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Macross Delta thread. Who hyped for the official airing of Mikumo and friends in April? Also VF-31 > Draaken. Fight me.
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>>13900450
>hyped

There's nothing to be hyped about. It's completely depressing how far Macross has fallen, I don't think any other franchise has nosedived as hard as this.
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>>13900479
I thought the preview episode was fun. Sorry you didn't like it.
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>>13900489
Pay him no attention, he's trying too hard to make people hate the show.
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>>13900494
I don't think that's his/her intention. Some fans aren't too happy about the new anime and I don't have a problem with that so long as they aren't obnoxious about it.
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Between all the flinging around in the thread, I would like to note that actually drawn promo posters are pretty rare these days and that one's pretty nice
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>>13900538
It is pretty nice. Looks to be a different artist from the previous poster.
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>>13900531
Nah man, I've been on a lot of G-Reco threads and I recognize when someone is just trying too hard.
Just ignore him, since all he wants is attention.
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Did we ever get any japanese speaking friends who could translate the longer chara biographies?

http://macross.jp/delta/character/
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>>13900553
They were translated about a month ago if I remember. There wasn't much info to them. Only noticeable thing I remembered was Makina's bio mentioning she's a mechanic and a mecha otaku. Most of the character bios for the girls definitely imply they have had some military training.
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>>13900566
>They were translated about a month ago if I remember.
The partial ones were. The site has been updating this week with more information in the character section

But, uh, I haven't been checking the website every day or something. No sir.
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I wanna fondle Mirage's ears.
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I want that Mirage
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>>13900595
>They're making one of Mirage
Oh thank god, I was really afraid she was getting sidelined for the idorus
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>>13900600
There's still little fanart of Mirage. For one of the main love interests she wasn't that prominent in the pilot. Looks like that'll change in following episodes if we go by the old PV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKiLsbWiHY
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Delta original sidestory incoming
http://macross.jp/news/?id=152
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>>13900629
I love her character design
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>>13900479
0/10
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>>13900896
Sheryl was human.
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>>13900905
>Nome
nah
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>>13901109
Nomes are human, they're just also magic
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>>13900896
no
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>>13900479

You aren't familiar with many other franchises then.
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This is going to be an AotD contender.
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So, stupid question: is it normal to have trouble telling exactly what the differences between various Valkyrie models are?

The only reason I can recognize the VF-31 is that it looks like an updated VF-19, which I can only recognize because of the forward-swept wings. A bunch of the other ones from the VF-1 to the VF-25 just look like regular transforming jet-plane mecha, besides obvious ones like the YF-21 and Diamond Force's VF-17.
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>>13902791
Not really since most people who aren't into planes think all of them look a like. Here's a slightly outdated chart of the various VFs to help you get used to some of them.
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>>13902791
>So, stupid question: is it normal to have trouble telling exactly what the differences between various Valkyrie models are?
You're not alone. It's mainly because most of them do the same thing or more or less of the same thing. I don't even know most of their names unless I look it up. Unless it's a design that particularly stands out like the VFs in 7 or Michel's sniper one.
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>>13902791
Don't worry, until you get yourself familiarised with the VFs, it ain't really a problem if you can't identify them.

Have a picture to see the differences between the VF-0, VF-1, and F-14.
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>>13903000
I don't understand why the VF-1 is considerably smaller than the VF-0. Not to mention every valkyrie after were bigger than it.
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The new profiles have revealed that Keith is the king's illegitimate son.
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>>13903037
Kaname started her musical career as a normal idol.
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>>13903039
Freyja loves singing and her country's apples but hates galactic mackerel. Nothing much of importance was revealed about her.
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>>13903042
These two are as close as sisters and even live together.
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>>13903048
>almost as

On the other hand Mikumo is Chaos's (the organization behind Walkure) ace. Her voice is very effective at soothing the Var Syndrome.
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>>13903057
The twins come from a merchant family.
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>>13903062
And lastly, this guy has five older sisters. The old guy, Herman or whatever it's his name, was his instructor.

And that's it. Tomorrow I think they'll update Hayate's profile.
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>>13903048

Yuri confirmed
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>>13903048
Teh gay

>>13903066
>And lastly, this guy has five older sisters
I remember this and if we do not get any sort of bullying onee-chans I will be sorely disappointed
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For some reason I expected the knights to be members of nobility but they are starting to look like a bunch of misfits.
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>>13903048
Finally some canon yuri from satelight
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ごりごり
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>>13900896
Considering how commonplace all these different aliens are and how heavily they've been integrated into larger society in Macross, I'm guessing "pure humans" are becoming increasingly rare.
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>>13902791
Planes do have a tendency to look a bit samey in the eyes of non-planefags. But don't worry, once you get used to VFs, picking out the differences between models will be effortless.
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>>13903057
I'm still holding on to the theory that Mikumo is another new alien race.
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>>13900896
>There are people who actually care about whether a character is human or not in Macross

I mean usually, from my experience, the less human the better
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>>13903037
McGliss's from IBO.
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>>13900450
if I didn't like frontier will I enjoy delta?
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>>13906739
No.
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>>13906748
well that sucks
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>>13906739
Dude no one knows. There has only been one ep and it's a preview.
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>>13905284
Cyborg from Galaxy.
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>>13906739
Yes
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>>13906739
Maybe
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>>13906784
>>13906748
which is it
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>>13905284
My guess is a kind of "Protodeviln", but not exactly that. Something along the same lines.
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>>13906794
Both
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>>13906810
I haven't watched the preview yet.

have we seen her when she wasn't in costume or otherwise completely covered?
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>>13906819
is it still filled with jpop or do they use other music genres?
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>>13906838
>have we seen her naked yet?

S-senpai!
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>>13906841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG8-5LV0uPE
The first two songs were JPOP and the third song was more like ska.
>>13906838
We see her wear a disguise and that's kinda it.
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>>13906841
Have they ever used any genre other than 7's rock?
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>>13906862
Plus had Trance Music, literally.
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>>13906862
Depends on how you define it. I consider Plus's BG music to be extremely eclectic, cause, y'know, Yoko Kanno. But that's no the same as what the musicians in-universe are singing.

Sharon Apple's stuff might verge into electronica, but I'm not a music expert.
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>>13906862
Macross has been around long enough that it's older idol music sounds nothing like its modern idol music.
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>>13906876
I used to think that once and then I actually looked up what the lyrics were.

If anything, maybe they were just more chaste. Slightly.
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>>13906886
"Love goes away" and LION can't possibly be considered the same genre, in terms of sound.
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>>13906886
I don't know. A lot of Minmay's songs sound like elevator music.
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>>13906903
Minmay songs are almost like Enka.
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>>13906903
Silver Moon Red Moon maybe

>>13906917
I'm not sure if you know how Enka sounds like.

I mean even this is closer to Enka, and this is Symphgoear
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x38rf2a
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>>13906938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1nP2vYO24k And this
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>>13906938
Dude her "hardest" song is "Zero G Love", and I can totally picture hearing that in a hotel bar ca. 1985
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>>13906938

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1nP2vYO24k
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Minmay's pop songs are actually pretty similar to the idea of pop songs back then in general. It's just that the idea of pop was different back then and sounded slower which is why Boyfriend was just as well known as something like Northern Cross.

For example, this right here, was considered a really high top charting pop song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUXe8vqdvx4
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>>13906794
>which is it
It's been one episode

>>13906841
Why would it ever not be filled with j-pop? There was a ska song though
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>>13906739
So far, I think AKB0048 would be a better gauge to see if you will enjoy Delta, at least their concerts.
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>>13905796
>from my experience

Top kek.
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>>13906987
>80's J-pop
>slow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQGvlemqUpE
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>>13907118
That's still slow.
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>>13907128
For some reason I've always felt like Macross 3D would have had rap in it. No proof or anything just a gut feeling based on what little production stuff I've seen of it.
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>>13907128
>yo i heard you like jazz
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>>13907128
>citation needed
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Name: Hayate Immelmann
Age: 17
Gender: Male
D.O.B: September 21
Height: 169cm
A young man who speaks his mind and can be a little blunt at times.
Possesses an amazing sense of rhythm, but does not realize it.
With no specific goal or aspirations, he wanders the galaxy. The pendant he wears is a keepsake from his father.
Is allergic to cats.

His pendant looks very much like fold quartz, so maybe his family settled on the Vajra planet (or he's Alto's kid and he changed his last name :P)
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>>13907710
>Immelmann
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>>13907710
FUCBOI
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>>13907756
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>>13907800
How dare you
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>>13907710
>Is allergic to cats.
can't wait for the hijinks
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>>13907710
>or he's Alto's kid and he changed his last name
>only 8 years after Frontier
Are you retarded?
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>>13900450
looking forward to it anon, I'm not going to lie
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>>13903037
"You know nothing Keith"
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>>13908148
>Vajra queen took Alto back in time
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>>13908005
Still mad they used a "stock" shot from frontier in Delta.

There are other angles out there guys!
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>>13908182
I'm pretty sure they did it as a joke. They used the VF-171 launching angle we've seen before in Frontier and before it even gets too far away from the carrier it blows up.
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>>13908190
let's hope so. I would be pretty disappointed if they are going to reuse it
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>>13908179
No. Nothing implies that it did.
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>>13908220
You have been living with this "implying" meme for too long. I wasn't implying anything.
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>>13907995
>>13908005
We've only seen the Draken's fighter and partial gerwalk modes. They're really keeping the battroid mode unknown. Not even the model kits has shown it yet.
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>>13908252
Really looking forward to it.
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>>13908247
I wasn't implying anything.
I wasn't even using a meme faggot. You're an obvious liar. Nothing shows in the TV series or in second movie that the queen did bring Alto back in time.
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>>13908277
Ok anon you're obviously just baiting me.
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>>13908364
>implying I'm baiting
>can't even provide citation or evidence to support your claim
Anon you're obviously full of bullshit.
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>>13908364
Not him but I don't know what you're talking about either. There was never an indication they were going back in time
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>>13908386
>There was never an indication

ofcourse there wasn't you idiots and I never implied that there was. Green text doesn't fucking mean someone is implying what they typed.

I just threw up a crazy scenario to jokingly "support" the other anon's comment. Then you and the anon above take it serious like spergs.

Since I refuse to believe he is actually stupid enough to believe that I think that "the queen took him back in time" I figured he was just baiting me. But then you came along.
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>>13908383
>>13908386
I think anon was making one of those "jokes" that are popular with the kids these days.
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>>13908383
>>13908450
Lets play spot the samefag
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>>13908439
My bad then
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How does Rafaga measure up against VF's?
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>>13903042
FREYJA LOVED TO SING AND EAT APPLES
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>>13907710
He looks kind of smug from the side
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>>13908561

If it is, it would have to be a passive bluetooth thing. None of the Windmere guys have any helmets, even. Unless the sensors are in the suits. It's likelier that they're just cameras a la ADF-01 Falken. If the cockpit is armored from the get-go, it saves a bit on manufacturing and parts replacement.

Thinking of it, is there any reason to keep a glass cockpit on any VF by this point in the timeline? I mean, apart from being able to wave to grateful civilians.
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>>13908570
>Thinking of it, is there any reason to keep a glass cockpit on any VF by this point in the timeline? I mean, apart from being able to wave to grateful civilians.
Well, if the cameras fail you can fly by sight, I guess?
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>>13908573

Yeah, but then in that case it negates the need for all-round cam coverage in the first place. The reasoning for Ace Combat was that pilots wouldn't need their eyes at all since they're plugged into the COFFIN System, but the Windmere pilots aren't plugged into any deep-subconcious-type machinery. Galaxy probably thought "hey why don't we just use cams?"

Then again, knowing Macross, their version of standard VF-use bulletproof glass is probably strengthened with super-dimensional-related technology so who am I to tell 'em they can't use glass cockpits?

>tfw imagine 400-post shitstorms on super-dimensional /m/ or /k/ on the viability of glass cockpits versus cam cockpits
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>>13908453
>more than one anon disagrees with me he must be a samefag
I have a better game called spot the the autist.
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>>13908584
Glass or cam, it probably doesn't matter.
They probably just use the normal glass cockpit as a screen to put the cameras's footage.

Having an armored cockpit is kind of moot considering that PPB exists.
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>>13908633
>>13908584
Besides, why not both?

Make it an option to purge the canopy to reveal the normal glass cockpit when the situation calls for it(Camera failure, etc)
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>>13908556
Cute.
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>>13908660

Fuck I keep forgetting that the Lucifer can do this. All I remember of Galaxy shilling is the static fizzle of the Lucifer when Brera gets hit, and Guld's almost-zen cockpit with the YF-21 (some of it was glass). The Draken III probably has projection glass and cam view, too.

The wait for the Draken III's Battroid is beginning to gnaw on me.
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>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.psychosandwichstudios.galaxywars
just found this, original design do not steal
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>>13909251
Shameless.
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>>13908573
That's why the VF-27 was capable of ditching the cockpit armor.

No reason to keep the cockpit permanently vulnerable just to account for a single moderately unlikely contingency.
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>some fans hate Delta because it has valkyries doing a bunch of "dance" moves
It's amazing how just 10 seconds out of a 20 minutes episode can piss off so many people.
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>>13910291
Is this a Sega Saturn game?
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>>13910337
no, Atari 2600
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>>13910337
It's a fucking dreamcast you super retard
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>>13910291
I didn't mind it, but the most annoying thing,, for me, is that people are actually cheering them on when they should be running for their lives.

Other Macrosses at least had a sense of civilian panic, not cheering on as people around you die.
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>>13907094
What's the one on the left?
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>>13907094
>>13910258
Why are the arms of new models so spindly looking.Good old Valks weren't like that.
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>>13910521
Because they have to stow the arms in the wings due to the stupid container. The YF-30 is definitely Kawamori's weakest design.
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>>13910471
They're cheering because Walkure is there to save them.
>>13910496
YF-30
>>13910521
Old valks could get away with proportion shifting due to 2D animation.
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>>13910574

Another point for why 2D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3DCG.
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>>13910634
Yes, fatter arms is always better for transforming robots. Idiot.
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>>13910638

I don't see you making any convincing arguments to the contrary, you little baby. Of course, that's because you can't, but still.
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>>13910634
>disgustingly off-model animation is a good thing
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>>13910656
>he doesn't know how actual good animation works

/m/ is a place for people actually knowledgeable about their hobbies, okay? Go somewhere more fitting for you like /a/ if you're going to be this stupid.
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>>13910651
Obviously I can't since it's just a preference. Saying 2D animation is better because it allows for fat arms is just plain retarded though.
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It'd be nice if there was actually something to provide arm armour, though.
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>>13910731
Yeah, like some kind of solid flat piece of steel or even an energy shield of some kind.
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Maybe we get to see Max and Milia again? I kinda liked the boredomfest that was M7 because of them.
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>>13911334
Doubt it. They have to be like 70 now. At least their grandkid is in.
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>>13911334
Maybe a short cameo or a flashback at best.
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Name: Mirage Farina Jenius
Age: 18
Gender: Female
D.O.B: February 11
Height: 164.5cm
The only female in Delta squadron. As a pilot, has a lot of pride for her profession however she is also rather serious and inflexible. Due to her personality she has yet to experience romance. Mirage was a pilot in (New) U.N Spacy before being scouted by Arad for Chaos.
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>>13911899
Mirage is cute! CUTE!
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>>13911899
I'm still wondering what Chaos is.
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>>13911899
That ass
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>>13911899
>those thigh high boots
>those shorts
>that ponytail
Literally perfect.
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>>13911899
God I love her. Seriously, she is by far the winner here.
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>>13912010
Chaos is probably their privately owned military similar to SMS.
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>>13912010
apperantly it's the military unit that Walkure is part of.
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>>13911899
I just want to know who her parents are.
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>>13912171
You are fucking pathetic.
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>>13912220
I might be, but that doesn't make it any less true.
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>>13911899
Okay, she's the older girl. She's won by default.
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>>13912552
I don't know Mirage seems uptight and Freyja has her head on her shoulders and actually pursues her dream.
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>>13912563
Freya is however a fucking 12 year old child
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>>13912652
14 and marraigable from where she's from
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>>13910291
>implying a robot dancing show wouldn't be the dopest shit
faggots all of them
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>>13910291
So what the fuck should I be expecting? Idol shit as far as the eye can see? Or should i just stick with the toys?
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>>13912218
Basara and Emilia
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>>13912218
Mylene and Gamlin
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>>13912873
>>13912885
More like Komilia and some random dude
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>>13911899
>Due to her personality she has yet to experience romance.
If this isn't enough of a flag I don't know what is
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>>13912885
Hahahahahaha Fuck you

>>13912652
>12 year old child
Isn't she like 14 or 15? According to 7, that's pretty much 18 in Macross terms
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>>13912953
It's the excuse for constant blushing tsundere scenes.
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>>13912218
Some speculates Mirage will have a complex caused by her not being real Jenius, maybe step/adopted. So I'm thinking Moaramia.
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>>13912962
As long as she's not a turbocunt tsundere like Mylene, I'll be fine
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>>13912953
>>13912965
Now I hope Keith and Mirage can interact. A King's illegitimate son with a possibly "outsider" from a prominent family? Two "black sheep", almost same age, interesting.
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>>13912563
Well, yeah she's uptight. But from the little we've seen she's not bitchy. She apologises when she's in the wrong (not that what she did was unreasonable) and takes responsibility for her actions.
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>>13913084
Agree. Honestly, I kinda wish the triangle would be Hayate/Mirage/Keith now.
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>>13913170
>A triangle with no idols
Pffft

Also, I personally am not a fan of Kawamori's 2 guys 1 girl triangles compared to his 2 girls 1 guy ones
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>>13913170
Why does it have to be a triangle? Another polygon would be more interesting.
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>>13913250
Freyja's fiance/Freyja/Hayate/Mirage/Keith?

Make it happen, Kawamori.
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>>13913170
I won't go as far as want romance with them just yet, but both probably desperately want to prove themselves and be acknowledged by his father and her family. It has the potential to be a compelling interaction.

But Hayate makes more suitable foil for Mirage. Natural skills vs hard work, serious vs aimless attitude. Can't wait for their bickerings.
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>>13913376
The interesting thing about this triangle is that Freyja is also a suitable foil for Hayate. If she weren't so young maybe this triangle would turn out to be a close one.
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>>13913250
Well not impossible. Kawamori said something about the triangle symbol not closed, may mean multiple triangles, what's with the males-females ratio this time. Ikenai Borderline lyrics also suggest fall in love with enemy.
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>>13913407
Kawamori also said he wanted to focus on different types of triangles, not just romantic ones.
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What if the winner of the love triangle dies?
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>>13913530
It would be really fucking sad
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>>13912960
>Isn't she like 14 or 15? According to 7, that's pretty much 18 in Macross terms
14 yo she was, but Mylene design made her looked mature enough to not seem awkward being engaged with 19 yo Gamlin. 14 yo Freyja on the other hand, if her fiance is 19/20 yo Keith/Roid, it'll look kinda weird.
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>>13913542
Her fiance is the second son of the apple farm, or so she claims. I think it's gonna be the sixth knight. If the twins come from a merchant family then I don't see why someone from a farming one can't be a knight too.
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>>13913231
Then you might want to prepare. Kawamori hinted Delta is hybrid between Plus and 7, which, you know, both had 2 guys 1 girl triangle.
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>>13913231
But why? 7's was quite alright in its lack of drama. I agree Plus's love triangle is a mess but it's supposed to be a mess and I don't expect anything as heavy in Delta.
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>>13913532
for you
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Since Megumi Nakajima will be in the next Macross Delta event you think Ranka will appear in Delta.
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>>13913391
True. But I doubt Hayate-Freyja will be a bickering pair. Their foil is more like she has things that he aspires and lacks of (dream, determination). While Hayate-Mirage are really opposites to each other, not to mention with same job, so them butting heads is inevitable, even the preview already shows it.
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>>13913655
>But why? 7's was quite alright in its lack of drama
That's the problem with 7, It was nonexistent but there were times where the show kept pretending it was a thing off and on whenever it wanted to

>I agree Plus's love triangle is a mess but it's supposed to be a mess
Yes it was. It felt like the kind of drama you see in modern shojo love triangles before they were a thing

And I didn't just mean Macross. Escaflowne and both Aquarions' guys/girl triangles weren't particularly enjoyable either.
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>>13913787
Not only her but the VAs of Max, Milia, Mylene, Minmay etc will also come. Looks like Delta will be the 1st in the franchise to really bring out various characters from previous titles.
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Did previous VAs not come to Frontier voice events?
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>>13912761
Warrior idols, VF dogfights, and GIRI GIRI AI.
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>>13913868
I don't think that those VAs attending to an event necessarily means their character will appear on the show, maybe they're invited because new characters are related to them, at least I can see that with Max, Milia and Mylene.
In Minmay and Ranka's case maybe they will be mentioned in the new series, and lets not forget that they haven't announced the whole guest list for the event yet.
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>>13912761
>Or should i just stick with the toys?

This. Bandai's finally releasing an affordable VF-171, which is cool despite it being a non-scale non transformable model kit. That's about as far as my hype goes for modern Macross.
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Calling it now! Freyja was supposed to be a Var Emulator.
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>>13912873

I fucking wish. Show me old man Basara and his Zentradi waifu in some sort of intergalactic JAM Project.
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Name: Chuck Mustang
Age: 24
Gender: Male
D.O.B: August 28
Height: 173cm
Originally from the planet Raguna. The ‘mood maker’ of Delta Squadron. A bit of a joker, he always goes for the ladies but they rarely respond in kind. Together with his four siblings, he runs the ‘RaguNyanNyan’ restaurant.
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>>13916472
The water planet we see in the old PV must be planet Ragna then.
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>>13913615
Well right now it only feels like a hybrid of Frontier and Frontier.
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>>13916823
Singing in the enemy's face is 7 as fuck.
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>>13916863
Yep, and the Valkyrie vs Valkyrie battles are supposed to be the Plus part of the mix.
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>>13900546
"We want idolmaster audience."

Good thing i didn't touched macross past 7.
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>>13916901
7 literally has a combat idol group in it you retard.
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>>13916905
You dare to compare them? I honestly pity you, my little moefriend.
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>>13916909
I'm talking about Jamming Birds, not Fire Bomber.
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>>13916901
And Macross VFX-2 had the Milky Dolls. Macross has had idol groups before.
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>>13916823
It seems more like AKB0048 to me, what with the aidorus singing while those piloting the robots cover them.
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>>13916924
I want that weapon in PSO2.
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>>13916924
Macross has always had idols singing while pilot robots cover them.
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>>13916993
Except now the idols are taking a more active part on the battlefield.
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>>13916901

>Good thing I didn't touch Macross past 7
>Good thing I didn't touch Macross past Under-appreciated Rock Band Romanticism feat. the The Misunderstood Band Main Vocalist: The Series

Basara was amazing by the end of the series, but the sheer two-facedness of your post might have enough power to defeat even Sound Force altogether.
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>>13916994
At least they're being more proactive which is nice
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>>13916994
Is this a problem? Or are you just literally autistic.
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>>13911899
>Due to her personality she has yet to experience romance
pfffft a virgin what a loser
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>>13917011
Just pointing it out you sperg.
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>>13916994
7 did it first.
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>>13916993
Previously they were singing on the ships.

Singing on the very front with the risk of getting injured or killed by a stray bullet or two, that's very different from singing from the safety of a ship and its fleet of VFs.
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>>13916909
He was talking about the Jamming Birds. They were failures though. Mainly because when it came to music only Basara was allowed to do anything

>>13917023
Not outside of mecha though. This is pretty different.

I'm okay with it though. Seems like it will lead to some interesting choreography
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>>13917062
>Not outside of mecha though
Basara sang numerous times directly to enemies outside his VF, what's the problem anyways? People whine about idols being boring and now that they're being badasses without fear you're still whining about it.
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>>13917075
>you're still whining about it.
>Missing the part where I said "i'm okay with this"
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>>13917041
>>13917062
What is Jamming Way?

Also Basara did sing outside the mecha to his enemies numerous times.

So I'll say it again 7 did it first.
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>>13917118
Jamming Birds
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>>13917011
Of course it's not a problem. It's great.
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That Escaflowne thread reminded me that Windermere's medieval motifs/design remind me of that series. I know it will feel weird for some people but I like that mix of fantasy and science.
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>>13916472
Considering he's an aquatic race, I'm 99% sure we're pronouncing it "Raguna" but it's supposed to be Lagoona or something.
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>>13900450
Is that a fucking drawn poster? Not digital mockup? In 2016? I didn't think they ever did these sort of things anymore
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>>13918553
Doesn't fit the pronunciation. And it's not necessarily his species' homeworld, so we're not sure that it's actually an aquatic planet. It's probably Ragna or something.
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>>13918707
It's written as Ragna in the episode. Ragna is also the name of the fleet that colonized it.
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>>13918190
I read that Escaflowne was originally going to be about VFs with a knight theme but this was reworked into Escaflowne. Apparently the concept names for the different kingdoms for Escaflowne are being reused in Delta.
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>>13919085
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>>13911899
>born 4 years after 7
Mylene would be about 18 then, so it would be about right.

Odds are that it's one of her older sisters though. Don't think Japan is very promotive of having a kid so young, so maybe Emilia or Miranda's daughter.
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>>13919273
Millia had Komillia at 16.
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Age: 21
Gender: Male
D.O.B: December 14
Height: 191cm
Delta Squadron Ace Pilot. An ice-cold professional who rarely shows emotion.
His Valkyrie is adorned with a picture of the grim reaper.
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>>13920163
Will he win the hayabowl?
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Am I the only one who likes this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUMQv1Sz_qU
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>>13912652
Old enough to sleep on their own, old enough for the bone.
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>>13920918
Jezus that Messer is a lucky dude
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>>13919273
>>13919295
I think it's pretty obvious that Mirage is the daughter of Moaramia. They have similar hair color, and Mirage has super-pointy ears, hinting that she can't be less than half Zentradi. Moaramia, being full Zent, is the most likely candidate. Plus, she is the only Jenius to also carry the Fallyna name, which Mirage also has.
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>>13921185
>am I the only one that likes Ikenai Borderline?
Fuck no dude. A lot of people love that song. Also have the original.
https://soundcloud.com/aslan-zara/ikenai-borderline
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>couldn't even get through 5 episodes of F

I'm not even going to watch the trailer, it's obvious that I'm not the target audience for this series anymore. It's for the idolfag audience now. I'll just rewatch 7.
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>>13922995
If 7 had pop music instead of rock you'd be saying the exact same thing.
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>>13923004

Frontier spent an entire episode on having the cast chase a pair of panties around. It's not about the music genre (I like pop, anyway) it's about the blatant otaku-pandering being worse than ever before, to the point where it's completely usurped the rest of the show.
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>>13923010
7 had an entire episode where the group was chasing after two scumbags selling pictures of Mylene's ass. What's the difference?
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>>13923020
It was a nice ass
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>>13923263
>liking flat 14 year old ass
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>>13923010
If it had truly usurped the show there wouldn't be any love triangles and the robot action would take a complete backseat instead of becoming more prominent every series to the point that Delta's is important for being an entire series that will have solely VF vs. VF combat as the mainstay
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>>13923010
>usurped the rest of the show
If anything, the love triangle is the one that usurped the rest of the show.

The peace early on is a pretty good contrast to the destruction of nearly everything later on.
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>>13922995
>>13923010
Delta first episode is very different to frontier and so far is more like a mix between macross 7 and akb0048
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Age: 33
Gender: Male
D.O.B: January 10
Height: 182cm
Delta Squadron Commander. Both patient yet strict, he is the dependable big brother type.
Tasked with selecting members for Delta Squadron, which carries out operations together with Walkure, he has assembled a group of pilots that are highly skilled if somewhat idiosyncratic. He was previously a member of (New?) U.N Spacy.
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>>13924132
I'm wondering how Hayate ends up getting to join Delta squadron. Maybe Freya joins Walkure and he decides to protect her or something.
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>>13906739
why didn't you like frontier? most people consider it one of the best macross series
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>>13925005
While I'm not knocking Frontier because I did think it was alright, that's like saying "why didn't you like Seed? Most people consider it one of the best Gundam series". Frontier is like the first series a lot of people had seen.

Also, the movies were like 10 times better
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>>13925014
>Frontier is like the first series a lot of people had seen
I wouldn't necessarily say that's the case. From what I've seen, even a lot of "new" Macross fans still start with the original.

The movies were better overall, but the series had a better finale and better concert scenes.
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>>13925020
>but the series had a better finale and better concert scenes.
I only mildly agree with the former and wholeheartedly disagree with the latter
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>>13900450
I'm kinda looking forward to it but if the CG is as bad as Delta or Zero we're fucked.
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>>13925038
Meant Frontier, not Delta. I'm an idiot.
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>>13925038
I really don't care about CG in mecha anime anymore.

Unless it's like, that Dai Shogun show and it's clear nobody gave a fuck
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>>13925049
Yeah, like Frontier or Zero. The PSP games based on Frontier had better plane models than the TV anime did.
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>>13924249
>Maybe Freya joins Walkure
What are the odds of that happening, anon?
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>>13925020
>but the series had a better finale
How can you say that since Sheryl wins in the movies?
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>>13925055
I think you really need to look at what actually terrible CGI looks like.
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>>13925096
I watched Aldnoah.Zero.
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>>13925055
Why do people feel the need to go so far with hyperbole? That's fucking ridiculous. I have both the Frontier Blu-Rays AND all 3 PSP games and the games look absolutely horrible in comparison. But we aren't exactly playing the game for sexy graphics anyway, so that's not even really a factor.
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>>13925087
Nah.Highly unlikely.
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>>13925020
>The movies were better overall, but the series had a better finale and better concert scenes.
It's the exact opposite
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>>13925391
>hyperbole
I wish. Macross Frontier is literally the only series I dropped for being too ugly, and I've watched all the /m/ essentials.
>PSP games look ugly in comparison
Oh fuck off.
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>>13925511
>Oh fuck off.
He's not wrong though.
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>>13903012
Doesn't need to carry traditional fuel as it's using nuclear engine. And they wanted it to be the same size as the Zentraedi when in Battroid mode.
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>>13925511
The models weren't as good as you think they are.
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>>13925867
Better than the N64 models we got in those anime
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>>13925092
Um, she won in the series even more.
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>>13925092
You do realize that she won in both versions, right?
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>>13925894
Stop trying so hard
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>>13925894
Show me N64 models that look like this then. And here's that reply you wanted.
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>>13925511
Now we know you're full of shit. SDFM looks absolutely disgusting, even for its time.
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>>13926066
Not to mention chock full of animation errors like the infamous nosecone lasers.
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>>13913444
Earliest triangle he has designed (I think)
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>>13925917
Not him, but Frontier was basically the point for me where I thought that CGI could work in anime. The biggest disappointment about Delta for me is that things barely seem to have progressed in the last 10 years. At least, for Macross.
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>>13926883
I think the CGI will be improved by the time it actually airs in April. Tenjin mentioned there's still a lot of unfinished footage in that preview episode and when you compare the new model art of the VF-31 compared to it's first reveal you can clearly see it has much better textures.
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>>13926883
>The biggest disappointment about Delta for me is that things barely seem to have progressed in the last 10 years.

Funny you say this, because this is how I felt going into Frontier coming from Plus & 7.
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>>13923409
I think that was the point of those episodes.
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>>13925092
why doesnt alto just cum inside both of them?
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We're never getting a macross where the primary focus is the shit the pilots have to go through; piloting service combat mecha instead of snowflakes; where their down time is too damned short; where the loss of a wingman doesn't waste an episode with saaaaaaad but instead adds to the build burdens the MC carries; where the MC isn't gods gift to the SDF but actually has to build his skills fight by fight rising to command via genuine worth and the loss of comrades; where the power of music isn't some bullshit fold/magic/deculture crap but just something the pilots and the people they protect can use to maintain their sanity, their morale, and their hope. Are we?
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>>13927184
It's funny how most of those things you asked for are already in Frontier.
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>>13927184
>where the loss of a wingman doesn't waste an episode with saaaaaaad
Never forget.
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>>13927238
>MC pilots cutting edge VF not used by NUNS
>MC has enough downtime to attend fucking highschool
>MC losses like, 1 comrade.
>Power of musing is foldspace magic shit that Mind-controls/UNDERSTANDINGS the alien threat

so... clarify that please?
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>>13927338
The VF-25 was a massproduced machine just not used by NUNS. Alto also lost those two wingmen he commanded while flying a VF-171 (an actual mass produced VF by NUNS), Alto also barely has enough time to attend school. He doesn't have much else in free time. And Music was used for morale or did you forget about Sheryl and Ranka having to sing to keep spirits up after the colonies were constantly under attack?
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>>13912218
Lady M
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>>13927338
>MC pilots cutting edge VF not used by NUNS
The Messiah is an experimental Valk that's why the miltiary doesn't use it

>MC has enough downtime to attend fucking highschool
everyone does their own shit in their free time they are mercs not soldiers

>MC losses like, 1 comrade.
the focus is on their team of 8 two die, you don't think they carry the burden of all the dead people from galaxy or the islands?

>Power of musing is foldspace magic shit that Mind-controls/UNDERSTANDINGS the alien threat

>Power of musing is foldspace magic shit that Mind-controls/UNDERSTANDINGS the alien threat
Sheryl is called the goddamn Hope of the Frontier even in the anime her power and Ranka's doesn't affect the humans or Zentradi they keep singing to give hope to the people

But they can communicate with the Vajra
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>>13927370
VF-25 wasn't massproduced it was in development that's why Alto is surprised in the first ep
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>>13927391
It was mass produced for SMS. That's why their entire fucking fleet in the movies have it.
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>>13927399
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>>13927399
it's hard to see but the same anyway NUNS in 2059 use the VF-171
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>>13927435
It's a little hard to make out but they're definitely the VF-25A models with super packs.
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>>13927455
yup you are right

>The VF-25 Messiah is one of the newest-generation variable fighters used by humans in 2059. Shinsei Industry/ Macross Frontier Arsenal Original Development/ Macross Frontier fleet's L.A.I. independently developed the VF-25 from the YF-24 prototype as the potential successor to the VF-171, the main variable fighter of the New U.N. Spacy. It has not been deployed to the New U.N. Forces yet, but has been deployed early to the S.M.S. for field testing in real combat scenarios.
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>>13927184
>actually has to build his skills fight by fight rising to command via genuine worth and the loss of comrades
The only MC to actually even get into a command role was Hikaru and that was with Roy dying.
Every other Macross MC didn't even make it to commanding jobs.

Isamu was thrown to be a test pilot, then later joined SMS.
Basara went on to sing to space whales and whatnot.
Alto stayed as Skull 4 under Ozma's command the whole fucking time.
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>>13927260

That was so fucking weird. I still can't believe that happened and was brushed over so quickly.
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>brera never got to give ranka the lucifer
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>>13927572
Actually Alto joined the army proper in the last episodes when Ozma fucked off elsewhere.

It's actually unknown what rank he had while in the army.
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>>13927572
>Alto stayed as Skull 4 under Ozma's command the whole fucking time.

Not true, after SMS escaped from Frontier Alto and Luca joined NUNS, then Alto was given his own squadron becoming Sagittarius 1.
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