60's /m/ deserves more love.

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>>14159191
I won't watch raw or shittily-dubbed anime so I've never seen one from the 60's

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>>14159230
60's dubbing probably sounds better than modern dubs, to be honest

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvfQWOFzK3s

>>14159247
Ultraman's was pretty enjoyable, though it's a shame that it's not ripped anywhere.

>>14159332
That is rather odd considering the DVD's are like 10 dollars with the dub modified to use subs and jap audio in the parts that were cut out for it.

>>14159247
Because a good dub is a once in awhile thing, no matter the era

>>14159191
BDrips when? Full subs when?

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>>14159332
I own the first season that I picked up for like 5 bucks. The episode with the re-used Godzilla suit that's about to fall apart was pretty funny.

>>14159388
We probably have 2 years left until it's fully subbed.

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Discotek did the sequel OVA to Eightman, I wonder if they'd do they original series?

Some 60's /m/ anime with their OPs

Eightman - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE6V_PLn2IU

Big X - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNa_cJA7wN8

Cyborg 009 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U97ZXoqdopg

King Kong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAWmRZZc1YA

Mach GoGoGo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPR45cBkRq4

Super Jetter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTI3eO735MQ

Ougon Bat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvfQWOFzK3s

Rainbow Sentai Robin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQCRfWqvGK0

Tetsujin 28 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNp3JP51A_I

Astro Boy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGq6z1mEU9Q

Uchuu Ace - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV8U2gaUTpY

Yuusei Shounen Papii - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbXt9eZsj34

Yuusei Kamen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeV2_nHsVSQ

Wonder 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDYhmb1bKds

Uchuu Shounen Soran - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TZY9IhuHoo

>>14160487
After seeing lewd fanart of the lady in that show I've wanted to watch it.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/542902?tags=60s

>>14160540
>uno makoto

where is her dick

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>>14162997
Good question, lad.

>>14163023
You know nothing

>>14159191

Black Android Lives Matter?

>>14163082
To be honest, his design is peak innocence on Ishinomori's part. In the Cyborg 009 vs Devilma OVA the ED shows panels from the manga, and completely avoids showing any of Pyunma
.

>>14163112
No, they still show him but recolor his lips to look like a beard which looks very odd.

>>14163112
How did you fuck up that badly?

>>14163168
What?

>>14163171
Your post, you idiot.

>>14163232
What part, spic?

>>14163324
The gigantic break

>>14163112
Actually Pyunma was shown on the credits, but by the moment his lips are shown, they cut it to the next panel.

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>when your animators can't decide if you have 4 or 5 fingers

>>14159332
Ah, but it is. In fact the dub is the only version I ever found online.

>>14164472
Isn't it just on Hulu though?

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So I watched the only subtitled episode of Tetsujin 28. The animation is pretty hilarious and it's incredible how much the animation in TV anime improved in just a few years later.

Although the animation quality might have more to do with it being a 90+ episode series or maybe Eiken was the JC Staff of the day.

>>14160042
Right Stuf beat them to it with the dub, kind of. In the meantime, Discotek's release of Dororo came out yesterday.

How's the Wild 7 manga? I loved the OVA, it just seemed so crazy. I hear the movie's dumbfun in the same way Gokudo Heiki is.

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>>14166863
For what, the original 8man? I don't see it on their site. I know they pretty much fucked up the chance of us ever seeing Princess Knight subtitled, though.

Also this series looks cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRMLED1chJw

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>>14166873
I don't know, but his women are really plump

>>14166873
There's also a live-action TV show version, though I don't think it's subbed.

>>14166913
>8man
In fairness it is an out-of-print release, although the dub can be watched on YT.

>>14160042
Listening to this song really makes one thing out: there are no choirs or harmonizing anymore.

Also, a thing I read once: much like Gadget from Rescue Rangers and Babs Bunny from Tiny Toons raised a generation of furries (and presumably Judy Hopps will) in the US, Bokko from Wonder 3 apparently did the same in Japan.

That being said, Wonder 3, like pretty much every Tezuka show, is brilliant and enjoyable.

>>14167051
>like pretty much every Tezuka show

Would be cool to see a Tezuka fan actually critical of his work.

>>14167507
And why is that?

>>14167559
Because they think everything he's done is amazing.

>>14167569
Are they wrong?

>>14167786
Yes.

>>14167842
Why?

>>14167569
You know, instead of being an ass you could have just said you disagreed and stated some reasons why.

>>14167854
>>14167877

Please, stop.

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>>14167854
His manga aimed at adults are mostly garbage. Backgrounds tend to be ugly and filled with black chicken scratches everywhere as "detail". The character art is inconsistent, randomly changing between semi-realistic to deformed and cartoony for no reason.

He'll introduce a character to advance a plot point and then when that's done he'll kill them off in the dumbest ways possible. They rely too much on shock factor.

His female characters are all useless idiots.

He gave Dororo a shitty ending.

He was an asshole to his peers who were more talented than him.

>>14167888
It's more entertaining this way. Nice trips, by the way.

>>14167892
Also he's a degenerate furry fucker who fantasized about having sex with a mouse.

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/03/29/daughter-of-osamu-tezuka-god-of-manga-discovers-his-stash-of-hand-drawn-sexy-mouse-artwork/

>>14167920
Then why didn't he draw his self-insert fucking her?

>>14167892
>He gave Dororo a shitty ending.
I'm curious to see how the anime handles this, since the PS2 game had a bunch of demon recolors before the final battle set years later.

>>14167931
Too busy drawing himself as a main character to stroke his ego in Vampires.

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>>14167938
Yeah, I plan on getting the anime when I have the money. From what I've seen, it's a lot better than the manga and has great atmosphere.

>>14167920
I'd be willing to potentially give you the things in your other post, but this one is completely irrelevant.

>>14167920
as If his mangas wasn't a dead give away of his furry fetish

>>14168043
Just because you draw things like cute animals that are popular to kids, doesn't mean you have want to fuck them.

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>>14168161

Daily reminder that it's only bad when furries do it.

:^)

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>>14168199

>>14168199
>Matter

And now we know where Inuyasha got it from.

>>14168201
Well, now I know where that dogfucker webcomic guy got his ideas.

>>14168191
>>14168199
>>14168201
So this means we must hate his work forever! Thanks for showing me the light, reddit! PRAISE KIRITO!

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>>14168191
Something about the animation in that movie made me feel sick.

>>14168199
And like I said earlier, female characters are killed once they've served their purpose too bad since she was interesting too. Also, that chapter was greatly improved in the anime without the dumb scifi shit. The connection with the chapter with the monk girl was cool though, I guess.

>>14168201

Where IS this from anyway?

>>14168257
Something about that ass both turns me on and sickens me

>>14168290
It's a pretty typical look for asses from that era.

>>14168229

Maybe you should check that quote again:

>Just because you draw things like cute animals that are popular to kids, doesn't mean you have want to fuck them.

But fuck it, I don't care. You're an idiot. Up there with most tezukafags.

>>14168375
Not him, but you're posting all that stuff and making a big stink of it as though they were anything more than just drawings. It's pretty silly.

>>14168458
but le furry menace! we arw ligament

>>14168290
The crack is half open.

>>14168369
I know, I'm familiar. It's still a bit magical, is all.

>>14168465

I hope you don't think you're funny.

>>14168967
IWhy try? Butthurt retards stuck in 2007 are funny as fuck already, can't compete really.

>>14168988
>>>/reddit/

Come back when you're 18.

>>14168972

Save your precious words for yourself. Butthurt is precisely what you felt for someone daring to criticize God Almighty Tezuka. He was important for his time but at the end of the day was just an insecure, pretentious jerk. Not very different from you.

>>14169012
Nice assumption.

>>14169012
>someone daring to criticize God Almighty Tezuka.

I would like to point out that nobody got all up in arms on the points brought up about Tezuka that were actual faults he had as an artist and as a person.

>>14168199
That's a dude with a Wolf skin on his face though.

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Well, it was a good thread until that idiot started posting.

So what do we call this guy with a hatred for Tezuka and his fans?

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>>14169407
That's pretty much alive.

>>14170683
Someone with an opinion.

>>14169012
It's pretty funny. You won't find anything critical on his work anywhere. Yet you can find harsh reviews on authors like Ishinomori, Leiji, and Nagai.

There's a level of snobbery when it comes to Tezuka's work because of that "God of manga" title.

Go Nagai fans can admit that all of his works aren't amazing. Ishinomori fans can admit that a lot of his works are pretty same-y. Why not Tezuka?

I read Hi no Tori his so called "masterpiece", and while it had some good chapters, the instant he tried to do something other than a short a simple story it went to shit. Thankfully the anime adapted a lot of these specific chapters and removed the dumb crap out of them.

I currently own Ayako, Swallowing the Earth, and Book of Human Insects from his darker period. Also read MW, that silly homo furry manga, Barbara, and Apollo no Uta.

The only one I don't regret buying is Ayako, and even that has a silly ending that could have been avoided.

Barbara is a manga that abandons its premise halfway through, iirc.

Book of Human Insects is a mean spirited manga with no real point other than getting away with being a dick and licking naked sculptures of your dead mom.

MW is a nonsensical manga that asks the reader to overlook something incredibly obvious on the detective's part to finish the story.

Apollo no Uta could have ended after a couple chapters. Same thing recycled for an entire volume.

Swallowing the Earth should have ended after the guy escaped. Instead it keeps going.

Being a fan of Tezuka prior to this change must have been depressing. Your favorite author repeatedly kicking you in the nuts and kicking sand in your face.

>>14170958
What's the one with the red scarf? I really like that character design.

>>14170958
>Someone with an opinion that he really wants to show at any and all opportunities.
Ftfy

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>>14170975
Sasuke (1968)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcdEhxvQ8M

>>14170958
>There's a level of snobbery when it comes to Tezuka's work because of that "God of manga" title.

I wish more people would know the very interesting story of how that came to be.

>Not too long after, Ishinomori became one of the most requisited artists of the Tokiwa-So building. Dragon Pond had given him great prestige, to where nowadays each reprint is accompanied by an interesting article, published long ago by some manga scholars that tells the origin of the expression “God of Manga”, attributed to Osamu Tezuka. It turns out that at one point, a popular journal of Japan decided to write a story about Shotaro Ishinomori (then Ishimori) and titled it “Shotaro Ishimori, the King of Manga.” Shortly after, Tezuka and Ishinomori met at a party and the first, although a genius artist of his own, was extremely vain and competitive, approached him and said, “Onodera, if you are the king of manga, so tell me, what am I?” It is said that Ishinomori was silent for a moment and then said, “Well … So you must be the God of Manga”!. Tezuka came out visibly pleased with the answer, and the term was used since then to qualify him.

>Go Nagai fans can admit that all of his works aren't amazing. Ishinomori fans can admit that a lot of his works are pretty same-y. Why not Tezuka?

Most Ishinomori's works are not even same-y, it just happens to be the most commercially successful ones. Would be the equivalent of Tezuka's Astro Boy and Kimba for the western audiences. And the Astro Boy manga actually suffered from low sales in the US when it was first released. It was only later that his adult works got him mainstream attention and a Eisner Award. Ironically, now there's a demand for Shigeru Mizuki, the same guy Tezuka accused of having no actual talent, calling his art crude and unappealing. He also said he losing an arm was no excuse as there's no limit for the human spirit or whatever bullshit like that.

>>14170996
Thanks, this looks rad.

Look at the bright side, Tezukafags: even if the shit he made wasn't good, he at least had an actual influence on things, which is more than you can say for people that made garbage and had no influence on anything, like Ishikawa.

>>14171001
>Ironically, now there's a demand for Shigeru Mizuki
Would be nice if his works (aside the original Kitaro manga) and anime adaptations in general got translated, though.

>>14170958
>anime

Come to think of it though, the post that sparked this shitstorm was pretty obviously referring to Tezuka's anime.

>>14171054
>like pretty much every Tezuka show
>show
That's pretty accurate. On that note, non-crabstick subs for Triton when?

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>>14171001
I can practically taste his ego from here.

>the same guy Tezuka accused of having no actual talent

When someone is a better artist than you, you gotta put them down by insulting them.

See >>14167892

Also, the Tezuka works I like:
Hi no Tori: Space
That chapter of Hi no Tori where the girl kills a priest
Ayako (ignoring the ending)
Adachi-ga Hara
Angel no Oka

Tezuka was incredibly flawed and mean-spirited towards his contemporaries. He believed himself to be the intellectual, the classical music counterpoint to the jazz and rock 'n' roll of the artists that came after him. He actually labeled himself as that. In Japan, there's a lot of actual criticism for Tezuka's works coming from big names in the industry like Takao Saito, Miyazaki and others. Even Naoki Urasawa commented on his negative points before, despite the fact he idolized Tezuka himself. In American, however, there's no counterpoint, the Tezuka's fan community is incredibly loud and blindly defends the guy without never considering a second point of view. And then there's people like Fred Schodt and Helen McCarthy who helped to spawn this vision of Tezuka as this absolute genius with no flaws so many people associate him with. And to be honest, I used to be a huge Tezuka's fan myself, but came to a point he started disgusting me and his apologists had a huge role on this process. You can't even talk about classic manga artists without someone bringing Tezuka for comparison and concluding everyone was ripping Tezuka off as he was the only true God among all those commoners. And what's the craziest part in this all? They believe Tezuka got his reputation in Japan for stuff like Black Jack, Adolf or Apollo's Song, when what really made him so influential was New Treasure Island, Lost World and Metropolis. And guess what? All those titles released in the US were critically panned (by anyone who at least bothered reading them, I guess. There's no real manga critics in this country). Not even Tezuka fans care for them.

>>14171088
Nice blog, where can I subscribe?

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>>14171088
Those early works I found decently enjoyable. But it is important to note that they're all riding off the fame of classic movies. Like people giving Tezuka credit for the Metropolis anime when it's not even based on his manga. He claimed he never saw those films before making those manga which is weird. Very informative post, anon.

Ignoring Tezuka, who would you say were influential early mangaka? The ones I know of are:

Go Nagai
Leiji Matsumoto
Shigeru Mizuki
Yokoyama Mitsuteru
Sanpei Shirato
Kuwata Jirou
Shoutarou Ishinomori

>>14171156
Ishikawa Ken Or at least, that's what his retarded fanbase would have you think.

>>14171156
Fujiko F. Fujio, Ikki Kajiwara and Tetsuya Chiba.

>>14171156

Probably someone escaped my mind, but Fujio Akatsuka, Hideko Mizuno, Hiroshi Fujimoto, Motoo Abiko, Tetsuya Chiba, Takao Saito, Keiko Takemiya and Moto Hagio all had their importance and impact.

>>14168201
To me, this will never be worst than [spoilers] the incest planet chapter [spoilers] in Hi no Tori.

In this subject [spoilers] what the fuck with his fixation for incest?![spoilers]

>>14171202

When the edgiest artist were at their peak during the students revolt days in Japan. Tezuka had to prove he could be the edgiest of them all. As a result, he ostracized his own former admirers and at the same failed to get any new readership. He got into depression and started despising his own adult work but Shonen Champion editor was willing to give him another chance and he got back to being a mainstream best seller author with the release of Black Jack.

>>14171202
>failing with the spoilers

Too much time in k fuck my head

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>>14171088
It's not at all surprising that there's a difference between professional manga artists commenting on the work of another and a fanbase with a very pronounced "sekrit klub" mentality.

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>>14171235

>>14170958
I don't know much English criticism of Ishinomori or Leiji online because outside of here they aren't known that well. Unless you meant that one faggot who moaned about NOT MUH ZELDA on Amazon, but when Ishinomori only has three series published in English outside of Comixology criticism's going to be thin on the ground. Nagai's biggest source of criticism IS here, the only stuff you'll get outside that is people getting offended by his sensibilities (so who cares?) or pointing out that the majority of old OVAs based on his work are crap, and they aren't wrong.

Tezuka does gets his dick sucked constantly by casuals who don't actually read his comics and a few semi-professional people, but there's such an abundance of criticism for him in Japan that I think it balances out. Plenty of people there call him out for his pettiness and for Mushi Pro locking the anime industry into the lowest possible cost model it has suffered under ever since, though I don't personally hold him to that. Hanna Barbera was the only name in American TV animation for twenty five years of mediocrity and piss poor standards, and they started off making the best Tom and Jerry shots. Economic realities have always been the bane of creativity in animation. If Tezuka hadn't done it someone else would have, I don't know why Miyazaki thought they'd be any better off if it weren't for Tetsuwan Atom.

>>14171924
You should look up what people think of Violence Jack. They think it's just rape and gore. Lookup ANN's reviews of Mazinger and Cutie Honey calling him sexist.

>>14171924
>for Mushi Pro locking the anime industry into the lowest possible cost model it has suffered under ever since
Which is a bit ironic when you read one of his shorts stories about an animator and his life-like lion.

>>14171935
>paying attention to the Kotaku of Anime

I forgot that fucking Mazinger Z review though, Jesus fuck. Why the hell didn't they just give it to Mike Toole, he's one of the two people with actual talent they employ and he likes old robot shows.

>>14171957
My favorite part
>Why doesn't Mazinger have windshield wipers

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THIS IS A STICKUP

>>14171964
I'm sorry, what?

>>14165281
Fucked if I know m8, streaming services do not count anyway. I have the DVDs, so I haven't bothered to search for Ultraman online since but when I did all I found was a torrent with dub only. It was on Demonoid.com, to give you an idea of how long ago that was.

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>>14172791
There's a part in the review where the reviewer complains about Mazinger not having windshield wipers.

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>>14173047
Ah, I see. I just found and read the review and the accompanying thread.

Perhaps this sounds too harsh, but I hope the author and everyone in that thread dies in a freak fire.

>>14173006
Well that's fortunate, since their Kamen Rider V3 torrent is still there, last I checked. Thanks for the tip.
>full Spectreman dub torrent
This return trip is even better than I expected!

>>14171957
>one of the two people with actual talent they employ
Even then, I don't think Reed Nelson is a regular, either.

>>14173369
Were the recent Lupin III guides the only articles Reed has written for them or are there others?

>>14173393
That's it. The only other things he did was ask a question for the Answerman column and had a participation on the podcast (on behalf of Discotek, of course).

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>>14174822
Where did you get the old 009 anime anon?

>>14173369
Dave Cabrera used to write for ANN too. Might still, I haven't been keeping up.

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>>14174826
https://skarohuntingsociety.wordpress.com/downloads/

>>14174845
Thank you very much anon.

>>14176137

90s anime style was gross.

>>14167569

Not true.

Even Jared Cook and Frederick Schodt, who translated the Phoenix manga in its entirety and fought for it to get published in English for 30 years, admit that the series really isn't worth reading after Resurrection.

>>14176154
That looks like it's from an 80s issue though.

>>14176558
Which one is Resurrection again?

WE

>>14177776

Taken from wiki
>The sixth volume, originally serialized in 1970-1971. The story takes place in 2482-3344 AD. In an age of robotics, technology and science, young Leon dies in a car accident. He is returned to life by scientific surgery, but his now mostly-artificial brain makes him see living things -- including humans -- as distorted clay figures, while he sees machines and robots as beauties. Leon falls in love with a worker robot, Chihiro, whom he sees as a beautiful girl, and will fight for this forbidden love. He will also find out the secret behind his accident. A side plot features the robot Robita, who previously appeared in Future.

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>>14177970
Oh, thought that one was rather mediocre other than being an inspiration for Saya no Uta. The chapter with the space pods was the best.

>>14177864
OBTAINED