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Gundam IBO (Iron Blooded Orphans)

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24ep. "A Future Reward" preview pics
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The old lady in the second screenshot looks like she's thoroughly fed up with this shit.
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>>14011631
> Orga's so serious he now has TWO mics
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>>14011631
i just want gaelio to be safe
i couldn't give two shits about anyone else
i hope ein gets to kill some kids too before hes put out of his misery
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>>14011631
I'm really looking forward to seeing how Ein's super allota vagina system and hyper-modern custom Graze stacks up against Mika.

And damn, is the Kimaris Trooper head not fucking glorious? Gives me Shredder vibes. The NG better be great.
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>>14011649
>I'm really looking forward to seeing how Ein's super allota vagina system and hyper-modern custom Graze stacks up against Mika.

Hopefully it actually challenges him, which is something that hasn't happened since he fought the bloody Turbines.
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>everyone looking serious and gritting their teeth

MUST BE ENDGAME TIME GUYS
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All I care about anymore is Gaylio surviving.
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>>14011631
RIP Garma
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Yeah gali gali is the only reason I'm watching at this point
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Merribit looking a little better each episode.
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Please let Ein get a couple named kills.
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>>14011760
it'll be shino a turbine and a couple random kids, maybe ride
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>>14011631
Gali-Gali you better survive this.
>>14011760
long as it isn't Tamaki i'm good.
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how many opharns will die in the hands of ein? i mean the last episode show to many mobile workers so probaly many people will die i hope
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>>14011760
most likely Shino.

He is piloting Crank's Graze, Ein will be like a raging bull when he sees the ryuuseigo.
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>>14011914
probably. heck could see a bunch of those blood thirsty nameless kids going out. and Rider Mass could die....
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>>14011631
Man, I'm expecting death, but the only characters I don't want to die are technically the bad guys
I feel nothing for any of tekkadan
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>>14011784
Tamaki needs to die to engage Akihiro's latent bloodlust. Guy hasn't had a seriously badass moment since he was about to wrestle over the Mobile Worker with his Bro's Man Rodi.

>>14011925
Ride is the most gung-ho about it, so he'll live to reform his ways. The other two are guaranteed for kill tho.

>>14011932
>I feel nothing for any of tekkadan
I kinda like Orga? And Akihiro is too bland to dislike.... Shiino seems pretty chill overall, but he's going to eat it.
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>>14011951
I like Orga too, I've always thought he comes off as a kid in over his head. I also like the old man mechanic, he's pretty cool too.
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I honestly think Ein's going to kill nobody.

No-one in this show has had any sense of truly being threatening at all when staring down the orphans and Ein's been a joke all the way through the series. Why would it be any different?
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>>14011631
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>>14011972
Because it's the finale. If you haven't noticed, characters change drastically to suit the plot convenience of the moment, rather than plot changing characters and then characters influence the plot, continuing the cycle.
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>>14011972
>Ein's been a joke all the way through the series

He would be Carta Redux, because this is how the drama plays out in the anime.
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>>14011977
The noses in this show are so weird
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>>14011972
>Why would it be any different?
When Shino was beating up on Carta's boys, he referenced their A-V advantage. Akihiro and Setsuna also talked about it, with Akihiro using it to adjust his firing angle on the fly.

Ein has, like, a dozen or more fucking AV outputs. Mika's 3 whiskers still output through 1 single cord - Ein has three similar in/out cables between his shoulder-blades alone. Nevermind the base of the spine, the base of the skull, or his shoulders. Guy is going to have super-human reflexes. I expect him to cut bullets in half midair with those axes.
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Why are the preview images always 'characters looking at something'? It's like whoever takes them never intended the viewers to get excited for the coming episode.
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>>14011972
Why woundn't it be different? The thing is almost over and Ein almost got Shino in his last fight, now equipped with what seems to be a really powerful MS and three stakes of AV system he should be the biggest threat yet... Sadly I'm almost sure this could end in disappointment
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>>14011631
I'm guessing Gali dies while saving Ein and Ein will kill the pink Graze
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>>14011993

It's not even the AV advantage, they've had it so ridiculously fucking easy that it almost beggars belief that Ein could be a threat even after being turned into a hedgehog. The Brewers were steamrolled, Gali went from someone vaguely threatening to someone who has trouble fighting Mika one on one even in a Gundam, and Carta's band of bozos are the only opposition they've even faced on Earth, the place where it was said that Gjallarhorn means business and they're nothing like the arrogant dipshits who lorded over Mars.

With all that said, too, they intend to make one of the most utterly forgettable and barely competent rival characters in all of Gundam some kind of implacable annihilator?
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>>14011951
>Tamaki needs to die to engage Akihiro's latent bloodlust.
eh? Guts and tamaki haven't had a conversation since the brother thing way back when that was a thing, tamaki dying wouldn't really affect anyone except Rider.
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>>14012101
He'll kill a side character or two at best. That's enough to make him seem threatening before Mika fights in his first disadvantageous fight in the series. After struggling, he'll beat Ein down anyway. I really wish Okada had been more active. At least we'd get more drama than this crap.
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>>14012101

Ein could have been built up to be something if the show hadn't spent like 15 episodes doing fuck nothing in space.
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>>14012169
>>14012175

Really, I just feel as though they've written themselves into a corner, even with a character so simple. If he suddenly tears Tekkadan to pieces, even with the AV business people will be disbelieving because all he did previously was ramble about his cheap Ramba Ral knock-off and get his shit kicked in. If he doesn't, or if he just kills one or two forgettable side characters and then Mika stomps him into the dirt like almost everyone else they've faced, then people will decry it as the ultimate waste of an upgrade and a character anyway.

Pick your poison, all the rest.
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> 鉄血のオルフェンズ関連。先行カット紹介の前に。今週末放送第24話「未来の報酬」に関して。カット数が450カットオーバーでかつ戦闘も激しいという物量的にもスケジュール的にも厳しい話数を何とか踏ん張って完成に辿りつけてくれた関係スタッフ全員に感謝します。

Something from the producers twitter. Anyone want to translate?
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>>14012269
>Something from the producers twitter. Anyone want to translate?
The producer is claiming the ep 24 battle used 450 cuts and was extremely difficult by sheer volume of work, and he thanked the crew for a good job.

Still, isn't that a bit late?
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>>14012203
I'm not even sure where the cycle begins. They write dumb shit to justify the battles while fitting some plot, I think, but something goes terribly wrong along the way.
For example
>alright: the outline is Kudelia and co. meeting colonists
>suddenly there's a revolt, they're trying to take independence
>kudelia helps them and they leave
>they only revolted when Kudelia arrived because... Gjallerhorn brought the weapons!
>okay okay, but they can't know who she is so Kudelia is shopping in a different colony while Orga and Turbines do nothing
>how about we put that betrayal idea with Biscuit's brother here?
>dunno, I liked the betrayal one with Fumitan
>shut up we can do both
>next, Mika can't be nearby so he'll be saving Kudelia in the other colony
>shit, she has to be with colonists
>okay he's actually saving Atra but she's disguised as... nah, nobody would fall for that so I guess Gjallerhorn doesn't know her and she's pretending, also Biscuit is there
>meanwhile the rioters have weapons and they're asking for more rights, which is totally cool
>but since it was all Gjallerhorn's plan, all the protesters are mowed down before her eyes!
>oh shit we need to wrap up Fumitan's part, just write in a death scene where she protects her from the attack
>shit it's too unrealistic, make it just one bullet, I don't care what you do
>alright so then Kudelia is noticed by these TV guys who interview her
>they get around censors by calling that fat man, who might have set them up in the first place, I forget
>so now Kudelia has super political skills and goes on TV and tells everyone Gjallerhorn is bad, which they already knew and Gjallerhorn knew they knew but this time it works because she's Kudelia!
>a fight?
>uhh, add in Gjallerhorn's force of goons who come to quiet the riots except they bring 200 mobile suits for Mika to kill
>also have Gali appear, I forgot about him but that would be a perfect battle
>also also I forgot about Char, please work him in somehow
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>>14011977
>IBO predictable

No one predict Carta's savage asspanking in the previous episode.
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>>14012331

Yes they did.

The only thing they fell short of was guessing that Mika would kill pilots outside their suits.
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>>14012331
I saw that coming a mile away. I loled heartily when Akihiro interrupted their posing in the episode before and she and her squad were systematically getting torn apart by Mika, Shiino, and Akihiro before Carta crumbled the Biscuit, really only succeeding in activating Mika's berserker mode. I loled even more when they started to pose again, this time after they really pissed off Mika, and got smashed before they even got back in their mobile suits.
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>>14012331
It was just wishful thinking of those of us who didn't want to see our waifu get her (wonderful) ass brutally murdered.
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Is there a creditless OP yet?
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>next episode
>lots of possible deaths
how exciting. hopefully it doesn't disappoint
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>>14011631
Kimaris a best, fuck haters
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>>14012496
what? Everyone loves the Kimaris.
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>>14012523
I'll admit, I didn't like the original head... at least, not until the boosters were added. It just felt ill-proportioned overall. Kimaris + Booster is love, and Kimaris Trooper is Life.

Or death.

We'll find out in the next two episodes.
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>>14012543
Trooper is growing on me, hopefully the next episode he does some cool stuff. and doesn't die
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>>14012543
Poor thing, no idea what is McGillis plan but one thing for sure he already killed Carta and Gaelio could follow
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>>14012554
>posting lewd up skirt shots of Kimaris-chan
got more?
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>>14012550
The Trooper's only real weak-point are the shoulders - they're just plain. Then again, elaborate armor gets in the way of mobility, so, I'm not too bothered.
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>>14012331
Everyone was calling her dying the moment she was introduced. Everyone thought she would die a few episodes before she did but for some reason was let go which amounted to nothing. She still died.
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>>14012467
At this point that's the only thing that won't disappoint anyone (unless the deaths are full of QUALITY).
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>>14012569
yeah, parts I love of the trooper. those sexy colored legs. but as you said those shoulders are really boring. not too sure about the butt on the trooper yet. kinda big.
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>>14011643

He always had two mics. They all always had them. Not only does every character wearing the headset in the preview pics them have them, but you can see them all wearing the same double headsets in the first episode.
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>>14012559
kay
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>>14012594
Man look at all that fat lost, I wonder what kind of diet Kimaris went on
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>>14012619
That just made me think of the barbados as a girl wearing a shirt that shows off her midriff.
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>>14012635
>tomboyish girl showing off her abs carrying a big mace to beat people up with it...
Why you do this anon? now I can never get this and its your fault!
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>>14012594
But the rear-skirt is for the hover-mechanic, it's 100% functional. Also, that thing apparently has mines in it.

Gali-Gali is going to wreck some mobile-workers in the next few episodes.
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>>14012776
I know, doesn't change the fact i think its too big. it looks way better when its transformed but other than that, looks rather cumbersome.
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>>14012786
Looks fine to me, although the paint job certainly helps.
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>>14012799
Seriously tho, I fucking love this paint job.
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Gali-Gali's face gives off such a "Shit, I don't want to die this episode" vibe.

Like he's internally thinking "Okay, I've made it THIS far as notGarma, I just got to hold out for two more episodes..."

He's so fucked.
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>>14011631
anyone else think mika is a heero clone?
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>>14012903
Gali-Gali can do it, he can survive. Don't jinx him.
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>>14012903
He needs to live to kick Macky's ass and to put down Ein
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>>14012331
everyone knew she would die beccause it was obvious how Mika is savage and her division was a joke in terms of actual combat.
Beginning of the episode it fact confirmed it ,rather than the event itself because IBO has became that predictable.
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>>14013013
>Beginning of the episode it fact confirmed it
>carta beginning of episode death flags everywhere
>same with biscuit
so...if galigali has death flags in the first 2 minutes of the episode he's dead. if not he might survive.
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>>14013021
For some reason they do their cliche twice only.

Only Fumitan like death flag is left to be done twicce,although episode's name is not Ein or Gaelio , which means S2 is going to die.
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>>14013021
If we judge by the episode title Orga or the majority of Tekkadan will die, for a future reward
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>>14012903

Believe in best boy. He can do this if we're lucky.

I just want to see him smile again like pic related.
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>>14013080
Gali gali is the only reason I'm watching IBO he better not die. kinda hope he hangs on the sidelines in the next episodes fight cause his chance of death lower quite a bit. Plus this episode needs to have Ein at center stage cause we're getting something "unique" in IBO with Ein being one with the mech.
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>>14013089

>Gaelio is killed by Ein whilst attempting to re-instill a sense of humanity in him again

Why is this too easy to see happening
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>>14013131
Ein would have to go pretty postal for this to happen.
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It's funny. Early on Gali and Char were inseparable and no one gave a shit about them. Gali gets away from Char and he turns into the best character on the show.
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I want to fuck Marvel
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>>14013149
gedum dipple zuddah dessert ark
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If Gali dies, we petition Banpresto.
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>>14013209
I just want Crazy Flit vs Crazy Mika
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>>14013227
Mika Vs. Inaho
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>>14012911
bullshit

Gali-gal and EinGrazemeister are the dream team bros of death we deserve...
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>>14013147
You know, McGillis better pull off a "mwahaha, I was the villain all along" and do something because Grimgerde has literally done fuckall.
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>>14011972
He's going to kill the laughter because of symbolism and because shit waifu.

>>14012175
Dude is this series' Orange-kun/Patrick. There was never anything TO build up to.

>>14013227
Mika doesn't have psychic powers, so he loses to genocide granpda.
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>>14013268
>Grimgerde has literally done fuckall.

It sold gunpla. That's really the only thing any MS needs to do to succeed.
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>>14013282
>It sold gunpla. That's really the only thing any MS needs to do to succeed.
Yeah, it's a cool design, and it looks to be a really awesome gunpla, but I still want to see it actually do something.
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>>14013282
>it sold gunpla
this dip-shit response. can't believe people have to use this response to "counter" why people are upset that IBO is failing in the mecha action department.
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>>14012331
Like anons said that was about as obvious as Fumitan's "betrayal" and Biscuit's obvious deathflags. The biggest surprise in the show was Mika's psychopathic pep talk which is kinda hollow since he's so shallow, though.
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>>14011986
plot? In IBO? cool story bro.
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>>14013872
Yes, there is. So far I have counted a total of 3 occurrences of plot in the past 23 episodes.
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>>14013668
Sorry there's not enough laser lights and lens flare to keep your sperg brain distracted. You wanted gundam with "muh gritty realism", well wish granted motherfucker. Don't blame sunrise because /m/'s retarded hive mind can't decide what it wants due to huffing spraypaint fumes all goddamn day.
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>>14013888
IBO isn't an example of good gritty realism retard. I don't even remember asking for that in the first place, but since /m/ is one person I guess I'll suffer through it too.
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I feel like just when Ein is about to win, McGillis will assist Tekkadan while donning his mask. Gaelio will realize it's him based on the MS movements but he'll be dealt with very quickly.
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All these gaelio fags
great taste /m/, let us pray for his safety
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>>14013888
>Sorry there's not enough laser lights and lens flare to keep your sperg brain distracted. You wanted gundam with "muh gritty realism", well wish granted motherfucker.
every thread
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>>14013888
so what exactly does IBO have besides your "yuh gritty realism" that can keep your highly intellectual brain satiated?
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Who are the best subs for this series?
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>>14013888
Damn son.
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>>14013147
>Gali gets away from Char and he turns into the best character on the show.
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>>14011631
And now to summarize the characters thoughts in the given stills.
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>>14013147
>Early on Gali and Char were inseparable and no one gave a shit about them
Since the beginning I thought the Gjallarhorn side of things were a lot more interesting
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>>14014073
>Since the beginning I thought the Gjallarhorn side of things were a lot more interesting
That's just sad considering all they've been doing is providing exposition and not much else.
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>>14013282
why are you even bothering to watch the anime then?
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>>14014041
Bump for answer
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>>14013282
Better keep all mobils suits in the hangar then, they just need to sell by existing.
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>>14011951
>>14011970
>I like Orga too, I've always thought he comes off as a kid in over his head.

Same here. Also don't forget that poor Orga has to continually push himself to be a better leader, otherwise if he doesn't, who knows what that psychotic little murder machine Mika will do to him?
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>>14014084
Why do you have a trip on?
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>>14014041
The official ones.
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>>14014089
>sisYPHus
Because I can't remember it if I remove it
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>>14014102
Then stop posting.
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>>14014092
To be fair, they're the only ones really out right now. There's Manko subs, but the script is largely the same, just with some karaoke.
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Did the Kimaris even use the shuriken things on its shoulders? I don't remember.
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>>14014226
Once when they first fought with barbie
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INCURSIO!!!!!!!!!
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>>14014226

Just the once, it left a cut mark on Barbatos' facial right cheek.
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>>14012269
>>14012279
>Translation: We'll reign in the QUALITY this time guys. We promise!
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With all this talk of IBO s2 having a different timeslot I remembered how when G-Reco finished, it was given a better timeslot for reruns.
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>>14012458
wait for the dvd release i mean blu ray
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>>14013149
AMWF
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>>14014440
Anyone know the ratings for the last few episodes?

They were quite more eventful so it should be slightly higher.
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>>14014440

Weird, why did it shoot back to 2.1 then plummet to 1.2 again? These ratings make no sense.
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>>14014502
Atmospheric entry episode. Maybe people are only tuning in when there's a fight?
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Is that Fenrir on the Fareed crest? If so, Gaelio's probably dead because muh allegories.
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>>14014577
> Unicorn and Banshee
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>>14014577
Ever heard of Lady and the Unicorn?
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>>14014577
It's probably Fenrir, yeah, but it kinda looks like a lion.

Who's Tyr then? Almiria or some random Seven Star person we haven't seen yet?
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>>14014584
>>14014591
But but Grimsby!

Eight legs!
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>>14014609
four Vaganias
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>>14014609
>tfw the original tapestry had SPIDERS hidden in the grass
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>>14014597
Those things are family crests, so likeable it belongs to another family, unless I remember wrong wasn’t Ratatoskr the Issue family crests
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>>14014689
Issue crest is Ratatoskr and Yggdrasil
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>>14014751
So for other families - if they ever get shown - we probably can expect Huginn/Muninn, maybe Jormungandr and what else?
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>>14014751
So who's Garm?
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>>14014756

Nidhogg, of course.
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>>14014440
I guess Reco performed better than expected.
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>>14012269
>>14012279
>450 cuts full of Studio 3's QUALITY
Can't wait.
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>>14014756
Nidhogg, like Anon said. Or even maybe Hraesvelger.
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>>14014777
>>14015032
It bears mentioning that the snake at the feet of the squirrel in the Issue family crest might be Nidhogg itself.
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>>14014534

They've gone up several times then gone back down again.
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Mystery box in 30 minutes
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>>14015117
Imouto, she'll forget about blondie some day.
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>>14015117
Well someone has to pick the mystery box
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>>14015117
Your sacrifice was admirable, >>14015144

I would have posted it anyway
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Oh my.
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>>14015275
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>>14015275
That thing axes are huge, I wonder if his shoulder weapons are machineguns, doubt they deal a lot of damage but it can fire while in melee
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>>14013279
>Mika
>losing
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>>14015310
Not just the axes, look at the joints. Ein's Graze is reinforced as fuck.

As for the shoulder-guns, I feel like they're going to be great for targeting Tekkadan Mobile Workers while Ein is bashing down Norba or laying down suppressive fire while juggling two or more opponents.

Also, any chance the edges will be plastic and not seals?
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>>14015275
>poor little Gundam boy
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>>14015275
>>14015297
too bad he'll die in two episodes
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>>14015297
> dat pose
Specineff?
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>>14015330
Hope its pile bunkers aren’t a onetime use thing like the mace and he can spam them like the alteisen
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>>14011642
isn't she the hillary clinton character that wants the parliament seat that the old man tekkadan is escorting is trying to get
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>>14015275
>>14015297

GENERAL GRAVOUZE
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>>14015353
sad but true, long as Gali-Gali doesn't die to save him only to have Ein die on his own an episode later.
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I'm kinda getting annoyed with people reasoning there must be a season 2 because "they can't wrap up all the elements of the plot within 2 episodes." I mean, seriously? What's so difficult to wrap up? The plot is pretty damn bare when you strip away the false complexities.
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>>14016018
>too much content
>not enough time!!!
only idiots think this. take 10 minutes in a little dialog scene to explain everything. little clip show of pictures showing where everyone ended up etc.
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>>14016039
And if they do that, I'm expecting backlash against the show for fucking the dog so much.
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>>14015275
>>14015297
M.D. GEIST
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>>14016345
MS GEIST
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>>14016367
MS GEINST
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Most Dangerous Graze
Most Dangerous One
Most Dangerous Ein
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>>14011631
so when and where does it stream?
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>>14015275
Oh my god that thing's GIANT
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>>14016018

because they won't do that.

either a movie or season 2 is on the way. accept it.

there is no way they can wrap up mika's and orga's relationship when there's is obvious some conflict left there as well as all the other stuff.
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The 1st season seems like it's a trailer for the actual show, which will be civil war on earth or another earth vs colonies conflict like most of gundam
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>>14016018


nah, there will be a second season and the middle of the show suffered for it. the change in pace wasn't great. 25 episodes were originally planned but it seems there will be a season 2 now.
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I like Orga and Mika's relationship. And the relationship the Orphans have with each other.

The show lost focus mid-season, though.
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>>14017177
>there will be a second season
I love this meme
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>>14017195

how mad will you be when it happens tho.
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>>14017177
I dont think it was changed in the middle, the gunpla like the kimaris trooper or graze ein were announced as silhouettes way before even the gusion was captured. definitely planned from start as 2 part or 1 part and movie
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>>14017209

maybe, but the middle portion of the show completely loses the tone it had.

biscuits brother and friends were not needed.
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>>14017209
People need to understand that a show cannot make any drastic changes while airing like that. Key frames, scripts, VA recordings, etc, are all done in advance with only things like finishing up the animation remaining. They can change small things, like in BF they tossed sazaki into a couple backgrounds and added him into an episode they were specifically leaving time open for because of the contest winners gunpla. But making a drastic rewrite and starting from scratch is nearly impossible without causing delays.
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>>14017199
/m/ is going to be butthurt for weeks and basically be impossible to discuss anything with the amount of shitposting and bait threads if a second season gets announced in the next couple of weeks.
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>>14017222
yep, it sucks for things like g reco where they actually forgot about g-arcane having the ability to transform and there was simply no time or budget to even insert a shot of it transforming into one of the later battles
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>>14017454
Called and called again.
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>>14017454
Is that Norba?I can't really tell because of the quality of the jpg and the QUALITY. Can't be the Grimgerde because why would they more robots in the robot show, so it is him I guess. Man, it'd suck if he does bite the dust. As underdeveloped as he is (as everyone in this show is) I liked him.
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There is something wrong when muv shit german edition had more impactful scenes.
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muh ideal
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Is the subbed version out already?
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>>14017463
It is indeed, that is unmistakably a hyakuren shoulder and a graze frame.
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>>14017487
If she isn't destroyed directly after this this show has reached a whole new level of retardation I had thought, if anything it wasn't going to breach.
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>>14017487
how do you even defend this ibofags?
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>>14017501
Calling it now. Ein's about to HULK SMASH but either Mika stops him or Kudelia stops him with her infinite charisma and wisdom by saying something. Atra running towards it is just a red herring, she'll try to get Kudelia out of the way but one of the above will happen.
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>>14017487
Relena did it better
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>>14017510
Everyone who said Carta's death was reasonable because they got out of their suits and were retarded for thinking they wouldn't get slaughtered is getting bitch-slapped by this show's internal logic if she doesn't get cleft in twine by that mighty axe.
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>>14017497
Not on Daisuki, and HS is only ripping it in and hour and a half. Raws are out, though
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HAHA TIME FOR COMEUPPANCE
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>>14017529

That looks almost comical.
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>>14017529
Sound effect: *DOINK*
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This is a cruel Graze eats Graze world
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>>14017523
Guess a couple of hours waiting won't do any harm, might actually try studying.

>tfw when i have to wait till almost 12AM to watch Schwarzemarken

So much for finals.
>>14017529
Looks Tom and Jerry tier.
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>>14017532
did he even die? all i recall is his body being bloody like azee but nothing confirmed if they actually died. at least lafter looked like she exploded, but even then she's probobly just got blood dripping out her nose. where ANY deaths confirmed?
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>>14017544
Nop no one is death until they are grey in this thing, no sure how long it takes to update maybe latter this week
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>>14017549
no crank portrait beside ein
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>>14017454
There can be only Ein
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>>14017553
Oh good god why please tell me that is an inbetween. That CANNOT be a still shot.
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>>14017553
we 80s gundam now
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>>14017553
thats a nice sword
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>>14017556
> Angry Graze noises
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>all this deaths from a Graze

imagine if they put him into a gundam instead
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>>14017569
>>14017577

>imagine if they put him into a gundam instead
But anon that's not just a graze.. It's EIN in Graze form!
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>>14017529
Cue laugh track.
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>>14017583
>Even in death i still serve
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>>14017487
>>14017495

Is it just me or did they literally put 1/100 limbs onto a 1/144 Graze?
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>>14017529
>Nandeyanen!
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>>14017487
Is Ok Orga save the day
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>>14017597
so i guess orga got the harem end
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>>14017558
It's a stillshot
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>>14017605
>you call that shading?
>STOMP
>THIS is shading
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>>14017606
Well at least this thing will get more than 15 seconds of screen time
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>>14017605
is that the grimgerde?
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>>14017588
>>14017611
God damn why are these things so sexy.

They have this Dark Souls feel to them for some odd reason.
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>>14017605
>450 cuts they said!
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>>14017617
most ibo ms design inspired from medieval armor
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>>14017617
all i see is red overflag with tallgeese shoulder
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>>14017605
GRIMGERDE'S BACK
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>>14017619
I just skimmed through the ep and just happened to land on a really QUALITY scene. The rest of it might look good.
It probably won't. More cuts probably meant they spent less time on each individual one
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>>14014577
>8 legged horse
>Sleipnir
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>>14017629
>deliver exposition
>leaves
>ORUFENZ NAMIDA
>no S2
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>>14017529
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>>14017662
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>>14017605
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>>14017611
All of it will be posing.
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Based Ein, saving this show one dead kid at a time.
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>>14017529
>>14017532
>>14017553
>>14017605
>>14017669
even build fighters had more interesting battlefield goddamn
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what time will the youtube channel gundaminfo upload it?
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>>14017696
Who cares, subs out.
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>>14017696
its up now
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>No pilots confirmed dead
>At most Azee dead
>Mika is going to solo Ein
>Char and Gali are going to do something
>Guts doesn't do shit
>Only the blonde drill haired chick got emotional over the deaths
>No one else

A whole lot of nothing
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so how many grazes does IBO have now?
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>Shino twitching
>Azee looks more unconscious than dead
>camera cuts away from Lafter before angry bone crunching noises

Fucking hell, what a fucking copout. I want some confirmed deaths, not some cheap tease. Ein himself got crushed by Mikazuki, who's to say Lafter is just crippled, if not dead?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vllMmwtntx0

The fights were decent. Sure it had QUALITY but
I really wish the middle of IBO was like this rather than shit that 's forgettable
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Fucking knew Ein wouldn't kill shit.

Heaven forbid these people face challenges and loss outside of those so clearly marked with death flags that they might as well be walking corpses.
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>>14017720
>At most Azee dead

Lafter got drill'd hard
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>tfw your gendum's eyes light up whenever you call its name

UNICOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORN
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you'd think they'd put a little more effort into a shot like this
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>>14017727
They didn't even show her body. Just a small spray of blood on the monitor. If those 3 all died I'd be impressed.
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>>14017727
Ein got a giant mace shoved into him and only got better.
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>>14017725
>youtube
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>>14017723
>>14017726
>>14017727
>>14017731
mfw
you know this is coming
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>>14017731
>They didn't even show her body

Ever watch that video of a poor rat being put in a juice mixer?

Yea, something like that
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Are we really supposed to cheer for people that basically suicide charge people?
I mean, what the absolute fuck? Tekkadan could've been named ISIS and nothing else would've changed.
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>>14017720
It's AZ all over again.
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>>14017736
I doubt it.
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>>14017736
I seriously hope they go out and confirm it next week. Copouts like these are boring. I'd rather they kill off side characters people are invested in instead of literallywhos to if they want to highlight the fact that war has casualties.
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>>14017736

Yeah, like shit.

They'll probably have a cut next episode of her being bloodied but alive because barely anyone in Tekkadan can die ever.

Losing comrades in a war story? Pff, the fuck is that? Don't you know that you can wage war and come through it not any worse for wear?
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Man, you guys have the weirdest boners.

Want to see children killed.
Want to see a misguided straight-laced man-robot be victorious.
Want to see this gali-gali guy who only redeeming feature is that his mech has some "nice" face to win

You guys just want Char to win dont you? not talking about the IBO char, but Char Anzable - or at least his characteristics.

As a more serious matter, what do you want Kudelia to do to make her good in everybody's eyes? pick up arms and shoot?
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>>14017737
They're carrying Kudelia, who is the supposed maiden of the revolution and Gjallarjorn being corrupt. The problem is none of their enemies are actually corrupt. McGillis acknowledges and wants to fix Gjallarjorn and Carta, Ein and Gaelio are all clueless idiots.
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>>14017744
what exactly has kudelia done so far?
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>>14017744

Because we want to see that something that advertises itself as a war story has impact.

I sometimes get to thinking that even Kira had more of a struggle than Tekkadan ever did before he rose again as the prodigal son. These people have had it so fucking easy that it hurts, they've gone all the way from Mars to Earth and they've lost nobody except a handful of nameless extras and Biscuit whose fate was sealed the instant he stepped into a Mobile Worker, and now Ein can't even kill one of them with bleeding-edge tech?

It's horse shit, and you know it.
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>>14017747
A case of the colour grey in war?

One thing I am personally seeing and picking up in IBO - There is no true Black and White, and sadly, Mika can only see Black and White. While Eins can only see Black.
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>>14017744
Kudelia's actually in a pretty good place right now. Should've been like this earlier, but I honestly can't complain about her.

Also, after Ein's been through, he could tear through a couple more of those cardboards IBO calls characters before I'd stop cheering. He deserves it, and it's a shame Mika will wreck his shit sideways with ease like every other "fight" he's had.
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>>14017744
>Want to see children killed.
No but this show was presented as a war drama about orphans who grew up with hard lives trying to break out of their poverty. Their forces are like 90% children yet the actual military can't touch the.

>Want to see a misguided straight-laced man-robot be victorious.

Ein is the only villain with even a small amount of build up. I just want something to happen.

>Want to see this gali-gali guy who only redeeming feature is that his mech has some "nice" face to win

He's a decent person in a show full of assholes. He doesn't have much backstory or anything but he at least cares for his comrades.

>You guys just want Char to win dont you? not talking about the IBO char, but Char Anzable - or at least his characteristics.

No

>As a more serious matter, what do you want Kudelia to do to make her good in everybody's eyes? pick up arms and shoot?

Admit she is a fuck up who has gotten tons of people killed? Actually do something instead of sitting around moping? She was at least trying to teach the orphans to read and write early on. She's a nothing character yet the show revolves around her. What the fuck is her journey supposed to do? We've spent 25 episodes on her and she doesn't really have a well thought out solution. It's pathetic and terrible writing. It seems like she wants to either wing it or hope talking to people who don't give a shit will work. Especially after the path of carnage her group has left behind. I don't understand what this show is aiming for. This is the most nothing Gundam show ever.
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>>14017748
Didn't you see how she challenge Ein? She is so brave is amazing ( what was she trying to accomplish there?)
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>>14017747
even gaelio was with mcgillis on sorting out gallahorn. they better hurry up and explain why chocopedo is trying backstab him
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Why did they have to put unnecessary filler in the middle, the show would have been better like this from the start instead of "Having pointless character arcs that will kill someone we don't care about"
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Oh hey, IBO was actually really good for once. Neat.
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>>14017749
Isnt the biggest shame is that the nameless ones who dies are the one that no one remembers but the tekkadan kids? But yeah, Biscuit raised a black flag man.

Also Ein is literal bleeding edge tech haha. Wonder how is his psyche like, now that he is literally just sticks and metal bones?
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>>14017751
Yeah but that's something I would expect in the middle of the show. Ein being the final boss is completely anticlimatic. Even if it gets another season this fight is boring thematic wise.
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>>14017760
But dont you see, this IS the middle of the show. They already announced the second season a few weeks ago.
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>>14017753
>Kudelia does nothing
Did you miss the recent episodes or what? What do you want her to do more than she is doing already? Pilot a MS?
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>>14017761
>They already announced the second season
There hasn't been a single announcement from Sunrise

>>14017762
>What do you want her to do more than she is doing already
Something
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>>14017762
She planned the route? What has she done aside from that? What did she do in 23? 24? Nothing. She planned the route in 22 but what about 21? 20? 19?
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>>14017763

But we have 'soft confirmation' from Daisuki and notes from a single book on Amazon, clearly that's official, right?
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>>14017761
>They already announced the second season a few weeks ago
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>>14017755
Well, neither sides wants to drop a MS into the city because Ahab Reactor issues/politics/shit-writing.
And then someone in a MS decides to drop in.

Also, she's a woman.
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Pretty sure all three of Ein's sparring partners are dead.
Liked the episode today. Animation wasn't where it needed to be, though.

Hopefully we get a 1/100 Ein Graze, though. That thing looks crazy.
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>>14017771
Definitely getting a 1/144 out of it. Cant remember when it is coming out though
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>>14017765
>she planned the route

Nah. It's not explicitly stated but chocolate pedo pretty much arranged everything. All Kudelia did was repeat whatever information he passed to them.
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>>14017771

Norba clearly isn't, and despite the blood we didn't even see the drill break through Lafter's cockpit.

The only one I'm kind of sure is dead is Azee, and she was invisible throughout the entire fucking show so it doesn't matter.
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>>14017763
Huh, according to >>14017766 its only a soft announcement.

Sorry for the confusion.
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>>14017775
>got bonked
>cockpit shot shows her still in one piece

She looks more unconscious than dead.
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Graze ein is pretty crazy. And crazy too.

Poor gali.

>>14017775
>>14017778
They are only dead-dead instead of 'dead' when they show the actual bodies.
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Ein is the only reason I'm still watching the show. Will probably drop it when Mikazuki murders him.
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>>14017736
The post directly above yours is about a guy who got asspulled a survival. Note that I'm not one of those waifufags hoping the girls survive or anything like that. There certainly would be more impact narrative wise if they actually do die, but well, as said, they can still easily asspull the shit out of it.
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>>14017782

Well, they didn't do that with Lafter, and Norba's very obviously still conscious, so I guess that once again narrows it down to Azee.
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>>14017734
You know the show is messed-up when not even the Shrike Team equivalents somehow manage not to get killed very easily. The writers really have commitment issues.
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>>14017782
You mean like how Lockon 2.0 "died" again in 00S2 right?
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>>14017791

IBO >>>>> Victory
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>>14011631

Wow, right into a timeskip. I'm surprised we didn't see more of the initial battle.

Actually, come to think of it: How DID Tekkadan get this far? They're a unit of child soldiers (About platoon-strength?) who mainly rely on Mobile Workers. They have three Mobile Suits, two more from that dude's harem. Their main advantage is that they have two Gundams and one customized suit, and that the pilots are very, very good (Assuming the A-V system makes you an excellent pilot.)

But the enemy has a shit-ton more resources to throw at them, right? They should be dropping like flies now.
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>>14017799
>But the enemy has a shit-ton more resources to throw at them, right? They should be dropping like flies now.

Boy, it's like the utter lack of tension is one of the main problems of the show or something.
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>>14017796
>IBO >>>>> Victory
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>>14017799
Didn't a number of them die in last episode?
I hope so.
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>>14017799

Also, the old guy they want to vote into power is taking things a lot more professionally than Kudalia. Ultimately, the kids are just mercenaries. You use them up, throw them away.

Like, she's still paying them, right? And she's paying them a stupid amount of money? So after they succeed, the kids are basically going to be handed their cash and told to fuck off?

Technically, if Kudalia spent the whole season sitting in her room and not interacting with the kids, there wouldn't be much of a difference in plot, I now realize. I personally think that she's just doing what women do. (i.e. Getting emotionally involved.)
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>>14017799
>They should be dropping like flies now.
they are
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>>14017804

I think a LOT of them died this episode in the opening battle, but they didn't linger on it. Because it would be kind of awkward to go "Yes, a lot of these child soldiers just died horribly."

It's likely the same reason why Tekkadan does not appear to have an infantry component (apart from the guys in the space battle.) They don't want to show kids getting machine-gunned, so they all drive Mobile Workers which are basically light tanks.

I actually think they're doing it quite tastefully when they're clearly confined by an inability to show kids being murdered.
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>>14016345
>>14016367
>>14016371
>>14016520
CAN'T STOP
HE'S JUST A TORSO
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>Nina Purpleton crying for "MUH KIDS"
>"I can't say anything"
>she just has to point out they are all dying for Kudelia's shitty plan
>she just has to point out Kudelia has not yet revealed all the details of her SUGOI plan and how she is supposed to fix the Universe

10/10 writing such engaging and thought provoking confrontation of ideals.
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>>14017799
>How DID Tekkadan get this far?
Okada.
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>>14017814

This is mostly because there isn't any other character to cry. Kudelia can't break down into tears and get all upset, because her thing is that she's a stronk womyn now.

If any of Tekkadan started bitch crying, he would look like a whiner and a shriker, especially because his friends are dying. (Also, Orga would likely fold because holy shit, he's sending his friends to their deaths.)

There really isn't anyone else to provide exposition. Even the loli can't start crying, because she'll look like a pussy.
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>all this stupidity
What was she supposed to do? Stop a robot with the power of words?
I'm surprised she is still able to breath by herself, someone THIS stupid should be on life support.
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>>14017828

Man, just once, I'd love to see someone get sliced in half for doing that.

She wasn't going to do anything else except be brave and plucky, though. Kudelia is dead weight except when it comes to politics, but she's an open target in places like this. I'm surprised Ein didn't punt her with his giant robot foot.
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>>14017828

Well, on the one hand, Ein's crazy.

On the other, yeah, I have no fucking idea what compelled her to talk to him instead of trying to run, unless it was stalling for time.
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>>14017722
0 they currently lack the capacity to recover them.
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>>14017833
>>14017834
Remember Aldnoah.Zero's princess standing in front of the mecha? At the fucking least she had some leverage on the pilot. Kudelia? Not so much.

Also
>loli piloting armored vehicle
It is like I'm watching A.Z AGAIN.
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>>14017828
>>14017834

HE'S REACHED HIS FINAL FORMMMMMM
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>>14017834
We all saw how stalling for time worked for that mobile worker pilot.

That shoulder cannon though.
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>>14017842
>It is like I'm watching A.Z AGAIN.

And still people hold out hope that IBO will end up being good. Poor devils, they should be banned for all eternity from /m/.
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Lafter heavy bleeding, Shino even heavier bleeding.
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why don't gallahorn just do an arial bombardment?
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>>14017852
Sssssh.
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>>14017495
Gunpla sales up.
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>>14017848

It's mostly that they can't actually show it. Remember how Carta died and Ein got maimed? The writers likely aren't allowed to show explicit and gory deaths. They were already toeing the line with the child soldier stuff.

>>14017852

I assume it's difficult, because Mobile Suits are extremely fast and extremely agile. Mobile Workers are light tanks and could be annihilated, but Gjallhorn is trying to ensure that it looks like they have everything under control. Aerial bombardment is serious shit.

Also, you have to handwave some of this stuff. It's like how the enemy never really uses artillery, it's Mobile Suits and tanks.
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>>14017842
If A.Z was airing at the same time as IBO would it have surpassed Gundam?
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>>14017856

I actually think IBO is better than A/Z, especially in this last arc. The main problem with A/Z is the show's cowardice in all of S2.

Really, it would've been fine other than that.
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>>14017495
Holy shit, that looks so good.
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>>14017856

Probably.

A/Z's better than most of this.
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>>14017796
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>>14017616
>MUH COMRADES! MUH FELLINGS!!!
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>>14017857
memes and /m/ raging aside. IBO just had a very slow middle part. The last few eps have been good.

Here's hoping they continue to S2
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>>14017725
Quality hidden by short fast paced battles. Lel
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>>14017863

Honestly, I don't think they need an S2.

S1 is wrapping up pretty well. It's clear that Macky's plan was to have Ein go utterly crazy in the city, turning public opinion against Gjallhorn and leading to a purge. And for all intents and purposes, it's working amazingly well!

Ein really did storm into the city, tried to cut Kudelia in half, and he's ranting like a madman. I don't see this ending any way except messily.
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>>14017852
>why don't gallahorn just do an arial bombardment?

That would require the writers to have an ounce of logic in their stupid brains.
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so with that 450 cuts tweet are we to assume this was the episode thats meant to be the one with the good animation?
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>>14017775
Killing unimportant = no impact.

Hence we sympathise more with Glljarhorn.
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>>14017867
do you think kudelia will die
i mean that was the original purpose of her character and her death would have more of an impact htan any kind of speech she could give
also i can see mika dieing, its the only way he'll make it to that place, last shot will be a straight up rip of this
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I hope Ein becomes in the same league with Yazan and Ali Al Sachez.
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>>14017766
The delusional will try to find any evidence for their fabricated world.
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>>14017852
This is a mecha anime.
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>>14017729
>Based Io Flemming called his gundam
>FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG
>Best Pilot and Gundam ever
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>>14017880

Nah, she's invulnerable.

Seriously, has the peace princess character ever died in a Gundam series? Off the top of my head, I can't remember one, and believe me I would have. I found Relena Peacecraft so fucking annoying, I would've cheered if someone shot her for backtalk.
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>>14017828
Are you really this stupid?

She bought them time by engaging him verbally!
If she had just cowered somewhere, Ein would have probably nuked the entire perimeter before Mika got there.
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>>14016345
>>14017813
Most Dangerous Graze
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>>14017729
00 RAIIISAAAA!!!
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>>14017870
I swear to go if the fight next episode (alright, alright, Mika slapping down Ein one-sidedly without any trouble) doesn't have good animation I'll send a bomb to studio 3.
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>>14017761
This is what IBO fags actually think.
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>>14017892
Well Most Dangerous Ein defeated three mobile suits, with one pilot death confirmed and one more pending.

Still pretty good.

I was thinking for Akihiro to have his Gusion totalled but him surviving.
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>>14017890
>She bought them time by engaging him verbally!
>engaging verbally someone who wants to kill you
She just endangered the whole mission by almost getting herself killed. Perfect job at wasting Tekkadan's sacrifices right after Orga's epic little speech.

But you kinda have a point, Ein is too stupid to make a quick decision.
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>>14017901
Ein's subplot wasn't interesting, but it was just exemplifying how single minded revenge driven people could be.
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>>14017772
April 2016.
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>>14017903

Remember when they were like:
> "All I really want to do..."
> "...Is to kill those fucking-"
> ORPHANSSSSSSS
> NAMIDAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>14017903
Then Tekkedan did the same thing as a group.
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>>14017903
>but it was just exemplifying how single minded revenge driven people could be
This is odd, because I don't see the same thing happening for Tekkadan and their whole subplot about avenging the dead comrades.
I will just write it as "enemies being too slow and dumb when the plot needs too", because otherwise I will never understand what was the point of repeating the whole crap about "MUH CRANK" right in front of the person you have been trying to kill for 23 episodes.
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>>14017908

Actually, it is.

A normal mercenary group would've gone:

> "Fuck it, half of us are dead. We out, niggas."
> "But what about the contrac..."
> "Use it to wipe your ass, we're going home."

They are performing literal banzai charges to complete this mission. Lot of loyalty for a hired gun.

But seriously, the whole point is that they didn't cut their losses and fuck off. Anyone else would have.
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>>14017908
This. IBO really needs to have a Bad End. Not because I'm an edgy fag but because it makes the most sense for the type of story they're setting up.
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>>14017778
If it wasn't an anime I would say she was dead by that head wound.
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>>14017911
>cut their losses and fuck off

Can they really do that at this point?
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>>14017911
>Lot of loyalty for a hired gun.
Their loyalty is shown as a good thing though. They are heroic and brave, Ein is a stupid prick.
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>>14017903
have you not watched the past couple of episodes?
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>>14017912

It's not really going to be a Good Ending in any sense of the word, is it? Most of the kids are dead. Char is going to get away with all the stuff he pulled. The politician they want to elect clearly thinks the kids are worth less than the slime between his toes.

Seriously, I'll point out this is their FIRST CONTRACT and it's a bloodbath. There's no way the group can stay together after this.

>>14017919

Why not? They could kick Kudelia and Magnificent Beard to the curb. I mean, look at the odds they're up against.

It's like you have to assault a city defended by the US Army. I would look at that and go "No fucking way. Not in a million years. Let's fuck off, boys!"
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>>14017889
They might. She hasn't really been effective compared to contemporaries like Releena or heck, even Marina
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>>14017920
>Their loyalty is shown as a good thing though. They are heroic and brave, Ein is a stupid prick.
Neither side is heroic at this point.
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>>14017935

That is absolutely not the case at all.
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>>14017935
>Neither side is heroic at this point.
Oh, please, the kids going BANZAI in the tin cans were supposed to be heroic.
The fact that the series lacks of any impact because of shitty direction and pretentious + obvious writing is a completely different issue.
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>>14017937
Right because they threw in Merribit crying and flat out saying it's wrong for no reason.
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>>14017939
Nope.

Go annoy your daughters.
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holy shit, this was anticlimatic as fuck.

the whole 'it's been three days since this battle started' is a lazy way to show this has been a long, consuming battle. the part with mobile workers getting shot at the bridge while the mobile suits fight pretty much effortlessly doesn't help either.

also, ein out of fucking nowhere with the giant graze, proceeding to kill three named characters in the most stupid and anticlimatic ways in like five minutes. 'he's better than mikazuki!'

I'm honestly pissed about their deaths and it's not even because they're dead, but over how meaningless it seemed, like it was purely for shock value and they've failed even at that.

even shino with the graze, which supposedly should be more meaningful since it's been kinda building up since like episode 3, was quick and unfulfilling.

ever since the whole 'will there be a season 2 or not' thing, I was kinda hoping s1 was this bland because they weren't expecting 2 seasons and pushed most of the plot to the other half, but after this episode I'm honestly hoping they'll just finish ibo and move on to the next series.
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>>14017942
The same Merribit that later says
>I have no argument, but I will keep crying anyway
She looks more like a retard than anything else, all she had to do was point the finger towards Kudelia and call her bullshit.
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>Alaska has no mobile suit and Ahab Reactor restrictions
>has element of surprise
>could have sent a whole division or something
>Send just Carta, an incompetent soldier who's failed repeatedly and her 2 escorts to stop the train
>hurr I did everything I could to stop them

With Gjallarhorn being this dumb, it's no wonder chocopedo wants to reform it.
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>>14017950
Just because the staff is shit at showing the point doesn't mean that there isn't one. The scene was there for a reason. It is badly executed but it's still there.
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>>14017939
Hai, Tomino-sensei. Tasekete, onegai.
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>>14017941
>Oh, please, the kids going BANZAI in the tin cans were supposed to be heroic.
It might of supposed to be heroic but its not for several reasons.
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>>14017951
I guess the old man has his agenda too.
I hope at least, otherwise it would really be a load of crap.
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Merribit why even be a voice of reason when absolutely nobody listens?
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>>14017948
>not excepting or appreciating the ein train

Only good part of ep.
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>>14017939
no pls
watching GReco and IBO back to back is like jumping from the pan into the fire.
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>>14017964
>its not for several reasons.
Are you kidding? A kamikaze attack is not heroic for a Japanese?
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>>14017950
The magical mystical negro confirmed that it's wrong.

The problem is that those kids are too damaged to do anything else and their bonds are too tight.
They ride together and they die together.

You also wouldn't have Orga's guilty as fuck expression throughout the episode if he didn't know that this shit is fucked on a fundamental level.
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What if one of Graze Ein's bladed toes actually snapped? It wouldn't be able to stand anymore.
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>>14017942

That's only to reinforce how tragic their noble sacrifice is.

You have a world order specializing in outlawed cybernetics, repression of specific parties and deliberately fomenting rebellion among colony workers just so they have an excuse to kill them, and you have a band of mercenaries with blood thicker than water who regard each other as family, and they'd do anything for each other to find a place to belong and every death is so painful because the responsibility of leadership weighs heavily upon Orga's shoulders or some shit.

It's as black and white as Rorschach's mask. It's always been that way with Gundam, it's just that sometimes the franchise is good at pretending it isn't.
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Next on "Mobile Suit Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans" Episode 26 "Iron-Blooded Orphans"
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>>14017972
Hopefully its called into question when they are child soldiers fueled by a want for revenge for a guy who didn't think they should be there.

Bonus points for being involved in a corrupt cause.
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>>14017977
Maybe flatten the remaining three blades? That's probably a huge design flaw. On the other hand, the Kimaris Trooper is great. I hope a new 1/100 gets announced soon.
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>>14017908

Well, to be fair, Ein is supposed to act crazy. He's a half-dead cyborg grafted to his machine using Alaya-Vijnana. Choco Char was banking on his mental instabillity so he can go and violate a bunch of Earth taboos, such as entering a city illegally as an cyborg abomination grafted into a mobile suit. If he fucks the city up next week, that's all going to reflect badly on Gjallarhorn, especially since this was all done under the approval of Gaelio, a Gjallarhorn top brass.

>>14017911

There's really nowhere for them to fuck off. The only way they're getting off Earth is to help Makanai win the elections, so he can use his powers as Arbrau's Prime Minister to arrange a way for them to to get back to space.
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>>14017975
>You also wouldn't have Orga's guilty as fuck expression throughout the episode if he didn't know that this shit is fucked on a fundamental level.
I wouldn't have him making a big speech and then everybody getting heroic deaths too.
They are clearly trying to glorify his and Tekkadan's attitude.

Did Ideon not have some kind of kamikaze unit as well? Was that not shown in a completely different way?
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>>14017986
>That's only to reinforce how tragic their noble sacrifice is.
Not really. The reverse actually. If anything, the point was to have a Marrbit as the outsider who, because she isn't part of the group and thus not biased and clouded by emotion, is able to see the situation for what is: fucked up. It is tragic precisely because they harbour the illusion that their sacrifice is noble.

That you actually think there's anything noble or heroic about it just means that you too, like the Tekka kids, are being caught up in their hype. Do NOT confuse and mix up their sympathetic background as a justification that they are in any way heroic or noble in their actions.

If you really think that Gundam is back and white, then I'm afraid I'm going to mock you for being as silly as those Zeon apologists (especially those Gato fags.)
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>can't tell if Shino is dead or alive

Yamagi on suicide watch.
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>>14018001

>That you actually think there's anything noble or heroic about it just means that you too, like the Tekka kids, are being caught up in their hype. Do NOT confuse and mix up their sympathetic background as a justification that they are in any way heroic or noble in their actions.

I couldn't give a shit on a personal perspective, I'm arguing what the show is presenting, and that is that Tekkadan are a bunch of plucky, tragic noble souls and Gjallarhorn are almost all oppressive asshats.

And yes, Gundam is black and white, though really I think it would have become obvious even back then when we had our main villain take being compared to Hitler as a compliment.
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>>14018010
>what the show is presenting
And I just pointed out why that is not the case about Merribit and the black dude's interaction.

>back then when we had our main villain take being compared to Hitler as a compliment.
While other Zeon like Ral was shown to be not a dick. Black and white doesn't mean one villain is purely evil. The point was that zeeks and feddies have their share of dicks are good guys just trying to do the right thing.
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>>14018015
>dicks are good guys
dicks and good guys
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>>14017906
Kek
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>>14018015
>While other Zeon like Ral was shown to be not a dick.

Well, yeah. Good for him. Doesn't change the fact that Zeon started the war by killing millions of innocent people, dropped colonies on Earth, and that its leadership wanted to subjugate what was left of humanity after the population was thinned out, does it?
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It's been a while since I've enjoyed an IBO episode but I was on the edge of my seat cheering for Ein today.
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>>14017723
Him being a shit character aside, I'd be fine if Shino was still alive, Ein got distracted by the big prize before finishing him off. The Turbines should most definitely be dead considering the damage, though.
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>>14017856
What were AZ ratings?
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>>14018060
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>>14017969
>watched G-Reco the week before IBO started
>appreciate G-Reco even more now, warts and all
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Why is McGillis trying to kill Gaylio when they both want to reform the corrupt Gjallarhorn and Gaelio is one of the four of so Gjallarhorn characters who isn't a corrupt scumbag?

Why did McGillis turn Ein into the Graze Ein, when Ein is fanatically loyal to Gaelio, and is now the strongest person in the series? If he wanted Gaelio to die, why imbue his bodyguard with superpowers?

Why did he cause Carta's death, when Carta is heir to the most respected name in Gjallarhorn and loves him totally? Couldn't he have used her in some better way than having her die?

How is he going to reform the corrupt Gjallarhorn when the success of Tekkadan will basically completely destroy Gjallarhorn's credibility because they will have gotten dunked on across the solar system by a bunch of children?

Oh well, at least we got to see Ein beating some ass in the Psycho Graze.
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>>14018212
Uuuuuhhhhhh

W-w-wait for Season 2! It'll all make sense then!
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>>14018212
Maybe he has become self-destructive.
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>>14018212
>Why is McGillis trying to kill Gaylio when they both want to reform the corrupt Gjallarhorn and Gaelio is one of the four of so Gjallarhorn characters who isn't a corrupt scumbag?
plot requirement.

>Why did McGillis turn Ein into the Graze Ein, when Ein is fanatically loyal to Gaelio, and is now the strongest person in the series? If he wanted Gaelio to die, why imbue his bodyguard with superpowers?
He might want to blame everything that Ein does on Gaelio.

>Why did he cause Carta's death, when Carta is heir to the most respected name in Gjallarhorn and loves him totally? Couldn't he have used her in some better way than having her die?

Daddy was using her so she had to die, because plot required it.

>How is he going to reform the corrupt Gjallarhorn when the success of Tekkadan will basically completely destroy Gjallarhorn's credibility because they will have gotten dunked on across the solar system by a bunch of children?
He is a master planner it doesn't matter if nothing makes sense.

The show is one of the worst written mecha shows in years don't think too hard about any of the characters or the plot.
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>Gjallarhorn isn't supposed to intervene in a nation's politics
>And yet they are intervening with a nation's election by preventing Makanai and his escorts from entering the city
>MS are not allowed to get close to a city
>And yet a Gjallarhorn MS is in a city, wrecking their roads and fucking their power grid with its reactor, at least until Mika came in to fight him.
I'll fucking laugh if Ein-Graze is later pushed out of the city by Mika, and that was used by them to fuck Gjallarhorn over in the talks more because Ein just won't stop trying to fucking get to the city to kill Kudelia and fuck the power grid more with his reactor.
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>>14018212
>when they both want to reform the corrupt Gjallarhorn
Do they? We don't know jack shit about what McGillis wants.
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>>14018236
>And yet they are intervening with a nation's election by preventing Makanai and his escorts from entering the city
He is an exile coming with an army.

>And yet a Gjallarhorn MS is in a city, wrecking their roads and fucking their power grid with its reactor, at least until Mika came in to fight him.
Now both sides have a mobile suit in the city.
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>>14018212
Reforming Gralahonk was a lie. He just wanted to watch the world burn.
>>
At least the Graze Ein is sexy.

>this show is so bad I'm rooting for the expendable cyber-jewtype
>>
Ein is a fucking Dreadnought goddamn.
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>>14018212
>Why is McGillis trying to kill Gaylio when they both want to reform the corrupt Gjallarhorn and Gaelio is one of the four of so Gjallarhorn characters who isn't a corrupt scumbag?
>Why did McGillis turn Ein into the Graze Ein, when Ein is fanatically loyal to Gaelio, and is now the strongest person in the series? If he wanted Gaelio to die, why imbue his bodyguard with superpowers?
He's using them to "prove" that Gjallarhorn is corrupted and bad, I guess.
They would do what he ask/advise them to anyway, and it'll be easy to pin the corruption crime on the head families by using their heirs to do all the terrible things, I guess.
They do belong to Gjallarhorn's top families, if the "top families" leading the group are terrible people, tearing the organisation down would be relatively easy, since you just have to "prove" that the heads of Gjallarhorn are terrible people(and thus the whole organisation as well), as opposed to trying to convince people that Gjallarhorn is corrupted because of the non-relevant people that can be replaced by other people that could easily be as corrupted as them.
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>>14013927
Good call.
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You just know that next episode Mika will kill Ein in his usual stoic no-effort way, nulling any emotional depth or character arc denouement the situation may have had.
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>>14014440
It's not getting a 2nd season. There's no need for one.
>>
Will it become more brutal if Ein was transferred into a gundam than a Graze?
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>>14018212
Is Ein still loyal to Gaelio though? This episode it seemed he didn't give a shit about him anymore.
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>>14018293
Only if it's the Devil Gundam.
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>>14018293
into this? Sure.
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>>14017199
There won't be enough characters left by the end to keep going.
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>>14018246
>He is an exile coming with an army.
If Makanai's confidence in getting re-elected is any indication, I think he's exiled because of his rivals in the politics scene, not because of what he did.
Why would a nation where the people like a certain election candidate exile said candidate if he didn't do anything terrible? If he DID do something terrible that would get him exiled, why would the people vote him back into office if he's running in the election?
The army part, eh, they always been trying to kill these kids and Kudelia, presumably so Kudelia's plans for better shit for Mars would not get passed, and Makanai would approve of her proposal, so they want to stop him so Mars doesn't get better deals(I think?).
It still all boils down to the fact that they are intervening in politics of other nations, especially the talks between Mars and Earth.

>Now both sides have a mobile suit in the city.
And the first one in was a Gjallarhorn MS. They can very easily explain Mika entering the city as them trying to stop Ein(Which is what Mika was doing anyway).
Its kind of like Gjallarhorn trying to make the colony workers go violent before killing them all, they get a justified reason to basically slaughter the workers. The fact that Ein got in first would be like the workers in the colonies getting violent, Tekkadan gets a justification to "break" the rule. By claiming to be on the right side of the law with the evidences backing them up, they can get away with it.
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>>14018338
>>If Makanai's confidence in getting re-elected is any indication, I think he's exiled because of his rivals in the politics scene, not because of what he did.
>Why would a nation where the people like a certain election candidate exile said candidate if he didn't do anything terrible? If he DID do something terrible that would get him exiled, why would the people vote him back into office if he's running in the election?
He seems like the type to do shady things and he wanted to use Kudelia to get elected.

>Its kind of like Gjallarhorn trying to make the colony workers go violent before killing them all, they get a justified reason to basically slaughter the workers.

Colony workers got violent on their own and started looking for weapons on their own. If they had surrendered at that point it would have been a sting operation. They instead opened fire and at that point were valid targets.

>By claiming to be on the right side of the law with the evidences backing them up, they can get away with it.

They had a tank in the city and were attacking the city. The show is just stupid.
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>>14017852
>arial bombardment
>arial
They prefer Times New Roman
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How will Choco completely destroy Gaelio next ep?
>usage of Alaya-Vijnana
>the whole assassination attempt
>subordinate moving a MS into the city
>Carta

I feel bad for Gaelio.
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>>14018212
Chocolate man is basically Dio. He respects them but resents them still for what they are so he sends them out to screw up GJ's reputation even further. He probably doesn't actually care about GJ, he just wants to get revenge against his old man and seize power and lolis for himself.
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>>14017939
No. Fuck off
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>>14017852
Why were the carriers bombarding within sight. Why were they conducting saturation attacks with missiles?
Why didn't they just arrest all the workers for trying to purchase illegal firearms and firing upon them?
Why aren't Tekkadan not treated as international terrorists?
Why hasn't mars just started practicing civil disobedience.
Why does the local government on Mars allow child soldiers?
Why don't ship's main guns do any damage?
How does Mcgillis manage to supply Tekkedan with useful weapons and ammo yet Gjallarhorn only has completely ineffective weapons?
Why would anyone freely vote for a guy who brought an army of child soldiers to their doorstep?
Why would a guy with some of the most influential friends try and use unscrupulous methods to change Gjallarhorn?
Why would anyone try to take on the only world power with 2 mechs and a bunch of child soldiers.
Why would anyone think that starting a war with no army and limited ability to arm themselves would help improve lives?
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>>14018503

>Not blasting the entire area with Comic Sans

MAKE THEM SUFFER
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>>14018598
Because... shut up. That's why.

Good action this week, but man it just doesn't feel earned. Like, this is the finale but it doesn't feel like the cast really did anything to get here.
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>>14018978
>Good action this week, but man it just doesn't feel earned. Like, this is the finale but it doesn't feel like the cast really did anything to get here.

The main plot was pushed aside for most of the series and not much of what did happen was meaningful.
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>>14017588
>dem sexy mech fingers
>>
>killing every single best grill
Fuck you bandai.
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>>14017818
>>14017799
IT'S THE RRRRRRAINMAKER'S FAULT!
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