If /m/ is to expose IBO for what it is then proof is going to

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It's time

>>13868330
>Nagai and Mari apology yet?
Here I thought it was an /m/ joke

>>13868330
I dont even like IBO but this is really fucking lame. You tried this before and your thread fucking died. Just let it fade into irrelevance.

>>13868376
Yeah seriously, I mean
>expose ibo for what it is
there's what 4 or 5 threads on the show and they're all shitting on it, so what's the point of this thread? You don't need to tell anybody the shows shit, I think they get it already.

>>13868408
>so what's the point of this thread? You don't need to tell anybody the shows shit, I think they get it already.

I still see a lot of people going on how great it is, praising Mika's character growth and how there's so much story there must be a season 2. OP appears to want us to create an anti-IBO image so strong it works on those types of people.

>>13868420
exactly

>>13868408
>there's what 4 or 5 threads on the show and they're all shitting on it
Citation? None of those threads are being hard on it.

>>13868420
>I still see a lot of people going on how great it is, praising Mika's character growth and how there's so much story there must be a season 2.
Where are these people? MAL, Reddit, and Tumblr?

>>13868427
Anime Suki frequently masturbates to this anime.

>>13868433
Don't most anime forums have a large population of people who will watch almost anything and praise it even if it's dogshit?

>>13868427
Friends who keep showing me posts from those places to convince me I'm being too hard on IBO.

>>13868439
I don't know how that helps their case. Popular opinion isn't always a good indicator of quality.

People who think IBO is the worst series have not watched enough Gundam. It's okay not good but not bad either.

>>13868433
I've seen them harass people that point out obvious flaws, it is anit-/m/. Either that or AS is Holy Terra and /m/ is the Eye of Terror.

>>13868420
>>13868427
>>13868433
right so you're just exporting /m/s shitposting.
Well look coming up with some autistic chart like this just makes you look pathetic, you're never going to convince these kinds of people to stop eating shit. We know its not getting an S2, just rub in their face after the show ends and wraps everything up. Or months later when theres still no s2 announcement. Half of these people will just forget this shit when the shows over anyway and move on to whatever else is flavour of the month. and if you've got to show them anything, just show them sales data.

>>13868463
I'm not OP, you mongoloid. I don't hate IBO at all, but the show now feels like it forgot what it was trying to do storywise.

>>13868330
This image proves nothing about IBO. All I see is biased opinions of people who are having fun by shitposting a show which is not that popular to begin with.
You guys should find something better to do with your lives, this is pathetic.

>>13868463
The sales data are sayning that it's selling more than the two or three previous entries in the franchise
>hurr durr half-priced volume
It doesn't change the fact that 10k people bought it in the first two weeks.

>tfw my friend likes this show

Should I GM fiat murder his character in my TTRPG group?

Just because you switched to IBO doesn't make it any less obvious who you are, Valvrager.

>>13868485
>It doesn't change the fact that 10k people bought it in the first two weeks.
yeah back when there was still promise, its dropped significantly since then and currently its viewership is worse than ages

>>13868490
I'm not Valvrager

>>13868330
You're pathetic. How about you use all that autistic time to do something useful, like exposing corrupt politicians or something?

>>13868628
But politicians spend plenty of time exposing themselves.

>>13868420
>praising Mika's character growth
What fucking growth.

>>13868632
The growth in his harem.

>>13868631
There is a Ghostbusters 2 joke in this somewhere.

>>13868450
Yup, but they still persist to get me to lighten up on their new favorite Gundam. I think for one or two of them they're trying to get back at me for G-Reco. They hated it and kept saying it didn't make sense. I loved it and kept explaining what was going on, and I guess those guys felt dumb or something afterwards.

>>13868632
>What fucking growth.

"Oh, Mika has all these emotions deep within him and he's beginning to learn how to properly express them. He really doesn't understand being human."

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>>13868639

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>>13868330
STOP SON PLEASE! I UNDERSTAND JENNY LAUGHED AT YOU AND PUSHED YOU INTO THE POOL WHEN YOU ASKED HER OUT BUT POSTING POOP ON SIBERIAN ICE STORAGE GULAGS LIKE 4 CHAN IS NEVER GOING TO FILL THE VOID!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQetFlEK1Wg&index=3&list=PLeIdbu1RWlzBvT_LGrKTfacj2_1-Pl1st

>>13868490
At least everything he says on IBO it's actually true this time

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>>13868330
Not a really a fan of IBO but it's not bad enough to warrant an image like that. The only real issue I have with it is it focuses a ton on character development yet hardly reveals more about the characters we haven't known since like episode 5.

"Fierce Shitposting! Launch, Valvrager Mk-II!"

>>13868427
>Reddit
Only Anime likes IBO, /r/Gundam mostly doesn't like it (Example: The Show That Doesn't Have Robots Picture)

IBO is aight by me. You guys are just being contrarian as usual.

>>13870056
The nips don't like it either, so I don't think it's a contrarian opinion.

>>13870075
they don't like anything anymore.

>>13868486

Wouldn't that make you the scum of GMs, then? /tg/'s gold standard of That GM?

>>13870084
Just like /m/

>>13870101
Yeah, I'd basically be a Jesta at that point.

>>13868408
>>expose ibo for what it is

What it is, is one of the better Gundam TV series in the past 20 years.
It shits all over Seed and Wing, and the show isn't even finished yet.

>>13870166
>better than Seed or Wing
Congrats, you've reached the top of a pile of garbage.
Is this really supposed to be an accomplishment?

It's worse than GBF, X, 00, Turn-A, and by animation alone, G-Reco Unicorn and yes, Wing. So that makes it better than Age (not really) Seed, GSD, Igloo, Evolve and BFT? Hardly anything to be proud about

>>13870115
Sadly that seems to be the case, I’m sure is nostalgia but I remember really liking this board a lot back in the days, now it seems is mostly people raging at each other

What about G-reco?

IBO is not that exciting and pretty predictable, but I don't see why would anyone hate it.
I even like the slow pacing, it's just too bad it's not used to put in light more interesting character interactions.
People will forget about it in a couple of years anyway.

>>13870182
Lack of mods does that.

>>13870488
I'm actually surprised this place isn't filled with cp, considering the lolicon populace here and meido fapping in the kigurumi thread in /jp/.

>>13870182
/m/ has gotten better since Ruri is now gone.

>>13870182
>Sadly that seems to be the case, I’m sure is nostalgia but I remember really liking this board a lot back in the days, now it seems is mostly people raging at each other
Any decent new /m/ show would generally have better discussions on /a/. The only thing /m/ has real ownership on is Gundam.

>>13870555
The slow mecha anime go largely ignored on /m/ and /a/.

>>13870056
Liking IBO would be contrarian.

>>13870166
Shits over by being more boring, inconsistent, poorly animated and lacking in development than both?
I don't remember 99% of the cast being forgotten or irrelevant in seed or wing.

>>13870166
It's nowhere near better than Seed or Wing. It has worse characters, worse suits and worse fights. The plot actually advanced in those shows.

>>13870635
This, I can't believe some faggots unironically believe that
https://twitter.com/MilesExpress999/status/688789524378447872

>>13870644
Wing is such ridiculous in everything that the only way to like is to not take it seriously. It's also true for Seed, but that one is way more annoying and the art being horrendous doesn't help.

The fact that IBO might be better that any TV Gundam in the past 10 years is pretty much guaranteed by this point, unless the ending is a major fuck-up (and it could very well be, I'm not delusional). The only one which would compare is the first season of 00.

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>>13868330
how are you even going to that much effort to shitpost
jesus christ
if you don't like a thing, don't fucking talk about it

>>13868420
>Oh look how much I hate this thing. Surely by seeing this collection of screencaps form anonymous cartoon forum makes you hate the thing too.

Try making a mspaint comic, those usually work a lot better.

>>13868463
>show ends and wraps everything up.
Why would it need season 2 if it wraps everything up?
I'd understand if it left everything hanging with no season 2, but what's bad about having an ending?
I don't get it.

>>13870034
Funny how people who generally are into anime like it for it's a good show, while people who are into Gundam are all like "not enough space battles and not enough different toys".

>>13871312
Nice try, but IBO literally does nothing well. Not storytelling, animation, etc.

>>13871316
Well, too bad you can't enjoy it. But no worries, there are plenty of fish in the sea and you'll probably find things you like to watch.
Meanwhile I keep looking forward for Sundays.

>>13871319
I look forward to finding new ways to shit on it every Sunday.

>>13870555
>Any decent new /m/ show would generally have better discussions on /a/
Yeah, those 500+ post Exodus threads on /a/ were great!

>>13871323
Ok.
Here's a question. Why you keep watching it?
I understand that people don't like it, and they have their reasons.
I might not agree with those reasons, but I don't deny them.
But why someone wastes time watching something they hate?

I'm a fucking no life neet and I still think that watching stuff I don't want to watch is waste of time.

>>13871334
>Why you keep watching it?
1. It has gundam in the title.
2. I like complaining about it on /m/.
3. It's only 24 minutes a week. Not a huge waste of time.

>>13871327
Nobody cares about your meme show.

>>13868330
Last 2 episodes were pretty good. Overall the show is watchable but I would say the worst gundam series yet, and also worse than A/Z

>>13871375
I should watch A/Z at some point.
See if referenced in IBO threads occasionally, and I must assume that if /m/ hates it, it's probably good.

>>13871334
The best way to summon shitposting is to praise something, this is just a reaction to all the praise IBO was getting.
Opposite is also true, extreme shitposting summons praise. It's what happened with G-reco.

>>13871383
It's as bad as IBO but has a little more charm (despite being soulless)

>>13871383
Always do the opposite of what /m/ does.

>>13871387
>It's as bad as IBO but has a little more charm (despite being soulless)
What does this even mean? Does it mean that it focuses on characters and their interactions over space wars?

>>13870034
It gets praised out the yin-yang at /r/gundam. Hell, I've seen people complain that if you say anything bad about the show there, even in the most thought out way, you'll get downvoted to hell. At best, there are people who are arguing it's not that good but a bunch of the guys there love it and keep telling each other that season 2 has been confirmed.

>Mika has literally none of the charm that Heero or Setsuna do

I've been waiting for Mika to have his moment of development like the other two autistic stoic MCs but he's still the same as the beginning. Heero eventually became a bit more human and Setsuna changed a ton.

And even ignoring development, early Heero had his over the top autism and borderline insanity and Setsuna had his gundam obsession while having his child soldier PTSD handled better.

Mika on the other hand is very flat and at this point he doesn't even seem to be a MC, he's just The Pilot while Orga and Kudelia are the actual MCs.

>>13870827
It's not even the best Gundam series in the last 2 years. BF blows it away.

>>13873217
Found the retard.

>all this justification people need to hate on it
>when IBO's biggest crime is that it's fucking boring.

>>13868330
someones never seen age or g-reco

>>13868632
him becoming human is his character arc

>>13873230
IBO does nothing better than BF. BF has better fights, better characters who develop, a variety of units and a better plot that develops.

>>13873268
At least things happen in G-Wrecko.

>>13873278
really stupid things that make me angry so at least ibo is a step in the right direction

>>13873275
Bit anon! It's for children! It's not a serious mature story for serious mature adults such as me!
IBO is like all the non-newtype UC series except gooder because it doesn't have gay pink lasers!

>>13873283
Take your soma.

>>13873303
yeah fuck you too buddy

Sunrise is shit. Gundam is shit.

Move along folks. Heard that a thousand times.

>>13870551
You mean worse

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>>13873321
>everyone with good taste unanimously agree that ibo is shit
>MUST B8
Yeah no. Snap out of whatever delusion you're into.

>>13873328
tell me something how much of ibo have you seen?

>Love kinetic weapon fights
>IBO looks to be pretty cool and all about kinetic
>Go in pretty excited
>First episode couple episodes seem good but then quickly drops

>>13873275

It's interesting that despite being much less dramatic and investing a lot of time in tournament fights, BF has more endearing and better developed characters than IBO.

>>13873843
I liked BF but its a comedy and the characters weren't well developed

>>13873946
Still much better than any IBO character.

>>13870837

Fun fact, Australians hate Fosters and never drink it, that bloke holding the beer can there confirmed for fraud.

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>Saying IBO is the worst even though SEED exists.

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>>13873975
>Implying SEED is worse than IBO.

>>13873963
He's just holding it to make you think that, this is advanced Australian double-shitposting

>>13874008
Need i mention that bullshit with Jesus Yamato

>>13874026
Granted, that was somewhat distasteful, but the story is good overall, and the conflict between the Naturals and Coordinators is a nice metaphor for humanity and the prejudices we set against ourselves and others.

>>13874039
I would've been satisfied with it ending when Shinn blew him up. but come on three times realistically he is supposed to die. The kid had a nuclear reactor explode five feet above his head

>>13874039
>>13874051
Also the cop-out that was Seed mode.

>>13874053
>>13874051
Realistically, less likely things have happened in Gundam, it's not too hard to believe that he was lucky enough to survive near-death that many times. For all we know, the suit was built with the reactor exploding in mind. Also, Seed mode was fine.

>>13874062
Seed mode wasn't fine when it was used as an "oh shit getting my ass kicked" last minute power up. And no it is hard to believe that even Jesus Yamato was lucky enough to cheat death itself three frickin times. That's about as likely as me not dying alone.

>>13874072
Well of course someone would save their A-game for when they need it most, it makes sense to. And consider that this is a story about extraordinary circumstances. The technology necessary to make a mecha capable of the things we see in the Gundam series is leaps and bounds ahead of our own tech, so it would be reasonable to assume their safety features would also be more advanced than ours when they're incorporating nuclear reactors into single-pilot vehicles/mechs. You may be overthinking it.

>people talking about character development

Mika talks more? Is that fucking all?
Even Gutsman hasn't got past the human debris shit.
This is horse shit.

>>13868438
unlike /a/ and /m/ ?

>>13868330
IBO is Wing of our time not only in terms of story ,plot and characters but also how many newfags it has garnered

Still not a farce called A.Z

IBO is just kinda mediocre. Being right down the middle leads to people either over rating it or shitting on it so much that makes it seem worse than anything else.

>>13875425
Look, based on animation alone and ambition behind the story, Wing is easily superior.

I do see the parallels however, but I had to do some mental gymnastics.

>>13875425
Wing is a better show all the way around.

>>13874051
Huh? When did he have that? Are you talking about when Freedom is taken down in SEED Destiny? The reactor didn't explode at all. The explosion was above the Archangel as it sunk under the water. It then cuts to Kira, explicitly having shown him shut down his unit's reactor so it wouldn't go off.

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But... but I actually like this show, I'm enjoying it, I don't blame some people for not noticing, but Mikazuki is becoming more empathetic and less of a psychopath, see "you're having fun killing people"
It's not fucking flawless, but atleast it's not as shit as Zeta.

>>13878515

I also enjoy it. I don't think it's spectacular by any stretch but /m/ got a massive hateboner for it. It's impossible to even talk about.

Just duck and cover and find somewhere else to talk about it online if you want to.

>>13868330
>worst entry in the franchise
I don't see Zeta or 08th MS Team. Try again.

>>13875684
>explicitly having shown him shut down his unit's reactor so it wouldn't go off.
Yeah, right; as if nuclear fission reactor is something you can turn off with a flick of the switch like lightbulb. Even if the reaction stopped, the leaked radiation will get Kira Fukushima'd

>>13878515
>>13878541
me too, but it's with G-reco and not IBO

I like it
a lot :)

>>13871574
>Orga the MC
>when half his lines are "Aniki..." and the others are either executing some scheme that honestly shouldn't have worked flawlesssly (again) or sucking Kudelia's dick

>>13878515
Other shows had much better character development in the same timespan, though. 00 is an example; even Wing could fit.

>>138708640
Seriously neither of those were particularly flawless in those areas either, I think Mika is at least a little less of a autist than setsuna and they're both pretty shite "child soldier orphans" nonsense

>>13878609

Yeah I also enjoyed G-reco and the threads here were so bad I just stopped coming.

>>13878515
>but atleast it's not as shit as Zeta.
bait.

>>13868330
IBO is objectively the best gundam since 00
OP confirmed for salty that fumitan bit the dust

>>13878776
That doesn't make it good.

>>13878515

I don't even understand why people are complaining so much. Like, this is basically what I've always wanted in Gundam. It's above most of the AUs for me, just because of the protagonist.

This is firmly above-average, while most Gundam shows are average, below average, or REALLY bad. Like, what kind of show does /m/ want, anyway? I thought everyone wanted a serious plot, gritty realism, less beamspam, and a protagonist who wasn't obsessed with nonlethal KOs and peace.

>>13879166
Premise is perfect.
Execution is lacking.

That is all

>>13879166
>I thought everyone wanted
>a serious plot
Sure
>gritty realism
No
>less beamspam
Out and out lie
>and a protagonist who wasn't obsessed with nonlethal KOs and peace.
There's nothing wrong with this, and in fact /m/ wants to see it done well.

>>13879185

I personally consider this something of a golden age for the franchise, after a long drought. Thunderbolt and this show are more the types of Gundam I like - I don't want to complain about G-Reco, but I honestly didn't like the show or some of the themes. It's boring if people aren't invested in a war.

Like, I don't enjoy random physical comedy and so on. I generally prefer shows that are more serious in theme - You know, for a series that's supposed to be about warfare.

>>13879166
>I thought everyone wanted a serious plot,
A serious plot being a bunch of backwater chucklefucks leading an interstellar revolution?
>gritty realism,
I'll give you that some definitions of grit could apply.
However, the realism and the plot suffer from the fact Tekkadan can do No Wrong and are blatantly insulated from anything bad happening to them through blatant writer fiat. Mika having trouble? Chocoman shows up. Orga having problems with anything at all? "Aniki!" Kudelia facing tough odds? "Let me call Fatman McGreed, this'll end well somehow".
Hell, this was made blatant by that little fag getting murked - oh no, wait, he's fine. Nothing happened. Again.
>less beamspam,
Because we though it would make for more interesting fights. Yet another way we've been let down. The animation is utter shit, and the best explanation I can come up with for the rampant QUALITY is that no one involved with the show gives a single shit, certainly not the animators.
>and a protagonist who wasn't obsessed with nonlethal KOs and peace.
Who, Mika? He's not the main character, because he's neither main with Kudelia hogging the spotlight, nor an actual character, since then he'd have to be developed for real instead of a few moments every 5 episodes that last a second or three.

>>13879190

See, I agree with you.

The thing is, this is Gundam. This is not a show with stellar storytelling. I honestly cannot think of one where there weren't missteps in plot here and there. Even Unicorn's plot is completely fucked and unnecessary when you stop to think about it.

Mostly, I just turn my brain off to see how things happen. I'm honestly rooting for Ein and the antagonists a bit, because they're classy and they genuinely try so hard. (I'm also a bit against the general 'fuck the establishment' thing we get in stories, but most shows are about rebellion and not about enforcing the status quo.)

Basically, I can live with that, you know? Every Gundam series gives characters plot armor up the wazoo. Go on, name one where they don't have it - No fair talking about OVAs, though.

>>13879203
>btw I'm a gril

>>13879206

I don't follow.

>>13879203
> I honestly cannot think of one where there weren't missteps in plot here and there.
I don't think that's a valid excuse. Of course no show is perfect, but there are degrees of imperfection. Not that it's that bad, it's just (almost painfully) mediocre.
In the end, you're free to like what you like, it's just that the grounds on which you're trying to convince me/us to also like it are far from rock solid.

Also
>Even Unicorn's plot is completely fucked and unnecessary when you stop to think about it.
>Even
Might as well say "Especially".

JQOP?

>>13879225

I dunno. I suppose I've become a little jaded, content to settle for not-quite-mediocrity. I honestly cannot say that there's been any Gundam show in the past ten years (Okay, okay, except Unicorn before it got stupid) that got me really hyped.

It's just that nothing has been very promising, and IBO appeals enough to me to be uplifted above the pack. I think it actually came in front of a few really bad entries (AGE, G-Reco), which is why my perceptions might be a little more forgiving.

I'm not holding GBF and GBF-2 to the same standards, because they're more of amusing side-diversions.

>>13879233
> I think it actually came in front of a few really bad entries (AGE, G-Reco), which is why my perceptions might be a little more forgiving.
Conversely, I really enjoyed G-Reco, which is probably why GBFT and IBO seem so disappointing.

Still, you've wandered quite far from your original point, which was that IBO was everything /m/ should've wanted. I think we can honestly say that, as >>13879181 said, though if it had the possibility of being everything /m/ wanted, it's fallen through on several of its promises.
What you seem to be doing is excusing IBO's mediocrity because you enjoy it. You enjoying it is not the problem here; it's that IBO is mediocre at best, and expecting me/us to like it because you have set your standards lower is, in my eyes, unreasonable.

>>13878776
>IBO is objectively the best gundam since 00
Except it isn't, in fact I dare say it is worse than Age.

Its just really dull and doesn't take enough risks. It will be one of the more forgetable entries in the franchise after it ends that people go "oh yeah, that thing exists" when it's mentioned.

>>13883172
so it's Gundam X

>>13868330
I don't get this 'the latest entry in the franchise is always the worst' meme. G-reco had it's problems but it wasn't near the worst. Orphans is the same. At no point has it hit Seed's lows, and while it hasn't exactly been edge of the seat material at no point has it been as amazingly dull and uninspired as Age.

But hurr and durr, newest is always worst.

>>13873963
Australians also like tricking foreigners, It's a national passtime.
Drop Bears are a myth.

>>13888128
That's just what you want us to believe. I know how you tricksy fuckers think.

>>13875660
wing was terrible heero could have died on the 10th episode and I wouldn't have cared

>>13888128
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>13888529
Good for you. Too bad that isn't the common opinion.