

>>14504632
Sanger has a single exaggerated swing
Al Van fucking outclasses him if its about handling a sword

>>14504755
Giado will return in the FA-32 Full Armor Schwertz Kai.
I can sense it in my feet.

What emulator should I use for GBA/DS? Haven't played any in awhile.

>>14504758
>Russel will ram it in the true final boss of the final game

And it will survive.

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>>14504755

>>14504764
Sanger has tons of swings dude.

Each attack is a different sword technique.

>>14504769
>Forever stuck in the Grungust

His time will never come

>>14504771
but those were their finishers, right?

>>14504777
Grungust Kai is a top tier machine though. No dimensional/magic bullshit, pure strength

>>14504762

2nd OG. They just gave the cannons to the new Gespenst frame instead.

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>>14504777
>"stuck" in a Grungust

>>14504764

Sanger has a system that copies his movements, he can make as many swings as he wishes.

Granted Fury mechs apparantly work on thought control so Al-Van can do that too.

>>14504764

Al van uses macros for his moves, Zengar manually controls all those swordsman moves

>>14504777

Grungust doesn't have the pure special plot power that most game MCs have but it's still one of the strongest machines the group has, and probably has the strongest machine that's reliable in the Earth forces since the SRX could explode, and Ryukoh frequently feels like napping.

>>14504790
Fury mechs are controlled by thought not Marcos.

>>14504804

One wonders why they don't make a limited production of the grungust. It is one of the oldest units along the gespenst and the huckebein and has proven to be as reliable as super ultra cutting edge new technology, be earth or alien made. With all the money they spent in GS units and relions/heavy barrelions/MP huckebeins/etc they could've built at least 500 Grungusts, most likely even more as development of cheaper technology to replace old and more expensive components is a thing.

>>14504824
What about Polos?

>>14504804
What about the two-pilot Sanshiki though?

>>14504767
I still use VisualBoyAdvance for GBA.

>>14504613
>Dracodeus
>above either Super Soulsaber, the Gespenst Haken and especially the Raftclanz
That is some absolutely shit taste

Wouldn't Isurugi have had to pay Mao Industries for the schematics to mass produce Grungusts for GS?

That jew bitch wouldn't do that so she just used the Project TD data she got from Sleigh.
Because Sleigh's not very bright, see.

>>14504777

>He doesn't think the ultimate Super Warrior has arrived
>He doesn't know about Taiga Power
>He doesn't want to pilot a machine that's an S Plus target

His time doesn't need to come. He's transcended time.

>>14504752
But if they axe the plane, how will we get a trophy for using it to shoot down Keisar Ephes?

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I'm now at the stage of OGG where pretty much the entire team is assembled, I've cleared or will clear every secret and I have a billion units to put pilots into. Now I have option paralysis.

I'm thinking of shoving Katina and Russel into the Grungust type 3, putting Task into the HuckIIIR Boxer, Leona into the Wildwurger L, Radha into the Siegerlion. But this leaves me with 2 grungusts and the ashsaber unused which are all pretty good units. Maybe I should put Yuuki and Carla into the Grungusts, since I just can't seem to love the randgriths?

Also, is it me or is the HuckIII AM gunner kind of shit? Its map attacks are weak and its finisher is only so-so. Maybe it's just cause Ryoto is flying it.

>>14504862

Easy, you get the trophy for shooting down the final boss with the MP huckebein's vulcans

>>14504868
>using the Wurger L
>using a non-psychic in the Siegerlion

You get the Soulgain, Persoenlichkeit, Valefor, Eternal, Lightning and Agares in the last stretch of the game, no need to fill out all your 19 final stage deploys right now

>>14504875
Oh, and I forgot the Vaisaga.
The Ashsaber is pretty trash, if you wanted a ranged mech you'd use either the AX, the Laz Angriff Raven or the Gespenst RV.

>>14504868

The gunner is legit just plain inferior to the boxer in OGS and gaiden. There's literally no reason to use it unless you want to earn more PP by having more pilots on a single machine. As for the grungust sanshiki, I would recommend putting inside a pair of the alpha archetypes like Ryoto/Rio, Task/Leona or Yuuki/Carla to permanently give them the love relationship damage bonus.

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>>14504842

I forgot my picture.

Weren't there OG trading cards? Did anyone ever collect those?

>>14504875
Why would you need to put a TK into the Siegerlion, it's dodgy enough that the shield isn't necessary....
>check attacks, notice the finisher requires TK
well, shit.

Now I'm thinking of putting Radha into the AM gunner just for its high Move. I need my cheap Bless/repair/resupply unit!

Also Radha is my waifu

>>14504875
radha is psychic dude

>>14504875
>not using stun shot
Or did they nerf that in OGG?

>>14504888
Put her in the Gespenst mk II S and pretend she's Kazumi

>>14504893
>needing stun shot
Who let the plebs in?

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>>14504891

>>14504891
>>14504908
She's psychic, but not the right kind of psychic. She's Shine and Gilliam-type psychic, not a psychodriver.

>>14504887
>Weren't there

There have been two card games; The first being Scramble Gather (where Katina and GAB-L had their debut) and currently, there's OG Crusade.

OG runs off the unified Crusade system. Basically a bunch of different themed decks and boosters. One person could be Sunrise Crusade and somebody could be using OG Crusade and they'd still be able to play together although they would have very different units.

>>14504946
So like Weiss Schwartz?

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That reminds me, what does the shield icon in the bottom right represent?

>>14504987
What was it, that they have a chance to defend from an enemy attack even if you didn't tell them to defend or something?

>>14504987
The fact it has a shield?

>>14504990
>>14505001
>>14504987
Shield Block is based on skill right?

>>14505006
Yeah, dunno the exact math behind it though. Never bothered to read into it beyond "more skill means this is more likely to happen"

>>14505001
Who all has shields in OG, just the Laz inspired mechs, R-1, and Vysaga?

>>14504728

>>14504738

Because >>14504695 claimed that the SRX has better mook killing potential separated when that is anything but the case.

>>14504987
60% damage reduction when defending instead of 50.

>>14505020
ART-1 too

>>14505020
Vysaga has a shield? Huh.

>>14505020
R1, R2, ART1, Laz Angriff

>>14505022
Well that makes sense. How many moves can the SRX really spam, though? Just Blade Kick, or do later games add more?

>Think I had enough kills for the TB
>Short by 1
>Have to redo Stage 5

>>14505036
Why would you want tuberculosis?

>>14505033

Blade Kick, Zine Knuckle, Gaun Genocider and Hi Finger Launcher are pretty much the grunt killing moves it has from OGs onward. No TK Missiles though, sadly.

>>14505033
High Finger Launcher has 10 ammo and huge range.

>>14505030
It uses its cape

I wish OG would make Shields/Counter-Cut/Shoot Down a thing that can trigger in normal fights, instead of only units with Shields getting a bigger damage reduction when they defend. Would've gone a long way in OG1 for making units that are supposed to be meatwalls a lot less fragile in OG2/OGG when damage was through the roof all around.

>>14505047
Would've gone a long way in OG*

>>14505033
Hi-Finger Launcher has 10 Ammo, Gaun Genocider and Blade Kick are fairly cheap EN wise. Dominion Ball has 3 or 5 ammo depending on the game.

>>14505024
>>14505032
>ART-1

Well, yeah, since R1 does.

>R2

Really? Huh. That one I didn't remember.

>>14505030
It does.

It did in AP too, that's part of what makes it so good at special defenses. (Parry, Shield, Double Image...)

>>14505033
High Finger Launcher. Sort of Gaun Genocider too. It gets Zine/Xine/how do you spell that word? Knuckle now too.

>>14505020
R-1, R-2, ART-1, Garmraid Blaze-S, Vysaga, Angelg, Laz Angriff, Randgrith Raven, Laz Angriff Raven, Aile Chevalier, Fabularis, Raftclans Aurum and Skull Knight have shields in MD.

>>14505062
>Garmraid Blaze-S
>Angelg
>Fabularis

Shit, really? Would never have guessed.

Did Aile have one in D? I only really ever got anywhere in Super runs.

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>Shu joins late in the game
>still managed to climb to #3

>>14504868
>Also, is it me or is the HuckIII AM gunner kind of shit? Its map attacks are weak and its finisher is only so-so.

The Gunner is objectively terrible in OG until Moon Dwellers restores it to being the better frame by giving it Photon Rifle S as a post-move attack and making it only take up one deployment slot. In OGG it's Boxer or go home.

>>14504899
I'd rather be a pleb than play the RNG game with Dark Brain

>>14505066
What else do you expect when you black hole all of the kills into black hole man?

>>14505066
It's like picking flowers at this point.

What are the Puff bonuses in MD again?

>>14505085
Katia gives +1 range

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>>14505072
Speaking of the OGMD Boxer/Gunner, why is it that the Red Exbein has a strictly superior Gunner mode, while the Blue frame has a strictly superior Boxer mode when you compare them to each other?

That shit annoys me.

>>14505082
I-I didn't abuse Granzon's MAP t-that much.

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>>14505085

>>14505084
This has become the newest /srwg/ meme, hasn't it.

>>14505096
Without a doubt.

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>>14505096
But of course.

>>14505094
But what does it say?

>>14505096
Considering he did win that Hunger's Game SRW version just by doing that, I'd say it pretty much qualifies. Especially since it's kind of almost in-character for Shu to just manipulate a shit ton of events for the heroes advantage.

>>14505104
>Katia
Mobility +10, Weapon Range +1

>Tenia
Attack Power + 200, Critical Rate +10

>Melua
Movement +1, Armor + 300

>>14505087
>why is it that the Red Exbein has a strictly superior Gunner mode, while the Blue frame has a strictly superior Boxer mode when you compare them to each other?
other way around

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>>14504758
Russel ramming the plane to save the OGverse is actually Shadow Mirror Lee!

>>14505114
Thank you, dear anon. Also, when do you get Shana-Mia as a sub?

>>14505087

Because Ryoto gets the Blue and Rio gets the Red and those are their specialities.

>>14505121
Why are you posting a boob ninja?

>>14505101
Who are the winners of the SRW Hunger Games so far, anyway?
Just Shu and Ibis?

>>14505087
Uh, Matt, they're identical. What are you looking at that you think is different?

>>14505122
When you get Dracodeus.

>>14505132
Trombe won when this stuff first started

>>14505120
OH GODDAMNIT.

>>14505126
I mixed the two up while posting somehow.

The problem is that Ryoto starts in the inferior Boxer while Rio starts in the inferior Gunner.

>>14505122

When you get Dracodeus. She doesn't give support abilities though, and is just an SP Bank. She's also Dracodeus only.

>>14505136
Look at their finishers

>>14505140
>Trombe
the horse?

>>14505136
Look at the EN costs on their finishers.

Blue Gunner has a cheaper finisher, and Red Boxer has a cheaper finisher.

>>14505145
Oh, same stats but they pay 10 more EN for the unfavored finisher. That's not exactly a big deal.

>>14505139
>>14505144

Thanks.

>>14505149
who else?

>>14505149
Yes.

>>14505141

Oh well then. Because Terada said it would really bother Mattman and that's what he gets for not playing the games.

>>14505150
Not just that
Blue Gunner has a 30 EN G-Impact Zapper vs a 40 EN one, and red Boxer has a 40 EN G-Sword Diver vs a 50 EN one, but the blue Gunner also has 2 extra Graviton Rifle ammo.

I'd probably still use both Gunners, you have just way too many good melee mechs already.

>>14505150
Blue has slightly more ammo on the second ALL too.

Not that it matters much, they'll never run out of EN or ammo in the Gunners, which are superior to the Boxers be they favored or not. I've been using them heavily for two runs and didn't even notice.

>>14505163
>too many good melee mechs
I recognize those words but I don't think you can use them in a sentence together like that

>>14505163
dailt reminder Zapper doesn't have DK because Full Impact Cannon will be added along the retrieved Tronium pieces

>>14505163
Kind of weird they made the one with the cheaper finisher the opposite frame to the one they're meant to use. Sure you can switch them around so but that's still strange.

>>14505176
It's late but you get what I meant.
There's 3 Grungusts that have no default pilots, the G frame is basically the best one for the Gespensts now, the Haken is generic and Haken is better suited for the Vaisaga, and I GUESS there's also the Leonisis Haga and its fucking fantastic total lack of range.

>>14505178
It does have that explosion animation that The Inspector used like 6 different times.
I'm hoping for Full Impact Cannon to be a combination attack that any of the 4 Alpha pairs can use.

>>14505184
It's so you can stick Katina in the red Boxer.

>>14505190
> there's also the Leonisis Haga and its fucking fantastic total lack of range.
At least it's not the Earthgain.

>>14505191
Her stat growth is biased towards range now, so the Gunner is still a better idea.

Also for whatever odd reason, the Gunner has less mobility than the boxer, but also more HP and EN than it.

>>14505191
She's range oriented now, so that doesn't help.

I still can't believe it took 4 years to get something so underwhelming as MD...

2nd will never be surpassed since Alpha 3 and W stories are lackluster

>>14505200
>>14505201
Well shit.

>>14505203
The difference wasn't that big when I looked it over, but it still sucks.

>>14505190
N's still the best Gespenst Frame.

>>14505190
>I'm hoping for Full Impact Cannon to be a combination attack that any of the 4 Alpha pairs can use.

They might actually have a story reason to do that, too. If they only get one piece of Tronium back - or only put a piece of Tronium in one of the Exbeins - obviously the Gunner can only FIC if it's the one that has that piece of Tronium, but if you connect Gunner and Boxer, it works no matter which one is which.

>>14505202
>Alpha 3 and W are lackluster
>as opposed to Alpha 2 and D.

>>14505208
Its 22 points in favor of Range at 99

>>14505214
Alpha 2 was vastly improved with the new Baral stuff

Perfection>>>>>>>>>>Kaiser Ephes

Oh right, I forgot Kusuha's VA voiced the shortstack professor in Shokugeki.

>>14505217
Yeah, not that high, but still annoying. They probably did that due to her ace bonus.

>>14505221
>Alpha 2 was vastly improved

And Alpha 3 won't be?

>>14505227
Which by default, her Gespenst is the type G that favors Melee. So why the 22 points of difference in Range?

>>14505227
>22
>Not that high

Anything beyond 10 points is significant.

>>14505236
it will since Galong already mentioned he has the other Shirei

Euzeth might be even alive, Database has to fixed though since they are boring. Cobray's story will be heavily modified since Ing will be important to it. Selena and Touma will be rehashes mostly

How much time has passed from OG2nd/DP to MD?

>>14505227
>not that high
Exactly, even with the bias towards range, her attack stats aren't really high, she has I think 229 range at lv99 which is kind of just above average and her melee is even worse, so it's probably better to just dump her in a ranged mech, because at least she can actually switch mechs.

Meanwhile Banpresto thought Masaki was totally a ranged fighter which is why he has a 20 point difference between range and melee now so it's more work to make Ranbu no Tachi the finisher instead of Cosmo Nova.

>>14505237
Probably felt like being cheeky or something (no one actually puts her in ranged mechs anymore). Her Ace pretty much bridges the gap if you keep her in the melee frame.

>>14505254
The only game where Ranbu no Tachi was stronger than Cosmo Nova was MK1.

Cybuster's moveset is always range oriented as well.

>>14505250
OGG was December 2007, II was November 2012, DP was November 2013, OGMD was June 2016.

>>14505262
I think he meant in the plot between the games.

You ever notice how much Ingram looks like Tommy Wiseau?

>>14505260
>The only game where Ranbu no Tachi was stronger than Cosmo Nova was MK1.
Yeah, but in OG2nd, RnT was just 200 points below Cosmo Nova, but Masaki's stats were sort of even with melee winning out by a little bit.

>Cybuster's moveset is always range oriented as well.
Eeeeh, it's balanced like the SRX, the Zephyr Sword and Akashic Buster are the things you're using the most with High-Familiars for your ranged attacks, like how the SRX counters everything with Blade Kicks/Xein Knuckles and the odd Gaun Genocider/High-Finger Launcher

>>14505270
Why doesn't Ingram have an eyepatch?
Why don't Calico and Spectra's mechs have flamethrowers?

>>14505245
-Selena will start as an enemy with Neue DC/GS remnants. The Soleares is made from SM tech
-Neue DC/GS will be the last earth enemy to defeat before heading into deep space
-No Werkbau, OG Ayin gets a new mech. Ing is captured and forced to pilot Astranagan, when defeated Cobray finally crosses over in Dis Astranagan
-Touma gets more plot with Balmar princess
-Revived Kanan/Taihou pilot the Shirei Phoenix/Turtle, fox guy gets the Shirei Tiger. Towards the end Galong fuses all 4 Shirei for his use
-Yuuki/Carla get the Phoenix/Turtle Kai robots, later upgrade to a brand new non choukijin super robot

>>14505270
I DID NOT SHOOT AYA SHE IS LYING I DID NOT
OH HI EUZETH

>>14505279
>-Touma gets more plot with Balmar princess

You forgot the part where the princess becomes a copilot for dairaioh, because that's what cool nowadays

Man I hope Euzeth returns in his Black Giudecca from @1.

HD Giudecca would make me moist

>>14505284
Na, his dead VA'd girl does though.

The princess becomes free pilot because that's what happened in Alpha 3, albeit with a significantly reduced unit pool.

>>14505288
>Princess becomes a free pilot
That's wrong.

Since Gigan is getting another attachment what will Leone get?

>>14505288
The princess's bodyguard was the one that could switch mechs.

>>14505287
What if Euzeth is truly dead, but instead of Laodecia clones we get Euzeth clones?

>>14505295
My dick.

>>14505270
> Tommy Wiseau
https://xkcd.com/1400/

>>14505295
>what will Leone get?
shot and killed in an even lamer way than in the anime

>>14505279
It's Serena.

>>14505297
Loli ones.

>>14505303
What?

>>14505288

Jesus Fucking Yamato Mattman no. NO. That is wrong. How the hell can you be fan and be so wrong about all this SRW Mattman HOW? Do you just only read summaries while drunk? Because people that have never touched a SRW in their life know more about SRW that you.

>>14505297
Euzeth actually got sent into the past and the W plot is rewritten to accommodate this.

Aria is a Euzeth clone.

-Alpha 3 is already set to be different and vastly improved, no worries
-W only needs to give Valzacard more attacks and tone down the number of pilots, tie Database and make them more interesting and it's set
-K, if in, will surely have a fixed Mist and Cobol will be a Kadum Hakam. Pretty easy
-SC2 if in needs to tie the cast and mechs into some existing faction

>>14505317
>Cobol will be a Kadum Hakam

About as likely as Perfectio being a Jew Giant.

>>14505270

You are tearing me APART Levi!

>>14505288
>The princess becomes free pilot because that's what happened in Alpha 3

That's not a thing that happened.

>>14505310
I'm continually amused he doesn't drop his trip in shame, since no one takes him seriously anymore.

Oh well, at least we can always filter the garbage out.

>>14505317
>tone down the number of pilots
Literally why?

>>14505310
It's like all of you actively forget that he's already gone and spouted more than once "I was pretending to be retarded" so there's no point in questioning or acknowledging it. Either he's legit trolling people and should be ignored, or he's just that stupid and should be ignored. Either way, same result.

>>14505317
>Valzacard gets its full moveset back
>Two or more of Mihiro, Horis and Akane get relegated to Azuki status

>>14505324
OG refuses to give you units with more than three pilots at once. Maybe 4 when Banpreios comes around because there's no way that Aya/Mai are going to get the Azuki treatment in MD.

>>14505270
>Of course, what do ya think? They already put my clones into practice. Euzeth saves money, and he is using me, and I am the fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omZcw0EYGEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUFZGF_vUHg
VERY® SOON™

>>14505330
>OG refuses to give you units with more than three pilots at once

There's a first time for everything, anon.

>>14505325
Pretty much this. He'll either pretend to be trolling or delete his post once he realizes how badly he fucked up.

>>14505317
>Mist
>Fixed

The only reason people remember him is BECAUSE he's an asshole and a moron. If they took that away then what would we be left with? I'd rather he be a complete dickwad then a boring slate of nothingness.

>>14505305
Oppai loli ones.

>>14505337
They missed the perfect first time with the Hagane in MD.

>>14505339
Could just make him a bantz machine like Aschen.

>>14505330
>OG refuses to give you units with more than three pilots at once.

Refuses to, or just doesn't have any? Because there aren't any so far where more than three pilots would make sense, so we have no idea if that's a policy or not. The Hagane, I guess, but I think that's more to keep the demotion from being an upgrade.

>>14505339
>If they took that away then what would we be left with?
Hosoyan saying koko kara zaki wa ore no kenka da.

Or KENN, since apparently people want that.

>>14505342
Azuki is a background character who sprouted a name when nobody was looking

The situation is different.

>>14505343
They could, and probably make that work, but it just wouldn't be the same as the smug asshole we love and make memes about, you know?

>>14505353
I don't think too many people would notice if they made Horis into voice only since W's basically the Ardygun story anyway.

>>14505349
>Hosoya
Save him for some other character. KENN and Kira's seiyuu are the best choices for Mist.

>>14505349
If Hosoya voices Kazuma than Risa Taneda must voice Aria.

>>14505360
Not like W itself even bothered to give him a cut-in for Valzacard's final attack, or any other Valstork/Valguard attack. Shame, he was one of my favorite crewmembers.

Wonder what he retired from in place of being ex-OZ intelligence in OG.

>>14505360
Horis is Kazuma's brother-in-law to be, though.

W is about the family, not the bloodline.

http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars/OGMD/Pilot_Database

Completed.

>>14505330
Remember that Valz COULD have had more pilots if they counted the robot thing and the computer MILF. They were already holding back.

And there's the possibility of it "only" having five pilots if they keep Aria as a separate unit.

I bet that when Valzacard goes OG, the only spirit lists it will have will be Kazuma, Mihiro and that sister who become the captain of the battleship. Aria and her unit would be separated and the Attacks that used that mecha as a bow or a sword are now combination attacks.

>>14505260
>Ranbu no Tachi was stronger than Cosmo Nova was MK1
And MK2/3.

Granted, that's only if we're talking Shinden, but hey - the game gives you Possession, why not use it?

>KENN as Mist
Since when did this start?

>>14505330
Alternatively, they axe Bless early, and so Valstork won't have the issue. Valguard will still come up with a problem, I suppose, and Valzacard too, but who knows?

>>14505368
Ex-UCC?

>>14505364
The only acceptable choice for Kazuma is someone who can convincingly play multiple characters and not make it blatantly obvious that its the same guy.

>>14505370
Yes but he was the least important/relevant character of the bunch. He didn't even have a cut-in.

>>14505368
With how the Federation is cautious of the Steel Dragons, it's equally likely for them to be spreading their caution elsewhere.

For Horis to be a Federation spy is not so farfetched.

>>14505379
Shinden is actually still weaker than Cosmo Nova, going by base power.
Possession just happens to boost your attack pre-armor reduction by I think 50%

>>14505378
this anon is correct

>>14505399
Make it less blatant when you respond to your own posts.

>>14505368
>Wonder what he retired from in place of being ex-OZ intelligence in OG
GS, probably.

>>14505371
>I forgot to change "Duvan" to "Devant" on this page

Thanks for reminding me about this page m8

>>14505378

Don't forget the most important part. It cannot twin

>>14505371
Thanks

>>14505393
There's no difference between that and just boosting the base power by 50%.

And if that's taken into account, Shinden maxes out at over 11k power. Which is not something to laugh at when it's running on the Winky damage formula.

If Valzacard gets its full moveset, wouldn't that basically be them adding the rest of Valguard's moveset onto Valzacard set?

>>14505409
It should be able to, Valzacard wasn't considered a ship in W.

>>14505386
>The only acceptable choice for Kazuma is someone who can convincingly play multiple characters and not make it blatantly obvious that its the same guy.

At least Bless won't have that issue as much, Applicant won't ever be onscreen at the same time as him so a similar voice won't immediately give the game away. Obviously Regulate won't have that problem either given the individual she's based on's livelihood status.

>>14505386
Just throw Fukujun at Kazuma, Inference, and Aria. He can handle all three roles, no problem.

>>14505413
Probably? I have no idea how different the move set would be with the Arm Stora.

>>14505418
Ignoring the whole 'I had no idea what I was talking about with @3' thing, I see.

>>14505262
You can't help but be a wiseass can you?

>>14505428
Aria really should get a different seiyuu even if she is literally just what if Kazuma was a girl.

Preferrably someone who does a lot of boy characters like Romi Park.

>>14505431
What is the alternative, really?
Partake in a debate that you've already lost or just move on?

>>14505413
Presumably Arm Stora adds something to the combination weapons-wise.

>>14505434
In what regard? He asked how long it was between OGII and OGMD.

Unless he means in universe.

>>14505413
I don't think we have any idea about what it "should" have besides Valstork's finisher getting turned into a chest blaster as its weakest attack

>>14505439
Admitting you fucked up? Which is usually part of 'moving on'.

>>14505436
Yuu Kobayashi would be pretty good too, I think.

But that's just me tossing out suggestions.

>>14505439
This is 4chan. Remember, you have to get the last word in any argument even if it's a huge waste of time and ruins the entire thread.

Really, moving on is the more productive option. I wish more people here would learn how to do that.

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>soon

>>14505448
As if you'll lose any sleep over Matt not apologizing.

>>14505436
The vocal cords would probably be different anyway. But it's actually no problem if the male clones have different VAs either, environment affects how genes activate so there's no guarantee they'd sound exactly the same.

https://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/cloning-cats-rainbow-and-cc-prove-that-cloning-wont-resurrect-your-pet/
> Females born nestled between two males within the womb experience a testosterone bath which leads to masculinization of their brains. In dogs, where this effect has been studied, such females turn tomboy. Some lift their legs to urinate and develop a strong desire to sniff everything in their environment.

>>14505454
Eh, six to eight years, maybe a bit earlier if Banpresto decides to shunt W into a Gaiden or something.

But I feel early K will probably be used with early Z, so that's unlikely.

>>14505461
Space Milvus=pre time skip Alpha 3/W, SC2 before upgraded mecha
Akashic Record= post time skip Alpha 3/W plus K SC2 upgrade mecha

Alright, here's my idea for a character.

Here goes.

An oddly effeminate flat-chested character who uses "boku".

What do you guys think? Personally, I think I'm onto something here. Maybe even a possible trend possibly sorta maybe.

>>14505471
We don't need another Ryoto.

>>14505418

Applicant is supposed to sound just like Bless though, to the point that they think he might actually be him in a mask at one point.

>>14505418
>Applicant won't ever be onscreen at the same time as him
[citation needed]
Seriously, weren't you just giving people a hard time about expecting things from other games to play out exactly the same?

>>14505339
I think there's two real options with Mist: either they pair K with Z and have Mist be the new Shinn in that he's totally rewritten into a better character, or they still pair K with Z and have Mist go full-on parody with his interactions with Setsuko being as ridiculously shitty as possible. Either way I can't see them skipping out on the opportunity to have Mist play off the biggest sadsack.

JUST

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/185527-super-robot-taisen-og-the-moon-dwellers/74028799

>>14505481
Play the games, anon.

>>14505481
Applicant doesn't show up until after Bless died in W.

The real question is: can pre timeskip Alpha3/W carry a whole game plot?

MD did with J and it was lame as fuck

>>14505487
>>14505490
>in W
>what is OG

>>14505485
Man some gamefaqs poster sound completely rational and there's the ones that obviously come here (like the guy who complains about MX's low enemy counts) but at the same time you've got people like these and it's just hilarious.

The only autist we have or have had is gatchan and he was never funny in the least.

>>14505496
I don't think they'll pass up redoing the whole, Applicant total sounds like our dead father and why is he fighting us arc.

>>14505471
Reverse trap or bust

>>14505496
Something that has barely even hinted at W.

And something that will keep that part of W the same, the whole point of not having Applicant show his face until after Bless is assumed dead is part of a big plot twist.

>>14505493
Pre-timeskip W's plot is absolutely minimal and needs to work off another plotline that features a big boss.

Beowulf and his Neue Wulf might fit for a Z Master replacement.

>>14505496
That would be more of a total rewrite than the "OG Plot Polishing."

>>14505279
>Carla and Yuuki getting anything
This meme needs to die

>>14505510
screencaped, gonna get rekt in 4 years

>>14505508
>Pre-timeskip W's plot is absolutely minimal and needs to work off another plotline that features a big boss.
They might use that chance to follow up on Masoukishin's final boss.

>>14505510
Yuuki should get a tea-themed robot and Carla should get a custom Fairlion.

>>14505509
Like what R got? It's hardly unusual.

At the very least, don't claim that something absolutely WILL happen, like >>14505508, if you're not working on the fucking things.

I agree it PROBABLY will still happen, but going 'NAH THIS IS TOTALLY HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN' like you're from the future is obnoxious.

>>14505493
>Pre Timeskip Alpha 3
>Yes lets waste an entire game to cover only 5 fucking stages of plot because everyone keeps harping on stopping at the stage where Ryusei gets btfo

Go up to part where we defeat the first Hayami clone and that sounds more like something we can work with.

>>14505520
W dragged out the first five minutes of Detonator Orgun for over half the game; it's not without precedent.

>>14505519
R and @G needed a fair bit of adjustment because of time shenanigans being the focus of their plot.

The other games are more straightforward so Banpresto doesn't really do that level of messing around.

>>14505520
Make it so the SRX gets blown up after the first Zehirut fight

>>14505526
>time shenanigans
You mean like the entire origin of The Database?

>>14505514
There's more of a chance of Kanan and Taihou reviving and joining the Steel Dragons than irrelevant tea man and Carla getting anything.

>>14505520
I think the most likely outcome is we get the barebones first half of W and the barebones first five stages of Alpha 3 as a set of prologue stages akin to the E-Selda stages in MD, and they rewrite things so that they either only figure out the combo attack and Valguard combination after Bless is already gone or Kazuma doesn't want to use Valguard at first because the last time he used it is when Bless disappeared.

>>14505520
R, barring "traveling back in time", got, what? Duminass's origins changed and Despinis not dying?
That's monumentally different from omitting and displacing an entire arc of the plot, you fucking retard.

>>14505519
>but going 'NAH THIS IS TOTALLY HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN' like you're from the future is obnoxious.

And your "NO SEE THEY'LL ARBITRARILY CHANGE IT" stance isn't?

>>14505538
That's not my fucking stance, you blind mongoloid.

>I agree it PROBABLY will still happen

Since you missed it the first time, possibly by having a pair of dicks in your eyes.

>>14505537
Meant for
>>14505519

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>>14505539
>possibly by having a pair of dicks in your eyes
Maybe he's trying to see where you're coming from.

>>14505525
To be fair, those first 5 minutes of Orgun actually had something that you could properly drag out.

I don't think that the OG Team would want to make the SRX Team go through an Alpha 2 level of sitting out an entire game again.

>>14505529
You mean something that can easily be solved as lol Kalpas?

>>14505539
But your still arguing for it based off the notion that the cast of OGs didn't travel back into the fucking past in a vain attempt at trying to craft an argument from the fucking exceptions to OG.

>>14505529
Someone "dying" and instead getting sent back in time due to a teleportation mishap and creating some things is a bit different than R and AG's brand of time shenanigans.

W will probably sorta like "just there" until they do the timeskip

Can't really do much when the first half of your plot literally involves Aria showing up occasionally and then having the bad guys show up and kill your dad at the very end

>>14505529
>Character vanishes and it turns out that he travelled back in time

As opposed to

>The entire cast decides to travel back in time

There's an entire world of difference here.

>>14505547
>I don't think that the OG Team would want to make the SRX Team go through an Alpha 2 level of sitting out an entire game again.
That's why they do that event after the final boss to set up for the game right after that (^:
Question is though what WOULD you be putting into said game if your @3 and W plot is literally nothing?

>>14505550
The only thing I'm arguing is 'stop talking about shit you don't know is gonna happen like it's guaranteed to happen'. I don't know how you fucking missed the whole goddamn point harder than mattman, but good fucking job.'

That reminds me, are all of the Machine Cells done and over with yet?

Because I'd kill for an excuse for them to use the Aurgelmir in OG. Even better have them Machine Cell up Ouka to brig her back.

>>14505562
Even Z2 saved the everyone getting BTFO section for Saisei with the obvious exception of Kamina/Lockon who needed to die in the first game.

Crossgates and the System XN can warp you through both time and space.
Woulnd't be odd to use that to justify Bless warping to seven gorillion years ago

>>14505565
Your arguing against the fucking norm and in favor of less than a handful of exceptions. Your argument AND your point was weak and fucking doomed from the start you frothing spermsoaked retard.

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OG when

>>14505529
WOW WOW

>>14505520

I doubt they'll waste space with SRX R1-R3 stats sprites and animations just to destroy them a few stages into the game.

It'll be like Alpha 3. Ryusei will be fighting offscreen and we'll see him just with a half destroyed SRX sprite with no attacks for a few turns until it gets entirely destroyed.

>>14505478

My brother was over while I was playing Moon Dwellers and he referred to Ryoto as a "really pissy-looking chick in fake Gundam."

>>14505471

Would this character have a husky voice?

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OG when

Which OG is the most when?

>>14505599
Soleares is pretty much guaranteed after that stage in MD, wonder if it will be playable in a DP-like short game if there is such a game release

If they're gonna add a handheld game just like they did for OGs, OGG, OG2nd & MD then Valhawk would be next logical choice

>>14505599
What are the things in the bottom row that aren't ACE, SC2nd, and X-Omega?

>>14505622
I think the 2 small guys are fro that Super Toku Taisen game

>>14505622

The third one from the left is the robot from Great Battle VI. The shitty-looking one that doesn't have Roa.

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>>14505562
>Question is though what WOULD you be putting into said game if your @3 and W plot is literally nothing?

>>14505633

Eh, it'd be better than coming off as sparse as MD did. Not to say it was barren, but it definitely wasn't as packed to the brim as 2nd OG was.

>>14505562
Golionankle

>>14505622
The 2 little ones are Lucifer and Vortex, from Super Tokusatsu Taisen 2001. Basically, they are the OGs Criminal (but not really) Gavan and Shin Kamen Rider/Guyver. Each come with a waifu.

Then, you got God Flash, from The Great Battle VI, so maybe he is buddies with Roa.

Going right, this pinkish and red one is the Getviewm, the final boss of Real Robots Final Attack. Piloted by a infinite respawning bitch called Ana Stacia (yeah....).

Last is Demonic Choir, from Real Robot Battle Line (リアルロボット戦線). Piloted by Char's Aznable granddaughter, Musica Fareden.

>>14505654
Next game will have
>All @3 protags, plot until first Zehirut fight
>W characters, but no plot most of the game aside from Aria showing up
>Maybe introduce SC2nd MC?
Main plot will be
>Everyone goes to La Gias and deal with the spirit shit
>NEO's plot kicks in and finishes
>Probably a detour to Endless Frontier at the same time too to investigate the Giant shit there
Then they go back to the surface and then finish whatever loose threads they want to finish and then after the final boss shit happens then timeskip

>>14505654
Reminded me of OG Gaiden, were it felt like the game was trying to set up a ton of stuff for the next entry.

Kind of disappointing they couldn't at least throw in an extra faction out of something, like the extra Duminuss or something.

>>14505660
Wait the RRFA OG isn't on your side? Shit, guess I should take it out then. Thought she was like the MC like Arierre or something

>>14505665
There is a protagonist OG in the game.
Dunno why that image didn't use get

>>14505674
>get
*her

>musica fareden granddaugther of char
haha what

>>14505676
Is there? Gate of Magus says that it's the only exclusive OG in the game, though you can play as the SRX team.

>>14505664

Yeah, this game definitely felt like it was just building up to more.

>Paris and Baral routes are literally just Alpha 3 Foreshadowing

>Kadum Hakham stuff feels like the tip of the iceberg

>Dark Brain army was a copout

>Crossgate wrecked, but those pieces still look pretty close together

I would've settled for just a smidge more stuff. Hell, even the Shin Neo Neue Divine Crusaders Ne Plus Ultra would've been okay.

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Does he always wear a loincloth, or is it just for the beach?

>>14505674
Must you are confusing it with another game, since RRFA is a Virtual-On style shooting game and the MC is the one you choose. The little story info I could gather says the SRX team (oh yeah, the R-1, R-2 Powered and R-3 are boss fights here and unlockable) are trying to somehow "protecting" her. As in, protecting YOU from her.

>>14505679
Yeah, the things they could do in the old days...

>>14505689
>Shin Neo Neue Divine Crusaders Ne Plus Ultra

Neue Gaia Sabers when?

>More Lamaris/Ramaris shit next game too
>Whatever Dark Brain general that didn't get nuked yet other than Kansai-ben

>>14505689
>Dark Brain army was a copout

Don't two of them die?

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>>14505694
Its what samurai wears

>Crystal Dragoon (Voiced by Tomokazu Sugita)

BURRITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>14505707
>Whatever Dark Brain general that didn't get nuked yet other than Kansai-ben

There's 2 left other than Skull Knight.

>>14505709

Yeah, but Skull Knight fucks off. And Roa says there's two more generals out there.

>>14505709
Debudabidu might come back, he had different forms across the games. Crystal Dragoon is probably the only one that's completely dead.

Then there's Crystal Dragon, and Bone Fighter who might show up later, so it doesn't feel like you accomplish much.

>>14505721
And all they managed to do was get fucked over by the XN-L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm19FxMRMEQ
I uploaded it to YT so I don't have to keep remembering the pomf link when I have like 100 in my search history.

>>14505734
I love Mist Rex.

Would anyone know if ACE R actually mentions the EATERS from Super Tokusatsu Taisen or did people just misinterpret it or just plain make shit up?

On the topic of ACE, do art books exist for ACE R (and SC2nd at that)?

It seems like there is literally no 2d lineart of the Alpha Heart or the Habakiri anywhere on the internet at all, so maybe there would be somewhere to look.

>>14505689
>>Dark Brain army was a copout

I mean, they set up the final boss, it just wasn't in the way they expected. Which I like, since we already fought Dark Brain and fighting him again would have been way less of a holy shit moment than XN-L.

>>14505768
It's more of the fact that they weren't that dangerous and their army (despite being a bit hard to hit) was joke. Even worse is that you only manage to kill one of them, the other is killed by the final boss (and this General is the one with the highest chances of coming back since he had multiple forms).

>>14505279
>Towards the end Galong fuses all 4 Shirei for his use
This will be awesome. I hope OG Ayin will be killed so we can get Cobray already.

>>14505629
That Godflash was my favourite robot when I am a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvu-3Pq8LQQ&t=237

What did they mean by this?

>>14505734
Why are K's original mechs so much better than L's when K is the worse game?

>>14505824
How would this guy even work? Would they just make Godflash a sentient being since he doesn't have an OG pilot?

>>14505599
What else is this missing? I know there's some even MORE obscure ass shit somewhere that isn't on the list yet

>>14505833
I know battle dodge ball had some og... thing at the end. Not sure what it was, but it exists. I don't think battle racers had anything (and we already got Roa with his board, even if it was for a short while).

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>>14505834
Mist has been in the game since OG2nd holy shit

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>>14505762

>>14505833
SRW Shooting
GB 3-6
Battle Dodgeball
Pinball
ACE 1-3

>>14505843
b a s e d

>>14505841
Steard Shot
Steard Slash
Gluwein Buster <ALL>
Gluwein Strike
Brave Crash

Chaser Combination
Shaker Combination

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>>14505843

>>14505846
Shooting only had enemies, right?

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>>14505849

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>>14505851
It had some weird worm thing as an enemy and a battleship that I guess was on your side.

Also the moon got Einst-White-Star'd in the end. I think? I'm not 100% on its story.

>>14505858
Ken Ishikiwa did these 2 designs

>>14505855
>that loli
OG WHEN
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