EXVS FULL BOOST questions

>>13879653
My guess is either they're top tier units or are easy to use and provide a bit of everything (which would make them top tier either way).

>>13879653
Well for your first question, FA Unicorn and Banshee Norn are pretty much the 'ezmode' suits, their movesets and weapons are powerful and have very good tracking, allowing more mistakes during fights. You could be pretty mediocre at the game and still do pretty well playing with either of those units.

And for your second question, boost management is key. You've probably noticed a lot of people stay very close to the ground, boosting in short bursts around the map. They do that so they can cover long distances but still have enough boost to dodge and jump

>>13880002
>boost management is key.
This, so much.
Run out of boost and you're a sitting duck for a second or so, long enough for someone to combo you.

>>13879653
>Norn up front in the pic
Well, that's not so bad-

>Norn AND Delta+ on the same team
Reset the game, please, it is not worth the slog.

>>13880124
looks like the regular banshee

>>13880454
Well, lookit that, I'm already suffering from PTSD just by seeing anything in black with yellow highlights.

>>13880002
What am I supposed to do to git gud online? Everyone is pretty much super skilled and experienced compared to me.

Doing 2v2 against CPU at max difficoulty until I'm burned out?

>>13881085
Ideally, you find at least 1 other person who's willing to sweat it out with you on your team and can give you direct commentary on your play.

>>13881085
You're probably fucked at this point.

>>13881085
>Doing 2v2 against CPU at max difficoulty until I'm burned out?
I recommend 1v2 for evasion.

>>13881085
watching replays of your matches can help so you can see what you need work on and watching your enemies perspective can help you better understand how they hit X or how they dodged Y.

>>13881157
That doesn't help unless you have someone to help point out your mistakes.

>>13881085
My personal advice, just have fun and don't sweat it too much.

So is this the new thread?

Might as well ask this here:
Outside of the extra songs, is there anything separating the regular FB and G Sound edition? Also are the songs downloads or already on the disk?

>>13882092
The extra songs are downloaded, it comes with a code to put into psn.

>>13882092
The songs have their own slot too. You essentially get more slots for custom BGM if you're into that.

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>MB-On coming march 9th
>first unlock is Mack Knife
so we finally going to get the rest of the crew?

>>13882319
Nice OCs.

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>>13882332
you talking shit about Bolt, Maxter, and Rose?

>>13882343
Who? I'm just complimenting your nice drawing. Are those there names?

>>13882121
>>13882033
Thanks. I think I'll just get the regular one then.

>>13882412
Why? G sound is actually $2 less than the regular edition on playasia right now. [spolier]Totally not a shill btw[/spoiler]

>>13882420
Ctrl-s friend.

>>13882426
Don't worry I'm just fucking incapable of remembering that apparently.

>Got a THE BEST copy of the game
>Code doesn't work so I can't play online
B-back to the bots I go!
Good, I can never handle fightan game pressure, especially if there is a second person dependent on me.

>>13882420
I just found a good deal on regular edition and I don't really need those extra songs..

>>13882435
I hear the THE BEST comes with EX-S. Is that true?

>>13882359
Is this the real life.
Is this just fantasy.

>>13882475
Yes.

>>13882475
>called "Excess Gundam"
>used to be extremely bulky compared to Z/ZZ era designs
>is actually tame compared to the tacked-on backpacks in Unicorn, 00 and G-reco

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>>13879653
>mfw you can barely melee approach norn on landing because of those fucking explodey balls

>>13881085
I can help you with techniques if you're cool with voice chat

Not the most competent guy, but I did make it to gold plate, though that doesn't say much for console version

if you are interested, skype name is blightwood

Not OP but I'm a bit lost with this game, too.

I've just got started with EXFB after years of GvGN+ and my old mains are completely different...
The Zeta seems to have lost its combos with beam saber throw and waverider crash, Epyon has lost any semblance of ranged defense it had (i.e. the mobile doll support) and Exia has a new assist with the GN Arms that doesn't seem as abusable as the Dynames.
What are some general tips for newcomers?

Also is the Berga Giros considered beginner friendly? I've tried an arcade run with it and it feels nice but its durability is somewhat limited.

>>13882912
On the one hand, no 1k is beginner friendly, so go back to Berga Giros only once you have a better handle of the game.

On the other hand, in arcade run everything is beginner friendly, so you shouldn't sweat it too much.

The most general tips for a newcomer I can think of would be that you learn a 2k (hopefully one with a regular beam rifle), and that you learn to zunda (zunda is when you shoot your rifle, cancel the shot into a boost dash, shoot again, cancel again, and then shoot a third and last time for a knockdown). While learning zunda is important, it's just as important to learn not to abuse it. Against the CPU you can win forever just with zunda, so it's easy to get into the bad habit of just zundaing over and over again, since the CPU won't be looking to punish your landings or your overboosts. So, learn to zunda but try, from the start, to always avoid landing below yellow boost and to only use zunda when you are certain it won't leave you vulnerable afterwards (again, this is hard to practice against the CPU, but if you don't have someone to play with just try keeping it in mind I guess).

There's more things to learn, obviously, but the most fundamental one is boost management, as it's at the root of everything else. So for every good tool in your arsenal, you should learn to use it without crapping on your boost consumption too hard. Which is why, I think, for a total beginner, zunda is an easy enough place to start.

>>13883718
Thank you, anon. I'll keep that in mind!

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No where to hide

>>13882420
>$74

i found a new copy of the Best edition for $24 on amazon,. shame i'll miss the songs but you cant beat that price

>>13884908
At least you have 2BC?

>>13881250
I won 2 matches out of... I don't know, maybe 30? I'm not really having fun being stomped all the time by the same 2 or 3 units.

Especially because matchmaking is fucked up and I'm always paired with non ranked players against 4 stars units used by gold ranked players.

>>13882420
I was actually lucky because a friend of mine bought it in Tokyo for around 2500¥ and sent it to me for free.

>>13885970
Is your PSN CelestialBeein?

>>13882754
I would love some training, maybe I can figure on moving the ps3 and my room TV near my desktop computer (they're on different rooms).
Also, I'm an eurofag so timezone might be an issue.

>>13882912
Hello Ramza.

>>13883718
What about those sidesteps some units do while spamming square (gold sumo) or R1 (Sinanju)?

>>13885979
Nope, Rimoha is my jp psn name (created this account only because I wanted to try Battle Operation 1 a year ago).

I usually try to join some of those rare us/eu rooms and I feel sorry for my companions because I sucks so hard.

I really wish there was a way to do 1v1 online since I am too used to GvGN+ duels I always had with a friend.

just ordered the game so i'll have it buy next fucking month, but how are God Gundam and well any of the Crossbones?

i'll make a jp account tomorrow

>>13885987
Still waiting for you to accept my PSN friend request.
Not that I've activated my online pass, mind you.

I'm from Texas. I can help new players get better. My Skype is apeorg. I'll be busy the next few days, but should be able to create a JP account on thursday. This friday I'll be holding full boost casuals at a tournament to see if I can introduce local players to the game.

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>>13886009
>I feel sorry for my companions because I sucks so hard
my brotherrrr
I've been playing since October but I'm still trash after 1k games; at a 35% win-rate.
But I don't care because I always have fun win or lose. Even if I'm stuck playing nothing but Norns, Sandrocks and FAUCs.
Fuck tryhards who send hatemail though.
>tfw don't live on the west coast so i can play 24/7 against japs without a 1s input delay
>tfw live in the UK which is literally the worst possible place for this kind of shit and can only play in the EU/US rooms
>tfw because of timezones and the nature of the playerbase those rooms only go up at anywhere from 11PM to 7AM typically for me

My PSN's Lumadoujin. Let's play together sometime if we're both online.

>>13885982
Sure, and I'm in Asia GMT+8

Just toss me a message so that we don't hijack this thread

>>13886250
Where in TX I'm 325

>>13884908
>PoorLittleExia.mvk

>>13885998
Those are not "zunda", if that's what you're asking, and have varied levels of effectiveness. (Not much, for Sumo; p sweet, for Sinanju--but that's just my opinion)

>>13886426
Go ahead and hijack it. I miss the days of permanent exvs generals.

What about FB missions, any purpose for this game mode except doing for the sake of it? I really wished for something like NEXT mode.

This game looks stupid fun, but I'm worried that by the time I get it and have time to play it it will be dead.

Also fuck 39.99 plus shipping.

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>>13886009
>>13886369
Don't feel bad. Rest assured they are talking shit behind your back instead. The Gundam "community" always does this.

>>13886692
Just to give guys who aren't into competitive play something to do, really.

>>13886694
It's not dead, but it is relatively hard to get into.

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>>13886695
Oh I'm well aware.
But there's nothing that's gonna stop me playing short of being kicked from rooms.

>>13886623
Me too.

For anyone interested, I usually try to make /m/ lobbies on fridays. I don't care if you are the worst player in the world or the best, you are free to join.

I may not exactly be that great a player myself but if need be then I can give some feedback to help other players as well.

>>13886786
Timezone?

>>13886807
EST

>>13881085
I pretty much agree with >>13881250

Like I got pretty decent at the game just playing suits I like, having fun and getting a feel for how things work. I used to be pretty horrible too

But to be perfectly honest, the main things you need to do to git gud more or less are just boost management and making your shots count (IE: never shoot at enemies while they're still mid-air or try to spazz out with beam rifle shots until they hit), it's generally a game of punishing people who make bad moves while making sure your own ass is covered too

I'd recommend playing balanced 2ks like F91, or RX-78 to get a general feel of the neutral game, because they excel at it.

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>>13886694
yeah the amazon seller i bought it for $25 for just canceled on me, i'm guessing $40 is the cheapest i can get. any secret sites to check for deals? Amiami is sold out.

normally i'd say fuck it but i heard that it has split screen co-op? is that true or is it just vs. either way i'd get it to play a gundam game with my friends and heat end them

>>13886250
Where in Texas? We practice regularly in Houston and will be going to San Antonio in March 12 to play local teams in a tournament.

>>13887460
Digital is like 3300 yen so there's that. Also yes there is splitscreen co-op for offline modes.

>>13887507
the JP shop doesnt accept american cards if i remember so you have to order gift cards or something online?

>>13887544
Yea, I usually do play-asia. You also need a JP account to get DLC/access online, so there's that.

>>13886369
How come you never comm? I always think you're angry or something.

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>>13887553
>How come you never comm?
I don't know what the comms mean so I don't use them.
Rest assured I'm never EVER angry though. No matter how hard the beatdown.

>>13887698
* Neutral: よろしくお願いします (greeting; can only be sent during the match startup period)
* Up: 前に出ます ("I'm going forward")
* Left: 了解です ("Roger that")
* Right: 援護します ("I'll cover you")
* Down: 後退します ("I'm retreating")

Mostly just pay attention to Up and Down.
Make sure to always do the greeting and thank you or make your own.

>>13887711
Ah, thank you!
Is the neutral one sent by pressing the stick or something?

>>13887716
Neutral means L1 or whatever you set your comm to and no other button.
It also during game informs your partner of your status, White means little or no damage, yellow means you've taken a bit of damage, orange is about to die and red is pretty much dead.

>>13887698
You can also customize your directional comm messages, too.

>>13887723
>a bit of damage
That's kind of an understatement, it usually means you are around a third of your armor bar.

>>13887553
I know how to set up a Jp account but how does play-asia work? Do you buy and wait for a card? Id just order the game at that point but im hoping to get it set up in time for saturday night with friends

>>13888101
You can buy the game and wait for it to be delivered like you buy anything normally online
Or
You can buy a PSN card and they will email you the code on the card within a few minutes and then you input the code on the PSN store and download it today.

>>13888114
Yeah normaly i like to own a physical copy but the month wait would kill me. Ill try and set it up tonight after work. Now to think of a nip gundam acc name

>>13887723
this one is important and should be worked a bit into your habits since your partner should know how much health you have.

>>13887507
maybe i'm doing it wrong but i'm checking the market now and it says its 4,104 yen or is that a dlc bundle?

>>13888845
would you mind showing me a picture?

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>>13889045
So far i couldnt find any other version on the market

>>13889099
it looks like the regular version, you should be able to tell from the product name since it should just be the game name.

>>13889143
yeah seems to be, bummer about the price change though or maybe i missed the sale

So i said fuck it ordered the game so i'll wait for it. in the mean time i downloaded Battle Operation Next and proceeded to go 0/13 in my Zaku

>>13889564
I log in from time to time to see the events but I doubt I will ever actually play the game again

>>13889676
yeah its controls seem shit and graphics aren't great

>>13889564
I've played some Battle Operation but I've heard Next is mediocre at best.

>>13889564
>>13889718
>>13889792
The charm and charisma of the first game is gone in favour of flashy popular units.
What I liked about BO was that you were a regular dude piloting a grunt unit (mostly but you know what I mean).
In BONext everyone is a high-school student who can't stop talking in a too colorful environment.

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I'm going to buy some unique non clone dlc units.

Any specific recommendation?

The units I want are Nataku, Harute, GNX-III (because of Patrick Colasour), Char's Zaku and at least one more unit (not interested in unicorn stuff).

Is there any of the clone 414¥ units that are worth the buy?

>>13890424
Nobel

>>13890424
Can't you "try" some of them by spending GP in arcade mode?

>>13890424
No point in buying anything that's covered by GP, by this point everyone has enough to 5 star a suit with it. All you really need is sandrock and blitz.

>>13890600
>Blitz
Does its assist involve a crying Athrun throwing Aegis's shield?

Back on topic, what's the consensus on BD unit 1? I tried it a bit but it didn't seem to have anything warranting the 2000 cost.

>>13890609
Solid mid-range suit with good mobility and a strong MG, which is also reloadable. The chest missiles allow for some power plays. Most things play into its MG, such as the assist, and the special movement. EXAM is badass.

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I am still a bit pissed off because they put so many zaku and overall zeon grunt variante but there's no GM avaiable (blue destiny doesn't count).

I really wanted a GM-Striker or those guncannons II you meet in some FB missions

>>13890609
BD 1 is pretty good from what I have seen.

>>13890609
Make sure you apply pressure with that ridiculous BD melee

>>13890424
>tfw have 508 yen
>can't buy a non clone because of a few fucking yen
FUCKING WHY

>>13892007
Just buy GNXIII or something.

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>got avalanche playable
>isn't Dash version
they skipped leg day

http://gundam-vs.jp/extreme/acmb-on/news/2016/02/18/04/

>>13893398
I doubt barbatos will be all that much better than in force.

>>13893406
was reading comments on twitter, theres changes.

>>13893418
is that right? how good do the changes sound?

>>13893426
mixed bag, better than force but its slower, stuff like that.

So tonight is the night?

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>>13884908

>>13886369
I live in UK too, but I've been used to the EU struggle of EXVSFB for a long time.

>>13894541
Forgot today was friday but yeah, I will be putting the lobby up at about 9 pm est tonight

>>13894781
I'll try and play too if I'm not already playing with other people

I've read the guides but I could never quite get the hang of melee. Could anyone give a better explanation because I always seem to lose step-wars regardless of what suit I'm suing.

>>13894861
You generally don't want to get caught up in such a thing, I honestly can't explain how you are supposed to win such a situation. The only thing I can tell you is that all melee have certain priority and if yours is higher than theirs then you will likely win but there is a bit more to it than that.

>>13894935
Like certain suits have wide enough hits that you can hit them even if they side step. You should be trying to create a scenario where you can land melees instead of getting stuck in a rainbow war since you will blow through your boost. Usually melee oriented suits have stun type tools to help you with that like Gods flame pillar or Reds gerbera throw.

>>13894861
Pretty much what >>13894935
said. As a melee you never want to get caught up in that type of shit. You'll mostly be getting your big damage in from catching people with their pants down after they boost too much and are vulnerable, pretty much all of the melee suits have tools to close distance fast and take advantage of openings like that too.

But yeah I'd recommend just staying clear from step wars, they'll just leave you vulnerable to both enemy players. I personally have taken advantage of situations like that plenty of times.

you should stream/record it so lonely weebs still waiting on the game like me can watch

>>13895014
I can stream tonight if we can get a lobby going.

>>13895191
alright, post it here when your set

Just dont play the same suits over and over nerds

>>13894781
GMT+1fag here, I'll try and stay awake until 3 AM so I can blame my being bad on sleepiness

>>13895411
I'll just play random.

Is there no way to play this game online without being kicked out in the US?

>>13894626
I just reallized the the ZZ in the Brazzers logo is highlighted.

What does it mean?

>>13896008
it's not an anime?

>>13895999
Play in a US lobby?

any lobbys tonight?

>>13896402
/m/ lobby is tonight if that is what you are asking

>>13896021
it's for reals

My connection is 3 bars out of 6... Do you guys think it's enough?
In from Europe so I don't think I can get much better than that.

>>13896467
it should be blue on your side no matter what? we'll see I guess.

>>13896476
dont read moonrunes so guessing

>Consoles? nah man arcade fans would love them on handhelds!

>>13896467
Who knows? We will see how well it plays, sometimes matches play out fine for me even though my connection supposedly went down.

when is the lobby

>>13896523
lobby is up, message or whatever for invite

>>13896530
stream when

>>13896553
when we get 4

>>13896530
Sure!
First timer here, name is volga86hakase

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>>13896476
Was this fake??

>>13896565
Thanks
I pressed O in the room and started a match with CPUs
At least there's four of us now

stream up at twitch tv/odanobunas

>>13896584
Fake or no, MB is never coming to you gaijin losers, deal with it :^)

>>13896639
I don't care about an overseas release, I just want a console version...

volga the entire sidestepping animation doesn't cut tracking so there isn't much point in dragging it out

Could i get an invite? Nosoupfaze

>>13896755
gimme a sec

>>13896764
sent

>that Zaku punching Wing in the face.

beautiful

>>13896724
Well, looks like I need to practice with the basics and familiarize with more units.
Thanks for the ride, everyone. Almost 5 AM here so I'll be going!

>>13897007
GGs

>>13897007
ggs

>>13897007
GGs!

imma take a break brb in a few

Well it seems it was fault of my family using the fucking wifi, but still ty for the games.

>>13897095
GGs

>>13897095
ggs

>>13897095
ggs

of all ways to die it had to be by a magic kick

memepicks paying off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAf4IW5eSWM

MAXI BOOST ON

trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=oAf4IW5eSWM

PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGxxgJmYMI

>>13896755
Can I get an inv too?
Falchionata

luma pls dont cut my melee combos

i'm out, ggs.

how did this turn into an epyon room

>>13897378
ggs

>>13897378
ggs

>>13897378
GGs

>>13897329
sent

Im done for tonight ggs

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>>13897327
this guy better be playable.

Goddamn it that lag

>>13897420
ggs

>>13897420
ggs

>>13897420
GGs

I'll be closing the lobby soon, I'll do three more matches

>>13897478
Aight. I was gonna say.

GG

GGs everyone

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ggs all

GGs, everyone. Thanks for the matches.

>>13897421
I'm betting it will be or at least there will be one for Sthesia or however you spell her name.

>>13897327
Forget Maxi Boost, let me have a console version of this, instead.

I dun wanna learn another meta!

>>13896584
it's real

>>13896483
it's promo material sent to arcades assuring them that getting Maxiboost cabinets is a good investment because they promise they won't release it on consoles with multiplayer

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>>13897542
sthesia is totally getting a playable suit. this pink gundam thing
>>13897977
how do you know its real?

>>13898076
>hurrrr i'm too retarded to goggle so its faek

are you retarded?

>>13898079
i've seen that picture on dozens of websites some say its legit others say its fake. so no google isn't helping

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>>13897421
it looks freaking awesome I hope so. I like the Leos gundams but some of them just have too much shit slapped on them. the G Gundam knockoff is the best version imo so this simpler black one looks great.

>>13897327
>They don't show off the new ON units, like FX and Akatsuki
>They just show G-Self and Barbatos again

Lame.

>>13898141
>in PV only shows Space pack Akatsuki
uh oh, 2k earth pack akatsuki cagalli piloted confirmed.

>>13882319
>MB-On coming march 9th
Yeah. To arcades.
PS4 port when?
Why won't Japan move on from arcades like the rest of the civilized world?

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>>13898040
lel at least they're adding some new units in the next update

>>13898144
Oowashi Akatsuki should be 2.5k imo.

If that means you make Shiranui Akatsuki a 3k then so be it. But I think Shiranui could also afford to remain a 2.5k

Really, the only cost-related grievance I genuinely have is Infinite Justice not being a 3k. Among other reasons, because it means it's sort of in the way for a possible 2.5k Saviour.

>>13898623
But isn't Saviour, armament wise, just a Launcher Strike with some melee instead of missiles?
Why would it be a 2500?
I love the ms and played it a lot in OMNI vs ZAFT (piloted by Ray the Barrel because fuck Assram) but even in that game I felt it was too expensive for what it had to offer.

>>13898552
I could be wrong but AFAIK the engine is the same as EXFB so they might release it for the PS3... Which would be fantastic because I have no quadruple.
If they really wanted to drop the PS3 support they might make it into a PS Vita game, I guess...?

i wish they'd release mb ps3/4 already

>>13898865
You're an idiot.

Anyone know the song from the Maxi Boost On intro?

>>13898970
"no future" by SiT iirc.

So MB-On will have IBO and GReco unlocks? Klim and Gali-Gali playable when?

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>>13898989
>Kimaris playable
that'd be cool

Anyone now if they are having a presentation for maxiboost? my friend was sayin somethin about it.

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>tfw barbatos's song will probably be the generic second OP instead of RAISE YOUR FLAG or O~RU~FEN~S NAMIDA

>>13898970
It's literally advertised at the end of the PV, don't be a lazy shitter.

>>13897327
So... build fighter units never? i mean if it is because they were gunpla that makes no sence since they added perfect gundam. I just want GM k9 or zaku amazing

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why bamco being stingy over MB PS3/4?

>>13899187
Can't be sapping dat arcade cabinet juice.


That said, I do anticipate a console port of Maxi once On releases.

>>13898808
It should be a 2.5k because that's the cost bracket for those units. Freedom is not a 3k, and ok let's accept that, but if Freedom is 2.5k then Providence should also be 2.5k (and it is in maxi). Because of the technology jump, I think it's ok for Impulse to be a 2.5k like Freedom because in terms of specs it's only a tiny bit less than Freedom anyways, and is definitely above the Strike.

So since Saviour is a deuterion unit piloted by an ace pilot. It should be to Aegis (so, to Strike) what Cherudim is to Dynames. While Infinite Justice should certainly be on par with Strike Freedom and Destiny.

And in terms of armament, of course the Saviour isn't just a Launcher Strike (what?). It has an MA mode, it has a beam rifle, it should have at-least-decent-probably-good melee, since it's piloted by Athrun...

So it should be a hit & run unit, a la Delta Plus, but for the 2.5k bracket, so it has more options. It's not the Justice, so it shouldn't have amazing melee, but it should be decent; it should have a good MA mode, with handy ways to transform from one to the other; and its single-hit-knockdown plasma cannons make for the rest. In OMNI vs ZAFT it also had a Luna-ZAKU style charge shot, which is something that should also put a suit with high mobility further up in the cost bracket.

A Delta Plus that trades the assist for more overall damage, an instant knockdown move, and more damaging/better priority melee is already decent enough for a 2.5k, imo. Add in the charge shot and you not only have a decent 2.5k, but a good one.

>>13899209
Applying in-show performance to suit cost is fucking stupid and you should stop right now.

Tier cost is really just determined by suit performance IN-GAME rather than some weird criteria like it being piloted by Athrun. Have you even played MB? Perfect Strike has bad melee, despite having an ASS, IJ has average melee at best and would definitely perform better as a lower cost than as a 3k.

D+ biggest strength is the rate of fire it can throw out and that assist is extremely important for it to do its job. Lose that assist, and you will lose a critical piece of why D+ is a solid 2k.

From your deductions it's painfully obvious that and have no arcade experience, no offence.

Besides, do recall that suits jump costs all the time,

Master 2k, Ksha 3k in NP, Ksha, x2, Sazabi 2.5k in EXVS, etc.

Hell, Sinanju doesn't even feel like a 3k, but combining the benefits of both forms into a single package would make it a very very strong 2.5k.

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>>13899283
>Have you even played MB?
come on, 90% of the posters in this thread can't even play MB. but yeah taking away D+ assist would kill it.

>>13899283
You're a ridiculous person. I'm sorry I talked to you.

And I don't care about Delta Plus. Yes its assist is great, but I don't give a shit. I'm trying to figure out a moveset for Saviour. Delta Plus was just a springing board to argue for a hit & run unit in the 2.5k bracket, which is what Saviour would end up attempting to be. No one cares if it ends up being bad, there's plenty of bad units on all cost brackets.

>>13899321
>not living as in Asia

why
don't even give me that
>being asian
witty retordt, you could be an aryan expat and people here would clamor for a chance to suck your dick. Sure you'd still be an outsider, but there's a certain reverence to being white that you get from asians in general.

No idea why we like white dick so much, shit baffles me to this day.

>>13899283
lol so a unit needs to be good to be qorth adding? That's stupider than anything that other anon said. It's obvious he was arguing from flavor, and from that he has a point.

>>13899332
Some actual arcade experience would be good, so there's some actual substance to your arguments.

Sorry to pull the Arcade player card on you, but there are plenty of Western players like TeamFoxGG who have no clue what they're talking about but pretend they do because they're drawing from personal experience in their own funrooms and internal competitions.

>>13899340
No, you can add literally any suit you want, but making claims like IJ should be on par with SF and Destiny because it's nucular powered is silly.

>>13899342
You keep playing the arcade card like it means something in this discussion.

>>13899350
It isn't. It's a matter of flavor. Just buff its melee and movement some and call it a day. What the fuck is your damage.

>>13899351
Hey if you know something about MB that I don't, I'm all ears. I'm just curious as to what experience you're drawing from.

>>13899359
What is YOUR damage? Despite voicing out my opinion that so-and-so may be talking out of his depth, I haven't been impolite so far. I haven't called anon a faggot or used any direct profanities.

If you think my usage of the term "fucking stupid" is overly harsh, then I apologise, but I wasn't aware this board was such a hugbox.

>>13899336
what the hell are you smoking getting this mad over a post you're responding to..

>>13899360
I'm not getting into that argument because it has nothing to do with what's being discussed here. Let's say you're right about Delta plus, it makes no difference to my point. None. It could be made to work, because anything could be made to work. Or do you think the units tell the developers where is it they should belong? Or do you think it was Sinanju who went "oh no mr. developer! don't put me in 2.5k now that i have both my melee and my shooting pack in a single set! that would be OP! put me in 3k instead! c: "?

If they wanted to, they could take those exact assets and make a suit so bad it would be at the bottom of 1k. Something as trivial as putting IJ in 3k could be done in a fucking afternoon. Just like they could easily give some shooty assist to Saviour if you're so desperate to keep Delta Plus pristine and untouched.

So, as I said, nobody cares that you've played at an arcade you weirdo.

>>13899394
>Or do you think the units tell the developers where is it they should belong?

Of course it does.You do realise Gundam Vs is one of, if not the biggest competitive arcade games in Japan?

Do you think the devs are ignorant people who don't even know their own game? Did you think the devs aren't aware of how each suit performs? Did you know that the devs literally asked the top players of last year's PDF and got responses that SF/Norn/Blitz/Sandrock etc. were just too good? Guess what got nerfed in the following months.

Take the issue of TG2 being too good, it's not as if the devs never tried to to deal with it. It's gone through at least two separate nerfs over two separate patches. So yes, they're not going to make changes (be it a cost migration or otherwise) willy-nilly if they think there's no good reason for it.

So yes, units DO tell devs where it is they should belong, just not literally in that anecdote you provided.

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>>13899428
>Did you think the devs aren't aware of how each suit performs?
they know...they just don't care ;_;

>>13899434
We gave it a gerobi assist now :^)

Whoa, guys, calm down.
>>13898808 here, my main point was that I'm not sure what the Saviour could offer as a 2500 unit.
If we have to argue about anything it's why Azrael-sama still isn't available as an operator. Or Dorothy. Or Kai and Duke from Battle for Earth. Or Honey Asana. I would buy them, no questions asked.

>>13899428
You're a ridiculous, ridiculous person. I'm very sorry I ever talked to you.

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>Took 3 damn games to get some needed attention

>>13899428
Do you think we're talking to the devs right now, is that what it is? You think saviour anon over here is about to call his uncle at bandai or some shit? You're making absoutely no sense.

>>13899449
Tell me which of that isn't actually true and didn't happen. The changelogs are all in the main website that can be tracked by date. Go ahead and see for yourself.

>>13899394
Kshatriya and X2 were both extremely underperforming 2.5ks in vanilla. A cost change was done in order to make them more viable because they had tools that served better in a 2k role and didn't have the firepower that warranted a 2.5k role.

You don't even have to be an arcade player to realise that cost changes wer made more for blance rather than because devs can :^))))

>>13899448
Welp, *my* main point was that it could work as a hit & run MA suit for the 2.5k bracket. Lightning bruiser archetype. I think there's space for that in the bracket, and saviour can be made to fill that role pretty well.

>>13899463
The truth of your claims is irrelevant, you're a ridiculous person because you're too self-important to be able to follow a thread of discussion. It's laughable.

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>>13898138
HG When?

>>13899479
Your implication that devs make cost migration changes without any feedback from suit performance is fucking silly and has no basis in the first place.

It's laughable that you would try to deflect the argment into a judgment of character instead of addressing the counterarguments presented to you, simply because you have no clue what you're talking about.

>>13899474
>Red Dragon, TG2, Xenon, Zeydra, Freedom, Arios, Banshee, Arche, Brave Commander, Zeta, Destiny

Asides from some slightly below average HP units like Aexia, 2.5ks generally ARE the lightning bruiser archtype.

>>13899428
The devs do plenty of flavor-motivated additions like luna impulse tho, and they follow flavor for how to make them work. Stop pretending to be more on point than you actually are.

>>13899492
You made no counterarguments.

I said "this is why I think saviour should be a 2.5k" in a universe where no saviour exists in no cost bracket.

You said "Delta plus does not do what you say it does, I play in arcades".

And you took it from there. You have made no counterarguments, because you don't understand what is being argued. Your head is just too up your ass to notice.

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>>13899509
>flavor-motivated additions like luna impulse
>those clones
i love and hate them. love them because i get pilots of suits i really like, elle, roux, crazy quatre etc but i hate them because of the shitty-ness of being a straight clone. if they made them at very least semi-clones i'd be happy.

>>13899521
Semi-clones like Gato's Gelgoog?

>>13899512
Not him, that's pretty much the Arios and Perfect Strike to an extent.

>>13899533
yeah at least that, a different ex burst attack isn't enough

>>13899512
You basically a role that's pretty much Arios, but now it has two beam cannons now. Well done.

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>>13899543
>>13899535
whats wrong with suits have similar roles? we've got a million bazooka/funnel guys

i mean i'd like to see gadessa playable and have him something akin to Zeydra style gameplay, just remove xrounder mode for a Hilling assist.

>>13899535
Good point. I'd totally forgotten Arios. Perfect Strike feels a little more lumbering to me than what I have in mind, but Arios is certainly close. Having him there is an argument for just not adding Saviour, desu, since Arios also makes sense as a 2.5k (far more than it did as a 1k anyways).

I still would like to see it, but now I have less confidence I will. I like Saviour, but it really doesn't make sense anywhere else, flavor wise.

>>13899512
How would you differentiate saviour from 2.5ks that are already doing pretty much what you've described? As already mentioned, Arios is pretty much spot on, Hylerion has that similar D+ style ranged support role with a quick sub/2b knockdown. I'm all for Saviour but there's no point if it's a clone under the guise of a different suit.

>>13899574
Yeah, there's plenty of similar suits around. And it's also not true that Saviour could never be anything more than just Arios with a twist.

>>13899574
>more prettyboys
I think it's time Sergei made his appearance instead.
Just... What would he pilot? Tieren? GN-X? I'd rather he wasn't a Patrick clone with the civilian GN-X III.

Speaking of Maxi Boost, is Rising a 1000 or a 1500? I think the site lists it as 1500 but I'm not sure that category even exists.

>>13899597
1500.

>>13899592
who would Saviour be anything like Arios, like at all? Because they both transform?

arios has scissor shoulders to grab people, has missiles for support, has a permanent assist, a good CSa, wrist vuclans. Saviour would have none of that. Saviour would be a quick transformation melee suit. I think Saviour would be closer to F91 than arios

>>13899574
There's nothing wrong with suits with similar roles but as silly as this sounds there has to be something that makes it viable and offer something another does not, or else you'd just end up with another Legend which no one actually uses.

Clones at least have the excuse of being clones with watered down versions of their originals' movesets.

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>>13899597
>doesn't want an skittle lacky
come on anon.

>>13899605
Anon originally described it as a Dplus style 2.5k, with decent melee, a quick knockdown tool, very high pressure and an MA form, all of which Arios already has.

who gives a fuck give us more suits from X or age before more seed garbage

>>13899606
>Clones at least have the excuse of being clones with watered down versions of their originals' movesets.
i strongly disagree, they're a waste of space and shouldn't have been created. waste of time for the devs, and waste of money for the VAs when they could have gotten someone else in. like i'd rather lose 20 clones to get 2 decent new units

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>>13899616

>>13899618
There's a good number of clones that are better than the originals like Hamaguy, GF Mina and Hexa. You could argue that they could have just cost migrated them, but it's not as if some clones haven't been pleasant surprises that brought something to the table.

>>13899582
Well, I don't know if it would need to be a clone under the guise of a different suit, but I also don't claim to know how to make it the most original it could be.

I guess my standard approach, which would be open to modification would be: since other anon was angry that I took Delta plus assist, let's say Saviour has an assist, and it's Luna using her beam like Penelope's CSa (the horizontal one, yeah? maybe with more range? dunno. It's not shooty like Delta Plus, but for now who cares, it might be cool and is open to change anyways).
For sub, it has plasma cannon knockdown like the ones on F91, with good damage, good speed, good recovery. CSa is gerobi a la Launcher Impulse. Special melee is quickly turning into/out of MA mode. Give it good-ish melee options. Give it a 6 shot BR.

In MA mode melee attack is safe-ish and turns him back to MS mode at the end of it. Maaaaybe, in MA mode it has a dash instead of Luna assist? that might be too much.

>>13899635
those are semi-clones, i'm okay with those, shit like silver sumo is horrible.

>>13899606
I thought Legend was pretty good tho. Back melee is abusable to hell and back.

>>13899646
silver sumo is an abomination

>>13899615
That's totally open to change tho. D+ish is just what I would like to play, not what it needs to be for the game. I agree with the anon you're answering to that it would be cool if it was sorta like F91. All I'm really thinking is high mobility, good knockdowns, decent melee, 2.5k, but however that's achieved is open to debate.

>>13899618
I'm sorry I'm enjoying the clone suits whilst you bellyache over what might be.

>>13899646
Is luna impulse full clone or semi-clone do you think?

>>13899670
It's shit.

I'd like to see clones based on suit transformations.
Like a 2k ZZ that's already purged.
Or a 3k Strike that's always in IWSP mode.

>>13899683
lol

>>13899631
What about Airmaster and Leopard playing tag?

>>13899691
Maxi has 2.5K EZZ.

It's got Puru assist and split torso attacks.

>>13899693
its tru tho

>>13899691
Strike not having a phase shift down, knifes-and-vulcans-only zombie mode is the real crime.

>>13899691
>Strike that's always in IWSP mode

You mean Strike Noir?

>>13899209
Injustice is 25 so you can pair him with Kira.

>>13899694
They could potentially be solo if done right but as long as they get in I wouldn't mind as long as they aren't shitty kapool tier.

>>13899665
My apologies having a different opinion that you good sir
>>13899670
Imo it's a clone.
>>13899694
I think a hero's style 2 units in one would fit better

>>13899767
Meant jerid damn auto correct

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are they going to criminally ignore Crossbone again or actually give it some unlocks?

>>13900940
X, F91, Victory, Turn A and Crossbone all deserve more unlocks.
Series first unlocks are also appreciated.

>>13898086
It's from the same fucking promo catalog quoted for the UC TV series which people were whining about last week going WAHHHHHHH FAEK CITATION NEEDED and we all know how that turned out >>13901005

>>13901014
by all means show me the picture the post you linked me to only talks about the UC tv series not MB PS3

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>>13895411
>DragoonSystem guy hosting a lobby
>He literally only plays five stars Banshee Norn with cheap fucking attacks all the time
>sure is fun to fight against kids

I really wish there was a lobby for 1000's shit suits with machine guns or just grunts.

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>>13895707
Don't worry, you are going to get stomped anyway by the usual suspects; don't blame your timezone or inexperience.

>>13901139
There is nothing wrong with play cheap suits
The problem is when everyone is and you end up fighting the same characters over and over again with no variety.

>>13898560
>no new 1000's

how many of those things are going to be dlc?

>>13901157
hey if i get a Treize Leo i'm good.

>>13901153
I understand what you mean but, still, it's a bit overwhelming for those new players trying to get a grip in multiplayer.

One thing is being beaten and therefore learning from mistakes and another one is losing over and over without even being able to counterattack because the one that is stomping all the time uses the same cheap unit for every match.

Everyone is of course free to use the unit he/she likes but one thing is having fun and one is fucking runing the game for other newcomers especially when you are randomly paired with another high ranked player against two unranked 1 star players. One would simply ragequit after a couple of matches or try to learn ONLY that cheap shot unit he was stomped by, which will reduce his future performances and unit choice.

>>13901168
>Leo
You do realize that any Leo iteration is going to explode by merely being in the presence of a gundam?

>>13901153
I still remember the time I entered a shuffle with only faucs and tgiis, it was the dullest lobby I had ever been a part of.

>>13901151
>usual suspects
>implying anyone besides 3 people even play here anymore
lmao

>>13901190
>You do realize that any Leo iteration is going to explode by merely being in the presence of a gundam?
not the treize version he doesn't only treize can blow himself up, but having a Gun Ez style assists would be god tier.

>>13901261
I do like that in this game some units relies on self destruction for real.

>>13901256
well, everytime I see an US/EU lobby there's 10-12 players so we at least have a dozen.

Are the rental units (the ones you can borrow by spending GP) fixed or do they cycle?
I've noticed not all of them are available for rent.

Speaking of which, if I start an arcade mode with a rented mobile suit when do I "lose" it? After completing the arcade course?

>>13905034
The gp units are fixed and you lose the unit after you complete arcade or give up I believe

>>13899691
ZZ is in maxi already

>>13882435
Why doesn't it work? I actually just bought a copy and it says "the best" on the cover. I hope I'm not fucked.

>>13906132
Maxi is never coming to console.

You're already well fucked, friend.

>>13906671
Irrelevant

>>13906671
I don't mind. Up until now the only version I played was Next Plus. It being at MAGfest is 90% of why I go.

If I can't play online though, then I wasted some money. My copy of the game is new and has the online pass and some dlc code. If all I have to do is create a JP PSN account then fine.

>>13906816
I think you need a Japanese/Asian PSN account, depending on which version of the game you own.

Oh hey, all burst supers in Maxi Boost:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1v5eP_aKrY

Didn't know they changed some of them for suits that were in FB, like WZC's.

>>13906816
The online pass in the game only works on that with a JP/Asian account
Make one in 5 minutes and enjoy

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Can I play online if I pirate this? Unlocalized shit isn't worth my money.

>>13908031
No.

>>13898928
Why is he an idiot? MB is just an expansion with few characters, hardly a system seller. It would be pity to drop the PS3 support.

>>13907798
>AGE-1
what the FUCK is with that down value

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>>13907798
I really hope the conquest stages end up usable in the console version of whatever the next game we get is, though I know deep down it'll just be the same as the mission mode exclusives in FB. Well at least we have two extreme evolutions.

>>13908140
アスランはおもちゃじゃないんだぞ

>>13907798
>all burst cutins
Nice

>>13908031
So you think that localized games worth your money? What is your money? Fake rocks?

>>13908031
Yes. You still need to buy an online pass.

>>13908271
Athrun is pretty much the punching bag of Maxi Boost, isn't he?

>>13908140
Some of those are fighting boss Infinite Justice, who pretty much cannot be downed.

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why is the Master Gundam a 3000?

>>13906816
online pass and dlc code are compatible ONLY with a JPN account

>>13912746
Why not?

>>13912755
I mean, what does justify master being a 3000 while god is a 2500? Number of attacks?

>>13912757
Stronger tools, and better melee strings? God gets changed to a 3k in Maxi Boost you know.