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[Manko] Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt - 04 [720p]

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It's time
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English subs where
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>>14147734
They're on nyaa
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ALL GLORY TO MANKO
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT MANKO
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>>14147831
ClasJap should be first to the guillotine. 1. For insulting Manko. 2. For their shit subs.
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I like how they made the Gundam looks mean, despite it still being a RX-78 design
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>>14147886
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>>14147831
Don't put the manko on a pedestal.
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So damn crisp.
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Not to be a stickler, but was OYW era hardware even capable of shooting down anti-MS missiles with machine cannons? Sure, people shoot down missiles all the time from Zeta onward (and especially in CCA), but I didn't think they'd developed it to this degree this early on.
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>>14148062

it is a one off prototype ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>14148062
Nigga before Zeta even happened in Thunderbolt, the Atlas Gundam already fielded an I-Field. That's right, an I-Field for a fucking mobile suit not armor.
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>>14148062
Ohtagaki does whatever he wants without being concerned as to whether it fits into continuity at all (not that it stops Sunrise).
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>>14148120

It's not an I-Field, actually. It was the caviation wave from the railgun.
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>>14148168
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>>14147997
for ants
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Would the complilation movie have the ending this arc had in the manga or going to end just like this.
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This was fun.

Now animate Federation Hooligans
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Pulled a Heavy arms Gundam there.

Katoki wasn't on mech design for this right?
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Fucking Brutal man.
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>filenames aren't identical
God fucking damnit MANKO! Get yer shit in order!
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My jazz will be the last thing you ever hear.
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>>14148461
Katoki adapted the mecha designs for the anime, but they're still largely based on the manga's designs. There are a few bits simplified and proportions changed. He did storyboards for the anime as well.
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>>14148335
I doubt it will have A Bao A Qu. That scene introduces brand new characters
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>>14148468
Yo i never even expected that shit, that was some sicking shit to witness
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>>14148461
>>14148468
how is this canon when amuro have no equipment and crappy jims?
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>>14148537

This anime is basically R rated. I like it.

>>14148556
Late War and it's a reimagination of Feddie forces in a different sector.
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I didn't know the mangaka did a few illustrations for Patlabor. Neat.
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>Be Zeek remnant
>Be a dick and war criminal and not comply with armistice
>Severe lack of resources
>Spend time making logos and T shirts to cheer up an ace cripple

Fucking Zeeks.
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>>14148468
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>>14148603
SAVED

Thanks anon.
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It's kind of hard to get invested in more than the animation when you had like eight minutes of plot/characterization in the whole thing.

Those GMs were hilariously incompetent because of somebody's brilliant idea of "surely we'll get another amuro if we throw enough child soldiers into the grinder". Can't get a break even in the AUs.
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>>14148628
>Those GMs were hilariously incompetent because of somebody's brilliant idea of "surely we'll get another amuro if we throw enough child soldiers into the grinder". Can't get a break even in the AUs.
source?
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>>14148631
Episode 3 where the reinforcements were just freshly trained cadets/ conscripts
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>>14148654
that's not a source, nothing there said anything about "surely we'll get another amuro"
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>>14148659
>"surely we'll get another amuro"

That was just Anon in >>14148628 interpreting the situation
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>>14148659
It's implied since they were part of some newtype institute.
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>>14148401
this guy got the right idea
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>>14148674
No, you misread that line. "There's talk in the Federation that all members of the newtype corps are kid soldiers" is a reference to the White Base and crew, who are officially listed in Federation records as being part of the "13th autonomous corps" and nicknamed the "newtype corps" by the troops because they survived miraculous odds against tough enemies, despite being young and relatively lacking in official training and experience.

As far as I know, the name "13th autonomous corps" and nickname "newtype corps" only comes up in side material such as manga, the MSG novels, MSV, and databooks, and is never referenced in animation. There's the MSG novel page scan that mentions the White base being assigned to the 13th autonomous, and a few other scraps here and there.

>Ctrl+F "13th autonomous"
http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/archive/msv3.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20110629141813/http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/uc/background/glossary_organizations.html#13thautonomouscorps
>An independent subdivision of the Earth Federation's Tianem Fleet, to which the White Base is assigned prior to its return to space. The composition of the 13th Autonomous Corps changes over time, as the White Base sometimes travels by itself, and on other occasions is escorted by a handful of cruisers.

In any case, the page scan dialogue you posted doesn't mean the kids came from a newtype institute. The guy says in the speech bubble that "they are aspiring to be like" the newtype corps, not that they -are- a newtype corps.
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>>14148726 Addendum

http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/archive/gundamcentury.html

I found the source for it. Way back in 1981, Gundam Century was the main databook for MSG and it said the White Base and crew became known as the Federation's "newtype corps".

Now the databook is no longer an authoratative source and some other newtype corps have popped up since then like Kycilia's newtype corps and Glemmy's newtype corps that are better associated with the term.
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>>14148401
I just realised, Is Nama Gundam drawn by the artist of Hooligans and Katana?
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>>14148628
Quite a reversal. We see cadets being given GM Cannons for a backwater unit like Moore Brotherhood, while Zeon Gelgoogs are adequately piloted in Thunderbolt this time round.
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>>14148603
I prefer the manga version though.
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>>14148726
"They're aspiring to be like them"

This supports your argument. Newtype Corps is the White Base crew.
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>>14148556
To me, Thunderbolt is basically Gundam's equivalent of Type Moon's Prisma. There's the basic backdrop of the Grail War, but pretty much its own thing. Same goes for Thunderbolt, don't worry too much about it. The OYW is just the basic backdrop and don't really matter. Just enjoy the cool mecha and music.

The moment you choose to get nitpicky over trivial things like that, you end up becoming like those Type Moon /a/utists who can't seem to enjoy anything.
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>>14148726
>never referenced in animation
did you even watch MSG? they're officially designated as the 13th autonomous corps of the tianem fleet before they leave jaburo with the mission to act independently as a decoy.
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>>14148468
>Bro, hold my gun
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>>14147523
Ah Shiiiiit we gone get fucked up tonight!
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>>14147523
Well damn, that was great but depressing. It was like I was watching a greatly shortened Victory but with added melancholy.

Does the remainder of the manga diverge significantly from animated canon? I already know about Zeon winning or that crazy looking Orbital Gundam, I'm just wondering if there's anything stopping them adapting the rest.
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What is 'December Sky'?
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>>14149372
A film compilation.

Unlike other compilation movies it'll be adding content rather than cutting it.
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>>14149387
Great.
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>>14148468
That Ball holding the gun is cute!CUTE!
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>>14148603
I cheered like a motherfucker when that happened, based Jim.
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I have to ask, where this takes place.

I really like the look of Thunderbolt, but im not very up-to-date with my UC stuff. I've really only seen 08th MS team.
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>>14149469

It's a self contained story that doesn't have links to the main UC continuity, Ohtagaki the writer said he wanted freedom from canon stuff so made it a "UC AU" if that makes any sense.
I like the idea because I don't care about canon as long as the story and animation are entertaining.
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>>14149469
right before abao qu (while io has FA gundam) and then after it (when he has ball gundam)
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How can a heat hawk stop a beam saber? Is there minovsky fuckery involved?
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>>14149650
They did this shit in 0080 too.
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>>14149658
I know, but I've always wondered how it works.
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>>14149700
Anti-beam coating.
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So is this basically what happened in the manga or did it diverge?

Are they going to make more episodes or is the compilation film the end?
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>>14149650
They do that shit all the time. It's just heat v. heat.
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>>14148486
We're doing the BDs when they come out, so it doesn't fucking matter cause the files are getting replaced by BD.
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>>14148120
To be fair, Nuclear bazooka zakus have I-fields and that was before the fucking guntank was invented
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>>14149793
I'm pretty sure that's all that's been confirmed.
I don't know if they said anything about the possibility of making more depending on how well it does.
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>>14148556
It isn't canon, this is an AU version of the OYW
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>>14148594
>Using manga fox
Federation dogs have no shame.
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>>14148628
>muh plot
Veritable pleb.
>muh relatable characters
Fuck off with your self-insert shit.
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>>14149128
>>14149459
the ball is not holding the gun
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>>14150008
if its not canon, i really wonder what's in thunderbolt that contradicts the original 0079 storyline
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>>14150245
There are rumors about Gihren and Kycillia surviving, but that's it.
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>>14150321
Where the fuck did that ever come from? They're not even mentioned past a speech and a newspaper article in volume 1
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>>14148556
For starters, Amuro already got his magnetic coating upgrade. When his fighting style is all about outspeeding and outmaneuvering his opponents (especially because he's a Newtype), why take that advantage away by weighing his MS down with a bunch of armor and weapons?

Second, remember that the White Base was only meant to serve as a distraction for the Zeon forces, nothing else. The very fact that they have a Gundam is good enough to serve that purpose. They were never meant to be the tip of the spearhead, only as the distraction that draws forces away so that the actual spearhead can do its work. And it worked, Zeon sent its most powerful prototypes against the Gundam instead of letting them wreak havoc against the rest of the Federation fleet.

And finally, you're a fucking idiot if you think that Amuro should have gotten upgrades that only existed on paper back in 1979 (with many of them being designed after the fact). Tomino decided to do his story without overburdening the Gundam with fancy toys (though the cancellation might also have something to do with it), just because another faction of the Federation also has experimental tech in a work decades later doesn't make it non-canon.
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>>14149871
>It's just heat v. heat.
You know how beam sabers work, do you?
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>>14150516
>just because another faction of the Federation also has experimental tech in a work decades later doesn't make it non-canon.

Boom. Great post. Given what's been animated so far, Thunderbolt is as contradictory to the "canon" as 0080, which is to say, not at all.
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>>14148527
someone do a webm of this scene with him firing the missles then cut the dialogue in the middle so it's its daryl doing the circus
for free
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>>14149650
for that matter a beam saber shouldn't stop another beam saber, they should just explode in contact like when beams meet head-on
basically: it looks cool
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>>14150696
>daryl doing the circus
What time.

Be a little more specific about what you want and I'll do it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IOExGMTcZg

They should animate this next.
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If they were to animate Abaoaqu, they will need full lineart of the Gundam HEad GM and the Guntank.

There will also be little cameos like the Psychomu Zaku, Zakurello, Bigro, Gwazine, G-Fighter, Public, Gelgoog Cannon, Zaku Cannon and Gouf.
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>>14150706
>they should just explode in contact
They usually do something similar in UC gundam when there's extended contact between beams, like really bright flashes that are probably miniature explosions.
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>>14150696
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legit 10/10 last episode

I rewatched the previous episodes each time a new one came out, so I've seen the 1st four times, 2nd three times and 3rd two times. The first episode was enjoyable every time, the second episode is probably the 2nd best episode after this last one, the third is still weak after two viewings but Io kind of mellowing out just a little bit after seeing Claudia do her drugs and being given the responsibility of (disposable) underlings was a neat touch. I'll probably rewatch the series with the official subtitles when they come out, and I'll definitely watch the compilation film
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>>14150241
i think it's behind the gun, not holding it.
The RB-79 is 12.8m tall, 3/4 the size of a GM.

Unless Thunderbolt balls are a lot smaller than regular ones...
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>>14150706
Maybe if you knew how beam sabers worked you wouldn't say stupid shit like this.
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>>14150706
Incorrect.
The shape of a beam saber is maintained by the presence of an I-Field. Whenever something enters that I-Field it gets burned by the plasma, but the plasma can't get out past the I-Field.
When two beam sabers clash, it's I-Field blocking I-Field, there's no plasma contact because the plasma can't pass either I-Field.
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They should have animated instead when Amuro got the pink and white Zeta Gundam.

Those characters from thunderbolt are fucking boring. They aren't newtypes. They are just fucking boring.
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>>14152293
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>>14148603
Uso would be proud.
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>>14150230
So you just came here to look at purty robutts?
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This was okay I suppose, the art and the OST were great but that's about all the show has going for it. The actual contents are beyond even F91 levels of rushed.
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>>14152547
>So you just came here to look at purty robutts?
If you didn't, you need to try >>>/a/ or perhaps r/mecha
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>>14150245
The level of technology.
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>>14150516
>>14150689
>non-canon
Once again, people are confusing canon with continuity. Thunderbolt, Z movie etc are all canon. It is the continuity that people like to argue about.
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>>14152820
Given what's been animated so far, Thunderbolt is as contradictory to the continuity as 0080, which is to say, not at all.


>>14152554
>the art isn't part of the actual contents contained in the series.

Kill yourself.
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>>14152834
Much better.
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>>14151569
Damn, all those missiles.
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>>14150245
Dunno about the anime, but the manga goes into some postwar stuff which is much more questionable as canon.
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>>14150245
There's a few things:

-Space Buddhists
-MP Zeong
-Gundam Heads
-The manga shows tons of suits using TB tech, like the backpacks, even in a flashback to an event in the first show (they could ignore this)
-Atlas Gundam, due to it having a radically different design philosophy than any UC Gundam before, or after it.
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>>14149942
How the heck do they have I-fields when beam weaponry didn't even exist
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>>14153006
Didn't ships already have beam weapons by that point?
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>>14153019
Huh, still kinda weird for an MS to have protection against battleship cannons. How strong is an I-field protection again?

Also, this is the part where it gets weird.
Gundam Sentinel has a plot point where a New Desides pilot was surprised a battleship cannon can aim at his MS. Something about a battleship not having enough sensitivity to adjust their aim at fast targets (its actually the Full Armor ZZ Gundam shooting the cannon, he just didnt know that)

In Unicorn, however, battleship cannons are used regularly to try shoot down enemy MS (it even got one in ep.7, I think)
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>>14153059
It depends, but most of the time, they're either have a limited run time, and for a Zaku, they'd have to be fucking huge, and with very limited run time (and an even longer cool down period).

And on a battleship getting an accurate shot. It's kind of accurate. MS are pretty fast, and getting a good shot with Minosky particles all over the place is really fucking hard unless you're a newtype. If you're stupid enough to get close, the AA guns will rip any MS to shreads, specially if they're making a beeline towards the ship.
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I caught up with episode 3 & 4 last night, and it certainly outdone itself after the first one with super unlikable Io.

Although while it was cool to watch that Zaku blow away shitloads of newbie GMs, I found it really hard to believe it could be done with a crappy machine gun.

(I really want the Gunpla now)
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>>14153006
It was an I-field to stop radiation apparently
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>>14148603
I like my Zeeks grilled in all sides.
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>>14153059
>its actually the Full Armor ZZ Gundam shooting the cannon
>He thinks the FAZZ is the FA ZZ.
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>>14148603
As brutal as this looks, that's not that bad of a way to go, isn't it? It's over in a few seconds.
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Just about to watch this but theres also deadfish subs. Ar manko subs better? I dont want to start shit flinging just genuinely want the best watching experience
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>>14153329
Deadfish literally just rip subs from other videos. The subs are the same.
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>>14153359
Right about the subs in that they're the same, but wrong about what they do
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>>14153359
>>14153364
>>14153329
>Who We Are
>There has been quite a bit of confusion about who we are, and what we do. To put it simply. We re-encode from a variety of mkv vids from the top/best fansub groups, and turning them into Universal MP4 vids. We also specialize in taking 10bit fan-subbed videos from other groups and releasing an 8bit hardsubbed version of it. We do this because while 10bit offers quite a few advantages, not everyone’s PS3, 360, hardware player, toaster etc can play it. We’ve used [DeadFish], [asaadas], [Sheline] and [LeLLus] tags in the past, but all our releases from now on will be tagged [Deadfish] alone to avoid confusion.
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>>14153329
Deadfish is not a sub group.
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>>14153180
Less than seconds, probably died faster then nerve conduction could send signals to their brains. They probably only had the barest hint of what was about to happen.

Compared to death in IBO with solid weapons UC "death by pink" was pretty quick
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>>14152990
>-MP Zeong
When will this meme end. There's only 4 prototypes and it's clear that Char took the first one. The others aren't even complete
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It was a nice if very shallow experience. Part of me thinks it would have been better just as a set of music videos but the character served their roles well enough and I didn't find them annoying. The last two episodes had a kinda here we go again feel, especially the back and forth deaths that start to lose any effect and just lets have space battle time without seeming to have any plan.

I have no idea why they didn't release it in the west, I know a lot of fags would eat it up for being "realistic" when really it has a coating of realism and then is as dumb as many gundams.

I feel I've been kinda negative here but I did like it
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>>14154733
So the second half of Thunderbolt is just a typical Zeon remnant story akin to Stardust Memory and PS3 0091?

It is funny how Gundam wars are endless and Macross ones actually ends.
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>>14152990

> space buddhists

Huh?
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Are we going to get the rest of the story, or is this it?
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>>14155321
Pretty much, unless the kit/OVA/compilation sales end up going beyond Bandai's expectations.
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Thunderbolt = 0083 in terms of visuals(hand painted and digital wise)

Those Gelgoogs are nice. I noticed that they need an extra generator to power the rifles.
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>>14155142
The second part actually revolves around a new faction that breaks away from the Earth Federation after the war. They're an alliance of asian countries that served as battlefield cleanup during the war and they recover the remains of the Psycho Zaku and the main professor behind the Reuse Psycho Device. Both the Federation and Zeon remnants want to recover that tech from them, so it's leading to a three-way battle.
The South Seas Alliance also seems to be a sort of extremist religious faction. Their music theme on the battlefield consists of Buddhist chants and they appear to have members infiltrating both the Federation and Zeon remnants
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>>14155321
haha, holy shit, he escapes?
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>>14157108
Io is too based to be held down
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>>14155633
Dayum!

Music themes makes it worth animating.
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>>14155633
Is the Alayashiki system from IBO similar to the Psycho device?
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>>14152990
to be fair, the manga seems to only retcon all spacetech to needing excess 3-D thrusting and multidirectional shields for space debris.
Even in the animation shorts the only non-cumbersome MS are those zaku 1's paradropping onto earth
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>>14155142
For Zeon remnant they seem to pack quite a punch plus the facilities they have got.While EF feels too weak in comparison.
No wonder it feels like an AU
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>>14155321
They could have included it in the OVAs by keep Battle of A Bawa Aqu same.
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>>14157204
if we get a sequel they'll probably start at full blast in baoa qu
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>>14155321
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't really mind if this is all that gets animated.

After the OYW ends the story kind of goes off the rails, in my opinion. Everything with the Zeon remnants and the space Buddhists is kind of dumb, and I really don't like the Atlas.

It moved away from what I liked, which was mobile suits having crazy fights maneuvering around a dangerous part of space full of debris form destroyed colonies.
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>>14157222
It would be the second time an acguy gets to shine though, the other being of course karen getting rekt
and it would be REALLY hard to believe hairkid surviving getting rammed by a megamissile pack
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>>14152554
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>>14153102
Got the Zaku II + Big Gun waiting for me back home.. 4 more days.
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>>14157241
Do not fool yourself
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>>14157234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_jRDIeMUg

acguy mc here
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>>14157323
so the only thing an acguy has a chance against is a disarmed GM thats been de-armed and cant even handle space
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>>14157140
Io is far stronger than those whose souls are held down by time signatures
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its bad that i picked this as entryway to the gundam franchise?
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>>14157222
High Speed Acguy chases are pretty dope, though. Io is also much more likable in the second part
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>>14157222
I'd say things can't get too bad unless Ohtagaki gives himself into his sex/rape tendencies again.
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So was the surgeon chick straight up brain damaged from injury/oxygen deprivation or just so traumatized from being launched into space and grabbed by a Feddie MS that it broke her?
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>>14148468
and then they all surrender when like 4 gelgoogs show up

the fuck?
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>>14148674
then they all surrender like cunts
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>>14152990
that is ALL IN THE MANGA, if sunrise even makes a second season of gundam thunderbolt all of that will be changed
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>>14147523
>not waiting for the inevitable movie edition
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>>14157222
I agree with that. I liked the earlier thunderbolt designs with the verniers and sub-arms, but Atlas and way the aquatic zeek units are done just don't appeal to me.
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>>14159054
They couldn't beat one Dom with their entire forces laying down a barrage of beams onto it and they exploded by the dozen upon being grazed with 100mm Zaku bullets, at this level of jobbing what chance do they have against semi-competent opponents?

Their showing was absolutely pathetic.
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I liked the show despite the wonky ass designs.
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Someone needs to slap the shit out of the director. Allowing guided missile Itano Circus in a UC gundam show.
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>>14159318
Theoretically you could have laser-guided missiles in Gundam, maybe done with eye-tracking, Minovsky can't interfere with that too.
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>>14159318
And we at RobotechX.com all laughing

Lasers, you daft cunt.
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>>14148603
pretty sure that qualifies as a war crime...
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>>14159377
Gundam has committed some brutal war crimes lately where have you been?
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>>14159391
well yeah but that's usually either in AU's, or involves super weapons or WMDs, you almost never see normal MS do that sort of thing in UC
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>>14159367
>>14159374
Minovsky particles interfere with visible light at high enough densities.

Mobile Suit cockpit displays don't show raw camera feeds. The suit's computer corrects the images to give the pilot a guess to what things really look like.

Bump the density up more and you get iFields and beam shields.
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>>14159377
they wernt surrendering or POWs yet, not different from shooting an "unarmed" terrorist wearing a suicide vest.
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>>14159410
I meant more using a freaking beam saber of all things, kinda overkill much
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>>14159417
Hardly, what did you want them to do? Get out and talk to them? UC actually does this plenty of times, although Bikini Squad is most memorable.
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>>14159435
>Bikini Squad
that's one of many reasons I've never watched Victory, and never plan on watching it, which sucks cause it has some of my favorite MS designs
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>>14159488
It was just the latest scheme to kill the Gundam after all a 12 year old boy wouldn't ever dare kill a bunch of girls in bikinis right? That might have worked on Amuro Uso gives no fucks
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>>14159417
Using the beam saber limited the damage compared to using a rifle
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>>14157316
Fooling myself is the only way I know how to live.
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>>14160706
Fool me once: shame on you. Teach a mean to fool me, and I'll be fooled for the rest of my life

wait
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>>14159377
>war crime
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>>14159488
>>14159488

you're fucking stupid
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>>14152990
>-Space Buddhists
What
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>>14159377
Doesn't it have to be against people for that to be a war crime? Only Zeeks died
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>>14152990
>>14161029
newtype is treated l as mystical phenomena and there's whole religion based on it

pretty cool actually
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>>14159075
I severely doubt that they would change the space Buddhists very easily. What could they do, turn them into proto-Titans?
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>>14150516
>>14150689
Thunderbolt actually makes sense as a derivation of the RX-78-1B Full Armor Type B. Heavy on the missile launchers, multiple beam weapons. Both backpack hardpoints filled with range weaponry.
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>>14152990
What actually happens after Io and Cornelius are captured?
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>>14161497
Io kills his captors, breaks out Cornelius and the rest of the pows during A Baoa Qu
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>>14161527

Did that blonde girl in the group of kid pilots survive or matter, or was that just a distinctive mob character?
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>>14161696

Who? The person here?
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>>14162057
She was probably gangbanged a lot
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>>14161696
None of the children survive
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>>14162057
>>14162112

That sucks, she was cute.
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>>14162112
Wrong, several Balls/GMs/Guncannons were clearly seen among the surrendering forces when the Siren Fleet picked them all up. Just because you didn't see them among the prisoner line, doesn't mean they were all dead.
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>>14161117
well Lalah cannot quite be Space Jesus, so
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>>14162057
man I hope she didn't die

I wanted to fug her...
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>>14163080
Maybe the older pilots were the ones who survived. Not all of the reinforcement pilots were children. It'd make sense considering how well they fared during the battle and their lack of appearance among the prisoners
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>>14164215
I think we see at least one kid when Io saved the crew.
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>>14164401
>>
I TELL YOU FINALLY I AM YOUR BABY!

Who preordered ost here?
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>>14164405
And people call Kira a Gary Stu
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>>14163080
Things would be different around here if there was Amuro.
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>>14165342
If only they cloned Amuro to send him to every battle theater.
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>>14165404
>cloned Amuro
Banrise is saving that for Kidou Senshi Gundam Nu-Unicorn.
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>>14165235
Where can I buy it? I want to throw my salary at everything Thunderbolt.
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>>14165404
>>14165629
Actually skullheart beat you to it

>>14165647
Cdjapan is usually the best bet
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>>14165319
Io escaping confinement is a lot more plausible than Kira surviving a fucking nuke. Io's always been a slippery motherfucker ever since he snuck up on that Dom and jacked it
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i thought this was gonna be in 4k? Are we waiting on the BDs for that?
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>>14148603

I laughed so hard at that scene because of all the MS Igloo-tier voice-acting when all of that happened.
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Hi /m/, can I watch it without any previous Gundam? Looks even crazier than Unicorn (that I didn't see yet except some piece of animation).
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>>14168376
Nothing is stopping you.
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>>14168380
Thanks, I'll take that for "there isn't any relation to other Gundam timeline", if I misunderstood your response please let me know.
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>>14168388
It's part of the UC timeline, but is still pretty self contained. It will expect you to already know who the factions are and the ending hints towards a big event that happens at the end of the original Gundam series
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>>14168388
You're pretty much spot on. You won't understand the significance of a scant few things, but otherwise you don't need anything else
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>>14168428
>>14168433
Ok thank you!
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>>14168433
>You won't understand the significance of a scant few things
Why the Zeeks fear the Gundam?

Other than that, what?
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>>14168628
Who the Zeeks are
Who the Feddies are
Why they are fighting
What is a "Side"
The reason why the Feddies don't have Mobile Suits and the Zeeks have Zaku 1s during a flashback sequence
Why the Feds have even considered sending out a bunch of children in Mobile Suits
The significance of the shot of A Baoa Qu at the end
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>>14168949
Oh, I seem to have taken all of that for granite.

Man the UC is a doggy dog world..
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>>14168962
>Oh, I seem to have taken all of that for granted.
>Man the UC is a dog-eat-dog world..
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>>14169013
Are you new, pal?

Allow me to play doubles advocate and argue that you aren't, but just don't know about the meme.
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>>14159377
>Implying it applies to zeeks after culling off half of humanity
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>>14169063
I didn't know that being a literal retard was a meme
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>>14164250
Team Zaku's blasting off agaaaaaiiiiin!
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>>14147831
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>>14148603

Feddie guy wasn't wearing his helmet when that happened......
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>>14170937
He puts it on quickly when it happens.
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>>14170489
Lurk two years before posting.
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>>14164215
No, aside from Io, there were only 4 other adult pilots who sortied in the attack with the kids (The remaining mobile suits and balls that guarded the fleet were all wiped out by Daryl), we know at least the one who was commanding Daisy and the girl in the guncannon was killed, so at most, you'd only have 3 others if they managed to all survived.

>>14165404
Pretty sure a mass produced Amuro would have even more mental instabilities then the original Amuro. Imagine telling Amuro he was actually an expendable clone. Don't think he'd take that well.
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>>14171112
Weren't there the AR and CA chips by the time Crossbone came out?
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>>14159377
>what are colony drops
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>>14171027
You're trying way too hard to fit in

Go back to lurking
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Why were the Living Dead so butthurt about the Gundam when they in control most of the time. They were also camping the fuck out of the remnants of the Moore Brotherhood's home colony.
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>>14171164
>butthurt about the Gundam
Powerless against it
>camping
A legitimate tactic, see Finland for reference
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>>14171144
>ZZ isn't canon

Just kill yourself
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>>14171172
The snipers also seemed to be invincible to the brotherhood. Camping may be legit, but they are in the middle of an enemy graveyard. Any zeon losses there are nothing compared to the loss of the colony.
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>>14171144
Seems like you've got some deep-seeded issues, chum.
>>
is this the last episode?
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>>14171444
Yes, BDs soon and then a possible Thunderbolt 2 Electric Boogaloo in the future.
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>>14171444
>>14171545
Not to mention the inevitable movie compilation.
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>>14171547
Ah yes, movie versions. Though there is a bit in between episodes that needs to be created for the different segments to flow.
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>>14171563
They could add stuff that was cut from the manga, they have enough as is.
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>>14159199
those were 12 year olds with little to no training
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>>14150321
kinda hard to survive from a headshot and getting your head cut off by a bazooka round...
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>>14171885

He might be implying that those two were not killed in the first place in Thunderbolt instead of surviving blatant headshots
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>>14171547
The BD release will be a movie compilation
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>>14171164
>complain about in battle camping in something that's not FPS game
god damn no wonder the land of the whoppers can't win wars anymore, it's because the entire army is now fill with COD kiddies that's all grown up to think it's still COD
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>Nakamura is Gundam again
>Sugita still isn't

It must be some cruel joke at Sunrise at this point.
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>>14159163
>not rewatching the series a few times before the movie edition and then rewatching the movie edition a few more times.
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>>14176412
Was Nakamura piloting a Gundam before?
Because I know he was Graham in 00 but he didn't actually get his own Gundam until now.
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>>14176575
I miss Craig. He was too based for this world.
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>>14176588
Don't forget his /m/ co-host.
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>>14176584
>Was Nakamura piloting a Gundam before?
He was Felini in Gundam Build Fighters
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>>14176412
I'm pretty sure he did pilot a Gundam in Try, albeit as fodder.
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Is it ever confirmed why the EFSF reinforcement group is mostly kids? Is it because they're running out of fighting aged pilots or are they just trying to create more Amuros after they find out his kill count?
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>>14176658
They mention that the kids just loved and admired the deeds of the young White Base crew, and so, they enlisted in the army/mobile suit corps.

The author probably used this to show the horros and reality of war, and how kids are easily influencedby this kind of thing.

Youngsters joining the army as volunteers is not uncommon and happen all the time. My only concern with this whole thing is: How much time those little fuckers got of training and preparation? Because if they enlist based on the news of the White Base, they would have joined the army, chosen to follow pilot career, trained to be a pilot and comissioned to battle in a time span of 2 to 3 months.
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Finally the bad guys wins.
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>>14176698
Sending kids at the frontline without the experience senior officers to guide them seems to me a wrong decision.
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>>14147523
>relatively good ending
Wasn't expecting that.
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>>14176721
The show agrees with you.
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>>14176700
Thunderbolt is a zeon wank, they are good guys. Io is evil.
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>>14176795
He was definitely an asshole.
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>>14176721
>>14176771
The plan itself wasn't THAT bad, I mean, it's a very basic plan, military speaking, but somehow worked.

Even more, we couldn't expect much else from the Mua brotherhood, lead by an incompetent green commander and her backstabbing staff, who tried a fucking frontal assault against enemy snipers holed up on defensive positions, in the very first chapter.

The plan with the kids corps it was that: a more numerous group distract the enemy mobile suits, while the other smaller group, lead by Io Gundam, attack the unprotected enemy fleet. Everything fine, the only thing I would change would the roles of the groups, Io, more experienced and better equipped, goes after the enemies suits and their ace, while the kids goes after the big and slow target.
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>>14176795
>a regime where they have no qualm with exploiting and mutilating already crippled soldiers
>zeon wank
Put your trip back on, black knight.
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>>14176658

Look, it's very simple.

They want to take the Side back. Pretty much all the forces in the area are Mua Brotherhood forces. Why?

Because it's like occupied Poland in WWII. If you were a Pole, you would want to take your country back BY YOURSELF, because it would otherwise mean that the foreigners would take over your nation. You would throw all your resources to make sure you took back your home without owing anyone.

Io's Gundam? Bought and paid for by the Brotherhood's funds. It is a Brotherhood operation through and through.
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>>14177019
The FA Gundam is actually a "Gift" from the main EF forces iirc.
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>>14177019
>>14177292
Volume 1, page 148, asshole second in command says Jaburo gave the Gundam to them as an award.
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>>14176800
>asshole
>his own house destroyed
>literally destroyed, no land to come back to
>Zeon began the war
>not wanting to kill them all one by one and watching them suffer

What do you think the Russians thought after months and months of Stalingrad when taking their lands back?
Fuck Io was too lenient with the cripplefuck, should have shot him when he came out of the Zaku.
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>>14176837
You should know that anything that doesn't have Zeeks being baby-eating evil, ugly and unrelatable is Zeon wank for /m/.
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>>14177306
Being angry and wanting to kill your enemies is understandable, but you don't have to be such an asshole all the damn time about it.
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>>14177364
Nah, he was justified since Zeon set up a bunch of snipers in that area.
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tattoo aqua guncannon slut didnt show up

maybe season 2
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>>14177425

Of course she didn't, because the chapters covered in the adaptation didn't include her.
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>>14177396
pussy snipers
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>>14177439
The animators are probably having a sigh of relief, since they won't need to draw all those tattoos (yet).
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>>14176599
Geoff was great.

Man, his impersonations of the Queen were stellar

>>14176795
>is a
God, what a stupid way of phrasing.
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>>14177499
She wears a pilot suit over them 90% of the time. They only really show in that one scene
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>>14177563
It's one of more than just one.
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>>14176658
The popular opinion is that The Mua/Moore Brotherhood is keeping Zeon forces tied up and by this time Zeon is in full retreat back to A Baoa Qu. The Federation is trying its hardest to hunt and kill Zeon forces that are fleeing but Side 4 and Side 7 are in opposite orbit of one another, there's no need to recapture Moore since there's nothing left and the chances of Zeon sending troops all the way from side seven to assist The Living Dead is fairly low, so why not send kids to fight in a battle that may overlap with the most important battle of the war.
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>>14178030
Clearing the thunderbolt sector was actually high priority for the EFF. After it was cleared and zeon forces pulled out they moved the main fleet through it as a sort of backdoor on the orbital path to A baoa qu. This was the true purpose of the operation, not just cutting off a supply line.

They sent the brotherhood in to unknowingly do it for them so as to not tip of the zeon forces that this is where the main fleet was. The brotherhood basically got used by the EFF.
>>
WHere can I go to read the Manga?
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>>14178047
iirc, wasn't there a mission in Encounters in Space for PS2 where you had to clear and literally move debris from the shoal zone?

It was like a "training" mission to learn the game's controls... I think...
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