Will mechas replace tanks in the future?

>>14293389
No, but I do think we will see some kind of drone filling in the role tanks play. And it will probably be a tank, just smaller since it doesn't need room for drivers.

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>>14293389
I see mecha being used more as power armor than full mechs to be honest.

The only terrain they'd be truly good in (hilly desert with little villages) is best left to MGCs and BMPT equivalents regardless. Power armor is where the future is.

Only if something causes earth's landscape to become completely undriveable.

>>14293902
ST powered armor beats most mechs anyway. They're completely invincible and all carry nukes.

>>14293950
Exactl my point, why bother building a mech the size of a building when a smaller unit could do the same with the added bonus of mobility?

>>14293389
Are you retarded?

>>14293389
No. Stop posting this

>>14293993
Because ST power suits are made of vibranium and powered by super nuclear fusion batteries the size of AAs.

They're wank material. The one factor about them that makes tanks actually bad against them is the super duper original hover pack.

>>14293993

It kinda makes war boring.

SADLY NO

I could see something like G Gundam happening.

Not for the "right to rule over space" thing, I mean building mechs to be the next level of boxing/UFC.

>>14293950
>They're completely invincible

Dude bug weapons can cut right through them, so can Skinny weapons

Starship Troopers powered armor is good because it's mobile, not because it's tough

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>>14293389
Tanks - hardly... But to assume the role of heavy infantry - why not?

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>>14294033
That time has already come and passed, young one.

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>>14294278
>why not?
because if you put your center of gravity high enough off the ground, even teddy bears can kick your ass.

>>14294481

Yeah but we're not inside them. It's not a true bloodspot when there's no blood.

>>14293389
Threads like this should be banworthy.

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>>14294278
So basically a tank but larger, slower, and costs infinitely more than an actual tank.

Even the germans knew bigger tanks were a bad idea because eventually pic related comes along.

>>14293389
Square cube law.

Mechs would only be viable if humans colonized Mars.

>>14293389
Only if the Moon is the battleground of the future.

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>>14295028
Or this.

>>14295076
Indeed my friend. A tanks worse enemy other than air cover is one man with something anti-armor in his hands.

>>14295041
>implying the future of war won't be fought in space, or at least on top of a very high mountain

We should just do what Wing did and create the Mobile Doll program

>inb4 drones

Drones are different. Mobile Dolls have the following advantages that drones don't

>lack hesitation
>AI controlled so it doesn't require a human controller (which is good since they have a ridiculous PTSD rate)
>unquestioningly loyal
>unlike human armies, your numbers are limited purely by the machines you can produce.

>>14295034
>Square cube law.
biggest cockblock after lack of funding

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>>14295152
Or both.

>>14293389
no

and i imagine tanks are increasingly irrelevant units

>>14295377
They aren't.

>>14295177
Armies should always be made up of men. AI should never do the fighting.

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>>14295028
>So basically a tank but larger, slower, and costs infinitely more than an actual tank.

Rather, it's a cross between this
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_fighting_vehicle

and this
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMPT_Terminator

Besides, mecha not have to be huge and slow - for example, VOTOMS and Heavy Gear

>>14296515
That image's mech still has a larger profile than a tank, or even an IFV, with an inferior method of travel, and with even less use than an IFV, since it can't carry any fucking I while being an FV.

Exoskeleton equipped SF I can see, but not full deal mecha.

>>14295161
wars in space will be fought using special vessels that are designed to do war in this medium. Like ships, but in space. spaceships.

Wars on Earth are shifting closer to cities +guerrilla warfare so no to both.

>>14296515
what is it armed with?

>>14293389
If Mechs will have any role in future combat it will be for the purpose of carrying heavier weapons than standard infantry while being smaller than a tank, a powered exosuit will probably be the most realistic outcome and even then it probably wont have armor strong enough to block more than pistol fire
the reason tanks are so useful is because they are extremely mobile artillery platforms that are practically immune to most infantry weapons

>>14293389
Probably some kind of 1-man tank at first. Then maybe they'll add arms and legs if they ever find the need.

>>14293389
No, but they will end up being the "premier" combat unit, then we'll unite under the Star League with thousands of planets, and when it collapses we'll be consumed by 300 years of savage wars.

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>>14294033
We'll pilot mechs for concerts too, just to make it more awesome. I can see robots being used in every form of entertainment in the future. Hell, Code Geass even had giant robots cooking a giant pizza.

>>14293902
>>14293950
>>14293993

I'd rather have mecha as tall as 3-4 meters, ala VOTOMS.

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>>14296526

So, Tactical Armor, ISHTAR Mk-II. We regard the heaviest armor of the two that were shown. What is true for this model will be true for more compact Raiden.

Height: 4.6m

Width: 2.3m ~

Depth: 2.3m ~

Weight: 3.0 tons

Weight at full load: 5.6 tons

Crew: 1 person.

With the growth of 4.6 meters, foot, about a meter long, half a meter wide. We get the pressure of 1.12 kilograms per square centimeter, while walking, and 0.56 kg per square centimeter when the machine is standing on two legs. Abrams - 1.1kg / s, T-90 (the latest version) - 0.98kg / s, respectively.

Now a bit about the advantages of action in a city or rough terrain. Height silhouette here already is less important because the fire at distances of a mile above will not be carried out - the visibility of little importance. On the other hand plays a big part of the target area.

So, we compare the target area "Ishtar" and the area of the M1A1 - Abrams. To simplify, we enter the target in the box.

Front / rear surface.

Ishtar - 10.58 sq.m.

M1A1 - 8.9 sq.m.

Side surface.

Ishtar - 10.58 sq.m.

M1A1 -23.91 sq.m.

The upper surface.

Ishtar - 5.29 sq.m.

M1A1 - 35.77 sq.m.

It is easy to notice that the most vulnerable side and top of the projection is significantly less than those in the tank.

It should also be noted the location of weapons. To the tank was able to use his arms, he needs to advance because of the obstacles, at least half. What is the delay between the appearance of the tank in the sight of the enemy and when the tank will be able to return fire. In the case of a vertically-oriented technique, the target and taking aim at the enemy it is almost simultaneously.

>>14293389
Dunno, nobody in this taiwanese bootleg merchandise board can answer that, they too busy to wank their shit and shitting each other while taking everything from wikis without actually do something.

Especially (you) OP.

>>14293389
Nah. Tanks themselves are almost done. Within ten years there will only be two types of war unit: drones and guerillas that can't afford drones.

>>14298471
>(you)
>small y
Also:
>OP
>getting (You)s with the native extension
Have this, (You)'ve earned it!

>>14298445
Write that out in english please.
>to the tank was able to use his arms, he needs to advance because of the obstacles, at least half
what did he mean by this

>>14295396
MBTs have an extremely limited role in near-future warfare

if you're counting APCs and the like as tanks, then thats a different story

>>14298946
How so?
Tanks are still the best weapons against other tanks, and considering tanks alwaysoperate in conjunction with infantry and air support, I'm not seeing how anything is going to make them obsolete.

>>14297205
Depends if It could work well in combat. Wouldn't mind it for sure though.

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>>14298909
>To the tank was able to use his armament he has to set the half-shell outside the shelter. Hence, the delay between the appearance of the tank in the sight of the enemy, and when the tank will be able to open fire. In the case of a vertically-oriented military equipment, aim and shoot around the corner, you can almost simultaneously.

Here it would be more accurate, probably

>>14300181
Still not making any sense, buddy.

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>>14293389

I don't care about the topic, I like the design of the mini mecha from Avatar. Just utilitarian enough while still having the 'big walking dude with hands' thing. Especially with that giant honking windshield; clearly not useful for warfare against heavily armed forces, but good for the purpose of COIN/suppressing natives.

>>14300307

Also, the fact that the auto cannon has a fucking bayonet on it, I just noticed.

>>14300307
>tfw no avatar game solely from the pov of the millitary gunning down natives

>>14300319
If it were back in the 90's RTS craze we would get one.

>>14300326
>Blizzard will never make it

>>14300307
Except for the fact that they neglected to give it glass that could stand up to the native arrows, even though they had full knowledge of such weapons for the entirety of the movie.
Shit, even current day Apache canopies can take 12.7mm rounds.

>>14298445
The weight figure for a vehicle of that size is ridiculous, so those calculations are moot to begin with. Try doubling it and that'd be feasible.
Moreover, a vehicle of that size couldn't carry armament nearly as powerful as a tank's. It would be more like a Bradley with less armour, being optimistic.
Maybe you underestimate the tech level of modern tanks, but computer-stabilized 120mm cannons are nothing to laugh at.

>>14300188

Well, here's the original text, try to understand itself

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>>14300353

Data on the size and weight are official, so humble yourself ...

As for weapons, the 65mm automatic cannon, 2/3 LOSAT missiles and 50mm automatic grenade launcher - a very decent arsenal

Protection - smoke discharges, it is possible to install active protection and reactive armor (why not?)

Besides, Ishtar has only one pilot, and thus protect from powerful weapons only the cockpit is necessary, the remaining parts can be equipped with bulletproof and anti-fragmentation armor

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>>14293389
An incredibly intelligent monster tank capable of ninjutsu.

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>>14300350

Yeah, that's pretty dumb, probably just for plot reasons.

I like the vehicle designs in that movie. Including the big gunship that looks like the Cheyenne dropship from Aliens took a bunch of steroids.

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>>14300307
Hmm, if you add the normal armor, strengthen limbs and sticking the sensor unit, we get it...

>>14293935
So...Mjolnir-esque armor suits or MADOX level exoskeletons.

>>14295028
A MANPAD FOR EVERY SOLDIER

>>14300188
Not>>14300181
but the gist of it was that a tank wasn't able to fire from cover and the MADOX was

>>14300353
Actually, I think that weight figure is a bit high. The average US car is about 4 tons and this is half the size. Considering that the pilot takes maybe half the internal volume the actual density can't be too high. Morover, it's capable of ground effect hover so it can't be too heavy or the thing simply won't fly.

>>14298883
Nah, thanks, (You) can have it back buddy.

Now back to this shitbait thread

>>14300828
>average US car is 4 tons
the average DIESEL TRUCK isn't even 4 tons, man.

>>14300394
I'm not saying it's not official, I'm saying it's not feasible. The RX-0 officially weighs 30 tons while being 20 meters tall and that's still retarded.
APS is not reliable against APFSDS, ERA is heavy as fuck.
>the remaining parts can be equipped with bulletproof and anti-fragmentation armor
The purpose of armour in vehicles is not to protect the crew, it's to keep the vehicle operative. An armoured cockpit and unprotected everything else means you have a living pilot inside a dead mech.
>>14300828
Cars are closer to 1-2 tons, but they're made of aluminium and plastic.
Consider how https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiesel_AWC is heavier than any car, and it carries minimal armour and armament.

>>14300918
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2011/06/your_big_car_is_killing_me.html

Yeah, it's weird but US cars are getting heavier.

>>14294534
Sadly people dont take well to bloodsport where people get crushed between two metal plates and their brain is splattered all over the place.

>>14293389
You'd probably see them used by engineers for base-building and obstacle clearing, MAYBE armed for self defense, but that'll be it.

>>14298976

Guided munitions are the best thing against other tanks, especially if it's from an airborne carrier.

>>14293389
I know this is an old question
>>14293902
>has the right answer.
Power armor supported infantry will be a real thing some day, but tanks will never go away. Simply because they make a more cost effective and reliable platform for heavy weapons.

>>14295034
They'll be fucking sweet as shit on the moon too. You could build full on NACF X-1 TSF clones.

Only makes the idea of low gravity colonization more and more attractive.

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