Devilman

no.

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Is Jack /m/?

>>14447774
Pretty much anything Dynamico Pro is /m/

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If any mods are browsing please make this the thread music.

>>14447477
Uh....

>>14447861
Is that Zetman?

More /m/ than toku

>>14447861
>>14447866
Zetman / Devilman hybrid.

>>14447477
I love the dark shading. Reminds me of Mignola's art.


No all we need is for Devilman to wear a Guyver unit.

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Posting OC

>>14449808
Make Demons great again.

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>>14449808
Well done.

Any chart that shows how the various OVAs and manga interact?

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>>14449808

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>>14449828
Working on finishing it up, but this is the current state it's in.

>>14449823
Is the Amon OVA any good? I know it strays from the manga which I kinda liked.

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>>14449844
I liked it. It has a fitting fatalistic mood and looks great.

>>14449838
I absolutely love you, anon. You are amazing.

>>14449844
Not really, it looks alright but it's not very interesting and just focuses on fight scenes for the most part.

how does honorary /m/ work?

do you just drop trou on the rules because you're too pussy to post on /a/?

>>14449918
Fuck off, moron.

>>14449887
It doesn't even do the dinosaur age part which I wish it did.

>>14449949
>Fuck off, moron.
Translation: "yes".

>>14449949
fuck off, pedro.

>>14449918
>how does honorary /m/ work?
Anything that you can get away with if the mods don't remove it regularly.

>>14447449
Not really, no.
There are a couple of people who will insist that there's some unwritten rule that anything by Uncle Go is /m/, though. I've even seen a Kama Sutra manga that was literally graphic instructions on how to suck dick, and the thread stayed up for like two days.

Of course that was probably because the janitor at the time was too busy deleting any and every negative comment in the Robot Girls Z threads to notice anything else.

Well, if it manages to be enter Super Robot Wars, then, maybe yes.

BTW, there was a survey around the time SRW V was announced, asking which series would you like to see in next game. Devilman was in there (just as 'Devilman', no specifics).

>>14447504
Woah, did Yoshitaka Amano do this?

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>>14450270
Yes, I think it was for an Devilman illustration book with art by various notable artists.

>>14449828

Read the original and forget about the rest for your own good.

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>>14449838

I'm with Spidey here >>14451149.
Canonpoofs are the worst. Why can't you just enjoy things as the stand-alone stories that they are instead of pointlessly trying to piece them all together? What gratification do you get out of imagining all these unrelated stories fit in a single timeline?

>>14450080
OP posted a robot, you are a retard

>>14447449
Nope, but your mom is. I mean, she's big, have rusty joints and can only be tamed by my joystick.

I go into dat gape she call The Cock Pit.

>>14451229
Pedro pls

>>14451149
>>14451175
This is the official canon according to Go Nagai, who's own work is pretty all over the place canonically, but still this chart isn't just guess work.

He's reneged on Violence Jack being the follow up to Devilman in favor of Devilman Lady and stated that Devil Knight is the first instalment and Devilman Saga is the last.
Everything listed as canonically connected was written by Go Nagai himself or officially stated as such. And everything listed as an adaptation of the manga or other source material is obviously so. Dynamic Pro even released a far more abridge flow chart back around 2000 or so and this one just expands on that with more contemporary materials.

I'm at a loss as to why /m/ has so many fucking stupid people like yourselves, who make your stupidity obvious for absolutely no god damned reason. I mean there is perfectly acceptable reasons to get ahead of yourself and end up in an escalating internet discussion where you're talking out your ass, we've all been there, but c'mon now. Seriously, anymore when browsing /m/ I feel like I've time traveled back to the early 2000s where newfags literally didn't know even know the most basic principles of interacting with other people online and just randomly argued about shit and pretended to know stuff simply out of principle of stupidity.

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>>14450080
>unwritten rule that anything by Uncle Go is /m/
Mostly because /m/ knows more about him than /a/ and actually recognises his works. Besides, if you've ever seen Devilman on /a/ before, you'd know it's all memes. Here, we can at least try to have a civil discussion.

>>14451680
Having a discussion about anything on /a/ that isn't about the latest harem anime or romcom is virtually impossible.

If something is actually interesting, unique or might appeal to non-anime fans it's simply labeled "Manime" and dismissed as juvenile garbage because they feel they've lost "ownership" of it or fear losing "ownership" of it, because it's no fun if everyone likes something. For example, early on much of /a/ shunned Attack on Titan because they knew it would be the next big thing with "normers" so they cried 'sour grapes' from the get go.

Similarly, anything that predates their personal discovery of Anime is by default "overrated shit" because what's even the point of liking something if you couldn't get in on the ground floor.

There honestly isn't a single board on all of 4chan with such an unwarranted sense of superiority and self worth and God help your miserable forsaken soul if you even dare to ask for the source of anything no matter how obscure or same-faced.

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>>14451778
Right on the money. Tried to have an badly hilarious old ova thread from the Manga Entertainment line and beep nothing. I've half the mind to try posting it here on /m/.

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>>14451680
>Besides, if you've ever seen Devilman on /a/ before, you'd know it's all memes.
Did someone say memes?

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>>14452874
Where did you find this?!

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Updated, still working on it though.

>>14452901
> Lesbians cosplaying as fags

Freud knew...

Do any of you folks happen to have the Devilman coffee ad?

I don't even know why I care so much.

>>14447494

>tfw reading devilman and devilman lady while listening to Venom's entire discography

also, it would make more sense to post a GenoCyber track, since GenoCyber seems to be pretty heavily inspired by Devilman, at least in terms of body horror, monster design, general cynicism, and apocalyptic tone.

>>14453235
But the continuity is completely wrong. Why would you waste so much time being so wrong?

>>14456673
How so? How is the continuity wrong?

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>>14456676

>>14456793
Thanks for the notations, but those are really only minor, and since Violence Jack is a sequel to Devilman (albeit reneged canon) it still has a place though I will make a point of differentiating it from the canon story. I'll definitely use your input to adjust the chart.

>>14456824
Violence Jack is a sequel to Devilman as much as it is a sequel to Gakuen Taikutsu Otoko. Which is to say that it's not and is just a non-continuity story featuring those characters. The direct continuity between Devilman and Devilman Lady completely rules out Violence Jack.

Also
>but those are really only minor
You're making a continuity chart and you say correct continuity is really only minor? Bro.

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>>14456901
I'm still working on the Demon Lord Dante section so it's inconsequential whether those are right now or not.

Also, Violence Jack was a sequel until Devilman Lady was made, now it's just supplemental canon which I'll make sure to list as such. I'd gladly just rule it out as non-canon cameos if it weren't for the fact that the Devilman characters play such a significant role in the conclusion of Violence Jack.

I appreciate your input, but you're being pretty melodramatic about it.

>>14456901
So does Dante's Divine comedy play any canonical part in the Devilman canon or is it merely a negligible supplement?

Is it also fair to say that Mao Dante isn't canon with the Devilman continuity in any way shape or form even though both Dante's Divine comedy are and Mao Dante himself appear in Devil Man Lady?

>>14456940
>I'm still working on the Demon Lord Dante section so it's inconsequential whether those are right now or not.
Completely wrong, because you would have continued to make those errors without my input.
>Violence Jack was a sequel until Devilman Lady was made
I don't give a fuck, stop making excuses for your incompetence.
>now it's just supplemental canon
It's not canon, stop trying to save face.
>I'd gladly just rule it out as non-canon cameos if it weren't for the fact that the Devilman characters play such a significant role in the conclusion of Violence Jack.
You're literally just making up your own canon now. Pathetic. I thought this was supposed to be factual?
>I appreciate your input, but you're being pretty melodramatic about it.
I'm not here to spare your glass feelings.

>>14457205
>So does Dante's Divine comedy play any canonical part in the Devilman canon or is it merely a negligible supplement?
The Divine Comedy manga is just an adaption of Dante's work. It does not integrate Go Nagai's own work. However, the original Devilman manga assumes that the Divine Comedy was an actual truthful event that happened in that universe.
>Is it also fair to say that Mao Dante isn't canon with the Devilman continuity in any way
The Demon Lord Dante manga series aren't canon to Devilman and are unrelated to it. However, Devilman Lady does feature a different version of Demon Lord Dante that features a similar role to the original.

Devilman continuity is incredibly simple, people. It essentially works like this: Devilman and Devilman Lady are one canon. This is the main series. Devilman Saga might be part of that but I haven't read it yet. Everything else is supplemental material, that may or may not fit into the Devilman and Devilman Lady canon, but should never be considered hard canon with them.

>>14457281
Wow you are a full on sperg lord.

I would have corrected it with further research and you pointing it out just saved me the time of looking it up.

Hey, you're not that same autist that was going off about people fapping to porn of fandoms they weren't apart of are you? /m/ seems to have a disproportionate amount of spergs like yourself compared to the rest of 4chan.

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>>14457281
Look at this guy here. /m/'s very own badass, that's right, don't you let anyone make even the slightest mistake without dragging them through hell over it. You show them. NO TOLLERANCE FOR LEARNING! YOU'RE EITHER BORN WITH EVERYTHING OR NOTHING! LET'S BURN A MAN'S LIFE FORCE!

>>14457365
You sound incredibly, analpained.
>Hey, you're not that same autist that was going off about people fapping to porn of fandoms they weren't apart of are you?
This delusion is very unbecoming. Not everyone is the same person, you know?
>/m/ seems to have a disproportionate amount of spergs
Or maybe you just get into pissing matches with everyone because you're a cunt? Shove off, lad. Take your little chart with you.

And if you want to complain about /m/ being so bad, then maybe you should post about Devilman on the correct board.

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>>14457391
> post work-in-progress chart and ask everyone what they think so far
> this guy comes out of left field calling it shit and throwing a fucking fit over a few mistakes
> polite rebut him and thank him for his input
> this somehow only enrages him further
> then accuses me of being analpained and starting pissing matches

Do you roid or what's the deal here? This escalation of conflict was entirely one sided on your part and went from 0 to 60 without the least bit of provocation.

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>>14457281
Easy there Judge Dredd.

You realize all your harsh criticisms of that chart only hold water if it were presented as the final version, which it was not, the guy even said it wasn't finished. If someone is mistaken on something like a work in progress, correct them constructively, don't go all asspurger. Saying that it's not your job to coddle people doesn't make your behavior excusable or somehow the other person's fault. You're not fighting the final boss friend, you don't need to show your true power level. Just sit back and take a chill pill, it'll all be okay, trust me.

Maybe /k/ is more suited to someone of your temperment?

>>14457402
How it actually happened
>you post chart
>you get told its wrong
>I make helpful image showing how
>you try to sound diplomatic but your post just says how it was all really minor and that your mistakes don't count because you aren't done (lol)
>I point how your logical fallacies
>apparently I wasn't nice enough to you
>so now you're just bitching ad infinitum about how mean I am
The salt is real

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>>14457423
Dude, we can see all of your posts above where you roid out over it interjecting expletives as every other word and just flat out insulting the person. Hell you didn't even post your "helpfull" chart until asked after rudely calling the chart shit like some tourettes patient.

You've been nothing but needleslly hostile and toxic from the get go.

>>14457423
So what other hobbies do you have besides insulting people, abusing logical fallacies and spamming contemporary memes?

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>>14457423

Now I shall proceed to make fun of posts made by you or by idiots like you.

>>14457376
>tries to assert butthurt
>while posting butthurt
Also
>NO TOLLERANCE FOR LEARNING!
why would you try to make a chart encompassing an entire series if you don't know everything you need to know? That's literally stupid.

>>14457402
>>14457444
>why aren't you nice to me

I find this one particularly funny
>>14457423
>you try to sound diplomatic but your post just says how it was all really minor and that your mistakes don't count because you aren't done (lol)
Because you are actually doing it
>>14457422
>that chart only hold water if it were presented as the final version, which it was not
>>14457365
>I would have corrected it with further research
Loving every laugh to be honest

this guy really can't take any criticism about his chart, can he

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>>14457465
I haven't seen this much try-hard and obvious transparency since the mid 2000s. /m/ truly is a time capsule of the internet.

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>>14457465
> ad hominem

/discussion

Oh by the way, here's how my chart's coming along, hope you like it. :)

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And some more fixes

Anyone know what those Devilman novels are about?

It ended quite brutal, didn't it?

>>14457691
True Devilman (later revised as "Devilman: The Novel") is a retelling of the Devilman manga by Go Nagai's brother with illustrations by Go himself. It was primarily the basis for the first two OVAs, of which the first OVA was novelized into "Devilman: The Birth".

The Cyborg 009 vs Devilman novel is a prequel to the OVA.

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Best thread on /m/ right now.

>>14457465
>if you don't know everything you need to know
And apparently you don't know any better, because Devilman Lady doesn't rule out Violence Jack as a sequel.

So yeah, you're the idiot here.

>>14447449
Not even close

I just started reading Devilman Lady and is it a major plot-point at some point further into the story that the entire world is apparently normal again even though it's also apparently after the events of Devilman? What's up with that? Is this some kind of side-story/alternate-take thing or is this some crazy future world-reset type stuff?

>>14461651
The world was reset as if Devilman never happened. It's a direct sequel.

>>14461763
Okay, cool.

>>14461232
You must be fairly new here.

Easiest way to tell if someone is new on /m/ is if they start going off on what is or isn't /m/ (though in your defense the OP did ask). I mean you can argue that Devilman isn't /m/ because the subject matter clearly isn't, but to say not even close, c'mon. Even if you discount Uncle Go altogether you still have the fact that every crossover Devilman has been in (Mazinger Z, Mazinger Angels, Getter Robo, Hades (Mazinger Z), Cyborg 009) has been /m/. Even the 70s Anime had Ultraman/Tokusatsu elements in it.

>>14457601

What does the adaptation link mean?

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>>14457733
>Go Nagai's brother
Any info on him?

>>14462816
Means one was adapted from the other (one on the right or lower being the adaptation)

>>14463445
Not that I know of, just that I guess almost all of Go Nagai's family works at Dynamic Pro with him.

>>14463445
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasutaka_Nagai

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B0%B8%E4%BA%95%E6%B3%B0%E5%AE%87

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%B0%B8%E4%BA%95-%E6%B3%B0%E5%AE%87/e/B003UVXISM

http://gonagai.wikia.com/wiki/Yasutaka_Nagai

https://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=19044

>>14447449
humongous monster != humongous mecha

>>14467851
Surprising that no one bats an eye at Godzilla then?

Devilman at least fused with a mech in OP's pic.

>>14467855
Godzilla actually has mechs in it, I've never read Devilman so I couldn't say if it's the same.

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>>14467907
Nice face.

>>14467864
look at op. that's a mech.

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So has Devilman G been scantilated yet? How about Devilman vs Hades?

Why does this stuff get so little attention in the english speaking world?

>>14457601
So is this the best version? Anybody has anything to add?

>>14468953
Devilman doesn't need a chart, as with all Go Nagai properties.

You just go in chronological order of release, and everything makes sense as long as you read the original Devilman.

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>>14468812
People were working on G, but I'm unsure if they still are. As for why this gets so little attention? That's because nobody cares, it's not mainstream and doesn't have fanservice or giant anime titties. That, and the fact that the manga isn't readily available or released in the US.

>>14471129
>People were working on G, but I'm unsure if they still are.
Mangalism supposedly is, but the problem is that their website hasn't been updated in ages, so you have to rely on Baka-Updates (of all things) to gauge progress. Even then though, they haven't done much lately.

>>14468818
that poor deviljho

>>14468812
Considering it only took 15 years for Neo Devilman to be scantilated... no.

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>>14471694
Don't count since it was released. That's just dumb. It's like saying it took decades for the original Devilman to be scanlated.

>>14471302
But wouldn't it appear on online reader sites when they release new chapters so then you'd know? Anyway, how long is G?

>>14472225
>But wouldn't it appear on online reader sites when they release new chapters so then you'd know?
It does. If Mangafox is any indication though, it's still not very far. http://mangafox.me/manga/devilman_grimoire/
> Anyway, how long is G?
Five volumes.

>>14451778
>when /a/s Berserk & Jojo threads are so bad you have to put up with browsing fuckin reddit
I dont understand why they have mod presence everywhere yet the pointless and obnoxious fetish shitposting is never removed
Can we get a retro anime board already??

>>14472225
wait, where is that page from? i dun remember that

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>>14473446
It's Neo Devilman. Go read.

>>14472830
It's a den of autism and self enabling and the janitors there will often ban anyone who complains about 4chan.

>>14474417
Theyve banned me for triggering NEET pedos multiple times
The first time they ever banned me was for mentioning im from /m/
Fucking hilarious that the oldest board has swarms of people bitching about "crossboarders"
They dont even know their own history much less the history of anime
They dont know who Nagai is

>>14475162
Hell one time I posted Cutie Honey Flash in a "favorite Sailor Moon character" and no one got the joke or even recognized who Honey is in general
Fuckin sad. Itd be like stealth game fans not knowing who Solid Snake is

>>14457444
pls post more bird

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>>14475586

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Who says Devilman isn't /m/?

>>14475625
Anyone have this?

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>>14475681
Yes. It's really neat. But check out the Demon encyclopaedia, too.
http://exhentai.org/g/906890/90783a2fd1/
http://exhentai.org/g/906900/1d5aee6869/

>>14475616
>>14475614
>>14457444
>>14456662
>>14456616
>You'll never have a harpy lusting for your dick

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>>14477504
I'd rather that Sphinx or dog girl.

How much of Devilman Grimoire has been translated and where can I find it?

>>14479733
But Silene is voiced by Lady Haman!

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honorary nothing

>>14475162
>They dont know who Nagai is

I wish I had that luck.

>>14481250
this spits on the face of all Devilman fans.

>>14484718
How so?

>>14471129
>doesn't have fanservice or giant anime titties.
Nearly everybody gets naked in Devilman, though.

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>>14485675
Except it's not sexualized, you fucking moron. Way to miss the point. It's called body horror, you fucking ingrate.

>>14485831
Don't be a dick, I'm just saying that some readers might get into G or whatever if they hear there's nudity. Whether they find it sexy or weird is another story.

>>14484730
>Do we have devilman do something cool and heroic?
>Nope just have in bound, gagged, and whipped 3 times
No matter how good fapfuel it is that is just insulting

>>14486673
At least it was just the shitty toei version.

>>14485831
>not sexualized
>Go Nagai
Yo, I know a lot of people make too much of a big deal about the nudity in Devilman, but come on.

>>14489176

The original version you mean.

>>14490606

Yeah, some people are this delusional.

>>14449918
if its on /a/ it drops off to page 10

>>14468812
>How about Devilman vs Hades?
No, but it's available in Italian.

Ends on a fucking gigantic cliffhanger.

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>>14479733

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>>14490958
Rude.

>>14490606
Talking about the original Devilman here, not his other works when he couldn't get it up.

>>14490934
And no one can be bothered to translate it that to english?

>>14491991
Nice entitlement.

>>14492010
Oh this is entitlement? This is your millennial come back? This is your try-hard internet tough guy remedy to an obvious inequity in a cult favorite not being translated to one of the most popular international languages in the world? I mean every shone jump piece of drivel and romcom/harem manga gets at least three simultaneous fan translations, but something like Devilman which only puts out new material every couple years can't be bothered because of fanboy entitlement?

I was thinking... how about we stop complaining about and do something?

There is the Cyborg 009 vs Devilman manga that I want to read, there is already translated chapters here

http://cyborg009.livejournal.com/62469.html

I wish we could do something to finish it, looks like its almost ending, we would need raws and confirmation where the manga ends and such.

>>14492072
Pass the salt.

>>14492301
Oh shit, look out everyone this guy is a legitimate bad ass. Sheeeeeeeeet!

>>14492265
Thanks for this information, it seems the popularity of Cyborg 009 will ensure this eventually gets translated.

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>>14492072
The thing is that very few are actually interested or at least vocal about wanting more of his works to be translated. People just don't care and are put off by the art alone no matter how acclaimed it may be.

Then you have actual translators who are interested in translating his works. How many are there? There's like a handful. Besides, most TLs do it for e-penis, donations and the fame which Nagai works or old works at all do not give.

At this rate, you're just gonna have to pay people to do them but then all money grubbing faggots would be all over you. Then there's the appeal, Devilman and such doesn't appeal to everyone while generic harem shit, shonen, ecchi, and all that other crap do. The situation is dire. Very dire.

>>14493415
Uncle Go needs to switch up his style.

"Attack on Devilman"

"Devil Academy"

"Boku no Akira"

>>14447449
No really, but its by uncle Go so you can get away with it every now and again. As long as we dont get a general for it...
>200+ posts
...fuck

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>>14495639
If Godzilla counts, I suppose Devilman can too.

>>14493415

Acclaimed by who? 98.9% of his works are completely shit. Divilman is the exception, not the rule. Harenchi Galuen got popular at the time, but after that the only reason people remember him is because of Toei.

>>14495817
Which of his works are shit?

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>>14495817
Figure of speech. Don't take it literally. However, some people like to think untranslated works are amazing simply because we can't read them.

>>14498119
Most are either mediocre/hit and miss.

>>14498135
Incidentally, chapter 5 of the Jeeg manga is out. Rest of the anime never.

>>14498135
Which ones are hit or miss?

>>14498153
>expecting spics to answer

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>>14498153
Most of them. I don't have time to list all bazillion manga he's done. He's a one hit wonder author. And I don't mean that they're all awful, I just mean that they're not very good and often overrated just because it's Nagai.

>>14499248
Yes. Because anytime anybody has a negative opinion, that makes them a spic. You see, this is the cancer in DP threads. Just stop.

>>14499473
>My opinion = fact
>let's just ignore the decades of critical acclaim Nagai has garnered
>because of my (terrible) opinion of reading a tiny fraction of his works
S P I C

P.S. No one wants to hear about what you think, so stop posting it. Threads are for discussion of works, not discussion of your preferences.

>>14499617
Violence Jack is fucking great, fuck the haters. Shuten Doji deserve more love and Susanoo is pretty great.

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>>14499473
> I can't be bothered to offer a tangible opinion that might be rebuked.

>>14499370
>if you're a normiefag who doesn't get off to demon rape, you should probably leave /m/.

Are you seriously using /m/ as an example of fine, good taste?

>>14499617

Mazinger, Cutie Honey and Grendizer were hit anime, not manga.

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>>14499617
Yes, as in only every once in a while he puts out something good.

>>14499625
Jack is great but the arcs are also hit and miss.

>>14493084
Are you being sarcastic? Even the entirety of the original Cyborg 009 manga hasn't been translated.

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this is something I only discovered just last night but holy shit. Ken Ishikawa did a Fatal Fury manga

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and it's fucking nuts

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>>14500382
Yesssss.

>>14500382
>>14500409
Why is Dynamic Pro so based?

>>14500520
Because it appeals to spics.

>>14500521
I though spics were the people who hated Go Nagai's work?

>>14500524
You're a spic, I'm a spic, everyone in this thread is a spic. That's how spicposting works. And why we are all gathered here.

>>14500524
Don't respond, don't engage it. Don't make the board worse. Watch for it's catch phrase and stay clear.

>>14449745
What was this comic even like?

>>14447861
...you don't get to bring devils

>>14451581
Sometimes I worry that /m/'s always been this shitty, and we're only just noticing.

Thanks for your work, BTW.

>>14451790
Can we just get a board for older anime?

>>14451581
>This is the official canon according to Go Nagai
It isn't.
>He's reneged on Violence Jack being the follow up to Devilman in favor of Devilman Lady
No, he hasn't.
>stated that Devil Knight is the first instalment and Devilman Saga is the last.
Source.
>where you're talking out your ass
Ironing at its finest.

>>14500256
>Jack is great but the arcs are also hit and miss

Still waiting for a hit after the first arc.

>>14499625
>Susanoo is pretty great

Heh, no.

>>14500742
Nice try Carlos, you aren't fooling anyone.

Everything Dynamic Pro/Go Nagai that is not Mazinger/Getterman/Devilman-related is extremely hard to find on the internet, you'll be lucky to find raws in some Italian website, nobody gives a damn about Uncle Go.

Even that Cyborg 009/Devilman crossover didn't have any fansubs, Netflix saved it for some reason, I hope the get more Go Nagai stuff out.

>>14501687
>Everything Dynamic Pro/Go Nagai that is not Mazinger/Getterman/Devilman-related is extremely hard to find on the internet
No.

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>>14502376
Look mate, tell me: what do you gain by calling other spic? Realy, what do you gain? Do you think you are better than then? If you are, use your brain to type in how X is good, what are the good/bad points and not being like the Xpearse who couldnt even speak why he didnt like Neo Devilman Ishikawa's chapter.

I am not even a spic, buy holy shit, I am certain that they give 0 fucks about MUH REPRESENTATION unlike american cockgobbled pampered autistic babies like you.

If you are just shitposting, whats next? what will be your endgame? Sperging spic this spic that in the next thread? Stop being an imbecile and discuss why do you think this or that is good or bad, calling others name will get you anywhere, you just look like a failure who cant even explain why some japanese comic from the 70's is bad.

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>>14500887
Actually read any wiki or english site that discusses the works.

Go Nagai said Devil Knight is the first story in the series of time loops even leading into the events of the original Devilman manga. Shin Devilman follows as the next loop after the original Devilman manga where the nature of God's time loop placed on Earth is explained. The next loop (or some loops later) Devilman Lady takes place where Devilman has given up hope residing within Hell and Ryo/Satan has been split into Ran Asuka and Jun Fudo. He later says that Devilman Saga is the last chapter of the Devilman series meaning it is the final time loop.

Violence Jack, though originally implied as a sequel to Devilman was later stated by Go Nagai as not being so and was more akin to a post apocalyptic world for all of his fictional works to reside in. He also clarified that neither Violence Jack nor Demon Lord Dante have any place in the Devilman time loop scenario.

>>14502667
You didn't answer any questions. Where are the proofs?

>>14503205
Look up any wiki or site that talks about the material. The Devilman Wikia for one.

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>>14503355
I don't want wikis. I want proofs.

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>>14502457
>couldnt even speak why he didnt like Neo Devilman Ishikawa's chapter.
Read that thread again.

>>14501708
What about that early 70's Nagai manga where a woman on a plane crash lands in the amazon and gets raped by everything in sight?

>>14503683
Fuck off, xpearse.

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What is considered Nagai's best looking work? I'm reading through Devilman Lady right now and I'm really impressed by it. His designs are often simple but he can use them amazingly.

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>>14507055
His magnum opus Devilman if you ignore this chapter of course. Lady is different, but no where near as good as the original.

>>14456660
>>14456664
Hell yes, Iwaaki! The man.

Is Devilman just cool devil guys punching/biting each other? Sounds pretty fun.

>>14508343
Nagai is surprisingly into his mythology. Lots of fun punching but there's a lot more going on than you might expect considering the sort of goofy title and designs.

>>14507055

The least bad-looking one, you mean. Devilman has some neat panelling, I guess. Overall, the 80s was when he really went downhill.

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>>14510131
panelling is certainly a strong-point of his but I don't think there's any part of his work I'd actually consider 'bad.'

>>14503428
Wiki's list their sources. Bang. Proofs.

Deal with it. If you're too lazy to do the research don't expect others, who aren't, to spoon feed you.

>>14510350
>I'm going to make wild claims
>but I'll never back them up
Looking pretty pathetic m8

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So how much of Grimoire has been translated?

>>14510352
Every information source on the internet corroborates what he is saying. I can't blame him since you only seem intent on moving the goal post in this situation.

>>14510352
If you actually ever read Demon Knight, Devilman, Devilman Lady & Devilman Saga you'd know in which order they take place.

The only thing that requires proof is Violence Jack which Go Nagai himself renegged as canon.

http://devilman.wikia.com/wiki/Violence_Jack

Evidently Go Nagai made the claim at a convention in saying that Violence Jack was canon with nothing but itself.

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>>14510374
You still haven't posted a shred of proof.
>since you only seem intent on moving the goal post in this situation.
I have not moved any goalpost. I have asked for actual proof since the beginning and have not changed my stance.

Post proofs, dipshit. This isn't rocket science.

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>>14510510
Then don't believe it, you obviously haven't read any of the material to know the canon order presented in them in the first place so convincing you seems really superfluous. I fail to see why convincing you when no one else has any issue with this presented canon (probably because they've at least read the source material) is of any importance. Go ahead, call it bullshit, call it made up, that still doesn't change anything or excuse your ignorance.

The events in Devil Knight show that it is a direct prequel to Devilman. The events in Devilman Lady show that it is a direct sequel to Devilman. The events in Devilman Saga show that it is a direct sequel to Devilman Lady. You want proofs? Read the fucking manga.

Here is an official flow chart published by Dynamic Pro in the late 90s/early 00s. No Violence Jack. Nagai doesn't consider it part of the Devilman cluster.

Short of having Go Nagai himself make a youtube video explaining this in english, I don't think you're willing to take any evidence as proof and like so many trolls on /m/ are just shitposting because you're pissed off there is one less spot on the catalog for complaining about the latest iterations of Gundam, Macross or Toku.

>>14510546
You could have posted this in the first place instead of sperging out.

Was that hard? All he asked was some evidence of your claims.

It's not up to him to prove the claims. It's the one making them.

>>14449838
Tanjou Hen is Sirene: The Birth

Missing
>Sirene-chan
>Gekiman
>The Violence jack novels
>Roman Bible comic
>Cyborg 009 vs. prequel comic
>Cyborg 009 vs. manga (Different plot entirely)

Theres a few individual short comics in a few supplement books as well like the Psychic world and the anime series companion.

>>14449949
the dinosaur part wasnt even published when the ova came out

>>14511295
And now it's been proven. Deal with it.

>>14453235
ok well u added about half of what i just suggested already. There is a CB Chara manga as well.

>>14456676
its not, he's a fag

>>14456901
violence jack is a sequel to devilman tho? Devilman lady was another route

>>14457422
>implying Dredd wouldnt just deck the sperg and send him to the cubes

6 months citizen

>>14475681
i do, go get it if you like the series its a 10/10 book

>>14489176
fuck u nigga

>>14480721
4 chapters including 11 page prequel

>>14491991
Lets be honest here nigga, there are hundreds of manga series always coming out and the devilman fandom is niche as fuck, there was barely even any info on the series till i made the wiki a few years back.

>>14498119
its more 2/10 of his works are simply mediocre, u get occasional shit like Jushin Liger (which did actually have a great ending and designs) but its not that much.

>>14510374
You that claim was bullshit, i know cus im the guy who wrote the article and based that on what some nigga on 4chan said, which reminds me i need to edit that as i intend on making some VJ pages soon

>>14511909
This isn't a visual novel, fag.

>>14511960
>>14511974
You need to go the fuck back to your shitty wiki.
>there was barely even any info on the series till i made the wiki a few years back.
That's bullshit. There was plenty of English info about Devilman even before it was translated way back in 2008.

>>14511983
golly gosh

>>14511877
The Violence Jack Novels are there. Also, are they canon additions to the manga or just light novel adaptations?

>>14511992
Fuckin make me faggot.
The demon bible didnt get scanned till last year, i brought a shit ton of source books and made pages on all the demons and obscure shit well before. Not my fault ya a faggot.

>>14512113
cant say mate i havent read them, i dont even know how many there are.

If your including games theres at least 4 pachinko games i know of

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Still very much a work in progress but here's the latest iteration.

>>14508126
Hey I'm gonna play stupid for a moment and ask sauce. I don't remember that particular scene from the orig devilman book.

>>14508343
It gets pretty depressing and well worth a read.

>>14512208
It's from the short side story "One Summer Day" which was included with the deluxe and revised editions of the Devilman Manga.

>>14512213
Remember Children, the moral of the Devilman story is: Everything is awful forever.

>>14512217
Many thanks, Comrade! Will definitely check it out

>>14449703
How would Devilman fare in the Guyver Universe?

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>>14512151
I don't get why you're so obsessed with creating a chart. I don't think anybody really cares about continuity when it comes to Devilman.

>>14512217
It's really dumb and out of touch with the original manga. It's like those extra chapters shoved into the original Getter Robo manga. They're just out of place. Especially the art.

>>14512836
>I don't get why you're so obsessed with creating a chart. I don't think anybody really cares about continuity when it comes to Devilman.
I really appreciate anons who are trying to help newcomers in any way they can. That chart seems like a great idea to me.

Keep at it man.

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>>14512843
That's not the point. There shouldn't be a go-to guide for something like Devilman. You read the original, then whatever the fuck else at your own pace or not at all.

>>14512843
Are you brain dead? That chart doesn't help newcomers whatsoever. It's a masturbatory exercise for a literal who that can't actually contribute anything.

>>14512869
>You read the original, then whatever the fuck else at your own pace or not at all.
Thats not how it works.

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>>14512932
But everything else is side material. Heck, even Lady is a loose sequel and can be read on its own.

>>14512869
You keep saying that every single fucking Devilman thread. Why does it bother you so much that people want to know how the different stories connect? Even if it's a "pseudo sequel" or a reimagining or whatever, they simply want to know if the manga they've been reading continues in some way, shape or form.

Granted, the chart isn't too helpful at present, but we're slowly getting there

>>14512994

Because the original is the only thing worth a damn.

>>14512876
Damn dude, you autistic.

The point of the chart is more to show just what all of the media is out there, not necessarily a reading order or clear cut canon, those are merely concepts which help organize the flow chart.

If you hate charts like this so much then take it up with Dynamic Pro fro creating the original.

>>14513198
>if you insult my badly made chart, with dubious assertions of canon that serves literally no purpose for anyone, then you're autistic
Damn d00d

>>14513240
That's some wicked strawmanning you're pulling there. I'd gladly accept any evidence to the contrary of what has been presented. Perhaps you'd like to substantiate some of those hyperbolas claims?

>>14513375
just stop replying senpai, you doing good. im gonna look at what i own and drop any titles tommora

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I just finished Devilman Lady 15 minutes ago and I have to say I'm very impressed. Nagai managed to make the story at the same time cyclical and surprising with familiar elements and new things being introduced from start to finish. It's cool that Nagai was able to make something so clever and entertaining where there was easy potential for a lame and half-assed cash-in. Of course it wasn't as sharp as the original Devilman due to the length but it had several very high points while being generally strong all the way through.

As far as successors for the original Devilman go I don't think anybody could have hoped for better. Even after reading stuff that was inspired by Devilman and kind of acted as modern updates like Parasyte Devilman Lady still impressed the hell out of me. Go Nagai is really something else.

>>14519287
Alot of the stuff he's put out since the late 90s though really just seems more like a creative exercise than the stuff he was aiming for with Devilman, Violence Jack & Devilman Lady. Not that they're bad, mind you, but things like Devil Knight, Devilman Saga, Shin Violence Jack, etc seem more experimental than definitive.

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made this Devilman drawing in the past two hours, figure i might as well post it here.

bit off way more than i can chew at the moment, don't know if i'll work on it further than this.

deliberately tried to fit some Go Nagai demon designs from the original manga in the background, but had to fill out with some of my own.

>>14519746
noice

Devilman / Mazinkaizer SKL crossover when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSqgo6HFUw

>>14519746
That's a very beast-like face you've given him. Is he meant to be grinning? He looks spooky.

>>14519746
Besides the head wings, that doesn't look like Devilman. Looks more like Zetman.

>>14519889

thanks!

>>14519906

i suppose he's pretty satisfied/happy about killing all those demons. spooky is good.

>>14519907

eh, if i ever find the motivation to color/render it, i'll try to add some fur, the greenish skin and maybe the wings (if i can fit them in without obscuring the background too much). hopefully that'll make him look more like Devilman.

>>14519959
Your design simply does not look like Devilman. I'd post an image comparing, but someone already spammed the thread to death with a bunch of shitty images.