Macross Delta

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>>14267806

>It's a Mirage is useless episode

>>14267924
Shut up, Mirage.

>>14267924
freyjacucks pls go back to /a/

>>14267952
>Mirage = Freya
???

>>14267952

I'm not even taking sides, I'm just frustrated.

Third of the way into the series, she's done nothing remotely worthy of her forebearers.

>>14267987
What did Mylene ever do? She set the prescedent

>>14267956

It's Freyja, not Freya.

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>>14267806
>The one good song this show has going for it is blatantly plagiarized from a 70's band

Can't say I'm surprised.

>>14267987
Give it some time

>>14268016
There's like at least like four good songs

>>14268045
So you're saying Mirage could pull a Gamlin? I hope so.

>>14268054
Actually yes. But what I'm saying is that there's a lot of other stuff going on right now and I'm sure Mirage will be gotten to in time. I think it might be fair to start complaining if it's like episode 14 or 15 and she hasn't gotten anything.

Also, it's not like Mylene ever did shit

>>14268060
Uhhh she sang Holy Lonely Night by herself once I think. And then there was that episode with the little orphan boy and uh...

>Keith literally says the same line to Messer that Milia once said to Max
>retardfags insist Miraho and Hayate are 'parallels' to Milia and Max

I wish Keith had been female to get real parallels.

>>14268060
Well, she was Fire Bomber's sound energy backup generator whenever Basara was KO'd.

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>>14268428
>two sets of character can't have similarities to the same two other character, even if they objectively do

>>14268438
But not nearly as strong and very rarely got much accomplished until Basara got his shit together or she contributed to Basara getting it together

>>14267806
>Messer getting a bit of backstory and character development
>Hayate getting gud at dogfighting
>Cool dogfights in general
>Glasses-kun showing up
>Freyja showing the power of Walküre's song
That was a good episode.

>>14268016
this meme needs to die

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So what the fuck is Hayate's necklace anyway?

>>14267806
What's the deal with Mikumo anyway?

>>14267991
I read that as "She set the prepubescent"

>>14268644
>What's the deal with Mikumo anyway?
SHINPI

>>14268644
>What's the deal with Mikumo anyway?

Cryptic just for the sake of it. If there is a genuine plot twist tied to her, it's not going to be terribly interesting.

Reminder that Mikumo likes to get drunk and run around naked whenever they visit a new planet.

>>14268838
How has the paparazzi not ruined her career yet?

Or maybe her career was built on this, I dunno.

>>14268611
Fold quartz.

>>14268685
>Cryptic just for the sake of it
Or is actually plot important. I do not even think she knows what she is

>>14267987
Well the story has so far focused itself on Freya finding her path and Hayate becomming a pilot. Both of those set ups are now over and Mirage will probably get her turn now.

To be fair her character was not needed for Freya and Hayate's arcs so far (atleast no more than we got to see of her). Now that everyone has settled into their roles we can start developing the actual cast.

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>Windmere attempts to trap Mikumo by baiting a wooden cage with a bowl of delicious ramen
>they accidentally catch a different mysterious idol

>>14268848
That's just what people like about her.

good ep. I like that Bogue git knocked a peg down. nd nxt appears to be a Messer episode, cant wait to get some backstory

>>14267806

so commander guy said if 'he' saw hayate now he'd be proud

so who is he secretly related to?

can't be alto, it hasn't been long enough

>inb4 its basara

>>14268559
https://soundcloud.com/robkta/earth-windermere-and-fire-macross-delta-x-earth-wind-and-fire-micro-mashup-just-for-fun

>ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE

>>14269031
Technically I think the real translation of that line was "he resembles that person" but I think it was pretty obvious he was talking about his dad.

My guess? Isamu. I mean, why the fuck not

>>14269067
Or Guld.
Whoever impregnated Myung first.

>>14269089
>Or Guld.
I don't see pointy ears so no

>>14269067

Or more likely, none of them. He's too old to be Alto's kid, Hikaru disappeared long ago and Basara just isn't in to sex enough to procreate. They all hung around on the other side of a different galaxy too. More likely his dad is just some guy Arad used to know and lost in the war with Windermere.

>>14269031
Hayate Immelman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immelmann_turn
Invented by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Immelmann
Hayate is Max's progeny. We see Max doesn't age normally in 7. Kawamori is playing the incest card.

Hayate should have shot Bogue down.

The triangle is broken because there isn't a love triangle in this series. There are only power couples.

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>>14268885
Hi /@/
Afterwards they try with some onigiri

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>>14269285
More like specifically nobody is in love yet.

Pretty sure this is going to be a pair though

Can anyone point me to a full version of the opening?

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Damn it, [gg].

>>14269285
>>14269362
Guess Kawamori might have taken things too far in the opposite direction.

>>14267987
Well honestly presentday Kawamori isn't that good with doing actiongirls. And the original show despite his creation was a collaborative effort that saw more influence from other creators with him as a minority partner in many ways. Basically you set yourself up for hating the show with expectations that Kawamori as a creator could never fulfill.

>>14269404
Not really. It's just 7 levels of "there's more important things going on right now".

>>14269430
>presentday Kawamori isn't that good with doing actiongirls
On the contrary, I think he's a little too into it

>>14269388
Your screencap is missing the "bravely turned tail and fled." But yeah, gg also managed to fit in "only a flesh wound."

>>14269154
>Hayate is Max's progeny. We see Max doesn't age normally in 7. Kawamori is playing the incest card.

Don't get my hopes up

>>14268428
>implying Kawamori gives a shit about gender
This is the same madman that has two series that are basically a lover's quarrel between two gay angels and the main character is a dog who wants to fuck his owner's mistress.

>>14268060
She made two kills in a VF-1 she tanked a missile spam in her VF-11. She helped create a protodelvin dragon by singing to it.

Does this woman exist or is she a hard light construct? Why is she glowing? What is the stupid shit in her hair? What alien race is she? Who is fighting who and why? Why is there no Macross? What is the relationship between the good guy military and the Idolmaster girls? What is up with the ewoks in episode 7?
Why do people have glowing shit in their hair?

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON.
THIS IS THE GAYEST SHIT I HAVE SEEN IN MY LIFE.

>>14270355
It's fold waves, ain't gonna explain shit.

>>14269042
>The WOWOWOW part is the only part that could possibly be called a ripoff
>the song as a whole is plagiarized
lmao

>>14270355
>I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON.
>THIS IS THE GAYEST SHIT I HAVE SEEN IN MY LIFE.
Welcome to Walkure world.

>>14270455
>

not him but if you can't hear the similarities you need a new pair of ears

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>>14267806
>Not using pic related
Also, does anybody have a better screencap of Hayate's Siegy doing the Psycoframe/Nirvash Spec V-3 dance? I need it for shenanigans.

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>>14270355
I'm assuming you're talking about this? >>14270358
>Does this woman exist or is she a hard light construct? Why is she glowing?
Fold magic and shit
>What is the stupid shit in her hair? What alien race is she? Who is fighting who and why?
These are all answered quite frequently in the show
>Why is there no Macross?
There is, it just hasn't needed to launch yet, pic related
>What is the relationship between the good guy military and the Idolmaster girls?
Walkure is the singing unit that is part of their military
>What is up with the ewoks in episode 7?
Another alien race.
>Why do people have glowing shit in their hair?
It's a Windermere thing in general.

I mean I'd accuse you of not watching the show but then you brought up episode 7

>>14267991
>dakedo baby, my friends

>>14269260
now though he is stranded in ANGRY CATGIRL LAND

can his hatred of cute things that aren't planes, small boys or cute bishies help him survive

>>14270699
>stranded
I'm pretty sure the other knights are still there

>>14270708
The entire planet is still theirs, Walkure only un-var'd Messer and Larrazábal.

>>14270520
not him but what he mean is that the similarities are only for like few seconds (the WOWOW part).
That does not constitute the whole song is plagiarized.

>>14270355
Troll harder faggot.

>>14270712
>un-var'd Messer

not quite.

>>14270712
>un-var'd Messer
He's still got it, though he's controlling it by sheer willpower.

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ON THE EDGE

>>14270774
9 out of 10, in that particular scene he's asking to be taken off duty or be discharged from Chaos

>>14270774
>>14270778
>ON THE EDGE
Considering his Var-induced PTSD breakdown, I'm thinking we may see some history for Reaper next week.
I wonder if it involves a certain female Osean fighter pilot

>>14270780
well its not like they can gloss over it if it's the focus of the episode

>>14270802
I have to say though, it's funny to see the usually emotionless Messer going ALOHA SNACKBAR with a rifle.
And then you remember he has terrible trigger discipline in episode 7.

>>14270778
Pretty sure this is supposed to be a flashback episode

>>14270778
Messer won't request to be discharged. They're in a middle of a war and he can't simply resign especially when he's their best pilot.

>>14270805
he's obviously got something in his past, and he's all uptight because of it. and the trigger discipline is due to jap animators not being good with animating people holding guns

>>14270829
When he's a Var liability?

>>14270835
>the trigger discipline is due to jap animators not being good with animating people holding guns
I would like to refute that with this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7HPyUcy37I

>>14270838
The least they can do to him is keep him in a containment facility, but they won't allow him to get off. After all, if he's a Var liability, he'll go killing more people outside, than inside Chaos where they can keep him under surveillance.

>>14270843
Anecdotal. Or are you saying the same exactly people are behind both

>>14270843
>I would like to refute that with this video.
Is it really hard to imagine that a studio nowadays with a completely different manner of animating and completely different style and talent pool on a really low TV budget (at least it looks like it) would not have exactly the same level of animation as a studio from 21 years ago on an OVA budget and schedule?

>>14270843
I'm not saying they're gonna let him go. I'm saying that's gonna be what he thinks will be best. He'll insist that he's a liability and that he can't be trusted.

Also, its not like chaos rounds up every Var victim and keeps them under tabs

>>14270848
Yeah, I guess my argument is that Japanese animators are diversified as far as proper trigger discipline is concerned.
Then again, I kinda remember Sabageibu and Upotte alongside Gunsmith Cats, and I remember how they at least made an effort to show proper weapon handling and trigger discipline.

>>14270857
>#NotAllJapanimators

>>14270854
True. I guess I forgot his personal thoughts on the matter.

On another note, he didn't eat any of those apples in ep 7 right? I wonder how he got the Var.
>>14270858
Oi.

>>14270851
I dunno, man, it's probably just me. How much was Sabagebu's budget again?

>>14270861
He was in the miltary.

The apples and water are used in the military.

Do the math

>>14270875
Well, I was under the impression that the apples-and-water solution wasn't the only thing Winderemereans used, based on what they were saying in ep 7. I guess I misinterpreted that part.

>>14270868
I don't know either, was Sabagebu made by an entirely different studio with different animators?

>>14270880
You're a witty Winderemerean I'll give ya that m8

>>14269362
she'll end up with whoever emerges alive between Arad and Messer

>>14270355

It would probably help if you actually watched any of the preceding episodes.

> Does this woman exist or is she a hard light construct? Why is she glowing?

Holoclothes. Macross has had the technology for a while to have wearable technology that projects holographic clothes on top of what you are actually wearing. They look detailed, but since they are actually made of light the person using them seems to glow. Its basically just used by stage performers, its not stealthy at all.

> What is the stupid shit in her hair? What alien race is she?
> Why do people have glowing shit in their hair?

She is a Windemeren, and that thing in her hair is something that Windemerens have called a Rune. It seems to be some kind of subspace antenna. Side note: Windemerens are significantly faster and stronger than humans, but their biology craps out young and they don't tend to live much past 30.

> Who is fighting who and why?

Windemere has a manifest destiny boner and wants to be in charge, rejecting the Earth-based human government and attempting to carve out their own part of the galaxy. They are super assmad about the fact that we have better stuff than them, rule the galaxy, and live longer than they do. Also they think we bombed one of their cities.

> Why is there no Macross?

There is one, the Macross Elysium was just in orbit.

> What is the relationship between the good guy military and the Idolmaster girls?

Windemere knows it can't win a conventional war, so it is exploiting protoculture relics as a crude form of wind control. These days they can trake control of enemy forces and make them fight their friends using actual tactics and such, but the first dozen or so tests of this weapon could only apply very simply commands to a limited number of targets. The NUN thought it was some kind of disease making people go ragemode, and the Idols have the ability to snap them out of it. The military defends them while they do it.

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im watching the orinal macross series right now
and holy fucking shit why is Minmei the worst girl?

>>14271127
> as a crude form of wind control

Mind control, rather. God damn Windemere and their wind-everything.

>>14271127
>There is one, the Macross Elysium was just in orbit.
Actually, that's the Aether. The Elysion hasn't launched yet, though thanks to toys, we know it probably will eventually

>>14271143
>and holy fucking shit why is Minmei the worst girl?
She really is.

>>14271143
Character misa >> minmay
Design minmay >>>> misa

>>14271184
>Design minmay >>>> misa
But that's wrong

>>14271143
That's why DYRL is superior
- only keep Minmei's good scenes
- cut down the amount of time with Hikaru being indecisive
- cut down the scenes with Kaifun being a dick

The only downside to DYRL is that it also cuts down the scenes for side characters like Max/Milia and Focker/Claire.

>>14271184
Millia>>>>both

>>14271216
ultimate truth

>>14270885
Also, you shouldn't forget that the guns and the shooting of guns played a much larger role in Sabagebu than they do in Delta. Animating the guns with proper trigger discipline and weapon handling is simply not their priority.
The art style and backgrounds were also a lot simpler, and it was a manga adaptation as well as being 1 cour.
When Macross Delta becomes less of a story-driven series featuring transformable jet planes and becomes a gun-play focused series, then you can make comparisons.

>>14270774
Flashback

Asking to be taken off duty
(No one is going to allow him to leave it, but they can't do anything for him either. Only his willpower keeps Var limited.)

>>14270780
>I wonder if it involves a certain female Osean fighter pilot
I think it might involve a female love interest or a brother figure.

>>14271216
I.. I cannot argue.

>>14271397
>but they can't do anything for him either.
Or CAN'T they?

>>14271447
They can kill him since songs don't help or keep imprisoned.

>>14271216
this man gets it

>>14271482
They'll scream "LISTEN TO MY SONG" at him until he gets better.

They'll just sing to him until he gets better like what always happens. I'd guess his PTSD is probably what's keeping the Var there

Delta has gone any better since ep1 or has gone worse?

>>14271715
No it stayed the same: absolutely great.

>>14271725
>No it stayed the same

So it's still shit, thanks that's all I needed to know

>>14271742
>So it's still shit
Silly shitposter, I said it is still great, can't you read?

>>14271715
>>14271742
>asks other anon's opinion on how the show is doing
>considers it shit regardless
Fuck off and kill yourself you shitposting faggot.
>

>>14271767
>>14271758
Wow Macrossfags sure are insecure

>>14271778
AND

>>14271778
Says the faggot who cannot stand the sight of girls singing in his manly robot cartoon

>>14271790
WE

>>14271797
AT

>>14271799
ROBOTECHX.COM

>>14271802
ARE

>>14271806
LAUGHING

>>14271802
>ROBOTECHX.COM

I wouldn't send my worst enemy in that cesspool.

>>14271818
Unless he's a disgusting Robofag.

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>>14271778

>>14271184
> Character misa >> minmay
> Design minmay >>>> misa

and

Design & character Sheryl >>>>>>>>>>>>> Misa and Minmey.

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Best Walkure

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>>14271843
Now let's be fair, I would put my dick in Misa's cinnamon roll hair loopies

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>>14271802
>>14271818
Welp, pack it in everyone, we've got our answer. The reason they never repaired it was because the spaceship didn't come with a replacement canopy!

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>>14271860
That's a funny way of saying Freyja.

>>14271874

He's not wrong,so I've no idea what your sarcasm is about. The Zentradi had no way of repairing stuff themselves and relied on machines to do it. I don't know why he felt the need to make the Honda analogy, but the main point is correct.

>>14271905

The honda analogy seems to imply that the Zentradi only cannot repair due to lack of parts available to do so. Replacing a rear view mirror is actually really easy, we are talking like 2 screws here. You don't have to go to autozone and have them do it for you. Nothing about this is complicated, and people do it all the time.

I'm not entirely sure what he was going for, but he either missed the point and attributed more skill to the Zentradi than we are told they have, or he chose a poor analogy.

>>14271905
>He's not wrong
The thing never got fixed because the Zentraedi don't know how to fix shit at all and only know the one thing they know how to do. It was a combination funny sight gag and reflective of the Zentraedi behavior.

I don't know what that forum post is talking about but it's retarded

>>14271860
I'm still confused about something, the way you pronounce Walkure is Valkyrie right?

>>14271964
Wa-ru-kyu-rei

It is German for Valkyrie though

>>14271972
It's also a pun for Var-Cure.

>>14271932

He didn't attribute them any skill though, unless you count going to an automated factory and letting them do it for you as a skill I guess. The factory has the replacement part (or the materials to make it most likely) as well as the process needed to do the replacement. All he said is that when Britai wasn't preoccupied he'd get the ship to such a factory and let them handle it, because even something so simple ulis beyond any Zentradi.

>>14271938

The main point in the quote is that the Zentradi have no repair skills and rely on machines built by someone else to do it for them. The non-quote part is just adding a needless analogy about Ford. The point still remains regardless of it.

>>14271983

I was always under the impression that, given how incredibly highly the Zentradi valued the human's ability to repair shit, taking it back to the factory wasn't an option.

The factory builds new ships. It doesn't repair existing ships. Maybe it could, but the Zentradi don't know how to make that happen.

Every Zentradi battleship gets used until it breaks down. You just keep accumulating damage until, eventually, your ship takes one hit too many and kaputs. Which is a real problem, because the same factory sat that makes new ships ALSO grows new clones to staff those ships. In effect, every ship already comes with a crew.

If the powerplant on your ship gets damages and your ship loses power, if you are lucky there are other ships in your current battlegroup that have vacancy and can take on your crew as reinforcements. Otherwise, the Zentradi just leave you to die. Its easier for them to just order new Zentradi from the factory that it is to try and save you. Their entire military strategy treats Zentradi as expendable, after all.

THAT is why Britai is so obsessed with learning how the humans repaired the ship. Under those conditions, any kind of repair technology means the difference between life and death for millions of Zentran at a time.

SO DID HIKARU AND MISA END UP TOGETHER?
i need to know it now /m/

>>14270774
OF THE CRATER

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>>14272081
Yes. They even had a daughter

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>>14272102
thanks anon you made my day
i fucking couldnt stand Minmei when she came back to Hikaru at the end
FINALLY i found a anime where the best girl won

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>>14272161
>when she came back to Hikaru at the end
But they parted ways at the end.

>>14272102
Macross Graffitti may have been retconned out due to the New Era Calendar and they were with the Jenius family.

>>14272475
May have doesn't mean "definitely has".

And honestly there's no reason to think that they didn't have a kid

>>14272503
No mention in Macross Chronicle though.

So it seems pretty obvious that Hayate's dad died while serving in NUNS right? It seemed like that's why the catboy ace being mind-controlled affected him so much.

Freyja made a good point with the apples, I thought. You're growing food on a cold, wintery planet and then sending it out into the galaxy not to make money but as a bioweapon. Isn't that a huge waste of resources that Windemerens could use more for themselves?

It sounded like the Dimensional rift on Windemere is only contained, and might even be spreading, since the Knights don't consider Windemere to be theirs yet.

If Freyja's people only live until 30, doesn't that make her functionally older than Mirage and thus 90% more likely to win the Hayatebowl than Mirage?

>>14271995
>>14271983
This makes no sense at all. Britai was at fleet headquarters and there was no way he could get it repaired at the main base for the Boddolza fleet? It's pretty clear that nothing gets repaired, it's all just replaced when it wears out/gets destroyed. I mean, we saw tons of supplies loaded on to Laplamiz's ships, but what were they aside from munitions and food?

>Bogue shit talking Freyja for not being able to control her rune

Hypocritical fuccboi.

Also HYPER WIND DRIFTING was awesome.

>>14272541
>You're growing food on a cold, wintery planet and then sending it out into the galaxy not to make money but as a bioweapon. Isn't that a huge waste of resources that Windemerens could use more for themselves?
They are making money. It's just that the product also turns you into a zombie if and when the Aerial Knights choose. Freyja was talking about muh feels, as in, "How could you turn the pride and joy of our planet into such a despicable weapon unbeknownst to even the citizens who so lovingly grew them to see people's happiness?"

>If Freyja's people only live until 30, doesn't that make her functionally older than Mirage and thus 90% more likely to win the Hayatebowl than Mirage?
No, their lifespan isn't drawn out until they're older. So if she was a 26 year old that looked like she was 40, she would have the advantage over 30 year olds. But she hardly looks older than her age at all, if any, so she's counted at her real age. My dad is Kawamori and he works at Macross so you can trust me on these 100% official facts.

>>14272541
>If Freyja's people only live until 30, doesn't that make her functionally older than Mirage and thus 90% more likely to win the Hayatebowl than Mirage?
People seem to not be getting how that works considering how I've heard the same thought. They age like regular people until the start getting closer to 30 and then their bodies start aging. But that doesn't make them mentally older. Also I think it's important that they are like that because a lot of Windermere's thoughts are sort of childish and riding into a conflict

>>14271514
Someone gloomy like Messer needs different types of songs. They'll need to sing Cradle of Filth.

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>Dynamite 7
>Basara goes on an adventure on a pretty alien planet, with a cute Mylene clone and a Moby Dick plot BUT IN SPACE
>meanwhile, Mylene gets fucking date raped by a lesbian back in City 7
>just as they're in bed the show goes "BORED NOW, here's the rest of the episode for Basara to find by epiphany a solution to his current problems (spoiler: singing at them)"
What the fucking hell, Kawamori?

>>14272551
The supplies were clearly munitions and food only.

Considering that the zentradi's size requires them to eat a lot, a lot of supplies being food makes sense.

>>14273399
>a cute Mylene clone
That's insulting to SUGOOOOIIII girl, whatever her name was. No one deserves being likened to Mylene.

When can we expect for some of the songs featured in this series to come out? Most notably "Silent Hacker" and that song that ended Ep 8?

Has the "Mikumo is a Protodeviln fold vampire" theory already been posited?

>>14273491
Yes.
She's Sivil's daughter, conceived entirely by Basara's rock and roll energy beam.

>>14273399
Girls can't rape girls

>>14273507
Basically what I had in mind watching Delta.

>>14273399
The next episode shows her being saved.

Apparently the rapist stood there off screen looking at her for like a whole day.

How do we rank the non Max/Milia pilots? Best to least best?

>>14273518
They let her rape Mylene in the manga

>>14273524
Below Max is probably a tie between Isamu and Basara. Then we get to the "decent pilots" like Hikaru, Alto, and Shin.

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>>14273510

Not Delta related but hey, it's a Macross thread. Just started Triangle Frontier. When do I get the VF-171 for general use?

>>14273599
When you start Frontier.

Its a freebie. But you can only use it freely regardless of era after you unlock the cross era thing.

>>14273554
Probably something like

Max
Milia
Basara
Isamu
Ivanov
Guld
Roy
Gamlin
Nora
Ozma
Alto
Hikaru
Klan Klang
Michael
Ray
Shin
Luca
Mylene
Kakizaki

>>14273607
Fuck, figures. Still, that's something to look forward to. Please don't tell I have to play chronologically from Zero through 7.

>>14273611
Wh-what about Kinryu?

>>14273617
KINRYUUU-TAAIIIIIIII

>>14273613
Not really. You can start from Frontier if you go to the era menu and choose it from there.

But playing it chronologically is fun on its own as well.

Early on the VFs start with utterly shit stats.
As you progress, their stock stats get better. Then you get to Plus, where you get to choose the between YF-19 or YF-21, which has pretty damn good stock stats. Then the VF-25 in Frontier comes in.

>>14273632
True, true. It would be nice to just go back through all the different series. Now I just have to rebind my PPSSPP controls.

>>14273642
The most OP VF is from Zero, by the way.

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>>14273518
FUCK YEAH VEFFIDAS
Best girl.

>>14273617
Fuck, I knew I forgot someone, somewhere around Michael?

>>14273611
What about Docker and Liza?

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>>14273712
They're both around Luca's level, I'd say.

And Chlore should be up high, near Isamu and Ivanov.

I've been enjoying Delta so far and the only Macross related thing that I saw before this was DYRL. I was thinking about watching either 7 or F, which one would you recommend in my situation?

>>14273772
I suggest SDF too since DYRL is not exactly a replacement for it, then Plus, 7 and the others.
There's not a lot of Macross material to begin with, you can watch all without worrying too much.

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>>14273642
Have fun.

Here, have a maxed out 171 in Delta's color scheme(As close as I can make it anyway)

>>14273836
Is having a custom pilot worth it? I couldn't bring myself to go through the VN portion of the game.

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>>14273845
If you do the dating sim part well enough you can make a pilot with pretty good stats and skills. Its about the only way to get a fully maxed out pilot in the game.

Though, you can also just use Max as your pilot.

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The triangle will be solved through Tenchi Ending.

Hayate, Freya, and Mirage all need each other to do their jobs well.

>>14273599
>>14273607
Triangle Frontier is third in a trilogy, right? What about the other games? Are they worth it?

>>14273855
Do text hookers work with PPSSPP, so you can at least OCR the text and identify kanji?

>>14273510
>Girls can't rape girls

Why because they don't have a blood and flesh dick ? Just use a plastic one. Or fingers, they work just as well.

>>14274212
Girls just can't rape in general. They don't have the socioeconomic power to rape.

>>14273836
Righteous. I'm planning on rocking Diamond Force's colors to reclaim the honor of the Nightmare.
>>14274206
I can't read moon so I don't know. I just picked Triangle because it was the latest PSP game so I assumed it had the most units and polished mechanics.

>>14274214
the moment they added the socioeconomic factor to discrimination and rape was the moment everything went to shit, now when a woman sexually assaults a man it's not commonly classified as rape, when a black man discriminates against a white man it's just prejudiced but not racist, as a non white male I have a real problem with this new paradigm

>>14274206
Ultimate Frontier has the Super Dimension Hard mode.

Don't know about Ace Frontier. But Triangle Frontier has more stuff than Ultimate Frontier

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>>14274263

>>14273611
You forgot Brera. He was pretty good.

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>>14272541
Space Lenin Freyja when?

>>14274263
I hope Hayate isn't going to go full Jesus Yamato with his no kill policy.

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>>14272161
Whatever is post episode 27, it's just the network forcing filler on us. Kawamori wanted to end the show at episode 27 when Minmay friendzones Hikaru and he settles with old hag because he accepts she belongs to everyone and cannot have her. Then to try to live up Hikaru's fantasy, she had to be depressed to confuse her gratitude and need of a break with love. She never loved him like that.

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>>14274263
SORA NO MAI

>>14267806
AND WE

>>14274566

ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS

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>>14274477
>>14274566
>>14274755
Shame about that last one though

>>14274778
>778
Shit, man.

>>14274453
Yeah she loved him as a friend.

>>14271981
Fuck how did I not notice this earlier

>>14273544

I don't get why it was included at all. The story was essentially over, the entire OVA was epilogue, so where was Mylene supposed to go from that? There's not enough time left to have anything interesting come off it, even in the manga it'd have to extend a lot to show her reaction to it and how she comes to terms with it. It's pure fan service and very obviously so because of the time constraints.

>>14273728

Chlore is stated to Millia's level though, and her principal rival because of that similarity in skill.

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>>14268964
>nd nxt appears to be a Messer episode, cant wait to get some backstory
Will we finally see why is he such a mess?

>>14274923
>I don't get why it was included at all. The story was essentially over, the entire OVA was epilogue, so where was Mylene supposed to go from that?
You might as well say that for the entirety of every character in Dynamite 7 that isn't Basara

>>14267806
WOW WOOOOW WOOOOW
can't they get sued for using THAT song?

>>14275325

Was any other character given any kind of storyline in Dynamite 7?

>>14275360
Yeah Gamlin.

Said storyline being "look for Basara"

>>14273836
Is this the PSP game? I remember spending days to get max rank in hard difficulty Friendly Fire. I don't even remember what it unlocked.

>>14275357
You're an idiot.

>>14274826
Pretty much. She was a fine character on her own. It's Hikaru's own damn fault he grew obsessed with her while she just saw him as a good friend. The timeskip shit made him a retarded faggot again after he finally gave up his fantasy and grew up.

>>14275574
>She was a fine character on her own.
She was an annoying character on her own. It's just that Hikaru was a dribbling idiot around her so she looked better by comparison

>>14275574
They were both annoying. Hikaru was just that bad that everyone except Kaifun looked better by comparison.
I cut Minmay some slag due to being younger. Same with Shinji.

>>14275614

Minmei and Hikaru were both 16 in the anime. Hikaru was about 10 months older and approaching 17 by the start of the series, but they were the same age regardless. You can't really cut Minmei slack for beinger younger and thus less responsible and mature when they're both the same age.

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Hikaru wasn't worthy of Minmay but is Hayate worthy of Freyja?

Pretty sure Minmay was supposed to be flighty and stupid on purpose. Hikaru on the other hand is part of the military, there is no excuse for him.

>>14274263
Still get a laugh that the Knights use a hologram to hide the helmets

>>14275986

Holograms fool the wind, which can't tell the difference. It won't let them her itself otherwise.

>>14275986
They probably use holograms so they can see each others runes.

>>14276012
>see each others runes
Lewd.

>>14276012

I wonder do the others make fun of Bogue for not being able to control his rune in fights?

>>14276024
Grow up, Bogue.

>>14276030
One of those old old knights the one that is like 25 or something already makes fun of him for that.

>>14275719
Minmay's story is about her getting over that and becoming a great woman on par of a goddess. You see her looking fine in Flash Back.

>>14276067

Master Hermann is 33 if I recall and he didn't make fun of Bogue, he commented on it in a disapproving manner.

>>14275357
You mean like how FMP got sued for using the A Team theme song?

> ――シリーズの軸になるのは、どんな要素でしょうか。
>安田 「プロトカルチャーの謎に迫る」という部分が、大きなテーマになっています。そこにどのキャラがどう絡んでいくのか。歌手の美雲がずっとミステリアスに描かれていますが、彼女が今後どう行動していくのか。敵側の戦う事情や価値観に、主人公たちがどう接して乗り越え、立ち向かっていくのか。派手な戦闘シーン、歌のライブシーンも見せつつ、青春の成長ストーリーとして楽しく観ていただきたいですね。「一瞬一瞬を大切に、無駄なく生きよう」というテーマもあるので、さまざまなメッセージから何かを感じとってもらえればと。

Delta's theme is of living one's life the fullest. It's a coming of age. Plus about the secrets of protoculture and how the main characters confront their enemies' values with their own.

Doesn't look Mirage is going to win.

>>14276067
In the prequel manga about the Knights, the twins tease him about it.

>>14276088
At least post the translation

>What components will be the focal point of the show? A big theme is 'approaching the mystery of the protoculture'. What characters will that entangle. Mikumo the singer is always being drawn as very mysterious, but how will she act hereafter. The enemy's side circumstances for fighting and their sense of values, how will the main characters come into contact, overcome and oppose them. I would like it very much for the viewer to enjoy it as a coming of age story along with spectacular fight scenes and singing performances. "Treasuring every moment and living life the fullest" is also a message, so there are a lot of messages for you to take from this I feel.

>coming of age

Freyja deflowering Hayate confirmed!

>>14272102
>>14272475
>>14272503
Not him, but is it too much to ask that we see Hikaru and Misa's kid, all grown up and kicking ass in a Valk like dear ol' dad?

>>14276087
Or how Muv Luv got sued for using that Starship Troopers song?

>>14276362
>Hikaru
>Kicking ass

I hated Frontier, but this series is really good.

>>14276453
Or how F91 got sued for using the Imperial March?

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Watching the show made me pull out Triangle Frontier again. And apparently my old save has gotten corrupted and I can not remember where I had it backed up. So the thought of going thought the academy again is draining my will to live. I wish setting up a custom pilot was not so mind numbingly boring.

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These two are gay, right?

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>>14277324
Pretty much

>>14277324
No, they are just kawaii~

>>14276088
>>14276173
Mirage isn't a grown-up either.

>>14277471
She's 18. And she's not in a journey.

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>>14277504
She's in a journey to loosen up and feel the kaze.

>>14276075
Right. SDFM is my favorite anime series ever, and the main reason is Hikaru and Minmay's relationship. They were both idiots, but that's the point. (Misa was an idiot too, just in a quieter way.) It was amazing to watch Hikaru and Minmay grow by bouncing off of each other, how their relationship fueled their pursuits of their respective goals, and then how those different goals drove a wedge between them.

I was much more endeared towards Minmay than I was to Misa, but I thought Misa should've won. Misa didn't have much in her life besides Hikaru, while Minmay had her music.

I only just caught up on Delta now. It's fine, but it feels a little empty. I thought it was going to be Frontier Mk. II, but it's more like 70% M7 and 30% Frontier. It has a pop style more similar to Frontier, but the lackadaisical plot structure reminds me more of M7.

I think the time for this to turn out true has passed, but what would really make me interested is if Freyja turns out to have been a legitimate Windermere spy (think Pacifica Ocean from Metal Gear Solid), and/or Mikumo turns out to be some sort of villain more villainous than Windermere.

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>>14277575
The plot has been on a pretty hard and fast pace though.
Its been very quick in setting up the world so far ( var syndrome happening, tactical sound units, hayate and freya joining walkure, windermere being butthurt about nuking themseleves, and so on), and it hasn't really wasted any time in meaningless fluff episodes. Of course we're only 8 episodes in, so the pacing might slow down in the future, but so far its been very focused.

>>14267806
I dont give a shit about macross but Freyja is cute as fuck and made me want to watch delta

>>14277647
I agree that it's fast-paced, and won't have forty episodes of filler like M7 did. But I feel like things are moving too fast—Freyja goes from dreamer to star by the second episode, whereas I remember Minmay and Ranka going on pretty long journeys before making it big—and the end result gives me the same sense of hollowness I got from M7.

Well, the real reason I'm reminded of M7 is probably just because the ED reminds me of M7's second ED. Freyja and Mylene have this similar spunk.

>>14277709
>Freyja goes from dreamer to star by the second episode, whereas I remember Minmay and Ranka going on pretty long journeys before making it big
Well, Freyja isn't becoming a normal idol like Ranka or Minmay.

She's joining a military unit.

>>14271216

I would culture her, if you know what I mean.

>>14277729

She also isn't really a star. People know her, but it's never suggested that they care foe her specifically. She's also still learning from episode two to currently at episode eight.

>>14271972
With ä it should be more like Wealkure to be German. And northern pronunciation differs from southern or Bavarian. And let's not start on on swiss variations.
Acceptable version? Mimic Bogue and you are golden.
>>14272585
It was nice seing him getting that pretty ass kicked. Hayate managed to outfly three of Knights so far, not bad.
>drifting
Dancing. I want a duet of him and Alto. Not necesarly in show, short like All those valkiries would suffice.

>>14277324
No, they aren't, confirmed by their character profiles. It's just yuribait.

>>14277709
Well as others have said this isn't about the same kind of rising idol in the sense that they are trying to become more famous in showbiz and rise through music charts, it's about a newbie joining a galaxy-famous singing unit of a military unit. You can't look at Freyja's journey the same way as Minmay and Ranka because it is not even the same situation of a rising star

>>14273507
We can only hope.
And considering how she acts and whole dancing in the moonlight, this is actually more than plausible.
>>14273611
Nora was good but she lacked situational awareness. Good for glorious duels.
Also, Shinn should be higher, by the end of Delta he pretty much outflown her.
Ozma is said to be able to keep up with Isamu and Isamu himself is probably best combat pilot in the franchise after Jeniuses. Alive, that is.
>>14273613
>not flying with Tomcat everywhere.
Weak.

>>14275418
Yeah. Another fun title is macross 30 for ps3 - same dev, same core gameplay but with free roaming and better flight model.
Also, YSFlight with VFX pack.

>>14275700
They are adorable together but they work iut better as siblings. Mirage as well actually, of the aloof big sis variety.
>>14276030
Master Herman and twins i think.
>>14276032
GO TO HELL!
>>14277504
Her arc will be about being her own person, not THE Jenius. That's a lot growing up.

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>>14277882
>flying with Tomcat everywhere.
Not him, but did you max out the F-14 or MiG-29?

I cheated by buying tune points from the shop with massive amount of nyan nyan points I got

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>>14277905
>They are adorable together but they work iut better as siblings.
I see it like this. Ranka basically seemed like Alto's little sister, needing to be coddled and generally wanting Alto to be with her more. The kind of little sister you want to protect. Freyja gives off a little sister vibe too but it's the kind of little sister that can hang out with other people than her onii-chan.

Basically the kind that you want to marry and commit incest with.

>>14277869
>confirmed by their character profiles
How?

>>14277932
It literally says that they are like sisters.

http://www.b-ch.com/contents/feat_creators_selection/backnumber/v32/p02.html

>基本はフレイアとハヤテとミラージュの3人ですが、昼メロのようにドロドロした部分のない、気持ちの良い三角関係を描きたいです。視聴者が「キャラクターを見守っていきたい」と思える恋愛ドラマにしたいですね。

That base is the 3 characters of Freyja, Hayate and Mirage, but there's no muddy melodrama, its a feel good triangle. He wants to make love drama that viewer will think "I wanna watch over that character"

>>14277921
Is there a way to use any of units from Zero in space?

>>14278987
Ew, don't take that as a literal translation of it. I was explaining to some other anon thats what it was talking about.

>>14279012
Well what would be the best translation of it?

>>14279019
Actually nevermind, it pretty much gets it across

>>14270843
I'd like to refute you with this video.
https://youtu.be/tBGV5eZM4UI

Except for the megane who's more of an auditor all soldiers have trigger discipline.

>>14268611
>YFW Hayate necklace is a Sheril earring

>>14279093
Guess he nicked it from alto?

>1クール目の締めに向かって盛り上がっていきます。次第に敵の攻撃も激しくなって
>主人公側が追いこまれていく中で、どう立ち向かっていくのか。
>物語的にスピードアップしていきつつ、だが単純に終わらない物語がこの後も待っている……
>みたいな感じでしょうか。「温泉回」みたいなひと休み話数がまったくないので、
>毎回毎回たっぷり楽しめるかと。もし観返してもらえれば、どこがどうつながっているのかが
>見えてきますので、そこも楽しんでもらえると。

Enemy attacks will get more fierce. Story will speed up (even more? jesus). Story wont end simply, and there will be more story after this. There aren't any "rest" episode like a hot springs episode or anything like that.

>>14279263
He also says that those who rewatch the series will be able to see how things connect together

Liking the characters more than Frontier's.

>>14279439
Me too. I feel like all the good guys are very likable

>>14279263
>there will be more story after this
OVAs like for 7, possibly?

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Is he some sort of local Char?

>>14279663
I think he means there will be more plot and not any sort of like random SoL episodes

For Triangle Frontier's story mode, are some partners locked to only allow characters from the series? Plus allowed the OCs as partners but with Frontier and Zero I'm on my own and getting my ass kicked. Fuck you Alto.

>>14279510

Bad guys are likable too.

>>14279676
No, there is an actual Char (with the Mask and all) in the manga. He's just male Milia.

>>14279124
The one he lost, I bet.

>>14279855
I don't think so.

Did you accidentally set the partner to not launch with you?

>>14280506
I don't think so? It's weird. Pretty much every series I can sortie with a partner no problem. Oh well, I'll just have to fiddle with it a bit.

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>>14279928

>>14280551
Found the retard.

>>14280515
What does your partner screen look like?

Post a screenshot

>>14280933
No, I'm just retarded. Had the spare pilot as my support fml.

>>14279263
I hope Mirage gets some development other than failing and dying.

>>14278987
>"I wanna watch over that character"
Freyja end confirmed.

>>14274477
Could Alto be Hayate's dad after traveling back in time thanks to Vajra Fold shenanigans?

>>14275674
Wasn't Misa like 27? How do they get over that age gap?

>>14280968
Does anyone even want Mirage to win?

>>14280971
In actuality his dad is Aegis Focker.

>>14280976
I recall Misa was 19 in SDF and 20 in DYRL.

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>they catch you masturbating

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>>14274957

>>14277504
Actually she's shown to be insecure about her piloting and the fact she is such an uptight person. Her Arc will probably deal with breaking free from her family name and learning to enjoy life.

That leaves A LOT of room for developing a character. It's probably why they haven't focused as much on Mirage yet, because her story would conflict with the general setup of Delta that the past 8 episodes has been.

Delta's setup episodes has lend itself well to developing Hayate and Freya's characters, but now that that is done, Delta will probably have time to start doing more with it's remaining cast in the world it has created.

Mirage is on of the main 3 characters, so you can be damn sure they are going to spend a fair amount of time on her eventually. It's just not yet happened because now wasn't the time for that.

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>>14281330
>>14277504
I like how Mirage, much like her Aunt Mylene, didn't fully inherit the Jenius genes.
It makes her more likeable as a character because she's not HURRDURR NATURAL GENIUS ACE and all.

>>14281337
That just proves that she and Mylene are inferior.

Meltrandi generations before her were perfectly good pilots, she and Mylene are just shit.

>>14281354
Not to sound overbearing about it, but I guess you have a point. They did come out of a fusion between human genes and genes that were purpose-built for war.

>>14281354
She's only part Zentradi.

>>14281354
Its not like she's a shittty pilot anyways.
She was good enough to get picked up by Walkure, she's just not Milia-tier top gun hotshot, but no one else in Macross is except for Max.

>>14281337
>>14281330
I agree. I personally like these kind of characters that have to fight to against expectations set on them since birth.

In Mirage's case it looks like she'll end up having to let go of her stuck up personality and I'm looking forward to her becoming more care free or atleast learn to enjoy herself.
I think that it'll be tie to her falling for Hayate and him teaching her to be more relaxed and care less about what people think of her piloting and the fact she is a MUH-Jenius (coincidentally that will actually make her fly better making her actually live up to the name).

It's the reason I'm more inclined to thinking Mirage will win the hayate-bowl. Mirage needs Hayate more as a life/love partner for her character to develop, while Freya needs Hayate more as a guardian/older borther character for her character to develop. (I'm just talking "story" wise here not what characters will actually feel). As much as I like Freya, her character can reach the end with a big smile on her own, she doesn't need Hayate for that. Mirage on the other hand will not be able to go on like this on her own.

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>>14281378
>As much as I like Freya, her character can reach the end with a big smile on her own,
then ten years later she will look like this and wonder why she missed her chance

Episode titles

0話閃光のAXIA
11話追憶 ジェリーフィッシュ
12話キング・オブ・ザ・ウィンド
13話激情 ダイビング

10. The Flash of Axia
11. Jellyfish Reminiscences
12. King of the Wind
13. Diving Passion/Fury (?)

>>14281594
Cute.

>>14281594
Hey to be fair that's the way her species works.

But like I said I was just aproaching this from a narative point. The series wont end with a 30+ Freya about to die from "old" age wondering if things could have been different while we see Hayate be happy with whomever else.

>>14281598
>11. Jellyfish Reminiscences
So the bridge bunny was indeed mind-controlled by the jellyfish.

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>>14281663
Best bridge bunny

>>14281668
:3 faces are the worst thing ever

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>>14281671
tasteless faggot

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>>14281668
So green is squid bunny. Orange is hat and chest mercat bunny.

What's purple? Big tits bunny?

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Hayate and Mirage conspiring to hide a secret that Messer has Var syndrome
Freyja gets upset that they're spending time together at all.

メッサーが今までずっと恐怖と隣り合わせで戦っていたことを知り、戸惑いを隠せないハヤテとミラージュ。秘密を知ってしまった者同士、二人の距離はおのずと近づいていく。フレイアはそんなハヤテとミラージュの様子を目にして、そわそわと落ち着かない。

脚本:根元歳三/絵コンテ:島津裕行/演出:矢吹勉/総作画監督:まじろ、長田好弘/作画監督:田中克憲、吉田巧介

>>14281709
Mirage and Hayate are unable to hide their bewilderment after learning that Messar has constantly been fighting up to this point while under terror. Having learned this secret between the two, they grow closer. Freyja witnesses this state of affairs between Hayate and Mirage and feels uneasy

>>14281709
>Triangle forms because of Messer
Ayyyy

>>14281709
I'm a Miragefag, but I don't think there's gonna be any romantic situation between Hayate and Mirage just yet and Freyja is probably just felt suspicious/left out seeing them spend more time together.

>>14281743
I'm a Freyjafag, and I just never felt much hope for the HayaFre ship to begin with. She's the young girl. She's the newly discovered song talent. Those types of people have terrible track records in macross.

We've heard many times that show wont really focus on the triangle to begin with, so maybe Mirage won't even win either. In the end I just want them all happy

>>14271860
How the fuck do they do that with their fingers?
Do they fucking dislocate their fingers every time they do that stupid ass sign?

>>14281764
Lot's of anons can do it. Hell, May'n amd other seiyuu's have posted photos on their twitter and blogs. It's not that hard to arrange fingers like that thou it is to do it unassisted.

>>14281764
Middle finger over your ring finger.

Your only excuse if you can't do it is you having fat fingers

>>14281709
>Messer brings his subordinates together completely by accident

>>14281781

That or less dexterity and joint agility than some other anons. Fatness has less to do with it than how supple and dexterous your hands are.

>>14281709
>>14281712
>Freyja gets upset that they're spending time together at all.
>Freyja witnesses this state of affairs between Hayate and Mirage and feels uneasy
It's finally starting i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1_QwGn7VXM

>>14282713
I hate this.

>>14282735
HE HATES IT

>>14283333
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>>14281337
Actually Mylene is a pretty good pilot when she fights.