How did we go from this..

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..to this?

Microwaves, mainly.

>>13902893
but gamma rays

>>13902890
Hey, the blonde one got some free breast augmentation.

>>13902927

Seems quite surprised by it.

>BUT THEY'RE SHOOOOOOOOOOOOO BIG NOW!

my most depressing boner yet

W-what is this

>>13902889
>>13902890
What a waste of bridge bunnies.

TETSUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>13904350
Fukada indulging his murderboner in Gundam SEED. There's at least one other scene like this.

>>13904350
A man performing a magical sacrifice rithual to help his sick wife.

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>>13904368
>>13904385

Oh, don't know how I could forget such a scene.

>>13904368
>>13904385
The Cyclops scene was far more brutal, I'd argue. I think it was the soundtrack what largely put the mood for that one.

I still find it amazing that (1) Fukuda thought that this was something fit for television broadcast on a show aimed at kids in their early teens, and (2) the execs at Sunrise agreed.

>>13904429
Why? It's par on the course for 2000s anime.

>>13904429
Didn't he say in an interview that a direct superior insisted on him making it as viscerally violent as possible?

>>13904350
SEED's version of 0079's Solar System.

You know how in 0079 the Feds secretly build a giant array of mirrors in space that can focus sunlight into a collosal death beam, then overtly position their fleet to attack a major Zeon stronghold, only to surprise attack with the solar death beam and wipe out most of the fleet? Then Zeon hurriedly builds their own and later springs pretty much the exact same trap on the invading Feds, but purposely sacrifice some of their fleet that was in the way?

This is basically that. Except the Feds in SEED built it underneath one of their version of Jaburo and (via an enemy collaborator) got ZAFT to throw all their forces at it. And instead of sunlight it was giant microwaves. So ZAFT built a giant microwave death laser and shot it at the Fed moon base during a huge fleet engagement, taking out chunks of both fleets, and these poor ladies on the moon, who I can only assume are their version of the Anaheim girls.

That's right. Blondie there is SEED Nina Purpleton. You're welcome.

>>13904503
>That's right. Blondie there is SEED Nina Purpleton. You're welcome.
Even Fukuda knows who worst girl is.

>>13902890
By doing what Nintendon't

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>>13904501
One of the producers from the TV station. Apparently, he kept egging Fukuda on to make the series more cruel.

>>13902890
>>13902889
I thought someone wearing a Metroid patch would be protected.

>>13904368
Yet somehow he managed to keep the onscreen death count on zero during all the Cyber Formula OVAs plus Dendoh, which is pretty much most of his career before SEED?

>>13904703
He just wanted to be like his hero Tomino-san.

>>13904716
Clearly, he hasn't tried hard enough, since Tomino apparently told him not to trust either Bandai or Sunrise.

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This terrified me when I first watched it. Now I can't get enough.

>>13904578
Sorry, she wasn't authorized to activate that defensive system.

>>13902890
Is this what it means to pop a woman's cherry?

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>>13904827

>>13904567
I'm guessing that guy must have gotten fired over that, considering not even the other SEED universe productions are this violent, and no other animated Gundam series has gotten that violent again either

I'll admit the gorn is the main reason I haven't rewatched SEED, pretty much every other negative aspect of it I can bear with, but that part just throws me off too much

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>>13905762

>>13905816
Are you twelve?

>>13904446
>par on the course for 2000s anime.
It what parallel universe?

>>13905830
no, just have low tolerance for senseless gorn

>>13905857
It only happens in two episodes though, once when the Feddies fire their genocide super weapon and once when the Zeeks fire their genocide super weapon

The first time the Zeek genocide super weapon is fired, no one explodes (just spacechips)

Not him btw

>>13905830
Believe it or not, there exist people in the world who like to be intellectually engaged in their works of fiction, instead of having tits and blood shoved in their faces every other scene.

If you have to resort to fanservice to keep the attention of your viewers, then that speaks ill of the rest of the show.

>>13905857
You know anime isn't real life right? Just checking..

>>13905879
There's a difference between having the sensitivity of a little girl when it comes to these things. A grown man would just ignore them and move on.

>>13905879
You're clearly biased. Just because a show has fanservice or some scenes of excessive violence, doesn't automatically mean that they're doing to compensate for lack of something else. It's perfectly possible to have such things and also an engaging story.

(Not saying SEED does.)

>>13905875
there's a couple other gorn scenes as well in SEED, those ones are just the worst

>>13905902
yes I do, again just have a low tolerance for it is all, I blame watching the Battle Angel OVA when I was 8, that poor dog...

>>13905999
>there's a couple other gorn scenes as well in SEED, those ones are just the worst

I legit don't remember any others, aside from Spacedad's death, but Spacedad's death was about par for the course when it comes to getting shot by masheenguns

Unless you count Nicol flashboiling inside his own pilot suit when Kira hits him with the anti-ship sword and Tolle's head coming off when the Aegis shoots down the Skygrasper with a shield

>>13905879
>>>/tumblr/

You will not enjoy thia board. You will not enjoy this site.

>>13906024

Bruh we literally have whole boards dedicated to fluffy shit

>>>/c/ exists for a reason (even if that reason is to balance out the negative karma caused by /ic/ and /cgl/'s hateful bitches)

>>13902889
They were already dead.

>>13906010
I think we get a couple other cockpit dismemberment moments as well, but those are the main ones

>>13906098
There aren't any other gory cockpit shots in Seed aside from Nicol and Tolle, presumably because they wanted their deaths to both stick emotionally and viscerally

I mean Rau doesn't even come apart, he just loses his mask and pulls the usual fade-to-white-then-explode cockpit death

>>13906118
>I mean Rau doesn't even come apart, he just loses his mask and pulls the usual fade-to-white-then-explode cockpit death
that's actually kinda surprising when you think about it, you'd think they'd have gone all out there

oddly enough I think what really bugs me the most about SEED's violence is how much it clashes with the show's visual style, one of the only other violent animes to disturb me more was Blood-C and that had a similar visual disonance(but then that show was almost 100% garbage outside of monster design so it's a lot more ignorable)

That stuff was pretty nauseating. There's a difference between gratuitous blood and gore and being inflated like a balloon. Even if you have four limbs chopped off and your intestines are spilling out, even if heat or plasma is searing away your flesh down to the bone, you can still die with honor. But imagine if a badass, beloved character died like these bridge bunnies.

>A funeral over an empty grave
>Sad child asks if it was painful when hid father died
>Concerned adult puts his hand on the child's shoulder
>"There probably was some pain, son, but it didn't last any more than one or two seconds."
>"I hope his last thoughts were of me, or mommy, or the ideals he stood for."
>"Well, son, he was probably too concerned by the fact that his entire body was blowing up like a zit to think of anything else. And then, 'pop!' No more daddy left to think. Just oblivion."

>>13906181
yeah there's that too, not to mention(at least from my recollection), that scene had some pretty horrifying usage of sound, lots of screaming and whatnot(even worse when you consider that it hit a Lunar city that probably had a sizable civilian population too, which we thankfully didn't actually see)

>>13906208
>/c/ existed much before cgl

And /g/ used to be a much better board, but I don't see your point anon

>>13905834
None, anon. A lot of anime was violent and was broadcaster as such on TV. The market was very different back then.

>>13906219
I'm assuming as to the reason of the boards. It's quite irrelevant, in any case.

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Microwaves, you say?

>>13906328

>Sorry guys, a bit busy at the moment.

>BUSY GETTING HUUUUUUUUUGE -pop-

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one minute there are human beings

I don't have a copy handy but Super Atragon has some people going splat

>>13906342
Did they add the bones in the remaster? I only recall them popping like balloons, like if they were some sort of video game sprites. Same for the GENESIS scenes.

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the next there aren't.

>>13906328
>NOW HE'S REALLY GETTING HUGE

>>13906256
>A lot of anime was violent and was broadcaster as such on TV. The market was very different back then.

Examples of shows that were broadcast on TV and had gore on this level? Preferably maintime slots, not otaku hour.

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Personally, I like the gore.

>>13906449
>on this level
SEED's "gore" is practically inexistent. People just pop like balloons twice.

>>13906483
There are a few other parts with copious amount of blood, but yeah it's not really gory.

However it's a lot more graphic than most gundam series.

>>13902927
more like double breast augmentation, look at dem forehead titties

>>13906538
>There are a few other parts with copious amount of blood,
Only Nicol and Tolle's deaths come to mind. Everything else is just standard Gundam death material.

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So, do you guys think if they hit Earth the people on one side would all go pop too? Or would the radiation just give everyone incurable cancer outside of the immediate blast zone?

>>13906568

Everyone at the impact site would pop. A lot of the rays would reflect upwards. The greatest danger comes from the superheated atmosphere that amount of molecular excitation would generate, flaying half the Earth of life immediately and causing bad weather.

>>13906568
>>13906577
I just figured they would be firing it an intensity high enough that the entire planet would be effected at once, vaporizing all life in seconds and boiling off the oceans immediately, would be incredibly massive overkill, but that's what happens when you give a superweapon to a bunch of psychopaths

>>13906611

Patrick was a fucking crazy person, so he'd go for a land strike instead of an ocean strike even though ocean strikes, whether via meteor, colony, or giant space laser, are always way more dangerous than land strikes

>>13906568
>current playlist

>>13906622
that's one of those interesting things about SEED's setting, almost every single person we see is certifiably insane, especially if they have any power or authority at all, the few exceptions tend to die, indeed SEED is probably the darkest Gundam setting when you take a deeper look at it, which is pretty damn impressive considering we've had three series now set after an apocalypse, and one series set during a century long war

shit felt tasteless as fuck
super detached, it didn't even really feel like the moment had severity to it like what the nuke felt like in turn-a or the satellite cannon in X, it just had the wrong tone.
felt like they were doing it because they thought it was cool

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>GENESIS Configrtion
>Play Song
>FunGame
>Song Info
>Rec song
>Help

>>13906674

Worse, they did it because the execs thought it would be cool >>13904567

>>13906470
me too.

>>13906674
>>13906686
yeah SEED(and Destiny) probably suffered the worst Executive meddling of any portion of the Gundam franchise, and it shows(doesn't help that it had a very incompetent staff too)

>>13906684
>Configrtion

Man, fuck vowels

>>13906662
and yet, Stargazer.

Where the fuck did that come from? Not complaining, it's the closest CE ever came to its cherished dream of being full-on UC.

>>13906738
Stargazer was good, but still had some flaws

>>13906865
no argument, but it was such a fresh take on the setting.

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>>13906684
>Play Song
>Earth Alliance, listen to my song!

>>13906328
Look at those gains. This is the power of gamma rays.

>>13906684
I am the only one seeing one of the options on the left as "Zap"?

>>13906328
>"I admit I haven't been truthful. What I said was 100% before was more like 85."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myc6HpJzgaU

>>13906684
>>13907102
This confirms that GENESIS actually works by amplifying pre-recorded Lacus Clyne's song to fatal level

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>>13907562

>>13906361
Nah, that guy always had ribs. It's one of the few bones that shows up in those shots so it stands out in my memory.

>>13904503
>And instead of sunlight it was giant microwaves.
So, like in Victory but with a lethal dose?

>>13906194
THAT'S NOT REAL THICK

>>13905879
>If you have to resort to fanservice to keep the attention of your viewers, then that speaks ill of the rest of the show

Anon, I've tried arguing with them. Just don't bother

>>13907900
You don't have to respond to yourself to make your argument look better, anon.

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Somehow I'm skeptical that gamma radiation would produce the same effects as microwave radiation in the body (boiling fluids internally until one pops). Can anyone shed some light on this? What sort of damage does gamma radiation cause in real life? Would a focused beam of it really produce thermal effects like this? If not, what would be a more realistic deception of the effects?

Can someone science this, or am I just overthinking it?

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>>13907562

I tried to warn them but they said I was crazy and locked me on the moonbase.

>>13907942
In real life nobody gets doses high enough to know. Super high doses end up in all your organs getting fucked up and you start having seizures, blood out of every orifice, extreme pain etc until you die (under 48 hours according to wikipedia). It's potent enough that we don't need to concentrate it so much that we want to find out. Nothing gives off that much radiation.

>>13908035
which goes to show just how overkill GENESIS is as a super-weapon, and how much of psychopaths the people in charge of ZAFT were, and to a lesser degree the other guys since Cyclops worked similarly

>>13908083
I dunno, creating a weapon that inefficient sounds stupid to me rather than bloodthirsty.

>>13908107
that's what I mean, no sane person would greenlight such a thing, and even an idiot would realize there's a hundred ways that'd be more effective and efficient, you'd have to be crazy to want to use a giant space microwave dialed up to 11

>>13907942

A bomb pulsed gamma ray laser like Genesis would probably have enough energy to flat out vaporize you almost instantly.

And people would not explode from high intensity microwaves - the human body is too durable for that. That said literally being cooked all the way through would still be a shitty way to die.

>>13904503
>>13904514

I doubt she's Nina, since her hair's down. If anything, Hirai probably just made a genderflipped Miguel or Azrael.

Also, any other names for microwave-based weapons?

>>13902889
>youtube
>>13902890
How? I'll show you how: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7HIrkj8-2w

God, I wish i had a better/shorter clip.

>>13906662
>that's one of those interesting things about SEED's setting, almost every single person we see is certifiably insane, especially if they have any power or authority at all, the few exceptions tend to die, indeed SEED is probably the darkest Gundam setting when you take a deeper look at it, which is pretty damn impressive considering we've had three series now set after an apocalypse, and one series set during a century long war

Seed and Seed Destiny are the 2 darkest Gundam's series ever. Extremely violent and explicit about it. No other Gundam series even comes close. Yes in 0079 you have half of the world's population go up in smoke but you never see it. Even when a colony drops in ZZ it doesn't feel as visceral as some of the most violent scenes in Seed/Destiny. It really brings home the horror of war. And what war will do to people. Another instance is that of cyber newtypes in the UC timeline. We know they're people who have been experimented upon but again we never see the gritty gritty details. The closest we've come to understanding their tragic stance is Murasame Four in Zeta. And even that was very mild in comparison to what the Destiny characters discover in the abandoned research center. All the boys/girls being experimented upon (and we see their remains, and the Zatf characters are actually disgusted by what they find) and conditioned from birth to hate and kill. It's a heavy punch to the gut. And let's not even go into nuclear armageddon. Seed/Destiny whatever their faults may be, are the most dark, adult themed Gundam tv series. Not even the OYW tops the cruelty displayed in Seed/Destiny.

>>13904503
Isn't the cyclops a reference to the nuke in jaburo in zeta rather than the solar system?

>>13908466

A combination of both, actually.

>>13908466
>>13908521
Even in Zeta we saw regular non-Titan Feds managed to escape in a Garuda.
In SEED other than ZAFT pilots exploding like balloon, they show us EA people like here in >>13906349 fell victim to the Cyclops. Just to hammered down how evil Atlantic Federation is (the ones that left behind was mainly from Eurasian).

The fragile and fractured Earth Alliance is one major thing that makes it different than just UC EF copy. It has potential, if only SEED has good writer to exploit that

>>13908403

It's because both sides really, really fucking hate each other. It's the utter hatred that comes with deep, gnawing envy.

The Naturals hate the Coordinators because they're ubermensch. The Coordinators hate the Naturals because god damn untermensch keep breeding and wrecking their shit.

The only way this could ever be resolved is genocide.

>>13905816
Mayu's blown off hand at the start of destiny would like to disagree

>>13908637
>>13908640

Showing how the EA got infiltrated thoroughly by Blue Cosmos could be a multi-volume manga work in and of itself. How else would they be able to turn a blind eye to the terrorist attacks that forced the PLANTs to arm themselves (the PLANTs hadn't seceded at that point in time yet) or sneak a whole stack of 40+ nukes onboard a warship otherwise?

>there will never be a Plot To Assasinate Ghiren-style work for SEED

>>13908669

Frankly, I always thought the EA and Blue Cosmos worked hand-in-hand. Like, let's say you're going to war against...I don't know, black people. Obviously all the racists are going to join up and form their own coalition. You can expect literally all the KKK and the Neo-Nazis to flock to your banner.

I mean, at a certain point, Blue Cosmos WAS the army. The whole plan was "Find a way to kill all the fucking Coordinators, blight the PLANTs so they can't breed, the motherfuckers who think they're better than us."

It's like how Azazel's last act is - "No, no! Don't nuke the Genesis; Nuke the PLANTs! Even if we lose, if we kill off all the gene-trash, we still win!"

Even the last words of Athrun's father isn't "Son? You're all right!" or "I'll...Give your mother my love." It's - "Athrun - Please, Athrun. PLEASE fire the Genesis. Fry them. Fry them all. With my very last breath, I implore you to commit genocide. You can't imagine how much this means to me, son."

>>13908680

Blue Cosmos is a populist movement which came to influence EA policymaking. Thats not working hand-in-hand, thats an ideological hijacking of a government entity. The only thing that would have made it anymore obvious would be Earth Hitler, Supreme Leader of Mankind talking about turning PLANTs into ovens.

>>13908680
>I mean, at a certain point, Blue Cosmos WAS the army.

No disagreements, there.

Just that, we have the (regular military) crew of the Archangel, some of who, while distrustful of Kira, don't show him any outright hostility. While they all defected in the end, it should be noted that for almost 3/4s of the show they firmly believed in the EA's right to fight back and never questioned whether if they should, say, surrender to ZAFT at all just because the EA threw the first punch. They might have been in a do-or-die situation, but it still makes its own point.

SEED's issue is one of under-representation. While the series makes it clear that Blue Cosmos is synonymous to the Atlantic Fed., they also mention conflicts and Coordinator acceptance in the Eurasian Fed. - which is never shown. Astray doesn't do it much justice either; it would be understandable if someone's anti-Coord due to the April Fool's Crisis or other reasons, but these people are never shown as anything other than being racist for self-centered reasons, rather than having a legitimate grudge. Even that only applies to Azrael; the majority of EA people, whether EuFed or AtFed, are shown being anti-Coord., but never why. It would be fine if it was a handful, but you literally cannot find any character in a position in the EA that matters, that doesn't speak like a BC shill, or an EA civilian that isn't being disaster'd or being in an anti-Coord riot.

It really screws up the representation of BC; the show would have you believe that literally every EA personnel from private to general is also a BC member. Which is ridiculous, it's like if every "white" man from every NATO nation was also a fervent KKK member, outspoken supporter of white supremacy, and they regularly meet up to lynch colored people.

Basically, what >>13908696 said.

>>13908751

I thought the Archangel's crew was mostly conscripted children (Like White Base) except for Captain McTits and Sleggar Lawless.

>>13908680

At least in SEED, I can make a case for Azrael's nukers being mostly Atlantic (after all, with the EuFeds mostly down, who's going to rein them in?). That's the powerbase nation of Blue Cosmos, they can be a bit off in the head for all anyone cares.

But again in Destiny? And not only no one questions it, they keep following these obvious orders that completely shatter basic tenets of human rights? That's kind of stretching it, isn't it?

Like literally where was the EuFed during Berlin? Nothing? The Minerva sails unchallenged around Europe and they had to bring in a fleet from another nation from the Pacific to deal with the ZAFT ship? The Republic of East Asia can deploy MSes against an Asian-ward ZAFT advance but the Eurasian Federation is nada? Martian citizens reach Earth and the first thing they get is a Blue Cosmos dog pulling some CIA things on him complete with threats and torture? How does the Kingdom of Scandinavia manage to keep its neutrality on Earth when every nation is forced to sign a security treaty with the AtFed? etc.

It's so bad that it's looped into a caricature by this point in the series. You will never find a super-national entity in Gundam more monolithic evil than the EA in SEED/Destiny. Only the Vagans can call them peers and these were people abandoned by the Federation, not made to work in space factories and then later told to shut up when they asked for some security to ward off terrorists that the ruling administration turned a blind eye to.

There's literally an untold story of Blue Cosmos' rise to power to be told there.

>>13908786

Frankly, by the time of Destiny? Both sides hate each other even more. Especially because of the assholes who disrupted the perfectly fine genocidal war they were having.

Ultimately they want to wipe each other out. Kira and the others are only getting in the way. Shit ain't happening.

>>13908765

The navigator, the crew chief, weapon's officer, chief info officer, the mechanics, etc. Basically anyone without the obvious blue-pink uniforms were commissioned officers and soldiers.

They make it a point to put almost all the Orb civilians on that shuttle, remember? Kira's friends staying back rather than going with them is a pretty key part of that story arc.

ITT: SEED fans who don't want to admit they're SEED fans.

At least you're still better than the G-Reco fucks.

>>13908751
The one thing I find is that the Cosmic Era has this whole fleshed out backstory that the shows just barely acknowledge. How many casuals know the Bloody Valentine war began as a labor dispute or that the EA is only a few months old at the start of the first series? How about the nations that weren't antagonistic to ZAFT and were taken over by the EA? Barely any, because Fukuda either ignored the lore or the lore was written later to add depth to the setting, where the war began for reasons other than petty racism.

Seriously, the EA is the worst bad guy in Gundam. At least the Frost Brothers were two pissed off rejects determined to fuck the world, not a coalition of armies that are supposedly at odds with each other.

Also, want to get this off my chest. I once had a SEEDfanboy go off and denounce the EU stuff because Fukuda never mentions it in the show. "What? Lacus runs a spy agency? Wow, just look at how much that it mentioned in the show. It doesn't count" Bitch please, when the only explanation for Kira's survival is in a tie-in manga, you lose the right to ignore extended universe shit.

>>13908786
Eurasia came under new leadership during Destiny - some angry Russian (I think it is mentioned in some guidebook) president who sicced Destroy on Eastern Europe because the people there outright welcomed ZAFT.

>>13908820
It's been more than a decade. The SEEDfags of old grew up.

>>13908751
I believe they mentioned that the earth was mostly running off nuclear power at the time the n-jammers hit. Even if it was only half the civilian power grid, that would seriously fuck things up. Banks, communications, even basic stuff like food distribution would be seriously screwed for however long it took to build new, non-nuclear reactors. The naturals have even more reason to hate the Plants than the Plants do (Bloody Valentine).

>>13909058
It's a crime how much seed ignores its own background material.

>>13908820
Seed has always had fans, mostly because a lot of the background stuff is pretty interesting. Seed hate has always been about missed potential, not the dick-on-keyboard 'lol i troll u' epic maymay shitflinging that gets thrown at G-reco threads.

>>13908820
I've always liked SEED, started watching it around episode 27 in 2003.

>>13908786
>There's literally an untold story of Blue Cosmos' rise to power to be told there.
And then there's Phantom Pain. As Stargazer showed to us, that secret not-Titan force has potential for story.
We saw them active during the 2nd war, but who knows, maybe they're already in shadows long before with Blue Cosmos.

>>13908820
Seriously, SEED is enjoyable whenever it's not about Kira/Athrun/Cagalli/Lacus/the crack brothers/a goddamn recap

>>13908403
I wouldn't say Seed or Destiny where the "darkest" Gundam series ever, but they were stupidly over the top with the graphic violence and gore.

>>13906328

And this is to go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND

>>13910101
Dark doesn't mean good, neither mature.

>>13908820
I hate SEED's execution, but I still love most of it's mechanical designs, and the basic world building behind it from before the series begins is actually one of the more thought out ones any Gundam series has had, it just all gets used poorly in the final product, SEED would really benefit from a full reboot

>>13906328
I USED TO BE A WIMP BEFORE I GOT ANCHOR ARMS

>>13910101
it's the darkest, but it's also the least mature, which is kinda hilarious when I'm counting Gunpla Battlers/Build Fighters, and SD Gundam here

>>13910184
The fun part was, according to a Japanese news article, Gunota thought SEED was too kiddie when it wrapped up.

> In turn, traditionally enthusiastic Gundam fans scowl at SEED's popularity as well as the direction of things. "Turning a hard-line approach Gundam into a softer kiddie toy thing," they think.

>>13910184
>>13910249
What's even funnier is that Fukuda wanted to make a show in the vein of oldies like Combattler V.

>>13908820
1. SEED's in a franchise. People can be fans of the franchise and have gripes about one of its installments.

2. The world is not square, nor is it black and white. You can like a thing and hate parts of it or hate a thing and like parts of it.

3. SEED was the catalyst for /m/'s creation, most people have seen it, so discussions about it are natural.

>>13906328
>Microwaves, son

>>13910256
I really wish they had let Fukuda do what he wanted, just to see the insanity. SEED feels like they were trying to fit a square block into a circle hole. What would be the chances of the Freedom having a rocket punch?

>>13906328
So that's why dad chose not to transform this way...

>>13902889
>>13902890
>>13902926
>>13904405

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING GUTS AND SKELETONS?! It's not even good proper gore.

>>13906568
What was the fucking playlist?! XD

>>13910931
Nonsense. SEED borrows a ton from Dragonar which is Sunrise's first attempt to create an alternate Gundam series. Fukuda have to do so because he learned everything from Dragonar's director Kamida.

>>13911327

Well he failed at learning how to be a complete and total financial loss.

>>13902889
>>13902890
I feel really bad that this gave me a fetish for inflation and popping.

>>13902889
>>13902890
>>13902926
>>13904827
>>13906321
>>13906328
>>13906342
>>13906349
>>13906363
What episodes did these happen again in Seed besides #49?

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>someone actually thought a Dobson ray super weapon was a good idea

>>13911385

The majority of the footage was first drawn for the JOSH-A battle, actually. That was in SEED #35.

In fact I think >>13902926 is the only new slag scene added when GENESIS hit the Ptolemaus moon base.

I don't recall seeing >>13906349 and >>13906363 outside of #35 either.

>>13911338
Dragonar burned because it got extended. The Gon Jem arc is nothing consequential to the plot, but only added in to stretch another season. What's worse is the enemy civil war that moving Meio to be the first protagonist ahead of Kaine. This, ironically is what Destiny did with Kira and Shinn.

>>13906328
>These microwaves have been passed down the Armstrong line for generations!

>>13906328
>"He's the Legendary Super Saiyan!"

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>>13911358

If it makes you feel better you're not alone.

How the hell do microwaves get through metal? Don't they usually just spark off of metal things and shit?

>>13912183

They still pass through, they just bleed off most of their energy as heat when they do. Using magnetrons as big as the cyclops system does probably beefs up the output to the point where the metal doesn't bleed off enough to entirely protect the pilot.

That said both MS and pilot suits are designed to operate is space where solar/cosmic radiation is EVERYWHERE so really aside from maybe fucking with electronics and cooking off external fuel/munitions microwaves shouldn't be all that effective against them.

>>13912232
I'm guessing that those suits weren't designed to get hit by what is effectively a coronal mass ejection to the face that was the cyclops system though.

And I doubt that those suits have radiation shielded propellant tanks and hydraulic lines since you'd want most of the radiation shielding around the cockpit and electronics so assuming that they had enough material to prevent the pilot from cooking and the electronics from frying, the suits would still be disabled enough because of all the liquid that just got flash boiled rupturing various parts of the suit which probably would have still caused an explosion.

>>13910931

>I really wish they had let Fukuda do what he wanted, just to see the insanity.

That would be Cross Ange.

>>13906674
It didn't help that it was presented so comically.
I mean look at the in-between frames, and the goofy ass faces most of theme make. The animators had to have been laughing their asses off that they were getting to put something so absurd and over the top in Gundam.

Reminder that Azrael did nothing wrong.

For our blue and pure world.

>>13912232
>>13912363
Speaking of shielding, early batch of Strike Daggers didn't have EMP shield as shown in battle of Panama.
It's really stupid considering EA is the faction that always favored nuclear strike. Surely they should have equip their mass-produced MS from nuclear strike effect including EMP, in case they're able to cancel the effect of N-Jammer.

And BTW, we haven't even talk about Neutron Stampeder, Requiem, and Genesis II (assuming it has difference with Patrick's Genesis). And since Durandal deployed both Requiem and Genesis II, does that make him the only main villain in Gundam that deploys TWO superweapons at once?

>>13912558
Does the Neutron Stampeder count as an actual superweapon, though? I was always under the impression that it's a negation-type system like the Gungnir was, seeing as it's primary use was a nuclear weapon interceptor that did it job by prematurely detonating nuclear devices (even the inactivated ones in storage, bullshit as that may be). Despite using the same firing animation as the Genesis, it didn't actually fry people upon immediate contact.

>>13912600
Since it can destroy nukes in storage, theoretically one can use it offensively by aiming the thing at any nuclear weapon storage.
But the thing is a one-off anyway, just a plot excuse to have EA developing Requiem and gigantic MAs instead of keep using nukes.

>>13912232
Not sure about cyclops, as I'm pretty sure they said it was basically a giant microwave, but GENESIS was (I think) gamma rays, which are much more difficult to shield from. Basically, so far we mostly just have 'lots of mass' as effective shields, which is one of the advantages of the O'Neill colony design, as it's exterior has its 'ground' to also act as a radiation shield. Also, the amount and energy of gamma rays found in the solar system are nowhere near enough to cause people to pop, just maybe cause cancer over time, so whatever shielding ships and MS had, it certainly wouldn't be built to withstand the kind of bursts GENESIS was delivering. Gamma rays are much scarier than microwaves, for Cyclops, I can only guess they had a lot of microwaves (the wiki also says the n-jammers actually helped focus the effects, but this is the wiki). I'm guessing someone put their gunpla in the microwave and someone at sunrise thought it would be a neat idea for a superweapon.

>>13902890
>>13902926
Did they add more of this stuff in the movies/HD remaster?

>>13912665
Yes, it could be used offensively against nuclear weapon storage locations. But for obvious security reasons, those tend to be kept relatively remote from EVERYTHING else. You'd knock out the nukes, but not much else of importance. Waiting until they're loaded on a battleship is a much better tactical move.

>>13912183
Radiation nigger

>>13904736
Tomino also kept going back since adults are hypocrites.

>>13906390
>I HOPE MY BODY CAN TAKE IT

Did Destiny have any brutal moments like op? I never saw that series myself.

>>13917134

During the Lohengrin Gate attack we get to see what it's like to be decapitated by a giant robot combat knife.

But I think the most violent scene, was, at the most, people getting sucked out into space after Djibril's Requiem attack misses. Otherwise it's just people getting engulfed in explosions, no close-ups of people getting chunked by falling debris or being popped by a superweapon.

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>>13904567
>can't comprehend it because it's hard.
>I only discuss war on the level that it is bad.
Fukuda confirmed for brain dead retard

>I wanted to bring it back to a pure robot anime, Combattler V-type
Then why didn't you make a AU like G?

>I made it happen since the sales of Buster Gundam were bad
That's some integrity there.

>You can't talk to solve things so their deaths were forthcoming
You mean like soldiers in the heat of battle you stupid fuck?

>Only I and Morozawa know her.
No one cares about your stupid space princess you cunt.