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Fucking happening edition

Where were you when the A-12 existed?
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>>14436118
With this asian guy
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What's MuvLuv?
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>>14436415
Waifus and Robots, who happen to also be waifus.
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>>14436424
And AYY LMAOS of 10^37 power in numbers or some bullshit like that
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>>14436429
>>14436429
"AYY LMAOS"...? What
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>>14436433
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>>14436429
10^37 overlords, iirc.
Also >Moh 15 and similar "big numbers mean BIG!" retardation. Think your sci-fi numbers through, kids.
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>>14436433
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FINALLY, we FINALLY have a plan explaining WWII in ML.

Everything takes so much sense now.
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>>14437445
>explaining ww2
Is it alternative history in ML as well? I thought it started to differ after
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>>14437479
The point of divergence is back in the XIX century, there is a reason for the whole Emperor-Shogun-Prime Minister thing.
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>>14437497
So, they defeated the black ships, or something?
And then didn't fight ussr?
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>>14437499
>So, they defeated the black ships, or something?

Its never clearly stated. The only thing that is clear, is that they behaved "well enough" before and during ww2 as to get a "normal" and not a unconditional surrender in '44.
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>>14437537
44? Well, I guess, if they left the mainland and captured islands before ussr and usa forced them to, they'd get it.
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>>14437479
Berlin got nuked as well instead of Japan.
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>>14437568
What about northern island chain? Did japan get to keep them as well?
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>>14437570
I think it's unknown, I don't recall any map or anything showing the borders of Northern Japan.
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>>14436118
>Where were you when the A-12 existed?

I died waiting for it. Search the shores of France for my bones.
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>>14436433
>>14436460

Proper plural is "ayys lmao", anon
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>>14437710
like Attorneys General?
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>>14437753
Yes, or passers by
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after more than 100 roll, i found 2 ssr in a row
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>>14438224
Left
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>>14438224
PIlots will be rarer.
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>>14438240
Of course /m/an, Yui is one of my favorite.
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Appearance when?
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So what that supposed to mean? some ranking thing? How many re-tweets this game gets or will this be rewards for another 150 rolls?
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>>14442251
I think its the pre-release gacha. that you'll use the current coins for.
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When do we get a Su-24 and Su-25 TSF/TSA?

>>14438224

The pilot suit looks pretty good with the cleavage exposed like that.
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>>14442310
>su-24/25
PAK FA when. I want to see how amazingy physics defying it'll be.
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>>14442551
The BETA don't stand a chance
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>>14442553
ATD-X is going to be a Shiranui derivate?
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>>14442534
>>14442551
>>14442553
>>14442555

>Draft up long-speculated-about designs
>Put them in doujin artbook not released under age's name but all done by age members/artists
>Display them during age events anyways, will probably turn official sometime down the road

Taking us for a ruse cruise as usual.

>>14442587
No reason not to be.
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Rolling, rolling
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>>14443105
That cryska looks nice.
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>>14444006
She's the best girl for a reason
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>>14444032
Okay, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

She's not even the best in TE. Pic related, the best TSFu
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>>14444047
Gray and not light green Su-27.
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>Kimi ga Nozomu Eien confirmed
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Are you going to reach 150 rolls?
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そのスタッフは俺を馬鹿なな筋肉男ぐらいにしか思っていません、相手にしたく無くて怒鳴っていたら、変なキャラ作って潰して捨ててたんですよ、なんかバカっぽいとは思っていたんですけどやたらへそ曲げてたイメージしかありませんでした、化け物でもセンスって必要なんですよ
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How much involvement does Sekai Project actually have with MuvLuv's Western release?

They keep claiming association but as far as I can tell everything is being actually done by Degica and age, while SP have done nothing.

But apparently Sekai Project are the ones Kick-starting KGNE?

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-04/sekai-project-plans-to-launch-kickstarters-for-nekopara-anime-kimi-ga-nozomu-eien-game-remake/.103944

What's going on here exactly?
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>>14447563
>VN
>video game
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>>14447575
It's a game the same way 4′33″ is music.
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>>14447563
The guys at Fuwanovel said that "Degica announces they've picked up the Kimi ga Nozomu Eien translation for official release!" and the ML profile retweeted that post.
So i guess ANN just got the info wrong. I dont think AGE will want to separate ways with Degica, after the success of the KS and the already established teams.
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>>14447563
I thought the only connection was sayori but shrug
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>>14447488
Will be at 209 by the end of the event, if you have rolls on the 18th.

I believe max is 211 as I missed one day.
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>>14447599
These idiots always do it. Sekai Project and Degica are associating with each other, Sekai projects has naught to do with Muv-Luv or Kimi ga Nozomu Eien.
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>>14447563
>>14447599
>>14447963
Yup, all clear now.
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>>14447994
it was clear from the beginning, who the fuck pays these fucktards for false news coverage at ANN?
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>>14436118
>Two different A-12 Designs, both look kickass,

A worthy successor to the Intruder
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left or right?
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>>14448003
>what are version sketches
There are probably dozens of rejected designs
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>>14448005
See >>14438242
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>>14448005
Left
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>We get the Avenger before a Draken

Fucking Cookie.
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What were the requirements for getting Meiya's pre-register and?
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>>14448018
>Gripen still hasn't gotten any screentime beyond a two-second QUALITY cameo
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>>14448076
It's such a pretty eurocanard, it's really a shame we don't see more of it.
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>>14448076
>mfw
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>>14448028
Roll prereg 150 times. Sumika's req seems to be to luck out and roll her in pre-release gacha. At least as far as I understood
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>>14447994
So how are they connected to Sekai Project?
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>>14448638
They just did some advertising for each other.
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>>14448638
They aren't; Sekai just bends over like a bitch for Muv-Luv. Their only connection is a freelance translator.

It's the one VN that they really wanted to port and couldn't port.

... Well now it's not the only VN that they really wanted to port, but couldn't.
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>>14448640
>>14448656
Is there also a connection via Sayori? Trying to read Twitter updates is confusing. Was the Sayori panel hosted by Sekai Project, and why were they discussing KGNE at the Sayori panel?
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>>14448716
Has Sayori even been involved with âge since Chronicles 04, apart from that image of Sigelinde earlier this year?
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>>14448738
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>>14448003
>all the newly announced TSFs appear on the very last TDA battle
>They get destroyed anyways as they only make a small cameo
T-thanks
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>>14448918
That's six years old.
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Which is better yui or shiranui second? I got two accounts with one of those. I only need one. Who wants it?
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>>14447994
So is Degica doing another Kickstarter for this or just do it without?
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>>14448018
Wake me up when we finally get the Albatros.
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>>14449214
Pilots are probably more important, considering this is a r18
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>>14449490
Would they risk being known as another SP company?
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>>14442555
<3
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>>14449490
>>14449709
I think its going to be another KS.
But iirc the were talking about a remake, so i think they are doing the crowfounding to make japs pay for it.
I just hope this one will be the last one, im getting burn out.
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>>14451343
for kiminozo i think i'm going just for the digital download pledge this time.
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>>14451343
Things aren't any less clear. Evan has been working on Latest Edition. Cookie was talking about a remake with Sayori's art.
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>>14443105
What's the icon on that Slutmika card?
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>>14451676
No idea. Maybe its upgraded somehow
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>>14451688
An online moonrunes dictionary says it means something like "CP exclusive use", does that mean she can't actually be deployed as a pilot?
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>>14451700
Well, it would make sense. She isn't an actual pilot. CP would stand for Command post then I assume
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>>14451705
Yeah, most likely.
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>>14451721
I swear to god, if this game has permadeath
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>>14451721
So, team of five, commander and friend slot?
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>>14451727
Don't worry, h-scenes are usualy saved in a gallery.
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>>14451732
no please, Kouki, don';t do this to us ;_;
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I wonder if mechs will have ammo/fuel
Or if they'll lose a part/get a debuff when crit.
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>>14451729
Leader, team of five and CP.
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>>14451748
No friend slot?
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>>14451740
>no one can stop him anymore
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>>14451749
It's not like I know or anything, I'm just guessing.
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>>14451748
>weapon icons
Is it customization?
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>>14451748
2 Meiyas?
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>>14451759
maybe he rolled 300 times
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>>14451762
>>14451759
one for prereg, one for rolling 150
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Those cards are going to be upgradable for getting more lewd art like in other dmm game?
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>>14451755
I think it's whatever weapon their mech is equipped with.
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>>14451774
It seems so.
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お待たせしました! 事前登録ガチャでGETしたいカードはどれですか? いちばん投票のあったカードを7/19からの第二弾ガチャに入れちゃいます!
Choices are >14443105
>poll about who do you want to see in the second half of prereg gacha
>First comment is about Beatrice
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>>14452142
>After 6k votes its
43%SSR クリスカ・ビャーチェノワ
36%SSR 鑑 純夏
12%SSR F-22A ラプター
09%SSR Su-47E ビェールクト

Isn't it sad, Berkut?
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>>14452142
>>14452149
You should post the link

https://twitter.com/muvluvsf_staff/status/748784540953432064
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>>14452149
Sumika is getting destroyed by Cryska.
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>>14448005
>>14448012
>>14438242
HALP!
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>>14452219
nothing new, she even lost against her sister.
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>>14452398
right
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>>14452407
...I picked left.
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>>14452414
>...
because you have no rights
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>>14452398
>>14452414
Should have picked right. New and fresh, not used.
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>>14442551
>>14442587
once the pak-fa is mass produced !
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>>14452486
Never ever
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>>14448003
>melee?
>oh, you mean when I shoot with my other gun
I love America in Muff-Luff. No swords. Just guns and more guns.
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>>14452738
They do have pointy fingers.
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130 rolls and still no Yui. Well, at least I got SSR Shiranui
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When is the second slot opening, this Friday?
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>had a Chizuru for a week or so
>got a Kei
>instantly swapped
Easiest choice ever to be honest.
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>>14452142
>First comment is about Beatrice
Why do Japs have such shit taste?
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>>14452766
i got both, but you still have a lot of time.
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>>14452863
You sound pretty salty.
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>>14452766

Started rolling last week and got Yui today. You'll get yours soon, anon.
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>>14453095
BEA-HIME IS LOVE!

BEA-HIME IS LIFE!
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>>14453617
Will she ever relearn the taste of love?
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>>14453729
nah she's dead
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>>14438224
I got the SR Fubuki. Still holding out hope for Yui.
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>>14442587
Looks like a Shiranui and a YF-23...so basically the mass-produced version of the Shiranui Second Phase 2?
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>>14454199
>YF-23
Never ever
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>>14448005
Right
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>>14454201
Shut your whore mouth. That comment made me almost as mad as when the Geshiken and Rafale revoltechs got cancelled.
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>>14454216
BRING BACK BALLJOINTS
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>>14454199

Phase 2 was already mass-produced, they're the grey-colored Phase 2s.

ATD-X is (probably) the mass-production-developed version of the Phase 3. Yuuya ran off with Unit 1, but Yui got to keep Unit 2, which ties in to the YF-23-esqueness of the ATD-X.
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>>14454240
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So will SF have real H-scenes or just lewd pics
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>>14455552
We don't know yet.
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Opinions on Baldr Sky getting announced for localization? It's frequently mentioned in the same breath as MLA for mecha VNs except the pacing is supposed to be much better.
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>137 rolls
>not a single SSR
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>tfw finally got another SR to get rid of shituru
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>>14456436
Going to be great if someone releases an h-scene patch, otherwise it will stay as censored trash.
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In about a week a lot of newfags will embark upon Yoshimune Kouki's wildride, many of which have no idea what they are about to get into.
Maybe they will like it, maybe they will hate it, and maybe many will ask about where the rest of the story is.
These newfags whether we like them or not will hopefully bring more interest to the series as we are a week away from the one of the most critical parts of the post-kickstarter period.

I wish all of you newfags godspeed, I want to tell you that you cannot get off Mr.Kouki's wildride.
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>>14457311
>implying it won't blow over after 3 weeks
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>>14457311
I honestly can't wait to see how newfags react to CHOMP when MLA comes out.
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>>14454336
I meant to say Phase 3 there, as I was typing it it didn't seem right and the model box was sitting right across the room from me so dunno how I screwed that up.
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>>14456436
>>14457243
Still waiting for Muramasa
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>>14457446
This 2bh Pham.
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>>14457436
it would be delicious.

they use original version or all-ages version?
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>>14457492
I'm pretty sure all the gore will be there, while the ecchi stuff will be added via a restoration patch that will be free for backers.
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>>14457515
This really is the best possible way they could have handled it.
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>>14457311
I sure am looking forwards all that Frodoposting, not.
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>>14457515
Someone will probably upload the patch elsewhere for everyone I'm guessing
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HELP!
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>>14458392
Yui.
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>>14458396
how can i get both?
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>>14458415
You can't.
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>>14457515
Hopefully it will just be free, in general. A patch shouldn't cost money, especially if you've already bought the game. It should be free for the people who bought it on Steam too.
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>>14458449
For now this is what they confirmed.
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So, when's release?
Pre-reg gacha ends on 18th and there should be a pre-release, I think, gacha with Sumika. And another gacha with Cryska from twitter poll.
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>>14458476
That's still slightly vague, as it could include pre-purchases on Steam as well.
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>>14458482
first gatcha end on 18th second gatcha with take sr start after that.
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>>14454153
Pretty rude if I say so myself.
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>>14458482
this fall
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>>14458392
>3 out of my 4 accounts have SSR
what exactly is the pull rate? I;ve been rolling for about 1 week now.
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>>14438224
I just had to make the same decision. I kept the shiranui because I'm not a fan of "damaged" versions of characters, but I feel like it was probably a mistake.
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>>14448003
Pity that the Skyhawk got developed before the Phantom. I would've liked to see a TSA version of the Scooter
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>>14459266
Pilots are rarer.
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>>14459555
is this confirmed anywhere? I haven't been tracking it, but I haven't gotten the impression that I've been rolling mechas more often than characters.
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>>14459664
If they stick to canon then, yes, pilots will probably be rarer and harder to get. Especially for exclusive gachas like this one. We might get more Shiranui, but that Yui card will likely never reappear.
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>>14459676
well just because there are fewer named pilots than tsfs doesn't necessarily mean there will be fewer pilot cards. the main reason that I decided not to pick yui is because it was a "battle damage" version or something. if this ends up being like other games there will probably be swimsuit versions and christmas versions and maid versions of every character.
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>>14459958
Yes but pilot skill will most likely be more important ingame than the mechs. that Yui is probably a really good pilot card, and you chose the machine instead.
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>>14459555
I'm sure they'll have many versions of the same pilot. Honestly I'll stick with the shiranui for the beginning considering we'll be getting meiyas. long term it won't be good but that'll be after a few gachas and events.

>>14459958
you can probably which between images like all the good dmm games have
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is there a wiki or something that is consolidating all the card art for that new muv luv game
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>>14460470
You are free to make one.
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>>14460486
i'm not playing the game tho, don't really play these kinda games but I love the art

there was one for the muv luv mobage
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>>14460489
If you mean the r18 mobage, its not released either
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happy birthday, second best girl imo
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>Page 9
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>>14460811
>>14460818
S00mika still the best girl, no matter what.
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>>14461455
my waifu is best girl, but Sumika is best main heroine
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>>14461544
Is your waifu Haruko?
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>>14461557
yes why
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>>14461455
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>sumikaspammer is on /m/
pls go and stay go. you already posted your obligatory happy birthday image
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>>14461611
I, for one, think second best girl should get her day.
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>Finally, 140 rolls later
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>>14461566
She's also mine to be honest.
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>>14461611
Fuck off faggot.
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>>14461611
Its not him, the filenames don't match.
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so are we getting the new card pool tomorrow? if rolling ends on the 18th that means we'll only get half as many chances on this one. I really want the 00r too.
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>>14462594
I've no idea how long second slot gacha will be, but it starts after the current one.

And I'm not sure if its going to be pre-release, or just second part of pre-reg
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>>14448716
>and why were they discussing KGNE at the Sayori panel?
Attempting to piece events together from random tweets and event writeups, it started off as a Sayori panel (they'd kicked out the Sekai Project people by that point) where they talked about Nekopara for a while, then Degica gatecrashed the panel and turned it into a Muv-Luv panel where Kouki talked about Sayori's history with Muv-Luv, joked about a KGNE remake with Sayori art, Nekopara Alternative, and how to hold an oppai mousepad properly.

Perhaps someone from Alternative Projects who was actually at AX can elaborate more.
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Sumika is cute!
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>>14436118
my fucking dick
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>>14462672
明日から、7/19から始まる事前登録ガチャ第二弾に入れるカードの投票を始めます!
Seems to be 2nd prereg
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>>14465473
Vote for the card to be added to the 2nd phase(7/19 onwards) of prereg gacha
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Just recieved a mail update, nothing new just daki designs and sumika's birthday
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSiL2Q9Kp3I
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So, I forgot.
What's going on with TDA.
Are the people who were translating it doing it officially now?
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>>14465637
everything should have been the first half

Thought I do understand why they need to spoil the unlimited route.
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>>14465717
nope

your gonna get SM instead.
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>>14465637
>8495 backers
>1.2 million dollars
shit man
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>>14465637
ALTERNATIVE FUCKING WHEN
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>>14465742
BUT MUH PUNISHED TAKERU
A LEGEND DENIED HIS UNIVERSE
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>>14465742

I'm more excited for Altered Fable
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>>14465755
I believe they said before the end of the year,

Ooh, it would be neat if Alt comes out on the day that Unlimited and it start, which I think is...early November?
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>>14466033
>Get Raped By Baters: The Game translated

Oh the despair.
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>>14465965
>tfw TDA
>aka "Everyone is a madman" won't be translated
Fugg
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>>14466047
I'm pretty sure they're only going to translate the VN portion of it, rather than the whole Altered Fable.
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How much of a beast is TDA Takeru? He can apparently rek baters by the hundreds even in a Shiranui and he apparently one-mans a hive in TDA.
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>>14466273
Not in a Shiranui Anon, in a Gekishit. TDA Takeru whups ass in a Gekishit and is a fucking monster in a Takemi.
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>>14466273
TDA Takeru wouldn't need to use lethal force to settle down the civil war in SM.
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>>14466288
I must have been confusing that with Operation 21. In all honesty I have not seen much of TDA myself.

>>14466291
...Nor have I seen Schwarzmarken. I take it that you'd have to be a massive badass to do so, though.
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Does anyone have that video of TDA Takeru wrecking frenchies to METEOR?
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>I'll reach 150 rolls today
>Rolled Yui yesterday
Feels good
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>>14465748
Yeah that surprised me too, I thought the number of backers was way higher than that. Sasuga mecha fans, 160 bucks as the average pledge.
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>>14466038
Christmas would be a nice date as well considering Unlimited pretty much ends in the 25th.
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>>14466373
I did it for the daki.
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>>14466382
I was planning on getting only the digital copies but the sumika figma convinced me to spend more.
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>>14466386
>Sumika
Nah, just kidding. I hope it's a lovely figure.

Now, if they released a Kei figure, I'd be all over that. But they released a Kei daki so I'll be (cumming) all over that instead.
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>>14465755
ORUTA MADAAAAAA?!?!
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>>14466469
NANISO.RE?
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>>14436415
>What's MuvLuv?

A harem mecha show.
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>>14436424
>>14466503
> all this answer
oh come on, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nN95L40i6I
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>>14466503
>harem
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>>14465742
Fuck SM.

Worst story
Worst girls
Worst Muv-Luv
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>>14466594
>Worst story
True, they went full retard.
>Worst girls
The only bad girl in SM is Katia. If you've only watched the anime then I have some bad news for you.
>Worst Muv-Luv
Fairly true as well, although this ties in with the story. SM takes a big smelly shit all over true love and making your sacrifices count.
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Other than mubwub what does Cookie do? where's the monies come from?
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>>14466613
slinging crack on the streets of LA
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>>14466599
>The only bad girl in SM is Katia.
She was shit, but nearly every other girl was worst. Gretel was the only one who was alright.
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>>14466619
>Gretel
Like I said about the anime. You'll probably be shocked to know Gretel is an incompetent unreliable sack of shit who threatens death at everything that goes slightly awry.
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Irisdina is a beautiful woman.
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明日からのカード追加に伴い、下記日時で臨時メンテナンスを行います。
[実施日時]
7/9(土)0:00-0:45

>new card addition
So, in 45min, we get second slot gacha?
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What's going on with the gacha?
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>>14466696
>second slot opens when I only have an SR TSF
shit
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>>14466697
Server is down for 40 min, because they are adding cards, I think.
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>>14466273

his literally a monster.

When he comes in people would be asking who is that God and shit.

Kurogane is a beast no doubt
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>>14466599
>Iris
>A boring saber clone failure who barely gets any screentime. Seriously, she barely gets any development. What you learn about her in the first three episodes is it as far as her character is concerned. We don't even really learn about her beliefs.

>Beatrix
>A boring villain designed to to be hated. Seriously, she doesn't do anything except act like a huge cunt and sadist to everybody. Again, we don't really learn why she's doing what she does, just that she enjoys it so I'm going to go with personal gratification.
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>>14466723
Who are you quoting? Also, see the bit about the anime.
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>>14466696
These cards, as I understand
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>>14466728
>G-guys, the anime is a bad adaption. My waifu isn't shit. C'mon, believe me!
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>>14466742
Do you post regularly on /v/? There's no need for ad hominem greentext.

In your own post you said Irisdina and Beatrix have little to no characterization or explanation for what they are doing. It's clear you didn't stop to think before making a mocking post that maybe, things are a bit different in the LN and VN.
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>>14466745
Who cares about Schwarz in general? It's just a side story.
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>>14466754
Then why bother to make a post that (incorrectly) outlines two characters if you don't care? It just seems like a waste of time and a need to argue.
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>>14466745
No, I'm just tired of the anime is a bad adaption meme.

The anime is official, with input from Ixtl, age, and the author. I don't think the anime screwed things up as bad as most people say. Sure, some small things had to go tweaked to make it work, but it what age/Ixtl wanted us to see.
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>>14466754
This.

The trilogy, TDA, and TE are the only things worth discussing.
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So, Cryska won the poll and will be added after 18th to second gacha?
【お知らせ】
皆さま投票ありがとうございました!7/19から始まるガチャ第二弾にSSRクリスカ・ビャーチェノワが入ります!お楽しみに!٩
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>>14466774
Well, there is a reason why SM isn't included in the gatcha.
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>>14466764
The anime is non-canon trash.
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>>14466777
Or is it pre-release.
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>>14466764
> I don't think the anime screwed things up as bad as most people say
>Sure, some small things had to go tweaked to make it work, but it what age/Ixtl wanted us to see.

There is a difference between age/Ixtl wanting the changes and age/Ixtl accepting the changes. You can see the differences yourself between the first episodes and the already translated 1st volume of the LN and the first VN. And the sometimes contradictory characterizations, the anime original scenes and the last second or throwaway references don't help it at all.
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>>14466764
>No, I'm just tired of the anime is a bad adaption meme.
Everything you're tired of seeing is not a meme. The anime is a bad adaptation because it doesn't represent anything correctly.
>The anime is official,
No one is disputing this.
>with input from Ixtl, age, and the author.
"Input" means just about nothing. The anime was under the reign of Watanabe, the director.
>I don't think the anime screwed things up as bad as most people say.
There is a list of things that are wrong with it, but let's start off with how the director didn't know the Stasi actually existed and thought SM made them up.
>Sure, some small things had to go tweaked to make it work
Just about everything that would make the story make sense was cut out. For example, the director claimed that Irisdina was the heroine they were going to focus on, yet she was as even you stated shoved in the back after she got her 5 minutes of recognition.
>but it what age/Ixtl wanted us to see.
It's what Watanabe wanted us to see. He took the material he was given by age and set out to direct it, which is clearly hard to do with only 12 episodes. As you could see, it focuses on fighting and the power of friendship. Not exposition, backstory and finding out why people are doing what they're doing other than "haha we're evil guys".
>>14466790
The anime is canon. It is adapting the LN, which is Katias route. The problem is that the anime is really poor. There's no other way to say it.
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>>14466833
>The anime is canon.
No, it isn't.
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>>14466841
I don't like the anime either, anon, that doesn't mean I need to tell untruths. Denying the truth is not what this discussion needs.
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>>14466761
I'm not the one who made that post tho, I'm just butting in
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>>14466833
You should read this guys stuff:

https://type94.wordpress.com/

He offers many arguments for why the anime is a good adaption.
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>>14466867
We're throwing Type94 links around now?

https://type94.wordpress.com/2016/03/24/anime-anime-tetsuya-watanabe/

You should read this, it offers many reasons why the the anime is not a good adaptation. If you're still not convinced, go read spoilers for the LN or read the translated parts of the LN.
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>>14466867
Type94s opinion of what a good adaptation is, boils down to it tells roughly the same story and is halfway entertaining to watch.
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I must've misunderstood the tweets. Its still slot 1 gacha.
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>>14466895
Yeah, looks like they're just adding some extra cards.
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>>14466867
Didn't KN guy say it was a shit adaption.
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>>14466899
Well he has more than just knowing nip going for him so I'm not surprised.
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>>14442534
>>14442551
>>14442553
>>14442555
does any one high res versions? I am putting them all together.

>>14442921
What art book, can you link them?
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>>14466902
He got blasted over on /a/ for writing a review agreeing with T-94, stating that SM isn't a character driven tragedy, and that it's atmosphere and plot are more important. Because of this, he decided to actually play the VN (he was planning on holding off on it until Martyrs came out or something) and was proven wrong. He was pretty butthurt about it, so he removed the review from his blog, and basically said SM's anime misses the mark on twitter.
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>>14466931
Already at 150 rolls. I wonder if I roll another SSR pilot.
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Did they just add more SSRs?

Do I have to replace Yui if I want the new SSRs?
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>>14466932
>stating that SM isn't a character driven tragedy, and that it's atmosphere and plot are more important.
Well, he wasn't wrong but he wasn't right per say. The plot and atmosphere are very heavily correlated from a few of the characters, but you can say that means everything derives from the characters.
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>>14466846
Doesn't matter if you like it or not, the anime isn't canon.
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>>14466941
I don't know, but probably yes. After 18th, we'll get Cryska, hopefully for the 2nd slot
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>>14466942
The central conflict in the story is Irisdina's and Beatrix's feud one of the reasons why the ending was such a letdown because we never got to see them resolve said conflict.
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>>14466948
>Doesn't matter if you like it or not
Funny you should mention that. It doesn't matter whether you like it or not, the anime is canon. As you are the originator to the claim that the anime is non-canon, I am waiting for a source.
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>>14466957
>the anime is canon
It isn't.
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>>14466964
I really don't get it. Are you just interested in having the last word in this post chain? The burden of proof is on you.
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>>14466931
>>14466939
New to the here, how do I get the second slot?
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>>14466980
It'll be unlocked on the 18th. Until then you are only rolling for the first slot.

I recommend aiming for SR-SSR pilots as they will probably be rarer.
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>>14466972
There is nothing to prove. The anime isn't canon.
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>>14466984
Cheers! Got Kei the other day trying to go for Yui or Meiya. But if I get Type-R I might switch.
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>>14466988
Katia's route is the canon route.

The LN is Katia's route.

The anime is adapting the LN.

Ergo, the anime is canon. You have said quite literally nothing that would imply otherwise, and seem to be posting with circle arguments.
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Is it me, or the design looks kinda like a anime style?
https://twitter.com/v2_oki/status/751417597850062848?lang=en
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>>14467046
It kind of does. But I doubt age will throw us a full Zerberus anime so soon.
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>>14467006
The anime isn't canon.
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>>14467046
Why is Luna so perfect
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>>14466764
Y'know something can be official and still poorly made. Everyone who read the LNs i.e Nips and chinese were dissatisfied with it and said at least a few of the characters were butchered. That doesn't mean you can't like it but forcing the story to hit the same basic plot points in a new medium with the limited space they had meant gutting a lot of what made certain parts of the story and characterization work, leaving stuff out, and adding stuff in.

Which means >>14467006 the anime can't be canon because despite roughly being the same overall story it is inherently different. And when character driven tragedy is the best thing SM has going for it these differences can be disastrous to the overall quality of the work.

>>14466723
Between a series of light novels, two visual novels, and a twelve episode anime adaption, the anime is a small fraction of what these characters are as a whole. Again and again you make arguments based on your own biased opinion of the worst rendition of the entire cast while ignoring everything else about the characters, then claim that the LN and anime are one in the same as canon while you take the example "barely gets any screentime" as a valid point against them and judge them for it.

You have no argument unless you bury your head in the sand and ignore 90% of the material at your disposal.
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>>14466599
they're still the worst girls compared to every other series. te > yurofront > main series > tda > sm
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>>14466939
does this mean it's impossible to get both the shiranui second and the 00r?
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>>14467673
>te and eurofront before trilogy
This post can be ignored.
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>>14467696
Probably.

If second slot gacha is for coins, then only CP Sumika and Pilot Cryska are going to be SSRs there. >>14448234

And don't ask me what CP means, its something not Pilot.
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>>14468104
>Watching anime before the main series is bad.
If they are interested in muv luv, they already know the twist
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>>14468157
I didn't say anything about being bad, I said it can be ignored.
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>>14468157
eurofront doesn't have an anime

that guy just has bad taste
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>>14468104
te and yuro girls are 100% semen demons. original trilogy only has meiya.
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>>14468340
>original trilogy only has meiya.
Your shit taste is terminal, I'm almost sorry.
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>>14468373
Out of the main trilogy girls, Meiya and Kei are the only ones I like.
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>>14468588
>this is 2016 /m/
It's like coming home to find the locks have changed.
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>>14468614
Chizuru is the best girl in the entire franchise, prove me wrong
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>>14468633
But you're right.
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>>14468633
>Chizuru is the best girl in the entire franchise, prove me wrong
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>>14468614
I love how people always get so upset about others' taste in women, which, next to music and art, is one of the most subjective things on the planet.
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>>14468781
my personal favorite is people who have only watched the anime and haven't read any of the VN's
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>>14468648
Used goods.
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>>14468149
>CP
Command post.
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>>14469074
>implying
I hope you aren't defending Chizuru with that argument.
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>>14468648
Pic unrelated I'm assuming. Still waiting.
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>>14469085
Her mom is. She is not.
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>>14469172
Like mother, like daughter.
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>>14469171
Post unrelated I'm assuming. I'm now waiting for you prove me wrong.
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>>14469074
Harumani isn't canon
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>>14469074
like the other anon said, her VN isnt canon. But as well, out of all the muvluv heroines she has never ACTUALLY had sex with Takeru, making her the purest of them all
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>>14469200
Wasn't it in alter fable she was confirmed a non virgin?
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>>14469342
no
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>>14469342
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>>14469342
Altered Fable isn't canon either
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>>14469367
Altered Fable is canon as of 2016.
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>>14469374
the game literally says in it's opening it isn.t canon. So.
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>>14469379
As of 2016 literally says as of 2016. So.
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>>14469387
you can't just go back and change what is and isnt canon.
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>>14469391
Why don't you go and play the copy with Photon Melodies before you tell me more of your ignorant shit.

As of, (meaning presently) 2016, (the current year) Altered Fable is canon.
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>>14469396
how bout no, the burden of proof lies with you.
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>>14469403
>gets told where it says Altered Fable is canon
>hurr burden of proof
You may be braindead.
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>>14469408
I can't exactly play it myself. It isn't canon to me, and I won't accept anything less than kouki's official tweet or some shit saying it is.
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>>14469418
Kouki told me it's canon when i met him over at the AX booth.
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>>14469418
>I can't view the proof so you're wrong
>It's not canon in my mind
That maybe has changed into definitely.
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>>14469424
kek that's funny
>>14469425
Sorry but I dont need added degrading info on my waifu k thanks.
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>>14469428
>Sorry but I dont need added degrading info on my waifu k thanks.
That wasn't the point of my argument, but now your denial starts to make sense, if barely.
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>>14469438
Sorry If I didnt make it clear at first, I am the resident /m/ Kashifag who appears from time to time. And yes, I really dont like being told that the love of my life one day is pure, then the next isn't. At the very least one thing holds true, is that she is STILL the only heroine to not actually have sex with Takeru.
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>>14469448
Because Takeru has taste.
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>>14469453
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>>14469453
Unlike you.
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>>14469461
>Tumblr
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>>14469500
Got a problem with google image search, scrub?
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>>14469424
>Implying it's not a possibility Kouki was just trolling
Top kek
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Yo /m/ I have an extra superior bundle, $500 + shipping or if 3 of you want shit I can get the triple daki bundle and sell them individually.

My original buyer backed out.
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>>14470381
You have an extra collectors edition of Muv-Luv you could sell? My friends been interested.
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ok let's get this shit started:

meiya > helga > stella > cryska > munakata > ellen > sharon > latrova > cui > ilfriede > yui > touko > inia > tsukuyomi > luna > haruko > haruka > mitsuki > kei > akane > daryl > lilia > iris > sumika > katia > pham > anett > chizuru > tama > mikoto > sylvia > tarisa > beatrix > lise
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>>14470456
Just off the top of my head, you forgot Yuuko, Yuzu, Marimo, and Ellen.
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>>14470456
Its shit.
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>>14470456
>tryin to start shit

Don't mind if we do. There is so much wrong with that list I don't know where to start, but a big fuck you to you too for getting best girl so wrong.
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>>14470456
Pretty accurate in my opinion.
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>>14470476
Nah, ignoring the rest of the list, he got the best girl right.
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>>14470500
all the main 5 are the best girls
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>>14470500
Well sure if you flip the list upside down, rearrange a few here and there and then bam, you got a perfect list. Meiya is pretty good though, she should certainly be high up there.
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>>14470527
Regardless of personal rankings, anyone other than Meiya or Sumika as #1, even if you don't like them, is objectively wrong.
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>>14470551
>objectively wrong taste in women
I mean I know we like to jest here but, anon, c'mon.
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>>14470551
While i'm a Meiya fag as well i somewhat disagree since you didn't mention Yuuko, Marimo or Kasumi as acceptable choices either.
Sumika, Yui, Chizuru are bottom tier.
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>>14470456
How ML has fallen. The girls get hotter and hotter with each new game, but their personalities have all gone to shit. It's no suprise that Katia has the best personality in SM but the plainest appearance.
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>>14470555
You can't deny their importance to the story, which is why Meiya and Sumika and #1. I personally don't like Sumika, but she and Takeru are the reason humanity even has a chance. I usually put more thought into my rankings, rather than just basing it on who I find most attractive.
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>>14470569
>Katia plainer than Gretel

Sure thing.
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>>14470571
>The most importance
>Continues to ignore Yuuko, Marimo and Kasumi
lel
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>>14470571
Or maybe the girls don't have to be ranked in the first place. The entire concept is ludicrous which is why it inevitable falls to personal taste, you can't keep biased opinions out of rankings like this. And theres more to a character than their plot relevance or protagonist status.
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Does anybody happen to have that picture of the MLA discs that were broken in rage?
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>>14470456
> ranking Lise as last
fuck you anon. i repeat, FUCK YOU.
if Stasi didn't tainted her like fuck, she could have been the best imouto anyone wished for.

& anon, FUCK YOU again for putting Beatrix above Lise.
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Every other girl in Muv Luv > Sumika > Literal shit > Chizuru > Stepping on a piece of lego > Suzy
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>>14471145
I think it should go like this.
Cryska > Inia > Beatrice > every other girl in Muv Luv >= Yui > Sumika > Literal shit > Chizuru > Stepping on a piece of lego > Suzy.
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>>14471182
>Cryska and Inia
Latrova and Tasha were my favourite Russian tag team desu
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>>14471194
Eh, I might be biased then.
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Did anyone understand what the "secret team" with the submarine was in TE's Guadeloupe arc? Did they trap Yuuya and Yui on the island on purpose? Who were the soldiers on the island? Why is the Master involved?
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Too all Meiya fags out there.
What do you think of Lafiel from the Stars Chronicles?
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>>14471380
Shit.
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>>14470395
not really I only have the rewards besides the codex and the games.
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>>14471073
Quit starting sentences with ampersands, you illiterate fuck.
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>>14471729
must be autocorrect shit kicks in.

btw, take this you literate fuck.
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so when is that codex thing going to be ready?
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>>14471073
I'd move Beatrix to last and bump Lise up to right below Katia. Then the list would be accurate.
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>>14471923
Which list, the biggest animeonlies on 4chan?
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>>14471930
It's not like the visual novel will really change my opinion on characters.
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>>14471946
If wilful ignorance is your thing, who am I to deny you?
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>>14471950
What? Just because I really don't like Beatrix or don't see Lise as the absolute best girl?
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>>14471954
>It's not like the visual novel will really change my opinion on characters.

Not him, but stubbornly clinging to a opinion made before all the facts come in, does reek of wilful ignorance.
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>>14471954
>Just because
No, just because you're an animeonly. If you don't understand the connotations behind that term and the context it means for SM, then I can't really help you.
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>>14471961
>animeonly
I really hate that term and how people use it to discredit other people's opinions.
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>>14472070
>I really hate that term
Okay? Doesn't really matter.
>how people use it to discredit other people's opinions.
See, this is what I meant by context for SM. You, as an animeonly, are basing your opinions on the caricatures of the characters depicted in the anime. That's all fine and dandy if you keep it to yourself, it's just the real problem is when people parade that opinion as the end all argument. The characters you saw in the show are just not the same characters in the LN or VN. That's all there is to it. You've already stated that being proven wrong won't change your opinion so I would prefer if you didn't latch on to a term and instead focused on the real issue, your aforementioned wilful ignorance.
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>>14471960
>>14471961
Beatrix joined the stasi and genuinely believes in it. She's cruel by nature, not nurture like Lise. She might have been an OK person at one point, but it didn't take all that much of a push to turn her into an evil psycho. From a meta perspective, she just doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the cast or story. For the most part, SM tries to be a serious political drama, but then you have the violently sexual Beatrix, who seems like a villain to a cheesy action movie like James Bond then the story SM is trying to tell (and not even a main villain, but one of those quirky henchmen). But then, it seems to be a problem plaguing most of SM, as it seems like it can't decide what type of story it wants to be many times. Beatrix just epitomizes it because she sticks out like a sore thumb, which is why I don't like her, not just as a person, but as a character.
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>>14472122
>Beatrix joined the stasi and genuinely believes in it.
Her father eventually told her to sign on with Axmann because he wanted to use her as a mole inside the Stasi. Obviously, Beatrix resisted, but Abel won out (Chapter IX, where he apparently talks to her about it is called "Noblesse Oblige" or something)

I'm not really going read past that since you're already wrong at the start.
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>>14472122
>She's cruel by nature
Not even Type-94 agrees with you, since the Sadism is anime-original.

>She might have been an OK person at one point
Ask anyone who's been separated from their girlfriend or lover for years at a time, staying loyal to her bf for 5 years while he is deployed is not merely being "an OK person".
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>>14472174
>Not even Type-94 agrees with you, since the Sadism is anime-original.

>she’s kind of a one-note villain in the original novels.

>Now that I’m reevaluating Beatrix as a character, it occurs to me that she and Axemann are set up to represent different types of evil. Beatrix is someone who believes wholeheartedly in what she is doing – it’s just that what she is doing is evil. Axemann, however, has no ideology.

>So there’s something to think about: who is the greater evil? The one who devotes herself mind and soul to evil? Or the one who serves, but has no loyalty to, an evil cause?

He concludes by drawing equivalency between Axmann and Beatrix. They were equally evil, or so close that it was difficult to tell who was worse.
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Gentlemen, I like kuuderes with white hair that are sisters to each others. Therefore I hope that I'll roll Cryska after 18th.

How many rolls did you need to roll your first SSR?
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>>14472188
That guy is full of bullshit. Beatrix is plenty deep. Her relationship with Jurgen is pretty heavily implied, enough so that the 2channers were talking about her love of Iris's brother all the way back in 2013 (even if the prevailing opinion back then was still that Bea was a carpetmuncher with the hots for Iris):

http://toro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/magazin/1380343977/

>751
ベアトリクスって実はアイリスディーナの兄貴と繋がってたりしてな
アイリスが兄貴売ったせいで何もかもぶち壊しになって

Beatrix and Irisdina's older brothers were actually lovers
and Iris ruined everything when she sold out her brother.

ベア様がアイリス兄と繋がってたのはもう既出情報?
So the current belief is that Beatrix was connected to Iris's brother?

ベア様がアイリス兄と恋仲だったことは臭ってくるけど、 シュタージの人間が反体制派の人間とそんな関係になれるものか?
How did someone as rotten as Beatrix come to love Iris's brother; wasn't she stasi and he a dissident?
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>>14472207
>Iris fighting the gays
Good girl
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>>14472188
>>she’s kind of a one-note villain in the original novels.

And what note is that supposed to be? Because the four translated chapters already paint a more complex character than the one we got in the anime.

>>Beatrix is someone who believes wholeheartedly in what she is doing – it’s just that what she is doing is evil. Axemann, however, has no ideology.
>it’s just that what she is doing is evil.
It "just happens" huh? So in any other situation, if she were to be separated form evil, there would be no guarantee that she would turn out the same.

>[...]who is the greater evil? The one who devotes herself mind and soul to evil?

There is that supposed tweet from the Author, where he stated what the core attributes of each character were, and Beatrix's was supposed to be loyalty, devotion (and by implication fatalism). In such case, even in the case that she was not a true believer, becoming the "model" enforcer is not too far off. After all she only fought back against "orders from above" twice in her life. Once when her dad wanted her to join the Stasi and second when Schmidt wanted to use nukes.
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>>14472232
>Beatrix's was supposed to be loyalty, devotion
Isn't it implied that Beatrix is misinterpreting Jurgne's wishes and it's Iris who's in the right?
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>>14472312
Both of them are misinterpreting it if you really think about it.

However the true best end for East Germany would probably be if the two reconciled and worked together.
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>>14472312
Beatrix is just as broken as Lise or Sylwia, but she doesn't even have anything to look forward too and no one to cling too. She's a woman resentful that her lover left her behind. Like Jurgen said in his final recording to her, she's in a pit of vipers and she has to be strong to survive. The only thing she has left are his ideals, which is why she so fanatically clings to them.

When Theo killed her, it's telling that she's relieved that he's removing all her burdens:
外部マイクが衛士の獅し子し吼くを拾う。そして自身の胸元に迫る短刀──ベアトリクスはそれを満足気に見つめた。

It's obvious that she never really wanted to live the life that she did.
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>>14472312
Except for being a naive tool, Katia probably came the closest.
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>>14472312
>Isn't it implied that Beatrix is misinterpreting Jürgen's wishes and it's Iris who's in the right?
There is of course the question of who was closer to Jürgen, his girlfriend or his sister, and who got it right, but the existing summaries of BiS point to Beatrix, though that doesn't imply that she could have gotten it wrong. After all, her loyalty could always be to idealized version of her dead bf and not the real him, though that applies to Iris as well. Or that after seven years in the Stasi, five without any moral compass, she has lost her way.
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>>14472337
>>14472357
Nobody was right. Everyone's ideals has tradeoffs and compromises. Even Katia's which attempted to have neither.
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>>14471380
She's great.
>>14471463
>Durr she's shit because i haven't watched it
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>>14472671
No, i watched it, and except the first series, the sequels were utter shit.
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>>14472232
>It "just happens" huh? So in any other situation, if she were to be separated form evil, there would be no guarantee that she would turn out the same.
No, I think he's saying that Beatrix is evil by nature. Axmann consciously chooses to be bad to serve his needs while Beatrix can't help but be evil. Remove her from the situation and she'd still be doing bad shit. Put Axmann in a situation where he does not benefit from being evil, and he won't. It's pragmatic evil vs chaotic evil.
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>No, I think he's saying that Beatrix is evil by nature. Axmann consciously chooses to be bad to serve his needs while Beatrix can't help but be evil. Remove her from the situation and she'd still be doing bad shit. Put Axmann in a situation where he does not benefit from being evil, and he won't. It's pragmatic evil vs chaotic evil.
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Does Gretel look better with short hair?

Y/N
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>>14474172
She looks best with a ponytail
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>>14474172
Different, but i couldn't say it was better or worse
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>>14473560
>No, I think he's saying that Beatrix is evil by nature. Axmann consciously chooses to be bad to serve his needs while Beatrix can't help but be evil. Remove her from the situation and she'd still be doing bad shit
There is now a whole LN series claiming the opposite.
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>>14474692
According to Type-94, she was a flat villain up until BiS.
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>>14474856
>>>she’s kind of a one-note villain in the original novels.

>And what note is that supposed to be?Because the four translated chapters already paint a more complex character than the one we got in the anime.
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>>14474920
Er, she's kind of generically evil in the first volume.
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>>14474929
And yet her motivations are already stated and she has a sense of humour. And the loyalty of her subordinates is explained in a way that throws the "smiles at the deaths of everyone" out of the window.
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Can we all agree that Takeru is literally Guts?
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>>14474981
You mean Guts from Berserk? I dunno, it seems like Guts had it way worse. In-universe, Guts was raped, saw his girl raped by his former best friend, and ended up losing and eye and hand. Takeru, on another hand...Sumika got off pretty badly, but it wasn't like he was personally betrayed, and even though he dies over and over again at least his body remains sound.

And on a meta level...the ML animes at least looked better than the present Berserk anime, and the VNs themselves are arguably better animated. It's hard to think of anyone who suffers as much as Guts ;_;
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>>14475010
Will ML ever reach Celica's level of suffering?
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>>14475021
what's suffering level on that subject? enlighten me.
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>>14475021
Can't read moonrunes, so I have no idea what he went through. I only know that he killed a goddess to obtain her body or something.
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