Gundam IBO (Iron Blooded Orphans)

>>13956087

>Everybody mopes about Biscuit and also the orphans use Carta as a bargaining chip to make their 'struggle' even easier

So, who's ready for next week?

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>>13956087
Will they throw Biscuit body into the sea?

>>13956087
>Nothing the series

Will someone say something about Kudelia's tears being so pure?

>>13956141
That will be on character with the current narrative, this show loves Kudelia after all

The whole preview is just a bunch of people looking sad?

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>>13956175
I know, right!?

Considering IBO is almost over this will likeable be the last episode for normal development, after this the next stop should be setting up for the final battle I hope

>people are sad over biscuit
>people are sad over ein
>some adults looking concerned possibily being evil or something
sometimes I wonder why I even bother downloading the episodes when I know what will happen and delete it afterwards.

>>13956087
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmxltz0zEJ4

>>13956099
>use Carta as a bargaining chip to make their 'struggle' even easier
I'll actually be very upset if the episode doesn't immediately start with Mika going nuts and absolutely crushing Carta in her MS until someone yells for him to stop already, she's dead etc.. cue OP MAWARIWATTE SAA IMA

>>13956087
>ALL DAT STARING

NOTHING

THE HAPPENING

>>13956389
Oh, and my reasoning for this is that Mika has been shown to be excessively protective of his friends (choking Gali-Gali at the farm), so naturally when Biscuit dies he'll snap.
Bonus points if the Barbatos' eyes start glowing all demonic like because of the Alaya-Vijnana system and the whole demon theme the names have going on

BISCUIT WAS 16

>>13956138
They should eat him.

>>13956087
Hope my boy Mika literally rapes carta to death like the badass he is

>>13956569
I hope her rape is so brutal that SJW catch wind of this and start protesting in anger

>>13956530
Beat me to it

>>13956087
>implying Biscuit won't come back as a cyborg

NO ROBOTS HAHAHA EVEN WITH TURN A'S TALKY EPS THE TURN A IS STILL FUCKING THERE AND IT'S EVEN DOING SOMETHING

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>>13957333
He is a little cold right now to become a cyborg

>>13957351
God its pretty dull how the MS never move or anything out of combat except that one still frame where it was helping repair the hull of the ship

>>13957367
>implying this isn't just a ruse

They'll replace him with his other secret indentical twin brother

At this point all I care about is Yamagi winning the Norbabowl.

>>13957367
I thought they said black was slimming

>>13956389
>>13956404

LOOK AT THIS FUCKWIT ACTUALLY BEING THIS INVESTED IN THIS TRASH

TELL US ABOUT YOUR WAIFU YOU TWAT

>>13956087
OrgaxMerribit comfort sex when?

>>13956087
>biscuit is dead
>biscuit is dead
>biscuit is dead
Nothing happens yet again.

>>13956295
>IBO
>normal development

>>13957933
Just after you croak.

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>>13956087

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>>13957933
You can't keep a sexually frustrated cake at bay for long.

>>13958326
Anon attempts to be funny, fails miserably.

News at 11.

>>13958326
kek

>>13958326
>has much presence when dead

man Ein never gets a break

>>13958362
at least he can kill children in his dreams, because in real life he will job hard

>>13956175
>The whole preview is just a bunch of people looking sad?

What, you were expecting to see Gundams duking it out ? You're mad, this is IBO not some stupid mecha show.

>>13958326
It's not funny anymore when entire episode can be
accurately predicted through preview pics.

>>13958326
WAKE UP EIN YOU FUCK
WE ONLY GOT LIKE 3 EPISODES LEFT GODDAMN

>>13958486
This. I want Ein to kill the shit out of the orphans.

>>13956087
>Norba is smiling

>>13956087
Bore-phans NAMIDA

>>13957391
that's pretty mean, man. I was just giving my thoughts on what i'd like to happen and what I think will probably happen.

>>13956520
HE
Wait, what DID Biscuit like to do? What were his hobbies and interests?

>>13958536
The character bios said he liked to read.

>>13958588
Did he ever do that in the show though? Did the show give you that impression?

>>13958658
The show doesn't give you much of an impression about anyone.

>>13958663
My point exactly.

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New picture, this time Orga feeling guilty

>>13958882
At least he actually has something to whinge about now, but it's beyond stale at this point.

>>13958882
So Merrybit will comfort him?

>>13958536
Eat, clearly

>>13956087
If you havent watched the series those previews make it look like everyones sad over ein

>>13958882 Orga feeling guilty
>>13956087 Orga shirtless and feeling guilty with unidentified dark object at the screen's top right

What does that mean?

>>13958920
he ate Biscuit

the boy so chunky Orga can't even resist

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>>13958911
They should be, he is not dead yet after all and that’s going to hurt them

>>13958921
Considering how many are suggesting the idea here, high chances Orga won’t be alone in that

>>13958932
I'd eat biscuit.

why the fuck american biscuit is a bun and british biscuit is a cookies

which one is the real biscuit

>>13958995
British one.

>>13958995
Biscuits are more or less the same thing as cookies, thats how I see it. A fancier term for them.

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>>13958995
this one

>>13958882
Why the fuck is he looking at his hands?

>>13959083
That's what you do when you go "What have I done?!"

>>13959093
Only if you are an anime character.

>>13958326
>just as much presence when dead
>heihachi
okay I laffed

>>13958882
>"I wish to have breasts these big"

>>13956087
Biscuit died
Ein mechanised?

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>>13957379
Soon?

>>13959112
underrated post

>>13958326
Alright anon, see you tomorrow.

>TFW Stopped watching at ep 17.
>Next to no motivation to catch up.

Does it get better at all?

>>13959398
Not for you.

Go away.

>>13958882
They should join the Grimgar cast and drown in beer and tears together. Typical Okadrama crap.

>>13958486
>Ein is fighting while still carrying feelings of loss for his senpai
>Ein is in a coma and will wake up to his 3rd suit
>Ein was born and raised in a 3rd world country
>Ein only knows how and desires to kill
Is Ein what Setsuna would've been if he hadn't become an innovator and found understanding?

>>13959652
Was he a child soldier? And abducted into a secret organization?

Or are you making vague generalizations?

>>13958882
what are the odds he blames mika for biscuits death, leading him to yell and drive mika away which causes him to feel guilty.

>>13959900
There are chances that could happens, I hope that’s not the case, Orga never seems like the type that would throw blame on others, but who knows Orga is under a lot of pressure with that “I must be cool for Mika” maybe he will finally snap because of it

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Poor orga
he''l never knead biscuit's dough again

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>>13956087
A new preview pic

>>13960422
>inb4 "i'm so fucked up" whilst standing over biscuits open body bag

>>13962379
Gundam Graze

>>13962379
Was this already revealed?

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>>13962403
Is that thing a Gundam? Or simply a super Graze?

>>13962379
>Next episode: Ein thinks about killing children with his new machine sitting very still in the hanger

>>13962415
I hope he really kills all of them.

>>13962422
Kill them Johnny, kill them all.

What happened?

>>13962415
I can already see it.

>>13962403

THE WORLD IS GRAZE

http://strawpoll.me/7007834

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>>13962449
Mika and Orga had a close moment

>>13962463
Is Carta dead?

Does anyone else feel like the plot still isn't really going?

Everyone was saying lots of stuff would happen on earth, but the only political scene we've had on earth was exposition. You can't say it is a character story either as when Biscuit started to have an arc he just dies

>>13962530
No. I didn't watch the stream but she is apparently back with her squad or whatever. I guess Mika just let her go or something. There is no other way for her to escape.

>>13962550

>Have the person who just mortally wounded your comrade at gunpoint
>Don't kill her to batter the morale of Gjallarhorn forces on Earth
>Don't capture her to use as leverage
>Just let her go

You know, I won't be surprised if this happens.

>>13962550
what

>>13962550
Maybe she just run for her life when everyone was "MUH BISCUIT!"?

>>13962550
Oh for fuck's sake
This show can't do anything right

>>13962550
This is it, right? The moment where even ardent supporters see what a pile of shit this has become?

>>13962558
>>13962558
She did still have two fuqboi's guarding her, Mika only escaped their lock, he didnt touch them

>>13962564
fuck no, and fuck you! IBO 4 life cucklover!

>>13962566
>their lock
You mean he broke the toothpicks they used to stop him?

>>13962566
Mika had her pinned to the ground and it's not like they can damage Barbatos.

>>13962576
They dont have to damage it, they just need to knock him off and let squirrel run back to the ship

>>13962566

Well, even then, you know, that's the route they take with this character?

They don't have her be the victim of Mika's wrath because she just killed their friend, or they don't disable and capture her to get an upper hand on the bargaining table, they just let her leave and blast off again like goddamn Team Rocket?

>>13962578
They would have to cross the battlefield to do so while she is literally at death's door. He could just smash her cockpit with that big ass weapon.

>>13962584
If she dies next episode I'm going to be pissed since letting her go accomplished nothing. I still don't get why Takaki lived when he hasn't done shit since his near death.

>>13962585
I actually think Takaki was meant to die but they changed it last minute. He has barely been present and the whole mourning would make more sense if a named character had been lost cause otherwise only brain dead audience members would care

The question is why exactly? My theory is they expected more shipping with him and guts

>>13962564
Maybe if Carta wasn't actually the best character of them all.

>>13962591
Even the fans forgot about Takaki and it was a huge disappointment that he survived to do absolutely nothing. I think maybe the backlash from Mika executing those guys was still lingering at that point so they avoided killing him because of that.

>>13962591
>>13962620
Nah I think he lived after that obvious death flag to introduce the magical space jacuzzi that's now saving ein. Though they've done nothing with takaki since then so he might as well be dead

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I think they did it. Even if it's objectively worse, I enjoyed SEED Destiny way more than this. Starting from some point every episode is slowly melting me. I'm so bored it's like torture. My head just feels dull and drowsy. I eat during watching on purpose just to have something to do. God forgive me, I'd rather watch G-reco.

>Not all of them are Naze's wives

FRAUD DETECTED

>>13962745
Try getting drunk, I've been doing it since ep. 15. This week I didn't and couldn't sit through the episode.

>>13962755
>This week I didn't and couldn't sit through the episode
I've stopped watching because of this. Watching it is like eating gruel, putting any concentration in you just get the most bland nothing

It's why people only ever talk about one or two moments from an episode as there is nothing of real note outside it.

>>13962751
Was Lafter the one who said that? Are they his whores?

>>13962751
last week someone was complaining that the tarbine girls had no backstory and some anon hoped they would be rescued slaves or prostitutes.
this episode essentially confirmed this but you people still complain

>>13962751
>>13962772
There are children that have traits from different girls at least. I think what she actually means is that he took them in out of compassion and not for the sake of getting more wives.

>>13962772
He is probably only romantically engaged with a couple of them (amida, lafter, azee) and just calls the others his wifes, so the others in Teiwaz don't decide to make them prostitutes again. keep in mind Teiwaz is basically space Yakuza

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>Lol allah's vagina is totally cool dude!
>C'mon bro don't be a puss
>Just let them perform this incredibly risky operation on your spine and brain stem
>It's for the greater Gjallarhorn good!

They're both going to die for the sake of ChocoChars shitty plan aren't they

In all of this nothing happens and protagonists with no motivation, they've become the only characters I cheer for too, along with Carta (who is as good as dead too)

God damn it Ein better get to kill at least five kids for this

>>13962785
Oh. Why is Eco getting lots of screen time lately?

>>13962777
People have been speculating that since the moment they were introduced. There's now 3 episodes left, o don't think anyone's gives a fuck anymore

>>13962792
RAISE YOUR FLAG!

>>13962792

Because we need someone to die aside from Biscuit so it feels like the orphans have struggled to get where they are.

>>13962777
That guy was just making a joke

But the problem with this is like a lot of IBO it is half arsed. It tries to do something with a load of characters but doesn't have time, a good direction, interesting implications or pay off and you end up with a load of characters that just have traits or feelings stapled on. Not every character needs to have some big backstory just make them work nicely as a simple thing.

>>13962798
>>13962802
Nah, Azee is most likely to die, or maybe Lafter. I thought Eco was there to replace one of them.

So... seriously. How the fuck did Carta escape?

That is literally sub-"Kira somehow survived an explosion" levels of bullshit. At least you can wank that was as implusible. Carta was literally being held down by the Chainsaw Mace last episode, how the fuck did her guys just drag her *entire robot* away from that without Mika killing them?

>>13962790
It's such a perfect setup for cheap drama though:
>Gaelio sacrifices himself while saving Carta next ep.
>Ein wakes up from the coma with AV installed
>"where's Specialist Major?"

Gaelio is my favorite character and I'd hate to see him go like that and become yet another superior that Ein has to avenge.

>>13962808
At least it would make sense this time and not from someone who went I hate killing children it is a bad thing to do

>>13962805
mika was in shock over biscuits death. that probably bought them a second or two.

>>13962792
they needed another mechanic because they have 5 mobile suits now. Ryusei Go, Barbatos 6th form and maybe even Rebake are equipped with Tarbine Technology. at least they're trying to make it plausible where all these new custom MS come from.

>>13962777
That was me and it's kind of late for this. All them revealing this in the very last episodes of the show does is give off death flags to the girls. This is something that should have been mentioned way back when Kudelia and Atra were playing with the babies or sometime during all the shitty downtime we got in space. It doesn't help their characters now. They barely even qualify as characters and there is very little time left for them to grow from this revelation. Naze isn't even in the damn show anymore.

>>13962813
That would take more than a goddamn second or two, Mika was literally holding her robot in the grip of his chainsaw mace, which his robot is still holding.

>>13962767
>>13962755
Get the second monitor. Browse /m/ and "watch" some boring shit like IBO at the same time. I've been doing this for years, highly recommend it.

>>13962804
Azee would likely die doing some sort of line holding, Laftner would be the quick sudden death to a new challenger arriving and Eco is unlikely aside from the hangar being targeted.

>>13962828
So Amida is confirmed for remaining sole survivor?

>>13962809
Undoubtedly, but it would still feel kind of... cheap? I hope Gaelio will at least interact with AV-Ein, it would also provide drama but also a bit of character development.

>>13958326
what are the Fs for?

>>13962834
I'm just listing how they will likely die not that they will all die.

Amida is likely to suvive this season, but should we get another season that opens new possibilities of her dying.

>>13962848

Press F to Pay Respects. Originated from Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, instantly became memetic.

>>13962847
>cheap
That's how every death has felt

> AV-Ein, it would also provide drama but also a bit of character development.
It's terrible that people are looking at two secondary characters for the development isn't it? No one is talking about Mika or Orga

>>13962851

Well, with good reason. Mika's one of the blankest slates to ever blank, and his moment with Orga felt like the first time they shared a scene in months.

>>13962850
Thanks.

>>13962860
I believe it was about 4 episodes ago they sort of had a conversation when everyone was agreeing to let Kudelia do a speech to the colony. They were in a scene together after when Char came on board but that was like a hello and then he talked to Char

>>13962851
>That's how every death has felt
I admit I kind of liked how Fumitan was written in ep. 15 - erratic, self-doubting and inconsistent in her doings. Her death scene felt cheap, though, I agree.

Also, aren't Mika and Orga supposed to be stationary? They are these unwavering protagonists who face doubts, but in the end prove everyone that they were right, at least from their standpoint.

>>13962869
>Also, aren't Mika and Orga supposed to be stationary
Not really when Orga has been doing the self doubt thing forever and even changed views after being challenge like at the funeral

Mika just barely qualifies as a character

>>13962875
>like at the funeral
You're right, I completely forgot that happened.

There's so much forgettable stuff in this show that it's kind of sad.

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>>13962875
Yeah other than Kudelia and Orga it seems everyone else is stationary, they kind of know what they want and their characters won't change much it seems

>>13962869
>They are these unwavering protagonists who face doubts, but in the end prove everyone that they were right

Reminds of me of the first OP.
Orga and Mika both look like bad boys, deliquents, tough, cocky, shaped by a life of violence, foul-mouthed always down for some rough-housing, fearless, and doing things that are incredibly irresponsible. Like you said, they would eventually prove everyone else that they were right.
Orga is the boss while Mika is his quiet but equally as dangerous right hand man.

In the actual show we do get bits of that but in the loosest sense. Orga does do irresponsible and dangerous things, but not because he's fearless and a bit on the edge, but really he's a big softy with low self-confidence does it to impress Mika. In the beginning Mika is the guy who coldly kills people, and throughout the show that has been kept consistent at least, but for the most part he's reduced to a prune-popping autist who only serves as a doll to praise others, be it Orga, Atra, or Kudelia.

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DEATH FLAG

>>13962892
>1080p
WHY

When do we get Newtype shinanigans?

>>13962892
>1920x1080
>quality is absolute shit

You're streaming this, aren't you?

>>13962904
S2.

So it took 22 episodes but I feel like Kudelia is serious and not mulling about being useless. Also was that a centaur Gundam I saw in the preview of next episode?

>>13962940
It's the Kimaris Trooper I think

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>>13962915

>>13962940
Kudelia is amazing, isn't she?
And that was a kimaris.
>>13962967
It's already decided. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

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literally constucted for insemination

>>13962967
We already have a soft confirmation from Daisuki.

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>>13962986
Yes.

>>13963003
>NTR
NO, fuck off cucks

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>>13962986
literally constructed for ryona

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>>13963009
>NTR
No! OTP!

requesting TV ratings, please tell me Japan is still boycotting this disgusting trash.

>>13963059
keep your cries for s2

>>13963065
Fuck no

>>13963059
>not hoping that s2 is created so that it gets much lower ratings to the point of putting Sunrise on hold from ever making more original Gundam works, as well as keeping Mari Okada away from mecha shows

>>13963065
With S2 I can simply not start it. But with S1, now it's too late to stop...

>>13963074
I don't care about S2, I want to know how badly it is doing NOW.

>>13963071
>S2
>writers change
>it's suddenly good

We can only hope, though

>>13962745
Fuck. I can't tell any of them apart. I mean...one has brown hair, but they all look like they're the same fucking person.

>>13962967

Fuck you, Phil Mitchell, it's happening.

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>>13963077
I'll have to watch S2, since the story is not finished yet. It'll a be a torture.
>>13963086
Hope is all that's left.

>>13963093
>Caliburn
Never heard of it

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>>13963086
>S2
>it's suddenly good
Yeah, like that'll ever happen.
When was the last time we get S2 that's better than previous season anyway?

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>>13963097
______00________

>>13963086
Possibly, Okada will be busy work on a different show for a bit.

>>13962745
>I enjoyed SEED Destiny way more than this
The first half, maybe, the second part of Destiny is absolutely atrocious.

>>13963112
>implying Okada's busy schedule has ever stopped her from rushing and drawing up a mediocre and shallow series plan

>>13963115
>the second part of Destiny is absolutely atrocious.
Compared to this shit it isn't, Destiny can be enhanced with popcorn at least.

>>13963097
Turn-A I guess

>>13962777
Characters that do nothing don't need backstories, and certainly not IBO putrid flashback sequences

>>13962805
Yeah, that bothered the fuck out of me. They *NEEDED* a scene to explain the fuck how THAT Happened. Because it makes NO fucking sense. She should be hamburger at this point.

>>13963115
>>13963123

I honestly feel nostalgic for Seed now. That's a mediocre ripoff of other series, but it felt like it was trying to tell a bigger story and have bigger battles. Also, the Coordinator/Natural thing was relatively unique if not done well.

This is just slapping Gundams in a mediocre drama series and calling it a day.

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>>13963123
> Destiny can be enhanced with popcorn at least.
No. Stop spouting nonsense. Seed(both seasons) is bad because characters are insufferable. I wanted to brutally murder every single one of them. Seed makes me mad. And that's a sin.
IBO is just bland. It's "normal". It's "nothing happens: the anime". It's "all those characters are crying under the rain and I can't bring myself to give even a half of a fuck". Being bland is not a sin.

>>13963140
>And that's a sin.
Anyone that takes CinemaSins seriously should be booted from the internet until they grow a brain.

>>13963123
You need to rewatch that godawful Jesus Yamato bullshit and abortion like production. IBO sucks but Destiny is just raping your brain until you become a 14 years old fangirl.

>>13963143

You know the word 'sin' and the meaning attached to it have existed long before that channel, right?

>>13963140
>Being bland is not a sin.
If it is extreme enough it is. Plus it makes me angry (mad would imply insanity) while SEED and Destiny do not.
>>13963144
I have and it was awesome, Yamato kicking ass is at least entertaining which is far more than IBO can ever say.

>>13963140
>Being bland is not a sin
That was X. IBO is bland, dull, unsubstantial and lazy.

>>13963148
>Yamato kicking ass is at least entertaining
14 years old fangirl pls go

Oh shit Mika is actually doing something!

>>13963140
>Being bland is not a sin
Yes it is. Bland gives you fuck all to go on, nothing for your brain to engaged with. Bad is at least something.

When a nuclear reactor explosion is just turned off that is something for me to point at and laugh hey that is hilariously stupid. As a viewer I am engaged on some level

>>13963154
Joke's on you I'm male and asexual, I just like action which this series could use a lot more of.

>>13963059
I know yaraon does them, anyone got a link?

>>13963144

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqEQNKzxwfo

Kira is a godawful deviant art character of a self-insert, but Destiny actually sold the Mobile Suits and had the unrealistic characters look coo.

If this took place in IBO, it would take three episodes of Kira exiting the atmosphere with talking heads of people telling experienced pilots how dangerous it was and then another episode to show the Strike Freedom. Then, we would get three minutes of fighting for all that buildup.

Also, Lacus would be crying for half the series about how she can't protect peace and then someone would give an expo dump on ZAFT and the Durandal take over for 5 minutes. Multiple times.

>>13962892

At least she shows that Naze and Teiwaz are a bastion of hope and not a suspciously nice faction with a dark side.

>>13963009

Ain't no NTR going on there. She admitted that the harem thing is just a ruse and the Turbine's captain just has a soft spot for the ladies.

She's gon' get that young guts D.

>>13963160
>When a nuclear reactor explosion is just turned off that is something for me to point at and laugh hey that is hilariously stupid. As a viewer I am engaged on some level

Also, Kira is literally a superhero thanks to magical genetics. Hell, Nolan Bats survives a nuclear blast in the Banening: Electric Boogaloo.

>>13963218
the batplane was in auto. Batguy jump when the batplane hit the building

>>13963227

Yeah, but he and most of the citywould still be in the blast radius of the magical non-nuclear bomb unless the plane hit the speed of sound in 30 seconds.

>>13963144
>Jesus Yamato
That's cool though, I want more all-poweful MCs with messiah complexes, we don't get nearly enough of them

>>13963198
Anon, they're helping the orphans because they're orphans, of course they're good guys.

>>13963202
Then where did the BABIES come from?

>>13963294
Adopted, obviously.

>>13963202
Pretty sure the implication was that there's a harem, but not every last woman on that ship is doing him. Like, he takes them in, and if he gets to dick them that's awesome, but it's not something he expects of them.

We see maybe half-a-dozen Turbines girls, and even less have names (Marida, Arzee, Eco, Lafter.... missing anyone?), but the Hammerhead would require a crew of at least a few dozen to fully man and maintain.

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>>13963315
The horror of space rats is living on.

How badly will Kimaris Trooper job next week?

Episode 22, right?

That leaves 22, 23, and 24 for people to just stand around and talk to save budget for a huge battle that takes up most of the last two episodes, right? This show won't manage to be a complete fucking anticlimactic letdown in the end, right?

I bet this whole series has maybe three or four episodes worth of actual content. There's just so fucking much of people just standing around talking in circles or dumping exposition that we've already heard.

>>13963086

It's too late anyway. No one wants to hear "just suffer through 25 episodes of mind-numbing, boring shit. It gets good, I promise!"

>>13963337
Stop trying to force this meme. It was never good to begin with anyways.

>>13963363
On the bright side, it'll make it that much easier to turn into recap movies. Assuming they'll even bother with those at all.

>>13963382

It'll be like 0079, except 0079 in its entirety is actually watchable.

>>13963373
This is why I don't get why so many people keep bringing up S2, it's like they are constantly trying to delay admitting the characters aren't good and the plot went no where

Same shit happened with AZ where everyone only turned on it at the very end

>>13963345
>How badly will Kimaris Trooper job next week?
I expect everyone else to job, actually.

Gaelio and Ein will have Alaya-vijnana, presumably they'll be able to go straight to level two-or-three since they're doing it in an actual medical facility. I expect Gaelio to focus on Akihiro (possibly getting Lafter killed), Ein to focus on Norba because "muh Crank", and Carta will somehow keep Mika occupied.

The entire underpinning of the show has been A-V and how it lets Tekkadan mercilessly slaughter everyone they meet, it's time to turn the tables.

>>13963376
Cool mouth, does it talk with dialogue?

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>>13963348
>This show won't manage to be a complete fucking anticlimactic letdown in the end, right?

>>13963406
G-Reco was climactic though

They literally didn't show how she got away. Unbelievable. It reminds of when we were only shown Hilling and the rest retreating in their escape pods in 00 with no explanation until the next episode. The difference being that this show doesn't have the audience on /m/ to make a huge deal out of it.

>>13963414
>They literally didn't show how she got away
Mika sperged out, then froze. Her subordinates grabbed her suit and cheesed it the fuck out of there.

Mika isn't really the sharpest hammer in the box - he probably figured she was good as dead.

>>13963420
He spaced out for so long that others were able to come up, get her out the jaws and drag her away?

>>13963422
The final part doesn't have her in the jaws, it has the jaws closed and clubbed down on her suit's head. As they drag her suit back in this episode, the Graze Ritter is completely missing its head unit.

As an aside, there is one small thing I'm retro-actively appreciating in the combat and that's the armor purges. They're pretty consistent as far as being used strategically.

>>13963429
>As they drag her suit back in this episode, the Graze Ritter is completely missing its head unit.
You make that sound like ripping off a robots head would be a very quick thing you could do that would in no way draw someone's attention. Even if they do have some head detach button that is not something you could do subtly

You make it sound like Mika went into a mini coma where he was aware of nothing for an extended period

>>13963429
What the fuck was norba doing during all this or did he fall into the they made

>>13963429
Mika grabs her suit by the head with the wrench and flips her over his head
The head shouldn't come off that easily

>>13963396
Isn't only Ein getting AV though? The whole setup for the next ep seems like a huge deathtrap for Gaelio and/or Carta too, but I'd actually prefer to see your version.

>>13963432
I'm actually suggesting that Mika smashed off the Graze's head completely - making pulling her suit away reasonably easy to do.

Besides, with Orga right there on the ground and injured, Mika's posture would be entirely defensive.

>>13963433
Good question. Akihiro's position was also unclear since he started out reasonably close to Norba and Mika. All we know is that Arcee and Lafter were holding the beach, and that two guys were able to pull Carta's suit out of there.

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>>13963440
He definitely smashes her face in after grabbing and dropping her.

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>introduce a new character
>have him immediately infodump his entire background and motivation in a monologue
God, the writing in this show is so fucking bad that it still surprises me occasionally.

>>13963453
>suggesting
But that isn't what we see

>making pulling her suit away reasonably easy to do.
Easy to do? I'll be generous as say only one would need to do it but really two would. So they have to run to her when they were dotted around other places, then he needs to drag a massive MS all the way back to a safe point without getting targeted at all and dealing with all the trees and other terrain. Now if two grabbed her it might be easy to carry but that means they have to both coordinate to stop what they are doing and both go there to pick up another MS. That is in no way an easy task why on earth would you defend this when even the show tried to ignore it?

And if Mika was fucking frozen then just kill him. There is zero reason not to stab him through if they were able to start pulling her away

>>13963458
That's attached and now in the ground as well making it harder

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>>13963445
So, the text could go either way, but I feel like the entire point of the speech is convince Gaelio that Gjallarhorn was made on AV, their Seven Stars ancestors had AV, and so those who wish to reform Gjallarhorn ought to have AV.

Also, I really like the idea of Gaelio committing to his revenge with such resolve that he overcomes his prejudice against cybernetics. It'd make his character have an actual journey with meaningful development over these last twenty plus episodes.

>>13963453
>Akihiro's position was also unclear
The day IBO's staff will be able to make a proper battle, I will 100 HG Grazes.

>>13963477
ALALA VAGINA!

not a bad episode but they could have cut that crying "woe is me" time in half though.

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Wow, thanks for the detailed scene showing how she got out of there.

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Gali-Gali better not die next episode. But we know someone from Gjallarhorn is going to die.

>>13963471
>>13963475
>And if Mika was fucking frozen then just kill him. There is zero reason not to stab him through if they were able to start pulling her away
Dude just dominated your entire squad and has incapacitated your beloved commander. Not only would you not want to fuck with him, you may want to actually save your commander. Also, are you really expecting anyone, especially Gjallarhorn's mostly for-play soldiers with their lack of experience and love of pageantry, to think logically in this situation?

As for the head, it's definitely smashed in the ground, but we have no idea about the connection. The inner frame for these suits isn't really all that great, so having the neck snap doesn't seem out of the question. Could the scene have been thought out better? Fuck yes. Is it that bad? Not really. Pretty par for the course with this show.

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Forgive me if it's been explained already (I'm struggling to absorb half this dribble) but do we know who exactly died here? and why?

>>13963477
They should've been the MCs of this, they're much more interesting than Mika.

>>13963499
some random dude probably. or maybe their 'care taker" when they were young.

>>13963499
All we know is that Mika murdered some dude for Orga. I'm assuming that the guy was trying to kill Orga and or Mika, and failed to realize which of the two was actually dangerous.

In the flashbacks, we see Orga bleeding and looking like he's about to shit himself; meanwhile, Mika turns around and looks at him like nothing important just happened.

>>13963502
People were saying the same thing about Graham in 00.

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What the flying fuck was up with the uplifting music in this scene? Shit just comes off as weird.

>>13963496
>. Not only would you not want to fuck with him, you may want to actually save your commander
Your ideas are at odds. They don't want to mess with him, but are willing to walk right up him and pick up a suit that is right under his nose cause they have noticed he is frozen and not doing anything. Do they think he is a bear so no sudden movements as it is fine? I guess Mika just went completely deaf and unaware for all that time

> to think logically in this situation?
This is a fucking horrible argument, anyone can do anything cause lol logic?

>but we have no idea about the connection
So you don't know so whatever? We see >>13963458 everything is connected still so they would have to disconnect in some way, we have seen armour is able to fly off but not so with frames

At this stage you are just saying the show can do whatever it wants

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Carta Issue!

>>13963514
she's dead next episode.

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>>13963477
Tell me more about gundam AV

>>13963516
It'll be a good reason to drop this shit for good then.

>>13963519
It's ridiculous how popular she and Rinko were/are.

>>13963525
depends on how she dies. but come on, hell bent on revenge, just killed biscuit, and Tekkadan going out for blood. Only way she isn't dying is if Gali-Gali pulls an Ein.

>>13963502
Villains are always supposed to be more interesting than the heroes.

So TV ratings on yaraon, anyone got a link to the current set?

>>13963530
But McGills is the good guy. He wants to reform Gjallarhorn and eliminate corruption. Do you even know if deregulating half-metal will do any good?

>>13963477
This would actually be an awesome development. Thanks, I haven't thought of it.

Isn't Gali too old to get AV?

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>You will have more food from now.

>>13963549
i thought Ein was getting it not Gali.

>>13963549
Probably. I'm pretty sure only Ein is going to get one, but they'll both receive gundam frames.

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>>13963549
I'm sure after the implementation it'll leave him even more fucked-up. You know how those things work.

>>13963556
Oh man, CG was so much fun.

>>13963507
Do you think maybe Mika had an innocent personality before this? and maybe Orga bullied him into killing their carer and now he can't stop asking who to kill next? I'm hoping they'll shed light on this before S2

>Ein survives being impaled and not-Hitler recovered from being nearly beaten to death

I am amazed nobody is complaining about this, especially given how much /m/ hates asspull revives.

>>13963556
I hope they will hire Okouchi next season.

>>13963549
I think the age thing might either be a myth, or that age helps an individually heal naturally. Remember, Mars is broke as shit. The pirates and others who still use AV through human debris, are also running on a shoe-string budget (personally wealthy, but institutionally poor). Gjallarhorn has the best tech, the best doctors, and the best facilities.

>>13963553
>Cookie, Cracker! I've got good news! There'll more food around here from now on!
Onii-chan did a great job at work?!
>Hahahahaha, lets just say that biscuit's burnt

>>13963553
>You're grandma will be able to make a profit off of the cornfield now that your lard ass brother isnt eating it all

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Somebody call U2, I think I found The Edge.

>>13963511
Mika and Orga really came off as crazy kid-villains there.

>>13963555
>but they'll both receive gundam frames.
Gali Gali already has a Gundam Frame: ASW 66 Kimaris. As for Ein, he gets a Graze. They just showed us A-V grazes in Gjallarhorn's basement.

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How do we unplug it?

>>13963477
Why are their heads so small?

>>13963562
Hitler doesn't do shit and Ein is at least not walking it off. Takaki was nearly crushed and up by the next episode or so. Ein is probably going to die after taking out a few members of the cast. He's a needed villain anyway. Carta is a joke, Char is playing games, Gali barely has any personal grudge with the cast.

>>13963572
Oh, please, it is the usual edgy line.
They are all talk and nothing and no substance. THIS was the right time to show them going crazy and Carta escaped anyway.

>>13963549
you read the subtitle wrong

Ein is the only one getting AV

>>13963576
Because of korean wage slaves

>>13963577
Let's not forget about one of the Brewers getting scot-off free.

>>13963576
Yaoi anatomy

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I still don't understand what it is so bad about this Alala Vagina.
The things on the back are gross, but it is not like Mika and Akihiro are some kind of rabid dogs because of those.

>>13963594
Centuries of societal prejudice. It's like how Christians hate abortion, there's no rational reason to it's just their culture.

>Gaelio don't know history despite being from a noble family which owns a Gundam frame and working for the organization that invented AV system
What a load of crap. Do they not take tests before enlisting?

>>13963606
>how Christians hate abortion
Except it is not the same thing.
A better comparison would be if Christians were against organ transplant, which doesn't happen.

>>13963607
I'm sure he did know but they were just explaining to the audience.

>>13963612
Jehovah's Witnesses hate blood transfusions.

>>13963612
to be fair it does look really gross so its like fuck off you faggot children i dont want to look at your nasty back spikes

>>13963606
Baby killer

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>you_must_be_fucking_kidding.jpg
I understand trying to give Ein and Gaelio some depth, but this is getting ridiculous.
Anyone with a bit of brain inside the army would understand that Ein is full of shit and his revenge make no fucking sense, given that they attacked first.

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>what shady evil thing can I do today?

>>13963625
>People should have their lives ruined in order to save barely formed lumps of cells absent of anything resembling consciousness.
Christians!

>>13963631
Who are you quoting?

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>those tables and chairs
Now, that is how you show that the Orphans are poor and have no money.

>>13963626
I think they're talking about Ein's loyalty to is commanding officer not his rage to kill some kids. Even though Tekkadan has been making Gjallahron look like a bunch of retards. I mean Ein is what so far the one of the few guys to get a good hit on Tekkadan and thats not saying much

>>13963639
>I think they're talking about Ein's loyalty to is commanding officer
Which is shown only through his desire to get revenge.
He is not loyal, he is beyond delusional.

>>13963637
No, you show that by having main mechanic guy eat and drink only air.

>>13963644
remember when Ein was blabbing about gali showing him the light?

>>13963644
Which is why he took a bullet for Gali-Gali twice?

>>13963631
I'm an atheist BTW and view abortion as abhorrent and dehumanizing act. You reduced a human being as a lump of cells. We don't stop being lump of cells past birth either.

>>13963653
Well, then I'm killing millions of babies every time I jack off.

>>13963651
Yeah, but what was the light?

>>13963652
It is called forced drama. And there is really no reason for us to believe they grew so close.
They only scene meaningful interaction they shared was Ein infodumping his bio from the website, which doesn't really help understanding all this loyalty or admiration from Garma.

>>13963659
What you are so fucking ignorant. Lone sperm and eggs are not humans. It starts at concepton you dolt. Read a fucking biology book.

>>13963653
If there's no brain function it's about as immoral as mashing a potato.

Train segment. Only flashbacks. Little chance of King Overman Gainer references. Why do I keep watching this show?

>>13963653
Right. instead you reduce their mothers to literal baby factories who are obligated to give birth to a child even if they are raped or are in danger themselves. You can't argue against dehumanization if that is what you do to the mother.(And if you're in favor of abortion in cases of rape then you're just hypocritical.)

so is ibo gonna go full 00 with tekkadan just getting fucking destroyed at the end

>>13963681
To bitch about it on /m/ of course! This is how I spend most of my Sundays.

How come nobody at anime sites bothers to point out these problems?

>>13963689
>I want to become hope.
It is already full 00.

>>13963675
> It starts at concepton you dolt
No it doesn't. Two(4/8/16/whatever) cells is no better than one. They're not a human. An 8-month old fetus is not a human. A newborn is not a human. Even a 3 year old is, arguably, still not a human. It's ok to dispose of them.

>>13963396
We're probably getting that segment at the end of 00 again where the bad guys have the MC's tech and the main characters are gonna win the battle, but get the shit kicked out of them and hopefully Tomino can show up to write the last episode and all those fucking death flags can get cashed.

>>13963687
So youll condone killing innocent life for the convinience of a woman? If she didn't want to have kids she should of had protection. So the mothers decision is more important the life of an unborn human.

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>>13963693
>Even a 3 year old is, arguably, still not a human.

>>13963693
... Okay, you're kind of fucking crazy. Not even the most ardent pro-abortion activists think that "the child is alive outside of his mothers womb" is not the cutoff point for life.

>>13963693
Then you are horrible human being.

>abortion debate on my /m/

If you are pro abortion at least admit thatyou are killing a human being doing that.

>>13963696
What if she did have protection and it failed? What if (as was mentioned in that post) she was raped or abused?

>>13963691
Because /m/ is the Warp and we don't have a chaos lord/champion or daemon prince to gut the Empire/Imperium soldiers/marines.

>>13963703
Then she should accept the consequences of her actions and at least give for adoption. You are justifying murder for someones convenience.

>>13963704
We need to make a pact with someone

>>13963707
... The consequences of getting raped?

Let's be clear here:
"Hello, I am a 13 year old girl. My father has been molesting and abusing me for years I told my mother and she did not believe me and then my father beat me. His actions finally resulted in a child being concieved. This is the result of my actions and so I deserve to be a literal baby factory for 9 months which can be painful or even life-threatening because of the 'consequence of my actions' of being born into an abusive household."

I come across this shit all the time at work and arguing that it is a child's fault that she didn't somehow magically stop her rapist is disgusting as fuck, you horrible shit.

>>13963712
>pact
No, just encourage someone that embodies /m/.

>>13963719
In the case or rape the victim should ve given support but the child should not pay for the sins of the father. Two wrongs dont make a right. There a tons of people who are willing to help and parents willibg to adopt.

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>off-topic debates in a thread about a mediocre anime
And this is why I love /m/

>>13963723
Be careful what you wish for, someone might actually take up the mantle.

>>13963733
>child should not pay
The child's not paying anything, it's not even fully formed or alive yet

>>13963719
The innocent child is not responsible for the rape performes by the parent. Women you talk about are understanbly emotional about the tradegy but if we will never find a solution if we just follow appeals to emotion over true rational and ethical solutuon.

>>13963661
Ein is an extremely loyal man, said what you want but in the end he did abandon his prey for the sake of Gali-gali and that almost got him killed, so yeah he put Gali live over his revenge that’s loyalty

>>13963745
It id alive and killing it is murder. At leadt admit that.

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>>13963679
>it's about as immoral as mashing a potato

>>13963749
No, it's not. Until it has a heartbeat, it's not murder.
Stop with all your appeals to emotion
>I-It's Alive!!! YOu're muredernG Miuh babeies!!
It's pathetic

>>13963712
Anyone except Duel, he can't convince a hobo to eat fresh pizza if his life depended on it.

>>13963748
Ein knows Gali is the hero that earth needs.

>>13963756
I think he dropped IBO.

>>13963755
Stop moving goal posts. Who are you tp decide that its not alive until it has a heartbeat. Those kinds of arguments never work because the same arguments can be made of the mentally ill or physically handicapped. Conception is the only real line we can draw. With your argument braindead people and people who are dependent on artifial hearts are not alive/people

>>13963766
>anyone with autism dropping things

>>13963762
If only the writers of the show knew this too.

>>13963746
So the mother is? You keep ignoring that. "Well, the child isn't responsible but the MOTHER well she deserves it."

What if the mother's life is at risk? Is the innocent child's life worth more or less than the mother's? Like, again, in the case of underage children it's actually rather dangerous for them to give birth, especially if they're poor or sick. Should she be obligated to risk her life to give birth to a child through no fault of her own?

>>13963770
I've seen autism, Duel on the other hand is a savage and probably rabid.

>>13963767
If there is no brain function how is a fetus any different from a potato? Unless you believe in shit like a soul then brain function is all there is to being human, the flesh is just a vessel for your mind. If there is no mind then there is no murder. Same with people who no brain activity and no hope of recovery. They're already dead and stopping the flesh from continuing is just a formality.

>>13963777
The only time abortion is permitted if mothers life is at risk. Thats the only time its ok like when the fetus imbeds in the fallopian tube. But if its perfectly healthy for the mother to carry to term abortion shouldnt be an option. Even pro life countries allow in most exteme cases because you save at least one. But every effort to keep the child alive should be made.

>>13963781
I always did see a little of myself in Skarbrand.

>>13963767
>With your argument braindead people and people who are dependent on artifial hearts are not alive/people
They are?

>>13963785
Your argument permits murder of brain dead individuals. Lack of certain functions should not stop a human life from being a person. That's the kind of argument Eugenisists use.

>>13963553
>So, about your brother
>Biscuit?!
>No, the other one. But you're not wrong, actually.

>>13963793
Yes they fucking are.

>>13963795
A brain dead person isn't a person. It's a sack of meat. The mind is what makes us human and without it the body is just a pile of meaningless flesh.

>>13963786
Why is it okay if the mother is at risk? You've already said her life and choices are worth less than the child's existence. She is not considered human enough to you to get to make decisions about her own body.

>>13963801
Not the ones with brain damage, no.

>>13963801
In what sense though? If there is no brain activity then what is the point of the body continuing to live?

>>13963712
I nominate He Who Must Not Be Named. The Forbidden Tripfag. Lord of the Wrong Opinions. You-Know-Who.

>>13963804
One it's not done because of convinced but to prevent 2 deaths. Rather have one die unfortunately then both. Also intent matters.

You know the big flaw about abortion that is being ignored also?

Banning it doesn't make it go away. It just means it's more dangerous. Someone who can't get access to abortion isn't going to shrug and decide maybe it isn't so bad. They're going to go find a less safe and illegal method that puts their lives at risk, or they're going to 'accidentally' fall down the stairs, or they're going to go for the countless other methods that exist and which legalized abortion helps prevent.

Unarguably some will decide to keep the child but others will die when it could have been prevented through clean, safe and professional abortions, and no matter how much you want to argue that is 'deserved,' a 13 year old with the product of rape and incest in her body doesn't deserve to die from a botched back-alley abortion because she feels so has no other choice.

>>13963806
They are still living human person. You seem to try to categorize what is human in weather they are working properly or not. Once you start to dehumanize a group of people, justification to kill them comes soon after. See most genocides in World history

>>13963815
This has never been a substantiated claim. No real statistics. In fact many countries that ban abortion have an program's that help expectant mothers.

>>13963811
Why? Or even better, what if the mother chooses to die. She is told she'll absolutely die if she gives birth but believes abortion is a sin. Should she be obligated to have an abortion? Why not? Why is she allowed to choose to die but can't choose to have an abortion?

>>13963815
People will still kill steal so might as well legalize it.