1980s/1990s /m/oe

>>14332614
Eve looks dead inside

>posing done
>time to start spazzing

>>14332614
>>14332650
>>14332654

None of these are moe.

moe existed back then, of course, but it wasn't that. These are grown women characters. At most this is sexualized fan service.

Moe girls are helpless cute little blobs with child like features.

>>14332692
>Moe girls are helpless cute little blobs with child like features.

so Nene

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>>14332692
Don't take words overly literally and proceeed with posting cuties thinly veiled with /m/ relation.

>>14332673
DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE CALL THIS SHORT MOE!

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>>14332708
If you prefer fuckingcute, so be it.

Who is the master of 80s moe?
Sonoda?
Shirow?
Hirano?

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>>14332729
For me Hirano. Gall Force is great but Iczer-1 is Iczer-1.

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>>14332692

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>>14332729
Shirow makes the best action girls but when he tries his hand at cute helpless damsels he kind of falls short.

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>>14332692

One thing I dig about the cute-girl aesthetic in this time period is how round and filled out they are in comparison to the current cute-girl aesthetic.

Unless the part is a boob or a butt, much of the girls and women depicted are rail thin, some to the point of seeming emaciated (if not for the cutesy art style excuse). Not to say 80s and 90s girls were fat in any sense of the word, but they looked...fed.

Also noses and not as many school uniforms.

>>14332774
they looked full of joy and energy.

>>14332673
She's so beautiful and charming.
"Moe" is really a gross oversimplification.

>>14332735

>that loving embrace

Never happens in the OVA. Nagisa is completely clueless that Iczer-1 is a lesbian.

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>>14332695
Nene is an oba-san.

Seriously, 2033 Nene looks like every "hip and active" grandma you see in hearing aid commercials nowadays.

>>14332871
Nagisa was built to suffer.

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>>14332618
She's doing her best to maintain the fleeting dream of the best era of human history - the 1980s - in the face of imminent annihilation and despair.

She's vaporwave personified.

>>14332692
they're moe if I say they are

>>14333053
YOHKO

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>>14332614
Rayearth thread?

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>>14333046
>Rabby doesn't have a bunnygirl costume
what is this?
is this hell?

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>>14333080
DAD, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEIR FACES?

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>>14333082

>implying adults are moe

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>>14332614
Outlaw Star

>>14333372
oooh! what this one?

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>>14333375

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Megami Paradise, from the AIKa guy I think. Forgot to post /m/-related girls for a a moment. It would be a shame to limit ourselves so anyway.

>>14333389
chibi girls are the best

>>14333413
>>14333417
>>14333421
I tried watching this and it was like one of those mid-2000s US cartoon parodies of anime tropes I was so disappointed.

>>14333492
>>14333489
I watched it mostly for the hair.

>>14333489
Why is Maki fondling that woman's hair and leaning on it?

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>>14333518
>I claim this policewoman. There are many like it but this one is mine.

>>14333527
>tumblinas think they can be as attractive as Ai just by copying some of her outfits
laughable

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>>14332871
Nah, in the end she knew what she got into. It didn't matter though.

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>>14334181
Too bad that Dangaizer-3 didn't go anywhere.

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It sure had cute girls doing cute things.

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Glorious 90s.

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>>14334238

The extreme 90s, where cartoon girls looked like cartoons!

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I don't think I've watched more than 1 episode of Saber Marionette J, but I will always immediately recognize it...

>>14332695

Nope, Nene works at the AD Police. She's petite but that is it. She's a hacker and one hell of a woman and police officer. Not a great fighter but yeah few can compare with Deunan or Priss purely on the physical side.

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>>14332614
>'80s style dance/workout outfit

Buckets, I tell ya. BUCKETS!

>>14332774
>One thing I dig about the cute-girl aesthetic in this time period is how round and filled out they are in comparison to the current cute-girl aesthetic.Unless the part is a boob or a butt, much of the girls and women depicted are rail thin, some to the point of seeming emaciated (if not for the cutesy art style excuse). Not to say 80s and 90s girls were fat in any sense of the word, but they looked...fed.Also noses and not as many school uniforms.

Good point. I don't know when thin as stick became the meme of character designers but modern female characters in anime are so thin as to be disgusting. A little fat here and there is healthy. I think most anime character designers just fucking forgot to attend a basic human anatomy course.

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>>14334380
What are you talking about? Girls with pencil-waists and no hips have been around since the 80s. If anything, slim hips and high-waist panties were more in vogue then.

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>>14334422

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>>14334422
high-cut =/= high-waist

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>>14334422
I guess back then even this supernarrow torso style preserved more ample thigs/legs, so it compensated a little. Whereas today you often have very thin thighs with wide hips, so huge thigh gap. That way is going too far IMHO.

Although with this it always matters how much are you accustomed to the stylization.

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Have some Mink to compensate.

>>14334496
Honest question: is there anyone floofier than Mink?

>>14334496
Nice package.

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>>14334523
There is.
Her hair is so STRONG that it can never be displayed whole in an en-face frame.

>>14334580
That is a dude, dude. Don't diss him.

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>>14334605
Come on, trolling has it's limits!

>>14332614

>hand-drawn anime died

When did this happen? Are robots finally taking over?

>>14334718
Meaning drawn on paper, shot on film. As you can see the look IS in fact rather different than from Wacom and Photoshop.

>>14334718
Yes, and it's for the worse.

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Oh, here's the one with the nipples standing out. STARE

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>>14334766
Iria Zeiram!

Now that's how you make a cool female character Anita.

>>14334735

Why not just call it cel-animation?

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Space elves. What happened to them?

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>>14334805
Valid idea, but too late now.

>>14334805
Because the Character Designer also did a futa hentai.

>>14334833
Moved to America for the Voltron reboot, apparently.

>>14334843
Is this girl from Iria too, or something else?

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>>14334976
A silly gratuitous OVA called Desert Rose. Dunno which one is more over the top, this one, or Cleopatra DC.

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>>14332771
>>14332775
Rem is the cutest magical girl

>>14335007
Buttobi CPU.

I mean, if you're going to rattle off ridiculous Kaoru Shintani works, why not Buttobi?

>>14334422
>>14334426
Ah, torpedo tits. Why did they ever go away?

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>>14335063
Rem eats at Winkie Burger.

>>14336864
CUTE!

>>14336864

That is adorable! The little cat and dog she has just sells the whole design.

>>14336900
those are Alpha and Beta, and they're top-tier mascots

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>>14336942
And they can make phone calls and drive a car (together).

>>14336879
This show made me think of an American cartoon except with gore and shit.

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Dog: "Woof Woof"
Inspector Sakaki: "Oh, it's you, Beta."
Dog: "Woof Woof"
Inspector Sakaki: "I understand! I'll be there ASAP."

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>>14336864
This reminds me that I promised to scan my second book. I'll try to do it after I finish my exams.

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>>14332614
>hand drawn anime died
are you retarded?
do you think they just press a button on a computer and anime just comes out?

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>>14332614

>>14337269
>Taking the term literally

Are you retarded? Do you think people ever drew using with their hands? They used pencils and pens, dipshit.

>>14337278
>I was only pretending to be retarded
Sure thing

>>14333544
>womens' noses died in 2002
rip

>>14337328
Escaflowne went through most of Japan's nose reserves.

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>>14333544
>>14337328
>>14337345

We should call it "Krillin Syndrome"

>>14337318
He isn't the OP, I am. As for >>14337269, see >>14334735

To give a longer answer. Sure, hands stayed involved, but the style has changed with computers a lot. What played a big role is that at the start of digital anime epoch, the drawing/desings were simplified a lot, probably to make it all easier and because computers were slower, tools worse. See how for example the Gestalt OVA looks. Or Excel Saga.

By the time the complexity of art rose again in later 2000s to compensate up for the loss of that intangible paper/pen/pencil/ink/film effect (that makes old simple art look more vivid than comparable simple digital painting), the aesthetics changed a lot. For those reasons, anime was never the same again.

Got to see the wider context before jumping at semantics and going mad.

>>14337318
I'm not the other guy. It's a common term for traditional animation, retard.

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>>14337417
They still draw on paper, nigger.
They just colourize it and add effects with a computer.
Its still hand drawn, and guess what, styles and aesthetics would've changed regardless of whether it was filmed or scanned onto a computer.

>>14337483
Just because lots of retards who don't know a fucking thing about animation use it doesn't mean its correct.

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>>14337417

You should have said "cel animation", then. Hand-drawn animation still exists.

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>>14337485
>semantic argument continues
My point in the rant you react to was differences in final style and look that is the product and I gave an explanation.

>Styles and aesthetics would've changed regardless of whether it was filmed or scanned onto a computer.
Yes, I say so too? But why do you think it matters? But do you seriously want to claim that it is just due to the time? That the digital/computer tools change nothing? Do you also think that the stuff that people draw using computers and put on deviantart is same in style and look as old-school mode paintings/drawings?

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>>14334827
>>14337489

Yeah, but you can't go back in time. And it wasn't really a moment of focusing all my mind capacities Deathnote-style, back then.

Oops, I already responded but screwed up the reaction >>14334843

>>14337763
>the entirety of the suit is padded
wow

>>14337767
Is that guy on the right supposed to be Sonoda?

>>14337417
>comparing an OVA to a TV series
Please just kill yourself already.

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>>14338441
How long are you gonna nitpick? At least post something moe.

>>14332614
what are you saying?
anime is still hand drawn.
it's the colouring that went paint bucket digital.

those 3dcg traced anime is still hand drawn.

>>14337350
KISAMA!

>>14334934
SAUCE

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>>14338458
okay

>>14332893
>She's vaporwave personified.
>tfw ywn be that a e s t h e t i c

>>14337485
>dat 1995
S

>>14339988
E

>>14332893
>She's vaporwave personified.
woah

>>14337485
some are. but some are almost all digitally done, besides basic concept sketches. and obviously digital coloring changed the game in how shading and so forth is done (for the worse)

>>14340147
don't bother replying to that idiot, if he wants to believe most current studios don't draw using styluses and are actually using paper, then he can continue living in that 90s fantasy.

are you from the year 3000

anime is still drawn by hand

>>14340147

go watch shirabako

>>14340988
THAT SLUT AT THE BOTTOM ISN'T THE REAL EVE

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>>14341107
Haha, only now I noticed the drill hair going literal drill.

>>14341142
Flash Kei is fucking WILD

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>>14341186
And those boobs jumping around unconstrained in the red top.

>>14341190
Man, that beach volleyball episode.

>>14341178
>>14341142
Funny thing is, Kei has the same hairstyle as Mamoru from Gaogaigar, too (given that both had Kimura involved).

>>14344725
SHADING

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>>14344878
BOYA!

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>>14344845
Which is rare nowadays

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>>14344884
I am the moest

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>>14344975
That's not anime Lemnear, that's manga Lemnear!

OTAKING YOU HACK FRAUD

>>14344987
literally the worst

>>14333056
They're as moe as calling /m/-tan a -tan style character.

>>14339999
K

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the delightful Burn Up vixens were designed by Kenji Miyazaki.

is he known for anything else?

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SPOILER: SHE NEVER WEARS THIS IN THE OVA

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this is a police uniform

no mean comments will be allowed

>>14346797
Nice.

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>>14346797
>>14346808
>>14346813
Oh, that's interesting.
I watched W and Excess like 15 years ago. Didn't know there was a "parent" series.

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>>14346856
it's just one OVA, unfortunately.

Does anime still even have those "wise and mature but fragile lady" types of characters like Eve up there? I mean complete with a character design that looks fully grown-up, cause that shit's essential.

>>14337489
Hinoki was a qt

>>14340181
>f he wants to believe most current studios don't draw using styluses and are actually using paper,
They don't.

>>14340984
Sauce, I need it.

>>14348309
Majuu Senshi Luna Varga. It only has LDcaps available though.

>>14333544
Bit late on this, but I think it's kind of funny that anime characters got more and more natural/realistic looking until the mid 80s, then went back to being heavily stylised in 90s and never really looked back.

>>14353224
hhhhhhhhigh-cut. Dayum.

>>14353714
how many days do these legs last?

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How dirty.

>>14353722
look at this Mugi.

>>14353762
Too bad it didn't have more seasons, to see if he would grow up.

>>14333544
holy shit you couldn't have picked a more shit eating grin for Griffith.

>>14333544
>Excel Saga
>Gourry

Wh... Whaaa...?

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>>14354505
Yeah, Gourry belongs on the right.
Also Kino's journey on the "men" side.

>>14348753
They're all heavily stylized, numbnuts.

>>14333544

Lollin @ Kino on the men's side.

>>14355126
>>14355269
Hopefully there will be full good subs for the Japanese version someday, since DigitalShokunin dropped it for understandable reasons.

>>14355156
RIP in peace floofy bobcuts ;_;

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>>14356206
I need to try and get in touch with Discotek and ask what exactly's going on. The first 6 episodes on Crunchyrolll have clearly been reworked, and are much improved from the DVDs. But the rest seem to be the same as before.

>>14356927
You can try their Twitter or Facebook, if doing so via the website doesn't work.

>>14360266
is it worth a watch? I've heard it has sci-fi elements

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>>14334605
Androgyny was as big as the hair.

>>14332774
they look huggable and squeezable.
Even the tallest ones like Eve.

>>14360290
Is there honestly something more glamorous than Four in that outfit?

>>14334329
what's this one?

>>14363228
see >>14348516

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>>14364375
Why is Hitomi such a giant slut?

>Megazone 23 OST nowhere to be found

Death, take me gently

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>>14367570
Check bbt before accepting defeat.
https://bakabt.me/torrent/154313/megazone-23-music-collection

>>14367583
look at all these megazones

>>14367583
Holy shit. Bless you.

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>>14367583
>Even the girls are making fun of Shogo's goofy-ass design.

Thank Yasuomi Umetsu for making Shogo NOT look like a complete clown in part 2.

>>14367601
>prefering Act 2's Shogo to Act 1's
Shit taste desu.

>>14367609
YOU have shit taste my man.
part2 Shogo is more badass than in part1 and he doesn't look like ass.

part3 Shogo is a fucking travesty though.

>>14367615
>part2 Shogo is more badass than in part1
If having a face that only lacks makeup to look like the one of a drag queen and cowering in a cave during almost the entire OVA is more badass to you than sporting an awesome haircut while racing on your bike and raiding a military complex with a Hachimaki alone on your bahamut, then you've got a weird definition of badass.

>>14367629
>literal clown hair
>awesome haircut
>implying part 2 Shogo didn't literally raid a military complex with a hundred cops chasing his ass

>>14367633
>>literal clown hair
>He doesn't like the typical 70s/80s Japanese hero man floof
>>implying part 2 Shogo didn't literally raid a military complex with a hundred cops chasing his ass
Yeah, and don't forget the hundred other bikers backing his ass. The Act 1 Shogo did it alone like a man.

>>14367648
>The Act 1 Shogo did it alone like a man
and failed like a bitch.

Act2 Shogo had his droogs backing him and there's no shame in that.

>>14367657
>and failed like a bitch
While still dealing some heavy damages. Nothing wrong with failing at your task if you've done so standing and fighting like a man.
Act 2 Shogo only succeded because the main bad guy said "Heh, why not let them do that anyway", despite him hiding like a pussy 3/4 of the time and only showing when he was forced out by the police, not even the military or the secret services.

>>14367694
>getting his shit kicked in by an actual man
>fighting like a man

>>14367699
Getting your shit kicked doesn't mean you didn't fight as well. Yeah, Shogo lost the battle, but still kicked some major soldier ass before that.
That's still better than not even trying seriously and only getting your victory handed down to you out of pity.

>>14367722
>>14367746
These are from...?

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Eve is objectively the cutest girl in Parts I, II, and III.

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>>14367782
K.O. Beast

Relatively obscure 90s OVA.

>>14367808
She barely appears in part 3

>>14367808
In one shot of part 2, you can see that she has grey hair on one poster and the next shot her hair is green.

So apparently making her hair green was a last-minute decision; Umetsu wasn't in charge of her design, and the promo material has her with green hair, but since he oversaw the animation, I wonder if it's supposed to be a callback to the doll over here: >>14332673

>>14367825
Very cute one, though (and the furries!). I hope it gets remastered one day.

>>14371952
Remaster plox!

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>>14371952
Mei Mer a qt. One of my favourite 90's girls

>>14371952
This show was more furrier version of Ramune?

>>14373492
And more furry.

>>14373492
That series' creator and character designer were involved in this, so yes.

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look at this dumb fairy and her dumb puffy hair

>>14333544
All the male chins are way to fucking pointy now

Curse you, image limit.

>>14344738
Damn, still no remaster (or BD, even), for this?