Is this good

Better than Train-Wrecko, that's for sure.

>>14496095
I haven't seen it, but the G-Reco crowd recommends it highly.

Yes, it's eggcellent.

The first season was okay although it tried really hard to hit the notes of the genre and felt really same-y to a lot of other stuff. The designs were good, especially the knights' units. Early on, the mech CG feels slow and choppy, but it picks up pretty good and starts to look fairly decent by the end of s1.

Season 2 was kind of a shitshow. They tried to pull a lot of stuff out of left field, only to kinda take it back and go "actually it's not this crazy thing, it's just what you were expecting instead." Overall it was a decent one-and-done but I wouldn't sit through it again.

>>14496095
Not as bad as some would led you believe, but It's not recommend either.

It's fine.

Not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
Not nearly as good as it wants to be.

I've only watched the first season. It's watchable and enjoyable I guess, if you like "puzzle" fights where the MC uses regular tactics to beat foes while everyone else is a retard in battle.

>>14496095
No

God no. It started out OK-good but it shits itself very quickly, and REALLY shits itself at the halfway point.

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>>14496234
>It's fine.
>I've only watched the first season

>>14496271
>>14496237
>>14496332
Is it at least bad enough to be funny?

>>14496351
>Is it at least bad enough to be funny?
Fuck no unless you're a masochist

>>14496351
It makes Gundam Seed Destiny look competently written

>>14496351
No, it takes itself seriously and that's almost the worst part of it.

>>14496351
I thought so
The drama is giggle worthy

If you only watch season 1 you might not kill yourself.

>>14496369
A show can take itself completely seriously and be absolutely hilarious if what actually happens is ridiculous and stupid

>>14496095
>Is this good

Pretty much yeah.

Watching it with /a/ made it way more entertaining than it should be.

But then again, the cuck meme kept being spammed for Aldnoah.Zero

Ending was terribad tho.

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>>14496399
>Watching it with /a/ made it way more entertaining than it should be.
This retardation never ceases to amaze me

>>14496420
>This retardation never ceases to amaze me

What's wrong with /a/? Retarded anime discussion is pretty fun.

>>14496149
>>14496161
>>14496234
I'm with these guys, but you should probably take it into account when the most ringing endorsement you're getting is, "It's not AS BAD as those other guys say it is."

It's not the worst thing I've ever seen. If you're interested in it then it might entertain you, but if you're on the fence already then you should probably back away. If you want to watch it then go for it, but I can't find a reason to sell you on it.

>>14496095
First season is ok, second season have issues and the end is shit.

I get pissed off just remembering. Fuck. FUCK FUCK FUCK THAT SHIT PRINCESS AND HER FUCKING PEACE GODDAMNIT WHY DIDN'T YOU KILL THAT BITCH M8 FUUUUUCK

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>>14496590
>FUCK FUCK FUCK THAT SHIT PRINCESS AND HER FUCKING PEACE GODDAMNIT WHY DIDN'T YOU KILL THAT BITCH M8 FUUUUUCK

I would fuck her brains out and jizz all over her mouth while she wares this outfit.

But yeah, an even worse Peace Princess than Kudelia.

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>>14496234
>>14496149
>>14496149
>>14496539
Notice how none of these retards actually give explanation for their reasoning. Usually the biggest sign of something being shit is when the people defending it's only excuse is "its not that bad".

>>14496482
Problem with that mindset is that it leads to anything being label as a retarded trainwreck when its just bad.

>>14496604
You have the worse fucking tastes in this thread.

>>14496963
>blonde
>those eyes
>that figure
>hair length
>kissing her alone grants alien power

>implying you fucking wouldn't

>>14496958
>he has to depend on dismantling other people's opinions to shit on a show

Weak bait, your next line will be that SEED Destiny is a better show.

>>14496958
>Notice how none of these retards actually give explanation for their reasoning. Usually the biggest sign of something being shit is when the people defending it's only excuse is "its not that bad".

Its pretty generic, most of what is complained about that takes place in the show applies to most mecha shows.

It doesn't have anything to compensate for that and the endings for both seasons were bad.

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>>14496958
Hey, so >>14496149 here. Sorry that two paragraphs doesn't meet your qualifications for "explanation" but I'll tl;dr it for you.

>decent-to-good mech design
>S1's plot was safe and predictable
>CG started shoddy but got better
>managed to get enough from S1 to watch S2
>S2 tried to get crazy but kept playing it safe
>show wasn't terrible overall
>would not watch more than once

Hope that narrowed it down enough for you man, I know that six sentences is a lot sometimes.

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>>14496963
Nigga you are gay.

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>>14497115

>>14497064
>most of what is complained about that takes place in the show applies to most mecha shows.
Nope. Even GSD had a developed setting

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>>14497095
>>14497064
>>14496994
>Still hasn't explained why the show isn't terrible

>>14497177
Christ, this.

>Mars has a resource shortage!
>They have the ability to tell the second law of thermodynamics to go fuck itself, which means they can build infinite energy generators.
>They have the ability to perfectly and endlessly replicate matter as long as they have energy

Which is just a drop in the bucket of all the nonsense the show throws at you and expects you to believe it has a coherent setting.

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>>14497064
>most of what is complained about that takes place in the show applies to most mecha shows.
Now /a/ its obvious that you don't watch much mecha anime but this isn't close to true

>>14497181
>>14497185
>>14497192
wew lad.

>>14497181
Being terrible implies that it was offensive, which I don't think it was. This show is like the plain white bread of the genre to me. It didn't do anything to stand out, good or bad.

It's decent until after they shoo off the second big guy. The way they took out the first big mech was pretty cool and luney tunes made the second one watchable, but after that it's shit.

>>14497216
>Being terrible implies that it was offensive, which I don't think it was
Then you have low as shit standards.

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>>14497235
The second guy was where i gave up on the series. Both the mech and its fight scenes were fucking retarded.

It's only superpower is that is has a giant plasma sword. It's not particularly fast, nor well armored, and it has no ranged weapons or any other tricks up its sleeve. All the earth forces needed to do was fucking move. At all. Instead, they stood there and let it slowly walk up to them while screaming and peeing their pants. It was pathetic.

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>>14497216
>shooting two characters in the season finale
>bring them back to life in the season premiere
I guess some people are susceptible to shit

>>14497243
>>14497251
stick to Destiny, faggots.

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>>14497246
yeah but

>>14496604
Didn't eggs drive off with his harem in a humvee anyways?

>>14497177
Not really no.

Destiny didn't add anything to Seed except for some evil arms dealers.

>>14497185
You might as well question why giant robots are used at all or why anything uses a pilot.

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The show as ok, but I just treat it like a long toy commercial.
The toys were not bad either.
Got the KG-7 on sale for less than 4000 yen.
Got the KG-7 Space version for under 8000 yen

too bad the Tharsis and the stupid Orange Kg-6 still expensive .

>>14497275
Actually it did.

People call Destiny shit because it pissed away its own foundations led to them when it was suppose to expand upon it. A/Z setting is barely explored in itself because so many details are left undefined.

>>14497286
>The show as ok
You tastes is horrible
>>14497283
Not even the point of his post you stupid fantard

>>14497296
>You tastes is horrible
Says the Destiny apologist.

>>14497311
>Thinks saying something is worse than destiny means you are praising destiny

A/Z fanboys, ladies and gentlemen.

>>14496095
yes

>>14497321
Not even the point of his post you stupid fantard

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>>14497341
>So completely BTFO, he can only repeat someone else even when it makes no sense at all

Sasuga, egglover

>>14497273
Eggs didn't have a harem, all he had at the end was Slained as his prisoner fuccboi.

>>14497358
>So completely BTFO, he can only call people names and post selfies

Sasuga, Destinyfaggot.

>>14497381
Well, here's your answer, OP. If you think 'I know you are but what am I' is the height of shitposting, you'll absolutely love A/Z.

>>14497386
Wow, you're retarded.
But I guess it's to be expected of a GSD fanboy.

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>>14497399
>keeps doing it

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>>14497409
Yep, you're retarded.

>>14497416
This is some meta-level shitposting. I think anon is trying to say (in his own autistic way) that A/Z reuses plot points to the point of absurdity. I.E. asshime dying and coming back like 3 times.

>>14497296
>Not even the point of his post you stupid fantard
You're flagrantly retarded.

Best girl, discuss

>>14497494
There isn't any.
There's bad girls like that shitty 10 year old advisor, but no real best girl.

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>>14497494

The first few episodes are good, but they get worse and worse as the show continues, and season 2 is completely awful.

It's another 'my children's cartoon about giant robots has more artistic merit than yours' thread, oh boy.

>>14496149
>The first season was oaky
No it was pretty bad.
>The designs were good
No they weren't. Not even of the kits really sold for shit which is what A-1 wanted.
>especially the knights' units
Especially not those in particular.
>mech CG feels slow and choppy
It feels that way through upwards to the first half of the second season. There are shows with CGI that aired several years before A/Z that are better then it in CGI mecha action and animation.
>it picks up pretty good
No it doesn't.
>starts to look fairly decent by the end of s1
No it doesn't. It gets even worse the longer you watch it.
>Season 2 was kind of a shit show.
It was just more of one then Season 1.

>>14496095
No, its almost as bad VVV but without at least an even stupid entertaining first season like the former had.

>Martian Humans are only separated by a few decades from Earth Humans
>Someone insanely believe they are a separate race who are superior to their Earthen kin
>Have a resource shortage yet somehow have mechs that can replicate themselves nigh infinitely and energy weapons up the ass that could fix several of the shortfalls in resources
>Hime is basically a Lacus clone who dies essentially several times in the show but in explicitly survives (red haired girl basically using her necklace like a garotte, getting basically blown up, shot in the head)
>writers after Butcher can't commit to anything
>Inaho isn't just bland he's almost totally robotic
>The main baddie in season 1 is revealed to survive (once again an asspull) only to die later off again
>every enemy is almost increasingly incompetent
>PTSD kun does nothing the entire series
Shit show.

>>14497745
>Someone
*Somehow

>>14497734
it's obvious don't like Aldnoah Zero, point taken.

>>14497755
If you want to subjugate yourself to watching it on Netflix in your free time go for it but don't have any expectations because the show doesn't fail to even give a lukewarm one, it just gets worse somehow.

Do whatever you want.

>>14497734
>no u

>>14497745
>still memeing Valvrave like a retard

wew, lad

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It has one of the best mecha designs in recent times.

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>>14498801
>It has one of the best mecha designs in recent times.

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>>14498801
>It has one of the best mecha designs in recent times.
Can you guess what theme this mecha has?

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>>14498801
>short stubby legs

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>>14498617

>>14498817
>That hilariously long combination sequence in the middle of a battle that the show is pretending is serious drama.

>>14498817
>>14498835
>>14498839
A/Z is the best shit taste magnet. It seems like everyone who praises any aspect of it has the plebest of tastes.

>>14498855
>I have all the powers of the previous mecha you defeated along with its weaknesses.

>>14498817
It still looks like the Lara Croft boob slider accident in mech form, only that it happened a dozen times.

>>14498817
>>14498835
>>14498839

There's nothing wrong with any of these

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>>14498890

>>14498895
epic_reaction_image.png.tiff.tga

>>14498817
Shadow the Hedgehog's final form?

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>>14498890
>>14498897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs

>>14498817
>>14498835
>>14498839

I was thinking about watching this despite all of the /m/ hate but holy fuck those are awful.

>>14498863
Except those powers weren't used together intelligently. Super armor and the disintegration field should've covered each others weaknesses perfectly, leaving a unit that was completely invulnerable while not being reliant on external sensors.

Instead, it was punked by a pistol.

It's good if you have balls to take feels.

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>>14498919
It gets worse.
>Who's that Pokemon?

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>>14498924

>Aldnoah Zero
>Feels

Subhuman

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>>14498839
I can't get over how retarded the legs on these things look.

Hey atleast it is not your standard basically human mech. It is a cool alien mech for once

>>14498930
Gundam GP-3

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>>14498930
Is The Grimace a Pokemon now?

>>14498941
>cool alien mech
>still uses the humanoid body plan

Honestly the Martian KPs needed to be more bizarre looking, but I guess that would require Martians having their own culture.

>>14498924
Yeah, like that time the princess was killed and everyone was sad! Oh wait, that was a body double.

Or that other time the princess was killed and everyone was sad! Oh wait eggCPR was applied so she got resurrected.

Or what other time the princess was shot in the fucking head and died, making everyone sad! Oh wait she was shoved in a tube for a while and then got better.

Yeah, this is some seriously hard hitting emotional stuff.

It likes to play with your feels.

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>>14498941
>cool
I've seen better mecha designs off a deviant art page

>>14498839
>y-y-you guys like Nagano and the Quebley right?

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>>14498940
And the backside is even worse looking.

Your time would be better spent watching other shows you haven't seen yet.

Aldnoah should be low priority.

At least we can agree that this is better than that abomination G-Reco right?

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>>14499093

>>14499093
Yes.

>>14498617
Gr8 b8

>>14499140
Then stick to it :^)

Why the fuck should any of you care what other people like?

This board can go fuck itself up the ass when it tries to talk about 'taste', it has people who like AGE and Valvrave and Cross Ange flocking about, and they're fucking cartoons. Who gives a damn?

>>14499093
I like how these two shows cause so much ass-pain in /m/.

I liked both.

>>14499366
>being this mad that your taste is shit
ayy

>>14499366
Because A/Z is legitimately awful unless you honestly want to be fine with watching a show that repeatedly insults the viewer's intelligence. Then I mean, go for it.

>>14499547

What, and most other shows don't do the exact same thing, but A/Z gets flak because of an ostentatious statement from its studio's director?

>>14499600
What do you mean "What"?

>>14499547
>t. deluded Destinyfaggot

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>>14499600
>and most other shows don't do the exact same thing,
Gee anon, what show which premise is that a single grunt training unit can take down special powerful mechs that leave everything in dust except for the training unit?

>>14499618
>Destinyfaggot
Even Destiny is better then A/Z, you dumbass.

>>14499647
You just described half of Gundam

>>14499662
Which Gundam series has a training unit being used by the main character and beating everything that's super powered prototype stuff?

>>14499676
Yeah I guess kids with no mlitary training whatsoever stumbling into machines beating trained veterans is much better

>>14499647
They establish that the only difference between the training unit and the combat version is the armor and heavier armor wouldn't have done any good at any point. There are plenty of mecha shows where the main character's robot isn't any better than anybody else's but he still gets by on his personal skill, and most of those feature teenage MCs who don't have formal combat training.

>>14499647

No, I meant insulting the viewer's intelligence, which a lot of anime does plenty of. It's not fucking fine art.

Also, it's funny that you complain about that, yet you're on a board that has no qualms with the host of other problem plaguing mecha as a genre. Or things that are perceived to be plaguing it.

What frustrates me most is that the show could at least have been decent if Inaho or the princess were killed off in the S1 finale.

We wouldn't have had the terrible UNDERSTANDING shit if the princess died, and the Earth side would have to learn to cope with fighting without Inaho if he died so it would have at least been somewhat interesting.

>>14499702
Nice goal post moving, retard.

>>14499767
Took you long enough to look up your epic reply .txt you literal retard taking things literally :^)

>>14499709
>They establish that the only difference between the training unit and the combat version is the armor and heavier armor wouldn't have done any good at any point.
Then there's no point with the distinction or even pointing it out to begin with, hell your point turns to shit automatically because they abandoned it in the second season just to give it a regular one but paint it orange.

> There are plenty of mecha shows where the main character's robot isn't any better than anybody else's but he still gets by on his personal skill, and most of those feature teenage MCs who don't have formal combat training.
Wrong on both accounts dumbass. In Gundam the protagonist always have the latest protottype thus avoiding the issue altogether.

>>14499715
All I'm hearing is a bunch of bullshit with no facts or evidence. Almost like you can't defend a bad anime without insulting other anime. You wanna know why G-Reco, TRY, Cross Ange and Fafner don't get called out for the same issues A/Z had? Because it doesn't have the same issues.

>>14499787
>that delusion
Epic.

>>14499864

No, instead they have entirely different issues that people gloss over, despite the fact that they commit offences that are just as bad or worse, because every board needs its boogeyman.

>>14499864
>Fafner
>the show where only the super special snowflake japanese models piloted by super special snowflake japanese test tube babies are allowed to accomplish anything meaningful

k

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>>14499709
What does that have to do with anything he said? In fact you just made he distinction pointless because there was no reason for him to be in that unit at all.

Nope, the only mecha anime that did this was Votoms and Chirico kept losing his Scopedog constantly unlike A/Z. It didn't matter how good of a pilot Chirico was if the unit had paper thin armor or wasn't effectivite due to the gap in model difference hence why he got beat several times during the course of the show and ironically enough when he gained his own custom unit in the last few episodes of the series he took out an entire army. Every Gundam anime also avoid this issue by having the MC pilot a prototype so they can take down enemy units with the prowess of the machine rather then skill until they eventually get better at the end of the show. Wonder why no mecha anime did what A/Z did? Because it was fucking stupid.

>>14499910
Well A/Z tries to balance it out like "ok we got a mass produced unit, but the pilot is a turbo level autist with an IQ of infinite, he's the Lelouch of Combat" but the problem is just that the powerlevel between the technologies is so vast that it turns a bit comical if not retarded. Add that to the fact that no one else on earth was capable of a single logical thought except for him, makes it even harder to swallow.

Season 2 went just full retard

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>>14499895
>despite the fact that they commit offences that are just as bad or worse
Still not seeing any evidence kid.

>>14499908
>accomplish anything meaningful
>all their efforts are constantly rendered futile and they wind up losing more than what they gained

Did Inaho and the UEF lose anything meaningful in the end? They now have access to the most perish resource in the universe which was produced by a dying planet with a broken economy who needed that to flourish so pretty much nobody can oppose them meanwhile Kazuki most fight an everlasting battle for the rest of his life on an island in which he can't leave while taking care of his best friend turned infant as more festum continue to invade because their efforts just wasn't enough to stop them.

>>14499934
Season 1 was full retard as well, that's the point your missing.

>>14499953
Sure Destiny-kun

>>14499910
>Nope, the only mecha anime that did this was Votoms

How's the view from mount stupid?

I hear it's full of dumb shit like what you just said.

>>14499958
Okay Valvrager-kun.

>>14499910
Even fucking Gasaraki, the most "realistic" mecha anime ever, had the protagonist get a special prototype. I'm not sure if the premise of A/Z sounded cool on paper but it always seem like something set for fail.

>>14499967
VVV was better than Destiny

>>14499945
mang I want more mimika

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>>14499960
Come back when you have an argument.

>>14499978
Their both absolute dogshit garbage, retard.

>>14499992
Sup Valvrager.

>>14499945

Well, if you want to blind yourself to G-Reco's slapdash storytelling, awkward dialogue, poor editing, flat characters and the fact that Tomino himself said he was sorry that he couldn't make the show better, be my guest.

Similarly for Try being a painfully obvious rush-job to capitalize on financial gain with a hopeless alteration of BF's central premise as its main gimmick that didn't work, characters that either served no purpose or ran counter to the very virtues the show claimed to extol, shitty choreography, superfluous ties to its predecessor that were misused and a lead that faces absolutely no challenge in anything he does because punching is the best medicine.

>because their efforts just wasn't enough to stop them.

You mean Xebec doesn't have the common courtesy to end things and wants more sweet moolah, sure.

Fafner's amusing, too, really; no-one gave a shit about it until Exodus aired, with most people being content to pass it off as a thoroughly mediocre quasi-clone of Eva, and then everyone suddenly says it's the best thing ever.

>>14499997
Sup Valvrager:

>>14499978
>>14499958
>>14499787

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>>14500015
Sup Valvrager:

>>14499969
>Even fucking Gasaraki, the most "realistic" mecha anime ever, had the protagonist get a special prototype.

The Raiden is barely a special prototype.

A prototype, perhaps. But the only thing that was special about it was that its pilot is a mystical conduit for summoning ancient aliens and as such can cause really fucking crazy voodoo to occur with regards to a TA's musculature. But the Raiden itself? It's vanilla as fuck.

Compared to the rival Ishtar, it has some ups and downs, mostly a consequence of Gowa Industries having the superior Mile One sample so the Raiden's mobility is comparatively excellent, but at the same time SYMBOL had more experience fielding the Ishtar as a weapon as reflected by its design being evocative of a conventional combat vehicle.

The Raiden's successor model, the Shinden, is itself more a pre-production case, and its improvements are largely in battery capacity.

Ultimately, in Gasaraki's case, there is not much in the way of tech advantage. Rather, it's a matter of utilization experience, as kugai-type weaponry has not been a thing in its setting since the feudal ages.

>>14500027
Why did you edit out the other (You), Valvrager?

>>14499999
>slapdash storytelling, awkward dialogue, poor editing, flat characters
You being retarded does not mean G-Reco
>and the fact that Tomino himself said he was sorry that he couldn't make the show better,
No he's saying that he's sorry that idiots like you couldn't follow it not the shit ANN wrote.
>Similarly for Try being a painfully obvious rush-job to capitalize on financial gain with a hopeless alteration of BF's central premise
Newflash dummy. BF was main to make money and even the first season was a hackneyed job made of the remains of an establish property only they decided to put lots of Gundam references and cute girls in it to disguise the fact that you are watching a toy commercial
>its shitty because I say so
Great argument.

>You mean Xebec doesn't have the common courtesy to end things and wants more sweet moolah, sure.
Nah because unlike A/Z it was made by people who gave a shit and it just so happens that the story reached its conclusion on a somber note that left everyone satisfied also unlike A/Z.

> no-one gave a shit about it until Exodus aired
Just because you weren't here until last years doesn't mean it wasn't discussed before then you have even less of an excuse because we've known about the sequel coming for years after the release of the movie
>mediocre quasi-clone of Eva,
Oh you're just shitposting. Nevermind

>>14500042

You're implying I'd do the work to edit shit out ?
there's no (YOU) missing my friend which leads to the only conclusion we're multiple guys arguing with each other acting like there's only 2 guys arguing

>>14500048
>You're implying I'd do the work to edit shit out.
Seeing how it takes literally 2 seconds in Firefox or Opera or Chrome or any other web browser, yes.

And I'm still wondering why you are calling me "Destiny-kun".

>>14499945
>muh tragedy porn

If I wanted to jack off to people dying senselessly I'd read a Kitoh manga.

>>14500053
The same reason you're calling me Valvrager

>>14499864
>>14499910
Are you seriously unable to distinguish between in-universe and out-of-universe?

The main character pilots a different unit so that you can tell which one is the main character during the battles. That it's a training unit is the in-universe explanation for why it looks different. It's just to provide an explanation for why his is identifiable, but it has no effect on the narrative.

>In Gundam the protagonist always have the latest protottype thus avoiding the issue altogether.

Past 0079 everyone has beam weapons that can kill a Gundam as easily as they can kill anyone else, and even then there's incidents like Seabook stepping into a mobile suit for the first time ever and getting more kills with a broken-down Guntank than any of the trained fed pilots using Jegans.

>hell your point turns to shit automatically because they abandoned it in the second season just to give it a regular one but paint it orange.

This is just not true. There's even a brief scene where an officer questions why they requisitioned the training unit just to tell the audience that he's still using one.

>Nope, the only mecha anime that did this was Votoms and Chirico kept losing his Scopedog constantly unlike A/Z.

He only loses one per story arc, which is the same rate that Inaho loses his Slepnirs at. VOTOMS is just longer.

That still leaves stuff like Southern Cross and Nadesico, where the alien robots are supposed to be superior to the human ones but still lose every battle anyway. Tanikaze's garde in Knights of Sidonia is supposed to be inferior to all of the others, but he outperforms them anyway. Dunbine is stated to be a mediocre Aura Battler, but a kid from a world where no such thing exists still defeats armies of supposedly better ones.

There's tons of, "The bad guy's robot is better, but the MC is just that good," stuff in mecha shows. It'd be harder to find a show that never uses the cliche.

>Just because you weren't here until last years doesn't mean it wasn't discussed before then you have even less of an excuse because we've known about the sequel coming for years after the release of the movie

I've been here since a good while before Unicorn first aired, frienderino, and before Exodus even hit screens I hardly ever saw a single Fafner thread.

Sorry that no-one gave a shit about something niche until Xebec remembered that the movie kind of left things a bit unfinished, so they greenlit a series now written entirely by a shameless wife-beater.

>durr durr retard

Well, you know, I'd say I expected better from someone who likes G-Reco, but given the disposition of your ilk, clearly I was mistaken.

>you are watching a toy commercial

No, with Gundam? You fucking think so?

How does that answer how godawful Try was, by the way?

>left everyone satisfied

Except the suits, evidently.

>>14500070
Nah, think harder. You're spouting the same textbook shit that Valvrager does, almost verbatim since 2013. That is why I'm calling you Valvrager.

>>14500128
>The main character pilots a different unit so that you can tell which one is the main character during the battles.
The more you try to explain it the more stupider it sounds.

>Past 0079 everyone has beam weapons that can kill a Gundam as easily as they can kill anyone else
What the fuck are you talking about? Nothing I stated is wrong because every Gundam MC starts out with a prototype or the latest model. What you wrote is bullshit and doesn't disprove anything.
> There's even a brief scene where an officer questions why they requisitioned the training unit just to tell the audience that he's still using one.
Wrong, the unit was abandoned in the timeskip. He never kept the same one in the second season

>He only loses one per story arc, which is the same rate that Inaho loses his Slepnirs at.
Nope. He loses two throughout the grand duration of the story and that's only in the first season where he doesn't loses it at all. Chirico has a new Scopedog twice per arc because the previous ones kept getting destroyed.
>where the alien robots are supposed to be superior to the human ones but still lose every battle anyway
What the fuck are you talking about? The Jovians beat the Aestivalis on almost every occasion since they weren't that strong at all and the only reason they ever stood a chance is because of the Nadesico itself not any of the pilots. Even in the movie it too Akito everything he had to take down the big bad.
>Tanikaze's garde in Knights of Sidonia is supposed to be inferior to all of the others, but he outperforms them anyway
It's not inferior its an older model that only he can pilot because he has experience with using it more times than now, they actually had to spruce it up on sorties so that it doesn't lag behind.
> Dunbine is stated to be a mediocre Aura Battler
What? The Dunbine was said to be special from its first encounter none of the pilots used it to its full potential except for Shou hence why they didn't scrap it later.

> Every Gundam anime also avoid this issue by having the MC pilot a prototype so they can take down enemy units with the prowess of the machine

>every prototype in gendum is inherently superior

Mk II, tho

>>14500128
>>14500138
Wow these are some shitty ass examples especially since none of them are stock grunt training units rather just old ass tech are latent power mechs that wasn't unlocked to their full potential until the MC came.

>>14500138
>and before Exodus even hit screens I hardly ever saw a single Fafner thread.
So you're lying now? Got it

>Sorry that no-one gave a shit about something niche until Xebec remembered that the movie kind of left things a bit unfinished, so they greenlit a series now written entirely by a shameless wife-beater.
Uhh...except the sequel series was greenlighted at the same time as the movie came into theaters which was 5 years prior to it premiere. Many people knew about this here I guess you just weren't present like you claimed.

And thanks for proving my point retard

>How does that answer how godawful Try was, by the way?
Just showing how really stupid and hypocritical you are for shitty on a sequel show that was essentially the same as the original.

>Except the suits, evidently.
Well I wouldn't believe a damn thing you see after you've displayed your own lack of knowledge on the field.

>>14500200
>Mk II, tho
But it was...until it was replaced.

>>14500178
I havent even been on /m/ in the past 2 years and only came back a week ago, because I finally have time again to watch anime.

>>14500202
Welp, you are an idiot.

>>14500200
Until you had other high end prototypes or super mobile suits out, yes. Even the top dog MP mobile suit like the GM III is only roughly on par performance wise with the Gundam MK II.

>>14500208
>...

stop that shit.

Also the Mk II is the biggest WOWIT'SFUCKINGNOTHING to bear the name Gundam short of the Zephyranthes, the movable frame is nowhere near as big a breakthrough as miniaturized beam weaponry.

>>14500202

>your own lack of knowledge on the field.

Lack of knowledge with regards to what? Claims you have made, without substantiating them? Like your statement about Exodus being greenlit and announced at the same time the movie was released, when that is factually wrong, as it was announced almost a year later in July 2011?

>same as the original

In that they were both designed to sell toys, but it's okay, not all of us have a working pair of eyes with which to read other things.


>So you're lying now? Got it

Sure I am. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Your upjumped little tragedy porn barely saw the light of day until Exodus somehow made it great.

>>14500212
>U STOOPID
Great argument
>>14500240
>as it was announced almost a year later in July 2011?
And now everyone knows you're fucking liar. So not only did you scramble to find this information proving that you weren't actually here during Heaven and Earth's release in which it was unveiled to be only part I of the Fafner Project with a sequel to be announced within the upcoming months you went ahead and used the announcement as sorts when every already knew from the get go much like everyone knew what G-Reco was before it was announced three years prior to Tomino stating that he was creating it? You are some piece of work

>NO U

Once again...great argument,

>I didn't know what Fafner was until 2015 so that means nobody did

Look at you saying such untrue things.

>>14500273
Are all Fafnerfags this retarded?

>>14500273

>in which it was unveiled to be only part I of the Fafner Project with a sequel to be announced within the upcoming months

[citation needed], because even a cursory examination seems to indicate that you're full of shit.

>nobody talking about it means that no-one knows what it is and not that a work is just unpopular and generally not noteworthy

Just keep talking, you get dumber by the post.

>>14500303
>>14500288
>>14500273
>>14500240
[YU]

>>14500303
>because even a cursory examination seems to indicate that you're full of shit.
My dear faggot you only quoted when Exodus was OFFICIALLY announced not when it was known.

>>14500288
>>14500303
>NO U STOOPID

Inspiring

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>>14500217
> Mk II is the biggest WOWIT'SFUCKINGNOTHING
>Retcon
>1991 Stardust memory

At this point, any Gundam until Unicorn are wowfuckingnothing because of pic related.
if we remain in the context of 0086, the MK II was a good unit.

>>14500311

Okay, since you've already accepted the burden of proof in this matter, enlighten me. When was it 'known', hm? That's very nebulous and evasive, don't you think? I request exact dates and specific articles, because hey, you have the know-how to talk the talk, right?

>>14500313
RX-78 introduced beam weaponry that could be carried by normal mobile suits.

MSZ-06 practically perfected the concept of a transformable mobile suit.

Between those two lies RX-178, whose only claim to fame is increased dexterity due to a new philosophy of construction. It's fucking nothing.

>>14500324
>RX-78-2 introduced portable beam weapons and Luna Titanium armor for MS
>Zeong and Elemeth made use of the psycommu which created a connection for NT pilots to further enhance their control and sensory input in combat
>Mark II brought in the movable frames
>Zeta Gundam has its whole MS/MA mode merged together along side the bio-sensor which can further augment a NT pilot's abilities
>Nu Gundam gave us psychoframes which makes the entire MS react faster to the NT pilot's thoughts and react faster then traditional or conventional means which completely cover the entire cockpit
>Unicorn ups this with the psychoframe concept not only in the cockpit but also in the entirety of the suit; also brings in NT-D which allows its to counter on NT/Cyber-NT pilots powers and hijack their funnels/bits

Tech progression is serious business in Gundam.

>>14500357
I think that Unicorn is the point that everyone's like "yeah maybe we should dial this shit back a bit." Apparently the Axis Shock didn't scare people away from psychoframe superscience, but boy should Unicorn have been a wakeup call to the crazy that ensues with that stuff.

So then you get F91 which... well ok the F91 is like a proto-WZC in a sense so fuck that. Skip ahead to Victory and we're at the point that Gundam has become the mass production marketslut it was destined to be, both in and out of the fiction.

>Mecha Illuminated By Its Own Glow

it's just a shitty wannabe of MLAIOS

>>14500383
Its also worth noting that Newtypes becoming increasingly less common in conflicts as UC progresses into F91's time and onwards.

>>14496095
It make Gundam Seed Destiny looks good.

>>14496351
No, it's absolute bore fest.

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>>14498994
>>14498940
Didn't like the fin sticking out of the back, but I didn't mind the legs as it did more of an armored core hover when it was on ground.

>>14499449
It causes ass pain because it has a lot of generic attributes but /m/ can't admit to that.

>>14497527
A/Z at least had cute girls. Yuki-nee, Inko and Rayet are deliciously fuckable.

That said they're all retarded.

>>14505779
Too much sameface to care.

>>14496095
i enjoyed it, I give it a solid 6 out of 10

>>14505779
Inko best, pleasantly surprised she survived the show.

Shame she contributed nothing to the show.

>>14496095
no

>>14505911
"It was okay, 10/10"

>>14499934

They did it with Twin Gemini as well except the male lead was a hot blooded hero with his sis and dad being the PHYSICS! Pilot

>>14496095
>Is this good
It's fuckable, but the end ruined for me.

>>14496095
The premise of "autist & co. use weak mecha to defeat basically magical god machines using cunning and tactics" was good, but the fights almost never capitalized on it well enough. The MC turned out to be too much of a Gary Stu, and the Peace Princess turned out to be especially stupid even by Peace Princess standards.

I'd say it's worth watching once, assuming the first couple episodes don't turn you off it entirely. But not really worth anything more than that.