Macross Delta

>>14404076
Literally who?

>>14404076

Who?

>>14404076
Did they really kill her off that quick?

>>14404082
>>14404080
Don't have the pic because I moved to a different computer, but it's the one from last episode that showed up as a reinforcement with the wavy green hair who had like one line during the briefing.

>>14404076

Doesn't the episode normally only air in 6 or so hours?

>>14404111
Why wouldn't they?

>green haired
kawamori please

>>14404206
She had Veffidas' voice too.

>>14404076
>RIP green-haired Chaos pilot,

Who? who we're talking about?

>>14404227

I don't remember Veffidas talking.

Ever.

>>14404128
It does, he's just being a faggot

>>14404253
She's such cannon fodder.

>>14404267
she didn't even have a name in the credits

>>14404241

She did on a few occasions, but only a tiny amount. She talked to Ray when she broke her drumsticks after one of the concerts in Dynamite I think for example.

>>14404296
i think it's been said she had 3 lines total in all of it.

>>14404312

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. I am still, and will always be dissapointed that she didn't sing in the finale though. It would have made such a great emotional beat to cap everyone singing for her to break her normal habit and join in.

Is the SV-252 Draken plamo out yet?

So is this http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/25/marine-corps-looks-to-fighter-jet-boneyard-after-new-fleet-delay.html?intcmp=hplnws basically why the VF-171's are still used in Delta?

>>14404581
They make nice grunt units anyway. Newer VFs look and feel too heroic to be used as mook units.

>>14404581
The real reason it's cheaper to reuse stuff from Frontier.

>>14404755

I can't say as I really but this argument. It's like saying the VF-1 shouldn't have been a mass produced unit. Nothing about the VF-19, VF-25 or VF-31 looks or feels too heroic to be used as a grunt, especially if you give it a less flamboyant color scheme like the VF-31A already has. Even if it was, you could design a new unit rather than reusing the VF17/171/EX three series in a row.

>>14404581
Delta takes place so far out in the galaxy, the biggest threat they had were Var, if not shit like pirates.
And they aren't that well off or important to warrant good grunts. The 171s work for what they are fighting most of the time, and Var is dealt by Walkure/Delta alone.

>>14404776
Satelight being lazy fucks and re-using Frontier CG models

>>14404784

They had to make models for the vf-171 in Frontier anyways, so I would be doubtful of that. More likely Kawamori is being lazy in my opinion.

What are those outfits

FREYJFAGS SUICIDE

>Hayate getting Messer's VF
>That song intro
ABSOLUTELY DECULTURE

What a fun episode

wa-wa-s that chuck's sister closing the door before the explosion during the ed?

Nice episode. Can't wait for next week. Hopefully we'll get a new OP since the first was played in this one as an insert song.

>>14404973
Elysion chaaaan....

>>14404956
It happened during the episode. She closed the door on her younger siblings, before she was blown away by fire-y water.

I don't think she'll be dead though

>mfw she ends up with Keith who was shot down. Keith / Chuck Sister / Messer was a triangle noone saw coming

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WEW

>>14405012
>>14404990

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN

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>>14405024
Freyja win

>>14405024
Both girls are falling for Hayate while he is oblivious.

I get that they are the main triangle but other characters are being neglected :( wanna know about Mikumo

>>14405050

Kawamori has no intention of solving that mystery yet, because playing it up creates more intrigue. Even if the main trio were ejected from the plot entirely he wouldn't do anything more with her.

>>14405050
Yeah. I hope the 2nd cour will explain more about Mikumo and give her more character. I'm fine with her mysterious past, but I don't like how she doesn't talk to anybody other than Freyja and on the rare occasion that she does, it's about the mission or weird shit like Fudo from Aquarion.

>>14405064
just hope it's not rushed at the end :( can't wait for the album <3 (lovin Kumokumo's Giraffe Blues part)

eps 13, where?!

>>14405080
it finished airing. Raw ought to be incoming soon. Screens were from live stream

>[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 13 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4.torrent

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>>14405124

>>14405086
guess have to wait subs.

btw i can't believe it will be 26 eps length, as anon claimed previously.
watch till latest eps 12, but still it can't be that 26 long episode.

>>14405152
9 BD's, 3 eps each. It's just like Frontier.

>>14405024
Hayate sees them both as friends.
>YFW Hayate already has a girlfriend.

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>>14405124

>>14405152
How fucking stupid are you?

>>14405152
>watch till latest eps 12
12 was the last episode 3 hours ago, no it's 13.

>>14405155
huh, hope the story would be acceptable because the pace pretty fast to me.

>>14405203
as stupid as you, who like to bash someone's post.

>>14405234
i know it's 13 but the latest i could get is 12.
shouldn't post while in game.

>>14405170
So outside of this, have there been any other references to past shows? Haven't been keeping up

>>14405307
A few.

>>14405313
Such as...? Are any of the characters related to past protagonists?

>>14405320
Have you been watching at all? Mirage is Max and Millias granddaughter

>>14405320

Mirage is Max and Millia's grand-daughter. Her mother is one of their children, a pilot, though not seen in any show. Her father is a doctor or something. Outside that I don't think there's any other characters who are related.

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>>14405307

>>14405337
Makina's said to be the granddaughter (great granddaughter?) of the mechanic from Zero

>>14405344

Oh yeah, there's too, forgot about her - though she's a relatively minor reference I guess.

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>>14405320
Fire bomber song (remember 16), Ranka beach, they showed ranka, they showed Sheryl and the fire bomber etc

we had Hayate use EX-gear this episode. That's a reference to Frontier. Those are also a thing

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I very loudly screamed here.

What if Mikumo was a part of the Protoculture race itself?

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>>14405377
I'm beginning this to be the case, more and more

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>>14405370
>Unit promoted!
Oi Hayate, you better not fucking mess this up!
AND DON'T YOU DARE LOSE ANOTHER FLIGHT LEAD!

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Alright, you know what, Hayate has to be playing this shit straight. Like come the fuck on

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I'm so happy

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>>14405377
M I D R I F F
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>>14405385
But Mina Forte isn't protoculture.

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>>14405404
Holy mother of protoculture, those toned abs

>>14405370
fuck.

My 1/72 VF-31J just came in, and Hayate upgrades already?

Did my purchase just get outdated already holy fuck.

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Characters who are dead

>>14405370

So he got Mirage's old number and Messer's VF?

>>14405422
Mirage was never Delta 2 though.

>>14405427
I believe Mirage was calling him Delta 4 this episode

do the other walkure members get new outfits too?

>>14405427
She became delta two last episode. They didn't repaint her valkyrie.

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>>14405428
Dude I haven't watched 13 yet!

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>>14405434
Yes

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>>14405444
I love how Walküre uses a lot of asymmetrical costumes.

>>14405437
I haven't even watched 12 yet!

>>14405422
Messer's VF-31 always had 02.

Arad 01
Messer 02
Chak 03
Mirage 04
Haya 05

>>14405454
then why are you making bold claims such as

>>14405427
>Mirage was never Delta 2 though.

So wow Delta is really ramping up to be quite fun.

The first 6 or so eps were boring as hell when compared to the first few eps of Frontier, but this is starting to get good!

>>14405467
Episodes 1-11?

I wonder if Chaos also offers CSAR work, like the USAF PJs.

>>14405473
>The first 6 or so eps were boring as hell

Speak for yourself. I enjoyed these early episodes more than i did frontiers.

>>14405496

if we are already halfway through they wasted a bunch of episodes doing nothing

>>14405510
I'm quite sure something has happened in every episode. Only one I would say was truly slow and could have been cut down was episode 5

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Wow, that's bold

>>14405510
Name one.

And with regards to frontier, all I have to say is episode 8

>>14404776
The VF-171 only resembles the VF-17 though, the fuselage and nose have a lot of major differences.

>>14405523

IMMELMANN DANCE RIGHT IN THE COOCH

>>14405523
>THE MILITARY ACADEMY DOESN'T PROVIDE TRAINING FOR THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS!
>T-THIS IS FRATERNIZATION R-RIGHT?! T-THIS IS A-AGAINST THE R-RULES RIGHT?!

>>14405526
New engines, avionics, weaponry, transformation mechanism is enhanced, new cockpit unites with EXGear, compability with VF-25 superpacks, among others.
They reused older airframes, just like everybody tends to do IRL.
>>14405532
>Mirage sends a letter to her family asking for help with romance.
>Aunts help. A lot.

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Wow, that's even bolder

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>>14405543
>>Aunts help. A lot.
>To get your man, you must beat him in a knifefight!
>No, no, mom. We all know a rocking tune gets the guy.
>Of course, the naive young sister shows her weakness! Only in a dogfight can you win the man!
>... What kind of family have I been born into

>>14405549
That's literally Freyja's imagination though

>>14405549
What a straight face he has there... even though he was playing with Mirage a little while ago.

>>14405566
No, it's a fold projection

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I remember someone said

>We will never see the Macross Ragna take off

Welp, there you go. Now they're a true fleet

>>14405543

The VF-171 and the VF-171EX can't mount VF-25 equipment.

The 171EX has its own armored pack, EX Gear compatibility, ISC, VF-19 engines, MDE weaponry and all around better avionics than the 171 does though.

>>14405595
They fucking evacuating?

>>14405599
They have too. Windys own the planet now

>>14405597
weren't packs adapted from those of Messiah? Chest pieces and engine pod mounted on wings looked almost identical.
>>14405595
Ok, I've missed that - where is NUNS fleet?

>>14405526
The 171 was based on the 17 but made to be a general purpose unit that isn't hard to use unlike the 17 which was more of a special operations VF.

And with all the upgrades they would have given it, the 171 is better than the 17 now, and stuff like Frontier's 171EXs are probably the best variants of the 171 out there.

HOLY FUCK WHAT AN EPISODE.

>>14405595
That's actually pretty cool and a good reason to keep the Islands around

>Colonise a planet
>but when shit happens, load everyone into Island-1 and get the hell out

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>>14405601
>>14405610
Ahaha fuck, It's gonna be Operation Overlord in the next few episodes, I take it?

>>14405605
Chest pieces are different.

>>14405543
>>14405606
My point was that with all the whining about reused assets, the VF-17 to VF-171 transition is not one of them.

>>14405605

Way different-looking than what the Messiah uses

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>>14405633
>>14405639
I'm still pretty disappointed we didn't get an F-16 expy. How the hell can I make Dos Gringos jokes now?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQAmvKMGUko

>>14405377
I think Mikumo is Protodevlin.

>>14405611
>load everyone
what is population growth?
>>14405617
>>14405639

Gah, I somehow managed to morph Isamu's 19 with EX variant in my head.
>>14405633
But they reused models with plausible explanation in universe.
IRL airframes stay in service as long as possible, as it is cheaper to use them rather than introduce something new. And they can spent budget designing new toys.
>>14405650
OH THANK GODS.

>>14405672
>OH THANK GODS.
B-but Muh Dos Gringos jokes!
>Mikumo singing I WISH I HAD A GUN JUST LIKE THE A-10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=335GdTqtyLs

>>14405668
You mean Sivil?
>>14405683
I was happy because of your picture. Was looking for it since friday. Now I can prove another anon that he is wrong on internet!

>>14405689
I prefer the JSDF colors personally, but the original artist deleted his pics when Delta was announced

I saw at least two SV-262's in that reaction warhead blast.

I'm guessing none of the main Knights were in that blast?

>>14405698
They probably keep the Draken as their ONLY fighter after they phased out the SV-51s for offensive use, so it's likely.

>>14405689

Pretty sure Kawamori said in an interview that she's not Protodeviln.

>>14405698
Not even the greenhaired nonpretty one. They'd have acknowledged it.

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>>14405705
Windermere did never use SV-51's. The older machine we've seen with them is the SV-154

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>>14405715
>Not even one-pieces

>>14405710
I'm convinced she's protoculture. He had one preserved show up in macross 30. He clearly feels comfortable in going there

>>14405719
Is there a full profile view of the 154? I need to confirm if it has any real-life inspiration. I'd like to say F-18C, but the wing roots don't match.

>>14405730
Just eye through the text. you'll see "F-104" there uttered by god himself.

VF-25 = 1620kN x 2
VF-27 = 1377 x 4
YF-29 = 2105kN x2 + 1470kN x2
YF-30 = 2,110kN x2
VF-31 = 1875kN x 2

>super prototypes

>>14405672
>But they reused models with plausible explanation in universe.
I don't have a problem with that. My problem is people who have a problem with that.

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>>14405737
Hah, explains the stubby wings.
Erich Hartmann would've been disappointed, though. He HATED the Starfighter.

How many episodes are left? Tell me that it didn't end here plz.

>>14405727
once again, Mina Forte from Macross 30 is not Protoculture.

>>14405738
>The VF-31 is only marginally better than the VF-25, and is shit on by the YF-29 and YF-30.

nice.

>>14405756
It's a 2-cour of sorts, mate.

>>14405765
what part of it is "of sorts"?

>>14405761
less power output doesn't automatically make it inferior. Do we know how heavy Sig-chan is?
Also, 31 is said to be next general use fighter, aimed at systems that aren't exactly wealthy. For what it is, basically F-18 to F-22, it is actually impressive.
And don't forget fold boost to the airframe, that skews all powerlevel talks.

>>14405756

It's 26 episodes +/- 1, just like Frontier. Only question is if it airs consecutively, or split in halves, but usually at this point they'd have announced whatever title would take the place in the schedule if they were going to split the season so we're probably looking at consecutive episodes.

>>14405765
>>14405787
>>14405787
>split in halves
This would be evil, very, very evil.

>>14405785
Well that's better than having a not!Flanker in space.
>Memories of Megalith go here

>>14405787
Next episode is next week

>>14405785

Yes. Model kit instructions say 8,525 kg without the modular equipment pod, and 2 x 1,875 kN maximum space thrust (+15% Overboost).

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Speaking of Slavaboo tears, I'd really like to know what would happen if Kawamori introduced a VF based on the Flankers or any of the Fulcrums.
Pic not related, I just wanted to post this Nosferatu

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>>14405812
>MFW Mig-21 valk
Or hell, lets be patriotic!

>>14405749

I don't really have a problem with it in and of itself, because yea, there's definitely justification for it. I have a problem with it more because Kawamori says that the newer VF's are too heroic (which I don't think isn't true) to make for good grunts and because he hasn't designed something less heroic to replace it even if he thinks existing designs are too heroic.

I'd also say it's kind of silly that the average pilot has been using the same airframe for 3 separate tv shows and for about 33 years in universe, where the VF-1 Valkyrie, VF-4 Lightning III and VF-11 Thunderbolt all had maybe half that as their shelf life (a lot less for the VF-1) as the main stay of the armed forces and two of them didn't even feature in any real capacity in actual shows. It seems like a wasted opportunity from a marketing perspective and just makes it kind of boring to see the same basic design showing up each time, even if there's some differences and fluff means the specs are different.

>>14405761

Well we've known with a while that the Siegfried is a lot worse off than any of them and even the Draken isn't as technologically advanced as any of them. Hayate will probably get a super prototype to replace them in some movies or something, but I doubt he's getting one in the tv show.

>>14405785
VF-31 = 8.5kg
YF-29 = 11.5kg

But the YF-29's extra weight comes almost entirely from its engines. It should be faster, have stronger ECA, stronger PPBs, and a stronger, heavy quantum beam gunpod. It can also supercharge its PPB with the output of the auxiliary engines to exceed the Mach 5.5+ atmospheric speed limit, so outrunning it isn't possible for a lower spec machine.

As for the fold boost, the YF-29 runs on a slightly older version of the same system and can be boosted the same way. Hell, we've SEEN it before.

The YF-29 is THE definition of a super prototype at this point.

>>14405824
>yfw it's Yak-38 Nee-san or her younger cousing, Yak-141
Slav abuse is real

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>>14405793
Yes.

>>14405832
>not YF-30.

>>14405807
>>14405844

>Chronos is 8.106kg
>Messiah 8.450 kg
>>14405825
>lot worse
Those aren't great differences, considering how much thrust valkiries already have.
>>14405832
But Y/VF-29 is expensive as hell, while 31 is almost as good for a noticeably less credits.
Also, all Frontier machines were obviously geared toward space use. Durandal was an exception but again, price. 31 seems to be superior atmo fighter.

>>14405837
Too kawaii.

>>14405825
>I have a problem with it more because Kawamori says that the newer VF's are too heroic (which I don't think isn't true) to make for good grunts and because he hasn't designed something less heroic to replace it even if he thinks existing designs are too heroic.
That's cool and all, but that's entirely your opinion. Kawamori has a different opinion. That argument ends there.

As for the older valks, they still get mass produced and sold to poor colonies. Using the same variable fighter makes sense because it's the last major one that the government supported and distributed far and wide. It has a ton of support, is easily modified (EX) and is a versatile and easy to handle craft. Once per Just cause we see them getting blown up to make our protagonists look better doesn't mean they don't serve their purpose in-universe.

>>14405846
>Too kawaii.
>He wants the rugged ones
You can't possibly turn a MiG-23 or an Su-17 into VFs, can you?
What is it with 3rd gens these days anyway? Saab Draken and F-104 Starfighter were 3rd gens after all

>>14405850
Su-chan might be but MiG-23? Because single engine?

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Personally I'm curious why the Delta Squadron's VF-31s have the Forward Swept wings while a b y squads use the VF-31A with Delta wings.

>>14405863
Variable geometry wings are easier for use when transforming. Not much of a change when going into Battroid mode.

>>14405868
Better maneuverability at lower speeds.

>>14405868

Increased low speed maneuverability so Delta squad can move around Walküre more easily.

>>14405872
>>14405876
at what cost though.

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>>14405872
>>14405876
I love it when Delta threads turn into Fighterfag threads.

>>14405846
>Also, all Frontier machines were obviously geared toward space use. Durandal was an exception but again, price. 31 seems to be superior atmo fighter.
Though I disagree, it is possible to make that argument for the VF-25 (Though it makes no sense for a universal multi-role fighter like the VF-25 to be designed for better space use).

But that doesn't work for the YF-29. It has forward swept wings and forward canards just like the VF-31. It was very clearly designed for atmospheric combat and tight, low speed turns in the same way the VF-31 was. It's low speed turning radius is a moot point at any rate since they both have 360° swiveling beam guns on their backs, which the YF-29 would win on a trade because of TWO MDE spec beams as opposed to one non-MDE beam and stronger PPB/ECA for tanking hits. And that's before you get to the point that the wing engines swivel for maximum maneuverability in the same way the SV-262's Lil Drakens do.

I'm not arguing whether the YF-29 is super expensive or not. I'm just saying that it is definitely the strongest valk right now overall and stupidly overpowered.

Personally, I think that Kawamori set the VF-31 slightly back in spec so that the inevitable YF-32 or whatever in the Delta movies can take that throne away without breaking a sweat.

>>14405887
>YF-32
>tfw the next one-off will be movie-exclusive again
I hate that move. Can we get an ACTUAL VF upgrade within the story, pls, Kawamori?

>>14405884
WHO THE HELL TO YOU THINK WE ARE?!
Waifu wars are for /a/. We talk manly hardware here.

>>14405882
Well, A is sexier for sure but Siegfried isn't bad looking..
>>14405887
I know that my english is bad but I've agreed with you on Durandal point.
Maybe like that - VF-25 was designed as multirole fighter, 31, especially Siegfried, is obviously designed more for in atmospheric use, as per needs of planetary colonies and Valkure - fly slower, fly lower, threats are to be met at best at maybe high planetary orbit.
Frontier stuff was supposed to work in deep space as well as in atmosphere, Delta planes seems to be biased toward air battles.
>>14405894
Well, Durandal was an adhoc design that incorporated all cool stuff from 25 and 27, so there was some base for it in the story. Kinda.
Let's hope it will be more consistent design than 29 thou.

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>>14405906
>We talk manly hardware here
On that note, we should discuss what type of anti-ship ordnance Siggy-chan should carry.

>>14405887

Its worth pointing out that the YF-29 was specifically designed for the conflict against the Vajra, where firepower was desperately needed.

Most battlefields don't have that problem. Windemere isn't winning because The NUN forces don't have strong enough guns, they are winning because of strategic-level mindpowers and outmaneuvering the UN forces.

Giving Delta Squad a bunch of 29s wouldn't solve that

>>14405894
"That move" only happened once. It might just be a thing they do now, or not. Who knows.

My point is that they aren't producing a new valk for mass production since the Kairos/Seigfried are the newest. It HAS to be a prototype, whether they bring it in for the final battle in the last two episodes or relegate it to the movie treatment or whatever.

I'm simply looking forward to it period.

>>14405894
VF numbers go up depending on the age of the Macross series.

Macross 25'th aniversary = VF-25
Macross 29'th birthday (Sayonara no Tsubasa) = YF-29.
Macross 30 = YF-30

ATM Macross is 33 years old, so we're going to get a YF-33, not 32.

>>14405847

> That argument ends there.

Not really, since you're ignoring the next line and Kawamori ignoring the possibility he could design a new unit that's less heroic looking. That said, it is my opinion only yes, and I'm fine with them in general because it's such a minor complaint.

>>14405846

> Those aren't great differences, considering how much thrust valkiries already have.

It's also not the only difference, and the barriers, gunpods and possibly other things are better on the 27 or 29 at the least.

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So I think we can all agree that out of all the Macross MCs especially after this episode, Hayate's the only one who seems like he'd actually be a decent catch for a lady right?

>>14405926
If he keeps this up until the end, maybe.
I'm not holding out for it because MakiReina is my justice.
HEY MAKIREINA, AYE!

do you all suspect Hayate will keep the VF-31F? Or will he go back to a rebuilt VF-31J?

>>14405938
Sounds like the time is ripe for a Makireina image dump, then.

>>14405963
Y'all bring the pics, I'll pump the audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiBYM6g8Tck

>>14405973
I would but I lack some.
>Macarena
Ayy, didn't see that coming. Truth be told it's catchy, even if it's a dead fad.

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>>14405976
The 90s were a different time. I loved it.

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>>14405549
I understand this scene.
>>14405523
I don't understand this scene, why the hell Hayate hugs Mirage? don't tell me because he don't see Mirage as woman, i mean if he see Mirage as man this hug is gay as fuck.

>>14405906
Agreed in general.

>>14405909
Talking hardware is fun. The VF-31 should at least be able to carry the 3 MRAAM bundle and air to air rockets the VF-25 seems to love so much. A bit disappointed the Super Seigfried seems to have less overall armor and engines than the Super Messiah though.

>>14405910
Cost is the only consideration at that point. The YF-29 does almost everything the VF-31 does, better, faster, and stronger. At the very least, it would hopefully prevent them from getting their asses kicked by Sv-262s every other week while still fulfilling the their atmospheric combat doctrine. Or maybe not since or MCs seem to need a little more training in general. The only things it lacks are the multi-drones, their associated recharger, and an improved Sound Booster on the Super Pack (though it does have a Fold Wave booster on its Super Pack).

All we've seen from the VF-31 are atmospheric dogfights, carrying fold waves from singers to the middle of the battlefield and dance of light shenanigans. For all the purposes Walkure was created for, the YF-29 is better. It's an elite dogfighter, not a mass-produced one and Walkure and Delta Squad are supposed to be elite. The only person who should still be in a VF-31 is Chuck, because the only other comparable fighter with a radome is the RVF-25 and the VF-31E's storable radome and forward swept wings makes it VASTLY superior.

The only reason you think it wouldn't work (even if they could afford it) is that the war is bigger than just Walkure, which it is. But why keep using VF-31s in that case anyway? What does it do better that makes it better suited towards fighting tons of converted NUNs ships?

>>14405915
>Your opinion is different so neither is right.
>Nuh uh, because of more opinions!
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you aren't right either.

>>14405985
We are siblings on the battlefield!
HE OR SHE WHO SHEDS BLOOD WITH ME HERE TODAY IS A BROTHER... OR A SISTER!

>>14405989
I'm more concerned about anti-ship ordnance. Irl, the Super Hornet can carry harpoons. The Falcon too. Wonder if Siegy can pack the same heat?

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how many of you acquired the VF-31 plamo?

>>14405985
He's thanking her for saving him. He'd just told her she was an idiot for risking her life too. This hug basicly dispels any possible "hard feelings". It's like

>You damn idiot, you could have burned up with me! But thank you so much for saving my life!

>>14405989
The only thing I can think of, is that they mention the arm guns on the VF-31 are used to disable just as often as kill, which we've seen alot.

>>14406001
does it transform?

>>14406001
I'll wait for a 31A.

>>14406005
Yes.

>>14405985
>Not hugging your bro when he risks his life to save yours
Are you gay ?

>>14406000
It's possible. Macross has more anti-ship weapons than just Reaction missiles and MDE warheads. As long as it has space underwing there should be no problem.

>>14406001
I've the tiny mechacolle one, not the 1/72 one, not as fun to build but nice to play around with

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>>14406005
yus

>http://zgmfxg.web.fc2.com/MACROSS/VF31J/1/VF31J1_1.html

>>14406009
I will hug him, not hugging like that though.

>>14406016
that looks really detailed... isn't that the chogokin? I'm pretty sure you don't build those, while you'd build a plamo

you'll niggaz will have to correct me If I'm wrong

>>14405992

Saying he can design a new fighter if he is of the opinion the others are too heroic isn't really an opinion. It's just an option. An option he's ignoring, possibly due to his own opinions, but an option and not an opinion all the same.

>>14406020
thats the plamo m8.

>>14405985

Because they have to throw crumbs out for the bloody shippers and waifu worshipers.

>>14406025
Well shit. That looks really nice then. I might have to get it

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>>14406001
I'm waiting to see how the DX chogokin one turns out. We'll probably see more of it at summer wonfes.

>>14406016
So, will the VF-31F model come with a Hayate pilot figure or with a Messer figure? or maybe both?

>>14406001
Waiting for the Messer version. It's the only headpiece that I like. I'm also a fan of more neutral colour schemes and grey, as boring as it is, appeals to me too.

Shame about the grim reaper, but whatever.

I've still got an Ozma VF-25 plamo to build that I bought in 2008.

>>14405392
Man i really wanna Delta go full Razgriz.

>>14406000

The Kairos has one hardpoint under each wing, but in space that hardpoint (which is on the arm shield) is used to attach the extra shield armor. There's no hardpoint under the outer wing, either according to the line art, the model kits, or the in-anime 3D model, unlike on the YF-30.

The Siegfried *does* have a hardpoint on the outer wing though (confirmed by line art, in-show 3D model, and all the model kits - though not by the DX toy prototypes), and could presumably carry heavy ordnance there even with Super parts.

Also, the VF-27 and YF-29 both look like they too have a single hardpoint under each wing, if I've interpreted the panel lines on the model kits correctly. They'd go just inboard of the outer engines on the VF-27, and near the edge of the thick, non-sliding section of the wing on the YF-29. The VF-27 might even have a matching set on top as well, kind of like the VF-0 or the Sv-51.

>>14406114

Based on the runner layout for the kit, which has the Hayate and Freyja figures smack dab in the middle of the B runner, I wouldn't be surprised if *all* the VF-31 kits came with a Hayate figure. And who knows, he may end up flying all of them at some point.

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>>14405650
A-10 VF fucking when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=335GdTqtyLs

>>14406001
Still Messer's colors look the best on VF-31. It might because it feels less as a toy and gives the feeling that it's fast.

>>14406226

You know that someone, somewhere, is going to take their VF-31J and the first thing they're going to do is paint it cream yellow with black stripes across the chest and down the wings, right?

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>>14405029
Remember this promo?

>>14406241
I'm pretty sure it would happen since Messer's VF is coming out in October
http://bandai-hobby.net/site/character_macrossd/mechacolle.html

>>14405156
Remember how Hayate spent his life traveling as an itinerant worker, basically a space Hobo?

He probably has dozens of girlfriends on dozens of planets.

>>14405938
I can't bring myself to like Reina for some reason.

>>14406250

That's the Mecha-Colle one, the tiny palmtop version for five dollars US.

Not the same as the 45-dollar 1/72 transformable kit that was released the other day, and for which we only know of two future release dates so far (Arad's next month, and the Super VF-31J in September).

>>14406291
You're probably just not into kuudere's.

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>>14405938
>>14406291
I hope/think Makina and Reina will get episodes dedicated to fleshing out their characters more. Their past was kind of expanded upon earlier but it didn't go anywhere yet.

I wonder if they go any gayer than combinig gangsigns. Might not be physically possible

have they revealed what mikumo is yet?

>>14406376

No, other than badass as fuck. When Bogue finally gets a clean shot at the Aether's stage, Mikumo shields Freyja with her body, and while she shield took the brunt of it, she does take a bruising. Then Freyja has a rune moment, and shows everyone on the whole planet why a happy, confident, singing Windermere beats an unhappy singing Windermere.

>>14405444

Yuck

Those outfits look fucking terrible

>>14405985
that's pretty normal when someone just save your life, weather it's male or female.

>>14406376
My bet is protoculture. There was a protoculture girl in macross 30 who had been altered to operate some ruins. My bet is Mikumo is something similiar and she was found by someone in Chaos, maybe Lady M

>>14406416
Mikumo's headwear is pretty cute though. If weird

>>14405566
No. They are foldbonded.

Sara does the same shit to Shinn in Zero.

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This was great, now it makes sense why were they saving so much budget in the earlier episodes. Everyone was cool, and this shot is beautiful.

The NUNS guy is a bastard. Goodbye, Chuck's sister. May you be Messer's jellyfish wife.

>>14406489
Same thing happened with TV Frontier and its last episode.

>>14406489

chuck's sister isn't dead.

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Subs are delayed because of a game.

>>14406545

Seems to be delayed more because they told one of the team to go get food. Which seems pretty reasonable to me.

>>14405413
Mine too. What the fuck guys.

>>14406564

What difference does it make? Are you seriously only buying it because the main character is currently piloting an exact replica of it?

>>14406574
>Are you seriously only buying it because the main character is currently piloting an exact replica of it?
Fucking DUH

>>14405415
RIP Anime Leffen
>Gone but not forgotten

>>14406599

Then you got what you deserve for buying something because marketing instead of because you like it really.

>>14406219
Why would they build a pile of shit that was obsolete in it's primary role 5mins after the first plane left the facotry.

Literally only good for dropping bombs on brown people with no AAA.

>>14405543
Grandma sends a knife.

>>14406681
>It's the pair She and Granpda used for the traditional Meltran Courtship Ritual
>They also send Arcade Machines

>>14405650
>Karla's endplane

GTFO, MercCommand or his questers.

>>14405342

>dat reused effect from Aquarion on the bottom

Hilarious

>>14406293
Keith's 1/72 SV-262 is also coming out this August.

I hope they announce the other three delta sqad units after the super vf-31j comes out, becase I decided to wait for Mirage and Messer's models.

>>14404973
My first train of thought when I saw that shot:
Welp, now I know how they're gonna animate this when it gets in SRW.

>>14405947
Can they still even salvage the VF-31J? I mean, Hayate took a really nasty hit with that explosion.

>>14406529
Unless we see her on the Ragna next week, I'm assuming otherwise

>>14405752
Its sorta funny, because Kelly Johnson specifically looked out for American fighter pilot's opinons on what they wanted in an interceptor.
What they wanted was SPEED, so he gave them SPEED.
It was decent as long as you didn't try to treat it as anything other than a missile with a man inside.

What happened to Makina making a new weapon pack for Hayate?

>>14406529

I'm guessing you also thought Messer was alive after episode 10.

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>>14406293

The delicious high end DX is coming in December.

>>14405510

Bullshit...Frontier had that damn chasing Sheryl's panties episode. Delta for the most part hasn't had a fan service episode.

>>14405787

I keep hearing it's 26 but I'm hoping it'll be 27 just to fit in with the whole numbers game of previous Macross tv shows.

36 for SDF:M, 49 for M7, and 25 MF.

3x3x3 would fit in quite nicely for this series.

>>14406998
I've always been curious, what's that hardpoint next to the gunpod on the Siegfried's backpack? Is it some kind of sensor package or speaker system to work with the Walkure?

>>14407083
I thought that was just the storage place for the gunpod.

>>14407023

I find it weird that people always refer to it as the panties episode, like that's the only thing that happens in the episode or even a major thing within it - when really it's a quick chase with a few gags that's done in a couple of minutes and has no actual fan service outside seeing Sheryl's panties on Ai. Which isn't fan service in reality. Even then, it's broken up by Ranka going off to work and Leon talking to someone for well over a minute.

The episode is far from the most packed or essential in the show, but does feature the introduction of Ai and Brera, the first singing of Aimo, and thus the first clue about Ranka's connection to the Vajra and has Sheryl making some overt moves in her relationship with Alto. It just seems weird that people keep trying to paint it as just the Sheryl's Panties episode. It'd be like referring to episode 9 of Delta as the Freyja's jealous episode. Yea, it's there and it's not the most packed episode or anything, but it's hardly the only thing in the episode.

So I finally got caught up with the rest of Macross recently and I'm ready to watch Delta

But before I do, I want to know how bad the QUALITY is. Is this something I should wait for the DVDs for?

>>14407156

haven't noticed anything too egregious.

>>14407148
>implying anyone complaining actually watched Frontier
You don't have to think while posting memes, anon, you just post them.

>>14407083
Energy transfer system for Walkure's multidrones. It was in the .79 episode

>>14407148
>like that's the only thing that happens in the episode or even a major thing within it - when really it's a quick chase with a few gags that's done in a couple of minutes and has no actual fan service outside seeing Sheryl's panties on Ai. Which isn't fan service in reality. Even then, it's broken up by Ranka going off to work and Leon talking to someone for well over a minute.
People who defend Frontier are worse than people who defend SEED.

>>14407156
>But before I do, I want to know how bad the QUALITY is
Its an incredibly subpar looking show regardless

>>14407226
>memes memes memes

>>14405787
They should just make a second 26-episode season.

What are the chances the Keith will start wearing a mask to cover the scarring he got from an explosion to the face and became a Char?

>>14405989
I'd argue that the 31s were good enough for Delta just purely due to what they had to deal with before the war.
>Var'd folks with no sense of tactics
Giving them the 29 before the war would have been just a waste of the machine's potential.

The 29 is a machine made to kill the Vajra and comes with all the firepower, protection and speed thy can give a VF. Does Delta need those when they were fighting normla Var victims?

>>14407423
Zero. We have a Char in Macross Extra already. Besides he was wearing his helmet. He's fine.

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>>14405412
>toned

>>14405404
>Those pants, abs, belts and vaginabones
JESUS, LORD HAVE MERCY

Has there ever been a Macross turn-based strategy game, like Advance Wars or Gihren's Ambition?

>>14406529
>>14406898
>>14406529
>She was knocked into the ocean oh no, how could a human survive this
>Ragna-seijin
If they can't breath underwater while unconscious, I don't know what the fuck the protoculture genetic devs were thinking.

>>14407774
>2 seeds
Why

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>Rudanjal Rom Mayan
>Mayan
Fuck

All the Zero references.
>Hayate trying to outrun a nuke

Birdman soon?

>>14408091
Is this the end of the VF-31J? Is Hayate going to switch to the 31F permanantly now? Or is he going to get a rebuilt 31J again?

>>14408091
Freyja and Hayate becoming Wind Singer and Dancer folding together in the end?

Did they kill off the fish waitress?

>>14408133
Personally i'd like to see a freyja growing old and wishing mirage and hayate a happy life together with her last breath end.

>>14408148
It looks like it.
Keith is landing towards Sigur Valens.

>>14408148
Shes a fish. The bitch can swim.

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Was anyone else expecting Chuck to get Kakizaki'd?

>>14408091
didn't you see the HUUUUUGE birdman in the episode that sigur valens turned into?

>>14408157
Nope, because he is the only only who has VF that is for Var syndrome detection. Arad has more chances to die than Chuck.

>>14408167

eh they can build new mechs if they have. Chuck's the big dopey sidekick guy who hasn't had fuck for screen time

>>14408157
His sister took his death for herself.

>>14408157
When i first saw hayate getting caught in the splosion, for a short period of time, I initially thought it actually was Chuck reflexively

These fucking tactics.

>Elysion needs time to charge their fold drive
>Drop off VFs with fold boosters to go back
>Charge enough for Aether alone to get back with Walkure
>Then charge Elysion's fold drive

>Come back in time to take a hit from Sigur Valens, fall into the water
>While underwater and relatively safe, charge the main cannon
>Charge complete, surface and transform, fire at Sigur Valens

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>>14408193
Ernest is almost as good as Jeffrey Wilder

>>14408193
I completely forgot that the arms are separate vessels that can detach.

>>14408205
Which is not unique to it. In fact it's been the case with every macross.

>>14408224
I am not a smart man.

>>14408231
Well, they CAN do is, but Elysion is pretty much the only one they show actually doing it. And only the arm ships. And mostly the Aether at that.

>>14408239
The Quarter did show it, somewhat.

Like when they put the flight deck on the back to hold the Macross Cannon with both arms.

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Does anyone else feel as though the Vf-25 and by extention the YF-29 looks better and just sexier than the VF-31?

The Vf-31 just looks like the fat cousin of the YF-29

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>>14408302
I'm not actually huge fan of YF-29, and the 25 just looks generic.

VF-31 is based on YF-30 anyway

>>14408302

19 fo life. Now that's a valk with some sex appeal

>>14408302
I like them all.

I'm a little biased for 31A though.

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>>14407838
As long as it's not flabby, it's toned to me, Montoya.

>>14408091
I wonder if there'll be other ZERO references

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>>14408350

>want to replay ace combat 5
>my PS3 Ive had since launch just died on me
>Game's still stuck in the drive

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>>14408360
<<<MESSER-KUN....!>>>
<<<Heh, I'm gonna miss that voice...>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35y6kw7L7Ms

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>>14408350
Well, Winderemere is a snowy planet, there's pic related

>>14408370
Always pictured THE HOLE IN THE MOUNTAINS to be like the Seven Pillars of Belka.

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>>14408379
Well, thousands died when the bomb went off on Winderemere.

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>>14408388
>yfw the Chaos/NUNS counterattack becomes equal to OPERATION BUNKER SHOT

>>14408365

just twist the knife

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>>14408401
<<<Cut the chatter, Deltas>>>

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>>14405730

These are the only two shots we've gotten so far.

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>>14408430
Man, that front view really sports F-104 features. Bravo Kawamori.

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>>14405170

>Rudanjal Rom Mayan

Fugggg

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>>14408204
Give him some time and two movies and we will see who is more hotblooded.
>>14408205
>>14408249

Also, two macross cannons.
One was enough to damage oh so awesome protoculture tech. Twice.
>>14408302
YF-24 is so far the sexiest in my book.
VF-31A is very nice looking but I kinda suspect Kawamori watched to much of Pak-Fa footage- that would explain girth of Siegried.
>>14408315
Chronos is great looking plane but would actually be better with different wings arrangement, forward swept wings were a thing for some time for 'hero' units.
It is better designed than Messiah thou and miles ahead of clusterfuck that is Durandal - high performance but a still a hackjob.
>>14408430
Only because of name correlation.

Chronos' battroid mod looks derpy as fuck with that missile bar/container just sticking out the top.

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>>14408453
>Mirage F1
I swear if I see another VF that looks like a fucking third-gen, and it's a FUCKING FROG PLANE LIKE THE F1, I'll start a petition for an F-8 VF.

Can someone explain to me why all their faces are such Quality lately? Like, it really stood out in this episode with the NUNS commander and the close-ups on Mirage and Hayate on the Elysion.

>>14408461
They spent the budget on ordnance and airframe repairs.

>>14408453
>Only because of name correlation.
I forgot the Italians had a license-built version of the Starfighter.

>>14408461
They used on the budget - the focus went on mecha part.

>>14408468
>on the budget

*all the budget

>>14408302
While I cannot doubt my love for the VF25S armored pack, I''d have to give it up the VF31. Despite the weirdness that comes with the weapon container, the battroid of the YF 30 lineage comes out ahead with the way the cockpit actually folds into the torso while the YF 24 family's cockpit goes into a spot where you hope no lucky shot will hit. In fighter mode I prefer the nose proportions of the YF30's because the YF24's slender nose makes it seem almost excessively long.

That said, both lineages kind of annoy me on how they store their wings in battroid. the YF 30 is a mass of kibble and the Super YF 29 is the backpack equivalent of a mullet.

The compactness wing storage on older models is something I miss.

>>14408461
NUNS commander and Mirage and Hayate on the Elysion weren't the money shots of this episode.

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sasuga gg

>>14406258
A girl in every port!

>>14406001
My brother is in Akiba right now on vacation, I specifically asked him to get me a VF-171 or a VF-25F from Frontier because none of Macross Delta's variable fighters appeal to me in the slightest.

Now, if they sold big 18" models of Macross Elysion, Uragas, or Guantanomos, that'd be a different story.

>>14406529
She becomes a Jellyfish like all Ragnans.

>>14405601
Many seacats died.

>>14408037
It was boiling water. So boiling hot that the Protoculture ruins went from being hundreds of feet below sea level to standing on what used to be the ocean floor, towering hundreds of feet into the air, surrounded by plains of coral.

She is dead. Her body was cooked, boiled, and probably torn to pieces by the explosive pressure.

The bigger question is why the fuck weren't they already gone before this battle?

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I wish they'd show the delta wing variant more.

>>14408511
>The bigger question is why the fuck weren't they already gone before this battle?
Probably because they realised that Ragna is the next target like on the day NUNS HQ guy came in and said he was gonna bomb the ruins.

At the moment, they started evacuating already, and then Elysion went to attack hopefully to delay or strike them before they can do their shit, and Gramia ordered an attack on Ragna at the moment he sensed Elysion coming in.

There's just not enough time to evacuate them from the time they realised they are aiming for Ragna and the time the Winderemereans attacked.

>>14408497
Chastity stops at Ushant, as they used to say.

>>14408518
There were at least 30 minutes from when the episode started to when the reaction bomb went off. And they had a whole day of forewarning from Chaos.

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>>14408037
>If they can't breath underwater while unconscious

Hey, Retard.

WATER HITS HARD. She didn't fall over board she got hit in the tits by a goddamn tidal wave. If the impact didn't do her in then any debris would have too

>>14408523
Civilians were being civilians and complaining about being evacuated.

>>14408523
>And they had a whole day of forewarning from Chaos.
Its a planet worth of people, and there is only so much roads into the Island, there were traffic jams and shit.

Unless you're Japan(which is used to getting disasters), evacuating a country worth of people from their homes takes a while.

>>14408528
>>14408511
I'm gonna laugh at you if she turns out to be fine. And I'll laugh even harder when you rage at the lack of realism of the above

I know he's still alive, but I can hope Hayate did Keith in at least.

>>14408659
>RUNE OFF!
And then Keith was a human.

Im getting a ferling that Var is more than just an affliction that rages you out or mind controls. There is clearly some positive effect couples with fold receptors and waves

>>14408688
It's pretty obvious after this episode.
Wanna bet that Var was another Protoculture project at mimicking Vajra?
Cause in eighter of versions, it is fold network connecting all subjects, thou windermere's has a central server in Heinz form.

Is Axia supposed to be from both Messer and Kaname's perspectives?

>>14408496
Oh shit whaddup

>>14408659
>Keith injures his rune during crash landing
>His rune droops weakly and can no longer stand
>Windermere girls laugh at him
>He has to snip off his impotent rune and settle with Kaname

>>14406529
She's grilled cuttlefish now, anon. Mikumo and Freyja are going to have her for dinner with a tangy dipping sauce made from Chuck's tears.

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>>14408688
Its probably what causes the Winderemeres to have fold sensitivity in the first place, maybe an attempt to copy the Vajra virus for the fold network thing.
The seidznole or whatever being made from Winderemerean apple and water from the ruins seem to point to the fact that its probably intended for Winderemereans only and doesn't work like its supposed to outside of a Winderemerean.

>>14409051
I suspect that it might have more to do with the songs rather than Var being distinctly for Windermeres.

If the Winderemere song is basically a propaganda song focus around Winderemere superiority and submitting to their authority then Var syndrome might be causing Cognitive Dissonance in those whose beliefs run counter to the Winderemere's objectives. For those whom align with the song it would act as a Morale booster.

The most effective Walküre songs tend to be focused around freedom and it might be the freedom fold message that is countering the Cognitive Dissonance.