/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #958

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Since I couldn't post it at the appropriate time last thread.

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As I was saying last thread, I'd post the "Gespenst Haken is basically just using one of Haken's moves from EF" pic again.

>No oppai mousepad as a preorder bonus for MD

>>14334149
How come even with the "But they have to be show-accurate" excuse the OG team manages to be more accurate to the original

>>14334153
Not being rushed as fuck helps.

>>14334150
I'm still using my mousepad from Record of Agarest War, why would I need another?

Will the MD final boss be Zui Gadin? Or the Gau la Furia

both seem pretty lame

>>14334122
Except he just picked up the Soulgain just before OG2 started and like just before he got his shit handed to him by Beowulf. He actually just simply got good by the power of Gary Stu.

Axel's schtick is seriously he is just a natural genius, I seem to recall the guy even had Newtype as a skill in Advance. It's always been a thing in the series that he's just fucking good at everything without trying.

>>14334158
Being competent helps too.

>>14334164
You do realize every single OG boss to date has been a completely original new unit right?

They could easily have the Alles Geist suddenly combine with the Zui Gadin, assimilate the moon and turn into Not Devil Gundam Moon Colony Zui Gadin for all we know.

Two things I've learned in the last thread:

1. If that list on the survey is right, there are a total of 81 SRW game releases. V was not listed, so make that 82 SRW releases total. Remakes, re-releases and such is another matter.

2. /m/ lewd stuff is equal-opportunity.

>>14334164
Fury's Dragon God.

So what all was in those 25th anniversary scans in the last thread?

>>14334176
The way Shana talked about totally-not-Granteed in the into makes me think that'll be the Dragon Jet.

The RaiOh has the LIOH system because Tomine put it in there along with the Berserk System just in case Jinrai was captured and used against him.

Bian rejected the idea of making RaiOh the DGG3 because he didn't agree with some of the things Tomine was doing with it, so Tomine got pissed off and by 2ndOG finished it and programmed it to kill DGG1 and 2.

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>>14334169
There are actual geniuses in OG and none of them are Axel though.

>>14334169
>I seem to recall the guy even had Newtype as a skill in Advance

This smells like bullshit

>>14334178
A bunch of different fan polls like "What was your first SRW", "What's your favorite attack animation", etc

>>14334187
Actually he did. Lamia had cybernetic newtype. Only as reals though.

>>14334179
intro*
Goddamn keyboard.

>>14334178
Basically just the PV stuff. It is interesting to note that the Awakened Unit 1 stuff had no distinctions of being a special unit; with the attack being just listed as Melee too.

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>>14334191

>>14334187
In the GBA version? Yeah he did. He lost it for AP.
Lamia had Cyber Newtype.

>>14334164
>Will the MD final boss be Zui Gadin? Or the Gau la Furia

Why would they favor J over one of the other series in MD?

>>14334172
>You do realize every single OG boss to date has been a completely original new unit right?

Well, except Neo Granzon.

>>14334174
>Remakes, re-releases and such is another matter.

You did remember to take off the multiple re releases and remakes on that list when saying this, right? Because 82 releases not counting those seems too high.

>>14334180
And what about Alpha 3?

>>14334187
It's true.

>>14334194
You can go download the rom right now if you feel like it

Remainder that after Kenshiro and Bruce Lee we'll get a Jackie Chan OG soon.

>>14334169
If Axel is so good, why is he only Friendship Lvl 1?

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>>14334194
Axel (I think he was a Newtype for BOTH the Real and Super though unlike what that anon said)

>>14334196
>Why would they favor J over one of the other series in MD?


Disregarding the constant "Touya is the main character of MD," you mean.

>>14334196
Dunno don't care.

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>>14334203
Lamia.

The proof is, as they say, in the pudding.

60 chapters of J and GC, how the fuck will they pull this off if there are no surprises since the game guide is releasing the same day as the game?

>>14334208
>posts a strategy guide
>calls it pudding

>>14334210
>if there are no surprises

That's a very substantial "if".

>>14334212
>as they say

>>14334210
I guess we'll find out!

>>14334210
>60 chapters

Don't forget routesplits and what not.

But I have faith.

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>>14334199
This is all he has starting out with Ashsaber

>>14334218
He gets the skill at Level 4 >>14334203

Yo mattman, since you're posting SRW guides, do you happen to have MX/MXP's somewhere you could upload? Mostly just trying to see when some characters get certain newtype levels, figured I'd ask for the book rather than specific characters.

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are you guys ready for yet another HTB CANNON SPAM THE GAME?

>>14334210
Neo New Neue DC
Those leftover Guest faggots from DP
Endlich Geist, and with it the rise of the Zukunft
or failing that, just more Einst/Jetzt shit
whatever EF shit follows Harken in

>>14334210
They've flat out said that things are happening with Cybuster and Compatible Kaiser, but we'll have to play the game to find out. Plus there's potentially stuff that they never mentioned at all.

We'll find out by the end of the month.

>>14334225
I'm ready to see a absolutely fucked SRX in the epilogue.

>>14334225
Are you ready for more Kirin?

>>14334227
>Compatible Kaiser

It's going to be +100 Armor and +5 Mobility

>>14334225
HTB spam wasn't even that good in OG2nd, too costly and didn't even clear maps like it did back in @. Granzon/Exexexexexbein were the true MAP spammers of the game.

Kyosuke Arriere Haken triple stake combo.

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>>14334239

>>14334225
Or Ibis spams the MAP

>>14334218
He doesn't start out with it, you have to level him up a bit before he learns the Newtype skill but it is definitely there.

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>>14334243

>>14334237
Well yeah, HTB+Soul doesn't one-shot everything in the game anymore.

Nuking final bosses to death in a single turn however will never get old. Or taking huge chunks out of normal bosses without even using any SP Drinks.

By the way, whoever it is that decided to make consumable parts once-per-stage instead of once and it's gone, I want to give them a high five.

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>mfw the Yamato becomes the new nadesico

>>14334243
The animated Shana really got me going in many places.

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>>14334247

>>14334225
no dude, it will be GRANTEED RAPETRAIN ORGONE CLOUD
>>14334149
wat if.... FORCED EVASION somehow gets in MD?

>>14334243
In picture 5 you can see Soul Saber and G Compatible Kaiser arriving to help Touya.

>>14334149
I half expect Haken's Gespenst to have a motion feedback system like Soulgain.

Terada here:
-Database hinted by the Fury Emperor, he pilots the transformed Gau La Furia after you defeat Zui Gadin
-Laodiocea comes with another White Star which stays on orbit and will be retrieved by Balmar in the 1st part of the last game
-Soulless Ingram piloting Astranagant, one of the factor Cobray needs
-Endlich's goal is to bring Beowulf into this universe, next game stuff
-Dark Brain re-appears with his own minions this time
-GS remnants have the 2 Tronium pieces. Lorenzo leads them and dies here
-Only Masaki and the COTE mains could travel from La Gias due to weak magic, we fight the Golem Leader who is stuck between crossgates.

>>14334254
>G
>that early

Time for hard nerf.

>>14334237
>HTB spam wasn't even that good in OG2nd

I could still use it like 6 times in a turn

>>14334243
I can see it already
>Touya's normal schoolife ended when a giant mech came from the moon and crashed on his classroom
>powerpuff girls sucked his cock to get in and pop the damn thing
>space interdimensional cowboy also suddenly appeared and all common sense went straight out of the window
and that is just stage 1

>>14334257
Was Daizengar nerfed at all in 2nd OG? they give it to you pretty early in the game

>>14334223
You want me to post all the pages one by one, or upload them somewhere?

>>14334261
The robot doesn't crash. It calmly arrives to Touya's MANSION. Yes, that's Touya's house not the school.

>>14334227
>things are happening with Cybuster and Compatible Kaiser
Is it time for this? Because I love these themes, catchy as hell.

https://youtu.be/S3MCccUNEt8
https://youtu.be/Y2blmoHRWoM

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This was posted a few topics back, and I just saw it a few minutes ago.

The yellow circled object in the second panel is an anima relic / vessel of anima used by ES units in Xenosaga.

>>14334252
SRW has the opposite of forced evasion already, dodge decay

>>14334256
>-Endlich's goal is to bring Beowulf into this universe, next game stuff

People seem to keep forgetting that the Inspectors anime is canon. Do you know what we did at the end of Inspectors?

WE KILLED BEOWULF. IT'S OVER. THERE IS NO BEOWULF TO BRING INTO THIS WORLD.

>>14334265
Not him, but just upload it somewhere.

It's more convenient for everybody.

So what happened with the /v/ sticky? What came out of it? Did Hiro say anything or he's still pretending he has a poor grasp of english?

>>14334266
>Touya's MANSION. Yes, that's Touya's house not the school.
bullshit
bet the rest remains true anyways

>>14334264
Not really. Getting the kill requirement for the secret weapons is hilariously easy.

QUICK

POST YOUR IDEA FOR AN SRW OG ROBOT

HARD MODE, IT HAS TO BE A GESPENST GRUNGUST OR HUCKEBEIN VARIANT

>>14334266
I think it's just a boarding school.

>>14334275
Seriously last thing we need is more fucking image spams in this general, just rar that shit up and throw it up like any sane person would.

>>14334274
Its not fully canon. Bits and pieces like the Exbein and the grunts the Inspectors are but it doesn't take priority over OGs' OG2.

>>14334265
If you can upload them that'd be great, unless you want to post the stat sheet of every single character with Newtype. Trying to see when I can expect to use certain attacks like the Qubeley's Funnel combo and ZZ's Hi-Mega Particle Beam Annihilator Whatever, in the middle of switching pilots around and trying to figure out if dropping money into the Qubeley's is worth it or if I should just slap Puru 2 into the Zeta and bench the Qubeleys because they'll be useless by the time I'm hitting Newtype level 5.

>>14334287
Then why did 2nd OG's trailer specifically show the part from the anime where Beowulf fricking died?

>>14334280
how about a
VARIANT THAT COMBINES A GESPENST WITH GRUNGUST AND HUCKEBEIN PARTS

What'll be the Riot Buster of MD? Ie, the best attack delivery coming from the VA among all other characters?

>>14334249
> Yamato Nadesico

>>14334287
FDX novel made the Gravillion canon to the games too

expect it to appear in this game

>>14334283
>>14334278

No, it literally says it's his house on the scans dude. Also Katia knows who he is and they were looking for him.

>>14334275
>>14334290
https://mega.nz/#!FxwSCZQQ!yEEI5MKQd8HQGxqYMkeBryaxkDcEZlKIshVpso1JXSg

Don't use the Qubeleys, they're crud. Best UC units are the Nu, the Full Armor Hyaku Shiki Kai (which is a separate unit from the Hyaku Shiki), ZZ, Zeta, and the Dijeh SE-R.

>>14334287
Nothing about it is canon. Exbeins, Soulgain's arm are both explained in 2ndOG (and Gaiden because that's where Exbein first was mentioned)

>>14334291
Its the last animated work. They did the same with OGs, including Divine Wars footage, plus 2nd OG had the awesome Bluray bundle.
The games have a seperate canon from the anime stuff.

what the fuck happened that caused a new thread to be made and gone through in the span of 9 hours?

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best girl

>>14334243
The intro text here reads:

1) 日本で暮らす高校生トーヤ・シウン。ある日、彼は自分に語りかけてくる謎の少女の夢を見る……。

2) 夢から醒めて登校したトーヤは、同級生のアキミ・アカツキと会う。

3) アキミはモガミ重工で開発されている人型機動兵器・ソウルセイバーのテストパイロットであり、双子の姉であるアケミとともに模擬戦を行うことになる。

4) アキミと別れ、帰宅したトーヤ。そんな彼の前に、突如として謎の機動兵器・グランティードと、同機に乗るカティアとメルアという少女が現れる。 さらに、彼女らを追うように機動兵器群が出現。現れた機動兵器群は”フューリー”という組織に所属しており、グランティードを奪還すべく攻撃を仕掛けてきた。 トーヤは事情がわからぬまま、それでも生き延びるためにグランティードに乗り込む。

5) 機動兵器群と戦闘中、アキミが操るソウルセイバーFFと、Gコンパチブルカイザーが登場。彼らは親友のトーヤと街を守るため、敵と戦う決意を固めるのだった!

>>14334317
Shitposting.

>>14334317
Please don't ask.

>>14334196
>You did remember to take off the multiple re releases and remakes on that list when saying this, right? Because 82 releases not counting those seems too high.

Everything included. So when in 5 or so years they say the 30th anniversary special will be the 100th SRW, its gonna be the 100th RELEASE, but not the 100th game.

Or 35th anniversary. Banpresto might slow down a bit.

>>14334320
Google translate because I'm a lazy fuck and you'll get the idea anyway:

1) a high school student living in Japan Toya-purple clouds. One day, he is the girl of mystery that speaks to their dream ....

2) Toya, which went to school to wake up from the dream, meet with classmate of Akimi-Akatsuki.

3) Akimi is a test pilot of the humanoid mobile weapons Soul Saber being developed in Mogami Heavy Industries, will be performed a mock battle with Akemi is a sister of the twins.

4) Akimi and farewell, Toya came home. Such his before, and mobile weapons Grand tea de mystery and suddenly, appears girl named Katya and Merua ride in aircraft. In addition, mobile weapons group appearance so as to follow the they. Appeared mobile weapons group is belong to the organization called "Fury", it has been attacked in order to recapture the Gran tea do. Toya remains, not knowing the circumstances, get into the Grand tea do in order to survive still.

5) during the battle and the mobile weapons group, and Seoul Saber FF that Akimi is manipulate, it appeared G compatible Kaiser. They are to protect the Toya and the city of a close friend, was to strengthen the resolve to fight the enemy!

>>14334271
The yellow in the third panel almost looks like Thrudgelmir bits.

>>14334225
>Banpreios happens eventually
>HTB Cannon MAP becomes a thing

>>14334271
and yellow circle in the 3rd pic is the Angelg's bow

>>14334301
It's the same guy wrote The Inspector, 2nd OG and on games, and the FDX stories.
Things are all connected in some way.

>>14334280
A Grungust with huckie gravity tech, so an actual barrier plus some sort of black hole chest blaster.

...also G-Impact Boost Knuckles.

>>14334317
SHIRTLESS

>>14334326
> One day, he is the girl of mystery

Touya confirmed for being Shana-Mia in drag.

>>14334321
>>14334323
so no good news?

>>14334327
That's Angelg's bow.

>>14334330
I'd say I miss that from @1's SRX, but I honestly don't remember needing it too much.

>>14334343
I think the only time I ever used it was on the STMC stages
It wasn't that impressive since I never spent any money on it

Ready to fight me again /m/?

>>14334352
Who are you?

>>14334352
But Euzeth, you died last game.

>>14334334
Barriers in OG that aren't an E-Field are pretty pointless, since they're nullification barriers and not reduction.

>>14334003
>implying they'd give him anything other than a Gespenst
Haken, like Kai, is a Gespenst man, and has been since the beginning.

Would you give Kai a non-Gespenst unit, you filthy heretic?

>>14334149
If it's true that the attack is just called "Night Fowl," that puts a bit of a damper on the idea that his entire MD moveset will be based on his EF attacks. Half his moves, including both of his notable melee attacks, are nothing but Night Fowl as well.

>>14334359
They were pointless on huckies since they didn't have the armor to negate anything. On a Grungust post-OGG it can tank enough to actually make it count.

Or they can just give it Granzon's barrier, either/or.

>>14334149
Mattman posts as ShinyFeraligatr in gamefaqs

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Which Moon would you Dwellers?

>>14334367
All it does on Ganduro is make it run out of EN even faster.

TOKIHANATE
HAGANE NO YAIBA

>>14334362
>Haken, like Kai, is a Gespenst man,

You missed my point entirely. Haken is the MC of EF, why would they give side characters from the same series a much more technologically impressive mech? Not only that but a custom mech made just for this game and just for them? In the end it would completely overshadow Haken himself.

>>14334372
Katia > Festenia > Melua, for me.

But there are no wrong choices for those three.

>>14334248
>By the way, whoever it is that decided to make consumable parts once-per-stage instead of once and it's gone, I want to give them a high five.
That would be Neo's dev team. Also the same people responsible for OE.

They really have a knack for coming up with great ideas. Unfortunately, they also have a knack for burying those good ideas under a bunch of garbage.

>>14334369
We've known this for quite some time.

>>14334373
They really should give it ammo attacks it can counter with for ranges longer than 3 that aren't shit.

>>14334372
Melua or Katina, Tenia a meh

>>14334372
Tenia

>>14334373
Because the E Field (and G-Territory) cost way too damn much. G Wall is dirt cheap, and the Distortion/Warp Field is still cheaper than the first two.

>>14334239
>>14334362
It says Night Fowl right here.

>>14334386
it has a VLS in the 3d fighting game

Sladgelmir also gets Eye Solid Lasers

>>14334372
Festinia and Melua are great.
Katia is as noticeable as GC.

>>14334268
Unlikely. Chances are, Cybuster (and maybe Valsione/Granzon) will pop out of La Gias some time late in MD, and Cybuster will be nerfed due to lack of spirit powers.

The proper conclusion to MK is a huge contender for the next game's plot, though. Expect Kadum Hakham to show up, and he'll bring the spirits back with him.

>>14334318
a waifu for microns

>>14334387
Agreed.

>>14334393
G Wall only blocks up to 800, and doesn't reduce damage over that much, for 5 EN. The Huckebeins aren't supposed to be taking hits in the first place.
G Territory blocks up to 1800, but costs 15 EN and the only unit that has it normally can't dodge for shit and is already an EN whore so that's a LOT of EN getting used every time it gets hit.
TK Field nullifies up to 1800 damage (2250 for Exexbein) based on the pilot's TK level, for 5 EN.
E-Field reduces damage by 1500 for 15 EN. There's no part to give a unit this one though.
Warp Field reduces damage by 50% for 10 EN which is fucking absurd, but it's Granzon so yeah.

>>14334395
Well, it has missiles in OGII... Armor Breakers, I think? Which might be what that was trying to replicate.

Except those have 2 shots and really piss power, so it's not any useful. Seriously though, Ganduro is fucking enormous, you mean to tell me there's not room to throw a Split Missile launcher or something in there?

>>14334326
DIE, GRAN TEA DO

>>14334412
Doesn't help that all the Grungusts got their missile launchers back in OG.

>>14334410
I know J was the big SEED game, but did the final boss really need to be a giant Aegis*?

*that wasn't Regenerate.

>>14334410
Mitsuru's designs are so hit or miss.
Well, more miss than hit, but still.

>>14334377
The Gespenst Haken is pretty technologically advanced. Stop thinking of it in terms of the shitty Gespenst models from OG1, and remember that it's an advanced, ace-spec unit from the same people that made Soulgain.

Shadow Mirror engineering is some serious shit, anon.

>>14334429
I thought the Shadow Mirrors stole the Soulgain

>>14334429
Their MP Gespensts were pretty baller.

Also Harken gets to benefit from all the advances the Halloween Plan introduced.

>>14334410
>only one dragon head
but the one in the PV shows like, 4

>>14334421
looks more like purple valzacard to me

>>14334431
Fights with swords of that size must be a pain if both units have them.

>>14334421
>Doesn't help that all the Grungusts got their missile launchers back in OG.

Even the ones that didn't have one of them in the first place.

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>>14334436
Sure, but the point is that their universe had tech years ahead of the main OGverse.

This is a unit combining the advantages of SMverse tech, and the advancements in Gespenst technology that the OGverse has made over the last few games.

>>14334443
See >>14334431.

> looks more like purple valzacard to me
Same designer, isn't it? Or is that only for the Raftclans?

>>14334443
You mean Valzacard looks like a blue Zui Gadin, since the latter came out first.

Which means you're saying Valzacard is a big blue Aegis...?

>>14334443
>but the one in the PV shows like, 4
They're normally kept inside the wings.

>>14334443
Five, actually. One is on the chest, and the other four aren't visible in that picture because they're folded behind its back.

>>14334443
Doesn't have them deployed.

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This has to be the laziest excuse of a stage ever.

>The Sol Masters + Dinogeist
>Kill all of them
>The Sol Masters regenerate for round 2
>No mooks to gain will from and all of the bosses have HP Regen
>No SP Restore events even though the last stage that pulled this did.

>>14334447
the leg pods were always there for all Grungusts

>>14334448
The only time we've straight up gotten a previous OG final boss as a final boss was Neo Granzon.

Even Daddy Einst was a new, OG-only final form.

>>14334448
He won't be the final boss.
It'll be another original design like in all the other OGs except OGG.

>>14334454
All 3 have the same designer, who also designed Exblau.
And all 00 gundams except Setsuna's

>>14334448
Got any scans of the second form handy?

>>14334448
Final bosses in OG games have always been something new, except for Neo Granzon. I'd be willing to buy the rumor that the Gau-La Furia transforms, otherwise it'll be a mashup of at least two other final bosses.

>>14334429
>Stop thinking of it in terms of the shitty Gespenst models from OG1, and remember that it's an advanced, ace-spec unit from the same people that made Soulgain.

Again, completely missing my point here.

>why would they give side characters from the same series a much more technologically impressive mech? Not only that but a custom mech made just for this game and just for them? In the end it would completely overshadow Haken himself.

I don't really care how technologically advanced that Gespenst is, a DGG's gonna be a lot cooler than anything the Phantom is gonna put out, and for them to have no. 4 ready to go conveniently custom made for two people that don't exist in this world would be nonsensical.

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>>14334410
Whats that thing on the right

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>>14334467
it actually is weaker when transformed...

>>14334463
I mean in the sense that some Grungusts had never shown the ability to fire missiles until very recently. 0, 2 (outside of the fighter mode), and 3 in particular, I dunno if 4/F had missiles on the original Grungust although it did on the transformations.

>>14334472
Granteed Dracodeus.

>>14334473
No colored-in decent size lineart for form 2? Screw you too BP.

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>>14334467
No from the J artbooks but

Also, Yanase Takayuki did the designs for Alm Arcus, Valhawk and Valguard, and has apparently been doing cut-in work for OG ever since OGs.

>>14334473
Form 2 is nightmare fuel.

>>14334481
MAXIMUM OVERFUNNEL

>>14334476
Yes, I am aware of that, having played the fool game. Does look freaky enough to be a final boss though.

And wow, the (leg?) bits on the bottom corners really look like Aegis' MA mode.

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>>14334472

>>14334471
Oh, well of course they're not going to get an actual DGG. That would just be silly.

But if someone told me "OGMD will give Kaguya a mecha based on various bits of DGG tech," I would have no problem with that. It fits thematically with her not-Sanger thing, and it's not like she'll overshadow Haken considering how flashy his Gespenst is.

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If Haken doesn't have Fortune or Lucky to compensate for the loss of his cards I riot

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Has she ever not looked like total shit in these games?

>>14334494
Haken will shit out money harder than Z3's Crowe and Garrod combined.

MISTER SAMURAI

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And just because

>>14334431
>YFW you realize Granteed's chestpiece is Dracodeus' tail tip

>>14334488
At most I expect her to get a custom Type-3 Grungust with her special separating sword made out of spare parts somehow. Which would be neat. Also I expect them to do something with Jyaki-ON because that's kind of both thematic and important to her.

>>14334494
Well we haven't seen all of Phantom's attacks. Maybe the card thing is farther down the line?

>>14334494
>That skinny torso

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And done

>>14334500
As cool as Valzacard is, they better let us play with Valguard for more than a handful of stages. That was one of my favorite things out of W.

>>14334500
The things I'd do to those legs.

>>14334501
>Aaaand the saucer is also the tail

>>14334510
They better give Valzacard more than three attacks, too.

>>14334510
Hm? You get Valguard for most of the later half of the game. Valzacard is only for like 6 stages.

>>14334508
It's like that because of its MA mode.

So I've heard that Impact has some issues that make it not fun. The only specific I've heard though is that Gespenst are annoying and spawn in swarms. Anything else, or is the person who told me that talking out there ass? I want to buy all of the PS2 SRW games.

>>14334501
Holy shit I just noticed that. That's actually a really impressive transformation, I could have sworn they cheated it.

>>14334518
Maybe it won't get so busted up before transforming this time.
Or they'll fix it later like they finally did with Dygenguar's weapons.

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>>14334510
Speaking of Valguard

>>14334519
I think it's exactly 7 stages, from 49 to 55

>>14334518

we probably wont have valzacard for very long considering how long we did in W and how OP he is mechanically and from a plot perspective

>>14334410
So Granteed is just the Royal version of a Raftclantz.
Is there anyone else who likes Granteed Draco?

>>14334519
In W, where the Valstork Family is a central part of the plot, yes.

In OG? I would not put it past them to just hold off on it for most of the game, or hell, skip it and go straight to the final form.

>>14334524
Gespensts are lategame enemies and more emblemic of the fact that the Einst are a bunch of fuckers. (although I've heard Impact is slightly better than C2 about that.)


Impact itself is just a problem game in general though.

>>14334343
Man HTB spam was the only thing that got me through the last ten stages or so of @. Fuck the STMC, I pulled several units off the bench (Wing Zero and ZZ for sure, can't remember others) off the bench just to max out MAP attacks and spam them for the last maps. Endgame was basically "OHKO everything or die on enemy phase" for me as a result of benching every super not named Dancouga, SRX, and Gunbuster, but otoh I either one-turned or two-turned most of the final stages.

>>14334537
Why would they skip it?

>>14334536
>So Granteed is just the Royal version of a Raftclantz.
Uh not really.
Rafts are knight units themselves.
The Zui Gadin is a uuuh
it has a special designation but I forgot what it was, definitely higher hierarchy than knight though

>>14334532
Those puppy eyes make him adorable, not threatening

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>>14334495

>>14334541
MAP attacks really aren't that effective on STMC since they all have HP Regen L. You're better off focus firing down a couple a turn unless you're SURE you can nuke a large crowd in a single turn.

The final stage can be solved in exactly three HTB shots though, which is pretty hilarious.

>>14334524
The memory card load times, of all things, are abominable.

Gameplay-wise it's not the worst thing ever unless you are both a massive RR dodgefag and too poor to dump cash into everything, or if you can restrain your autism and not kill yourself going after the SR point equivalents.

Impact has the worst fleeing bosses and you will hate yourself for even making the effort, successful or not.

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>>14334546

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>>14334546
Until you realize how huge he is.

>>14334545
Imperator machine or something? Doesn't explain why whatshisnuts was hijacking it, though.

>>14334542
Because these games hate fun.

>>14334534

I hope they use W time skip to kill some people off and thin out this bloated as fuck cast

>>14334561
Come back and complain again when you can't deploy 2/3rds of the roster.

>>14334498
20 SP cost Luck or Bless, calling it now.

>>14334501
So I just realized that Granteed being able to generate a chest drill doesn't come out of nowhere: the drill is Dracodeus's tail spike.

>>14334561
It's not that bloated.


They're even slowly phasing out Kyosuke and the older crew from the spotlight. It seems Joshua is the big guy now.

>>14334558
These sizes are all fucked up, I'm pretty sure Soulgain is about twice as tall as the Alt

>>14334498
Once I got the Gold Emblem on my first run of Saisei I just gave it to Crow and let him get every single boss kill and as many MAP kills as possible.
By the end I had enough cash to get my entire final stage deployment fully upgraded except for my battleships and support units that aren't the Shuttle.

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>>14334431
What a monstrous clusterfuck

>>14334582
What do you mean? The Soulgain and Angelg are both twice as big as the Alt in that image.

>>14334584
I like him. I wish there was a model of him.

>>14334582
But it is in that picture?

>>14334582
The sizes are accurate as far as I can tell.

Soulgain isn't quite double Alt's height. The Riese is a little over 23m, while Soulgain is 40.

>>14334210
The PB has been announced already?

>>14334584
They had better keep the beam rifle DK animation

>>14334532
It took me years to realize the chest was the valhawk

>>14334591
Robot lineart is so fucking cool.

>>14334551
Concentrated Soul/Valor MAP spam from multiple units is enough to kill STMC, which is exactly what my plans became for the end of the game. You get more than enough money by that point (Especially with Luck usage), so you can generally afford to max at least two weapons each stage. Wing Zero and ZZ can each get MAPs that do ~25000 with Soul boosts, so it's not too hard to wipe out entire groups of the STMC.

>>14334600
The plane mode DK in particular. If I don't see Valhawk kicking a motherfucker in the face before blasting it away with the beam rifle, I will be very disappointed.

>MD big surprise is Kai Haken and Gilliam gespensts form in to gespenst srx

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>>14334597
Riese is also a little bigger than the basic Alt though, right?

>>14334606
>so you can generally afford to max at least two weapons each stage
Huh? That costs like 500-600k, you definitely don't get that much per stage even by the end.

>>14334592
>>14334595
>>14334597
Im fucking stupid I was looking at the Falken and thought it was Soulgain due to the image resolution

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>>14334609
Arm Arcus is way skinnier than I thought. I like its sprites' proportions better.

>>14334611
Slightly, but it's actually not a whole lot taller.

I think the numbers were something like
>Alt: 22.2
>Riese: 23.8

>Endless Frontier related plot and enemies
>GC Plot
>J
>Maybe a little bit of Touma's plot
>Maybe a new event with Josh
>Maybe a new Kaiser event

Seems about right. There's more than enough content for a full game. I doubt there'll be more.

>>14334616
If it was a fatty, it wouldn't make a very good bow.

I wonder if we'll get it as a separate playable unit, maybe if they give Valz some more weapons that don't require Arm Arcus

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OBJECTIVE FORM POWER RANKING
Form G > Form H > Form T > none > Form B

>>14334400
>MK finally gets it full 4-game series
>doesn't even actually end
are you serious

>>14334572
The thing that probably gives the illusion of "bloat" is how there's some characters in the cast who are beyond irrelevant.

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>>14334623
I think the red dots all over Valz' body are the proton cannons' gunports so maybe?

>>14334631
Sales bombed harshly for this series. Hence, Coffin of the End.

>>14334558
Arm Arcus is literally a pocket knife for Valz.

I hope OG fixes this.

>>14334629
G and H were great.

There's no lineart for Blood/Grave Ark in that page or so left, is there?

>>14334632
Just imagine them as grunts. They are military after all. Tech as advanced so much many of the old special snowflake robots are not that special anymore besides looking unique.

>>14334631
The final boss got the Perfectio treatment: you shoved him into a crossgate, but he's not actually dead. He'll be back sooner or later.

>>14334635
Something something dimensions.

Maybe it's actually summoning a shitton of Arm Arcuses or something.

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>>14334636
The Arks were done by someone else altogether and I don't actually know

>>14334613
I may be remembering wrong, I thought maxing a weapon was only around 200k since they're all individually upgraded? Also that the bigger STMC's were like 25k each and spawn in a dozen or so at a time. I know I did farm the stage where you first get Gunbuster for tons of cash so I was pretty okay with money regardless. Regardless MAP spam was how I tackled endgame, I legit don't know how you're supposed to tackle the Gunbuster(?) finale otherwise, where you need to reach a square and it's surrounded by boss-tier STMC for like four squares in every direction.

>>14334642
That worked for Perfectio, given what exactly it was.

Was the final MK thing actually Lovecraft-tier like it, or was MK just being lazy?

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>>14334372
ALL

>>14334635
It can make a bunch of copies of itself, that's how it does the Bow and Sword things.

>>14334635
Its sword form is bigger than you might expect, especially after a bunch of weird crystal shit gets added on.

>>14334633
How come the SRX can get away with having a V-Fin?

>>14334652
For shitty weapons maybe, but finishers and MAPs on good units typically cost at least 240k.

Not to mention that unlocking some good MAPs like Fin Funnels or Rolling Buster Rifle require maxing other weapons in the first place. You sure you weren't cheating in extra money or something? I really can't blame you for those stages but still.

The way you do that stage without MAP spam is just chip them down while you move the Excelion forward. I didn't use MAPs at all and I had all but two STMC wiped out by the time the ship even got close.

>>14334663
Because the SRX's mask doesn't look anything like a Gundam

>>14334658
You kill him, he turns into the giants. You kill the giants, they turn into him.

>>14334640

RIP Vysaga being top-tier.

OG2-AP (actually wasn't that great in OGG but it was nice enough to dodge attacks until lamia is used to expend zeal to power SRX's HTB spam

>>14334663
Tons of mechs have a V-Fins.

>>14334664
>The way you do that stage without MAP spam is just chip them down while you move the Excelion forward.

Or yell "BILBINE, KILL!" and watch the magic happen.

>>14334667
Explain Bellzelute's upgrade, then. The face looks pretty gendum.

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OG WHEN

>>14334671
No, you kill him, he becomes the three gods.

>>14334672
>HTB Spam
>Not having SRX and R-Gun (Mai) twinned for the power boost
If you're going full hardcore one-turn the final boss spam anyways.

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>>14334648
For the record, those 2 pages worth of Exblau?
That's all there is.
>no lineart for Form G
Fucking kill me

Have a pic of Nightingale's ass as I go lie down and despair

>>14334676
The entire rest of the Brigandi looks nothing like a Gundam, even if a V-Fin does.

>>14334674
Unless everything ends its turn more than 1 square away. Then decidedly less magic happens.

>>14334680
Derp.

https://youtu.be/Q0ZXBwt_Cz8
https://youtu.be/Utt51gQovj0

It is beginning /srwg/. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

>>14334685
>I-It's ok if a Gundam head shows up in OG as long as the body doesn't look like a Gundam!
see >>14334145

>>14334599
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E5%A4%A7%E6%88%A6OG-%E3%83%A0%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%83%87%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A8%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-%E3%83%A6%E3%83%8B%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89-%E9%9B%BB%E6%92%83%E6%94%BB%E7%95%A5%E6%9C%AC%E7%B7%A8%E9%9B%86%E9%83%A8/dp/4048694464?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

It's called Unit Data Guide. Includes scenario chart, mecha and pilot data, system data.

Jegan are you going to scan the mecha booklet that comes with the MD limited edition?

>>14334689
Shut it down

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>>14334256
>Database hinted by the Fury Emperor
>Database
W is coming soon at last.

Honestly i m just waiting for the three way combo attack with sanger, mist + raftclans with their infinity swords

>>14334658
>Was the final MK thing actually Lovecraft-tier like it, or was MK just being lazy?
Kadum Hacham, or however the fuck it's supposed to be spelled, is straight up fucking unkillable. Whenever he's "killed" he just reincarnates as the three gods. When the three gods are destroyed, they reincarnate as the giants. It's an endless cycle.

In CotE, the plan was for the spirits of La Gias (as something of an equal and opposite force) to cancel out the giants/gods, breaking the cycle of reincarnation and resulting in the mutual annihilation of both parties. Unfortunately, before the attack could finish, KH escaped into a conveniently located crossgate, leaving both parties' fates unknown (until their plot finishes in a future OG game, of course).

So a little of column A, a little of column B.

>>14334674
He only has so much EN for Sword Hardest, STMC have two much range and sword is too slow. Still does a number on them, but GUNBUSTER, KILL is far more effective.

>>14334689
What the fuck

>>14334679
I miss Hibikiposting

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>>14334693
Anything that needs scanning, I will scan.

>>14334711
Hibikiposting was pretty fun.

I suppose you could say it was COOL AS HELL.

>>14334717
Then bring it back.

JUST DO IT.

>>14334664
Definitely wasn't cheating, though like I said I did abuse the fuck out of the Gunbuster debut stage and probably played it around ten times for money and maybe kill count shenanigans (I forget if kills were kept when you Game Over'd or only cash). 240k for a weapon upgrade is definitely affordable by that point of the game if you're making sure to use Luck, regardless.

>>14334659
>Taimanin Dwellers
I would watch

>>14334715
This booklet is 100 pages, so it's going to have old OG units that didn't get lineart before. At least I hope

J and GC stuff should be 30 pages tops

>>14334693
Oh god, we're getting Z3 caliber books now?

>>14334686
Yeah, then it takes a turn longer.

In all seriousness though, Bilbine's really fucking good against STMC. Since every STMC has 0% chance to hit it (even those combined ones) even bugged tiles don't work, and Bilbine hits really hard. The lack of a MAP hurts, but it's basically how I took down that giant STMC clump in the middle part of the final stage - well, that and MAPs.

>>14334717
>>14334720
GATORAIDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I don't have his screaming portrait, post it please.

>>14334462
>The Sol Masters + Dinogeist
So, what does Dino Geist have to gain from a bunch of radicals that want to destroy the entire regular universe?

>>14334679
Probably around 2030. We've got a lot of games left to get through first.

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>>14334736
There's several. Let me know if this is not your match.

>>14334702
>GUNBUSTER, KILL is far more effective.

Yeah, but you can say that about anything. Buster Beam is one of the best single attacks in the game in terms of power and range compared to EN cost, it costs like 20 but has a base of like 4000 for a 1-8 move.

>>14334741
NOT MY MATCH

Do you have the one with the eyes closed and the head tilting up? It's my favorite

>>14334733
>bugged tiles
what now

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>>14334751

>>14334731
Whatever is needed I will do. Also I'll rip the soundtrack as well.

>>14334762
GOOD JOB, G-anon.

>>14334753
Let's say 100 - 99 equals 1, okay?
Well, to a bugged tile, 100 - 99 could equal 100 anyways because fuck you.

>>14334753
In Alpha 1, there are a series of tiles in many stages that are bugged. If anyone is on them, unless they have a 0% chance of being hit, they will be hit every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qiwQE53vnU

COOL AS HELL

>>14334524
Gameplay itself is slow in general. Real Robots get fucked in the dodging department. The SR points are frustrating as fuck to even obtain which is made worse by the fact that the game will spit in your face if you go through the effort of getting too many or all of them.

The overall presentation of the game is pretty bad too. It looks like the UI was an rpgmaker default template barring the portraits.

The music is a fucking mess. Some songs are actually properly composed while others sound half-assed at best, and unfinished at worse. Beyond the Time sounds like the sound designers forgot to change some of the instruments to anything other than the windows MIDI defaults.

As a final "Fuck you" this game has a new game plus. It carries over ONLY unspent money. If you go through the most bearable route of play by using mostly supers and upgrading the fuck out of them have fun replaying with a measly pittance of extra cash that reminds you that you're a scrub for spending to begin with.

So Japs favorite SRW are Ex, F and OGs

Quite surprising OGs is in the list

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>>14334572
Didn't they say something about Kyosuke and the ATX getting something new this game? And they can't fully phase out the old guys, the SRX Team still has to upgrade, same with Kusuha and Bullet. New Aggressors are super popular, so the only serious gains could be cutting like, the Octo Squad. And do you really want to give up Leona? Are you that much of a filthy pleb?

>>14334715
Calvina what are you even doing

>>14334789
>Leona
That's a weird way to spell Katina. I'd kill a man to keep her in OG

>>14334788
OGs is simply amazing.

I forgot to play Dark Prison.

How long is it? Not just in terms of beating it but also getting all the trophies. I need to beat before starting MD but I'm not in the mood right now.

>>14334789
Leona is my favorite Alpha. Don't suggest I'm a filthy pleb ever again.

Sieguarlion also kicks fucking ass. love him.

>>14334801

23 missions I think.

>getting all the trophies

EX Hard is annoying but doable. You're going to REALLY rely on Shu on the final stage

>>14334801
Speaking of OGs 2nd Dark Prison, does anybody have a link to the dlc soundtrack?

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>>14334801
You need 3 run I think to Plat the game (dont think there's a plat but it shows 100% in my PSN)

I did it in about a week or so, with few hours of game time a day. Its not that long

Most stages are short. Hell in some stages you just get a granzon against like 10 thousand grunts

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>>14334792
Katina is also good. Octo Squad too good to give up.

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>>14334801
2 weeks max

>>14334801
>>14334807
30 Missions

>>14334788
>Quite surprising
It's pretty much the BEST entry when it came out.

>100+ stages long
>More customization than regular srw
>Consistent animation while having great choreography
>Fun secrets
>Bgm for every single playable character
>It's not tedious like alpha 3
>Actually address fan complaints like axel's dickery

>>14334280
A destroyed hunk of junk piloted by a cheerful skeleton pilot with metal music as it's theme.

>>14334826

Plus it was amazing looking for its time, even compared to other SRW coming out at the time

>>14334826
Why are OG games so damn quick anyways?
Usually it takes me ages to get past even the early game, meanwhile in OGs I went through 20 stages in 1 sitting

It's also the only SRW I played more than once so far (and more than twice too)

>>14334679
Not with those legs

>>14334789
Why the fuck would I wanna give up the Octo Squad?

>>14334839
They were still testing the water with OG1.

>>14334846
Especially in Ryusei route

>>14334839
1) Story that's not taken up mostly by retreading anime plots you already know (if you can read moon, anyways, otherwise you're just skipping it either way)
2) Most units and almost every pilot is at least decent

Still the best PV ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1zJINvurec

>>14334853
Yeah surprisingly enough, even the bad ones aren't so bad.

And in 2nd OG, the carryover for PP is like MX where they add everything up and distribute the entire thing equally. If you're willing to do the Kouta grind, you could literally just make everyone in your party so damn powerful.

>>14334863
The Einst-Alt's stake attack always cracks me up
Shame that they never get enough will in any actual stages to use it on you

>>14334839
As much as I like 2nd OG, the early game was a real chore to get through.

>>14334889
Yeah, the pacing in the EX portion was awful. There are a lot of points where they could have combined multiple missions together, no problem.

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you think that they will bring this back one day?

>Arierre literally NTRed Excellen

wew lad

>>14334895
Yeah. They really should have cut that down to 12-13 stages. Probably even less honestly.

>>14334901
Clearly what we need to fix this is an Excellen/Ariel combo attack.

>>14334864
I honestly like distributing in OGs because I don't hate anyone and usually just use whoever I want
If they do that in crossover game it will be a mess because you will be giving pp to some retard fucks like >Katz

>>14334916
I agree. There's no one in OG I'd refuse to use. It has a damn good cast.

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>>14334849

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>>14334849
Fuck

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>>14334849

>>14334901
E XCELLEN
D ANA
N ETORARE

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>>14334849
Goddamnit anon.

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>>14334849
pfffffffft

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Uh okay. If you say so scenario maker.

>>14334737
Dino Geist got killed 13 chapters ago. They're just using his corpse.

>>14334849
http://instantrimshot.com/

I'm The Euzeth Edel the Perfectio

>>14334953
What's going on there?

>Macross 7 final route in D

I feel like this is going to be extremely painful

>>14335014
For some strange reason whatever Sol Masters you kill respawn on the next PP. I'm going to assume that you need to kill all of them for the game to move on or just Not J and Not Gai.

Either way its really stupid because the game just says Defeat All.

>>14334953
>>14335021
PISA SOL STOP IT.

>>14334410
>>14334431
Granteed Dracodeus is a big, fat mess