Why is nobody talking about best girl?

>>14139647
Anon are you high? Practically all the threads here talked about Mirage.

The one with the kitty cat or the one with the big fat tits?

>>14139647
I wonder if purple hair glasses girl is related to Frontier's purple hair glasses girl.

Yeah, I think there should be more Mikumo threads too

But in all seriousness, how do we feel about the bridge bunnies this series?

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>>14139656
The moe one.

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>>14139647

Reminder: The jellyfish is the real body, the girl is just a host

She's got a cat mouth and a weird Jellyfish expressive pet that nobody seems to notice...

>>14139665
They're pretty fun, which is appropriate at least so far in this series. Also, this show is delightfully comfy. Even more so than Frontier. Both Al Shahal and Ragna look like fantastically comfy resort worlds. Can't wait for them to get all shot up

>>14139662
Hell at first I thought she might be the same girl. How many years are between Frontier and Delta?

>>14139716
8.

>>14139716

8 if I recall.

>>14139694
So the cute girl is like a walking dead body and stuff? I'm ok with that.

>>14139662
>>14139716
Frontier's purple haired girl had weird full black eyes, like some character from the original series too.

>female Chaos crew members wear zettai ryouki as their uniform.
They are all best girl anon.

How about Chuck's thick sister?

>>14139732
Yeah I just did a little more research, they're definitely not the same girl. Must be more of that "clones fucking clones" effect that keeps creating look-alikes.

>>14139742
Well, Frontier purple haired glasses girl was also slightly darker toned and had some form of space-Bindi mark on her forehead. Similar, but slightly different personalities, though.

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Feels nyaa.

>>14139727
So Sheryl is 25 now? I want her to make a cameo or something

>>14139647

Not everyone is autistic enough to give a shit about one note background characters you know.

>>14139992
Might be hard she's on the other side of the galaxy right now.

>>14140101
Bridge bunnies are the best anon. Not just for Macross but any show

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I want one of those seal/cat hybrids. It can live in my bathtub and I wont' care if it gets the hardwood floors wet.

>>14140105

They can cross the galaxy pretty quickly using fold technology so she could arrive for a concert or something. That's unlikely to happen in show however, and I'm just as happy. I'd prefer the show stand on it's own rather than using even a quick cameo. Maybe for one of the movies or a special though.

>>14140122
>>14139992
She might not be out of her coma if the movies depict what happened in-universe. We know, presumably, that she wakes during a concert, but we don't know exactly when.

>>14140122
Exactly getting across the galaxy ain't the problem having a good reason to is another. Besides I just figure she's on the other side of galaxy on standby for any VAR's outbreaks in that part of the galaxy till they find out very soon who's behind it all and bring in all their singers with there aces in tow for a very musical smack down of a whole planet.

>>14140129
TV is what happens right now according to one of the master files? data books? Her and Alto are on some other small colony he's busy being both a flight instructor and her personal body guard. Sheryl has an entire VF-25 squad as her bodyguards now.

>>14140167

Oh, we have that kind of follow up data? Any follow ups for anyone else? I know SDF's cast disappeared when heading for the center of the galaxy and just about nothing more.

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>>14139647
Yeah, why aren't you?

>>14140179
Yes and I would so they did follow up with the others but if they did I have no idea if its been translated or not.
I learned about this one with talking Macross with someone who hangs around a few Macross forums a lot.

>>14139647
i'd pick her jelly octopus.

Could the Vajra or Protodevlin get Var syndrome?

>>14140122
Galaxy is still a huge place, even with fold travel.

Only the Vajra have Fold Hax that lets them be anywhere in a short time.

Frontier regularly has to shut everything down to save power for jumps that take days or weeks.

>>14140306
Don't know, we're not sure exactly how it works if its just effecting something the protoculture added into every race when they mucked with their DNA then no.

Protodevlin don't see it happening as they are already energy beings who hijacked the bodies of super Zentradi

>>14140327
If you remember LAI already had a working prototype of a fold hax drive they built during Frontier. Its been 8 years so its possible its already in wide spread use or already in use on a limited scale. And the VF-31 have fold quartz on their nose so those VF should have a the ability already to do that.

>>14140365
Quartz around cockpit doesn't mean anything,a s vf-25/27 had same design feature and still needed booster to jump.
>>14140230
What's the source? Novel? Datafile on valks? The Ride?

>>14142758
Well regarding the boosters the Drakens folded in and out with no external equipment so that tech must have finally been miniaturized. No proof the 31s can do the same yet though.

>>14139647
:3

Everyone thinks the jellyfish is some weird part of her anatomy making her an alien, but has anyone considered it just might be her phone?

>>14139647
Is that a shirt with a mercat pattern on it or an actual mercat she just keeps with her?

>>14143047
No that is a living umineko. There are some other shots of her front and that has visible definition. It just doesn't move

>>14143050
A stuffed cat perhaps?

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>>14143050
>umineko
???

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>>14139647
>>14139680
>green hair
>best anything

I don't think so.

>>14140167
Master Files are not canon. Just an in-universe encyclopedia. Basically EU that is ignored.

>>14143001
Riod was giving them commands so there must be a ship as they piggybacked the space fold. Ozma did this himself.

>>14143146

He certainly is on a ship since we see him on it's bridge, but the various knights folded in by themselves during the first episode by the looks of things.

>>14143060
The mercats are also called umineko

>>14139647

Is this worth picking up for the purple-haired girl? Or is she just a side-character?

>>14143284
>Is this worth picking up
Yes

>Or is she just a side-character?
She's a bridge bunny if that means anything

>>14143135
Till they fill in the blanks or change it in the current series its all we got so its either that or you know nothing about anyone anywhere once the show ends.

>>14142758
Well it ain't on them to look pretty it has to have a purpose. Who knows they may have miniaturized fold boosters to be internal or fit on a hardpoint instead of mounted on the top of VF

>What's the source? Novel? Datafile on valks? The Ride?

I think it was a datafile or it might have been The Ride, I really can't remember which of those 2 it is

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>>14143284
You know, I wasn't all that excited when Delta was announced. But (if you enjoyed Macross 7 and can stand the idea of the Jamming Birds actually working, which is, admittedly, a pretty big if), I've been pleasantly surprised and it's actually been pretty solid.

The pacing is strong (though, Frontier up through 7 was well paced as well, and then it... wasn't). The singers are much more complementary to each other than Ranka and Sheryl ever was (Freyja's VA singing voice is also miles beyond what Ranka's VA was capable of when they started recording songs for Frontier).

The MC isn't a trained fighter pilot but the introduction of his battroid piloting skills is solid and is much better than the explanation for Alto's talents. The animation studio's quite keen on getting little details right (EX-Gear placement, VF-1 folding tail wings) if you like that sort of thing.

The big question is whether or not you're into the idea of Deculture. If you are, it's been a good ride so far. If not, well, Macross really isn't for you then

>>14140365
>>14142758
The Quartz around the cockpit are for the ISC.

>Human pilots protected by the ISC can realize the full potential of the variable fighter and no longer is acceleration upon the human body the limiting factor in combat maneuvering.
>The rare material known as Fold Quartz is needed in the production of the ISC system.

>>14139647
I still think she's the secret third corner of the Hayate - Mirage love triangle.

>>14144975
What's the ISC?

>>14142758
>still needed booster to jump.
>>14143001
>Drakens folded in and out with no external equipment
The obvious answer is that the Ghosts attached to the planes are Fold Boosters in addition to being drones, and that 4 of them are enough to generate a fold field large enough to transport the survivors of the squadron back to Windemere in Episode 01.

>>14140306
>>14140352
It's spelled -iln, not -lin.

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>>14143098
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>>14145000
Inertia storage converter

http://www.macross2.net/m3/macrosspedia/macrosspedia-index.html#i

>A technology built for the YF-24 Evolution variable fighter that helps protect the pilot from the harmful effects of acceleration, allowing mobility and combat capability beyond the normal limits of manned maneuvering. Derived from the Quimeliquola Special Inertia Vector Control system, the inertia conversion and storage system is commonly known as the "inertial buffer", "inertia buffer", and other such names. The ISC allows pilots to exceed the inertial endurance limits of the aircraft and human body with a system that gathers and redistributes inertia imparted in a maneuver. That portion of inertia the pilot and airframe are not able to endure is converted into dimensionally-distorted energy and temporarily stored until it is gradually returned to the pilot and airframe. Human pilots protected by the ISC can realize the full potential of the variable fighter and no longer is acceleration upon the human body the limiting factor in combat maneuvering. The rare material known as Fold Quartz is needed in the production of the ISC system.

Basically Star Trek type technology that allows them to tell physics to fuck off momentarily.

>>14143253
Subs should have called them catfish.

>>14145057
>asically Star Trek type technology that allows them to tell physics to fuck off momentarily.

Technobabble. The scourge of mecha series.

>>14145066
>Technobabble. The scourge of mecha series
Most mecha series exist based particularly because of technobabble.

Shit, you're lucky to even get details of how something works these days, nobody is nerding it up with fully-detailed mecha stats anymore.

>>14145066
Star Trek at least made efforts to plug in the relevant babble they make up.

>>14145066
mecha needs technobabble to exist, or at least "real" robot series do.

>>14145057
Why not just make everyone cyborgs?

>>14145062
>>14143253
For some reason, I really, really like calling them "seacats."

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>>14139647
>Big tits
>Tightly packed big tits
>glasses
>Beautymark

wew
The purple bunny is in a league of her own this time around. Vita game where she can be your operatorfu when

Anyone else find it a little weird that there hasn't been any R34 of Delta?

>>14145355
Check pixiv

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>>14139647
Green = Loser

>>14145057
This reminds me, is Energy Conversion Armor like the NX Enterprise's polarized hull: a material that strengthens itself when a current is run through it?

>>14145355
There's tons man
You just gotta know where to look

>>14145417
Zessica > Mikono

>>14145471
Pretty much exactly like that.

>>14139647
Looks like a slut desu.

>>14139694
if someone pull off the jellyfish, will the girl die?

>>14147055
Sluts are typically best girls these days

>>14145226
Vita macross anything when.

>>14139647
Is that mercat dead?

>>14149703

Given the state of most live animal mascots in Macross, I'm inclined to believe that it's just asleep.

Assuming that it's not an accessory, like a stuffed mercat or something.

I wonder what their texture is like. Do they feel like sealskin to the touch or is do they have fur?

>>14139647
she's so cute with her :3 face

>>14139647
The dark girl with the glasses looks good.

>>14145066
>muh realism

>>14148261
it would be extremely painful

>>14139697
I noticed that a few of the girls at the Walkure audition had cat ears and tails too. Plus Hawaiian guy has webbed hands. Is transhumanism a thing now in Macross?

I'm surprised- the worldbuilding is easily the most interesting part of the show so far for me.

>>14149729
They probably have fur, seeing as how Hayate is allergic to them.

>>14151187

No, those are aliens.

Basically, once the protoculture realized it was fucked it started seeding life on isolated planets in the hope of one of them, one day, rebooting galactic civilization after all of the Zentradi finished murdering each other across the Galaxy.

Granted that didn't work out exactly as intended, because the Zentradi never killed each other off and the war kept going for millions of years.

So we are all based on the same DNA, and engineered to end up looking humanoid, but minor differences based on growing up on different worlds. Just like we and the Zentradi are 99% the same, we and the merpeople Ragnan's are 99% the same. And so on for the Zolans, the Windemere, the cat people... etc.

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>>14151187
They're aliens. Didn't you watch the sequels? 7 had Zolans. Pic related.

>>14149612
Probably about half way into the show. It'll be like one of those Macross Ace/Ultimate/Triangle Frontier types.

>>14152218
>>14152256

So the only true alien life so far encountered in Macross are the vajra and protodeviln?

Everything else are different branches of humanity seeded on different worlds

>>14152900

And the space whales, don't forget the space whales.

>>14152900
The Protodevlin was due to the Protoculture in a way as well.
They built the bodies of the Protodevlin as a bioweapon, but then space vampires from another dimension possessed them.

>>14152900
No. Plus, 7 and, Frontier had some unique looking aliens. Like those dinosaurs in 7.

>>14152937
I meant advanced alien lifeforms with human level intelligence, not just endemic planetary fauna

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Left confirmed for able to hold her liquor

>>14139647
She's the primary love interest, isn't she.

>>14152218
Source on this?

>>14139647
Cast is very big and I still don't recognize half these characters.

>>14140110
How can you tell who the bridge bunnies are? I saw no bridge scene yet

>>14156614
Apparently Zolans are from a 7 OVA (didn't see it), and Mikhail from Fronteir is one, as for Windermere it just seems implied they're not earthlings.

>>14157038
>Mikhail from Fronteir is one
Yeah no he isn't, pointy ears is not nearly enough evidence to support a hybrid between humans and a race that was established as unable to reproduce with humans after he would have been born.

>>14156614
Macross 7. I forget the episode but it was on that planet they settled on for a while. They came across some Protoculture ruins that confirmed everything.

>>14140154
>bring in all their singers with there aces in tow for a very musical smack down of a whole planet.

>dick
>diamonds

watched the first episode, does this show get any better? it's garbage compared to plus or SDF, all the goofy shit and anime cliche is killing me.

>>14156614

Its just an established macross. DYRL touches on it with the submerged protoculture city, Macross Zero goes into more detail about how and why they influenced human evolution, and Macross 7 does that again while also mentioning that we are not the only seeded race (introducing the Zolans).

Delta is the first series to really focus on the other seeded races, though. They are really in the forefront this time around. Possible because we are focusing on established colonies rather than colonization fleets from Earth.

>>14139647
I'd actually much rather the other two.

>>14161171
>watched the first episode, does this show get any better?
Actually yeah

>all the goofy shit and anime cliche is killing me
It's actually not at 7's level of goofy yet. Also SDF has a very large fair share of cliches as well

>>14161171

Yes. The first episode is super, super over the top because the next couple episodes are actually slow and slice of lifey. They throw you right into the insanity at first and then spend the next couple episodes backing that up, explaining everything, and getting everyone set up properly.

We are only just now starting to get back to the main plot of the show.

Think of it as Kawamori throwing a fistful of glitter in the Otaku's face and saying "Do I have your attention now? Promise to stick around for more of that? Good. Now, time for some SCIENCE FICTION."

>>14161736
>Also SDF has a very large fair share of cliches as well

Who are well executed and mired with twists that elevate it from being more than just otaku bait.

I want to give Delta a chance but I'm not sure if the series is for me anymore.

>>14161786
>twists
Such as?
Name them, faggot.

>>14161786
>I want to give Delta a chance
Then actually give it the chance and watch the episodes. Each episode only gets better than the last

>>14161786
And you say Delta is just otaku bait with just watching the first episode?
As mentioned, they explained why they work that way in the later episodes, when ya know, the MC is officially part of their group and not a civilian who's just watching from the side.

>>14161758
>Promise to stick around for more of that? Good. Now, time for some SCIENCE FICTION."

Well, let's just hope he maintains that without doing anything too stupid.

That group idol bounce was the most retarded thing I've seen in a while for how gratuitous it was.

>>14162064
Idol groups are gratuitous by nature. This is sci-fi idols with plane mecha on the side.

>>14162076

Yeah, it doesn't make them bobbing up and down like Whac-A-Moles with their tits bouncing around like mounds of jello any more stupid though.

>>14162085
How is it stupid? It's not like it's some crazy move nobody has ever done. I wouldn't even call it incredibly uncommon.

>>14162085

It's no more gratuitous than say...a shower shot of a woman that includes her nipples for no real reason.

>>14162096

I'm not calling it that, I just think it's a stupid scene because to me it mostly comes off as a weirdly-done appeal for shut-ins to masturbate to mammaries flapping about like windsocks and shoving particularly awkward fanservice in your face.

>>14162110
I think you're being overly sensitive about this

>>14162110
Yes, it was a scene made for fapping, but it lasted for about 2 seconds and was followed by nice Valk action. One thing balances the other.

>>14162076
And this is everything that is wrong with this series.
Fuck, Macross I and Plus kinda had a negative message towards idol culture regarding their heroines. Even if Minmei eventually accepts her role, it is accepting the distress and being just a product without much of a personal life.

This series is pretty much, like you said, Sci-Fi Idols being awesome, with Sailor moonesque henshin transformations and a plot that facilitates their constant appearance and screen time.

Everything feels so fucking convenient and everything exists to push the Idols.

I hate this series for probably the same reason some people are loving it.

>>14162167
It's the first couple episodes, dude. Besides, Freyja wants to be an idol above everything so there aren't any negatives. It isn't getting in the way of any other priorities. We'll see that later if it comes up.

>>14162178
The base of the plot is music and idol shit, complete with the bad guys having a princess singing a music that gives people space aids. This is a show about sci-fi idols with mecha on the side.

And that's fine if it's your thing, it's not mine and it's not something I expected from this series who always added conflict with the Idol angle and never truly played it straight.

We got magical girl transformations being re-used as footage brah. Embrace it, because these episodes sure as fuck embraced it already.

>>14162167
I honestly think after the events of 7 and Frontier it only makes sense that singers would be in more importance. However I also think you're missing the larger story that is slowly building while thinking this is going to turn into Love Live or something. All the pieces for the Macross formula are in place, especially after the last episode

>>14162195
>who always added conflict with the Idol angle and never truly played it straight.
So you think there will be absolutely no conflict with the idol angle? Especially after the bad guys were revealed as the same race as the main girl who just revealed herself to the world as one of them? You don't see any potential there? You don't see the fact that the higher Chaos members are intentionally hiding information from Hayate and Freyja about what exactly they are doing as anything that could be relevant? There's nothing that could come from Mikumo who we have absolutely no idea who or what she is?

>>14162200
Oh but I do expect it!
However, for all the built up, the setting, the catch phrases, I'm fully expecting for the conflict end with a positive note for the idol and idol culture side.

>>14162204
You're not going to get an "idol culture is actually shit" ending from a Macross series from the guy who literally believes that music and alternate methods of fighting can change the world especially when the singers are the most popular aspect of the franchise. And I would honestly say that all the Macrosses have happy endings for the culture. In DYRL, Minmay doesn't win, but she becomes a legendary idol instead, 7 has Basara literally save the world because of how great his singing is over encouragement from all his friends, his allies and even the villains itself. And Frontier literally has alien bugs sing along too. Hell, Sheryl literally goes through the "idol is old news" song and dance before coming back by the end

Even Plus, the one where the idol is an AI terrorist. Kawamori was told that the idea of a computerized idol that people would line up for was ridiculous and yet here we are with literal Vocaloid concerts in stadiums

>>14162216
Nor I am expecting.
I'm expecting "Idols have it hard too and are real human beings."
As in, he always tries to show the drama behind the cutesy faces and firly dresses. He really respects it and makes you care about the characters.

I'm not complaining about Music in Macross, because that would be complain about Macross itself.
I am however, stating that this is a idol focused show. And that while idols, idol culture and several of it's elements were very fucking present in all entries of the series, it's a part of a whole.

Pretty much every big fight we had right now was a repeat of the ending of the original macross, you know with the pop music playing it out loud as intense dog fights and space battles happen?

It built up to that on the original and had a very interesting character work for all the heroines.

I feel empty inside as the idols each yell their transformation catchphrase as their henshin into their idol-like outfits. I don't feel invested on their characters at all. Mostly because of the tone and how perfect their live seems to be despite they charging head along machine gun fire/missiles.

While I gave a shit ton of fucks about Minmei and her problems as well Sharon.

If it makes it easier for you to understand where I'm coming from, I wasn't much of a fun of Frontier either, even if I had more fun with it with Delta so far.
Also
>Basara
>Macross 7
The tone and tropes they use aren't from Idol culture though.

>>14162235
>I'm expecting "Idols have it hard too and are real human beings."
>As in, he always tries to show the drama behind the cutesy faces and firly dresses. He really respects it and makes you care about the characters.
I feel like this seems like something that's too early to be judging by 4 episodes in

>While I gave a shit ton of fucks about Minmei and her problems as well Sharon.
Well, I think that's debatable about Minmay but how could "feel" about Sharon? She was literally a yandere AI computer. She wasn't a character meant to sympathized with, she was a program gone rogue

>If it makes it easier for you to understand where I'm coming from, I wasn't much of a fun of Frontier either, even if I had more fun with it with Delta so far.
I guess we'll have to differ there because I think the first four episodes of Delta have completely blown the first four of Frontier out of the water

>The tone and tropes they use aren't from Idol culture though.
But they are from music culture and do carry the general theme of Kawamori with music changing hearts throughout the galaxy

>>14162252
>I feel like this seems like something that's too early to be judging by 4 episodes in
Not for other Macross (Well ok, maybe 7) and none of them had the tone, feel or structure of a idol show. I mean do you at least get why it doesn't sit well for me?
I can respect it fully if you disagree, if you have no issue with it. "I have no issues with the magical girl transformations anon, stop being a fag." fine. Ok. I can deal with that opinion, but can you see how it might be kinda weird? This is a trope lifted wholesale from an idol anime.

I think my point is: Macross has had idols in it, and in some entries was even about idols and their culture. But it wasn't a idol show". For four episodes, that exactly what we had. Or am I wrong?
>But they are from music culture and do carry the general theme of Kawamori with music changing hearts throughout the galaxy

Which was never something I've ever had a problem with.
The musicians behind the music were always my issue. It's not that Freya is a idol that is a problem. Is that she, and the other members of the idol group feel straight out of an idol anime. And I feel the series did this better in all entries. I didn't feel a cold void when I endured the dialogue of Frontier's heroines.
(I will make it clear that I didn't like Frontier at all again. Hence "endure").

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>>14162265
>Not for other Macross (Well ok, maybe 7) and none of them had the tone, feel or structure of a idol show.
I mean, I've kind of watched a fair amount idol shows in my time and there's kind of too many mecha, bullets flying around and more importantly, a significant amount of male characters, to call this an idol show. Usually idol shows are more like certain episodes following Ranka in the beginning of Frontier when they're about girls getting popular, becoming rising stars and general spending the whole series doing cute shit and nothing else. When the biggest threat of the day is can they pass the latest audition not if the brainwashing music pilots will blow them up. If I had to compare Delta to anything previously idol related it would be AKB0048, but that only makes sense because that was also by Kawamori.

>but can you see how it might be kinda weird?
Only as weird as 7 was weird. I could see how the first episode was pretty jarring but not up to now

>>14156614
>>14161466
The original series also had a scene where the Zentradi archivist and some humans discussed the possibility that the Protoculture influenced the development of many species before being wiped out by their genetically engineered warriors in a civil war about half a million years ago. Whether humans were just one of their works or the pattern for many others was left a bit vague.

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>>14162110
You sound like a queer.
Just enhoy the goddamn jet fighter robots and jpop, christ.

>>14162599

Former more than the latter, thank you.

It's like with each new series people forget Macross was always stupid.

>>14162634
or how music was always a important part in macross
pretty sure is new people getting into the franchise

>>14162599
Who has the best paint scheme in the Delta squadron?

>>14162652
Hayate's.

>>14162652
Jenius.

I want to go back to talking about bridge bunnies and jellyfish that are using a human host already

>>14162652
I like Messer's. It's black like my soul.

But seriously, the skull design is cool

>>14162652
Messer, minus the reaper

>>14145066
>>14145143

Realism departed from Macross decades ago.

>You can't possibly be this slowpoke

Why is it that Ace Combat fags and /tg/ have the hardest time trying to digest Macross in any degree?

>inb4 planefag makes a Macross quest that is the opposite of everything

>>14162652
Arad. It's a nice take on the Toyota racing color scheme. I have this weird feeling that those same colors exist for an IRL race car team somewhere.

>>14162652
Hayate and Messer. But aside from the colors, Arad's is the sexiest.

>>14163374
>Ace Combat fags
>hard time trying to digest Macross
??? I'm an ace combat fag and I can handle this shit just fine. /tg/ I'm not so sure about.

>>14163374
As an old ACfag lemme tell you this: Ace Combat fans are absolutely fucking retarded.

Who's a good subgroup for Macross 7?

>>14163374

/tg/ is all about wargames and grimdarkness. They can't understand why a show would end in anything less than the total genocide of every non human species to have appeared on screen up until that point, for the glory of the emperor.

>>14163374
But I love Ace Combat and Macross

/tg/ is the dark and edgy like my soul board though