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They're finally here

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=796215

I don't know if the sub files are English or not, cause I just started downloading, but I'll get back to correcting HS's script this week, like I said I would.

I'll also retime if necessary and update the mega file. There are also a few errors from the first half that I need to correct, so I'll be updating those as well.
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Oh, and Hiroto's character song was ripped. I know many of y'all were looking forward to that.
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Sounds like Chinese simplified and traditional
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>>14030231
I've been waiting for this
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>>14030229
HONMONO DA
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>>14030323
What a qt
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Posting best girl because I can
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>>14031176
lemme upgrade ya
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>>14031176
But that's not Siebenherjar.
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>>14031191
Well I did say best girl, not seccond best girl
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Any noticeable BD improvements?
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>>14031429
They went over some things with some filter, it looks quite nice. Everything looks a little more polished.

I could just be misremembering from the TV rip, but there seems to be a little bit of cleaning up on the mouths when characters speak. It looks a little more fluid.
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14 and 15 are done.

I think there are a few things I need to touch up, but here you go in the meantime.
https://mega.nz/#F!gJFlFRTQ!50mlBOjg8zyAqk91a2ClLg
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>>14031927
Cool, thanks anon.
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>>14031927
thanks anon
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Quick couple of questions I've been meaning to ask:

1. How is Canon able to understand Kazuki
in Mk. Sein when they first meet if Sakura was TEACHING Canon Japanese on the island later? Does everyone know some other languages if the NUN is most likely speaking English to each other?

2. Anyone wonder how Fumihiko got that scar on his chin?

3. If both Kabuki and Soshi be reborn after several incarnations, will they probably be able to return to their original selves?
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>>14032655
1. She could have just been teaching Canon to write Japanese, not speak it. For all we know the characters are actually speaking english or some future universal language. That's always a little strange with anime.

2. We know he fought both Festum and humans in the past, easy enough to infer.

3. Nobody knows at this point, really. Going by Soushi, it seems more likely they'll be new people, like Tsubaki and Orihime.
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Have we had any new news, or still waiting for the May event?
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>>14033480
Still waiting
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>>14033480
>>14033507
What may event?
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>>14035199
There's going to be a big event on the 8th of May at the Yokohama Convention Hall, with basically all the VA's. It's hoped we're going to hear something about a Movie or something there.
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>>14031927

Thanks a lot, anon!
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>just started watching this
>BDs come out
fuck me
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>>14037743
BDs have been out for the first half for months
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>>14037743
Subs for the first half are retimed in the mega file.

There are still a few errors, however.
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>>14037788
What sub errors?
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>>14040654
I forgot to change Nishio referring to Akira as her "granddaughter" in episode 6(?) for one
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I'm watchin Dead agressor and it's some barely 480p rip shit but this is like

Evangelion with elementary kids or some shit, and I swear to god there have cicadas, generic school bell and "it can't be helped" in the span of 30 seconds.

The fuck is this show, why am I still watching it. The radios freaking out before everyone went all NERV was neat.


This show better get good you fucking cucks
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>>14040738
JEsus christ it's a fucking jelly angel and it just vaporized a group of school children, and this shit's more nautical feeling goddamn this is AWESOME
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>>14040760
While Fafner does at it's core take inspiration from Evangelion early on, the further you get it the more it diverges.

And the animation will be rough for the first series but every OVA, Movie and Series afterwards the quality just goes up.

Also if you start getting confused in the first 10 or so episodes, don't feel bad, you're supposed to be because you're meant to watch it from Kazuki's point of view. If you ever rewatch it after watching the entire series, you'll understand pretty much everything
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>>14040738
>This show better get good you fucking Koyous
What did he mean by this?
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>>14040877
I've been hooked in pretty fast. The world and setting's super fascinating and full of so many questions I want answered. I also like the characters already as well, like no one's offense or annoying yet. They all kind of get that shit's fucked and they need to deal with it.

Also like the Fafner design.

However jesus christ the soundtrack is fucking ripped from EVA at points, like goddamn the launch music.

thanks /m/ for telling me to check this shit out along with exodus the decade later sequel.
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>>14041370
Dead Aggressor -> Right of Left (OVA Prequel) -> Heaven and Earth (Movie sequel) -> Exodus (TV sequel)

Make sure you don't skip anything.
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Did anyone make webms of this show when it was airing? Some of the fight scenes are fucking great. especially the Gobain moves.
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>>14042365
The anon you will converse with exists in the past.

But yes there was someone doing them every week, hopefully webm bro notices this thread, I don't have much saved.
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Not webm bro but I've got a fair few of them saved
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>>14042438
I think that's about it for the more interesting ones I have.
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>>14042414
>hopefully webm bro notices this thread
What would you guys like? I don't wanna post spoilers if anon is still working his way through.
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Maya will get a happy ending in the end won't she?
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>>14043303
I was the anon that originally asked, can you post that part where the Mark nicht is fighting the diablo types and stabs one and assimilates it, throws the three dark circles to destroy another one, then assimilates the battleship cannon and kills and entire skyline of Festum It was cool as shit.
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>>14043349
I forgot to say it's in episode nine.
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>>14043349
Of courshe.

I've only got this part, but if you give me a bit, I'll see if I can make the whole sequence with the battleship.
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>>14043394
Could you start it off when he sends out the skewer?
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/r/ Sein vs Nicht webms
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Oh god not again, I swear if this ends in another Fenrir.

Poor fucking Soushi, he just wants these assholes to stop blowing up his mechs.
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>>14044394
HA
HAHA
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>14044398
The absolute madman, he actually fucking did. And called out his special move. However I'm banking on this all ending poorly.
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>>14044405
LEAVE NOW
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>>14044394
All I'm going to say is that you're in for one hell of a ride.

>Poor fucking Soushi, he just wants these assholes to stop blowing up his mechs.
Not exactly. You're certainly right about the "poor fucking Soushi" bit, though.
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>>14044405
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>>14044407
>>14044408
O-okay, I'll leave. Just wanted to update that this show went from
>the fuck is this eva ripoff on an island
to
>I fucking love this I need the next episode NOW

All those "best mecha of the last few years" posts about exodus dragged me in and I'm glad I went for it. Pls no, I don't want Soushi to suffer. I like him too much.
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>>14044394
>>14044405
Welcome to motherfucking Goubine. All you need to know is that Goubine is always the best.
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>>14044417
Keep popping in with your opinion!
Just don't click any images or read any spoilers.

Part of the best thing about Fafner threads is virgin watchers

Also if you love it right now you're in for a GREAT time.
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>>14044432
>you're in for a GREAT time
Let's not lie, anon. That's just mean.
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If anyone has any trouble with the philosophy-raws running hot on their machine with MPC-HC, try using mpv.
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WAIT, FUCKING WHAT
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>>14044458
Ah, I see you've met Thor's hammer.
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>>14044462
I actually meant the fucking massive plot dumps from ep 13 to 14 that just, jesus. So much stuff gets revealed. And the Mark Sein's giant or those UN models were just tiny, either way fug
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>>14044576
Welcome to the wonderful world of UN Fafners. They're fucking garbage. They become less terrible over time, but they never really match Tatsumiya's technology.
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>>14044576
>thought the reveals were going to take a break and things would even out

>the fucking eye wound reveal the fucking REBIRTH SHIT

I am not ready every time.
>>14044599
That must be it, saw another shot of one at the beach and it was definitely smaller scale. Fucking NUNs
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>>14044576
Sein is 35M irc, Gnossis are smaller than Nothungs which are 25M

Exodus's UN Fafners, well the Raphael, is fucking magnificent though.
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>>14044633
Oh, don't get to hating NUNs so early.

NUNs is just an organization that is easily manipulated by assholes in power because fighting mind reading aliens has made so much information NEED TO KNOW basis.

So most of the NUNs are just poor soldiers who are only given orders and have to fight horrible mind reading aliens while the higher up in the chain, the more you end up with crazy people in power who get to do crazy things because of how the political structure is.

Save your hatred of NUNs to named ones, while pitying the poor unnamed ones who are just being used as meat in the grinder.
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>>14044394
Worth checking out the drama CDs when you have time. The one that takes place a bit before Kazuki leaves the island has Soushi explaining that he actually respects Shoko and Koyo a lot, but talks shit about them and vandalized her graves because he doesn't want to make others think they should also sacrifice themselves.
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>>14044647
>Raphael
Dominions looks pretty good too.
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>>14044742
Which one?
The Gabriel or the ground-type?
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>>14044422
>Goubine
end yorselve
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>>14044417
>>14044408
>>14044394
>Soushi's room
Fuck fuck, I suspected something like that would happen but shit. He's had to feel all their deaths and fears and it sticks with him.

Also he's kind of a cute dork with the autism, this scene really pushed it

>soushi this room's a fuckin prison cell
>V-VENDING MACHINE, 11 STEPS AWAY. SO CONVENIENT
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>>14044835
You only wish you had a vending machine 11 steps away.
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>>14044647
Sein is 40 at the head, 45 if you count the fins, Nothungs are 35 at the head. The Gnosis models are just small.
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Anyone know what that flower that Kazuki accepted from Mir Shoko was called or symbolized?
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>>14044843
>grills show up in their yukatas
>half the squad goes nuts
>Shoushi just turns to Kazuki and yells "WHAT?"
Dude, come on.

Also Canon is cute! CUTE! And man Fumihiko is incompetent as fuck. Can't cook dinner, hardly commands anything before a pilot or Soushi goes "LET'S TRY THIS SHIT", he can't even make pottery. Don't hate him though.
>5 episodes left
Shit's been getting too comfy, things are going to go bad aren't they.
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>>14045191
Oh and Mizoguchi's still the fuckin best.
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>>14045191
Oh boy, I hope you keep posting your reactions.
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>>14045191
Oh so you've seen the "I am spartacus" bit with Maya's data already. Best episode.

And Fumihiko just needs to fuck Chizuru already and then things will be fine. We're still waiting.
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>>14045242
They just wiped a group of attackers without breaking a sweat or any drama. Things are getting WAY too comfortable oh no.
>>14045260
Ah the trial scene was fantastic yes! I'm amazed how much I'm enjoying all the character interactions in the show. The world building and mysteries, I expected to like those. But damn do I like a lot of the cast regardless of what jelly monster they last punched.
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If the relationship charts officially say Fumihiko and Chizuru love each other, then why don't they get married or openly express their feelings or SOMETHING? Is it because they feel obligated to their children, or Akane, or, different positions, or something else? In Exodus, there is a scene in the Kaburagi salon where someone from Alvis said a few people were already getting married (But there's also Sakura and Kenji getting married, but there's already an actually a reason for that). So, any real reasoning here?
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>>14045297
Their children probably played a big part in that up to Exodus, yeah. They're all adults now, but it'd be hard to try making your own life with Festum threats still on the horizon too.

They're both so awkward about the whole thing too, worse than any of the kids. Fumihiko's position as commander is the closest thing to an actual excuse at this point.
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>>14045280
>these niggas
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>>14045297
The movie explains that Fumihiko wants to keep his home a place Kazuki can always come back to. If he did marry Chizuru, either he would move out and Kazuki would come back to an empty house, or Chizuru would move in and Kazuki himself would feel obliged to move out.

Maybe also use spoilers as well, since there's one dude going through it the first time posting in here.
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>>14045333
>it's a homo /m/ episode

Of course. Also Sakura and Kenji oh shiiiiit, an anime that actually progresses relationships. Or even shows them at all like with Michio.
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>>14045191
>Fumihiko is incompetent

No, Fumihiko just is still wrestling with being in command. His personality is completely contrary to how war with Festum has been.

Once Fumihiko finally starts doing what he thinks is the right thing to do, he starts getting results.

There's a defiant moment in the later parts of the series where Fumihiko's ideology proves to be correct and not the current KILL OR BE KILLED.
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>>14045360
>Sakura collapses calling Kenji's name
>ED drops
NO FUCK YOU I JUST SAID OH CHRIST

FUCK
>>14045368
What's funny is I posted that right before the episode where his ideology is put into action. And Lo and behold, it worked. You're right too about that being his personality and not entirely bad of him to be like that. It just came off as poor command since so far it'd all been simple warfare.
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>>14045385
You're in the home stretch of suffering now.

Next couple episodes are gonna be fun.
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>>14045392
NO
>>14044416
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


YOU CAN'T DO THAT


GOUBAIN!
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>>14045472
See, you think having eject able cockpits is for pilot safety.

No, it's so that you can suffer when they eject and still get killed.
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>>14045385
>Slow version of the ED at the end of every sad episode
>Only a few times in the first half
>Last few episodes
>Every episode ends with it
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Fuck, man YOU better keep posting your reactions through Exodus.
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>>14045492
>Build fucking world saving mecha
>make a manga about it for your son
>your son PILOTS the mecha and becomes your MC
>son dies a fuckin hero

Tomatsu lived the dream, he had to pay the price. Everything's going tumbling down. And I'd be more worried about Soushi trapped in the roots but I've seen pictures of Exodus so I'm not that worried. Unless some double bad shit happens.
>>14045493
I didn't notice at first but now I can't get away from it.
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Are you there, new guy?

Keep feeding us your reactions all the way through Exodus :D
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Thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3FjEy1sANM
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>>14045529
Please don't use emoticons
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>>14045555
I remember you

Not even him, but ;_;
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>>14045526
>Tomatsu lived the dream, dream, he had to pay the price. Everything's going tumbling down.

You'll regret saying this
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>>14045508
>>14045529
Home stretch, halfway through episode 23. I gotta do the prequel OVA and film after this right? Then I'll be doing Exodus. If the thread's up and doesn't mind I'll dump any reactions that occur.

Man, what was it like hearing a sequel was happening 10 years later?

>>14045565
Xander pls, I don't need this right now.
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>>14045586
Yep, you've got it right
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>>14045586
Yeah, be sure to look for the [Festum] release of the Right of Left OVA, it's slightly extended.

I'm still amazed at the fact that a sequel happened at all. Though fans that have been with it longer probably think more about the fact that Exodus was announced in, what, 2011? The delays must have been hell.
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>>14045565
>>14045586

>fucking Chisato locking the door before getting assimiliated
Oh my god I fucking regreat EVERYTHING

IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE, NO YOU DON'T GET TO ACTIVATE FENRIR


WAIT THE COCKPIT

OH MY FUCKING GOD MICHIO


>credits

AAAAAAAAA
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>>14045647
Told you.
Fafner's one of the only series that not only has ejectable cockpits, but makes it a point that ejectable cockpits aren't a free out
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>>14045647
>>14045701
That still gets me with Michio on every rewatch. He was SO CLOSE
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>>14045731
>>14045701
It fucked me up bad since that small bit of hope gets so crushed.

>your soushi is in another castle
>akane clone's good and back, shit ton of data sent
>Koyou became a jelly fafner
>North pole attack commencing

Jesus fuck so much is going on. One episode left as well, damn.
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>>14045800
>Michio's bun officially in the Yumiko oven

THERE'S STILL HOPE
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>>14045800
>One episode left

I thought the Akane infodump was 24? Shouldn't there still be 25 and 26 left?
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Another thing I'm loving is that for all the EVA comparisons and similarities there's one thing that's amazing. They didn't run out of budget for the last third of the damn show.
>>14045820
Goes from episode 24 to Final Episode, which is 45 minutes long. So maybe this download has episode 25 and 26 as one?
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>>14045817
>Hope

Oh Anonymous, you don't even KNOW the meaning of the word HOPE yet
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>>14045838
I think the TV airing had 25 and 26 together, so yeah you're fine.
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CUT RIGHT THROUGH THAT FUCKING OCTOPUS WHALE THING'S STOMACH CANON AW YEAH
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>>14045913
It's a Leviathan class Festum.
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>>14045913
Best girl.
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Alright : This is just for future reference for you new guy.

I want you to pay special attention to the first fight scene in the movie when you watch it after the OVA. Since an important fact that will be super relevant in Exodus is only told to you there.

You'll probably still have questions but if you keep that in mind you'll catch on a lot quicker
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>>14045917
Wasn't sure if they'd fought one outside of the north pole yet. I'm terrible with names though.

Shit damn everything in this is so good. This fuckin Triumph, T-tsubaki tears, Soushi going full ruse.
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>>14045941
And you know the best part Anonymous?

The quality of Fafner is a fucking straight line up with no dips.
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>>14045941
>Soushi going full ruse
W A R O F A T T R I T I O N
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>I AM HERE!

>We can fly...if it's you and me.
>Isn't that right?

FUCKING YES

FUCKING YES, TRIUMPH AND VICTORY YOU GOLD JELLY SHITS
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>>14045984
WAIT NO SOUSHI YOU SHIT
DON'T DO THIS TO ME

>I am here

L-LEWD
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>>14045984
>>14045991
Based on these I'm assuming you finished it.

Have fun with all that suffering?
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>>14045951
I believe it, and it's what was pitched to me when I wanted to get into the series. Somewhere along the line I went from liking this show to absolutely loving it. Regret nothing.

God it's just, there's so much there. It was so fuckin interesting and engaging with how the plot was handled. there were dark elements but it never went edgy or pretentious and offputting. Characters were so damn likeable. Any time I disliked someone was due to a human mistake, selfishness or them being a shit. Yet it never dragged on for so many episodes that I grew frustrated. People moved on or adapted. Or straight up died. And the tone just hooked me. It's a great mix of dark fucked up shit but tons of lighthearted upbeat moments. It didn't get mired in how horrible and hopeless shit is like most things in this style do. Yet it doesn't go perfectly sunshine and rainbows.

Good people won, yet they'd also get a big fuck you from the universe at times instead. The action was enjoyable as were the Fafners. I loved the ballistic missiles housing equipment. The Festum are some of my favorite types of mysterious aliens. They had that creepy human/robotic look and took in egyptian designs as well. It's the Angel/whatever they were called in Argento Soma archetype which I'm a sucker for, but handled with way more lore than usual. The goddamn worldbuilding too, it tied into why I kept watching. I was always filled with questions and any time I got answers I had a whole new stack of questions to go with it. I loved the pilots, kids that are so damn easy to screw up. I loved central command. Shit I loved the sorta alium hybrid super powerful child girl. I loved the old lady! I really liked Soushi, best boy, why'd he have to suffer so much.

I just had such a great time. Maybe I'm gushing too much or overreacting but it all clicked so well for me. It hit all the right spots.


I went form this
>>14040738
>>14040760


To well, this post.
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>>14046029

Glad to see you had fun, anon.

Now enjoy Heaven&Earth and Exodus.
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>>14046059
And Right of Left.
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>>14046029
>Maybe I'm gushing too much or overreacting but it all clicked so well for me. It hit all the right spots.
Ultimately that's why we're all still here, with Exodus over now.

The cast is always what kept me on, one of those cases in anime where they really start to feel like a strange extended family thanks to the fleeting moments of peace, between all the suffering we have to watch them go through.
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>>14046077
>The cast is always what kept me on, one of those cases in anime where they really start to feel like a strange extended family thanks to the fleeting moments of peace, between all the suffering we have to watch them go through.

Which will make that one thing that happens in Exodus all the more goddamn devastating when you reach the midpoint of the episode it's in and realize "OH SHIT, NO, NO STOP YOU CAN'T DO THAT" and then it happens.

whyyyyyyyyyy
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>>14046029
Alright, where the fuck do I start with Fafner.
You've convinced me anon
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>>14046108
First episode of the TV show that isn't Exodus. Watch through all of it, then watch Right of Left, then watch Heaven And Earth (well really you could reverse the order of those two, but make sure you do RoL BEFORE Exodus) and then do Exodus.
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>>14046108
Watch Fafner Dead Agressor the 2004 anime. Then the 2005 OVA prequel Right of Left. Then the anime movie Heaven and Earth.
Then the 2014 Fafner Exodus anime.
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>>14045297
Intentional sequel hype
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>>14046102
E RANK LUCK

I think what makes it worse is that You see baby Canon in the new OP and you suddenly realize that Canon's life pre destruction of Dublin was likely awful as well, even with her Mom alive
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>>14046108
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=464659

Clench your teeth.
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>>14046059
>>14046077
I most certainly will enjoy the rest of this. My only regret is not getting the bluray and diving in that way like I usually do with lesser known shows. But I'll hop on Right of Left then call it a night.

Is that english novel any good
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>>14046102
Oh, glad to see you ended up making it through.

But yeah.

Yeah.

;_;
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>>14046174
It's worth reading if you're that into the series.

Basically an alternate take on the first six episodes, but with a lot of interesting early ideas that aren't really compatible with the anime. Pretty noticeably different in some cases, Soushi might as well be a different character.
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>>14045984
by the ending of s2 the japanese lines wo;; ne burned into your brain
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>>14045984
by the ending of s2 the japanese lines will be burned into your brain
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>>14046189
>>14046174

Conveniently, our Wiki admin just finished the article on the book today.

http://alvis.towerofmist.net/index.php?title=Fafner:_Dead_Aggressor_%28Light_Novel%29
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>>14046209
We still need more contributors there too, if anyone feels up to it.

Though obviously, new guy and anyone just catching up, virtually every page has at least indirect spoilers in some form, I wouldn't advise poking around the wiki before finishing Exodus.
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>>14046209
>>14046189
Has me interested enough, and it's some physical stuff. I'll check it out. Also fuck I just realized that I was watching a full on TV rip. So that whole time I thought the random shit on the screen saying "kotokiya won the gold in 100 meter swimming!" meant something, it was just a goddamn news update. I had nearly forgotten about that.
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>tfw comfy Fafner thread
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>>14046259
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>>14045848
Who /KIBOU/ here?
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>>14046647
Who /GOUBAIN/ here?
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Is anyone watching IBO?

I think Ein became Fafner.
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>>14044835
>he's kind of a cute dork with the autism
You really haven't seen anything yet.

>YOU WILL SOON LEARN
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>2016
>there are people who still say "Goubain"
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I've been hearing this from /m/ since a while back, but is Kenji the only child not genetically engineered originally from the island? As in, he was born naturally off of the island?
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>>14047726

That comic book... no...
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>>14047859
No.
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>>14047859
That wouldn't make much sense, he can pilot a Nothung model so has to have the Festum factor like everyone else.
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If there is ever a sequel for Fafner, what would someone expect out of it (if any at all)?
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>>14048217
Personally I'd just expect them to finish off the remaining plot lines left after Exodus finished. Dealing with Altair, returning etc. And that being the end of it.

With that being said though, I would absolutely be down with them doing some prequel storylines around the time when the Festum first arrived
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>>14048217
Deal with anything that Exodus left hanging, finally find some way to end the human-Festum war.

And just show us how everyone ends up, really. Have Fumihiko and Chizuru fuck already it's been 12 years jesus christ. Have Rina use Sui's first name.
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Why did Billy still defend his brother to Maya when he was about to shoot her for killing Dustin? Did he really respect his brother that much?
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>>14048329
Family is Family.
Billy was just another poor stupid uninformed military grunt.

He started out wanting to believe in everyone, but then his brother killed a bunch of innocent people and then those innocent people mobbed and murdered people who had connection to his brother and if they learned that Dustin WAS his brother, he'd have probably been mobbed too.

So he ran when given the chance and tried to talk to his brother but Dustin stone walled him.

Then all the shit goes down and he's left with all his old friends telling him to go murder his new friends and at the end he was probably going to shoot just because he couldn't find an answer.
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>>14048329
I mean, he was his brother. As far as we can see possibly the only family he had.

It was rushed and a little unsatisfying how that ended up, but we only knew Dustin for being a piece of shit, Billy had more than that. I doubt Billy even knew about Hiroto, either.
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I still love Maya as a pilot.

My favorite detail is how she completely reinvents her piloting style after getting blown out by the Scarab and Nicht.

It's never explicitly stated, you just suddenly realize she never locks herself in place anymore and instead prioritizes high mobility and fast movement.
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>>14048955
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>>14048972
>The little moment where she autolocks on to the cockpit and then has to reaim at the start
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Reminder that skyfags are cancer.

Walker did nothing wrong and was just being manipulated by a sky-affiliated Festum.
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>>14047859
Kenji was still genetically modified in the womb, he was just the only live birth IIRC. The others were grown in tubes.
>>14048383
I get the feeling that Billy wouldn't have pulled the trigger. Either way the point was that indecision was his fatal character flaw.
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Fuck, just started Heaven and Earth. It's goddamn GORGEOUS for one. And also oh god the beginning bit. I hope that crystal survived otherwise does this mean Soushi's been rebuilding but keeps getting fucking bombed to bits by NUN? And oh fuck Kazuki's really blind shit
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>>14050190
OH AND OH FUCK CANON WITH LONG HAIR
I LIKE SHORT HAIR ON GRILLS BUT DAMN

THIS IS GUD
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>>14050190
Just making sure, you didn't skip Right of Left, right?
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>>14050215
Nope, I did not skip Suffer of Suffering. That shit was dope but damn I don't know why I thought someone would make it. Even knowing the outcome too.
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>>14050224
>festum just made a fuckin gun
This is not going to end well.
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>>14046259
>posting the censored version.
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>>14050311
>Former NUNs being glorious motherfuckers
And I was not expecting this much plot development in a single movie. So much more is getting tossed into the lore while also revealing some past stuff.
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>>14050469

Also remember friendo, you want the extended episode 1 of Fafner Exodus. It's got like 15 minutes more content.
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>>14050475
>Makabe takes a shot in the fuckin arm and still goin
>Kenji going full last stand senpai
>Canon fighting off the Fenrir
>KOYO OUT OF NOWHERE

And it all looks so good too, y'all weren't lying about the quality just going up. Right of Left was an improvement as well.

I'll make sure I get the extended episode for sure.
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>>14050518
>Soushi walking through the water as sunlight radiates his hair and Kazuki cries
>first thing he sees is him
TOP HOMO

BEST END
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>>14050518
>KOYO OUT OF NOWHERE

Oh, if you thought that was a surprise in HaE...
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>yfw baby end

Fafner babies is still ridiculously dumb sounding
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>>14050230
>Implying the love of all Canons is anything but patrician taste
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Oh yes, by the way new guy.

Just for your information, Kazuki was in a coma for 1 of the 2 years between DA and HAE.

It's information not stated in the movie but on the movie website. Just thought you'd care to know
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>tfw you will never watch Fafner for the 2nd time again
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>>14051279
>tfw ywn watch Exodus for the 12th time again
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>>14050195
Short hair Canon > long hair Canon.
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>>14051313
>tfw ynw Fafner period

Survival mecha isn't my cup of tea anyway.
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>>14051638
It's about KIBOU though
>>14051633
Starfish Canon > Long Hair Canon > Kaburagi JUSTified Hair Canon
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>>14051654
Survival carries with it hope for a future.
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>>14042438
If SDP is tied to the pilot, then why is Dreizehn still using time h4x?

It's cause she's not really gone.
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Is Fafner as series any good?
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>>14052300
Yes.
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>>14052305

how is it compared to the Gundam franchise? IBO really sucked so I need something new.
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>>14052310
Not similar.

I won't get into any fanbase wars, but unless you're the kind to throw a fit about 3dcg, Fafner's production values are vastly superior *to IBO's.

Dead Aggressor might look a little unpolished, but it never really stoops into eggregious QUALITY.
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>>14052310
Even as a fan of both they're hard to compare. Fafner's first season starts off feeling vaguely Eva-like but goes in its own direction pretty quick, more than the mecha it helps if you're interested in a very character-driven series. Plus it's all one continuous story.

See >>14046029 for a new viewer exploding about it, too.
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>>14052296
Isn't it actually because all the SDPs are Festum powers, and Kurusu is a Festum anyway and at one point notes that he's aware of what Canon was doing?
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>>14052333

No I am fine with CG if its well-made. What are the main charatcers fighting against? Aliens or other humans?
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>>14052344
They're fighting against A

NA

TA

NA

SOU

KO

NI

I

MA

SU

KA?
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>>14052341
Well yeah, but I wanted to post feelsguy.

Also, we didn't see any other Festum use the future vision except for Orihime and Canon, and while it isn't a stretch to believe Kurusu was doing it himself he did, yes, say "she" was showing him the many different 'nows'

>>14052344
Ayy lmaos.

It's Orange CG from the movie on, so it's breddy top notch.
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>>14052357

wut lol?

>>14052359

Fighting against Ayy lmaos sounds exciting!
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>>14052370
>wut lol?
You will soon learn.
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>>14052372

I guess grabbing the release from Daman is acceptable right?
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>>14052370
あなたはそこにいますか?
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>>14052381
No. Look for the philosophy raws one.
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>>14052381
>Daman
yuck

Try Phil-Raws for Dead Aggressor.

Actually, I forgot I have a DDL of almost everything.

Hold tight.
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>>14052384

Oh wow you weren't kidding.
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>>14052381
Daman's release is just okay for the most part, but they have an issue where they never allow two layers of subtitles at once. Like if there are subtitles translating a sign or document, no dialogue subtitles will appear if someone starts talking. Gets really fucking annoying at some parts, especially since there are quite a few relevant scenes where this happens.
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>>14052387

>>14052391

Ok, I am waiting for the dl link, very weird that animebytes don't have that release
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>>14052397

Apparently a certain philosophy raw release is better.
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>>14052391
>>14052401

These are in viewing order.

Dead Aggressor--just the episodes
>https://mega.nz/#F!kdERwLhZ!fsQc-QSgUujrBPaeIZK8iA
>Right of Left (muxed with [Festum] subs)
https://mega.nz/#!gYMAHQQB!3xIXalRfP4XpUDURG0rEqzQVujM_6Q_Eg4aqKcV1qa0
>Heaven & Earth (although you could get the YYDM fans one) Daman is shit, and requires that extra sub package.
https://mega.nz/#!VMsBxIqK!-xTA6FOcgDsbp8LjpMRWFL7JCW3zJuJEpl41I7fB9F8
>Exodus S1 (I think they have subs muxed. If not they're in OP's link)
https://mega.nz/#!VMsBxIqK!-xTA6FOcgDsbp8LjpMRWFL7JCW3zJuJEpl41I7fB9F8

I'm waiting for OP to finish retiming all of S2 (and for all of it to be released) before I upload it.

As for Exodus, it might run hot on your system, but MPV seems to work really nicely on my machine ;^). If you have a problem, you can just get the FLsnow release off nyaa and get the subs from OP's link.
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>>14052405
>>14046145
It's a lot of space, just keep in mind.

If that's too much the DDL from anon might be your best bet.
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>>14052417
Fucked up muh greentext.
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>>14052421

That's actually amazing, thanks dude! No worries about the greentext, it's perfectly readable.

>>14052419

I might downloading them both to upload them on animebytes if you guys don't mind.
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>>14052426
I don't have a problem, but you might wanna wait on Exodus. Didn't OP say there are some sub errors still lingering he wants to fix?

I changed the filenames myself because I'm an autistic faggot, so just be sure to credit the encoder.
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>>14052436

Alright, is the same release uploaded as torrent on nyaa?
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>>14052445
Yeah.

DA is from PhilRaws here http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=464659

Right of Left is the PhilRaws encode see above link, but with subs from [Festum] here http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=721107 Difference is [Festum] an Anon from here from last summer actually translated the extra parts archive is kill so I don't remember entirely, but he should get credit for his efforts. I believe he just took the Ureshii script and set it to work with the extended version as softsubs

H&E is from PhilRaws here http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=464428

Exodus is from PhilRaws here http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=749723 subs are modified Crunchy/Horrible
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>>14052465
>Difference is
resolution
Goddamn. Time for sleep.

Anyways, I hope you enjoy it as much as the rest of us have. It really is something special.
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>>14052466

Now I have no choice but to watch it after so much effort by you guys, good night man and thanks!
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>>14052715
But every Fafner couple is best, anon.

Why do they all have to suffer?
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>>14052798
If they did not suffer then it wouldn't be Fafner would it.
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>>14052344
DUDE
AYY
LMAO
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>>14052417
Same link's for Exodus as for Heaven and Earth.
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>>14052417
>>14053776
Fixed Exodus link

https://mega.nz/#F!EF1kmR7L!6hWiZ73INbmg816xlCqjmQ

Sorry
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>>14046029
That's okay anon, us fafnerfags know what a beautifull gem this series is and we know exactly what you mean.

I'm just glad some people get assimilated to join us every now and then.
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>>14046108
Good luck anon! I hope you brought something to cheer you up, because you are in for the feels train.
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>>14046259
Every Fafner thread is comfy....

right until you remember one of these >>14046285 moments
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>>14052715
Seri deserved happiness
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>>14052715
But they weren't a couple.

Also, his Goubain swag was pretty weak sauce compared to Mamoru. Mimika isn't a true Goubain yet cause she hasn't died but she's pretty stronk.
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>>14052417
Do those dead aggressor files fix the sub placement problem the philosophy files had for people using xy-VSfilter or are they the philosophy files unchanged?
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>>14055094
Stop using that shitty subtitle render, mate. Use mpv or MPC HC's internal subtitle render.
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>>14055094
I'm not using antiquated software, so no, I didn't change anything as I don't have a problem.
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>>14055114
Since when was MPC's internal sub renderer better?
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So did we figure out yet if it's giving the helmet away that dooms people or piloting Mark Fumfs?
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>>14055123
Since forever.

mvp is a way better media player anyway.
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>>14055144

It's Mark Fünf and its variants.

Someone here pointed out the robot Olga got in back in the day was Fünf.
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>>14055065
He just didn't design his own Goubain attack, that means he has to be the one to finish the GOUBEIN DYNAMIC SPECIAL whenever it happens. Otherwise Hiroto was great in Exodus.
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>>14056553
Speaking of which, posting best Goubine attack.
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>>14030229
I've been meaning to watch Fafner series. Is this the original/first series? Is there a chart or guide for the franchise viewing order?
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>>14056641
>>14046145
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>>14056641
>>14052417
>>14053780
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I still can't believe Hester got off scot-free in Exodus.
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This thread is unbelievably comfy and we're getting new watchers, wonderful.
I've been putting my friend through Fafner since a while, we're almost at the end of Exodus now. He's seething with rage against Hester and the warcrime squad
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I find it pretty hilarious that watching Fafner made me appreciate YuYuYu even more and having watched that improved my experience with Fafner in return.
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Episode 16 is done. Sorry for the delay. Hopefully I'll get to 17 tomorrow.

https://mega.nz/#F!gJFlFRTQ!50mlBOjg8zyAqk91a2ClLg

>>14058531
>This thread is unbelievably comfy
I think it's cause we haven't had a proper thread in a good while.
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>>14058648
>we haven't had a proper thread in a good while.
Anons didn't aprove of me keeping the generals going after the series ended.
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>>14059322
You post a good thing too many times and you run the risk of /m/ trying to ruin it.
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>>14058648
What settings did you input to get that video quality?
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>>14059322
Isn't really needed with the show over, if someone wants to talk about Fafner then one will pop up and there will be discussion then.

Trying to artificially prolong a general with no new material will just devolve into contrarian shitposting eventually. It's not Gundam, there isn't enough material for that kind of staying power.

tldr; Enjoy the comfy now, let it die and the comfy will eventually be reborn.
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>>14059322
The last general was when my mom died.
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>>14053780
Is there any possibility of upload it on any other website or torrent? seems that I can't download from mega with any browser. Tried with chrome, opera and mega and it always says "out of memory". Tried with Edge too, but it freeze at 97-98%.

Thanks.
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>>14059367
>>14059673
I'm on my way to see The Who, but I'll take a look at mega either tonight late, or tomorrow.
I'll post the mpv command tonight as well.
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>ywn Soushi's boypussy
This shouldn't hurt as much as it does
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>>14060012
>boy
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>>14060190
What? Soushi is not a rival from a certain comic series, he is not a hermaphrodite, he is a boy with a male penis
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>>14059673
Thought you were referring to my post with the subs. Responded to the wrong thing cause mobile posting and didn't follow the chain. Anyways, read the thread.

>>14059367

--hwdec=vdpau vo=opengl-hq:scale=ewa_lanczossharp:cscale=ewa_lanczossoft
video-sync=display-resample
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What does it feel like to find salvation with Jesus Makabe?
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Why was Hester allowed to live?
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>>14061247
Not the subs, the Exodus episodes. FL raws need a lot of space that I don't have right now to store a series, that's why I wanted to download your version. But well, I'll save HS version then.
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>>14061815
Not subgut, but I didn't reencode anything. If you have a half decent bittorrent client you should just be able to elect to download the episodes only.
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>>14062318
Nah, nevermind. I completely forgot that I can download them using jdownloader. This is what happens when you always use torrent.

But thanks for your work, anon.
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Why doesn't Canon's SDP have her become more gaunt or shallow in figure because she loses so much mass from jumping into the future besides jumping into the future as a side-effect? For example, there's Mimika's ball-ness/shields, Reo was losing his body due to holes/ teleporting, Rina's sleepiness, Sui's heaviness, ETC. Wasn't it Orihime that said that the Island would protect their minds but not their bodies?
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>>14062928
There's some interesting theoretical physics that a person is not their mass at any given point, but instead they are that mass converted into pure energy. Basically a corollary of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, if you care to look up more. Based on some of what Soushi said in Kazuki's dream in Ep. 18 and actually on the shore in Ep. 14, it leads me to believe that this is what was intended to be the idea behind what happened to Canon. So her "essence" actually was protected, but at the cost of her body. Add to that, Tow is a damn good Sci-Fi writer, so it makes me think he's done his research. Furthermore, given what /faf/ has put together on the nature of SDP and how it correlates with energy states etc., etc. I don't think it's far fetched.

I've been operating under the assumption that she isn't "dead", in the sense that Akira or Hiroto are, but that shr achieved that cool nirvana state Mjolnir said the Festum have been searching for back in DA.
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>>14063063
>damn good sci-fi writer
>only thing worth a damn he ever wrote for is Faf and the Mardock Scramble books

:3
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>>14063147
He is a regularly published mainstream novel writer before he is a anime/manga/videogame writer
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>>14063147
>小説[編集]
>『黒い季節』(イラスト:天野喜孝、角川書店、1996年 のち文庫 イラスト:獅子猿)
>『ばいばい、アース』角川書店、2000 のち文庫
>『微睡みのセフィロト』(イラスト:伊藤真美、徳間デュアル文庫、2002年/ のちハヤカワ文庫 2010年 イラスト:獅子猿)
>『カオス レギオン』富士見ファンタジア文庫、2003
>『カルドセプト創伝 ストーム・ブリング・ワールド』(イラスト:さめだ小判、メディアファクトリー〈MF文庫J〉2003)
>星の降る都市
>星を輝かせる者
>『ストーム・ブリング・ワールド』(イラスト:山本ヤマト、メディアファクトリー(MF文庫ダ・ヴィンチ) 『カルドセプト創伝』を加筆修正、エピソード追加、ストーリーを大幅改稿したもの
>マルドゥック・シリーズ
>『マルドゥック・スクランブル』ハヤカワ文庫、2003
>『マルドゥック・スクランブル〈改訂新版〉』早川書房、2010
>『マルドゥック・スクランブル〔完全版〕』ハヤカワ文庫、2010
>『マルドゥック・ヴェロシティ』ハヤカワ文庫、2006
>『マルドゥック・フラグメンツ』ハヤカワ文庫、2011
>『蒼穹のファフナー』メディアファクトリー・電撃文庫、2004
>『シュヴァリエ』日経BP社、2006
>シュピーゲル・シリーズ
>『オイレンシュピーゲル』角川文庫、2007
>『スプライトシュピーゲル』富士見ファンタジア文庫、2007
>『テスタメントシュピーゲル』角川スニーカー文庫、2009
>『天地明察』角川書店、2009年 のち文庫
>『OUT OF CONTROL』ハヤカワ文庫、2012
>『光圀伝』角川書店、2012年 のち角川文庫
>『もらい泣き』集英社、2012
>『はなとゆめ』角川書店、2013

I would say that he's a prolific writer.
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>>14063196
>>14063322
While I disagree with >>14063147

Prolific isn't indicative of it being "worth a damn"

Also, the Mardock animation was superb, the medium was just a little odd.
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>>14063443
He also wrote Le Chevalier D'Eon, which is apparently a good series (although not /m/).
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>>14063443
That's why I never said anything about the quality of its writings, just that he has wrote lots of novels, certainly more than just Fafner and Mardock.
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>>14063505
Yeah but when someone puts Tow and "damn good sci fi writer" together you have to question if the poster is Japanese or is putting a lot of faith in Faf/Mardock/other few things (except for Psycho Pass 2 because everyone's quick to thumbs down PP2) as indicative of his quality, as the available works with which one can evaluate his quality are kinda limited if you're an EOP.

But then again the same can be said of many well regarded Japanese writers. Chohei Kambayashi has a body of work that has regularly steamrolled the Seiun awards and yet all we've got in the West is most of Yukikaze and an OVA adaptation of part of his Enemy Is Pirates series.
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>>14063527
Well, a prolific writer can be a good one, just look a Brandon Sanderson dropping novel after novel without any dip in their quality.

You do have a point in that we don't really know any of Tow's other works, and that anon is assuming a lot after just two series (one of them being anime which is a entirely different medium than a regular novel.)

Fafner's case is really problematic because the direction, sound design and voice acting influence a lot of what we consider a "good anime"
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>>14063527
>>14063581
You can't compare a novel written by only one person and an anime that has a team that worked on it. Fafner is not only Ubukata, is a bunch of people sharing their ideas and working in their speciality to give (supposedly) the best. Try to imagine this series with other staff, or just people who works well but don't like the serie (or thinks that this is just another job like any other previous anime).

I think that Fafner has a bunch of people that really likes/love the story and every part of it.
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>>14063856
Yeah, an anime is a "team" effort. A novel is mostly a "solo" endeavor, even if an editor can help you to trim the story a bit, the author does almost all the work.
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So : On a scale of 1 to 10, how big is Seri's suffering going to be when she wakes up from her nap?
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>>14064593
I mean, waking up would mean the island is back and Miwa's ready to talk to Altair, so it's not all bad. Just no Orihime.

Gonna be weird if she didn't age like everyone else though.
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>>14063063
Actually, I think it's more all of them are in Tatsumiya Heaven, and her and Shouko just happen to be the usual spokespeople for it (then that one time it was Hiroto when Akira was dying).

>>14064640
>Gonna be weird if she didn't age like everyone else though.

Consider that Kouyou definitely aged after he turned into a Festum, and he was just sitting on his thumbs possibly comatose between HaE and Exodus. So she probably will.
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>>14064742
>D-Island
Look up the legend of the Dragon Palace.

Also, Seri didn't become a Festum, she wasn't even assimilated. Orihime had Altair stop that shit.
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>>14064742
That's always a little weird. Like Soushi too, Bollearios must have just made an educated guess for how much his new body would have grown.

But Seri isn't a Festum, at least not any more than the rest of the kids. I assumed Altair and her were pretty much put into total stasis, things like food would be an issue for Seri otherwise.

But the real result probably just comes down to "whatever Tow wants".
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>>14064747
>>14064752
Seri died in the first half of the show, and like Miwa's mother she was brought back. So I'm not sure what she counts as, but I'm going with some sort of Mir-spawned Festum.
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>>14064747
>Depending on the version of the legend, it is built from red and white coral, or from solid crystal.

>solid crystal
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>>14064760
No, she didn't. People like to say this but there's no actual evidence she was far gone enough to die, her SDP activated in time to save her life.

Yumiko (and Emery as we found out) were both brought back by the wishes of powerful Esperanto, and it clearly showed. Yumiko was a very different person before and after, even if her love for Miwa still got through.

Seri was exactly the same as before, had SDP side effects like the rest of the pilots, and wasn't on any kind of time limit like those two. Tatsumiya's Mir can't just bring people back to life at will, most probably can't except special cases like with Miwa involved.
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>>14064773
SDPs can be given to Festum, Kouyou got one (And it was specifically an SDP instead of just Festum powers because Orihime said it was). Meanwhile, she was very, very dead in that cockpit.

My personal belief is that she did die that day, and while there was no Esperanto around, there WAS an Orihime, who had a very vaunted interest in keeping her alive. I support this by noting that the only things Seri was incapable of eating through her SDP were the island and Orihime, which would make sense if she was revived by them because Festum don't assimilate themselves. And before you say it's a size thing, don't, she ate that fucking Leviathan tentacle and while that wasn't as big as the island, she was around it for far less.
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>>14064761
The island will have gotten encapsulated in assimilated crystals?

She's in some non/extra-dimensional space with Altair anyways. Or maybe portal mirrors are a regular thing in the Pacific Ocean?

Also, just a thought. Dragon Palace is the Gordian Crystals. Tatsumiyajima is just the Island, not the actual palace.
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>>14064791
Man, you missed out.

We've already discussed this.

SDP is Festum power. They are not separate concepts. You can't treat them as such.

Also, Orihime's glowing eyes kick in when she wants to see if someone is alive or not, see Episode 16 re: Olga.

The "blood" is hydraulic fluid.
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>>14064791
I'm just glad you didn't mention Orihime telling Seri to wake up and her eyes glowing gold. People have brought that up for your same argument, even though Orihime was clearly, you know, using her specific power to awaken everyone's SDP.

But we might just have to agree to disagree. Yeah that shot of the cockpit looks bad, and believe me I was wailing when I thought Seri died, but it just doesn't add up with what we know of Mir. She doesn't line up with either Yumiko and Emery, OR Soushi and Kazuki, the only ways we know Mir can save people's lives. If it was the case, personally, I think the show would have made more noise about it. That's not something there would be any need to keep ambiguous, especially in 26.
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>>14064803
>SDP is Festum power. They are not separate concepts. You can't treat them as such.

But then where in the world did Kouyou manage to bullshit up the poison power from? And why did no other Festum use that? I mean, it's similar to what some of the Azazel types were doing, but it's not exact. I'd say "same with Canon's time powers" but then Kurusu definitely at least knew what she had done, so.
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>>14064818
Before Vagrant used his Light assimilation powers, we hadn't seen that used. We hadn't seen Tron discs before the Diablos either.

As to where they come from, like Orihime says, these powers are willed into being by the entity's "being" --read the creative staff's collective ass.
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>>14064818
Not that anon, but Mjolnir mentions in DA that time as a concept isn't viewed by Festum the same as humans, it's just one of "the gravities that form the world". Considering Orihime, powerful enough Festum might be able to see the future just as easily as they would read minds.

The SDPs all take one specific Festum power and push it to its natural extreme, as far as we can tell. So all Festum have "Super Dimensional Power", yes, but you're right that Kouyou and Kurusu still got some kind of "gift" from the island. My theory is that those two might have had those powers to some extent already, but their Fafner-born SDP boosted them enough to be noteworthy.
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>>14064816
It'll all be made clear in the sequel, at least. Whether she's alive or dead is a pretty big question.

I was going to mention the wake up bit, although in the context of "why Seri and not Sui, who was also downed", but then she actually gives a shit about Seri so that's that question answered.


>>14064845
What was Kurusu's power anyway? He acts like it's Canon, or some manner of ghost in the machine that's doing the actual predictions and not him.

...actually, for that matter. What the fuck are Hiroto and Maya's powers? I just realized I have no idea. Not sure on Akira's either. Did they just miss out?
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>>14064856
Hiroto missed out. Akira's was seemingly identical to Rina's, going by 24. Maya's seemed to let her see multiple targets at once, from a brief scene in 25.

And Kurusu's just seems to slow down time around him, so it's like he's moving at super speed. Look how expanded that one second is. I think he was just talking to Dreizehn, because Kurusu is Kurusu.
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>>14064856
Hiroto got zapped before he was able to manifest any.

Akira's seemed to be similar to Kenji's.

No clue on Maya.

As to Kurusu 2? Presumably anything, as he was born a full blown Festum mixed with Mir, whereas Koyou became a Festum.

>>14064891
There's some disagreement apparently on the later things.
I think Maya's Kirascope could've just been the Einherhjar package. It's not like we can compare it to an upgraded Zehn though.
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>>14064891
>Maya's seemed to let her see multiple targets at once, from a brief scene in 25.

Oh, I thought that was just advanced Eihenjar targeting systems. It would make sense if it was just her, I guess.

>I think he was just talking to Dreizehn, because Kurusu is Kurusu.

Makes sense to me.
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>>14064900
>I think Maya's Kirascope could've just been the Einherhjar package.
Yeah I considered this, but I'm not sure.

In the novel where everyone had random mutant abilities, Maya was hyper-observant and could pick things up from the tiniest details. I wouldn't put it past Tow to have referenced that.
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>>14064900
>No clue on Maya.
It looked like it just let her lock on more.
>>14048972
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>>14064904
Yeah, Also, re: Akira. I'm just basing this on what he said here.
Rina goes on to say she'll shoot more than before. So it made it sound as if they were separate things. Maybe Akira was just saying he'd take the assimilation strain on himself, and it's some property of the Nibelung system in the Zero that lets him isolate the assimilation factor to a single pilot.
I actually kinda suspect that maybe he and Maya hadn't been home long enough to develop any SDP. I know Canon and Sakura got SDPs when they sortie for the first time, but they had been on the island for a decent chunk of time (maybe a little over a month) since the Gordian Crystals started growing. Considering what we know about the island's Mir influencing the islanders via the air, maybe Sakura and Canon were already "primed" so to speak. Same thing with Kenji. Regarding Kouyou, he doesn't whip out his big sword until he crosses with the island. Given what we know about how rapidly Festum exchange information, I think the island just buffed his already prodigious powers. Still mad we didn't get to see the gigantic blue ayy lmao in actual combat.
>>14064906
That looks mechanical to me. All the other SDPs have had a more obvious "alien" flavor.
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>>14064938
300 seconds later in paint
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>>14064938
I definitely took that as taking the assimilation strain from her. That's why Rina was so against it, Akira just got out of a near-coma from assimilation, and the Zero is much worse than Zehn.

Also the Zero had to be healed by Kenji's Troopers, so.

Your idea about them not developing would make sense, but this scene seems to indicate otherwise, both of the twins are amplifying Zero's power.
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>>14064953
Could be a mistranslation?
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So what happened to the new guy, anyway?

We still need Exodus reactions.
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>>14064593
If she has aged while sleeping she'll be leaving her Fafner quite .... hairy.

Still Seri deserves better than what she has gotten so far. Her boyfriend is dead, he adoptive daughter will probably be gone, her island is invaded, she can't go outside because she assimilates everything, she's left behind in Limbo sleep and lets not forget the time she got killed.

Being Seri is suffering
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>>14065109
On the bright side, the longer she sleeps the more likely there'll be a cure for the SDP side effects.

Not like Kenji and Chizuru are just gonna quit now that the fighting's on hold.
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>>14065109
>boyfriend
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>>14065117
Silly teenagers who keep denying their love life
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Just finished Exodus. Man, fuck Hester.
Her blatant plot armour a mile thick was consistently frustrating. I can't stand the plot device of "slaughter mooks, leave leader alive". Michael and Domon had plenty of chances and yet they kept killing everybody in the room but her. Then Toumi kills Fafner pilots but leaves Hester alive. Quite annoying.
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>>14065134
>Michael and Domon
W-who?

At least she was useful against Vagrant, but yeah, maybe next time.
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>>14065142
...
Where the fuck did Michael come from. Jonathan. That's who I mean. And whatshisname, Burns's guy. Dylan? My memory sucks.

This is probably the Festum's fault.
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>>14065149
>Dylan?
>guy

ayy lmao
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>>14065142
>At least she was useful against Vagrant
Didn't she directly create Vagrant through her genocidal Triple Plan? Or was that accidental and she just took advantage of it to slaughter more of humanity?
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>>14065154
>Didn't she directly create Vagrant through her genocidal Triple Plan?
It's all but a certainty that she (or rather her scientists) created/coaxed it into being it using Mitsuhiro's research.
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>>14065149
Are you there, anon?

>>14065154
Oh yeah, that and the Atlantis Core were entirely her own fuckup. Still, nuking Vagrant helped pull it to Earth.
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>>14065153
Hey man, Puppets are people too.

Seriously though what was his name, I am at a complete loss for some reason.
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>>14065159
>spoiler
Get the fuck out, assimilation junkie.

It is Dylan.
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>>14064856
Hiroto never got one, hamburger'd. As they showed with Kurusu and Kouyo they seemingly had to be registered to the core with a Gordian crystal to receive a SDP.

Akira's is identical to Rina's, power amplification. The taking on Rina's assimilation was a system feature rather than his ability. He was simply re-routing all assimilation feedback into him alone to save Rina instead of sharing it since she was out cold.

Maya's mostly seemed like super eyesight and spatial awarness, turning her into even more of a super soldier.

Kurusu's was just simply predictive precognition + bullet time.

Think it was implied Mark Raison had a super SDP at the end as well since it had it's own personal core and Gordian crystal to itself hence why it was stomping everyone single handedly. Simply being a super prototype wouldn't have been enough to pull all that off.
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>>14065235
>Simply being a super prototype wouldn't have been enough to pull all that off.
Being a super prototype and having total control of an Azazel-type would, though. Interesting idea, but I don't think I'd compare that to the island SDP.

The Tatsumiya SDPs are granted by the Mir's own free will, but the Atlantis Core basically had Vagrant as his puppet, Vagrant itself didn't have a say in anything. With everything Raison did like the light assimilation, the worm discs, and those worm dart things, it felt more like a remote avatar for Vagrant if anything.
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>>14065262
>it felt more like a remote avatar for Vagrant if anything.
The Atlantis core, Mark Raison and Vagrant had by then become the same being, you're probably right but Mark Raison was more of a puppet than an avatar.

At the point Mark Nicht finally broke through the blockade ambushing and destroying Vagrant the Atlantis core also died with it. Almost immediately the Atlantis Gordian crystal mass in the atmosphere reacted and Mark Raison weakened enough for Kazuki to exorcise it. It felt sorta like since the core had died the super SDP it granted was severed too.
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>>14065365
>The Atlantis Core died with it

Not definite. The fact of the matter is that Gregory still fucking appeared and dragged Jonathan out into space after Vagrant was destroyed. His mass of Gordion Crystals is still in tact and Gregory though having control of Vagrant, was also independent of Vagrant.
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>>14065365
That whole relationship is honestly pretty confusing, especially since as an audience we only knew about it in the last few episodes.

The core reacted pretty badly when Vagrant was killed, but he showed up a few minutes later still, throwing a tantrum when Jonathan broke free from the mind control. So technically he might not even be dead, maybe he's a part of that Gordian mass.

Vagrant's core brings up some questions though anyway. When we first saw the Atlantis core boy, he was stuck in Wadatsumi's chunk of the Seto Inland Sea Mir, but that was assimilated when he broke free. When that was assimilated did it become Vagrant's normal Azazel-type core that Soushi crushed? Or did Vagrant have two "cores" before that?

Someone just needs to sit Tow down for a long conversation about some of these late-season plot threads.
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If there's a sequel, how long would the time skip have to be this time? Not just two years, I'm assuming?
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>>14065599
We did get the mandatory two years at the end of Exodus, so yeah who knows.

If Miwa needs to be an adult or even just a teenager to be strong enough for Altair, that'd be pretty significant.
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>mfw bump limit

>>14065365
>The Atlantis core, Mark Raison and Vagrant had by then become the same being
I think that's a stretch.

Mir Cores are distinct from Azazel-types, but just barely. Mk. Raison is also a different entity, just controled by one of Atlantis's "fingers"
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>>14065235
>hence why it was stomping everyone single handedly. Simply being a super prototype wouldn't have been enough to pull all that off.

It actually only stopped all four people in one assault, and I can totally believe a Salvator Powered AEGIS with a Festum Barrier slapped in can stop four super Fafners. After that assault all four of the Fafners fighting it split off, and while it was stronger than Sein, I'm not sure that it was significant enough.
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>FAFNER SEASON 3 : SWANSONG


WE MADE IT BROS
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>>14066710
?
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>>14066710
I am not believing anything I hear for the next 48 hours.
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>>14066937
[SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT]
[I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU GOT]
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What's going on?
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>>14067325
April fools
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FOLLOW ME
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>>14069121
FOLLOW YOU
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"XebecZwei announces new Soukyuu no Fafner season on April 1st, 2016. No one believes them. One month later, the show actually airs, and everyone cheers."
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