70s & 80s mecha thread

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Why is he called Yellow when his hair is blue?

>>14327585

For the same reason why Red and Blue are called that way but don't have Red nor Blue hair.

>>14327585
Comedy

>>14327585
Hnnnnggggg, dat ass.

It's because of his creamy smooth off-white complexion.

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So I read the Mazinger Z manga, and I just now started watching the anime of Great Mazinger since it seems like it's getting subbed again, and it feels like there's a disconnect between the two. I know there's a new pilot named Tetsuya who replaces Kabuto and the Mycenae Empire replaces Dr. Hell's army as the antagonists, but it seems like they already explained this stuff at some point in the anime and we're already dropped in the middle of it. Does the anime version of Mazinger Z explain things that the manga doesn't, and do I need to watch the anime to fully understand what went down?

>>14329616
Go watch Mazinger Z vs Ankoku Daishogun.

The last episode of Mazinger Z also works, theoretically, but the movie is better.

As for Dr. Hell, he's kind of suffering from a bad case of dead after Kouji killed his ass.

>>14329626
Thanks, I'll try the movie.

>As for Dr. Hell, he's kind of suffering from a bad case of dead after Kouji killed his ass.

Savage

I got invited to an anime group on FB, just some local kids and friends of friends. I posted a link to a sub of the first episode of Mazinger Z, and I was pleasantly surprised that a couple of 'em seemed to give it a chance.

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I just finished to read Mazinger Z and I was wondering if this serie really is the first to include giants robots that are piloted from the inside, I always find the whole "Go Nagai Invented piloted robot" hard to believed, was there no other series with a similar concept ? In animation, manga or even live action series or toku ?

>>14330476

Well, the only thing that come to mind is Astroganger, but I don't know if it's actually piloted, even though the MC do get inside of him (I haven't watched the show yet):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQZVerzKRQ

>>14331755
Wouldn't Mazinger still beat it out by being a manga first? Astroganger meanwhile looks to have been an original show.

>>14331795

Yup, after looking about it, it looks like it beats it by 2 days.

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>>14330476
There are some manga where characters other than the main character had piloted mech like stuff from Yokoyama.

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Stranger danger kids.

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Say it like it is, Koji.

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I almost feel bad for them. Sayaka the shrew and Boss, who's Boss. What a life!

>>14331755
>>14331849
Thanks for the info. So the idea was present at that time, but it's likely Nagai that fully developed first that concept.
It's allways nice to know.

>>14330476

Too bad Getter-2's head isn't as good looking as Getter-1's, let alone Getter-3's head, because it's definitely cooler than the latter with it's drill arm, while the head (and legs to some extent) are kind of subpar.

>Mazinger captured.
>Professor Yumi with a gun to his head.
>Control of the ground established.
>Literally one step from victory.

Oh Baron Ashura... you loveable idiot.

>>14334915
And now s/he's in a cave about to be drowned.

Being Baron Ashura is suffering.

>>14334930
It's not like they didn't bring it on themselves, at least most of the time.

Lorelei next episode and I'm calling it a night at that. Too sleepy for feels atm.

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Don't you LOVE obscure discoveries.

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>>14334915
Baron Ashura is absolutely fucking terrible at his job, news at 11.

>>14337190

Shiet is that a CD Video rip? Shit look worse than a worn up VHS.

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>Within just a few episodes after this it switches to [Aisha] being paired with Yellow and then suddenly switching back to Stig. What the fuck?

They were teasing a potential love triangle, but it's hinted by the end of this episode that this pairing is not meant to be.

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>>14337507
The arrival of Solzie also complicates the situation beyond a mere triangle.

As >>14327585 would subtly suggest, her attraction to Yellow seems instinctive from the first time they meet.

>>14337550
>Solzie
SHE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTER, THANKS FOR THE IMAGE

>>14339333
Good for you.

>>14337550

She look quite pissed on that cel. Which episode was it used in? I think it might be one where they're on the snowy mountains but I'm not sure.

>>14329616
Why are you even watching a sequel first? Maybe if you watch the prequel first you'll understand what's going on.

>>14343049
I thought Great Mazinger was the immediate next series in production order after Mazinger Z. I read the manga of Z because, while there are good subs of Z now, the ones I could find were 100GB in partitions of 8GB each and I was just too lazy to download that on my 250GB hard drive and bumfuck-nowhere internet connection. Someone in the thread already recommended I see the movie, and I did, but is there another series I should have watched before Great Mazinger I don't know of? I have an autistic need to watch series in production order unless there's a really huge benefit to watching them out of order, like that movie that bridges Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger together for people who didn't watch the anime version of Z.

I'll probably watch the anime version of Z eventually since I do want to see exactly how Dr. Hell goes down (unless there was a chapter of the Z manga I couldn't find that shows it), but just seeing how Z fell is enough for the time being to be able to watch Great Mazinger with a reasonable understanding.

>>14343072
>is there another series I should have watched before Great Mazinger I don't know of?

I mean, yes, you should have watched Mazinger Z. It's a bit hefty of a download (23.85 gigabytes if my torrent isn't lying to me) but that's because it's also 92 episodes worth of material.

>>14337190

What is it? A quick search gave nothing, and a google image reverse search gave me pics from the Little Mermaid.

>>14343072
The issue with going between the manga and anime for the Z -> Great transition is that the transition is in the Z anime for the anime, but it's in the Great manga, for the manga. So, jumping from the Z manga to the Great anime, you're missing both the manga and anime's takes on the transition.

>>14343072
Great Mazinger isn't even that good compared to Mazinger. It completely lacks everything that made Mazinger good. Ironically, the best episodes were the last ones when Kouji returns to help kick ass. Seems that having Kabuto Kouji makes everything better.

What would you guys recommend for LoGH: Laserdisc rips or BD rips? I've heard mixed things about both. Sounds like BDs had re-done animation that isn't so great?

>>14346804
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4036

>>14346857
They had the hindsight to do that for Grendizer from the get-go, at least.

>>14348129
The new animation sticks out like a sore thumb, yes. It's sort of like watching the compilation movies for Zeta Gundam.

>>14343072
>unless there was a chapter of the Z manga I couldn't find that shows it
I believe when the manga was compiled for a re-release in Japan, a final chapter that shows Dr. Hell's defeat was added. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a translation anywhere.

>Discotek announced both X-Bomber and its Star Fleet adaptation at AnimeNEXT
Cool beans! Looks like that's another show Skaro won't need to do. Also, Jungle Emperor Leo, on a non-/m/ note.

>>14350316
>>Discotek announced both X-Bomber and its Star Fleet adaptation at AnimeNEXT
holy shit
what's next, Monkey?

>>14350363
Star Fleet's had UK DVDs of it out for a while though. Is X-bomber the one with Bongo Hercules?

>>14350526
I'm pretty sure Monkey has UK discs too. iirc they got the cast back together to dub the rest of the series
in Star Fleet he's Barry Hercules, not sure about X-Bomber

How does discotek make money by subbing all these obscure series?

>>14350552
Sub only releases are cheap and they generally sell through Right-stuf who are online only. Low overheads all round and enough devoted fans to make it worthwhile.

>>14350526
>>14350546
X-Bomber definitely has his name as Bongo Hercules.

>>14331755
Astroganger is not piloted from my understanding. It's also made by the same people who made Chargeman Ken.

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>>14352555
Has anyone here seen Astroganger? How is it? I'm interested in it since it came out before Mazinger, but the robot's face is, um

uh

>>14352555

Yes, and they made Attaker You! too.

>>14352575
Man, I think the OP for that alone has more unique frames than the entirety of Chargeman Ken.

>>14352571
I've never actually seen it myself. I'm a bit morbidly curious.

>>14352597

Well, I kinda like Attaker You!'s OP.

>>14352626
Nothing wrong with that. I was just amazed how much fucking better it looks than Chargeman Ken does. Would not have guessed same studio. I mean, Chargeman Ken has frames with coffee stains on them.

>>14352642

Shit, I both misread AND misunderstood your previous post.
Anyway, yeah, it's surprising to learn that they were made by the same studio, even though Attaker You! was made more than 10 years later.

>>14352575
>>14352626
>>14352642
Incidentally, Johnny-englishsubs is steadily subbing Attacker You! (alongside Grendizer).

Knack also did Govarian, for those not aware.

>>14353716

They also did Groizer X too if I recall correctly.

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>>14339333
YOU'RE WELCOME

>>14342123
It is. This is right after she's about to blast away Jim until Yellow runs out and saves him, much to her surprise.

https://msubsreleases.(word fresh from the new press).com/2016/06/13/great-mazinger-27/

Brand new Great episode punctuated with a pic that seems lewd when out of context.

In unrelated bad news, Shidoni's computer got vandalized by the ninjas, so the Daimos project is still cursed.

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>>14357462
Neat!
It doesn't seem THAT lewd

>tfw have to wait until finished with Mazinger to start Great

>>14357462
https://msubsreleases.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/great-mazinger-28/

You're a tad behind on the releases.

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80s!Tetsujin's Gura (pic related) reminds me of Voltes V's Heinel/Zardoz, Daimos' Richter/Ulrich and God Sigma's Terral

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Dem Mickey B-29s. Good ol' Mazinger Z.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mT3Aw8cjIM
Beyong the Time played through an MT-32 MIDI expander, by a PC-8801MA2.

Chapter 3 of Jeeg is out today. It features Hiroshi punching dogs.

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Make up you own dialog with pic related.

>>14363089
Wait, the Jeeg comic is being translated? Noice, I'll take a look at it then, thanks for the info.

>>14372373
hey that's a rare pic!

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>>14369341
>>14372373
misleading advertisement at its finest
>The Humanoid
>"come on guys you're gonna see a super hot naked robot chick shooting people"
>she wears an ugly yellow jumpsuit 95% of the time and doesn't do shit since she's a secondary character, and she's not even that attractive

>Black Magic M-66
>"uh, there's a bunch of characters, including a creepy robot girl in an ugly jumpsuit I guess"
>She spends 95% of her screentime naked, kicks ass left and right, looks great, and is the focus of the film.

>>14372436
It's not that misleading for Black Magic M-66 imo -- the way they placed the M-66 make it look like it's the main source of danger in the OVA, and both units appeared in that jump suit at first.
The Humanoid flyer truly is misleading though, they don't even show coffee in it.

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>>14375576
>they could have been wearing that stylish bodysuit instead
Missed opportunity

>>14379924
Seeing them in leotards would have been nice too. But anyway, these jumpsuits aren't that bad looking.

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So how many people have picked Gaiking up or plan to pick it up?

>>14389255
Just two groups: Skaro Hunting Society and Luurah, for a joint. But that was aborted, because Discotek licensed it.

>>14389387
I meant have picked up Discoteks set

>>14389255
I'll probably get it at some point but i just bought some other discotek sets so it will have to wait till next month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzqsDZ3XieY
>tfw still no new Daikengo episodes have been subbed

>>14393045
At Least TMU Subs finally gave up on subbing Cat's Eye, so maybe it'll actually go faster now, especially since Daltanious is nearly finished.

>>14389423
In that case, I may pick it up eventually.

>>14393622
Where is this bronze Lum statue from? It's pretty neat if you ask me.

>>14397235
looks like "oizumi anime" something or other

>>14369341
>>14372436

Ugh. The Humanoid. Gotta be one of the worst OVAs I've ever seen. And I so wanted to like it, too...

>>14393063
>Cat's Eye
Hasn't this been subbed already?

>>14397357
Yes, but they (or at least onidragon) wanted to try and finish their releases out of obligation anyway (even though Mokkori and Right Stuf beat them to that). You can see their trials and tribulations chronicled here: https://tmusubs.(word printed in the press).com/

It got to the point that one of the status updates wasn't really an update at all.

>>14389255
Mine should arrive today.

>>14397345

The only thing I watched from it was the coffee compilation, nothing else. What's so bad about it?

>>14401933
It's just dull and makes little sense.

How do I obtain 70s-80s Japanese "otaku" magazines? I want to start collecting them, but I don't know where to go.

>>14403933
Try to see which magazines were available back then, choose one, and try to search for issues of this one magazine on various auction sites. I hope you understand moonspeak though.

>>14406419
this
I remember when I first heard about A Space Godzilla I glanced around for the Starlogs it was in, and it was an easy enough thing to find, averaging about twenty bucks a pop iirc.

Y!J has some issues with letting filthy non-Japanese buy from them but you can weasel around that with some effort I've heard

Mandarake also holds magazines these days.
I remember they didn't when I got interested in getting some in 2012 but the selection is pretty good now.

Anyone got that high res image of the Xabungle dvd covers with Kogawa's name of it

>>14406637
That illustration is simply gorgeous!

>>14406624
Is that Shaian : Jin-roh Edition?

So what's sasword been up to lately? He seemed to be speeding through Great Mazinger early this month, but he hasn't put out anything for a few weeks

I should have known to wait until he was actually finished to watch Mazinger Z

>>14412357
I dunno, I generally don't start worrying unless it's been 6 weeks or so.

>>14413132
Yeah, one really shouldn't panic so soon when there's little activity after a burst of speed. It's far from X Nebula levels of delay (my apologies). Meanwhile, it's been over two months since Silver Castle Subs expressed the intention to sub Gold Lightan, yet nothing happened.

>>14413344
2 months prep time is fairly normal for a new series, raws have to be procured, staff rounded up, translation conventions agreed on, song translations sorted, possibly building a buffer up, etc.

I wish Crinn would answer my e-mails too. We had 4 eps almost ready to go (as in I had the release post drafted and TL notes done) when his PC broke, not heard a thing since beyond his backup laptop being a toaster. I send an e-mail every 3 months or so at this point to try and get a result.

>>14413569
>2 months prep time is fairly normal for a new series, raws have to be procured, staff rounded up, translation conventions agreed on, song translations sorted, possibly building a buffer up, etc.
Pretty fair, though doesn't Silver Castle just have Google Translate and a couple of checkers?
>I wish Crinn would answer my e-mails too.
We all do.

>>14413344
Oh, I'm not panicking. I know that he'll come back to it. I just want to know what's causing the delay so I can keep my expectations real. If it's gonna be another few years, then that sucks, but at least I won't be getting my hopes up after that promising return.

And speaking of which,
>>14413569
it'll be some time before you go back to Raideen, won't it?

>>14415127
Should have another episode within a week, trying to have an ep in the buffer (28 just needs final QC, but 29's only partially TL'd) and my current temp job should end end of this week depending on the leftover piecework.

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>>14406640

Tsk. Man, I have every single issue of B-Club except for issues #1 and #2. Probably gonna have to go through a Yahoo Japan Auctions proxy to get them...

>>14415272
Alright, well thanks for doing it either way

I have some kind of odd fascination with the Raideen series. I feel drawn to it despite knowing that none of the three shows rise above average. But I can't watch in production order like 4chan always tells me to if the first show isn't subbed. So, uh, godspeed

Though out of curiosity, I've seen you mention having lots of other projects to do as well. I know you're also doing the Layzner BDs, but what else are you working on?

>>14415604
I know that she has OCRs for (Super Robot) Red Baron to do (probably using the Mill Creek DVDs, because lord knows not everyone even owns the BCI Eclipse set).

On a non-Starseeker note, MartyMcFlies will be doing Dorvack, which may happen either before or after he runs out of records to rip.

>>14415604
Things I am actively juggling: Raideen, Dragonar QC, Lensman TL checker, Layzner BDs, Gridman QC, Red Baron encoding (need to check the last round of voodoo worked). Baxinger would be in this too if Crinn ever reappears. My sole involvement Great Mazinger is managing the DDLs and rekease posts.

Advance warning if you watch Chouja Raideen, it's at its best when being silly. And by silly we're talking a villain of the week being Donald Duck in a flying castle turning people into penguins.

Also Great Mazinger 29's out:
https://msubsreleases.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/great-mazinger-29/

>>14415604
>>14415658
Adding to this, modern Reideen has absurdly slow mecha fights, owning to the fact that the mech really shows its weight. It also has writing issues that are a bit irritating.

>>14415681
Modern Reideen isn't what he was talking about, he was talking about Chouja/The Superior, the 90s series.

That said, neither is in the scope of this thread.

>>14415658
You're an absolute legend.

Why is Ginga Senpuu Braigers OP so fucking cool

It has no right to be so cool

Also all the shading in it, when was the first instance of the typical 80s shading on mecha? Because I'm an uneducated pleb who doesn't know any examples earlier than 1981s Braiger OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHQjqtojwI

>>14415658
God damn man.

>>14417744
True, but I was saying in addition to what was being talked about. Also, Starseeker is a she.

>>14419777
That's Yoshinori Kanada for you, the guy was a legend when it came to dynamic animation.

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>>14419777
You'd have only half the watchers of now picking it up if it looked more like the usual early 80s mecha OP. Like say, Baldios (the song is good in itself though).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiYK130Fr70
Also check out 1980 Tetsujin opening for the 80s kind of nonsensical shading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FvnOMwsS7k
Gold Lightan also has a notably non-boring opening (especially given how ugly the characters are, they just knew to prefer robot smashing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKiUPoIY_ek

>>14419877
And worst offender of terrible openings from 1980-1981 is easily Godmars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCibToOcSnI
For as small as Kokusai Eigasha is I'm sure they made a huge contribution to changing the previous decade's OP paradigm.

>>14419886
*Godsigma
Damn the names are similar sometimes.

>>14419904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YapoNU_sPnQ
The Italian version of the God Sigma OP is amazing in a completely different way.

>>14419886
>>14419904
>And worst offender of terrible openings from 1980-1981 is easily Godsigma
It's not the best op of the time, but I don't find it bad either.

Anyway, I love the 1980 Tetsuwan atom's OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANd27NUNSzM

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Just finished Dairugger, and it was actually better than I expected.
How did Voltron adapt both Golion and Dairugger, both kind of violent and serious at times, into a single show for American audiences?

>>14426062
they didn't really mix the two like Robotech too much, it mostly just dubbed Golion and cut the crazy violence

>>14426062
It helps that they just picked two shows that were aesthetically similar (and in the case of Bismarck, just treated it as its own thing and didn't connect it to anything). Also, the whole confusion in regards to asking about "the show with the lions" (winding up with Golion instead of Daltanious).

>>14415127
30 came out, too.
https://msubsreleases.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/great-mazinger-30/
So there was no need to worry after all.

>>14406633
That's an unusual way to design gundam head. Are there any other designs of the time that look that way?

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>>14369341
>the Humanoid
Bow down to the true Humanoid, scum

>>14415658
Awesome

More of the Jeeg manga is out.
http://www.hokutonogun.com/?p=32230

So why is it that Bandai keeps bringing back and referencing Mazinger Z's Reinforced Rocket Punch while they ignore the Freezing Beam? The Reinforced Rocket Punch was only used in 1 episode, while the Freezing Beam were in at least five.

>>14433135
More iconic, cooler ,etcetera.

>>14433135
Because the Freezing/Reitou Beam was shit.

That said, when do they reference the Reinforced Punch? It's not all that often. SRW does it, but SRW uses it as a finisher because Mazinger doesn't have a proper one. Outside of that I can't think of any major work that used it, but I do remember that Reitou got into OVA Mazinkaiser's movie and OHKOd one of the Seven Generals.

>>14434271
The Freezing Beam was cool

It's not often that robots get non-damaging support moves like that, so they're always neat to see, and it's nice to see those superfluous horns on Mazinger Z actually used for something.

Apart from SRW, the Reinforced Rocket Punch has also been popping up in action figures. I know the SRC Mazinger Z has it. That's why I mentioned Bandai and not DP.

Anyway, I thought they more often used Breast Fire or Giant Swing Rocket Punch as Toeizinger Z's finisher in SRW anyway.

Speaking of Mazinger, Appollon A1 is perhaps the most fabulous mechanical beast yet.