This was pretty good. Is the second season just as good?

Better characters but not as funny.

>>13990951
Not really, the new cast are a bunch of insufferable bitches who don't really grow, the only worthwhile fight is the Tryon 3 fight, and even that feels weak once it hits the end.

Best if you just ignore Try.

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>>13990956
>Better characters

watch it for the action and your set

also prepare for the GBF shit post team any second now

>>13990951
>Is the second season just as good?

No. /thread

>>13990951
no
everything you liked in this first season?
got butchered in try, don't even bother

There are a select few good fights/moments, but it's not really worth watching for such meager yields

It lacks a lot of what made the first season what it is, I think the soundtrack is the only thing that isn't strictly worse overall

If you really want more gunpla action, maybe to hype up some model kit you've got your eyes on from it, give it a go

Otherwise just call it quits

>>13990951
is this like 480p

>>13990951
Nope. Fucking great tragedy of our age.

it's just a season full of regrets
awesome ideas butchered because it was rushed and the ones who did it didn't know shit about gundam

>>13990951
The first episode is pretty good, but it all falls apart after that
Just watch that and wonder what could have been if they kept it up like that

>>13990951

What second season?

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>>13990951
Just ignore Try. It's garbage.

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>>13990951
It's not. Highlights are there, but they don't hit the same highs as Build Fighters, like the pic you posted.

Some decent Gunpla came out of it, at least.

Just finished rewatching this. Man it was so great. For a giant advert it really did get everything right.
All the little nods and references. It's pure fanservice played right.

So when does someone model an MG pilot to climb out of his gunpla wreck just like Dozle?

>>13990951
>This was pretty good.
No, no it wasn't.

>>13992239
>My subjective opinion is better than yours

>>13990951
They kneecap themselves by putting a bunch of interesting characters in early, but knocking them out of the game, and near all relevance, by episode 9. The rest of the time gets spent with a bunch of rivals with no personality. There's a few good fights, watch it if you've got nothing else to do but there's plenty better.

>>13994352
The rivalry build up was handled so bad. I would have preferred to see Try-on 3 vs Lucas.

>>13990951
No, but it's an entertaining enough ride. Moreso if you were there there watching /m/ lose its shit week after week.

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It is OP, Try is just as good as the original season.

Good characters, good plot and very good gunpla designs.

Just ignore the people who think its bad, they're probably the same people who thinks Zeta is good.

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>>13994398
Zeta is good you uncultured swine.

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>>13994398
>Try is good.
but that is a flat out lie

>>13994398
>She never wore the suimsuit.

BF
>brought more people into gunpla
BFT
>brought more waifufags into /m/

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>>13994402
It's not.

>>13994409
But it is good Fllay.

>>13994410
The outfit was alright, but I preferred her casual look.

>>13994398
>boring characters that don't grow
>main character's only true defining characteristic is JEGAN HOUR EWE
>best rival characters were squandered in the first 10 episodes and serve as exposition spewers while the rest of the rivals somehow manage to be even more flat than the main trio
>love triangle out of nowhere with loli Aila and spats girl
>tryon 3 basically the only really interesting design to come out of the series
Yeah, nah.

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>>13994422
please don't give me a headache. no it's not

I could talk about gunpla designs, undeveloped characters or fight choreography. These are all valid points of criticism for Try.

But I'm going to raise a point I see rarely addressed - the major hypocrisy of its writing. Unlike the first season which felt mostly genuine and true to itself, GBF Try preaches one thing but practices another all the fucking time:

Team Celestial Being is supposed to play the role of noble rivals who believe in a fair fight and that gunpla is imagination, but they're arrogant assholes in scrubby "top meta" level Exia knockoffs who look down on everyone who fails to live up to their perceived skill level.

Yuuma was traumatized when Adou Saga beat up and brutalized his gunpla in a fight years ago - yet when Try Fighters' upgrades roll out, they violently brutalize the opposing no-name team themselves, dealing far more damage than necessary to take out an inferior foe just to look cool. All while heroic music plays.

When Fumina used Winning Gundam at first, she was sacrificing personal performance for the sake of the team being stronger overall and it was presented as a Good Thing. But later when she sparred with Lady Meijin, she was chewed out for not fighting herself - apparently now being a support is bad and all that matters is that you play the frontline combatant role. So, which one is it? Was her former playing support good or bad, you can't have both!

When the triplets' gunpla combined into a dragon, it was treated as an evil villainous move, with shocked reactions from the audience and Mirai looking scared. But combining is all it did. The brothers didn't break any rules, it's just that they are opposing the main team so they are automatically bad.

>>13994402
You are wrong
>>13994398
You are also wrong

>>13992139
This scene is pretty cringe-y in retrospect since it's a mid-20 year old man talking to a toy.

>>13994448
I liked how people still cheered for the Renato brothers in GBF.

>>13994448
That's probably because it's a blatant cash grab aimed at 7 year olds while the first season was more of a nostalgic celebration of a hobby loved by it's creators made for long-time fans of the gundam franchise. You pretty much hit the nail on the head when it comes to the writing though. About the only scenes I could feel the animators were having fun animating where the fights involving Tryon 3. But even then they managed to screw it up by immediately having it job in it's second fight. BFT was an entire season's worth of wasted potential.

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>>13990951
Sadly no

Gyanko was the only good thing about Try

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>>13994467
>not liking obari gundam
But yeah, Try was shit.

>>13994463
It fell apart with them deciding that Sekai be the MC, as opposed to having it BE Fumina's story. In BF, there was no doubt that it was Sei that had the main focus, even if Reiji was sorta 1b. It was like Yugi/Atem. Come Try, we completely ignored the builder and just focused on the fighter. A big sign of how the Builders were shafted in Try was Yuuma.

Are we to believe that this guy is Sei's protege? This guy has no creativity whatsoever. Hell, If we compare Kamiki and Try Burning, it stands out as a sour note to what kind of level Yuuma was in.

>>13994448
...none of that even occurred to me, but you're totally right.

Try is Roman Reigns.

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>>13994425
>>13994438
>>13994449
Stay wrong.

>>13994473
Exactly. Little to no attention was being paid to actual building outside of that one episode where they got together to build their upgrades or when boxer guy used his kid brother's shitty snap build, but even then that was glossed over. Compare it to season one where the characters note that Sei reinforced the barrel of his rifle with metal to allow it to fire stronger blasts, or the chobham armor shield made with several layers of plastic to give it better durability.

Yuuma's pretty much in the same boat as Sei when he started out, keeping himself restrained to muh UC era and not budging from there. Sei at least learned from the class prez that it's up to him to build whatever the fuck gunpla he wants and the kicker is that Yuuma has been exposed to stuff that's even more outlandish than just stuffing the inside of the model with cotton. The Kamiki was quite lazily designed imo, considering it's just the Burning with his name plastered on it's shoulder with a short sword.

>>13994490
Nice rebuttal. Stay deluded.

>>13994491
but it still looks more creative than anything Yuuma has done. And comparing it to the Try Burning, it's no contest.

>>13994459
Where do you think you are?

>>13994448
Like the other anon said, I never thought about all of that stuff. But you're absolutely right.

>>13994501
I'm not sure how giving your gunpla one extra weapon and slapping your name on it counts as creativity though. Yuuma isn't the creative genius that is Minato but that's probably because he's more of a lorefag than he is about going nuts and building something truly interesting.

>>13994448
>Team Celestial Being is supposed to play the role of noble rivals who believe in a fair fight and that gunpla is imagination, but they're arrogant assholes in scrubby "top meta" level Exia knockoffs who look down on everyone who fails to live up to their perceived skill level.

Blame Allan. If Yuuki was drilling them, they would've made non-GN faggotry.

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>>13994494
Ignored.

>>13994521
k

>>13994519
Well, Kamiki puts Try Burning to shame, when you really put them side-by-side.

>>13994525
I dunno, it's my opinion but they're both uninspired. One's ostensibly made for functionality and the other just screams "I'm built by an egotistical ten year old".

>>13994527
well, Sekai (even with Shia's help) is still a beginner.

>>13994530
But it's uninspired, which is the point. Yuuma could build something better if he put his mind to it and crawled out from under the rock that is the UC timeline, but Kamiki was never truly interested in the hobby outside of how it let him punch things until at the very end, and even then considering martial arts is his true passion he likely wouldn't deviate from there either.

>>13994467
>liking fat meme girl

>>13992239

This. It pandered well to Gundam enthusiasts, but it was mediocre.

>>13994520
tfw Allan didn't build all of them full armour neo-zeongs.

Try got do disappointing, we couldn't even hold a general for it like the GBF days. Like there was an attempt but people stopped giving a shit. Compared to Reco anyway

>>13994586
or collages. I tried inviting everyone to make one for the Star Winning,but everyone got pissed off by that time.

>>13994586

It didn't help that the fights were pretty lazy and uninspired, especially compared to every Meijin fight from GBF.

[spoilers]That said, if there's a season 2 I'm sure I'll still watch it. [/spoilers]

>>13994777
This season's Meijin mech design was quite boring too. Just a suit painted red with nothing to really set it apart other than HURR DURR RED MEANS CHAR.

>>13994782

>IT'S A GUNDAM, BUT IT'S RED. GET IT?

I miss the Kampfer Amazing.

>>13994782
The design is from Gunpla Kyoshiro.

Will we ever get another Build Fighters?
I did enjoy season 1, and I loved the HGBC/BF kits that were released for both seasons.

Or is Bandai burnt out on Try or any Gundam getting 2 seasons and a pre-OVA enough?

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>>13994398

>>13994818
It's still just a boring suit painted red though.

its boring

cameos were good but thats it

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>>13994856

>>13994459
In the context of the show Gunpla is a proper sport
The guy didn't just build that toy, he carefully planned it out and painted it to perfection. It's more like a work of art.

>Reiji turned into a Gunpla nerd over the course of the series and learned how to build Gunpla so he could understand Sei's feelings towards being a Builder
>Sekai used Gunpla to hone his martial arts and learned how to build Gunpla so his could punch harder

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>>13994491
>The Kamiki was quite lazily designed imo, considering it's just the Burning with his name plastered on it's shoulder with a short sword.
It's acutally very different.

>>13990994
The soundtrack as a separate music piece is better than S1. But the music direction is so shit it doesn't even matter.

Shit characters
Almost all fights are shit.
Added horrible things to the lore that absolutely breaks it and makes what was essentially a cash-cow in the making into a collosal fuck up and joke.
Spend way too much time pushing a character that we are supposed to think is a young teen male but comes off as a beyond generic 8 year old shounen lead character for a knock off pokemon cartoon/commercial.
All of the suits were uninspired trash for the most part with a few being interesting but being used horribly or just thrown out because they weren't the mc.

This show could have been a real like...digimon/pokemon/ tier money maker.
But they fucked it up too much.
And no amount of fumina porn or innocent chubby pigtailed asian girl getting blacked so she could access to yajima tier tech to upgrade her toy doujins are worth it.

The show was so bad that they can't even have a third unrelated season because it pissed off the orignal fanbase and added terrible canon stuff that just ruins it all.

>>13998573
this is what I was talking about. Yuuma looks like an amateur compared to what Sekai was able to accomplish in the end.

>>13998589
They made Allied Force look bad.

>>13998689
You know your anime is shit when you got hype incarnate like this and the fights still managed to look bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkCL6B7yew

They had literally one job.
Make a show about Gunpla Police fighting the Gunpla Syndicate world wide.

>>13990951
Yes.
The second season is quite short though.
Let me list the episodes
>The Boy Who Calls The Wind
>Team Up, Try Fighters!
>G-MUSE
>Straight-Assembly Shimon
>Worthy Rivals
>Fateful Reunion
>Follow Your Heart
>Our Gunpla

Also I guess the one good thing to come from Try was the fact Sugita finally got to pilot a gundam.

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Has any character ever carried a series as hard as Sakai fucking Minato?
Seriously, this guy carried everything the original stood for inside him. He can feel the heart of the gunpla. He's a significantly better protege of Sei than Yuuma is despite not being a protege of Sei.

>>13999080
And he ended up getting BTFO by Meijin at the end for breaking the rules despite being absolutely based and original. Even if it was gunpla bait.

>>13999108
I couldn't stand how apparantly he was being a cheating douche bag who is ruining the spirit of Gunpla.
Also worst part of Try was running out of particle bullshit.

>>13999136
iirc it wasn't the spirit as much as breaking the rules. You have to acknowledge and get permission from someone if you're using their face, just like you do in real life. He still should have won though, Meijin should have given him honorable mention, not dishonorable DQ.

>>13999136
And it was used twice on both the cool guys, Minato and Crossbone dude

>>13994520
If Yuuki was drilling them they'd be Zeon wankers insteas.
...i guess that is better, actually.

>>13999080
Minato is the Once and Future Gunpla Builder.

>>13998573
How is it the first model is the best looking? Sei managed to make the final Build Strike look better than the original.

>>13999160
that just meant Yuuma won by default.

>>13999208
Because Yuuma is a goddamn idiot devoid of actual creativity.

>>13999237
You really dislike Yuuma, huh?

>>13999243
the guy is fucking Sei's protege. He should be at least be able to do something that's surprising.

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Best thing to come out of GBFT.

>>13999243

I don't know. Lightning Full Bernan looks incredibly standard.

Burning/Try Burning is at least the martial arts unit. Star Winning has its support gimmicks. I don't see how the plot is going to be affected in any major manner if they took out the Lightning/Lightning Full Burnen and replaced it with a stock ReZEL/ZII/Zeta Plus/any other pack-heavy non-transforming unit; Star Winning doesn't even shed parts for it, they go to its weapons. Sekai gets a fist fitted for Try Burning, but any unit Yuuma can build could use Star Winning's support weapons for him. All of its plus points are all internal and don't show themselves easily.

When the other builder comparable is a cackling madman like Minato, it kind of puts Yuuma in a bad light. Heck, Fumina far outshines him in the creativity department, seeing as she could have just piled support parts on her GM cardigan as a mule unit instead of working from zero to get the Winning.

The finale build tournament should have been Yuuma making something even more outlandish to show that his creativity is just as good as Sakai's, instead of showing the viewers that standard is his only show.

If you have autism you will hate it.

>>13999080
Never forget that after the Tryon 3 fight half the comments were "the bad guys won"

>>13999080
>muh autism
That guy was a huge unlikable faggot. You retards only like him because of Tryon.
>show intended for kids
>attracts the most autists

>>13999368
Oh yeah, didnt 2ch get hyper butthurt over team Try shooting during the combination sequence?

>>13999265
I still want a hokey toy of Tryon 3 like that one on Gundamguy, yanno. that one that looks like an 80s/90s kids toy rather than a proper model?

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>"Hey /m/... lets build some gunpla..."

>>13999208

The first model has a clean, iconic design with a strong color scheme. Every subsequent redesign just adds extra little bits in a way that clutters without significantly changing, apart from adding a sword at the very end.

>>13994459
Actually a lot of that is a throwback to Wing itself, talking to the suits was a pretty common thing (especially with Heero/Wing Zero) and the final shot with the eyes lit up like that was a direct redraw of part of the Wing opening theme (right at about 4 seconds in).

So no it wasn't actually cringe at all, it was an homage.

>>13999954

A homage doesn't make it good, just like the Aila subplot's homage to cyber-newtypes. References and pandering is what drives this cult around GBF when it's just a juvenile sports anime with the occasional good action scene. Why does their nose turn up at Try but they fellate GBF?

>>14000174
>juvenile anime with the occasional good action scene.

Good job describing this entire board.

>>14000174
>what is execution

>>14000174
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14000196

Better than Try's, but that's not saying much. It's mediocre at its best.

>>14000335

Never said I disliked it, retard. Circlejerking is not a requisite for enjoying something.

>>13990951
Tryon 3 was the best thing to come out of season 2 and then Sunrise/Bandai took a giant shit all over it.

>>14000347
Disagree. Nobody thinks it's perfect but it's a fun sports anime that knows how Gundam fans think and appeals to that. That's all.

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>There will never be a third season that never takes all the best parts from season 1 and the few good parts from season 2 and combine them into the perfect show

Even Sekai could probably be fixed if they put a better writer behind him, shame it will never happen.

>>13991972
Wait, are there more of these Kira/shinn converted photos?

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>>14000356
Never forget

>>14002387
Q U A L I T Y
U
A
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God damn GBF had an amazing OST.

>>14002714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whhj7q2Rmmk

the absolute best

PLEASE SET YOUR GP BASE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofevEF0JO4

BEGINNING PLAVSKY PARTICLE DISPERSAL
FIELD 2, COLONY
PLEASE SET YOUR GUNPLA

What gunpla will it be /m/?

>>14002719
>off key
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>14002728
pic

>>14002749
Actual no-shitty-pitching in the description

>>14002757
Oh fuck its you again
>Propel self through space with main gun

>>13999428
It doesn't help that Sekai talks about how he wants a fun clean fight and then does that.

>>14002807
At least Sekai got fucking rekt in that episode. That was a highlight.

>>14002874
>It takes like 20+ episodes for people to figure out the way to stop him is attacking the hips.

>>14002900
that's because Minato is GOAT.

Whatever happened to Mao during GBFT? We get scenes of the dojo but we don't see any sign of Mao at all.

>>14002925
I guess he graduated and moved somewhere else. It always irked me that Team Try wasn't participating in the world tournament, but just a Japan national instead. Really lowered the stakes, and I was kind of hoping to see Sei fight again too at the end.

Or Reiji and Aila to finally reappear again.

>>13994448
Not gonna mention how absolutely retarded assimilation is and how it completely goes against what Ral said in the previous season, about how they can take it seriously because there aren't any real stakes involved?

And despite how it's only sekai that supposedly has this bullshit and unnecessary power-up other characters reel back from hits constantly as if they're in the mech itself. Just something else that bothered the shit out of me when I was watching. If they did it in season one they definitely didn't do as much. What I'm talking about is readily apparent in the Tryon-3 episode.

>>14000174
Gundam Build Fighters had likeable characters, solid writing, great fight choreography, and a wide-variety of suits to represent almost every gundam franchise.
Try had the exact opposite of that. Unlikeable characters outside of one, shitty writing and fight choreography, and all of the suits were overly customized shit that had barely any ties to any other gundam franchise. It was mostly just 00 wanking with the team piloting said 00 suits just shitting on everyone with no effort. You can tell the writer of season 2 of 00 had involvement with this show. It's soulless.
GBF has a soul. You can tell there was effort put in to make it more then just the generic shonen try was. Fellini feeling sentimental about his kit he's had his entire life is like faulting loran for freaking out about losing his fish. He was going to have it self-destruct, which probably meant it wouldn't be able to be repaired in any shape or form. But you take me as the type that's never had some sort of item you've kept with you for most of your life that you'd feel genuinely sad about losing. Not even a pet, or a friend. If you can't understand that the feniche was fellini's partner and friend, despite being a model kit, then you should probably just get the fuck off the board.

>>14003028
The part about the self destruct was from the other episode where he fights off against aila, but the point still stands is that fellini giving a shit about his kit is extremely understandable, even more so in the GBF universe, before that one point gets attacked for misremembering something at 3 in the morning.

>>14002925
Japan hates Mao, so he didn't appear.

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>>13999265

>>14002958
What really made no sense is that surely Lukas should be kicking ass in the world tournament. Not having to be held back by two other people.

>>13999427
>That guy was a huge unlikable faggot
Go on, elaborate, so we can know exactly how much of an idiot you are.

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>>14002288
Just one more, sorry, I didn't have that much inspiration in me when I was making those.

>>14003036
That kind of sucks. I thought he was okay.
Also it felt like really at the end of the day he was still the better builder.

>>14003053
That one is amazing I love it.

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The GBFT generals were often short and far between, but one from the tail end of the series speculated on why Sei hadn't appeared, and came to the conclusion that he had died of either Plavsky Particle poisoning, or huffing to much glue and spray paint.

>>14003064
>but one from the tail end of the series speculated on why Sei hadn't appeared
Doesn't he show up for a few scenes in try although we see very little (about one frame or so) of him? There was also that one off-screen mailing of parts.

>>14003069
The lower half of his face was in ep 24 I think.

>>13999356

The Lightning FB is a fucking gorgeous HG model though. When I built it I fell in love, and I've built odd kits now, HG and RG only as MG are too big.

>>13990951
Second season is the worst show after Seed Destiny and IBO.

The protagonists are all Mary Sues.

>>14003070
He was also in the preview of Try along with China.

>>14003075

It's not like I dislike the Lightning FB. Unlike the Star Winning and the Try Burning, it looks like it can easily fit into any one of the Gundam timelines.

It's just that thanks to its other partners and opponents, it looks very... normal. I half-expected him to deploy incoms or bring out a flying shield support unit - or even have the Lightning Weapons Pack turn into docking armor - a few times during Try, but nope. Even the clusterfuck of special weapon options that is Gundam TheEnd feels more "personalized" than the Lightning/Lightning Full Burnen.

They may have intended it during planning, but, for me, at least, I feel that this casts a negative light over Yuuma, especially as a builder; considering that S1 had some very personal customs and his team members'/rivals' Gunpla at least equal or even surpass S1's personal customs in that aspect (granted, Sekai didn't build his, but the Build Burning is still a unique piece of work).

To describe it in physical terms, Yuuma is the guy who'd excel working for Bandai to do their MSV dioramas. Yes, it's very good-looking, but you won't see Hercules Gundam vs Medusa Zam-Zeong out of him anytime soon. Fumina and Minato are the people whose blogsites you'd watch for unexpected modified/scratch builds.

>>14003141
Minato's blogsite would be glorious.

>>13990960
Tryon 3 was too good for Bft

>>13999625
I hated how much of an insufferable bitch she was
it's like they tried to do everything in their power to make her 'cute' but it failed. Dvery time she said something like "oh your gunpla is crying" or some shit i just wanted to punch her in the face

I didn't like TRY because there wasn't enough flamenco music

>>14003223
this.

>>14003223
But we got SUPAROBO instead of Flamenco....

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no

>>14003285
Powered Jim Jumper was pretty great. It looked like something the builder had put a lot of thought into, carefully balancing the weapons and armor to get a unit that could fight well at any range but was still decently fast. Which is exactly what you'd expect Fumina to do if she was carrying the club by herself.

>>13998689
>>13998729
At...at least the music was good. Can't be all negativity about try.

It still sucks of course.

>>14003285
>somebody saved my image
I'll have to make a better version sometime.

>>14003195
Surprisingly, Adou is the only enjoyable character out of the trio. He's probably the only one playing for fun in Try besides Minato.

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>>14003323
>playing for fun
>Embodies "GIT GUD"
>Doesn't even build his own gunpla

Saga was a faggot like the rest of gunpla academy. The only way he could be at all sympathetic is if Yuuma started mocking his career-ending injury at the end. Speaking of which, how much of a pussy do you have to be to break your fist by punching a wall?

>>14003195
I never really liked her to begin with, but once we learned of Build Burning's origin, and that the gunpla was one of Sei's painful memories of Reiji, it became extremely apparent that she's completely bullshitting everything she says about the suit. And Sekai eats that shit up because he's an idiot.

>>13994473
GBFT should've totally been Fumina's story. She was the one with the dream to win the championship, was team captain and kept her moron teammates in line, and repeatedly carried the team.

Yet she gets background focus, got sucked into the dumb Sekai love triangle, and didn't even get to fight Lady Kawaguchi properly again herself at the end. She should've been the one in the climactic final struggle, not Sekai.

>>14003195
My biggest gripe with her was when she was introduced she did the whole "your gunpla is crying" and I thought maybe she was some kind of newtype and things would get interesting with gunpla souls or some such.

Nope. Literally all she is is just a good builder.

Why couldn't Tryhards have a fight as fun as this? How could it go so wrong
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1aej1m_gundam-build-fighters-star-build-strik-gundam-vs-gundam-wing-fenice_shortfilms

>>14003452
What does she say about the suit again?

I don't understand why people would hate Shia. She's practically nonexistent anyway.

>>14003427
Wasn't his hand injury because of carpal tunnel from his maximum APM funnels?

>>14003507
Because in a series of wasted character potential she's one of the worst.
Her whole introduction is a giant "she's a newtype!" flag and then she proceeds to do all of nothing aside from joining the harem.
Her suit gets put on a pedestal as a "perfect build" but isn't very impressive outside of that introductory match. Also she gets shoved into the rival position for Fumina for practically no reason other than "she's on the academy team and those other two guys are the rivals of the other MCs"

>>14003522
Yep, ye olde sports injury.

>>14003507
She says it's "crying", since Sekai wasn't taking care of it, and calls it "beautiful" despite it not being built by Sekai, not being meant for him, and Sekai just using it as a means to an end.

If she recognized the true nature of the suit she might be a little more sympathetic, but she didn't, and she's a self-important idiot.

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>>13998660
Are you fucking serious? Yuumas Lightning Gundam was originally a RE-GZ. Look at a picture of a RE-GZ and then the Lightning. There's a lot of skill in how the Lightning was made, especially with how shitty the RE-GZ kit is. Just because Yuuma didn't originally start out with a OOB RE-GZ and make it into the Lightning does not mean Yuuma looks like an amateur. The Lightning Zeta is even more of a testament to Yuuma's building skills. All Kamiki did was tack a few pieces of shit on to someone else's work.

>>14003472
I would have really loved it if she was portrayed more as a 'Matilda' type character to the two boys.
Also she should have exclusively used heavily customised Feddy grunt suits.

>>14003706

I thought they said the Lightning Gundam was based on the F91?

>>14003829
>Fumina keeps advancing and customizing her GMs until they're Sei-tier in detail, systems, and ability
>This is really why she gets scouted to be the next Lady Kawaguchi

Would've been nice.

>>14003706
>especially with how shitty the RE-GZ kit is
Pretty sure there's no such thing as a garbage kit in the GBF-verse.

>>14004007
The only guy weirder than straight assembly shimon is First Grade Freddy

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>>14002773
What's wrong with Bolo impersonation. And oh, there's two of us.

>>14002757
Dear anon, I salute your superior taste.

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>>14003968
no, it's not.

>>14004007
even so, it's still a nicely modded RE-GZ that obviously has a lot of work put into it, not just aesthetically but also functionally.

>>14004216
Not to mention it has a full inner frame like Sei does for his stuff and the night before the finals he essentially rebuilt it to have new part connections for easier part swapping. Yuuma proved he was an impressive and skilled builder over the entire series, if not a particularly creative one.

>>14003028
>You can tell the writer of season 2 of 00 had involvement with this show. It's soulless.

I wish people would stop giving so much stock to Japanese scriptwriters for story in anime.

Both seasons had the same writer.

You know what changed? The Director.

Without a doubt the change in director is what lead to the poorer story. What people can;t understand is anime is a Director driven show.

Much like how western TV shows will have producers who lead their shows, they are the driving forces. Each episode will have specific directors and script writers, but ultimately they all bend to the vision of the producers.

It is the same with anime. Directors are the equivalent of producers.

In Try's case they had Shinya Watada who was a no name chump with little to no experience - who was the only person crazy enough to say YES to creating and directing an all original show in the span of 6 months! (BF season 1 had about 2-3 years of build up and planning in comparison).

>>14003028
>likeable characters, solid writing, great fight choreography

Nice elaboration. Some good fight scenes don't excuse the actual uninspired ones that make up the majority. Try also has some good fight choreography at times. A big fight was set up in episode 5 and it sucked when it finally happened with obvious corner cutting or plain lack of care.

Where's this solid writing? It's mired in common place tropes with little alteration. When it isn't, it's a spoof or subversion of Gundam, something Try also did from time to time. The problem with both is it never goes anywhere interesting and just replaces it with what you'd label as "generic shounen." There's an occasional chuckle, that's about it. Does the cyber-newtype reference and tragic past enhance the tsundere archetype Aila is patterned after? The cliche relationship between Aila and Reiji?

>But you take me as the type that's never had some sort of item you've kept with you for most of your life that you'd feel genuinely sad about losing.

Except I never said I had a problem with that or the separate self-destruction scenario that was brought up by someone else. Ease up, armchair psychologist. Episode 15 is probably my favorite episode.

>>14004342
Solid writing doesn't mean "greatest writing of all time", it means it holds up, there's no hypocrisy or errors in the story, and it draws you in. Your saying that the story was never interesting is completely subjective, alongside saying that there's a majority of "uninspired" fights, which is proven even more bullshit when you say that Try of all things had good fight choreography, something that can't be found in any episode thanks to the retarded 3v3 format that completely limited the show in a sad attempt to sell more kits. While GBF may have had some "generic" tropes, the likeable characters and instances in the story made up for them. And you saying you never had a problem with fellini's emotional scene or the self destruct scene after is bullshit, because after all this entire argument was created because you thought it was cringeworthy, which means you -do- have a problem with it.

I know I've said this before, but one of my biggest gripes are all of the OC gunpla. It's like I'm to believe that these kids are so fucking amazing at Gunpla and Plamo that they build their own with no base model and no unique parts.
Fumina somehow engineered a SD gundam that can transform into a RM gundam while keeping all the original features of the Winning sich as jet mode and limbs that make a weapons booster.
Those triplets also who made SD that transform into a fucking dragon. Almost every single gunpla anyone uses in this show is an OC. Does no one else think this shit is absolutely stupid?

>>14004527
Build Burning probably would have been cooler if it was a customized God Gundam or something. Instead it's just got a really generic stock Gundam look with a few pieces of transparent plastic on it.

>>14004444
>entire argument was created because you thought it was cringeworthy

That wasn't me, which was implied by me saying "I never said..." I only said a homage doesn't make it good and that was in reference to episode 15, not that I personally disliked it. You brought up the self-destruction all on your own.

>>14004444
>even more bullshit when you say that Try of all things had good fight choreography

The Destiny and Try-On 3 fights were better than most GBF fights. Pretty much all I'm saying.

>>14004558
If that's what you're saying then we're just getting into subjective territory. I thought the Try-on 3 was neat but then they just recycled the stock footage to use up more of the episode while team try (all of them) acted like they were actually getting hit. Like, if they were in the cockpit, that's how they were reacting. It bugged the shit out of me in that episode and ruined the fight for me. And the destiny fight is only good for sekai getting his shit pushed in before he just movespammed his way into another victory. But I put both of these below zaku amazing, or fellini versus aila, and definitely, definitely put it below the bloodhounds episode. I'm not one to call opinions wrong because when it comes to opinions there isn't really a right or wrong, but c'mon man. Bloodhounds is such a good fight that it puts other, actual gundam series fights to shame in some regards.

>>14004568
Not him but I agree with you. Despite liking the Tryon 3, it really didn't do much. It rocketpunched, boomeranged, did a fuckhuge beam, pulled out a sword and didn't even attack anyone with it, just sent beams at them, then lost.

>>14004568
>I thought the Try-on 3 was neat but then they just recycled the stock footage to use up more of the episode while team try (all of them) acted like they were actually getting hit.
No, you don't understand.

>>13990951
It's good if you like G gundam but once tryon 3 appears those episodes jump to a 20/10.

>>13994409
>>13994422
>>13994438
I hate Flay, bu I also dislike bft. Stop making my head hurt.

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>>14003522
>>14003535
It was a combination of that, and him punching a thing super hard. I'm no medical expert, but I don't think that's something a hand with carpal tunnel should be doing.

>>14004558
Hey, the fight against the Mega Size Zaku was great. Loved watching that thing fall.

>>14005395
This. Almost every fight of GBF is memorable and good, the only one I really think isn't is the Mao battle. GBF:Try has no memorable battles outside of Snapfag Simon, most of the edgy MMA kid because Sekai was getting his ass pushed in for once, and Tryon-3. The last two also had shit for endings.

Favorite GBF fight, go.

Mine has to be the Sei/Reiji vs Fellini fight. Goddamn that was good.

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>>13990951
Do you remember the fight between Meijin's Exia and Julian's F91?

Of course you don't, nobody remembers that because Julian was fucking introduced the very episode of his fight and made to be a big deal, but nobody really cared since he was defeated and forgotten after his one episode.

That's basically all of Try.

>>14005682
I always smile at the A Baoa Qu final battle. That whole fortress spawning out of nowhere with an army of Mocks defending it was practically begging anyone with a gunpla to jump in and join the fun. And you could tell people were doing exactly that.

>>14005702
>nobody remembers glorious F91 VS Exia fight

Bullshit. People to this day chalk that up as one of the best moments of GBF. You're right about nobody caring about Julian though.

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>>14005682
Used to be the Meijin vs Renatos fight, but the more I think about it, I actually prefer the battle royale. Specifically Fellini vs the Kek squad.

>>14005722
>Specifically Fellini vs the Kek squad.
Fuck that was great
>Gaw carrier full of buttblasted dudes
gets me every damn time

>>14005722
>>14005728
cuck squad?

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>>14005772
These six got together with the german champion to take out Fellini as revenge for him stealing all of their girlfriends.

>>14005772
there's a group of guys who entered the world tournament solely to get revenge on fellini fucking their girlfriends away from them

germany's cziommer was the leader and the one who tried the most, but during the massive earth-space free for all battle he built a giant gaw carrier and loaded up all of the other cucks into it, all using villain suits, to wait and lay a trap for fellini

>>14005672
Despite almost all the battles being shit in Try, I liked the battlefield for the Sky field in the Full Cloth fight. A floating archipelago is a neat setting for mobile suit fights.

>>14005994
That battlefield was gorgeous. Unfortunately it was wasted on one of the most bullshit fights ever.

>>14006015
The real kicker was that were supposed to believe that the I-Field and weapons cost that much plavsky particles, while fucking repair and farting out dragons does not

>>14006026
To be fair the first time Sekai shat out a dragon it fucked up the build burning quite a bit. But you know, plot devices made it spammable.

My only complaint about GBF is that every other scene China was in she was saying "Iori-kun's gunpla..." while holding her mouth crying. Shit got old fast.

>>14005789
Was anyone else rooting for these guys?

Where did the gook main animator in GBF go? I didn't see any of his animation in Try. All I see is Obari's low budget stills which casuals will eat because MUH MANLY ROBOTS.

Now they even hire that guy for IBO.

>>14006050
Felt kind of ridiculous how assimilation ended up being the plot coupon to victory. Before only people with arista crystals could tap into the newtype connecting powers of the plavsky particles, Aila excluded. But now that doesn't even seem to be a requirement anymore and any hotblooded idiot can do it and bullshit his way to victory.

>>14004255
His fighting style is to stand at a distance and snipe, nigh-exclusively. He's just not a very creative person in general.

>>14005804
The best is that they would have won had Sei and Mao not interfered since they had great teamwork

>>14008113
They actually were beating Sei too. It was Mao who showed up and just Satellite cannoned the shit out of them.

>>14008127
Maoh tends to do that whenever he appears. I recall his contribution to the A Baoa Qu campaign was laughing maniacally while he spammed his skull satellite cannon at anything that moved.

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>>14009676
>A Baoa Qu campaign

OK /m/, A BAOA QU GBF-EDITION HAS HAPPENED AND YOU HAVE TO HELP FIGHT THE MILLIONS OF MOCKS. WHAT DO YOU USE?

Mine's Pic related

>>14008071
Most of the characters in Try weren't creative.

>>14009826
that doesn't excuse him

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>>14009818
The only correct answer

>>14009818
Would probably use my NuStrike, seeing as you need something that could take on a massive army

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>>14009894

The might of Ball.

>>14009894
>>14009919
A Balla Qu.

>>14006015
I will never stop being angry for the manner in which Crossbone jobs. Never.

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>>14009818
Schuzrum Galluss. I don't care if I have to steal it from the Zeeks. I want to fist fuck the shit out of my enemies.

>>14009818
Kshatriya. Set cannons to spread and funnels to maximum.

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>>14009818

Stick with the classics.

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>>14009818
This glorious piece of shit.
Or the original, the Dendrobium is pretty cool too.

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>>14009913
>>14009818
pic related.

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>>13991933
>The first episode is pretty good
Yeah, Deus Ex Machina is my favorite writing technique.

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>>14009818
If we are operating by the first GBF rules I would take pic related and take out its legs for even more rifle and shield bits, I would become the physical incarnation of beam spam

>>14011236
It was something of a deus ex machina, but it was a pretty cool one. And really, I can't bring myself to complain about a scene where the Burning explodes its way out of a Dom while GENKAI NANTE NAI blasts in the background.

>>14011236
It was interesting the first time it happened, the 19th time though?It was boring and expected

>>14004579
You have no sense of romance or aesthetics.

>>14011329
Nor do the creators of this show.

The sad thing about Try is that the filler episodes are the only good ones.

>>14011302
>MORE BEAM SPAM
>Doesn't just make the mobile suit entirely out of Funnels and a few Bits like a super Turn X
What the fuck are you even doing Anon.

>>14011091
>Nu Strike
But it's just a Strike Freedom

>>14011492
The funny thing about it, is that IT IS an actual Strike-Freedom, like it's a Strike that has features of the Freedom.

>>14011309

Im mostly just curious why it was hiding in a Dom at all on top of hiding in a trophy

>>14011630
Sei was really bored.

>>14011664
Sei probably really intended it for Reiji's use. He's probably using a ranged Gunpla.

>>14011615
Going by Gundam naming conventions, it is the Star Build Strike Strike Freedom Pack Snow White.

>>14011679
>Snow White
you're tempting me to make a crossbow buster Rifle.

>>14011673
>Sei probably really intended it for Reiji's use.

Okay, that's well and good but why hide it in a Dom AND a Trophy

>>14011719

Or he could just keep it at home, where Reiji is likely to look for him.

If he's that worried about it he could put it in a box or something.

>>14011725
I'm just glad that What Sekai found was the Build Burning. Now imagine the rage that would ensue if what he found was the SBS/BSC

>>14011719
Somewhere out there, Sei left a series of riddles and clues all over the map. Clues only Reiji could solve, left in dozens of random places, one leading to the next, eventually leading to Build Burning. It took months of planning. Then Sekai found it on accident.

>>14011719
Because Reiji won that trophy and he never actually thought anyone would ever use it.

Fuck if I know about the Dom tho.

>>14011736
going by the 4 cups on China's house, Reiji probably knows that he's not going to get the BB. He's probably getting some kind of Build Impulse.

>>14011750
Reiji wouldn't know shit about it because he left at the end of the 7th tournament and never came back.

>>14011732
I wish we got more screen time of the Cosmos.

>>14011732
>Now imagine the rage that would ensue if what he found was the SBS/BSC

He might have to learn how to fight and not magic hax his way through everything?

>>14011756
dude, there were 4 cups on China's house back in France. one's obviously for Sei, the other two are obviously Aila and Reiji.

>>14011761
actually, there's a good chance he uses RG on the onset of the battle.

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>>14011756

how long till you think one of his retainers sat down and gave him whatever the alien equivalent to the birds and bees talk is

>>14011762
Yeah, as in RIP AILA AND REIJI.
Those nigga are in Arian and nobody knows how to get there and vice versa.

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>>14011770
>Those nigga are in Arian and nobody knows how to get there and vice versa.

you wish

>>14011767

The Gundam Frames and the Core Fighters?

>>14011783

they don't have gundam on aria

>>14011737
Doms are just cool.

Maybe he built it for Mr. Ral so he could finally get his Doms. But left it in the trophy when he left the country. Build Burning is also in there because there wasn't enough room for two mobile suits unless he put them together like that.

>>14011792
They have the Mocks now though.

I still like the suggestion that Season 2 should have gone down like the Globetrotters in Futurama:
>A portal suddenly appears in the middle of Tokyo, and a massive White-Base-esque ship flies out
>A sinister figure stands atop of the ship, and calls out in a booming voice:
>"People of Earth! For centuries you have lived ignorant of the proud nation of Arian! But now, for no reason and with no other motives, we have come to challenge you to Gunpla Battle! The stakes: absolutely nothing!"
>On closer examination, the ship has no weapons of any kind

>>14011792
Did you not watch the final episode?
The chairman was selling Gunpla. The crown prince of Arian LOVES gunpla battle and the means of animating the gunpla originally came *from* Arian.

There's no way they didn't make a gunpla battle system in Arian, that's probably the only reason that the Chairman is free to sell Mocks instead of hanging upside-down in a dungeon for stealing an Arista crystal.

>>14011899

either pick up on the alien shit or the mafia shit.

S2 gave us NOTHING. It was amazing. They actually would have to put in MORE work to ignore the hooks S1 gave

>>14011719
It's in the trophy because that's the trophy Sei and Reiji won as a team, and he said he sealed away BB along with his painful memories after it was clear Reiji wasn't coming back.

It's inside the Dom because Sekai was trained by Domon Kasshu, and Sei likely didn't want anyone to accidentally find it and claim the superpowered Meijin-tier gunpla for themselves and go on a rampage, like Junya did. And then Sekai did exactly that.

>>13991972
That room and dog look just like a friend of mine's from high school.

>>14011899
>>14011919
>All the fighters from Arian have their own super-customized Mock variants and descendants
>Except Reiji and Alia, who personally modified their own Mocks to resemble Gundams
>Yajima Trading/Bandai completely sells out of Mocks and Hi-Mocks within two days

>>14002900
Not true, Minato was the first person to stomp Sekai using the SD Gundams, and remains undefeated to Sekai.

Guy literally would have creamed everyone if it was just a 1 v 1 battle like S1.

I never bothered to watch Try, I only fapped to the porn it generated. I already had the feeling the fights would be uninspired since by the end of GBF everything was solved by build knuckle.

>>14011792
Isn't Arian a space colony?

>>14013143

It's some type of cylindrical living environment, but the details on Arian are exceptionally vague.

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>>14012957
>>Except Reiji and Alia, who personally modified their own Mocks to resemble Gundams

Aila in Haman Regalia when

>>14011767
Watching these two learn to build was easily one of my favorite parts of the series.

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>>14011767
I'm still waiting on any news about a damn ARIAN DAILY LIVES OVA.

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gotta say becoming space queen is a pretty good ending

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why is Saori Hayami so wonderful

>>13990951
It's ok. It's just that it's MC and main focus is pretty dull as a character if you prefer to have more drama like the last season did. Other than that, the story is lighter than the first season's, so don't expect anything like close to the mind control drama in season one.

>>14011777
But they need arista crystals to make the wishes that let them warp between realms. I just wonder why Nils never investigated plavsky particle warp technology, especially after seeing what was possible at the end of the tournament. Him being able to now manufacture plavsky particles should logically lead into that.

>>14015827

In his defense, he's what 14?

>>14016708
The guy has THREE doctorates and specializes in particle physics. At 14.

>>14015827
Who's to say he isn't researching it? Didn't he mention that they've learned all sort of stuff about plavsky particles to Ral? They are just unrelated to Gunpla Battle so the show doesn't care about them.

nils wanted the secret of plavsky particles so badly because it can revolutionize technology and science in general

then he gets caught up in gunpla battle and 7 years later he's running a gunpla battle centre and forgot all about helping humanity

>>14016750
Wasn't that just a Yajima Trading plavsky particle research facility, and also had a section dedicated to gunpla battle that top contenders regularly used?

>>14016750

Looking at Gundam, Nils realized that the secrets of the Plavsky Particles and contact with Arian's world would usher in a new age of turmoil for humanity in his. He shredded his notes, vowed to secrecy with his wife Caroline, and dedicated his life to making sure the Plavsky Particle system developed only along the lines of a toy system.

The alternative is to acknowledge that Try's script direction simply thrashed all that for reasons best left unknown.

>>14016765
Yes. He directly says he knows everything about the Plavsky particle to Ral as well when they meet, so he's been doing more than just Gunpla battle stuff.

>>14016750
What if nothing came of it and he just decided to get Gunpla battle working again?

>>14016770
>The alternative is to acknowledge that Try's script direction simply thrashed all that for reasons best left unknown.

It was directly said before the show even aired (And I think even as far back as the end of the first season) that they have no plans of EVER developing the other worlds or the dimension hopping stuff because it would draw too much attention away from gunpla battles.

>>14016787
>It was directly said before the show even aired (And I think even as far back as the end of the first season) that they have no plans of EVER developing the other worlds or the dimension hopping stuff because it would be too hard to write

>>14016823
>wanting BF to turn into Beyblade/Yugioh

>>14016787

By the looks of it, that's a good thing, because even the Gunpla battles seemed to be too hard for them to write.

I imagine replicating Plavsky Particles with a utilizing system as a test base should be a lot easier than using it to build something entirely un-documented and un-researched to traverse space-time insofar as a magic particle is concerned, so who knows? Nils might still be on the job.

>>14016776
Synthesizing plavsky particles for gunpla battle would singlehandedly net Nils funding for whatever research he wanted to do for life, as gunpla battle is an international sport that relies outstandingly on a stable supply of the particles. Caroline would supply him with the means to manufacture them, and he'd be free to do whatever else he wanted with them for as long as he wanted.

>>14016854

be better than try

>>14016880
Nils works for the Research Division of Yajime Tech. In that news article at the end of BF it was mention that Yajime supported Nils in rediscovering the plavsky particle and that at the moment Yajime will focus on restarting gunpla battle in order to use the profit towards plavsky research like Nils always wanted to do.

>>13990951

It's about more of the same.

>>13990951
Wait, I recall people saying that the third Meijin won the championship three times in a row, but then I also recall people saying Sei is the current world champion, so is he?

>>14017060
you're just incorrectly remembering things

>>14016770
>Season 3
>a new group of characters are pissed off at Nils, think he's a sellout
>thinks it's a waste that his talent is spent on some toys
>story is about them trying to stop plavsky from becoming proprietary info
>Build Fighters Turn A

>>14017108
first three lines were promising, like they were gonna use gunpla with portable arista crystals to fight a guerilla war against yajima

last line sucked because now I'm just gonna thing it's gonna be boring and maybe only kick into high gear in the last 5 episodes

>>14017127
>Turn A
>boring
Stick to AZ faggot.

>>14017060
Sei is not the current world Champ. Or if he is then it is never mentioned in series. In fact, the only times in series people mention Sei in relationship to the the world tournament is the time he won with Reiji and the time he used proto-build burning which we never get to see. And seeing as how there is only the one championship trophy in the club room he most likely never won again.

>>14017133
az was boring as fuck too

>>14017108

I don't think any follow up to BF has to invoke world destruction, but it wouldn't hurt for an overarching plot, say, a third party approach Shimon to get him to defeat Sekai with a bet of if Sekai loses, the Build Burning goes, Junya to be backed by a them who wants to get their hands on a Sei product to see how he builds, etc. I wouldn't go as far as to say that there should be a Mashita 2.0 with a grudge against Sekai and the Build Burning or a total re-inclusion of the Gunpla mafia, but it would be nice to see some actual tension in the overarching plotline.

They may have said that they wanted to focus on the Gunpla battling, but the complete lack of any kind of tension apart from player conflict puts Build Fighters Try on a lower pedestal than Build Fighters.

So is there still no good BD option for Try?

>>14017137

he probably retired from playing entirely.

which is kind of sad

>>13994448
re: Winning Gundam, I think the point was that Yuuma and Sekai had improved to the point where they don't need her support anymore.

>>14017137
Did you miss the whole part about the new pieces they needed direct from Sei himself? That China had to bring express from whatever country they were in?

>>14022265

Well see the thing is, they didn't. They never really learned any proper team work. Fuumina just encouraged their previous bad behaviors instead of forcing them to learn to work as a unit.

Fuck Sekai never even learned to shoot

what was the point of revealing domon right at the end

we all knew it was him, and confirming it didn't recontextualize anything about earlier episodes

>>14022288
Let's be honest, Fumina was the only one with any sense of teamwork on that team. Yuuma and Sekai just did their own thing, and generally ignored each other unless they had to perform a save. Fumina's Winning Knuckle and Winning Launcher let them score kills, but removed her gunpla entirely from the fight.

Best I can tell Lady Kawaguchi was trying to tell her that being a support unit is fine, but you need to be able to hold your own when the time comes and not critically overspecialize yourself to serve one function only like she's been doing.

>>14022313

Yeah. I mean her cardigan was a nice mid range unit. They could have had a nice formation there. Instead she just drops her parts and sits the fight out.

Although I was already rolling my eyes when LOL GIRLS USE THE SD

>>14022313
I didn't care too much back then but now all I wonder is why the fuck they didn't let her keep the Cardigan. Like that just screams out "this is a mistake"

>>14020783

It's possible that he had fun consistently finishing in the high-level brackets without winning the championship. Or maybe he decided to focus on building when the 3-on-3 format became the norm.

We're all trying pretty hard to justify lazy writing, to be honest. It seems most likely that the writers just didn't care about what happened to the characters from GBF.

>>14022320
>>14022406
I could easily see her keep upgrading her Cardigan with more specialized weapons and assists for both herself and Yuuma and Sekai, until it ends up looking like it came straight out of Thunderbolt. And a super customized GM would make sense for the support/assault unit team leader.