What the hell were they thinking?

It's the ugly teenage years of the Minovsky Flight Craft system.

>>13995527
>"Can't we get the minovski drive unit any smaller?"
>"No"

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Hades Project.

>>13995527
"Yeah, sure, whatever you want cover artist. We'll never have to animate or make kits of this anyway."

>>13995527
>What the hell were they thinking?
Was it Nagano? I'm like 80% sure Nagano did this. the silly shoulder and calf gubbinz SCREAM that Nagano was involved somewhere.

>>13995575
It looks absolutely nothing like Nagano in either design or aesthetic, especially considering there are a handful of Gundam MS designs that are actually Nagano-influenced like Hyaku Shiki. The entire design screams Zeorymer.

>>13995527
Penelope is ugly
Xi is a e s t h e t i c

>>13995575
>I'm like 80% sure Nagano did this.

Just because there's a design you don't like doesn't mean it was made by Nagano.

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Pen pen is beautiful

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What the hell were they thinking?

>>13995575
>confusing Zeorymer aesthetic with FSS/Gothicmade aesthetic
Then again, I'm not surprised.

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>>13995527

>>13995537
well this guy has a point since... both units were designed by Yasuhiro Moriki, of Zeorymer fame.
(retooled for GGen by kazumi fujita)

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>>13995825

>>13995575
It baffles me that you would confuse a Katoki-drawn mech for something made by Nagano.

It wasn't even designed by Katoki, but you saying Katoki would have you look like much less of an idiot in this context.

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>>13995825
What the hell were they thinking?

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>>13995906
>Deep Striker
Oh my.

>>13995575
It was actually Yasuhiro Moriki.

>>13995622
>>13995827
We've had people on /m/ think Nagano design the Baund Doc and Flag, but this is next-level stupidity.

>>13995906
>What the hell were they thinking?
Get in.
Blow EVERYTHING the fuck up.
Say fuck the Zeeks.
Get out.

>>13996113
>Zeeks.
Sorry, meant fuck radical Titans scum.

>>13996079
Nagano has become a buzzword at this point.

>>13996113
So basically they were inspired by Kou's rampage with the Dendrobium?

>>13996120
If Gothicmade ever comes out on BD, I'm sure its Valvrager equivalent will pop up on /m/ the moment RAWs are uploaded.

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>>13996123
You could say that if not for the fact that 0083 was written after Sentinel. The Dendrobium was supposedly for defensive purposes.

The Deepstriker wasnt actually used though, neither the Zeta Hummingbird which is one of its escort MS.
Imagine; you facing an MS designed to just take a mad dash straight through your defense lines and keep going until it hits whatever the target is. Then it stays there for a bit while your entire defense crumbles and your punitive Titans force is now being bombarded on both sides by this and 3 Zetas of a similar config.

>>13996129
We already have a Nagano shitposter, but he's been lying low for a few months now.

I guess this is a good time as any to ask where I can find Hathaway's Flash translated.

>>13996150
Why would this thing even need escorts? And Hummingbirds are just overkill.

>>13996129
Doesn't even need a Valvrager.
I've seen those Nagano threads. They're pretty good at in-fighting.

>>13995811
Odysseus is damn handsome.

>>13997074
To save energy and ammo so it can fire the everything on the target I guess.

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>>13997299
It can only get worse.

>>13997345
>2014

Oh man, the era of Build Faggots felt like so long ago.

>>13997349
I wasn't even there for that, but I can only assume that the Gunpla Generals were even more hellish than they are now.

>>13997371
They were. It was on /toy/ though. The shitposting got so out-of-hand with elitists, newfags, and off-topic discussion (usually about being NEETs for whatever reason) that everyone moved to /m/. Things were going fine here too until too many tripfags showed up and brought Snapshit with them.

Ironically the /toy/ GPG has returned back to being good now that all the shitters have left.

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>>13997371
Nowadays it's just Snapfag and his image spam and samefagging and people calling him out on it. Back then it was nonstop anonymous shitposting and arguments about the most random stupid shit and noobs refusing to listen, leading to disasters like Red Cliff.

>>13997299
>>13997345
>>13997349
>>13997371
>>13997378
>>13997399
https://desustorage.org/m/thread/13279514/#13303900

I'll just leave this here.

>>13996150
>>13997335

It's literally an Irish beam cannon strapped onto a MS with enough boosters to move it around and has a partial i-field at the front. It's just step above the Hyper Beam Launcher but probably won't do very well against nimble MS.

>>13997599
>his fanbase has some of the most defensive autists I've ever come across.

I want to say he's wrong, but the current FSS thread has people getting buttblasted because they can't agree on what kind of art Nagano is good at.

>>13997640
That is true. Artfags have been the bane of this board for a while, 2beeh.

>>13997640
Not sure if someone saying his art style looks like total shit would be considered part of his "fanbase".

>>13997672
The general assumption is that anyone posting in a thread related to Nagano are his fans.

However, usually it's just butthurt SRWfags letting out steam.

>>13997640

Its not really a Nagano thing. I remember quite a while ago now I posted a thread asking for canonically silver colored mecha, and it turned into a 150+ argument some people were having over whether to call it silver or chrome.

I didn't touch that thing after the first post, I was legitimately shocked it got that bad over such an inconspicuous request but yeah...that's been happening on this board forever.

>>13997681
>However, usually it's just butthurt SRWfags letting out steam.

What do they have against Nagano?

>Penelope, anything other then a great mobile suit design

Take your shit taste elsewhere

>>13997689
Nagano once made a joke statement about how his LED Mirage was invincible and unkillable, and that it could defeat even gods and other dimensions or some other shit.

Since SRWfags are power level whores, this pissed them off so much that they made up a bunch of rumors about how Nagano is afraid of "his robots getting hurt in SRW", and this further escalated until most of them had some kind of weird vendetta against Nagano, and even more wild rumors were spread. It's pretty telling when you hear so much shit about Nagano but can't find a single translated English interview with him online.

>>13995811

Am I wrong for actually loving its pack-less basic frame form?

>>13997672
There were people who said that his individual illustrations were good while his work with manga was lacking, and they were still persecuted for that.

>>13997689
Nothing. He's just spouting shit.

>>13997715

Oh the whole "Nagano thinks he's too good for SRW" thing I completely forgot about that.

That's digging into old shit, I can't believe its still relevant to a whole new generation of shitposters.

>>13997715
7/10 shitposting. Had me at first.

>>13997721
It's not relevant to the fanbase. FSS as a whole isn't really discussed in SRW.
The closest is when people recall the Blood Temple in SRW, but that's probably twice a year at its best and doesn't really go anywhere other than:
>Remember when this happened?
>Yeah.

>>13997720
>they were still persecuted for that.

Nope, it was just a one guy who thought everything Nagano did other than his mecha designs was utter dogshit and that he was in general a terrible artist. Even then there were like only one or two other anons arguing with him. Hardly "persecution", unless the person in question is that insecure.

That wasn't even the big argument in that thread, which revolved around the influence of European comics in manga.

>>13997721
It's still brought up in the SRW threads, so no, people haven't forgotten about it that easily. For whatever reason.

>>13997715
Nigga what? IIRC, in one of the first few SRW they used one of his mechs (I forget which series) that they thought they had the lisence for but actually didn't. No one caught the mistake until the game was actually out. As far as I'm aware that's the only association he's ever had with SRW.

>>13997751
He's just trying to start shit, anon. That much should be obvious.

>>13997750
>It's still brought up in the SRW threads, so no

Hasn't been brought up in years. The topic may as well be bi-annual at best within the fanbase.

>>13997751
Yes. They accidentally used his LED Mirage in the game, which is the mech he claimed could kill everything, and Nagano demanded that the mecha be withdrawn from the game or not be used in further games.

This is where the "Nagano doesn't want his stupid frail robots getting hurt" rumor comes from, compounded with that LED Mirage statement he made. When in reality it was just a licensing error.

It's not talked about as often as it's used to, but in general people who felt the sting of the rumors back then still frequent /m/ and are still pissed at Nagano.

>>13997767
Yeah, to add to that, on the rare cases that Nagano or FSS is brought up, it's usually with the incident mentioned here >>13997751

Which usually just amounts to:
>This happened once.
>Oh yea.

>>13997767
It's been brought up as recently as a few months ago, but the archive was deleted, so I can't post it.

In general, discussions about Nagano have been pretty quiet recently, but back in 2013-14 around the time of the Gothicmade retcons a lot of people went ballistic, and SRW was just salt in a wound.

>>13997772
The Blood Temple was more of a prototype LED Mirage.

And the animosity for Nagano practically exists in either mecha design threads or Nagano threads, where the shitposters roam free.

But people in SRW threads pretty much never bring it up. Last I recall was maybe three years ago, but then that was just a situation of someone asking when FSS will get into SRW and someone responded with "well, you can see the Blood Temple in SRW 4".
This fanbase war you are trying to insight is asinine.

>>13997784
Archive still records all the way back to August of last year, anon.

You might want to try harder than that.

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Kinda off tangent, but apparently according to background material (I have the L-Gaim artbook) and even blatantly seen in pictures like this, parts of the L-Gaim Mk-II were originally the Blood Temple, especially the head. Combined with the Amon-Dul Stack HM to turn it from a shitty transformable concept HM into something insanely powerful.

So in other words, having L-Gaim Mk II fight the Blood Temple on SRW4 made no sense whatsoever cause it's technically the same mech. lol

I know, pointless trivia no one asked for.

Oh yeah, and if the above sounds familiar its because it is the same thing as Junchoon's story in FSS.

>>13997794
>But people in SRW threads pretty much never bring it up

Occasionally they do. Not as in a "we're pissed at Nagano" kind of thing, but it's still brought up every once in a while to remind people that it exists. And just because there's no circlejerk hate going on in those threads doesn't mean that some people still don't feel a ton of animosity towards Nagano specifically because of that reason. Just look at the various /m/ Twitter users if you want to see it.

Regardless, Nagano shitposting has quieted down a LOT in the last couple years, but if it weren't for the SRW and various other rumors, a lot of it wouldn't have started in the first place, and that would mean a lot less material for shitposters to use.

>This fanbase war you are trying to insight is asinine.

Not sure why you would think I'm trying to start one, since I'm just posting facts. Better than letting the rumors still float at least.

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>>13995825
>these two abominations made it into the EXVS
>Virtue still absent

>>13997824
they just don't feel the need to put it back in the game

besides, some people would just cry "lazy faggots" because they don't like them reusing old assets

we actually had people on this board complain about there being too many zakus in EXVSFB even though only two of them have similar 3D models and assets, and all of them have different movesets, abilities, and uses.

>>13997715
>can't find a single translated English interview with him online.

Probably the most infamous one can still be found online, with its ISBN number no less. The one where he compares the Turn-A to the "king's new clothes."
The other, with LED Mirage being unbeatable, I don't think ever had an ISBN attached to it, but most people let it go when Nagano's powerlevel chart was posted and showed how it was all in jest.

>>13997838
>The one where he compares the Turn-A to the "king's new clothes."

That was a single paragraph from the FSS Outline, and the rest of the interview was never posted/translated because the guy who translated it took it off a Tomino fansite, of all things. So we don't anything about what the context of that interview was or what it was even about.

>Nagano's powerlevel chart was posted

Most people aren't even aware that exists and wouldn't recognize any of the characters from it. And LED Mirage was ironically enough super high-up that chart, so it didn't do much to invalidate Nagano's quote.

>>13997802
https://desustorage.org/m/thread/13443932/#13443982

It's still talked about. In an informed manner, but still spoken of. If you could see the threads from 2014 or earlier, it would have looked very different.

>>13997821
> I'm just posting facts

But you aren't. You're posting half-truths. Lies through omission, if you will.

Nagano's comments and apocryphal quotes drew ire, yes. With SRW? No more than any other fanbase. It would be the equivalent to saying "the only people who hate Nagano are Battlemechfags" or "the only people who hate Nagano are Zoidsfags," and likewise going further to say that those respective threads are filled with Naganohaters, by virtue of a connection founded upon loose correlations.

>>13997813
> it is the same thing as Junchoon's story in FSS.
Yeah, Nagano was part of the creative staff (I think even as far as the equivalent to a co-captain of sorts) for L-Gaim, so a lot of L-Gaim ends up being almost a prototypal form of FSS. Certainly shows a lot of neat history, especially when you come across other things like the female silhouette in MK II's jewel.

>>13997871
>And LED Mirage was ironically enough super high-up that chart, so it didn't do much to invalidate Nagano's quote.

And Lachesis was weaker than a bug in that same chart.
It wasn't about invalidating the quote, but setting the tone for it.

>>13997891
>No more than any other fanbase.

What other fanbases has Nagano ever assaulted other than his own and SRW? His own fanbase is practically nonexistent these days anyway here in the west. And the Turn A quote didn't help much but it didn't any more harm to him than Itano's quote about Macross Frontier.

>>13997905
I remember that, but most people who aren't familiar with FSS would have no idea who "Lachesis" even is.

>>13997908
>And the Turn A quote didn't help much but it didn't any more harm to him than Itano's quote about Macross Frontier.

I think the Turn A quote was a VERY big deal for a lot of people on /m/, especially considering its sacred cow status among Gundam fans.

>>13997886
I was in the threads from 2014, and the discussions were still well contained within their select threads. SRW threads weren't all that involved.

Really though, the worst of it was back in, what, 2010 and 2011? The time when the LED Mirage and War God Demonbane shit was being spammed everywhere and people were eating it up.

I do know /jp/ had a huge as hand in copypasting that shit everywhere.

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>>13997929
There are still many Gundam fans who think Nagano drew this picture of Turn A, so I think that counters that. Though on /m/ it's always been a bit more negative, as with any other topic. You can be sure though that whenever LED Mirage gets brought up with Nagano, Turn A will be posted a moment soon after.

>>13997929
>sacred cow status

That a joke, anon? Because it got a sensible chuckle out of me.

>>13997943
>Really though, the worst of it was back in, what, 2010 and 2011? The time when the LED Mirage and War God Demonbane shit was being spammed everywhere and people were eating it up.

I still see it in the archives at the edge of the cutoff point (late 2012 or so ), but you're right in that it's not in the SRW Generals that often. However, it was mentioned in other topics whenever Nagano was brought up quite frequently, often in fierce arguments.

>>13997681
It's not specific to SRWfags, but power level fags in general. Like the types who would try to debate about Saitama vs Demonbane. And while there are a lot of SRWfags like that, a good chunk of /m/ is filled with power level fags from all kinds of fanbases. Gundamfags especially are 10x worse than SRWfags when it comes to power levels because of MUH TURNS.

>>13997821
>/m/ Twitter users

This is a thing?

>>13998001
Yep. A New Translator, Gundroog, Cacophonous, Tom Aznable, and a bunch of others.

Don't get involved.

>>13998016
Oh, and how could I forget TE Spoiler Guy, the one who translated that Nagano Turn A quote and has made himself very clear that he really hates him.

>>13998016
I only know of Cacophonous.

>>13997993
You do know that Gundam is a big part of SRW too, right?

Like, I see your point, but a normal Gundam fan (the one who browses forums and facebook and Gundam Guy and all that shit) doesn't even know who Nagano is. Here on /m/ at least, many people had their first exposure to him from SRW, specifically with L-Gaim and Zeta Gundam. Which is why you see a lot of people who know of Nagano but very few who have actually watched L-Gaim or read FSS.

My point is, the first rumors that spread about Nagano were started by the guys who played SRW and then went onto forums like Mechatalk and the ancient ass rec.anime. Google groups. As it is now, they're not as relevant, but that is how it all began.

>>13997929
>especially considering its sacred cow status among Gundam fans.

Yeah, so sacred that Tomino thought hiring Syd Mead was a mistake and retconed it with G-Reco,

>>13998047
>rec.anime. Google groups.

Oh shiiiiiit, I remember those! I was on the rec.anime.models group quite frequently with my shitty dial-up. Every picture being posted was considered gold because we all had horrible internet, so whenever some new MG or FIX figure was announced it was a collective circlejerk.

A lot of people back then had a strong love for those terrible MSIA figures though, and some were crazy enough to think they were better than the MG line.

>>13998115
I do remember there being a lot of arguments about MSIA and GFF, and everyone always complained about proportions on Bandai kits. Most people there were skilled modelers, but I think most of them have moved one with their lives away from the hobby.

The most memorable part was James Doyle's reviews. His MG Sazabi review is by far the longest and most autistic Gunpla review ever made, and people thought Rrobert184 was bad:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.arts.anime.models/mg$20sazabi$20review/rec.arts.anime.models/1D3X-w48PUY/120DXOa0HwoJ

>>13997837
Fuck those people.

>>13998016
Are those the same faggots who tried to spam Aida in every G-Reco thread?

>>13995906
it looks like a sniping unit to me.

>>13997750
>Nope, it was just a one guy who thought everything Nagano did other than his mecha designs was utter dogshit and that he was in general a terrible artist.

But he is a terrible artist.

>>13998190
Okay.

'guys... what if we put the cockpit on the orbital frame's head!'

'good idea!'

>>13998030
TE Spoiler Guy only translated it when someone didn't believe the original translation by Moonymous, and specifically asked TE to translate it.

Please refrain from talking about things you actually don't know about it.

>>13998540
Moononymous later admitted he purposely made the interview seem more poisonous than it actually was, though.

>>13998739
Unsuprising.
The guy lived to get a rise out of people.

>>13998088

> retconed

The word has two n's as far as I'm aware, and no, he didn't. Sadly (I wish he did personally). Turn-A still exists. Hence the interview he gave regarding where it falls in the timeline. G-Reco didn't retcon anything.

>>13998540
Could have sworn they were the same person. Well, thanks for clearing that up.

Maybe it was TE who translated the LED Mirage quote then?

>>13997716
Considering it's the only tolerable form, no.

>>13999607
No, according to the archives, it was some anon from 2010.

Though I'm certain that quote had been around much longer than that but wasn't recorded in the archives.

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>>13995825
>TFW Someone insults Nightingale.

>>13997750
>the influence of European comics in manga

You mean the delusional frogs who thought their shitty comics would have an influence on anything and that it wasn't from American comics instead?

>>13997640
No, the majority of Nagano/FSS threads are pretty quiet and don't have many posts. Like this one:

>>13998018

Whenever there is a Nagano thread with a big argument, like that art one, 99% of the time it's some raging asshole going in and saying "Nagano is total SHIT because XXX", which is the same as going into a Super Robot thread and proclaiming "Obari is total SHIT because XXX".

>>13999743

Only SRWfags have that huge hard on for Obari though. Most SRfags know that he's not that good, which is true.

>>13999761
I don't know why you keep trying to start shit with SRW.
Did it hurt you or something?

>>13999841

What are you even talking about? I'm simply correcting that one anons statement so that it's true.

>>13999849
You're pretty bad at feigning ignorance, anon.
If you want to bait people, you have to be better than this.

>>13999921

Again, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Assuming that I'm someone else only makes you look stupid.

>>13995527
>implying you have never fapped to it
I'm not the only one right...

>>13999929
It's because you used "SRWfag", so he assumed you were the other anon, even though SRWfag is one of the most common buzzwords on /m/.

>>13999967
(insert word)fag may as well be a staple of the website. No one is any more or less popular than the other.

>>13999967
Everything is a buzzword, anon. Get with the times.

>>13999997
If there is one thing this board has destroyed, it's the notion of a proper argument.

>>14000016
>a proper argument
>on 4chan
Anon there's jokes then there's this.

>>13999761
I mean, is there any other Super Robot designer that /m/ actually likes or even knows of? Okawara fits the bill but people shit on him nonstop, and Nagai/Ishikawa aren't really celebrated for their mecha design here.

>>13999983
This is your reminder that the goons forced that in 2004.

>>14000093
I'm telling you, anon. it's true.
There were two people talking - not an insult to be found.
I think I even saw a citation or two.
It was horrifying.

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>>13998137
>https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.arts.anime.models/mg$20sazabi$20review/rec.arts.anime.models/1D3X-w48PUY/120DXOa0HwoJ

>Me: "Oh it's not that bad"
>Clicks "View Trimmed Content"
>mfw

>>14000110
/m/, generally speaking, has a decently sized lexicon when it comes to mechanical designers.
I'd venture that most have, at some point, run across Gears Online's Designers page.

But it's sorta weird. It feels like /m/ talking about mechanical designers is a slightly trendy thing. Someone like Ebikawa will be treated as a king for all of two weeks until they just seemingly push his name to the back of his mind. Same with the likes of Okawara, Katoki, Obari, Koboyashi, Izubuchi, and so-on. They'll be popular for two weeks to a month, sometimes two months even, but then they'll just fade into the obscurity of the public's lexicon. Yanase Takayuki will probably be the next in this pattern.
It's really in the select mechanical design threads that you'll actually find people who know their shit.

>>13997599
>https://desustorage.org/m/thread/13279514/#13303900

>Speaking of Build Fighters, it's my favorite Gundam series yet, because unlike most Gundam series, it doesn't come with any stupid political bullshit and "muh horrors of war". Fight me, faggots.

He's totally right about this, you know.

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>>14000226
Maybe so, but this poll is a pretty good indicator of /m/'s tastes. It's very consistent with what we've seen throughout the board, at least.

>>14000259
I've seen Okawara get shat on more than any mecha designer out there, so I have to question the validity of that poll.

>>14000259
Designer or artist? That's important.

>>13999983
>No one is any more or less popular than the other.
Gundam is more popular on the whole

>>14000284
Although Okawara does get shit on a lot around here, >>14000295 raises a good point. The biggest catalyst of criticism when it comes to him is his lineart (which I'm also not particularly fond of), rather than his actual designs.

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>>14000386
No, I think Okawara is legitimately one of the worst designers around. He's had a few gems, but the majority of his shit is absolute turds, art and design-wise. His high point was the mid 90's.

>>14000406
>OYW designs

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>>14000458
What of them?

>>14000259
>Obari that high
>Ebikawa that high
>Kawamori, Nagano and Kobayashi that low
>Nagai
Also, if Syd Mead was there, then why not add other western designers, too?

>>14000661
What's wrong with Nagai being there? I'm pretty sure Mead is the only western designer there due to his direct relation to the most important /m/ series on this board.

>>14000482

>not loving the zakrello

>>14000685
>the most important /m/ series on this board.
By which I mean Gundam as whole, not just Turn A, in case that wasn't obvious enough.

>>14000661
Because Syd Mead is the only professional/well-known western mechanical designer than explicitly draws giant robots for Japanese cartoons?

Gee, I dunno, Anon.

>>14000661
What do you expect from a board of Gundamfags and SRWfags?

>>14000721
What do you expect when Syd Mead is literally the only non-Japanese guy to have one of his designs star in an anime?

Oh, wait, let me argue with you in the manner in which you are accustomed: HURDUR UR A MEADFAG GO BACK TO TUMBLR

>>14000661
>>Ebikawa that high

Fuck you, Ebikawa is fantastic.

>>13998739
No I didn't dumbfuck

>>13998030
I love Nagano and you're a cocksucking faggot

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>>14000871
>No I didn't dumbfuck

Dumb motherfucker.

>Okay, looking through the source text, I did decorate Nagano's a bit.

https://desustorage.org/m/thread/5645723/#5645804

>>14000871
Also, since you "love Nagano" so much, where the fuck is the rest of that interview? Why didn't you bother to translate it? Why translate the -only- part where he's shitting on Turn A?

You're every bit as much of a shit as those Nagano shitposters.

Nagano is a hack. We know this. Time just gives us more evidence. He basically stole ideas from other writers and artists wholesale on L-Gaim to create Five Star Stories for a start, because he was unsatisfied with what he was allowed do with L-Gaim. He insulted Syd Mead because he doesn't like the aesthetics of Syd's Turn-A. He made a statement that LED Mirage, one of the units in Five Star Stories is the strongest mech ever - that it can't be hurt by anything in any universe, and that it's guns can destroy anything, ever - despite never appearing to be that strong on paper - because he doesn't like the idea of his stuff losing to other stuff like an 8 year old child. No-one wants to help him with Gothicmade by all accounts because he's such an asshole.

I like the look of some of the Mortarr Heads he's done, but many appear too spindly for their own good. The Nahatgall's head is pretty cool, but the unit itself looks pointlessly obese and ugly. He's not that great a designer really, and I'm just starting to pity him at this stage. Gothicmade only further proved this.

"What do you think of Turn A, as a designer?"

Mamoru Nagano: "Ah, it's shit. Write this down. Why didn't anyone say that to Tomino? It's the king's new clothes. It's just that nobody dared to say it to him. And then all those stupid fans and the people in the industry went 'if you take a good look it's not so bad', but they're just in denial. Anyone who looks at it, their first response is 'what the fuck is this shit'. 'this isn't right', 'this isn't a fucking Gundam'."

>>14000910
"What do you think of Turn A, as a designer?"

>Mamoru Nagano: "Ah, it's shit. Write this down. Why didn't anyone say that to Tomino? It's the king's new clothes. It's just that nobody dared to say it to him. And then all those stupid fans and the people in the industry went 'if you take a good look it's not so bad', but they're just in denial. Anyone who looks at it, their first response is 'what the fuck is this shit'. 'this isn't right', 'this isn't a fucking Gundam'."

>Source is Five Star Stories Outline, ISBN 9784048534635.

"Its shit"

/m/ead fag status:
[]Not told
[x]Told
[x]Fucking Told

>>14000960
>it's objectively shit and anybody who says otherwise is in denial

Sounds like he belongs on 4chan

>>14000871
Full of shit as usual, Moonymous.

>>13996989
Make a pilgrimage to the 1/1 scale Gundam in Japan, sacrifice all your model kits on a modeling mat altar there and pray Deacon or Nozaku pick it up eventually.

>>14001022
If he grew up in the west he probably would post here.

>>14000871
>>14000945
>>14000950
wew

>>14000960
>“That thing that looks like a Gundam in your hand, along with that strange articulated double-knee joint is by no means attractive to me, nor am I at all impressed by it. I feel a sense of revulsion for it, in fact.

>I’m sure in short time there will be an increase in people in Akihabara making these strange yoga-posing snapfit kits. It was the same when everyone started building those piss-easy Master Grades, and when it became Real Grades – I’m fed up with it.”

>“It may seem like I am ignoring your human rights to say this, but you can’t research any of that. Why? Because you have no way of knowing what it’s like to be gluing together a pose, sculpting with Pla-plate and putty, or having empathy with the men who now have lung cancer due to lacquer fumes and toxic adhesives, covered in nubs and resin dust as they labour with their sandpaper.

>You go out into the plastic model shop without enriching your imagination. You are merely grasping the Whatever-Grade as a snapfit toy you use to stroke yourself.

>You jump at the newest Gundam kits, and all you do is relish the pride in owning one as some consumer without putting in any effort. You must not become a consumer. You must become someone that creates.”

-Mamoru Nagano, "Ode to Bandai", ISBN 9784048123456

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>>14001475
Fucking based.

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>>14001475
Wow, what a faggot.

>>14000960
>Nagano
>in charge of deciding the 'what the fuck is this shit' designs

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>>14001475
>mfw there are people who will fall for this

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>>14001803
Shut up Colonel Sanders, no one asked for you opinion.

>>14001498
sauce? iqdb and google turn up nothing

>>13996113
>get out
That's gonna be a hard sell for me

>>14001838
Idiot, why would you post that? Why would you interrupt our meming?

>>14001842
>meming

Not him and not sure what was posted, but please leave.

>>14000960
Put your trip back on, Moonfag.

>>13995527
They weren't

>>13997837
when they should be complaining about the overabundance of MK II's

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>>14000259
>kawamori that low
I feel disgusted.

>>13995906
Looks like a lot of guns and weapons on a bunch of thrusters, makes enough sense to me even if it looks odd.

>>13997630
It's not made for MS combat, probably. That looks like it's meant to be an anti-fortress (or anti-battleship at least) weapon, and it would work because it's a bunch of guns and thrusters and since it's space you can just long range snipe shit.

>>13997751
I mean, technically the Hyaku Shiki and L-Gaim get in, and those are his designs, so he gets in through that. But you're basically right.

>>14002949

I feel more disgusted by your image.

>>14002949
>pedophile phantasy xiv avatar
yeah im disgusted too

>>13997837
Bit that's still a fair point since there are literally no GMs/guntaks/gun cannons.

Blue Destiny doesn't count.

I don't hate zeon grunts/customs but I really wanted to see more regular dudes piloting custom GMs/gun cannons while we get mocked since those units are in the game (most FB missions are filled with unplayable units).

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>>14000406
This. Okawara was a GOD in the mid 90's

Katoki was still better.

>>14001828
It's from Sansha Mendan

>>13999962
Nah. I love the design too.
There's just something charming about it. Like in an early 20th Century Aviation way.