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I KILL 3 NAMES IN A SINGLE BOUND!!!

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B A S E D
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Post more Ein
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>>14018414

>BROFIST

yeah, Ein is gonna eat some babyflesh, and fill his need for blood.
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this is that minor character that got his pops killed in ep3, amirite?
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>>14018401

DO IT FOR CARTA

BUTTFUCK THOSE SPACE RATS RIGHT IN THE PUSSY WITH YOUR HUGE AXE!
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>>14018490
The jobber yes.
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>>14018490
No, in my head canon Ein is the MC. Fuck those orphan shits.
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>>14018401
The savior in the dark that will make Gundam shine again!
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>I KILL
Oh, it is going to be fun to see your disappointment next week.
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Do we see his body at all, or are we just supposed to suss out how fucked up he is from that display from last week?
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>>14018580

We see a blurry image of part of his face, but that's about it.
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>>14018580
Looks like he's inside a fish tank.
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http://strawpoll.me/7134770/r
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>>14018401
>kill
They're not dead until we get a full episode of Tekkadan stuck mourning them.
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>>14018401
PART BIONIC
AND ORGANIC
NOT A CYBORG
CALL HIM THE PSYCHOGRAZE.
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Ein a shit.
Like seriously nigga, Crank died 23 episodes ago just get over it.
Now he's a fucking mobile suit and killing Naze's bitches.
This shit is FUCKED UP!
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I want Carta to wake up inside Graze Issue
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>>14018657
>thinking they're dead
Come on this is gundam.
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>>14018657
Naze's bitches helped space rats, so they must die.
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>>14018657

>the one person who treated you with any shred of genuine respect or compassion in your entire life died 23 episodes ago just get over it

Kind of hard to do when it's implied you were already kind of unhinged and your mentor/father figure's merciless and senseless (at least in your eyes) death was the breaking point.
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>>14018669
It's just a flesh wound.
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>>14018401
>KILL 3 NAMES
Is muscle-kun daijoubu?
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>>14018669
So they're super dead
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>>14018677
Eat shit Ein!

>>14018712
I get that. I'm just salty.
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>>14018401
When those three are actually confirmed dead, I will buy your model kit, if you're not dead next episode I will buy TWO of them.
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>>14018774
Shino confirmed to be alive
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>>14018780
There's still a chance he'll get killed next episode
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>>14018669
One of them got chopped and the other drilled, its safe to say that they're dead.
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>>14018803
>Azee bloodied and slumped forward
>Lafter not shown directly, blood splatter on a control panel

Its ambiguous at best.
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>>14018820
Only in anime would that be ambiguous.
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>>14018822
>what are comics
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>>14018725
She's just taking a nap. Right...right?
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>Merribit's face for this entire arc
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>>14018906
..Yeah anon..you just watch.
Next episode she'll wake up..Lafter too..
;_;
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>>14018922
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>>14018931
>Orga "I literally can't stop killing kids" Itsuki
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>>14018725
Where is she even wounded?
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>>14018957
Is the fact Merribit is voiced by Lacus not lost on anyone else? Can we get an edit of Lacus sleeping with Tekkadan Orphans?
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>>14019015
Go to Pixiv and you can see actual fanart of that.
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>>14018780
That would be really retarded. Ein tore his mech apart. Might as well resurrect everyone at that rate.
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>>14019015
>voiced by Lacus
I honestly don't pay attention to VAs unless something seems really familiar to me, so this is news to me.
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>>14018922

>MUH REVENGE FOR OUR COMRADES
>LET'S USE YOU KIDS AS DECOYS
>SENDS ATRA AS ENVOY DRIVER

If anyone dies it is 100,000,000% his fault
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>>14019013
I like to think that her skull collapses into her torso like that one Mortal Kombat Fatality, but in reality she probably just had a concussion from blunt trauma.

Bitches and whores those turbines
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>>14019017
I tried, but all I'm getting are pics of Lacus being a dirty slut and the Strike Freedom in her colors.
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>>14019022
Ein didn't really destroy the cockpit. He messed up the head, which houses the sensors, and disconnected the right shoulder. Then he ripped off the front of the cockpit, which would allow Shino to get out.
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>>14018931
>>14018957
>"I should've stayed in that bar."
I actually felt kinda bad for her when she broke down. It's really frustrating when you're trying your hardest to get through to someone and they just will not listen.
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>>14019013
>>14019031
Strike was from up top, so it's a head wound.

Thing is, head wounds are known for bleeding everywhere and thus looking a millions times worse than they actually are. Even superficial wounds result in blood going everywhere.
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>no explosions.
>no in cockpit shots off heads blown off or a torso with holes in it.

come on guys this is gundam they'll all be fine.

didn't one of the other characters survive being crushed while in space?

but really....

Shino will die or confirmed to have died earlier for bragging about the AV system multiple times and for having Crank's Graze.

Azzee and Lafter I don't know but they should die just to show that Ein can kill things.
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>>14019043
That's bullshit, Ein should've cleaved that Rouei in half with a Graze that size, I hate this show so much.
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>>14019033
Well that's fucking retarded even by IBO standards. What's the point of messing up the mech but not killing the guy who took it. All he's doing is getting revenge against a machine.
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>>14019061
He wanted the pure tactile pleasure of orphan mashing with his new hands.
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>>14019052
He was striking mid-air, not a good place to land a really solid blow.
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>>14019061
Because he was totally on board with crushing Shino in his hands until he heard them mentioned Kudelia. Then he remembers how this giant trainwreck started - when Jewdelia wouldn't go with Crank to get murdered in a cell somewhere. Then he bolts off.

>>14019066
And here's the aftermath image.

Also, I really like the juxtaposition of Ein having a raging boner over "his true form" paired with the image of Arzee bleeding to death. It's not, y'know, subtle, but it's still nice.
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>>14018401
>Three named characters die in one episode
>Feel nothing
IBO
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>>14019075
In other words contrived plot armor.
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>>14019034
You can't suppress their lust for revenge
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>>14019090
It also gave Char a chance to fight Garma and stopped Guts from getting smashed.
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>>14019088
It's not the show's fault that you are dead inside.
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>>14019127
It is the show's fault for expecting me to feel sorry for characters so shallow that they can hardly be called characters.
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>>14018401
>I HAVE FINISHED FARMING
>Ein is on a rampage
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>>14019099
Which is the sad part. Tekkadan is way too far into this mess to simply stop. Merribit's technically right from a moral perspective. But like old man mechanic told her, even though shit is fucked up they really don't have any other options if they want to survive ans succeed.
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>>14019088
>>14019127
>>14019141
theres only one death that i feel something in gundam
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>>14019088

> Sarah, Katz, Reccoa, Jerid and so on.

Zeta did the same thing though? Then again, some people laugh or cheer at some of those deaths, so maybe that doesn't count even though I think that's worse personally.
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>>14019075
>>14019066
>vlc
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and Lafter's "death" was more or less cutting away to blood splatter on some controls?
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>>14019151
>they want to survive ans succeed.
Those two things were mutually exclusive.
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>>14019088

After Carta's squads death thid was the ineveitable result
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>>14019127
A show needs to make the audience care for characters if it wants the audience to feel sad they die. The harem girls have no character and barely any backstory. Do we even know anything about Shino? And he's not even dead, apparently, the show just wanted to squeeze some more drama out.
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>>14018774

Lafter was drilled through her torso, and Azee seems to have fatal head injuries, as well as Shino. I'd only say shino has a chance because Ein was interrupted mid-way into killing him.

I love how opportunistic McGillis is, and how he manipulated Carta, Ein and Gaelio to create this situation. I wish they had spent more time elaborating on his hatred for Gjallarhorn because all I can do at this point is speculate.

I feel like McGillis is going to kill Gaelio quickly then assist Mika with Ein in the next episode.
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>>14019180
>Do we even know anything about Shino?
He is gay and possibly a pedophile.
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>>14019162
I didn't feel much for Zeta's deaths either. I just used that reaction pic.
Though I will say that I actually did feel some sadness when Kamille got mindbroken in the finale, because he's a guy who evolved as a character throughout the series and is somewhat likable by the end. When something bad happened to him, I actually felt sorry for him to an extent. No one in IBO has received any sort of character arc. Very few of them have histories to care about or distinct personality traits. Especially the specific ones who died in this episode. One girl was usually happy, the other one was always serious. That's about as far as their characters went. Shino wasn't unlikable, but he was also just 'the upbeat guy'.
The saddest part of the episode is when they killed off nameless grunts in an attempt to evoke emotion.
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>>14019189
>Lafter was drilled through her torso,

Horse shit. We saw the drill hit her mech, didn't even see it break through her cockpit, and we saw a tiny blood splatter.
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>Hey, puppet pal Azee!
>Hey, puppet pal Ein!
>Can you guess what my favorite kind of horse is?
>A Clydesdale?
>Nope, a bucking BONKo
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>>14019189
I'm just going to wait on official KIA listing instead of drawing conclusions.
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>>14019206

Yea, I agree the deaths in IBO were pretty bleh (as is the show as a whole), but I do think the same is true of much of Gundam. You could pick out any episode with multiple named character deaths in any Gundam like Zeta, Victory, SEED and so on and I'd probably find all those deaths meh.
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>>14019215
Fuck I read that in their voices. And that picture is adorable.
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>>14019206
Speaking of zeta I just began watching that and why do they keep hitting eachother.
Literally every episode someone gets punched, slapped or his shit kicked in.
Also what was up with kamille calling himself an autistic kid?
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>>14019151

Meribit's conflict with Orga came about way too late. Call it bad writing - but children working for Teiwaz and doing regular contract/mercenary work instead of escorting Kudelia also involves a level of risk/danger. Installing the AV system in children has a high risk of failure - every step of the way Tekkadan's influential members risked their lives by choice or not. I don't understand why the writers felt like this was the best time for her or anyone else to speak up about it. Most of the kids are illiterate including Mika, there is nothing but risky jobs for them to earn a living.

As you said it's too late. Besides, Gundam-Ein was in the making long before Tekkadan's recent resolve of high-risk all in offensive, and Gjallarhorn was after them before that - repeatedly.
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>>14019215
Damn, that was fast.

I can't wait for the Ein-fags(Which are really just assmad Carta-fags) to get BTFO soon.

Tekkadan is definitely one of the more interesting protags Gundam has had in a long time, and their thin plot armor makes them even better. I hope Idris Elba's marry band of mobile suit marauders ends up burning Gjallarhorn to the ground.

Before that happens, can you Ein-fags do us a solid and kill Merribet already? Talk about totally fucking disconnected from reality. It takes a lot to make even Kudelia look rational.
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>>14019228
That's true. And I would agree in a lot of cases when it comes to the other Gundams. Though I'm looking at it as an anime, not just as a gundam anime. And in IBO's case, it really doesn't have anything going for it even without the characters. Leaving me completely emotionally disconnected the entire time. So when they start killing off characters, it's hard to feel anything.
>>14019235
>why do they keep hitting eachother
It's a gundam thing
>what was up with kamille calling himself an autistic kid
He was making up excuses for acting like a little bitch. I think Emma calls him out on it too. Though it's been ages since I watched Zeta.
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>>14019241

> Tekkadan's recent resolve of high-risk all in offensive

Tekkadan have been doing high-risk offensive since the beginning.
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>>14019189
>I love how opportunistic McGillis is, and how he manipulated Carta, Ein and Gaelio to create this situation
I love how Gaelio knew immediately who it was.

Carta's last words, apparently, were not lost on him.
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>>14019241
>Meribit's conflict with Orga came about way too late.
The show required her not to freak out about him getting a bunch of kids killed until she couldn't ditch him.

>>14019244
>I can't wait for the Ein-fags(Which are really just assmad Carta-fags) to get BTFO soon.
You realize that some people could just dislike Tekkadan.

>Tekkadan is definitely one of the more interesting protags Gundam has had in a long time, and their thin plot armor makes them even better. I hope Idris Elba's marry band of mobile suit marauders ends up burning Gjallarhorn to the ground.

A lot of Gundam series have characters die. Tekkadan actually gets away with more shit.
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>>14019244
She is impossible to kill right now, she escaped from the battlefield with the wounded, I hope she won’t stay with Tekkadan after this, is quite obvious she doesn’t understand them at all
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>>14019244
You shut your salty mouth.

Merribit is goddamn right and you and Orga both know it.

He'll be drinking himself to sleep every night from now on. He could have sold the contract, he could have cut his losses.
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>>14019254
most gundam series don't compose almost the entirety of their protag force out of actual children, either. Let alone ones that started off as slave labor and cannon fodder.

>>14019256
Let me dream. I just want her erased, where she can no longer take up precious air time from episodes with her pointless blubbering and adding literally nothing else to the show. Even Kudelia finally came to terms with that shit, and unlike Merricunt, Kudelia was a sheltered rich girl; Not the employee of glorified space-Yakuza.
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>>14019241
Definitely agree it came too late. Tekkadan's used to this kind of stuff while Merribit is basically an outsider looking in and realizing how bonkers these kids are. Both she an the crew haven't really known each other long enough to fully grasp where each side is coming from.
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>>14019265

I don't know, I found her crying that Fumitan wouldn't want this in this episode funny, because Fumitan probably would approve. Her stance last episode was understandable, this episode not so much.
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>>14019260
What other choice did they have? Gjallarhorn won't let them get away with it, so they may as well gamble it with something that could get them some political protection also chocochar could end up helping them, unless he backstab them
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>>14019260
>First real job
>"Hurr, too dangerous, sell the contract. We'll totally get work after this. I mean folks are just lining up to hire a group of child soldiers who got lucky on their ride to Earth and were escorted by Teiwaz."

Literally all Merribit did was bitch about 'will someone PLS think of the children!'. She had no problem with it in space, when people were getting killed during boarding ops, or in several of their following battles. She's a boring, inconsistant character that is only crying because in action anime there has to be the obligatory pacifist complaining about every battle.

Like, no shit, Merribitch, they are going to fight. That's literally their job. That's all they've ever known. Most are fucking illiterate and underaged and CAN'T work elsewhere. They have literally fucking nowhere to go. No family, No home, And no opportunity for anything other than dangerous employment. Not to mention Gjallarhorn chasing them.
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>use kids as soldiers
>YOU KILLED OUR KIDS I WANT REVENGE
I know Mika is the main character so he wont lose but i wish Ein would fucking murderfuck all of them
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>>14019260

Merribit is right, the black guy acknowledges that but deep down he's pragmatic and helps Tekkadan regardless. Shitloads of kids lost their lives against Crank's first attack in Mars. It's not any different now. Nobody is going to take a bunch of space rats, find them parents send them to school and give them a good life. Nobody will even give them honest work. How a Teiwaz-observer can be so naive/stupid is beyond me.
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>>14019273
>Gjallarhorn won't let them get away with it, so they may as well gamble it with something that could get them some political protection also chocochar could end up helping them, unless he backstab them.

Chocochar told them that he wants to reform Gjallarhorn and they want to destroy it. Its not even backstabbing at this point.
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>>14019279
>She had no problem with it in space, when people were getting killed during boarding ops, or in several of their following battles.
That's not exactly fair, just because she doesn't speak out against it at first doesn't mean she's alright with it.
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>>14019287

Is anyone in Tekkadan talking about all the dead folks? I don't think they are. Maybe one of their personal friends, but that's about it. And thats no different than Ein talking about Crank.
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>>14019296
In space, they also had somewhere to go.

Getting off of Earth is a far more involved task than slinking quietly back to Mars.
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>>14019292
>>Merribit is right, the black guy acknowledges that but deep down he's pragmatic and helps Tekkadan regardless. Shitloads of kids lost their lives against Crank's first attack in Mars. It's not any different now. Nobody is going to take a bunch of space rats, find them parents send them to school and give them a good life. Nobody will even give them honest work. How a Teiwaz-observer can be so naive/stupid is beyond me.

They could have sold the equipment and tried something else.

>>14019296
>That's not exactly fair, just because she doesn't speak out against it at first doesn't mean she's alright with it.
The members taking part in those operations also didn't look like they were 12.
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>>14019279
>That's literally their job
To be fair, Orga literally said he was sending them out as cannon fodder to die, not just "hold the line" or whatever.
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>>14019287
>our kids
Literally only Merridumb thinks this way. Regardless of Biscuit dieing, their goal was always forward progression. Gjallarhorn is dead set on being their opponent, so of course Tekkadan has come to hate them. Are you fucking retarded? I'm gonna laugh when Ein gets stomped and your 'Neo-Zeon dindu nothin' shit gets BTFO.

Tekkadan never had a choice if they wanted to survive. Gjallarhorn troops fight purely for personal benefit. The motivations are completely different and I don't feel bad for Gjallarhorn's 'blackwater in space' fags like Ein. The entire premise of his rage is full retard, too. "Abloo bloo bloo, my superior officer attacked an entire base solo like a retard and got killed by people in self defense. Better recklessly endanger myself until I lose everything and become so cyborg-cuck of faggots that don't even care about me."
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>>14019287

Ein is as big an idiot as Carta, and more tragic. I felt pity for him talking to Crank when he was about to kill Shino.

McGillis really fucked him over.
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>>14019304
>In space, they also had somewhere to go.

>Getting off of Earth is a far more involved task than slinking quietly back to Mars.

They were pretty retarded to go to earth with no way out.

>>14019307
>Gjallarhorn is dead set on being their opponent
Gjallarhorn gave them a way out and they could have refused to take Kudelia. They picked the fight.
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>>14019306
And they accepted it. She shouldn't have bitched up. She knew what job she was signing up for when she agreed to join Tekkadan. The moment she walked on that ship and saw that half the crew were younger than 13, that should have told her everything right there. She witnessed several battles prior to earth as well, yet suddenly NOW she has moral grievances with mercenary work involving children? It's ridiculously forced. I just want her to leave already.
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He could have also tried to sneak Kudelia and Sata into Edmonton with a small crew or something instead of going into siege mode.

Sure, I can see how Orga can't back down, even if he wants to, but they're too single-minded and frankly way too cocky too.
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>>14019314
>Lets just turn over this person trying to improve the lives of our homeland and maybe make it a little less shit so more kids don't end up in our situation
>To a corrupt asshole organization that's guaranteed to kill her, and has already killed several of our comrades.
>Also lets go into a life of abject poverty where we will likely starve to death; illiterate and underaged, unable to be hired for anything except perhaps another PMC taking advantage of our implants.

Yeah. Real great way out.
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>>14019305

I can't say i know the numbers but with all the unnamed mooks with them, the Tekkadan company is probably 30-35 large. Do you think selling the battleship, mobile workers and a couple MS can sustain them in the long term?
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>>14019317
As it turns out, children are retarded drones who can't make real decisions for themselves. They lack the depth.

Even so, the children mostly did stuff like help with maintenance, not charge into battle. All the older kids did.

Regarding how forced and hamhanded it is, that's totally true. But that also applies to every other piece of pretentious bullshit in the series, so it's just more crap on the pile.
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>>14019333
how the hell should we know? we don't even know how much it's worth
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>>14019317
Seeing them on the ship and using them as a meat shield are two different things

>>14019333
The reactors can only be made by Gjallorhorn and a ship of that size and that equipment should be worth a shit ton of money.

Probably set for life, if not enough to get an education.
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>>14019335
I think it's a little more fair to assume they knew what they were getting into. It's not like they were devoid of knowledge of what a battle entails. Even for the young ones it wasn't their first rodeo. Merridumb's problem is she looks at them like normal, sheltered children, when they aren't. In a lot of ways they were more mature than their adult counterparts because most of them don't get wrapped up in shit like moral dilemmas when their lives are on the line. They tend to view the world in a more binary sense: I do this, or we all die.

Hence why Mika murdered the fuck out of Carta and her goons when they were retarded enough to challenge him to a duel. The kids are playing for keeps, while the adults are playing games.
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>>14018401

When I say 'Crank It', you do whatever it is people do when their told to do that.
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>>14019354
Its one thing to keep kids who have nowhere else to go on support and another thing to send them out to die.

Also they are 12 they don't seem to understand what they are doing and are just going along with their family. They might be amoral little shits but that isn't a good thing.
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>>14019354
They did know, but that doesn't make them any less of complete lemmings. Orga says this, I do this because he made a retarded speech about perpetuating the cycle revenge or collectivism or whatever to get me pumped up. It's almost like when religious people say they chose to be religious of their own free will and they aren't a complete product of their environment.
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>>14018890
>>14018822
>what are any televeision/film production ever
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Also a question for our maple syrup friends to the north, how do you feel about Edmonton being so important in IBO? Canada doesn't get to be relevant in many mecha series normally.
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>>14018610
>http://strawpoll.me/7134770
we 're EINFAGS HERE!!!
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>>14019382
Thank you, Anon. This is what people cant seem to comprehend, which I cant blame them for, the show's internal paradigm being so inconsistent as it is. It cant seem to decide whether they are or arent children, and neither can IBOfags as long as it supports Tekkedan being justified in their actions.
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>>14019399
I'm sorry you got your sense of morality from TV shows, but not sad that the Khmer Rouge isn't around anymore for you to join.
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>>14019407
>huh, neat
That's about it
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>>14019429
Does Ein ever get itchy?
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>>14019439
I don't think he can feel much anymore.
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>>14019418
They're children that grew up around war. They SHOULD be inconsistent with what you know as children and what you know as adults, because their upbringing was completely different from anything you know, unless you're good friends with a child mercenary or something.
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>>14019429
>>14019449
I definitely think Azee survived, not sure about Lafter though.
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>>14019170
she was too cute to watch die in J-mindset...
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>>14019450
Probably could have worded that better. Not saying they're inconsistent with me. The show is inconsistent with them.
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>>14019475
>Too cute to suffer and die

Not familiar with Japanese culture I see.
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So, who's going to break the bad news to the kids of the Turbines? Is Mika going to be the the one to explain what happened to Lafter and Azee to those kids?
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>>14019449
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55921412

> dat title
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>>14019450
Have they shown strong decision making skills in the past?
Child soldiers are supposed to be easily indoctrinated. There is a moral debate whether a child soldier is a victim or not.

I don't know why you think its fine to use kids indoctrinated into being a meat shield.
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>>14018669
>Come on this is gundam.

because that's what Gundam is famous for.

NOT killing women
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>>14019407
Kinda disappointed that our debut is in such a shit show. Now if the Bandai execs see the ratings fall, they'll avoid having anything to do with Canada again.
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>>14019508
Wait, they actually gave Ein Big O's sudden impact?
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>>14019502
Lalah says hi
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>>14019508
Natural enemy? More like natural prey.
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>>14019523
Sort of. It's mounted more like Alt Eisen, but way smaller.
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>>14019525

you're new to this whole SARCASM thing, aren't you?
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>>14019429
you mispelled prey
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>>14019381
>A good thing
I don't think you've kept up with the setting of IBO, have you? The whole star system is completely fucked. It's a Cyberpunk-style future where corporations are running everything and stuff like slavery is basically allowed, with child soldiers being a common occurance.

Seemingly everyone knows this but Merridumb, Kudelia, and and Carta. Before CGS and Tekkadan, most of these kids were starving on the street, or being hauled by slavers. Atra was basically a slave in a whorehouse, and probably would have been gang raped the second she was considered of profitable age.

Everyone that doesn't understand this in the show all have something in common: They're rich, sheltered kidults that don't know shit about anything but feel it's their place to govern people's actions and pass judgement.

Honestly, if anything, Orga's biggest fault is not going off on the dumb bitch and telling her the way things are so she can finally shut up or leave.
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How is Naze going to respond when he hears that Gjallarhorn messed with his harem?
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>>14019537
Yeah I noticed and fixed itafter I posted it, thanks though.
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>>14019497

They are mature enough to know the consequences of their actions and decisions. It's shown repeatedly with Mikazuki's flashbacks. He made a decision when he was their age or even younger to follow Orga and has stuck to it till this point.

Their lives would not be much better accepting the status quo. On the upside McGillis and Kudelia could actually change things.
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>>14019534
yup.

is anyone thinking they may rethink a season 2, the way things are going?

i think:

Ein is Kill
(unless they grow massive balls and choose Mika)
Orga may be kill
Old Man is gonna cross-them, sell them out.
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>>14019490
I hope so. He'd be hilariously blunt about it instead of being melodramatic.

"Your mothers were PMCs that got literally smashed into a pulp by other PMCs over money and a misguided sense of changing the world by getting some teenager to the UN to talk about peace and flowers. Avenge them when you group up, or don't. I don't really give a shit."
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>>14019552
I hope they don't kill Mika. He's one of the few redeeming characters that isn't dramatic just for the sake of being dramatic. If the show is left with nothing but a bunch of cry-baby pacifists and screamers I'm fucking done.
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>>14019552
Whether or not there's an S2 it's to late too rethink it. I don't see reason for more.
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>>14019565
A blank wall can't be called a character.
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>>14018666
Gaelio never approve this kind proposal. Because, it's a man's fight.
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>>14019539
So you're just retarded then?

>>14019545
>They are mature enough to know the consequences of their actions and decisions.

I think whether this is true would be the core of the debate, but honestly there is a lot of material on the subject and its beyond the scope of the thread.
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>>14019582
>Blank wall
>Everyone who doesn't act like a drama queen is a blank wall
He's probably the most normal and human person in the show aside from Biscuit and the black guy. Everyone else is fucking ridiculous.
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>>14019587
>Shit he's got me there
>Better call him retarded and dodge him.
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>>14019591

this anon has taste in character and i likely older than 14, if not 18.
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>>14019545
There they mature enough to stand trial for possible war crimes, or will someone else take the blame for their actions?

>>14019559
What if those kids ask Mika to avenge their mother's for them? Is the PMC Gjllarhorn fucked? Either way, Ein just created more war orphans who will try to bring down him and Gjallarhorn down.
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>>14019602
I doubt it. I don't see them even being allowed into the 'trade' until adulthood. They seemed pretty sheltered outside of growing up on a harem battleship. Most kids in Tekkadan don't even acknowledge ever having a family.
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>>14019591
>This edgy autist is normal
Some parts of the cast are a little hammy at times, but this guy is just a Reccoa expy badly pretending to be Heero. He's up there with Kudelia and Ein for sheer implausibility and insanely boring to watch all at the same time.
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>>14019598
You never supplied a good argument about their decision making ability and whether they should be able to make such a decision.

It was basically you don't understand and then name calling to support the use of children in combat roles.
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>>14019591
I question your exposure to human beings if you see them in any of these muppets.
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>>14019629
And, in all honesty given how unbelievable and boring most of the shitstains are, the hammy ones are the only ones that make the show worth watching because they inject a little personality and excitement into this boring as "orphans are sad" slog. And then they die, because this show prevents itself from being good.
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>>14019449
>>14019429

Who wants to bet he's also being pumped full of drugs to give him a combat high?
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>72 Gundam frames made
>Only 3 show up in-show (4 counting Astaroth)

There's no way they aren't doing another season, especially since Gjallarhorn isn't just gonna be reformed overnight. I totally expect a 00-esque timeskip coming up soon.
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>>14019582

I think it was covered earlier on in the aftermath of when Gut's brother died but Mika's coldness and lack of personality/overpragmatism is how he deals with his trauma.

Through flashbacks, it's been shown that Mika was responsible for feeding Atra and ultimately bringing her to Biscuit's family through CGS when she happened to come across him. He's also visibly upset when anyone from tekkadan is threatened with danger, so there is some depth to him. I'd say he has more depth of personality than Heero and Setsuna who i thought he was based on earlier.
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>>14019658
Yeah. It also seems kind of silly to have the Grimgerde and its own Valkyrie frame, only to barely even have it show up. It seemed pretty clearly meant to be the rival suit, but all it's doing is helping Tekkadan.
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>>14019629
>Doesn't utterly collapse into mind-break every time he kills someone
>Especially when almost every single engagement is in self defense, and decides if everyone he cares about is killed horribly. Literally the most justifiable circumstances of killing you could possibly be presented with short of Gjallarhorn being a bunch of child fuckers on top
>McGillis
>"OW THE EDGE"
Oh fuck off. Mika is relateable because he's the only one in it to win it. If I want to watch a show about everyone being emotional retards that have zero coping mechanisms for the situation they are in, I'd watch a soap opera, not an action show.

He has been killing since a very young age, in a star system utterly rife with complete savagery and immorality. He's not out of place at all. The only people out of place are the bluggering pacifists who seemingly ignore the reality around them of slavery and barbaric corporations turning human life into a cheap, disposable commodity.
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>>14019658
>72 Gundam frames made
That's what spinoff material and side stories are for.
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>>14019689
How did the corporations get so powerful, and why isn't Kudelia written as space Adam Smith?
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>>14019633
>Ignores the entire post to desperately try to avoid having an answer to his bullshit.

I laid out exactly why they would understand the situation and be able to make an informed decision on the matter. You're just ignoring it and looking at it like they are a bunch of modern day sheltered suburban kids in a 1st world country. They know exactly what all of their activities entail because they are the first ones to feel the consequences of them, and have their entire life. They know the system is rigged. They know they have nowhere else to go. The early part of the show even made it clear that they understood it was 'do or die'.
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>>14019700
Probably how things are right now, but fast-forwarded a couple hundred years, when oligarchy has essentially dropped any real pretenses of democracy to just say 'we're in charge'. When your societies are run by people whom's only interest is profit and remaining in power, with no checks or balances outside of other companies acting as opponents, then it's pretty easy to see how Gjallarhorn got where it is.

It's even worse because in IBO's case, these companies took advantage of a tremendous, nearly extinction-level war to prey upon people's desires for safety and order at the expense of freedom and independence. Kind of like the war on terror.
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>>14019689
You don't seem to grasp what the word retard means because Mika is the most emotionally retarded person in the series. He always has the same blank expression and flat tone of saying something edgy while dramatic thunder crackles in the background aside for when he's angry, in which case his irises somehow shrink to an impossibly tiny level and he immediately tries to kill someone.

He doesn't cope with shit because he has nothing to cope with. He's a robot.

>If I want to watch a show about everyone being emotional retards that have zero coping mechanisms for the situation they are in, I'd watch a soap opera, not an action show.
Then why are you watching this?
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>>14019719
>He's a robot!
>He can't emotionally respond to anything!
Like fucking what? He hasn't had anything bad personally happen to him. He's lost no one he cares about. He isn't even really friends with anyone but Orga and Atra, and more or less told Kudelia to her face that she's a moron at the start of the show, only really warming up to her halfway through. He doesn't get attached to people because their time in CGS from a younger age than even the youngest Tekkadan members currently, he learned that everyone is expendable as fuck.

>Also ignoring that almost every single fucking episode they beat in his obsession with Orga's vague, empty promise of taking them somewhere better than all of this.
>To the point where he becomes increasingly more desperate and merciless when people interfere with said promise.

Ayyy but if he doesn't break out into tears or start yelling like it's DBZ he has no character. Emotions have to be worn on a character's sleeve :^)
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>>14019714
I'm starting to doubt that Kudelia will be able to fix the system. It takes really strong principles to withstand the corruption. What are they odds of Kudelia being bought by special interests and then being content with securing her power?
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>>14019747
Realistically she wouldn't change shit, but this is gundam so she'll mary sue her way through it all like so many generic 'Peace Princess's did before her.
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>>14019739
>Ayyy but if he doesn't break out into tears or start yelling like it's DBZ he has no character. Emotions have to be worn on a character's sleeve :^)
>Strawmanning this hard
No, but they generally are at least worn on the face. You're just further proving me right that he's basically a robot. You literally provided all the evidence that proved he was just a Reccoa expy badly pretending to be Heero.

If a literal aspie psychopath is your idea of relatable, you're one hell of an edgelord.
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I can't be bothered to read all this arguing bullshit but what the fuck kind of retarded nickname is Merridumb? Is that anon trying to be clever?
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>>14019765
>aspie psychopath
>For defending himself and others
>And being responsible with everyone's lives by not getting self-absorbed in a pity party over being the only one that can pilot the gundam effectively; Dispatching opponents as quickly as possible instead of endangering everyone by abiding stupid shit like duels.

Wow you're right, so edgy.
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>>14019765
What if Mikazuki was actually expressing himself. But the animation was so bad no one could tell?
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>>14019739
>Also ignoring that almost every single fucking episode they beat in his obsession with Orga's vague, empty promise of taking them somewhere better than all of this.
Not that guy, but this is the biggest problem with Mika. He doesn't grow as a character, and he's entirely one-note. For the entire series, he's just been the serious, deadpan child soldier who fights for Orga's promise. Nothing important has happened to him to change his outlook or evoke a serious emotional response other than him getting angry after biscuit's death like everyone else. For a character, especially a main character, he's absurdly boring.
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>m-muh Revenge

I can't wait until Orga gets killed

they've all gone full retard
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>>14019778
And yet still the most likeable. I like that he's not a drama queen. I like that he's grounded and purpose-driven. I like that he behaves responsibly. To me, his character is defined by being one of the only reliable people in Tekkadan. Even more reliable than Orga.
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>tfw Ein will never kill the rest of them and end this series
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>>14019782
Okada and co are hitting us on the jead so hard with everyone's whole revenge motive even fareed's motives can be boiled doen to muh revenge
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>>14019689
>Final fight between Mika and Ein.
>Both machines beat the fuck up, Barbatos loses crabclawclub.
>Ein ranting over comms about bad bad spacerats killing his master, revenge, space rat barbarians.
>Mika finally snaps and tells him to fuck off, this is war and war is barbarism.
>Barbatos draws the fucking katana
>Ein screams back some whinny shit about Clank.
>Mika and Ein beat the ever loving shit out of eachother.
>Mika tells Ein to fuck off and begins to name every fucking Tekkadan member killed by Gjallarhorn just to drown out the others incessant blubbers about Clank.
>Both machines are reduced to trading blows till Barbatos emerges the slightly less fucked up winner.

>Meanwhile blablablapolitcalbullshitblablablamoralsnoneofusgiveafuck.
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>>14019747
There are already special interests backing her.
Teiwaz, McGillis, and her own government now have their own plans.

Chances are special interests would have their way and Mars would still be fucked.
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>>14019034
They're a fucking private military company and those kids have more blood on their hands than she is willing to admit.
She has to stop thinking with her feelings and understand that wars and armed conflicts aren't things you can just quit by bawling your eyes out. You commit to the end, whatever and whenever that is. Retreating and going "hey guys we decided that we don't want to die so let's just chill and netflix aite?" doesn't work.
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>>14019773
You act like the vast majority of those characteristics don't apply to about half of the rest of the cast who manage to act human at the same time. He does fit the criteria for those an aspie psychopath in particular, however: an obssesive, unemotive, and unaware manlet who acts on passion.

So I suppose an aspie sociopath would be more accurate. That's a pretty small difference though.
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>>14019776
Yeah true, Mika could be written as an incredibly compelling character and we're just not seeing it because the shite animation cant capture the subtlety of his character.
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>>14019790
No change/development = reliable character who is interesting to watch.
Sasuga.
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>tekadan be like "NEED TO CRUSH ENEMY FOR COMRADE CAN'T GO HOME"
>anon be like "HOW DARE BITCH CRY ABOUT RECKLESS CHILDREN PUSSIES GTFO REEEE"

Let's just hope Ein gets to be happy before dying
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>this show could have been about Ein and Gali being bros
>instead Gali is gong to get Garma'd
>Ein is going to die because of some bullshit
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>>14019075

Pretty sure he ripped Shino (or the whole cockpit out) and threw it miles into the air before zipping off to rapefuck the Maiden of Revolution.
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>>14019834
>>Ein is going to die because of some bullshit
>his graze body ran out of battery
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>>14019803
I can totally see this coming, but I am actually interested in the politics shit so I can see how they take this crapshow into the second season, like some anon above me said, a 00-esque timeskip is definitely coming up.
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>>14019449
>>14019472

That's the face of a woman being penetrated by 6 feet of spinning metal dick. She's mincemeat now.
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>people in this thread actually supporting Ein

"muh crank" is the worst revenge reason EVER, and from a professional soldier at that.
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>>14019806
But the show has unironically portrayed Kudelia as the good guy when she's a shill for special interests.
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>>14019859
no, we're happy he's killing all these terrible characters
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>>14019851
Why hasn't Lafter gotten porn yet?
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>>14019859
I don't know about others but I take Ein as serious as I would Jerid. I find Ein and his whole shtick hilarious.
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>>14019823

> Loran isn't relatable (he's not interesting) because he doesn't change or grow.

Good job
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>>14019859
>dude has been blueballed from murderfucking childern all season
>dude becomes graze to murderfuck children
>btw said children are pretty insufferable
>btw his graze/body is pretty cool

I don't see why not?
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>>14019689
Mika is boring and shallow. There can be a middle ground between being a rash emotional retard and a rock that can pilot a mech.
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>>14019206
Apolly was one of the hardest Zeta deaths for me. Motherfucker almost made it.
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>>14019407
Hyped and puzzled at the same time. Tekkadan was presumably in St. Alberts and shouldn't have had that much trouble finding a way to the downtown core. Obviously the Arabau parliament is no where near City Hall or the Provincial legislature, which is doubly disappointing because they are each settle in a unique location (the legislature being uphill, on the rocks, surrounded by the modern PS buildings...)

>Bank Bank
Obvious not-Scotia Bank there. Heh.
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>>14019868
>>14019870
Fair enough, guy's an absolute autist and the reason he gave matched are flimsy as hell.

>>14019879
>first 3 kill in the show
>2 of them aren't even the child soldiers

he failed his only job, I would be more satisfied if he dive into the mobile worker side and destroying a few tanks so he actually fulfills what he's been trying to do the entire show.
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>>14019859
>Cheer for Mika when he goes berserk on Carta for killing Biscuit
>Ein goes full revenge on orphans for killing Crank and we're not allowed to support him
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>>14019892
>/m/ is a single person

I personally don't give half a shit about revenge kills, but seeing Mika sperg out is pretty satisfying.
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>>14019790
>And yet still the most likeable.
Speak for yourself. I hate nearly all the cast and he's down there with Kudelia. Mika is so fucking dull I don't see anything to even like.
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>>14019865
She hasn't realized she is a shill yet.

She doesn't look like a person who fully understands the ramifications of her actions.
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>>14019511
>not knowing the glorious lumber gundam
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>>14019913
And piloted by a Space-Mountie to boot!
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So, who's going to explain the situation to Naze? Orga must be shitting his pants after what Ein did to Lafter and Azee
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>>14019920
Naze is probably going to do that "play strong and pretend it doesn't hurt and next shot he's crying" thing.
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>>14019803
That would be pretty boss. More than anything, I just want Mika to verbally destroy someone, anyone on the cast. Almost everyone deserves it at this point. Mika is the realist nigga on the show and I just need to see this dude go off already when someone finally pushes him over the edge with all their drama bullshit.

Ein doesn't even make sense. He wants to avenge a superior officer that attacked a base by himself and got rekt because of it. Like, no fucking shit, he went up against a Gundam that the two of you couldn't even defeat together and with a small army at your backs.
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>>14019926
Will Mika be the one to comfort him?
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>>14019826
Well I mean he seemed pretty happy in this episode.

Also they can't go home. They don't even have a home to go to. Hence their near-suicidal pushing over the entire series. Who's going to hire illiterate children for anything? Who is going to adopt them and give them a home? Almost all of them grew up as street urchins and/or slaves before CGS, and they'd just end up going right back into that if they went back now.
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>>14019826
Anons don't really care about the difference between being a moral agent and having the ability to make sound decisions.
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>>14019033
>get out

Shino's obviously gonna go full Obright and kill Ein/Gali Gali with his damaged MS
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>>14019933
Yup. So real amirite?
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>>14019843

Either this or he'll have a newtype moment with crank and die

>>14019859
>killing a bunch of characters from an unlikeable cast

whats the problem again?
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>you will never become a Mobile Suit
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>>14020002
>Ein is just a torso and a head in a robot
I'd prefer to keep my dick thank you.
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>>14019998
this is why you don't put kids in charge of an army
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>>14019940
>Who's going to hire illiterate children for anything? Who is going to adopt them and give them a home? Almost all of them grew up as street urchins and/or slaves before CGS, and they'd just end up going right back into that if they went back now.

What they are doing wouldn't make them any less illiterate and they are still doing the same shit they did at CGS. Its not like what they are involved with will drastically change things for the ten of them that survive.
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>>14020001
Ein became unlikable because he harmed three characters who had nothing to do with Crank's death. Only Mika was the one who killed him.
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>>14020019
>unlikable
For you
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>>14020022

Just a really fancy glowing effect for the eye, looks like.
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>>14019998
But that happens all the time in reality. Entire world wars are started over that mentality.
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>>14020022
He is cranking up the rage mode.
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>>14018401
I didnt want those girls to die but I cannot complain to Ein because he gave me good scenes. I blame tekkadan.
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>>14020057
There are hundreds of reasons behind both world wars that extend beyond "who should I kill next".
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>>14020007
Robotic Penis > organic penis
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I honestly want to see all the Orphans die.

Their quest is pointless
Kudelia is an idiot
they have killed respectable characters in cold blood.

Nah fuck Mika and his crew.
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>>14020022
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>>14020057
>Entire world wars are started over that mentality
No, world wars (as in the two of them) are started by world leaders having mentalities like "I want your money" or "I want your land" or "art school didn't accept me". Considering ideals tend to thin out and grow diverse the further down the hierarchy you go, chances are about less than 1% of the population think like that altogether.
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>>14020103
how do people as stupid as you exist?
or is this just bait?
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>>14020103
>they have killed respectable characters in cold blood.

Like who?
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>>14020137
>Carta
>Ein's superiors
>>14020128
>Defending IBO
You tell me first
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>>14020147
>>Carta
Carta was shit. She was a joke character that wasn't funny.

>Ein's superiors
How are they respectable?
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>>14020147
>Carta
>Respectable
She was a literal joke character. Crank also asked for it. That doesn't justify Mika being a disrespectful asshole and shooting Crank before he could even finish thanking him, though. It occurs to me that every villain in this show sucks balls even more than the protagonists somehow.
>People actually like this show
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>>14020162
>>14020168
>Carta
>A joke
when will this meme end? she had more development than half of the cast in IBO
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>>14020147
what do you think this show is about? have you even watched it?
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Never gave two shit about this series but i just saw a webm on /v/ where some EDGE guy was using a drill to attack a ms piloted by that hot pigtails girl, is she dead?
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>>14020176

Development doesn't make her respectable.

She was a pampered, sheltered, ignorant noble who decided to try her hand at playing soldier and being knightly and failed miserably and fatally.
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>>14020176
First off nearly every character in IBO is incredibly static so saying she got more development than them means nothing. Secondly she didn't even get development. She was the same person from her introduction to her death.
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>>14020087
>To reach my ideal fantasy, I have to kill anyone and everyone that gets in my way.
That's pretty much WW2 in a fucking nutshell, though.

A bunch of people destitute and poor after a major war(One that you might say was a calamity, in fact), that leaves a population of people in a region completely disenfranchised and at the whim of larger powers that are better off than them, only for the people in question to end up rebelling on a murderous rampage in the name of a peaceful, prosperous future.
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>>14020176
Well her death was clearly a joke, she didn't even put up a fight. Can't blame Mika for not following her rules for a fight.

>>14020181
Most likely.
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>>14020147
I'm hoping Ein kills them all. Carta was love.
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>>14020103
>Anyone in Gjallarhorn
>Respectable

I don't know why you faggots try so hard and can't just admit that you're booty-blasted that your three-epsiode-waifu got killed.
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>>14020176
Every moment of her appearance up until she killed Biscuit was her freaking out over how Tekkadan is making a joke out of her and harming her pride or whatever. It was obviously played for laughs and sucked at it too.

Plus she was an egocentric moron, which isn't very respectable in a military leader.
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>>14020191
>Well her death was clearly a joke, she didn't even put up a fight
How could she, Mika blindly attacked her and didn't give her a chance to react. Fuck that noise

Ein is the true hero we need
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>>14020203
>Plus she was an egocentric moron, which isn't very respectable in a military leader.
She was an honorable warrior you cucklord
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>>14020205
She caught them by surprise, she clearly had time to fight if she didn't keep up her fair fight bullshit.
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>>14020205
It's almost like it was a fight to the death, and not some retarded game for nobles.
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>>14020189
What?
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>>14020211

She's also a hypocrite.

>Let us fight fairly one on one with no underhanded tricks to resolve this matter in a civil fashion!

>Oh, yeah, I unfairly rushed your helpless, exposed commander a while back and almost killed him and did kill another of your friends, but whatever.
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>>14020214
It's almost like this show is garbage and nobody is good.
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>>14020212
>>14020214
Obviously her problem was expecting any honor from a bunch of rats. She was brought up with that mentality, not entirely her fault she was used as a tool.
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>>14020222
I think he's calling everyone not in Gjallarhorn Nazi's.
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>>14019066
You gotta love how IBO tries to paint as many parts of the mecha black to avoid looking too awful.
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>>14020211
>Honorable warrior
>Had never even been in a fight prior to Tekkadan
>Only has her ideas about chivalry and 'fairness' because she's a spoiled daddy's girl that grew up rich and sheltered from the lives of those that actually fought and died in battles.
>Only even got the opportunity to fight by complete accident, stationed in a cozy non-conflict zone so she could play make-believe soldier without actually ever getting in anyone's way.
>First chance to prove herself and she ends up getting all her subordinates killed by having them stand in the open posing.

Why can't you faggots just admit you only like her because you want a hug pillow of her?
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>>14020224
>Oh, yeah, I unfairly rushed your helpless, exposed commander a while back and almost killed him and did kill another of your friends, but whatever.


Thats a war strategy cucklord. and they already had engaged in battle.

>>14020231
Because she's more than that, fuck off Tokushit
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>>14020106
>they put more effort animating the flame than the mecha moving
Shit really needs to end asap.
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>>14020227
>Honor
Honor doesn't mean 'stand around like a retard and get your men killed because you challenge your opponent to games, then act surprised when they apparently value their lives more than your entertainment or ego.'.
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>>14020227
But her fault for expecting everyone to go through with it, which lead to her death. Especially when she found out that they don't play by her rules the first time they fought.
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>>14020231
I mean yeah of course I do she's adorable.
But the show deliberately gave her pathos at the beginning of the episode and how brutally she got beat was fucking jarring, I can't ignore that.
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>>14020224
That wasn't an 'honorable' battle or whatever so I guess it doesn't count. There was no logical reason for a single Mobile Worker with Orga sticking out of the top wearing a headset shouting to be out in the open like that, especially next to a bunch of Mobile Suits.

>>14020211
So was Crank, except Crank was the opposite of an egocentric moron.
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>>14020235

Yes, it is, but she wouldn't be on the receiving end of this criticism if she wasn't all about old-world values and chivalry and noble conduct and then she just bum-rushes a commander because they're weak and helpless.
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>>14020235
>more than that
No. She's not. She's a 3 episode joke character mocking all the duel shit from older gundam shows like Wing. She had literally no redeeming or serious qualities about her, and even when examined objectively, she's a completely trash human being for getting her subordinates killed just for her ego.
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>>14020240
>But her fault for expecting everyone to go through with it, which lead to her death. Especially when she found out that they don't play by her rules the first time they fought.
That's what I said. She expected a fair fight.

>>14020239
>She challenges them to a duel
>doesn't attack them like a coward
>She expects some honor from the rats
>gets her shit kicked in.
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>>14020231
look where you are man
this board clearly isn't about discussing anime
99% of threads are just waifu threads
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>>14020241
She could have won if she wasn't a retard. Shit, she could have killed them all without even having a fight, or at least done enough damage to end their mission in it's tracks and escape. All she had to do was break the damn rail way, maybe strafe the train with some gunfire to kill all the passengers, then fucking leave before the mobile suits could even launch(If at all).

She got herself and two others killed because of a -game-. If that doesn't make you hate her, what would?
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>>14020241
>Hamhanded massive death flags at the beginning of the episode
>Upset when she dies

>>14020239
It's not like Tekkadan was in any danger whatsoever. What the fuck are three inexperienced idiots in Grazes going to do to your two Gundams and a tuned up custom Graze all with Allah Vagina? They were just standing there, there wasn't even any rush to get some sort of preemptive strike.
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>>14020254
>Coward
>For defending people you care about by not treating their lives with such disrespect that you'd actually humor an utterly ridiculous request from an opponent out to kill them.

You've got a weird as fuck idea about honor.
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>>14020205

Ein, Gaelio and Carta are just dumbass martyrs for McGillis' political powergrab. You can't really blame her stupidity on Mika. McGillis' front company even gifted them the Barbatos parts & weapons used to kill her.

Even if carta had a chance to fight, the outcome would have been the same. Mika should have killed her two episodes ago, it's just that he's not as bloodthirsty as Ein is.

Pic related is the real hero.
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>>14020254
I just wish she would have gotten a little bit smarter about how to fight them instead of just trying to duel them. Maybe then we could have seen something like a grudge match between ChocoChar, Gali and her.
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>>14020264
Killing unarmed people who are trying to negotiate a fair fight with you.
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>>14019449
>now is not the time to be on your period
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>>14020094
Hot.
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>>14020268
>What are three Grazes going to do
Probably, at bare minimum, cause your mission to fail by breaking the rail tracks and running off. At not bare minimum, ambushing your train while the mobile suits are incapable of launching(You know, while it's fucking moving), killing everyone on board in the few seconds it takes to strafe all the cars with cannon fire.
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>>14020022
A sudden and rare outburst of animation wasted on nonsensical theatrics.
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>>14020273
Man, I just wish this show wasn't a fucking joke in general.
>>
>There is no Season 2
>Show ends with all orphans and Kudelia being killed
>Life goes on
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>>14020254

There's a dark souls analogy about invading spirits in there somewhere
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>>14020276
>Unarmed
>standing on top of 3 gigantic fucking war machines.
>Actually jeopardizing the lives of literally all the people you care about by both trusting their word on restraint, and humoring their retarded request in the first place and hoping they don't get salty and attack the train the moment they start losing(After almost every single previous battle has included, at some point, a mobile suit breaking from combat to attack their ship/HQ while Mika is tied down in a fight.).

Carta fags are fucking delusional. They were enemy combatants out to kill them. Duel or not. Mika made the only remotely sane chance and put them out of the fight before the retards could actually do anything dangerous.
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>>14019160
But not for Ramba Ral, Mikhail, or Bernie? Smh
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>Waifufags are literally arguing Carta is a good character

Holy shit this show has the worst fans
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>>14020287

>cannon fire

They're all armed with swords because their blind commander is obsessed with knighthood.
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>>14020292
>life goes on
>starts playing
>seed destiny sequel confirmed
>Iron blooded Seed Destiny
>story written by Okada
>>
I only wished they didn't spend episodes 10-17 doing absolutely fucking nothing.

they could have introduced Carta for example a little bit earlier, investigate further the Gundam Frame history and what not.

for me the show is mediocre, its on the same levels as Gundam Age. Too much fucking tasted potential.

Can we agree that at least we got some good MS designs?
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>>14020287
They weren't ambushing the train you mouthbreather. They were lined up standing outside their mobile suits while Carta promised them 30 minutes to prepare for a fair duel after totally halting their movement like the moron she is. They legitimately were trying to fight armored enemies with a cutting weapon. They didn't even have guns.

>He can't start up a Gundam just because a train is moving
Look at this pleb
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>>14020300
Well, okay, flying over and kicking over the train, then. Same difference. It takes so much time to launch, apparently, that Mika's allies weren't even able to mobilize that entire fight. So much time, in fact, that Carta was going to give them half an hour just to launch. The only reason Mika's was even able to launch was because he was on guard duty at the time, and already had everything set up and was sitting in the Gundam when it happened.
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>>14020306
>Can we agree that at least we got some good MS designs?

Graze and Kimaris are sex, yes.
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>>14020299
>fans

That's a good one. Carta wasn't a good character, none of the characters on this show are. Carta was entertaining and the last character on the show I gave a shit about before she got killed. Now I'm just here to see how the train crashes.
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uh oh

how mad will ahnki be that part of his harem is kill
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>>14020121
>art school didn't accept me

I know this is a gundam thread but come the fuck on.
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>>14020316
Are they 100% dead or just injured? For me they are badly injured.

But knowing this shitshow, they are dead.
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>>14020313
>So much time, in fact, that Carta was going to give them half an hour just to launch.

Well, yeah, see, as someone else already said, the three Grazes weren't even in position to fly over and derail the train. They were just standing in the snow and two of their pilots were just bumming around outside their suits for god knows what reason.
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>>14020307
>Launch a giant war machine off a moving train
I know Carta-fags are stupid as shit but come on, this is common sense.

>Assuming it was only the three Grazes standing there.
Gee, Let me take the word of some dipshit I don't know, who's prior behavior indicates she's fucking insane. I'll just be a good little boy and stand there to protect her ego, and just hope nothing bad happens because of it.
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>>14020205
Ein is true justice
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>>14020324
But they were. It was three on one. If they had all up and attacked at any moment before Mika moved in, one of them at the very least could have EASILY have destroyed the train. By attacking the retards while they are standing on their mechs making ridiculous requests like it's some tournament for fun, you've effectively removed the threat so you can begin working on finding out if anyone else is out up to shit.

And as it turns out, someone WAS nearby waiting to start shit. The only reason he didn't was to save his dumbass sister.
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>>14020323
>Azee head split in half
>Lafter got giga drill breakered
>Norba massive head trauma. Bleeding from ears and nose, cockpit was tossed ten miles into the air
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>>14020268

Gaelio was right there, ready to sortie and save Carta on very short notice. He was on fucking standby to launch. Who's to say he would not sortie while the 3v3 was going on and destroy the train? Mikazuki did the right thing in that situation.

>people still mad at mikazuki and rooting for ein even though mcgillis manipulated her.
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>>14020336
>cockpit tossed

No that was not what happened.

Ein broke off the chest armor and started smashing it into the cockpit
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>>14020336
>Azee head split in half
More like head trauma..
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Well this show went from 0 to 100 really fast.
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>Lafter was pregnant

Double kill?
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>>14020359
The way the shot was framed /a/ wondered if her head was squished into her torso when Ein hammered the cockpit.

Kinda like this, only the sweater is the rest of her body.
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>>14020327
Forgive my sense of humor, but don't expect me to forgive your false dichotomy in return.

>prior behavior indicates she's fucking insane
She's a humongous moron, but she hasn't done even a single thing to indicate she's desperate and crazy, especially compared to Tekkadan, who ram their ship into their enemy.

Was Mika wrong to attack her immediately? Not really. Was it necessary at all though? Was there any real threat at all though? Not really.

>>14020339
Considering he didn't arrive until a few minutes after fighting broke out with his very fast MS, all after two people were killed and Carta had her shit kicked in, all culminating when Carta assumed he was McGillis, no?
>Not rooting for Ein when he's the only chance of even salvaging this series with his comical bloodlust

The only real hero here is McGillis.
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>>14020372
Nah, I just blame the terrible animation team
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>>14020370
wait, what!?
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>>14020380
>>14020370

Oh yeah, she did imply that didn't she?

Can you imagine if they say she's alive but for shock factor they will say the baby died when she got drilled?
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DONT WORRY GUYYS THEY ARE OK
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>>14020374
>Was it necessary at all though? Was tehre any real threat at all though?
Yes and yes. Are you fucking crazy?

Anyone that actually assembles her squad to pose in the middle of a fucking invasion so they can do their gay ass little chant/intro is probably batshit crazy. Sane people don't even think to do such a thing.
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>>14020383
>risk life while knocked up
You got lines?
>he orphaned a kid then killed the orphan
Ein, the Madman.
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>>14020387
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>>14019306

That's more than they've ever been. At least their deaths were FOR something. On Mars they'd have just been worked until they broke and then tossed aside so CGS could prosper.

At least this way they died so their friends could potentially live.
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>>14020393
>You got lines?
Nah, but i remember she mentioned something before reaching earth. Or i could be crazy
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>>14020383
>I thought you had died!
>The airbag saved me.
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>>14020359
She was looking up right as the axe fell.

You can see her hair is resting on the collar of her uniform
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>>14019313

>Convince the girl who has a crush on you to fight and die for you.

>Get your childhood friend to betray his deepest moral and philosophical beliefs for... Funsies?

>Treat an honest, clearly PTSD damaged soldier like a pawn and wind up turning him into a walking abomination only to show up right before he gets his vengeance and make sure that the kid who killed his mentor will show up in time to murder him.


McGillis confirmed for actual fucking sociopath.
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What would you rather have.
>All 3 surviving with brain damage/vegies
>All 3 surviving by being transformed into Psycho Grazes
>All 3 dead
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>>14020390
Hanlon's razor comes to mind. There are far more solutions of that nature that don't involve standing directly in front of you enemy, totally helpless, with the commander in the front lines. Also, the skies were pretty clear and the ground was flat, so it would be difficult to conceal an ambush.

No, she was just a massive fucking moron.
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>>14020403
isn't that because she's now looking down?
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>>14020410
Dead.
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>>14020410
>All 3 surviving by being transformed into Psycho Grazes


DRAW FAGS GET OVER HERE AND GIVE US GRAZES WITH BOOBS IN MAID OUTFITS
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>>14020359
She's still alive

If she died, her hands would still be on the controls. Having them off means that she still had the brain to move them like that.
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Fuck yeah Ein!
Fuck em up like a boss
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>>14020420
>You become a Graze and you become a Graze! And you too!

Chocolate Man is the Oprah of the Gundam universe
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>>14020421

Or her arms just went limp. The body doesn't freeze up instantly when it dies.
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>>14020412
>At an extremely minor terrain disadvantage against an opponent that can't even retaliate until after they stop the train
>Put yourself in a crippling, massive disadvantage by standing in front of them, waiting for them to get out, then yammering on with a speech about fake honor bullshit

That's beyond stupid. Stupid would be attacking them, but doing it in some moronic way that gets them defeated despite good intentions.

Insane is when you actively stack the odds against yourself as heavily as possible on purpose, against all common sense, and against and remote semblance of self-preservation or the preservation of those that have trusted you with their lives.
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>>14020443
I've seen enough people die to know that their grips on things tend to get tighter
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>>14020444
It's insanely stupid, but it isn't insane when it has zero chance of actually succeeding in the slightest.

As it turns out, stupid isn't one level of stupid. Stupid is all levels of stupid, ranging from someone who has their heads in the clouds too much to a person who is a human vegetable.
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>>14020410

>Season 2 is just going to be the whole cast as Psycho Grazes duking it out
>>
How will Mika beat Ein if Lafter said he was super stronk
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>>14020457

Oh that's right. I forgot browsing rekt threads on /gif/ made you a qualified medical professional.
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>>14020461
How is that not insane, though? The duel idea had no chance at all of being successful. It was well beyond stupidity. It was well beyond any sort of rational thought. The fact that her subordinates actually went through with it is a pretty big reminder that this shit is an anime, and can't be very seriously. No one that is sane would look at this idea on paper and think they stood any chance of not dieing.

If someone sticks their tongue into a power outlet, you call them insane, not stupid, because at least with stupid, you could understand their rationale and goal, even if it was poorly executed in practice. The actions of insane people make no fucking sense at all because they're totally detached from reality.
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>>14020478

>Barbatos revealed some sort of special trump card system, but it somehow requires READING
>Mika doesn't know what to do, and suddenly remembers when Kudelia teaches him how to read and write
>RAISE YOUR FLAG plays
>>
>>14020478
The fuck does she know? She would have been killed by Mika earlier in the season if Orga hadn't stopped them. And that's when Mika was still learning and rough around the edges, making plenty of mistakes.

The current Mika is more or less battle hardened, and able to go blow for blow against Gjallarhorn's best pilots, often while they have supporting mobile suits with them ganging up on him. Ein has lost every single engagement he's participated in up to this point.
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>>14020478

1. Get him to monologue about Crank.
2. Forget who Crank is to cause robot rage.
3. Let him flail around and wait for an opening.
4. ?????
5. Profit.
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>>14020485
This is basically just a semantic argument at this point, but clarity could always help.

That's the thing, stupid is very similar to insane because neither follow any rational thought.

Although I see where you're coming from, the analogy doesn't work. If someone did stick their tongue in a power outlet, there's nothing that can be said other than full retard. The main difference is that insanity follows utterly bizarre and irrational 'logic' that is, yes, detached from reality, while stupidity lacks it entirely. Stupidity is impulsive and emotionally driven. It's stopping science because a satisfactory and generally broken answer was acquired. It's the utter lack of common sense, which is exactly what Carta lacks. Sanity is very different from intelligence on that level.
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>>14020478

Ingenuity. Mika always makes up for the lack of his MS' raw performance with it. Combine that with the fact that Ein is insane.

McGillis has an agreement for his own personal gain. If Mika really is in mortal danger he will help out directly.

Would be super comical if Ein dies protecting Gaelio again though.
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>>14019508
I loved that Obari punch.
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>>14020719
This was posted in MAHQ
http://therobrosz.blogspot.com/2016/03/gundam-iron-blooded-orphans-one-more.html

Guess what their reaction was
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>>14020837
Someone tell guntank to fix his spelling jesus

>Those fucks defending IBO

HAHAHAHA
>>
>>14020837
>MAHQ

Literally who
>>
>>14020837
>all this broken English

Is this some Indonesian blog again?
>>
>>14020935
Guntank is mexican
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>>14019658
fuck that and give me a an anime around the war.That seems way more interesting than this.

I still feel bad for that guy who brought annotated copy of Ars Goetia to watch IBO
>>
>>14019933
Crank was commiting suicide due to not wanting to disobey an order.

Ein is blowing that out of proportion
>>
>>14020222
learn history. that is what caused WWII
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>>14020848
Where are they defending it?
>>
>>14021121
UK and France impossing stupid rules to Germany after WWI?
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>>14018725
Really? Your head's off!!!
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>>14019214
Your waifu's dead. Deal with it mate.
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>>14021576
he kinda has a point. then again, anime has had really small things cause perma-death, and big wounds get walked off...

also, Okada
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>>14019851
>>14019472
>no dead body shown
>implying she's dead
If I have learned one thing about gundam, its never believe someones actually dead unless you see their body destroyed or you see that they lost the life in their body.
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>>14021653
Well if they didn't survive, then those were some really shitty death scenes.
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Is it bad that I hate every character and hope they all die by the end?
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>>14021657
Same senpai
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>>14021656
I think that would be more fitting to the whole message and theme of these last few episodes, but of course we can't have not a big dragged out death scenes of characters that have actually have names.
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>>14021657
Tekkadan is pretty based so far. I've been getting solid entertainment out of not-zeon getting rolled because they are cocky as shit. I hope everything works out for the crazy kids in the end. People here are just being butt-blasted over a 3 episode waifu.
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>>14021716
>pretty based

Nah. they are a whole bunch of whiny kids in way over their heads.

Biscuit was the only sane one, but he got killed and they all went full retard because of it.

I hope they all burn.
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>>14021738
>Being this mad about a bitch with stupid eyebrows getting BTFO trying to start a fucking duel.
>>
>>14021716
>>14021749
>You have to be a cartafag to dislike tekkadan
The concept of a band of war-orphans flying around in robots sounds fun, but pretty much all of them are extremely boring.
>>
>>14021749
I don't give a shit about her either.

glad she got offed in a kekworthy way

like I said, I hope they ALL burn.
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>>14018490
pops? Crank is his husband.
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>>14021760
Every explanation I've heard about being anti-Tekkadan has been pretty ridiculous so far and boils down to 'how dare they do what they have to in order to survive. They should have disbanded after CGS and gone back into being homeless/slaves/prostitutes.'
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>>14018401
probably the only time in a gundam show where I'm actually hyped to buy the gunpla its trying to advertise.

I'm getting two Graze Ein, one custom and one for regular build.
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>>14019313
More like this girl.
>Goes crazy because of revenge
>amputee
>Got a large OP mobile suit.
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>>14019938
Nah, Guts will.
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>>14020398
She said she was feeling jealous or something while watching Guts train with Shino instead of her.
>>
>>14020022
>yfw ein pulls a burning/god finger off on mika, complete with shining gundam's theme playing in the background
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>>14019049
Well, that works unless it's Gundam 00 where dudes who are shown on screen getting exploded in their cockpits have returned with just a single scar.
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>>14021653
>never believe someones actually dead unless you see their body destroyed or you see that they lost the life in their body.

Tell that statement to this guy. His GM got a direct hit from Dom's Bazooka - at point blank range. His body is not shown but we know he's dead.
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>>14021826
mah nigghar!
>>
>>14020205
You know, Treize was an honorable nigga and never would have had that happen to him.
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