Mobile Suit Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop

Don't.

It's nothing but your sight my delight.

also fart on Glory of the Losers
thanks Katoki thats what this series needs, more bits and bobs on the mechas and a ton of extra modules

YOUR SIGHT

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from the 2 or 3 volumes I've read it was okay. I really liked the flash backs of Treize.

>liking gundam wing

kys

>>14425532
no seriously
what does Heavy arms need? a hand held gun, removing the suits interesting flaws and also removing the impetus behind one of the cooler fights in Wing. also you know what else, HELICOPTER BACK PACK. and Tallgeese needs a spear and Shenlong a big ol sword, ect. like and lets not have them be shit that used again and again just once there for not really endearing them to the audience at all

sides the EW versions worked cooler as upgrades to the upgrades

>>14425580
i like many teen were exposed to Gundam though Wing on Toonami
I also love G Gundam and Dragon Ball
im a man of my times, also i rewatched it like a year or so back. held up, not as cool as i remember and kinda melancholy on purpose but i like it

>>14425614
>kinda melancholy
Weird way to say slow paced and void of passion.

>>14425634
I liked it until Zech went retarded and tried to nuke the earth.

>>14425634
>slow paced
YES
>void of passion
no i think it was just "melancholy on purpose" it was deliberately deliberate and quiet.

>>14425522
are they in disguise or something?

>>14425543
ive been trying to find reveiws and the only one i found was a pissed off fangirl who unironically used the phrase "raped my childhood"

>>14425662
no its just that Robots in cloaks are COOOOOOL
also that have no official designs

>>14425634
>void
It's 'devoid', you mindless cunt.

is there a Series Recomendation image for Gundam?

>>14425543
Those flashbacks were great. Leo battles at Bulge and the Lunar battles were written really well.

>>14425729
either in production order
or go with original series / 3 part movies -> zeta -> ZZ -> Chars Counterattack then watch the 8th ms team -> 0080 : war in a pocket and 0083 stardust memories and for the final part of early Universal Century watch Gundam Unicorn (not the tv version ) after that i would recomend to watch Gundam F91 and Victory also the Crossbone manga after that your free to watch any other Gundam series

>>14425890
thats what I thought. loved every page. unfortunately if animated they'd probably skip those, no gundams after all.

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>>14425604
>what does Heavy arms need? a hand held gun, removing the suits interesting flaws and also removing the impetus behind one of the cooler fights in Wing.

What flaw? The gun was always handheld. It just covered the hand in the old show. It could even be stored on the back, though we only saw that in the intro.

>>14426065
in the show it was attached to the arm, it was a point that when it ran out of energy it was a useless weight and exacerbated the fact that Heavyarms had no close rage weaponry, thats why in its fight with Wing, it was modified to be able to eject the gun and had a beam saber mounted beneath it it defend it self against Wing in close combat.
im not sure why your pictured model/toy doesn't have it like that but the show proper always had it attached to the arm.
nor does it make a bunch of the other Katoki addons and changes less arbitrary and silly

>>14426106
It could always detach the gattling. Trowa modded it to not have the arm after ejecting the gattling because it was dead weight at that point during Heero's fight against Tallgeese. But normally if you remove the gattling the arm would still be there.

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>>14426109
And there was still a beam saber hidden in its arm for Heero in the manga.

>>14426109
i dont remember it like that but its been a while since ive seen Wing so ill take you word
i remember that fight rather vividly and i suppose i assumed it was attached because it jettisoned the whole arm
still not fond of Katokis designs though, at least in comparison to the TV versions

>>14426119
damn thats some good line work
i wish i had the guts to use Gundam pens, but the rule that youll screw up the first model you try it on sure makes me not want to ugly-fy the first $20-$50 hunk of plastic i put them too

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Here's Heavyarms with both arms.

>>14426142
hey i was wrong! i admit it!
still my favorite mech and pilot from that show.

>>14425522
If you could get through the entirety of Wing + Endless Waltz without throwing your hands up in disgust, you'd probably survive it.

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>>14426119
That mod was in the show as well as the manga. It's been fucking decades but I seem to recall Heero commenting that he would have preferred the arm to be left there (ie: being an ungrateful bitch).

Side note, how does Trowa sit in the cockpit of the Heavyarms without the chest gatlings simultaneously frying him alive and turning his inner ears to mush?

>>14426162
space age gundanium magically blocks sound

>>14426130
Get some q-tips and rubbing alcohol Gundam pens are really easy to wipe off if you screw up

Snow White has a crossbow that shoots 7 different rounds including an ice storm, firebird and tornado.

Epyon White is a white Epyon with Nataku weaponry.

Sherazhade (no idea how it's spelt) I'd a belly dancer Gundam

Gundam Prometheus has infinite rounds as it's nanomachines produces ammo for its cross like gatling gun

Gundam Warlock can turn into a zoid

Basically what happens when you take LSD before writing a novel.

>>14427384
Sound cool imo

>>14427384
All of these concepts sound cool except the belly dancer Gundam.Does it have any other gimmicks besides being a belly dancer?

>>14427483
has a rainbow cape that can block things iirc.

>>14427295
yup i actually recommend thinning/cleaning the line a bit with q-tips/alcohol as it gives it a more realistic look and adds some very minor edge wear

>>14427496
Better than nothing, I guess.

>>14427504
>Better than nothing
they had a tight budget

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>>14427384
Snow White is fucking OP.

I went through the mechatalk forum a while ago to get all the Snow White info from the FT thread, have fun.

- Built upon a MS frame [later said to be the Proto Zero frame] found abandoned inside a Winner family asteroid. These 4 Gundanium frames were supposed to be used in the 2nd Lunar War but never saw the light of the day.

- Heero's new MS. Equipped with at least 1 Beam Saber and a new Buster Rifle that resembles a crossbow, also has the Zero System. The new Buster Rifle is even stronger than Wing Zero's but now it's cartridge based.

- The Buster Rifle can use special cartridges called the Seven Dwarfs which enable wide are devastating attacks. The known ones so far are:
*Red: Creates a flaming bird, used in conjunction with Blue to make a thermal shock attack.
*Blue: Creates an ice swan.
*Black: Creates a tornado.
*White: Creates a EMP storm which can disable Virgo IV's.
*Silver: Creates an arrow that has Mad Gundanium at the tip and produces a light drill when piercing.
*Green: Diffusion shots that materialize and entangle enemy MS.
*Gold: Anti-MD effect, nanomachines that disable all unmanned units (apparently an upgraded form of Tallgeese Heaven's ability).

- It's supposed to have the angel wings since when it moves it creates feathers. [We know it does now and they're held in position by nanomachines]

- Uses a special anti nano cloak that both protects it from the Mars nanomachines and from surveillance satellites granting a degree of stealth.

- Survived a direct hit from BWZ's Twin Buster Rifle.

- Has a transport capsule called Glass Coffin. The capsule is equipped with a trap called Poison Apple, which comes from the shattered glass and releases an electromagnetic charged corrosive gas (apple shaped red gas cloud, when in contact with air it becomes black).

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>>14427678
Best look we got at MC-era Scherenzarde

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>>14427678
And here's Prometheus

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>>14427684
MC>AC

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>>14427678
Warlock Fenrir Mode

>>14427753
I hope that AC version never sees the light of day with that fucking headpiece.

>>14427691

It's goofy and stupid and looks like something I would have drawn when I was fifteen.

I fucking love it.

>>14427678
Tell me anon.
Was this written by a fantasy writer wanabee? Are they female?
At this point you might as well have literal wizards in the story.

>>14427875
Not him, but look at Sumisawa's resume.
https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=3748

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>>14427684
How old Zechs and Noin are supposed to be there? They are not ten like pic related.

>>14427770
i cant even really tell what thats supposed to be
>>14427678
>flaming bird
>ice swan
like, these are supposed to be war machines right? not magic wands

also part of me wants to star writing all this down to put on the wiki, they have NO info there for this stuff.

>>14427678
I don't know what to say, this sounds absolutely terrible. It's worse than fanfics written by 11 year olds. I hope this never gets adapted and GoL goes on some other path.

>>14428405
GOL has Frozen Teardrop weaved into the story.

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>>14428444
Yep. Zechs remembers piloting Satan (AC-era Warlock) in a chapter.

>>14428454
If by some miracle it actually got animated the story would be greatly reworked. Bandai would only have it animated if they felt it was going to make money so all of the cloaks and shit would be gone pretty early.

>>14428454
it actually looks semi wolf like unlike the FT picture of it

>>14427384
>Epyon White is a white Epyon with Nataku weaponry.
how so?
like flame throwers and a dragon arm? a beam trident?

>>14428573
Dragon arm with an incredibly powerful beam cannon in it and a beam trident.

>>14428622

Does it transform into a Ghidorah like dragon MA mode?

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>>14428632
The dragon arm is fixed on the back to give it "three heads" when in MA mode

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>>14428668

Eh.

Anyway, what's /m/'s current opinion on Epyon? Is it still an edgey fuckmachine?

>>14428668
>>14428622
ok thats pretty cool
>>14428692
i mean i like it.
i always did, i like the concept of a Gundam thats just a big physical power house made to dismantle other MSs. i like that it has no ranged weapons (maybe aside from vulcans????) the ship is neat the saber is neat.
its a good "final boss" MS

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>>14428668
Here's a color MS mode pic from the picture drama.

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>>14428913
And a badass custom kit

>>14428918
Whoa Epyon, what's wrong with your leg?
... WAIT THAT'S NOT YOUR LEG.

>>14428692
I've always thought it silly that the "bad guy" suits have to have dark color schemes and sharp angles and such. It made sense for the Master Gundam because of the type of show G was, but stuff like the Epyon and the Frost Brothers' suits seem silly to me.

>>14428918
i assume the trident is on a cord like the OG Epyon's saber

>>14429024
That seems like a terrible idea. Unless it has some bullshit nano-machines that can untangle cables.

>>14429047
it might have swiveling couplings along the tube

>>14429024
It isn't

>>14429258
aw

>>14425941
is it recommended to watch the series and CCA before going into the side movies?
i figger the movies might make a good palate cleanser between series

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>>14425532
>>14425604
I'm kind of lukewarm on GoL itself but you sound like a complete no-fun bitch. The manga fixes just about every gripe I had with the EW designs. I'd even go so far as to say a number of them are far superior; case in point, turning the double scythe into a giant scythe/halberd hybrid, which gets rid of the redundant second scythe and gives it something that actually has an actual field application (longer slash range.)

>sides the EW versions worked cooler as upgrades to the upgrades
This was literally never the case.

>>14429004
Even as a Kid I felt something was off about epyons colors. I've never really felt like that was a color scheme Trieze would put on a suit. It just doesn't suit him. It was even worse when he flies into the last few episodes in a Tallgeese in classic gundam colors.

>>14430611
>This was literally never the case.
for years they were called Gundam Blabla Custom because they were so drastically different from the end versions in the show and there was no official word for why til Katoki said "no yeah their the same just my version of it" and hence forth all his designs were verEW.
and to be fair im not a huge fan of that because some on the EW designs are super divorced from what was in the show, like Wing Zero completely loses its transformation in favor of a atmospheric reentry wings. which is super werid given Zero is supposed to be a proto type Wing.
and im also not fond of the goofy one time use modules that exist to exist

>>14430876
They use the modules more than once. Deathscythe uses the Wings throughout the early parts of the story. Sandrock uses the Armadillo equipment throughout the early parts of the story. The modules make sense. They are all sent to Earth alone and need as much of an advantage they could get. It would even make sense if they were one off since after Heero blows up they stop getting missions so no more equipment.

>>14430929
i shouldn't have used hyperbole but still they feel more like arbitrary additions that were Katoki goofing around and adding shit to model kits

>>14431166
Katoki wants money. Those units already have Master Grades so the best way of milking more money from them is additions like that. It's probably why Wing Zero has the new gimmicks it has with the chest and ears opening.

is there any where to READ these novels or do i need to read Moon?

>>14431166
I'd agree with this for the most part. Shenlong's extra sword is the only one that doesn't seem tacked on.

>>14431268
really? i mean Shenlong is the most close ranged equipped gundam of the five with the trident and the claw, i didnt seen why hed need a sword

The majority of the addons are by the mangaka, Katoki only did Proto Zero, Epyon, Messer Zwerg and Altron/Hells new toys

>>14431372
That's why it makes sense to me, give it another sword since it's a close range unit. More logical than making the Heavyarms a helicopter or giving Deathscythe those tiny wings.

>>14430929
Everytime the armadillo was used, it was shed within that same fight iirc.

are ther any acans or pictures of the Wyvern or Tallgeese Heaven?

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>>14430876
>Wing Zero completely loses its transformation in favor of a atmospheric reentry wings. which is super werid given Zero is supposed to be a proto type Wing.

The Proto Zero and the Wing Zero Custom are two different machines in GoL.

>>14431372
Ignoring the vulcans, Shenlong has flamethrowers. Sandrock and Deathscythe only have single use ranged weapons (clavicle missiles and the buster shield).

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>>14431497
Sandrock TV has missiles and an army. while GOL Sandrock has a crap ton of optional weapons and an army.

>>14431419
Those Wings were said to give it mobility on par with Wing Gundam. Heavyarms getting a flight pack makes it easily for it to take out transport carriers and targets out at sea.

>>14431491
wait really? that just confuses things further then
where does WZC come from in GoL

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>>14431491
I thought Proto Zero was repaired and given angel wings by Howard, at which point they renamed it Wing Gundam Zero.

>>14431539
Wing Proto-Zero gets damaged during its fight with Deathscythe.
Tallgeese Flugel gets damaged during its encounter with Deathscythe.
Wing Zero gets repaired by using the Flugel's wings.

>>14427691
how the fuck do you hold that gun when fireing

>>14431568
>Tallgeese Flugel
the what now

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>>14431541
>>14431568
Yeah, my bad. That's how it went. Point is they didn't just introduce Zero with the angel wings right off the bat, we get the regular transforming Zero for a while then it get salvaged into Wing Zero Custom.

>>14431573
This beauty.

>>14431595
is hat an addon or a whole new MS?
cause thats kinda neat
I woulda liked that kinda thing for all the customs

>>14431606
when zechs goes into space with howard's group, they upgrade his tallgeese with the angel wings

>>14431568
>it took a manga 20 years later to have Duo win some fights
seriously he wasn't very good in the anime. only that one fight with the Heero/Trowa mobile dolls was his only highlight everything else was either getting captured by Oz or just saying a one liner.

>>14431639
Sadly, its meeting with Flugel wasn't much of a fight.

>>14431621
so with FT that makes five different Tallgeeses

>>14431724
there always were 5 different tallgeese units

Tallgeese 1 through 3, then there's the one that meiran used, and tallgeese heaven

tallgeese flugel is just a modification of the tallgeese I

>>14431757
>then there's the one that meiran used
which one?

>>14431776
>>14431757
just looked it up, is that how shes died in the show?

>>14431776
It was in the Episode Zero manga. Don't have a pic though. I recall it having a Leo head.

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>>14431776
>>14431788
She's a character in the Episode Zero and Glory of Loser mangas. The same story is told in both. In Episode Zero she uses a Tallgeese, but in the newer Glory of Losers retelling, she uses a Leo with Tallgeese type parts.

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>>14431837

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>>14430876
>for years they were called Gundam Blabla Custom
A term never used in the OVA, which goes out of it's way to show said Customs before Operation Meteor quite resembling their EW counterparts. In the context of the actual OVA, there WAS no upgrade (or if there was, the color palette remained the same.)

It wasn't until GoL that Katoki's EW versions of the pre-upgrade Gundams were actually used to depict their appearance in the beginning of Operation Meteor, effectively retconning the flashback sequences of the OVA.

>>14431901
thats not anything big, OVAs make that kind of oversight all the time especially when theres a new designer on board. hell it wouldnt even bee a first time for this franchise to have shit look different in flashbacks and retellings
and as far as retcons go its not like GoL overrides the anime here anyway, retellings never over ride the broadcast version. not even Tominos own.

>>14431837
>in the newer Glory of Losers retelling, she uses a Leo with Tallgeese type parts.

It was a Tallgeese without the face plate.

>>14425522

>>14427691
Trypophobia waiting to happen

Speaking of Gunadam Wing Spinoffs is there any place to read Episode Zero or the last outpost/G-unit?
Or Download them?

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>>14428668
>>14428918

>>14425580
>kys
Kill yourself

>>14435071
>>14428918
>just realised that the Dragon Fang is a modified leg
did they buy a whole other model just to cannibalize a leg

>>14427678
Holy shit hope this gets adapted just to see/m/ shit is self.

>>14425522

That's a big sheet.

>>14427384

>Scheherazade belly dancer

Oh, Japan, you're silly.

>>14427678
This is fucking stupid, even for Gundam.
Well, it's not like we haven't hit the bottom of the barrel already, so whatever

I just want to finally SEE the mobile suits.

>>14425522
What the fuck does Warlock look like?

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>>14443422
all we got

>>14443724
>deathscythe hell in a cloak with a pointy hood
At this point, I'm not sure if those black feathers are just there for effect or some sort of nanomachine device.

>>14443422
>>14443724
theres also a pic up in the thread of Zechs remembering its transformed state

>>14443757
That was because Katoki wouldn't release the designs so they slapped Deathscythe in a cloak.

Did Duo son and Zechs´s daughter fug in the end or not?

>>14445932
>That was because Katoki wouldn't release the designs
what

>>14445998
Katoki wouldn't release the designs to the people involved with the novel because he wanted to save them for an anime. This caused a lot of friction behind the scenes. He had to be begged to release Snow White for the volume twelve cover and even then it was felt that he was going to change that design anyway.

>>14446008
Put them at least on a videogame.

>>14446021
Nope, it's anime or nothing.

>>14446008
>>14446021
is he really that much of a primadonna?
i mean what either they dont go in an anime or they just get effectively scraped? not even like at the end of GoL or somthing.
i mean fuck i want to know what these things look like.

>>14446155
Katoki was just doing what he could to stop the FT trainwreck.

>>14446170
like he cared about FT more money in the bank for him with his designs.

>>14446174
>>14446155
i mean they'll probably gt released in some artbook eventually but still, it seems hella unprofessional to get hired to design mechs for something and then refuse to hand them over unless thy get animated

>>14446321
agreed but his name is big enough to get away with it

>>14446330
well thats even more shitty
and quality of FT aside (doubly so since ive heard both that its trash and a fun sequel from multiple people) the concept of its MS seemed neat

>>14427384
>Snow White has a crossbow that shoots 7 different rounds including an ice storm, firebird and tornado.
whenever I hear about Snow White's crossbow, I keep getting reminded of this thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqCdvDJ6KA

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>>14446360
>the concept of its MS seemed neat
yup sad hopefully at some point we'll get to see them. even just a bust in GOL would suffice

>>14446360
I know people hated the flashbacks but for me it was the best part. It certainly fleshed out and humanized Treize character for me. I also liked how character who where legends in the series were portrayed, like I didn´t imagine king peacecraft as a dorky dog lover.
The clone and nanomachines shit can go to hell trough.

>>14446373
is GoL still on going?

>>14446798
yes volume 11 or 12 recently came out iirc.

>>14446321
A FT artbook did come out.

Just character stuff. No MS.

>>14446953
well i meant more like an anniversary book or like "Katoki Works" or something like that
>>14446822
well maybe theyll pop up on the last volume or soemthing
especially since this manga is "cram everything GW in here"

>>14430694
It's Epyon supposed to be a dragon?

>>14425659
No, it was just slow and political. It had more politics than Star Wars Episode I, which made it boring and bland at best, and an unwatchable footslog at worst.

>>14447551
And not good politics even.
>Let´s make a war so bad that people are not gonna want to fight anymore!!!!

>>14448839
Except there's no such thing as good politics.

>>14448847
All right, trying harder to write good politics.

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>>14448839
The way culture developed in the alter ate history of the After Colony timeline, believe it or bot, that's actually a viable way to attain peace.

Young men and women are trained from VERY young ages to aspire to a noble soldier mindset, so much so that nobody but a war's victims really bat an eye at the prospect of war, and even aspire to fight in them. Humanity in wing is in desperate need of an "Oh shit" wake up call, which so guess is what Millardo was aiming for.

>>14449181
I mean it worked for Europe with the word wars but it causes the conflict in the middle east with Israel.

>>14449211
Also, isn't causing a war so bad people are afraid to fight again basically fear mongering?

>>14449229
>isn't causing a war so bad people are afraid to fight again basically fear mongering?
Is there a war? Yes or No?

Fear mongering or not isn't the issue; it's that war destroys lives and stuff, and that's the bad part that nobody likes. Reminding people that war is a perfectly good way to get yourself and the people you liked killed works.

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>>14449181
I hate how Naina was supposed to be the most important of the two and succesor of the Talgeese, then her brother hog the spotlight. Wing really hate women.

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>>14425522
TRASHHHHH! Seriously dont even touch it I read like a chapter and I swear it gave me cancer

>>14451079
Welcome to shonen anime, no cool girls allowed (for the most part)

>>14451090
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>>14451079
>noin is a boy
>zechs is a girl
damn you FT!

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>>14451204
Zechs(and Treize) should have been a grill. That would have made his angry ourtbust more understable.