/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #856

Oh hey, awesome. PS3 decided to fuck up and eat the HD's file system. Welp, there goes any progress I had on 2nd OGs and Dark Prison.

I really would have thought we'd have a full PV1 by now. I guess we have to wait until another Famitsu article about the game to reveal some more pictures of stuff we'll see in the PV.

Also G Gen Genesis PV when?

>>13919722
Meanwhile children in Africa are starving.

>>13919731
And? They'd still have been starving had the PS3 not shat itself.

>>13919729
It took a week or two to get the first full Z3 PV after the Famitsu scans of Genion first popped up, IIRC. Remember that Famitsu usually leaks super early compared to when it actually shows up in stores, and thus about when the PV shows up.

Although it is kinda weird that they updated the site without adding a new PV too. I guess they might actually be waiting for another Famitsu release like you said.

>>13919731
You can't eat PS3s, don't be silly.

>>13919731
Too bad for them.

>>13919735
So, assuming we get another Famitsu article before a first PV, I'd say what content we'd get from that would be...Flickerei and Alteisen, a D mech, something villainous from GC, Psybuster, and then maybe something obscure to surprise us like the Choir Demonica or something.

>>13919758
I'd imagine Selena will show up if she's going to be relevant at all. As far as complete surprises go, I guess that could be anything. Maybe something new for Compatible Kaiser, or maybe AR-1?

The surprise is Lee is the main captain on the heroes' side this time

He redeemed himself by ramming Euzzeth

A while back there was a thread on /m/ that ran for writing srw porn and it linked to an outside page as an archive. I hadn't thought about (or been on /m/) in several years but does anyone know if that link is still available somewhere? I noticed Easymodo died so I don't know if there's even an archive of the threads anywhere anymore.

>>13919771
last second heroism doesn't redeem a shit character .

Like Hibiki's dad. Still a piece of shit and the redemption the show did was so forced and horribly paced

>>13919774
Desustorage has /m/ threads

>>13919774
Here's the link, but it's old as hell: http://m-erotica.blogspot.com/

One of my stories is on there and I'm ashamed of it now

The ever-animating gyre whom composes a solemn rhapsody unbeknownst to the human psyche has granted you two possible Fates:
You may enjoy a swim in a tub of pudding (flavor is entirely your choice) together with Alfimi, Xiaomo, and Suzuka, each clad in their birthday suits.
Or
You may become a cute girl, overwhelmed by sadness and pushed to tears, and have Gilliam brush away a single tear with his index finger

>>13919805
...do I get to make out with Gilliam afterwards

>>13919805
do I have to defend said pudding from Neptune?

>>13919808
No, but you get to share a cute little kiss.

>>13919783
Yeah but Lee isn't a shit character.

>>13919805
If I become a cute girl why can't I just join Ibis's harem?

>>13919783
Hibiki's dad was dead before the plot even started.

>>13919791
Oh, didn't know there was a new archive site! How far back does desustorage go, does it have the threads from 2005-2010ish there?

>>13919795
YES! Thanks a million, Anon.

And hey, no shame maybe it's your story I'm back to read six years later. Now the curiosity is killing me, who are you?

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>>13919820
>but Lee isn't a shit character.

>>13919823
Because Ibis isn't Gilliam.

>>13919824
Wrong Hibiki, pretty sure that anon is referring to Symphogear's.

>>13919820
Lee is literally just Sleigh with an even bigger chip on his shoulder somehow, and you fags only forgive Sleigh at all because you want to hatefuck her.

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>>13919824
wrong Hibiki, mate.

This Hibiki

>>13919831
yep

>>13919771
Isn't he dead...?

Or is he going to fuse with an Einst too and revive himself?

>>13919833
I should probably pick this show back up eventually.

>>13919832
Sleigh didn't cause anyone to die though

>>13919839
Which makes Lee even worse in comparison, on top of being a massive hypocrite

>>13919838
do it but be warned that GX gets lame halfway through

>>13919844
At least the GX Zesshoushinai are great.

>>13919848
haven't seen any of those

the art style is such a turn off

>>13919854
I bet you hate Kaiji too

>>13919854
You're complaining about a SD artstyle in a SRW thread?

>>13919844
I'll keep it in mind, good thing I torrented it a while back. I'll watch it after Kingu Gainer.

>>13919863
never seen it

>>13919865
at least those try to mimic the original style.

but to go from >>13919129 to >>13917923 is jarring

Gong event
Lee
Bian
Rai's dad
Leona's old squad members
Filio
Cheerful Survivor
Tempest
That one guy from the School

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still no pv?

>>13919885
possibly guys from Las Gaias (Masaki's dad, Fail Lord)
Alberto
possibly Catellya?

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>>13919885
>>Cheerful Survivor
>Survivor
>die

>>13919905
He's a dead man walking anon, we can't have the crying survivor if the cheerful survivor is still alive

>>13919708
>He's always sideline in the plot though

Except K and SC2. Where he's the main SEED Destiny person around.

>>13919882
> I hate fun.

>>13919906
Silly anon, Selena already has her theme

If it wasn't for Aile Chevalier being on the cover, I'd be hoping that this go-around with D, we'd get to have Ganador and Strega as individuals that upgraded to Gigas, and reverse the 2ndOGs situation.

>>13919882
It's a fucking comedy DVD extra, man.

>>13919928
He's still going to die along with the other guy for the sack of backstory, and for the Gong event

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>>13919929
>Aile Chevalier on the cover

MASAKA, Perfectio II?

Literally despair route

>>13919938
Cheerful Survivor, anon. He's gonna live.

>>13919950
He's dead Selena's the star of @3 for OG he's going to die

Perfectio is too good to be used only once

He will be back as Beowulf

>>13919953
Gonna live, anon. We don't know a damn thing about OG's version of Alpha 3 yet and OG isn't known for playing its adaptations of events out exactly like the source

>>13919972
Not being exactly the same doesn't mean everything is gonna be different.

Your big brown husbando is doomed anon, you're only making it more painful for yourself.

>>13919984
Albarda didn't even exist in Alpha 3, so there's no reason for him to kick the bucket.

>>13919984
>Giado never dies
>live happily ever after fucking Garnet

wew

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I wanted to make more units do the pose but making one took too much time already.

>>13920004
What fucking post is that

>>13920003
He was such a bad pilot too. Truly a ray of hope for all the grunts out there. Except for Russel. He has to die.

>>13920009
Looks like a jumping-out-of-the-way-in-the-knick-of-time-in-a-comedic-fashion pose.

>>13920016
looks like he is about to do a gymnast dive

or a ballerina pose

>>13919994
He's mentioned as one of the deceased in @3

>>13919984
Just gonna have to wait and see.

>>13920009
It's the "The fish was THIS big!" pose.

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>>13920004
well done, anon

DASH DASH>Theme of Tetsuya>Brave Mazinger

>>13920035
Selena's route was the one I got the least progress in back when I played @3, what was it that offed her team anyway, if it was explained?

Whether it was or wasn't explained, what's Albarda going to jump in the way of so that things can go Ocher again, so to speak?

>>13920009
"Ballin' erryday nigga"

>>13919709
Ryusei is cute! Cute!

>>13919731
the neo DC killed them all off long ago

>>13920052
They just did it for reasons all we know is that Selena is the only survivor in her team aside from Elma and she wants revenge against Spectre who killed her team

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>>13920052
>what was it that offed her team anyway, if it was explained?

Spectra

>>13920052
Reading back Selena and her team were sent on a secret mission against the Jews, Spectra/Spectre fought them killed everyone but Selena because of Elma, and wanted revenge against her

>>13920104
>and wanted revenge against her

and wrecked Viletta in the process

Does Suzuka ever do any proper dancing or is it all waving her fan around and swaying her hips?

>>13920151
Can you repeat the question?

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>>13920159
I mean, it's sexy, but it'd be nice if she moved around more rather than just doing it all in one place.

>>13920149
Not her fault Spectre decided to copy her twin sister's looks

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>>13919825
I'm artificial handjobs anon. I'm less ashamed of the porn and more that I could write something so much better now.

>>13920207
The sign of being a good writer is looking on all your past work with revulsion and "I could do better".

Well, one of the signs.

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>>13920207
Wow, you really were exactly why I was looking for that archive.
>I could write something so much better now
You should definitely do that then.

>>13920235
Sounds like me, though I do that during the writing process as well. Not very productivity-effective there.

>>13919885
Kai

>>13919885
MX guys

>>13920269
Who?

Bad guys can't be redeemed

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>>13920235
The hardest part is figuring out what I need to change to improve now. I can write something, feel it's off, but not know how to fix it to make it better. It's incredibly frustrating.

>>13920238
Oh wow, what a coincidence! I'll see what I can do! I have something I'm working on, but it's stalled...and incest. I'll see if I can get somewhere with it tomorrow.

>>13920275
Foglia and Albero

>>13920282
Oh man I look forward to it then. I'm also happy to see some of my favourite parts of /m/ are still around. I knew I'd get sucked in even if I came back looking for one damn link and I can't even be mad.

>>13920282
Ugh, yeah, I know that feeling. My writing is all incredibly mechanical, I can get the emotions down but the delivery just doesn't work.

Which sucks because my sister is a fucking amazing writer and I got absolutely none of that.

>>13919805
None, I want a giant robot dinosaur.

>>13920362
You talking like Zeke, or like Golgol?

>>13920362
OG Power Rangers-like mechs in OG fucking when?

>>13920430
I dunno if Banpresto likes Sentai very much. The only one of the series to get into Super Toku Wars was the first one, and it was apparently 100% shit.

>>13920430
>SRX now becomes a fucking dinosaur instead of the personification of Banpresto

>>13920435
They sure like their powered armors, but OG is certainly lacking classic multimech combiners, sentai or not.

>>13920438
>Ban-Rex

>>13920440
>OG is certainly lacking classic multimech combiners, sentai or not.

Yeah, it is.

Hell, how many proper combiners do we have in the current franchise? Unit + Support Craft not counted. Off the top of my head...

>SRX and Banpreios
>Valguard and Valzacard
>Forte Gigas
>Glitter Falsaber
>Altairion, sort of?
>Ryukouoh/Kouryuoh/Shin versions of those.

Super Earthgain doesn't count for the same reasons the later Virgolas don't count.

>>13920440
Can't have anything potentially upstaging the SRX in pure combiner superiority, after all.

>>13920435
I'm surprised SRC doesn't have more on it, either. SRC Dungeon has none of the mecha features, and even the giant databank for SRC in general only has so many Sentai--and Riders for that matter--listed and stat-ed. You'd think that'd be something they'd keep up on.

>>13920446
>unit + support craft
Does that Grungust from 2nd OGs count? I should probably assign 2 people in that thing.

>>13920446
Solverius Rex

>>13920448
>Can't have anything potentially upstaging the SRX in pure combiner superiority, after all.

The classic multi-combiners either had something so ridiculously good that they could have been less piloted and still been great (see also: Shin Voltes having fucking Soul, or the various Dancougas, or the SRX itself), or they relied solely on their massive SP banks to be good.

>>13920452
Oh right, the Type 3s were two machine combiners. Well, there's that, then.

Also K's main machine.

>>13920452
>>13920457
>Type 3
It's bullshit how that thing never got an open get skill. Seems like a no brainer.

So what happened to Bamco? Why are they announcing everything in English now?

Are we going to get old games

>>13920496
>Are we going to get old games
Yes and the first one they'll translate is Alpha.For the dreamcast. ON the dreamcast

>>13920446
>>Altairion, sort of?

Altarion isn't a combiner, but Hyperion sure is.

>>13920511
>Alpha
Don't remind me

Fucking Gideon

>>13920511
Hooray, the old DC swap disc finally sees the light of day again.

Seriously though if they do remake @1 I do hope they at least add some of the stuff that DC included.

>>13920529
I forget what did the DC version add in? My friend is actually playing through the game on his dreamcast and he's never played the Playstation Alpha so he wouldn't know.

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On the Mission to get 100 Crstyal's, on X-Omega.
We do need something with 3...

1) No Units shoot down.
2) ?? 3 ??
3) ?? 3 evade ??

Cheer's to anyone who can help.

>>13920512
Gah, meant Hyperlion. And I said sort of because I don't know if Vegalion counts as "support craft" or not.

>>13920538
Soul does 2.5x
Damage formula is slightly crazier
You get to fight Shu

>>13920543
2nd one has to do with 3 shooters on your team or something and the last all I can get out of it is shooters again.

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>>13920550
Whoa wait. It won't let me try the mission.

>>13920561
Need less than5 units

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>>13920565
Whoops. Figured that out on accident.

>>13920543
Win with no allies shot down
Win using a team of more than 3 shooter images (parts? I don't know the context)
Win by having your shooter use its finisher 3 times

>>13920589
So its a team of 3 shooter units. Got it, thanks.

>>13920538
Combo attacks, some new units (I think), and a stretch of new stages after the old finale, which includes basically what became @3's Eva finale, and murdering Shu and Neo Granzon like >>13920546 said, and also some balancing that's pretty common to the series already.

>>13920605
>I think

You're right. They're from G-Breaker, there's a new Gundam unit, a new Dunbine unit, a thing that's sort of like Soul Lancer, and... I think one other thing?

I'd post pics from the guidebooks but I have to sleep now.

>>13920610
Cloud Breaker, Impulse 7, and the new gendum and dunbine machines are the only G-Breaker stuff I can recall.

I also wanna say some non-G-Breaker stuff was new, since I don't recall getting to keep Britai's ship in the PS1 release.

Also you get to keep Astranagant long enough to upgrade it. It still keeps its silly 40k HP, and it is glorious.

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Surprised I managed to find this while I was out and about at my local Best Buy. Best 17.99 I spent.

>>13920622
Is there any of The Inspector in there, or is it all Divine Wars and/or the OVA?

>>13920625
Nah, just this. Infact, it was the last copy they had in their lackluster anime section.

Should I set BGM to pilot or mech in 2nd OGs, since it doesn't have custom?

>>13920656
Always mech. In fact, it should be the default option. Later on you'll get combining mechs and if you don't set it to mech, the music doesn't changes, which is bullshit.

>>13920656
>>13920663
Can't you change what each pilot and mech's chosen theme is?

>>13920671

Yes but they have to be set individually.

Mech gives more options though because it includes transformations as a separate track

Wierd, DP Mix doesn't let me equip an item to SRX, and now maxing out his upgrades maxes out R1-3 too.

Do the equips on them transfer to him when they combine? And what is SRX's FUB now?

>>13919885
Ouka
Wodan
Josh's un-Perfectio'd dad (Ventus and Cliana, too?)
Altis
Jurgen?
Van
Lily
Feil
Kirks
DAITETSU (how could you forget him?!)
Elzam's wife
Echdina?
Lemon
Taihou and fox guy? (Not Kanan, of course)

>>13920940
Isn't foxdude still alive? Mostly due to having the good sense to not hop out in a machine and get flattened.

Also
>Altis
>no Alkaid

Fatty and Drill Guy can stay fucked off.

Which SRW has the best animations?

>>13921013
Probably 2nd OGs/DP, simply due to not having to blow money on licensing series and music.

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>>13920009
You don't watch Osomatsu, anon?

>>13921028
>Osomatsu
I thought that was some new Doraemon anime with Nobita as lead
>Ono D
>Fukujun
>Kamiyan
>Nakamura
>Takagi Wataru
>Inoue Kazuhiko
>Suzumura
Well I shall now

https://youtu.be/yXXTJaTuP7o?t=202

>>13921130
T A D A
A
D
A

>>13921170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axGxweYJ-SI

>>13920035
He wasn't. They mention one other guy who doesn't follow the og naming pattern (Serena, Albada, Sinfonia)

>>13920052
Team Hierba were sent on MISSION DOLL. The objective was to retrieve Irui, so they clashed with Gora Golem who had the same objective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgQc9voQ9Tw

Daily reminder, SRX A SHIT

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You said there would be a PV /srwg/.

Where is my PV?

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>>13921328
We lied

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>>13921333
KISAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>13919709
Is the plot the same with all characters in Alpha 1? Other than the Real/Super route split.

>>13921348
Very minor details change according to the archetypes

Will Burrito spill even more pasta next game?

>>13921364
Kinda hard to spill pasta when you're technically dead

>>13921367
That won't happen yet though.

>he thinks they are doing the alpha storyline straight
>he believes there won't be s in og games
>he thinks the game will be out before June
>he calls Ingram a Time Diver
>he thinks Fu-Lu won't die
>he thinks Coustwell will be plot relevant

>>13921398
>s
Meant to type z.

>>13921253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBcCu9pbPd0&t=418

Albada mentioned right there

PV when does it happen?

>>13921403
Hm... I was pretty sure they had only mentioned Nocturne.

In any case cheerful survivor refers to the fact he lost Jessica when Shu destroyed the Shirogane.

http://www.4gamer.net/games/331/G033105/20160223026/

They're still releasing this information this week in other magazines. Let's hope for new scans next week.

>>13921426
They already put up the stuff on Suparobo since Monday

http://srwog-md.suparobo.jp/character/

http://srwog-md.suparobo.jp/mechanic/

All the things marked NEW

>>13921431
I'm well aware of that, but they are still publishing that information in other magazines as if it were new.

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>>13921427
ADOBENTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>13921427
Your 4900 armor doesn't really mean much when I have Shinka, Fagvent.

>>13921427

Most fabulous final boss ever.

>>13921427
fuck this gay faggot

>>13920778
>Do the equips on them transfer to him when they combine
Yes, or at least the first 4

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>>13921512
>4 items on SRX

>>13921503
He's genderless

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>>13921528

>>13921567

Sexhair is literally perfect.

>>13921567
Burrito sure loves Sexhair

>>13921567
He's right, you know.

>>13921548
Looks male enough to be a faggot.

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Of all things to see in /srwg/, Amagami?
Who /chinagirl/ here?

>>13921528
This is retarded.

>>13921587

Sexhair, WOW, and Nii-Nii for life.

https://www.youtube.com/user/nbgi/videos

>More than 1 month since teaser PV

So now that Capcom's milking RE for all its worth, it's about time we get @ HD collection, Z HD collection and OGs The Whole Saga;

>>13921634

Do they still have the assets for those games?

>>13921638
I never cared for Sugita but this show really made me like him.

He's such a dork.

>>13921634
You're talking about Lazypresto, they don't even have enough staff to make new games let alone report everything to a HD collection

>>13921638
I know I have the lewd version of this somewhere.

>>13921644
How lewd are we talking?

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>>13921651

Enough so that I fall under the curse of being unable to find it when I have a reason to post it

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>>13921672
Nevermind I found it on a different driver

>>13921503
That's just what he wants though

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>still no voice actress info
bah

>>13921711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_wyaHeJ-e8

>>13921761
Calvina will be voiced by Yukana

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>>13921761
Fire Emblem was never good.

>>13921790
Was anything?

While on the wait for MD, and looking at old videos for OGs and OGG, I'd kind of like to play them again sometime, but don't have the means to dust off the PS2 sitting...wherever it is.

Anybody in the know got advice for potential PS2 emulation of those, and potentially some of the other PS2 SRWs I might get around to? And more importantly can I cheat or save edit so things aren't too much of a slog?

>>13921805
yes
>>13921809
yes

>>13921790
It peaked at 4 but everything after is bad

>>13921779
>The slut that slept with the voice director for Four's role in the Zeta movies

NOPE.AVI

>>13921642

They could simply outsource the ports (and only ports because remastering is too much for lazypresto) to somebody else in the case of the PS2 titles and just give download codes for the PSN for the PSX games.

>>13921820
RUMORED to have slept with him. We have no proof of that.

>>13921845
In today's age, rumors are enough proof.

>>13921711
Who are we expecting to cast her?

>>13921874
I want Yoshiko Sakakibara .

>>13921853

This isn't Persona 2

>>13921874
KanaHana

>>13921845
She's a slut, period

She went into hiding after the scandal broke out, if you were innocent you won't run away

>>13921895
>She went into hiding after the scandal broke out

No she didn't, she landed the role of CC and it caused her popularity to skyrocket and drown out the rumors about her.

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Is OE worth playing until the end? I heard it has fuckton of stages through all 8 chapters.

>>13921905
I still haven't played through until the end, by Chapter 6 you just get bogged down because literally every stage is INFINITE REINFORCEMENTS INFINITE REINFORCEMENTS INFINITE REINFORCEMENTS

>>13921908
Is it worth spending time on?

>>13921905
Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>13921915
Uh...

There's thing about OE that I liked. It has some concepts that are really good, and as an improvement over Neo it succeeds, so if you really like Neo you'll really like what happened to its systems in OE.

The game as a whole is really poorly planned and implemented though. Much like Shin, its key problem is that it just gets BORING eventually.

>>13921905
After chapter 5 you get almost no new content. That's 3 really long chapters fighting the same enemies with the same units on the same maps with almost no new things to see.

>>13921927
>>13921930
Well, i guess i'l pass then. I have not completed a single SRW title in my life, starting with OE would be a bad idea if it gets this repetitive.

>>13921905
I'd say no.

The first 2 chapters are fun, even if it's mostly UC material. Levels are still low so there's none of that level difference penalty bull shit (being 5 levels lower makes your units deal 25% less damage and take 25% more, being 10 levels lower increases those values to 100%), and you basically see the really good parts about OE. Chapter 3 is okay, but if you've been ignoring some units this is where you'll start seeing the issues.

Chapter 4 and 5 is where it starts going to shit. Tons of enemies appearing in "Stacks" (basically multiples of the same unit in a single group, which in practice literally means nothing but one unit getting 3 or 4 times its HP), bosses with ridiculous amounts of health who regenerate it multiple times, EC (the second resource used for upgrades and item creation) costs start becoming so high that you'll end up sitting on piles of cash you can't use and keeping everyone leveled up gets harder and harder as you get more and more units (by the way, you have THREE groups of Votoms units to work with). But hey, you still get some neat units to play around with, even some good surprises.

Chapters 6, 7 and 8 are borefests and there's pretty much nothing interesting in them. No surprises, just the same problems you had in chapters 4 and 5 except even worse.

You can give it a shot at the very least, but you'll probably want to give up on it halfway.

>>13921940
>I have not completed a single SRW title in my life
Are you me from a bizarro universe? I play the ones I've cleared at least 6 times apiece.

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Who's this semen demon?

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>>13921968
Her sex slave.

>>13921968
Could we please stop with the DAILY DOSE shit? You're never going to be the next meme, man, don't bother.

>>13921959
Really, a lot of OE's problems can be chalked up to wanting to stretch it as ungodly long as possible so they can sell it in parts and that stupid level curve gimmick (that's probably also there so they can sell you XP boosters).
In other words, they wanted our shekels so much it destroyed the game.

>>13921983
> they wanted our shekels so much it destroyed the game.
That is a great way of putting it.

>>13921959
>which in practice literally means nothing but one unit getting 3 or 4 times its HP)

And they can Support Attack themselves. Can't forget that fucking thing.

>>13921983
Of course, even if you do always have the 2x things, that shit STILL happens, it just starts later, because the EXP to level up requirements get absolutely ridiculous (apparently the exponential growth gets majorly slashed after Level 75, but at that point who even cares?) and the EC growth never stops being dumb.

I replayed all of Chapter 3 after I finished it and most of Chapter 2 for Akurasu, by the point I'm at in 6 I'm now on level despite doing EVERYTHING.

>>13922013
>And they can Support Attack themselves
Can they Attack Again? And then Support Attack their Attack Again and then Attack Again in their Support Attack? to which they Support their Attack Again to Attack Again and Support it?

>>13922013
>apparently the exponential growth gets majorly slashed after Level 75
No, it gets worse. It takes 1.3 billion exp or something like that to reach level 200.

>>13921976
But that's wrong & besides, once you get all the Js back from route split you can swap subpilots

>>13922044
>wrong
no anon
it is you who have strayed from the path

>>13921874
Toyoguchi. Or maybe Kobayashi, I guess.

>>13922013
>And they can Support Attack themselves.
At least you get double EXP when they try to do that.

As a result, VOTOMs grunts are wonderful EXP pinatas, even though they hit harder than they have any right to.

>>13922053
Nope, you're the one that strayed from the path

Touya will have 3 girls harems & Calvina will have Al-Van

>>13922076
I refuse your interpretation of events.

Touya gets to sit at the bottom of the cast list at level 5, Al-Van gets to sit at the bottom of a ravine, and Calvina gets all the bitches (and Fu-Lu).

But all of that is merely an audition to be allowed entrance into the kingdom of Ibis.

>>13922084
IBIS A SHIT

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>>13922094
you're dead to me anon

>>13922094
Everyone is shit

>>13922101
Except Ryuune.

>>13922103
Ryune a turd

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I don't get everyone's boner for Ibis, she must be the worst OG. And before getting Hyperion she's useless
I wish I could switch her hyperion seat with Sleigh

>>13922120
>Not kicking Yuuki's boring out of the Laz Angriff in OG2 and putting Ibis in there instead

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>>13922115
You best step off with my waifu pal

>>13922125
you're waifu a shit
A SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

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>>13922135
You have no room to talk

>>13922120
Going by my luck?
No sir, worst OG is Kyosuke, who's Focus is a waste of time in both contentions and has the armor of a Ford Siesta which has a fondness for receiving critical hits.
I admit freely this is due to my RNG being some kinda laughing freak, but I've never seen Ibis shot down unless it was a forced cutscene.
Not once.
Not with shit stats against an Inspector, not against Sleigh, not against Gan Eden.

>>13922139
>Getting shot down ever

>>13922135
fuck off seiba

>>13922139
I never even saw Ibis get hit in 2ndOG and literally the only time I upgraded her was 4 bars in mobility and accuracy and 2 bars in weapons super early game. I didn't upgrade her again until like the last 5 stages.

>>13922138
>only slut got the public ban

I'm giggling

>>13922139
Protip, if you aren't played the GBA games where skill slots are stupidly limited, give Kyosuke like 3-4 levels of Prevail early on and max it out later. He'll take maybe one hit and then be effectively untouchable for the rest of the stage.

>>13922152
>using Kyosuke intentionally

>>13922160
It's almost like someone can play SRW without developing an overblown hateboner for any pilots or something

>>13922170
You know that' snot possible.

I'm sorry for it anyway, I only wanted to post what the cool kids post all the time. I actually don't mind him at all.

MD better allow me to buy Attacker skill and SP regen

>>13922218
I just want Dash. I cannot deal with having 5 or 6 movement anymore.

>>13922218
WTF did they remove those from OG2nd for?

>>13922221

they break the game and basically railroad you towards buying it for EVERY unit

>>13922221
To make the game more interesting.

>>13922218
Please no.
>>13922221
So they wouldn't be the first two skills you bought for every character in the game. Same goes for Infight and Gunfight: they're such better uses of skill slots than any competing skills that most of the others might as well not even exist.

Of course, it had the side effect that Soulgain went from okay to god tier because of Axel having Attacker, but I'm fine with that.

>>13922152
>kyosuke
>untouchable

Is this bizarro srw again? He has one of the lowest dodge stats, the alteisen has a barely decent mobility and prevail only helps to make him slightly tankier, and the alteisen doesn't exactly have the HP of actual tank units

>>13922239
Prevail raises more than just armor, dipshit

>>13922229
That's just gay man

Limiting what players want to do to enjoy the game

>>13922247
If anything it's forcing you to make more choices since you won't have two skill slots always locked down by Attacker and SP Regen (or Mental Focus if their spirit list is expensive as fuck) on every single pilot.

>>13922229
>that most of the others might as well not even exist
That's how it goes in a lot of games with customizable skillsets. Some skills are just fucking garbage space-filler shit that the devs added to make it seem like the skill list was bigger than it really was.

>>13922221
2nd OGs toned down the enemies enough that it wasn't a big loss. The pair system being the default but still letting you split them up into solos means you have twice as many full-powered Valored finishers against the 6-digit bosses at the end of the game. And you can still afflict bosses with ailments if you cast Direct Hit beforehand.

>>13922229
Then make it super expensive or whatever, but the option should still exist if you happen to have an ace who's drowning in PP he deserve the Attacker skill.

The loss of Attacker on everyone is MORE than made up for by having all weapons finally fucking upgrade at the same time

>>13922245

I know, retard. But it helps kyosuke as much as it helps task and giganscudo to dodge

>>13922274
Even the normal Alt in OG2/OGs2, where it's nerfed to hell compared to OG1, hits 133 Mobility and 2160 armor at max upgrades. If you somehow can't keep him alive even with less upgrades than that you're a fucking retard.

>>13922034
I thought it worked like Pokemon's Erratic EXP group, where it still goes up but the rate it goes up at is slashed?

>>13922067
Didn't they patch that?

Also, reminder that EXP gain was cut in half soon after OE's release.

>>13922272
There's also more PP available per playthrough due to better enemy density and higher yield, so it's easier to raise your stats. I went through OGG seven times and my starting PP was only around 2400-2500.

>Having difficulty using Ibis in OG2nd
I don't understand how that's possible, Ibis + Masaki shits all over EX and then when you get out she's decent enough for the time period between 25 and 44 compared to most people due to not having to eat up a part slot to get around the Water spam and decent movement.

>>13922288
>due to not having to eat up a part slot to get around the Water spam
But most people that are decent can fly by the time OG2 comes around. There's not exactly a ton of competition for Tesla Drives, the Alt and R-Gun could maybe use them but that's about it. I don't recall ever needing to use a Water Jet outside of the first couple of stages of OG2.

>>13922264
If someone's drowning in PP just dump points into their stats or something. Hell you can even max out people's innate Prevail/Counter or something.

All OG really needs to do is have 8 skill slots and some of the funner skills from Z3.

>>13922272
I haven't played recent og games. Did they deleted equippable weapons?

>>13922298
OG2nd aka we nerfed almost everyone's flight ranks while leaving their water ranks the same. Not OG2 GBA.

>>13922302
Then call it the right name

>>13922300
Nope, and unfortunately they're still upgraded separately for some reason and so are only good for filling in holes in some Real's movelists. They really need to make it so equipped weapons just inherit the upgrade level of whatever unit you equip them to.

>>13922300
No, equippable weapons are still in. They just made it so that all of a unit's natural weapons upgrade at once. You still have to upgrade equippables naturally, and then they nerfed the attack power so they're not quite as useful as they were. The trusty machinegun is now 2000->4200 instead of 2300->4800.

>>13921905
I will never not be mad about getting to the 6th chapter and the game up and deleting the entire save file on me for seemingly no reason at all. And then my comp's graphics card died so I likely won't even be able to play it again to get back to there.

It's cursed I tell you.

>>13922305
OG2nd/2ndOG is what we've been call it all the time.

You should have been able to figure out what I've been talking about from context clues alone anyway.

>>13922302
>OG2nd aka we nerfed almost everyone's flight ranks while leaving their water ranks the same.

Yeah but thanks to you getting the unique unit FUB, there's no real reason to not get S rank in Sky if they're a flight unit.

>>13922247
>Limiting what players want to do to enjoy the game
They have to, the core gameplay is so weak that they don't have any choice.

>>13922323
>FUB
>Relevant before the ass end of the game or NG+ without favoritism

>>13922320
Now I'm kinda glad that the next game is MD to make it easier to bring up.

>>13922329
I FUB'd at least four units on my first run of 2ndOG

>>13922323
Only on the Gespenst Mk2-M Kais (I use N Frame because 7 movement), Dygenguard, Compatikaiser, and Excellence Rescue. Everyone else gets Move+1 due to no Dash skill.

>>13922329

There's no point to spreading out upgrades snce the whole thing can be beaten without any. You might as well just pump all into the units that are forced deploys the most.

What units best to FUB for OG2nd?

>>13922344
The ones you like the most.

>>13922338
I give everyone who doesn't need something else an S rank in space to maximize damage against the final boss. Unless their finisher has an S in space anyways.

>>13922344

As long as it isn't a grunt it's money well spent.

>>13922339
>>13922336

Most of the FUBs weren't really worth the money dump since the bonuses are pretty lackluster in most cases.

>>13922349
Did the terrain FUB affect weapons in 2nd OGs?

>>13922350
Good thing there almost isn't any in 2nd OG.
And if you say the Gespensts then you are silly.

>>13922276
OG2 Alt has better base stats than OG1 Alt though?

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>MD is based on J
>they bring back J's "S rank on everything" powerups

>>13922363
Out of all the units in 2nd OGs, the MP Huckebein, the fucking plane that nobody would ever use (blame it on the lack of P missiles), AM Gunner, and R-Blade Custom are the only ones that are an absolute waste of money even in Special Mode. The R-Machines still have their combo attack, although you have access to the SRX from stage 24 to the end of the game so...I guess that's just a personal preference thing.

>>13922362
Pretty sure it did. That's just my usual policy in SRW in general. The more recent games having custom bonuses for each unit plus a generic FUB has been great.

>>13922368
Base no, fully upgraded is actually slightly better than OG1 Alt by like 2 mobility and 50 armor.

Which doesn't matter much when enemy grunts in OG2, besides Einst, get ridiculous stats and S-Ranks everywhere by the time you finally get the Reise.

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>1st episode
>Already kill every cute girls to make way for homolust

>>13922382
I don't see why you'd need the extra 10% attack power from the S terrain considering you have anywhere from 30-40 actions against bosses. Euzeth might have 452,000 HP, but that's 16-25 hits depending on who you upgraded, even on your first 2 playthroughs before 15 upgrades.

>>13922401
Killing girls to make way for homolust is a proud tradition of Japanese fiction that stretches back hundreds of years. Oh, god. I hope you didn't take that seriously!

>>13922414
It's not a matter of need anon, it never is in SRW. If I only did what was NEEDED I wouldn't upgrade anything at all. I upgrade because I like big numbers and one-shotting grunts and one-turning bosses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx7kJjsRZX4

Why is this the best real of all time?

>>13922433
I'm worse than you about liking big numbers, dood, but I feel like in a game like 2nd OGs, where you still see shit with 5 and 6 movement, Move+1 is a better choice as a FUB in most cases because I try to get everyone up to at least 7 movement. Because there's no SP Regen I try not to spend it until the last 5-10% of the stage, so I'm not using Accel to get across the map except in a few extreme cases like Stage 47, where you start on the ass-end of the map and need to clear a path and run interference for Josh and Rim.

>Banpresto will never take Fates Conquest and reskin it with robots

i just wanted...some mission objectives...in SRW...

>>13922491
SRW has more mission variety now than modern FE does, what are you talking about.

>>13922450
I just pair anyone with movement below 6 with an Accelslut or slap some parts on them, I'd rather take more damage than more movement.

If I need someone to get somewhere fast I've got plenty of units already suited for the job, no need to funnel a ton of resources into the fatasses (which there aren't even many of, so you have plenty of parts to go around) to speed them up a bit.

>>13922491
I suggest that you... actually play... the games.

>>13922491
>Route the enemy
>Route the enemy
>Seize

>>13922494
You mean OG has more mission variety because of SR Points.

The handheld games are pretty boring.

>>13922494
SRW regulates everything interesting to skill points, not actual mission objectives. also the maps are pretty boring. Banpresto taking a lesson from Winkysoft and making stage actions affect route splits would be a huge improvement to pick a route in a menu

>>13922531

Isn't that what we were talking about?

>>13922531
Someone's never played 2ndOG, or Dark Prison

Dark Prison had some real weird objectives

>>13922540
>SRW regulates everything interesting to skill points, not actual mission objectives.
Did you play Dark Prison? Chapter 5 is the only mission in a srw where I actually had to ask here what to do simply to beat it, not even getting the SP.

>>13922494
>more mission variety
oh yes
We have moved up into :
>Kill everything except this guy
>Don't kill anything for like, six turns, THEN kill everything
>Move everyone across the map because the plot says you can't beat the enemy

I'm not asking for a Tactics Ogre level of branching buggery, although that would be kinds sweet too.
Then again, I don't think SRW could handle becoming legitimately grimpderp.

Original SRW had more variety, what with EX's route variations and such, but you never see that anymore.

>>13922544
OG2nd's objectives were boring as fuck what are you talking about. The variety was in the SR points which got lazy as fuck in the end.

Besides, I already said that most of the interesting conditions were stuck in OG anyway.

>>13922549

You forgot
>escort a unit across the map
>don't let enemies cross a defense line

>>13922556
And
>Escort a braindead NPC ship with no weapons across the map

>>13922554
>The variety was in the SR points

Most of 2nd OGs's SR points are either "defeat enemies by this turn" or "defeat an enemy that runs away at this threshold". I'm playing right now and that's the majority.

>>13922556
>don't let enemies cross a defense line
The worst variant was where they only give you 4 new (but shit) units fighting enemies that are on terrain that your units suck at that.

>>13922556
>>13922571
The Macross 7 one in Alpha 3 confused the fuck out of me since you had to let them all cross the line

>>13922549
Tactics Ogre wasn't very exciting in terms of win cons for stages since they were all Rout or Defeat Boss. Featuring the odd guest.

The protect Cerya/Selye stage in 3N was probably the most frustrating one on a whole.

>>13922564
Which is still slightly more exciting than almost every stage being defeat boss or rout since now you have an extra gimmick to go on the chapter.

>>13921687
>That vagina hood

Yo.

>>13922587

Im surprised it took 5 hours for someone to notice that.

>>13922591
I'm the guy who asked how lewd it was. It took me 5 hours to come back and see.

I'm gonna stick to the old style.

Go back to being who I once was, not the monster I ended up becoming.

How you doing my fellow /srwg/ posters?

Any updates on The Moon Dwellers? I'm really looking forward to that game.

Beyond that, tell me about any recent SRW experiences you have.

>>13922581
The mission conditions were bog-standard.
But most of the stages had each some kinda hidden clause that affected something else down the road.

>>13922600
>Most of the missions
Maybe like 1 or 2 per chapter except for 4 since all of the routes merged in the end.

>>13922556
So that one stage in Tengoku when you get Gunbuster, the bonus objective was reduce the ships to less than like 500 before they cross the line. What was the actual objective then, let the cross the line?

>>13922507
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Do the girls really comment on Noriko's pubes in Z3 or you guys were just fucking around?

>>13922598
What, did that Ingram infodump from the other day hit you particularly hard or something?

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>>13922598
No new MD stuff yet, soon maybe. Website finally updated the chara data for the female protagonist.

As for me I have returned to the mid-game slog that is Alpha 2 after a long hiatus.
Fretting over dialogue choices I can't understand anyway.

>try searching for Heroman in the archives
>most recent stuff is always the SRW thread
I don't really want to open a thread so, did you guys like it? I'm watching it right now and it's very enjoyable even if cliche

>>13922721
It's pretty fun, still haven't finished it. Probably should

>>13922721
It's fun. Not the most amazing of shows, but very likeable.
Really didn't deserve those... rather noteworthy sales it got.

>>13922721
It's okay. Definitely a style over substance.
Really the show would be absolute rubbish if the art in general wasn't carrying it.

>>13922758
The sales absolutely baffle me. It was a porn giant when it was airing.

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>>13921453
>>13921427

>>13922721
I somehow finished it even though I never really thought it was good, but I liked the MC and Heroman

>>13922606
>What was the actual objective then, let the cross the line?
I can't remember if the stage ends early if they all reach the bottom of the map. If you make them all retreat by getting them to 500 HP or less, you can then defeat all the other enemies.

>>13922721
DR. MINAMI a best villain, MAGNETS a best power.

>>13922758
How noteworthy are we talking?

>>13922845

Made for rape

>>13922761
>porn giant
What?

>>13922845
I'm not one to complain about anatomy and proportions but something looks off with that left thigh.

>>13922860
Japan made a lot of porn for it when it was airing.

A lot.

>>13922646
I could never bring myself to get back into Alpha 2.

It's just so slow.

It's kind of in a weird place where some of the older games are just easier and faster to play through.

>>13922894

I beat it...I want to say twice. I'm actually not sure if I got all the way through Kusuha's route, but I definitely did Sanger's.

>>13922894
I dropped my Sanger run at the CCA finale
To many bosses onscreen so I got lazy and dropped it. I still want to finish it and do Ibis and Kusuha's routes

>>13922894
I want to do it at least once.
Just cause I hear things like the CCA finale are so good.
My fault for playing Alpha 3 first out of all of them really.

>>13922894
I actually dropped Alpha 2 after doing Char's Nightingale stage.

No real reason, just stopped playing.

>>13922598
Just finished Alpha 2 a week ago and recently finished J for the 2nd time (Touya). Rn Im playing OG1 gba for the 2nd time cause I wanted to try it out without cheating thise time (Max weapon bars and pilot and unit stats)

>>13922305
not only did he name it in a perfectly understandable way but he also talked about the starting EX stages with ibis

https://youtu.be/ZFsbEgQy9r0