XCOM thread

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Neo-XCOM is gay. Pirate the original and get OpenXcom. The original devs are gone so you don't have to feel bad.

Neo-XCOM is a gamey as hell TBS with gimmicky rules that lead to lots of frustrating situations where you get fucked by arbitrary rules. X-com wasn't supposed to work as a big squad based TBS game, and because of that they had to put in a bunch of bullshit like 'pod triggers' and '2 actions per turn' because if players were able to order their soldiers in a way that made sense anybody with half a brain could easily get through 90% of the situations the game could throw at you. There's still management stuff there, but it's streamlined to the point where it's like an accessory attached to the squad-combat while on OG X-com management was the entire game. Even combat was all about planning, efficiency and logistics. Actions in the geoscape could lead to potentially thousands of loadouts and tech levels when entering incredibly varied combat situations and the player had to face what was opposing them with whatever they had and no situation was impossible or a sure thing usually.

In the new game all skilled players know that it's all about a couple of killer strategies in the geoscape that always work (satellite spam, etc) while combat is a matter of gaming the systems rather than actually assessing each situation and responding accordingly. Because of that stupid 'pod trigger' system and the free move it gives to the aliens combat is all about creeping forward slowly and setting up as small engagements as possible so that you keep your situation manageable.

The big problem here is that to avoid letting another four aliens get the drop on you you need to avoid moving, but movement and flanking is most of how the new combat works, so instead of trying to simulate an actual fight, "how do I kill these aliens with my soldiers", the game gets the player thinking "how do I manage this group of aliens without moving one tile too far and triggering more?"

>>13857013
Bro you forgot to update the pasta for XCOM2

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>>13856779
>no mole

>>13857026
I don't have XCOM2. The incredibly positive reception of the first one has me thinking that it'll just be more of the same. People liked it and even thought it made them hardcore. That's probably what bugs me most. When somebody misses an alien the size of a gorilla with a shotgun at point blank range and complains you always get at least one faggot replying "that's XCOM, baby." Why does that have to be XCOM? XCOM didn't used to mean getting raped by gimmicky dicerolls and elite supertroopers murdering everything with their superpowers.

Why can't my favourite things stay dead?

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>>13857038

>>13857038

Well, change "Neo-XCOM" to read "XCOM2", change the "killer strategies" to "Blacksite/Facility rush" and add a few lines about how the devs forced players to throw risk-management out the window by placing a timer on most non-plot missions, forcing players to place their soldiers in disadvantageous positions to reach the objective point in time, often leading to squad wipes

I'm helping!

>>13856779

>Nickname isn't "Kill em all"

ya blew it

>>13857049
That doesn't sound fun at all.

>>13857068

The intent was to reduce the overwatch crawl/bounding overwatch tactic that EU players and Australians tended to rely on.

>>13857078
I can understand that idea, but I think that they'd have to redesign the entire game from the bottom up for it to really work. From the sounds of it not being able to patiently hop from ideal position to ideal position taking one small group of enemies turns the game towards regular and brutal forward charges which can't really be helped that much with clever thinking.

But I haven't played it though, so I might be wrong. Did putting swords into the game make aggression more viable?

>>13857129
Swords are trash.

>>13857135
That seems like a shame, I'm really fond of the stun batons in the original game. The big risk/payoff for getting your soldiers to stun aliens makes the early game fun every time.

>>13857129

Swords, even the plasma sword, aren't as good as a well-placed plasma shotgun blast to the face, unfortunately (nothing really is). They're just there so you can RULES OF NATURE.

What DID change the viability of aggression tactics is the fact that Rangers have a ton of abilities based around mobility and concealment (like one that lets you move after a kill) and so on, while Psi-Ops get the ability to give people a free move, and it's possible to just shower death from range with the support and demo classes. The sniper class can apply a ridiculous amount of debuffs or damage to whole groups of enemies with their handguns.

The sheer amount of weapons you can get that allow you to wipe an entire enemy group, even one that has a "miniboss" tier alien at its heart, in a single turn mean playing aggressively lategame is less of a problem than doing it early game.

2 has a potentially brutal early game and a very easy lategame.

>>13857054
>>Nickname isn't "Kill em all"
Except it is.

>>13856779
Fuck yeah XCOM! I just beat 2 yesterday, had a lot of fun with it. Can't wait for Terror from the Deep 2

>>13857054
T/N: "Minagoroshi" means "kill 'em all"

Question: Are MECs still in?

>>13857234
Yes
ADVENT has them
I haven't reached endgame, but apparently you get armor that's basically a MEC suit without the amputations

>>13857238
Nice.

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>>13857234

The forces of the ADVENT coalition have at their disposal the "ADVENT Mec", a fully robotic heavy trooper with the ability to devastate vast areas with their micromissile attack or burn down dissidents with fire from their gauss cannon.

The "Andromedon" is a heretofore unknown ayylien species that goes into battle wearing a massive powered suit that also doubles as their life support system. They hurl acid and fire a heavy plasma rifle, and can unleash a devastating melee attack that actually misses most of the time so really don't worry about it.

The Sectopod - the machine used by the Ethereals to crush Earth's conventional armour - has been adopted by the ADVENT coalition. Capable of raising itself to a height of two stories, this fully robotic unit bears the massive laser cannon it used in the last war, as well as a new mag weapon.

What I'm saying is no

You get grungy and later powered exosuits though

>>13856779
Why is Tomino black?

>>13857271

He's ethnically of Ainu descent.

>>13857148
>2 has a potentially brutal early game and a very easy lategame.

That's every X-Com game, isn't it. You start with the aliens having an upper hand but then you research better weapons and armor and things become more managable.

It's the truth from the very first game - especially the very first game. Don't let nostalgiafags blind you, Enemy Unknown is actually really fucking easy once you know what you're doing, even on Superhuman. And that's before you start abusing glitches or psionics.

>>13857288
Provided that you don't get hit with Cyberdisks the early game of UFO: Enemy Unknown is actually pretty easy. I've always found the later game harder since there's always so much more of everything to manage. Not so much the battlescape, more the geoscape, but then that can bleed into your battlescape by causing you to go into battles unprepared.

>>13857313
Cyberdiscs won't appear earlygame except for terror missions, and by the time you have a first your people should have laser rifles. Concentrated fire will take a cyberdisc down.

Not disagreeing with you here, quite the opposite. Enemy Unknown's geoscape was trivial and as long as you didn't outright ignore terror sites (but moving to one and lifting off immediately was acceptable, if costly), the only way to lose was getting a base raid. Otherwise you simply couldn't lose the game - there was always enough small and medium sized UFOs flying around to shoot down with your avalanche missiles for points, to break even at the end of the month.

>>13857334
Are you forgetting the council? It might be that OpenXcom made the diplomatic game harder but last time I played I was frantically swatting down alien bases and infiltration UFO's all the time in an effort to keep everything together.

>>13857247
D'aww. If only it was possible to make her less chunky.

I do love the robo-twintails.

>>13857371

With the SDK out, anything is possible (once people get past the nearly nonexistent documentation)

>>13857344
Bases are no big deal. Each alien base generates only 5 points a day. That's the equivalent of shooting down a Large Scout per month. Many people actually keep an alien base around so its supply ships can be milked with land raids, especially if it's something easy like Floaters.

Infiltrations are RNG heavy in that if a battleship appears, you already lost a country. All you have to do is shoot down enough UFOs that appear before it, so many that the battleship's appearance is delayed enough for the mission to time out. But these UFOs tend to be once again various levels of Scouts - Interceptors can easily take down every UFO in the game that's not a battleship so I don't see a problem.

And if you lose a country, it hurts if it was a major sponsor but the game continues. It's not like the new XCOM where you lose the game if enough countries withdraw funding. All you lose is money.

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So how come you haven't joined ADVENT to be a servant to the loving Elders, /m/?

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>giving a nickname to a fucking rookie

Fuck you OP, you're no true xenocider.

>>13857145

Don't listen to that faggot.

Rangers are easily the most powerful(non-psi) class in the game now if you build em right.

Not to mention the fact that melee can be used EVERY turn on top of doing a shitload of damage.

>>13857145
>>13857751

Don't forget how broken Reaper can be.

>Activate Reaper
>clear the big guy's 5 friends
>Shoot him in the face with a shotgun once you're done reaping

>>13857765

Not to mention the fact that AR's are actually viable on them now too.

>>13857049

Sounds like the first new XCOM game!

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Here's a big /m/ pool.
>a.pomf.cat/vnvqjo.bin

It contains (mostly MCs): (Great) Mazinger and Grendizer, Getter Robo, Tekkaman, Raideen, Combattler V, Ginguiser, Daitarn 3, Ideon, Baldios, Braiger, Dougram, Xabungle, Giant Gorg, VOTOMS TV and Mellowlink, Dragonar, GGG, and about 6-7 assholes each from MSG/Z/ZZ Gundam.

On the non-animated side of things, there's a few characters each from Star Trek, X-Files, Stargate, Farscape, Babylon 5, Blake's 7, and Captain Scarlet.

It's a little heavy on Rangers / Sharpshooters and light on PsiOps and maybe Grenadiers.
I'll be expanding it also, so if you have particular requests, put them here (along with a suitable class and personality type, and a nickname if applicable).

>>13857989
Do we just throw this in the Character Pool folder?

>>13858042
Put it in the CharacterPool\Importable folder. The Steam default is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\XCOM 2\XComGame\CharacterPool\Importable

Then go into the pool in your game and use the Import command.

>Make Celestial Being
>3 of them die within a few missions except for the girl I made into Tieria
>Is now my best hacker stealing sectopods and MECs left and right
Whoever said Specialists are the worst class must hate fun.

>>13857145
>>13857129
That guy is full of shit, the swords give you massive amounts of damage in the early game (8-10 compared to the 3 from your garbage assault rifles) and you now get less shots per mag so they have the potential to save your ass when you run out of ammo, plus the rangers can get an ability which makes it so they don't trigger overwatch/reaction fire which means if some assholes pin you down you can just banzai charge them

>>13857989
>about 6-7 assholes each from MSG/Z/ZZ Gundam.
>light on PsiOps

??????

>>13858366
>making every low-level Newtype like Char or Amuro a Psi
Judau, Kamille, Haman, Scirocco, Purus, Four, sure. Maybe even Glemy. But those + Ginguiser + Akira from Raideen isn't a whole lot compared to the amount of other characters.

Needs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKWPmvlzNwQ

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>E.X.O. Suit

I fucking love these things. I love the variety of armor types in this game. Rather than going "Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3".

>>13858718
I've seen complaints on the appearance of the armor types in this game, and I don't see the problem. All of the weapons and armor look so cool.

I enjoyed the game overall, but I kinda wish they did more with the stealth mechanic. Playing through some of base infiltrations, I got irritated when I saw the guards kept making beelines right for my guys even when stealthed, rather than following patrol patterns, so I'd be found out eventually no matter what. Judging from what people have told me, the point of concealment is to set up nice initial ambushes rather than stealthing your whole way through a stage, so I guess that makes sense. Even so, though, the battles end up feeling just like they did in the original XCOM rather than a guerilla struggle against all odds. I kind of wish there were stages where all the enemies were activated at once if you were discovered and made beelines for you immediately, but where the enemies patrolled predictably, so you'd have to spend some turns or use battle scanners to figure out where a patrol would pass by, then sneak in, hit the objective, and shoot your way out ASAP.

A couple of the base missions were like that for me, though. In the one where you have to rescue that Avatar prototype or whatever, the Sectopod spawned in the wrong place so my team could actually infiltrate the facility without being detected. The ground floor was full of enemies, so I sent my best Assault onto the unprotected roof, where she found a ladder leading to a room right next to the objective. I got my other guys into position, and when she picked up the package (setting all the guards off), my Heavy/Grenadier blew a hole in the wall right next to her, allowing her a quick escape. From what I heard that's really hard to do unless the enemies spawn in exactly the right places, so I wish there was more of it.

>>13858744

Wait, people complained about the armor looks? They're straight up /m/ as fuck. Hell, the EXO Suit in particular looks taken outta Edge of Tomorrow.

>>13858768
The ones I've seen complained about the most is the E.X.O. Suit and the Predator armor. Apparently some people don't like they way it looks with the exposed wiring and such.

>>13857238
>landmates confirmed

XCOM2 GOTY

>>13857247
>The "Andromedon" is a heretofore unknown ayylien species that goes into battle wearing a massive powered suit that also doubles as their life support system. They hurl acid and fire a heavy plasma rifle, and can unleash a devastating melee attack that actually misses most of the time so really don't worry about it.

you forgot to mention that it comes back to life after killing it once

>>13859066
It's actually a little worse than that. Once the pilot dies the mech suit starts moving on its own, and switches from ranged combat to melee attacks. It also leaves a trail of acid everywhere it steps in this form because the ayy's life-support fluids are caustic. Fortunately it loses all its armor and has a smaller life bar, so you don't have to shred it again.

>>13858744

I dislike the WAR armour because the limb braces extend way too far from the actual armor

>>13859066
>you forgot to mention that it comes back to life after killing it once

No, the powered armour comes back to life, the guy in the suit is dead as dicks

>>13857734
Pretty sure that's part of the character creator, not the actual game.

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No appropriate hair style, eh.

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Meanwhile there's a perfect hairstyle for Itano but no proper greying colour.

And in retrospect, Anno should've been twitchy.

>>13858791
christ, i swear people have the worst taste

exposed wires is some hot shit

plus it's a scrappy resistance anyway, why WOULDNT they have cobbled-together shit

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THE IS NO GOD BUT THE COMMANDER AND BRADFORD IS HIS PROPHET

AYYLAHU ACKBAR!

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Finally getting PSI's off the ground.

Soul Fire, Insanity, and Inspire is what I got thus far. It's been pretty useful. Also, Rangers are the fucking best.

>>13861713
Yeah, my ranger was the god damn hero of Earth. She had double-shot as her Colonel skill and a humungous critical rate along with an expanded clip on her shotgun, plus the best mobility enhancer PCS buff. By the end of the game she was running all over the map blowing the hell out of aliens by blasting them twice with her shotgun at close range doing like 30 damage per turn with two crits.

>>13858085

Specialists are just fine, and do a lot of cool shit from their design perspective. The problem they run into though is that as you create them throughout the game, far too many of them start with really shitty stats. 1:8 or thereabouts is the ratio of Specs that will actually be good by endgame.

>>13861713

Dominate is fucking broken.

>>13858085
>Whoever said Specialists are the worst class must hate fun

They have a guaranteed hit disabler nuke that does double damage to mecha and stuns/disorients even minibosses like Gatekeepers, guaranteed damage that does double damage to mecha and ignores armor, and can instantly remove mechanical units from play for several with a hack.

They're not as good as Psi-Ops, but they're incredibly good.

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>>13862280
Andromedons MVP all day erry day

>>13862292

They need to improve some of the stronger Ayys' will stats, a dominated Archon or Andromedon just trivializes too many things

Andromedons especially because they have massive health pools, 4 armour, AND can take cover like a normal soldier

>Toss Mimic beacon at objective to distract a pod
>Troopers and gatekeeper kill it
>Sectoid reanimates it back to life

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R8 my A-team, /v/.
One time, "The Truth" killed a bug on the other end of the map from her pistol and shouted "You can't handle ME!" I swear to god, this game.

>>13863574
>/v/

>>13863596
Well, we are discussing a game here, so.

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>>13856779
> play XCOM2
> avenger encountered by UFO
> dispatch every personnel to kill those AYY while disable shits
> make it through end of the day
> fight fight fight & continue fight. gather info, shits, etc etc etc...
> Avatar bar 2 more column to full before game ends
> can't make it through those 2 column when Gauss weapon start kicking in
> tfw i won't able to win this war

>>13864270
Don't worry about it, when the Avatar bar fills up they give you a 24 hour countdown to lower it. Just kill a base or something within a day and you'll be fine.

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>>13864281
the big problem was to get more engineers to clean some shits, internally.
one to many engineers was needed to clean some shits, by their own hands. shit takes pretty long time to clear.
after shit's clean up, they need to build new shits, again. it takes another long time.
bet those engineer throwing tantrum & delay tons of shits in the ship because they have to do all the things, BY THEMSELVES.
& DON'T forget about scientist as well.

reminds me of my childhood where i helped my crooked drunktard dad for car mechanics stuff. but in the end i used up all my energies & my youth, & gain almost nothing when i'm older.
back in the day i was a autism assburger that throwing tantrum, WITH TOOLS to take out all my build up frustration. guess the same for those xcom2 engineer as well.

Time to make a Refurbished ADVENT MEC class mod.

>>13865155

Someone's already making an singleplayer ADVENT unit mod, you're a bit late to the punch.

>tfw every time I name a character I fuck it up and they die on their first mission

Lost Geist and Krauser this way, feels bad man

>>13857182
>Can't wait for Terror from the Deep 2
I really, really hope that's what the >Even worse aliens are out there
are inspired by.

>>13866218

I'm hoping for Micronoids. TFTD's bad guys were just a literal spinoff of the Ufo Defense bad guys.

I know that the Fire Axis guys can change that (making the Ethereals the actual bad guys in both their new games instead of the Alien Brain is a thing) but still.

Is there a mod to play with Exalt uniforms yet?

Waistcoat tactical is my favorite kind of tacticool.

>>13866249

The EXALT uniforms aren't in the game yet, but there are mods that let you use civvie outfits for your troopers. While they're all FUTURETECH type outfits, the suit-like ones are the most EXALT-ish.

Then just slap on the EXALT bandana.

>>13866254
I need waistcoats in my life man.

>>13866270
You have to have a good figure to pull it off.

>>13866196
Link?

>>13866411

None yet, they were fooling around with it on /vg/.

Turns out Ranger ADVENT Mecs do a double overhead smash when you order them to slash with their nonexistent swords.

So near the end of the game, after you autopsy the avatar and The informant is apparently killed can you keep playing the game like normal? For how long? The game made it seem like starting the finale was pretty urgent.

>>13866908
The second spoiler happened for me about 5 supply drops ago, I need to farm elerium cores for the final mission so I guess as long as you manage the Doomsday ticker you're fine.

>>13863574
>walker
>the truth
[Spec Ops: The Line intensifies]

>>13857013
Old Xcom was clunky as hell, though. Reaction fire was unreliable, ammunition management was boring, being shot at from beyond your spotting distance was more frustrating than fun, and nobody could really take cover. At best you could crouch behind a chest high wall but the side of a building? forget about it.

>>13864330
where are you from

>>13866404
good thing all my troops are swole as hell

Wasn't there a fan remake of the original a few years ago? Did it turn out any good?

>>13860556
>Black
>Not Orange and Blue like Gaim

>>13867731
You mean Xenonauts? It was pretty fun. The graphics/art style is unappealing, but it does a good job of recapturing the feel of the original (TUs, etc.) and improving on it (you can now take cover, there's a fun air combat game, etc.)

>>13866760
That's fucking amazing.

>>13867302
>Reaction fire was unreliable
Well yea you've got a bunch of rejects pretending to be special forces.
>ammunition management was boring
You really just needed one spare magazine per person, if someone else ran out they could just grab a fresh rifle from a dead rookie.
>being shot at from beyond your spotting distance was more frustrating than fun
Yea, but you could do the same to the Aays.
>At best you could crouch behind a chest high wall
Or a rookie.

>>13867820
No human psionic potential though.

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god i fucking suck at these timed missions

im savescumming like a bitch now, goddamn i can't help it

>>13866908
>the informant

Bald Councilman, anon

>>13867898

Use your scouts anon

>>13867898
>>13867971
The one thing that kind of annoys me about a lot of timed missions is that for some of them, it counts as a fail if you evac, even if you accomplish the objective. Like, one time I was doing one of those "destroy relay" missions and managed to sneak past all the pods and blow away the relay. Now the pods were converging on my location, so I called in an evac and thought I'd get away scot free. But then it said I failed the mission, despite having destroyed the objective.

>>13867996
Soloman said that it's designed that way so players won't abuse evac victories

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>>13867996
Exact same thing happened to me. And bradford was like "Mission failed you didn't kill all the aliens." Fuck you bradford, you crazy old coot. Lives and health of my troops is more important than your stupid alien vendetta.

>>13866971
Do you feel like a hero yet?

How is this sequel then? I'm going through the first one right now and I'm liking it a lot

>>13868275
Good, but poorly optimized and bug-ridden in some areas. It's worth a purchase, but I'd hold off until either a price drop, sale, or patch.

>>13868282
Yeah, the bugs can get very annoying. Sometimes they're funny, like when a destroyed tree still showed up on the map and let both my guys and the enemies show up inside it, but others can be really annoying. During the last stage the lighting or something went completely crazy and the whole screen started flashing different colors. I had to reload a save to get it to work again, I'm just glad I don't have epilepsy or something, the way it was flashing would have given somebody a seizure.

>>13868275
It's basically XCOM again with different graphics. They didn't tweak the formula much. It's fun, but yeah, it's buggy.

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>>13867996
> one thing that kind of annoys me
you know what annoy the most? Viper.
yes, A. FUCKING. VIPER. you heard no wrong for that.
i'm fine with average Viper. but VIPER WITH BOOBS? FUCK. NO.
it's enough to deal with average AYYY all day long in EU & EW. but AYYY-tilian, WITH BOOBS in XCOM2? DOUBLE. FUCK. NO.
hiss or AYYY battle cry was average for normal AYYY, but AYYY-tilian with boobs, HISSING? it's like a bitch with extraordinary bitches that embed into every picometer of their body & soul. most probably those applied to the subatomic level or even further as well.
more like they're born as bitches with extraordinary bitchy bitch, in their every single cells & their souls.

whenever they spot you, it hiss.
either you hit or miss a shot on it, it hiss. AGAIN.
whenever it pull & bind you, it hiss. MORE.
it's like saying "come on here commander i'm the motherfucking bitches of the bitches in the universe of biatch galaxy, what you gonna do about me huh?" every single time.
IT'S. FUCKING. ANNOYING.

wish there's a mod where a MEC or equivalent unit could bitch slap, bitch fist, bitch rocket fist or whatever-awesome-kick-ass melee moves, right on those fucking biatch faces.
no. i'm NOT talking about blade attack or slash stuff. i want FUCKING BLUNT FORCES, HIT JUST RIGHT ON THEIR FUCKING FACES.
teach those fucking bitch of bitchy bitches right on their faces, so hard that send them back to their own place.

>>13868350
Damn son, you got girl problems.

>>13868352
nah. i have no girls problem to be exact. doesn't apply on douchebag girls.

just that XCOM2 gives me rage for some reason, especially Viper. can't figure the exact reason of rage on Viper but that's what i can tell so far.

oh btw, the mods mentioned better have critical hit on bitch slap, bitch fist, bitch rocket fist or whatever-awesome-kick-ass melee moves as well.

>>13867996
>But then it said I failed the mission

You apparently still get the strategic and tactical benefits of completing the mission, Bradford is just disappoint

>>13867824

I do like that the game actually has handles for if you do something that you're not supposed to do.

For example if you give XCOM troopers (or ADVENT ones, for that matter) the Andromedon's "big punch" ability, instead of freezing up or using a placeholder anim like firing (which is what happens if you give a trooper who doesn't have a sword the Ranger's slash ability), they smack the targeted motherfucker in the face with the stock of their gun.

Of course the associated properties of the Andromedon big punch mean that the surrounding environment is also completely trashed, but changing the environment damage level of an attack is literally a matter of either adding or removing a line in the ini, and chaning the value associated with it. Ranger swords already do pretty massive environmental damage with their swords (not on the level of plasma, which means it takes a couple swings for them to accidentally a whole car) but still.

The game is so easily tweakable under the hood it's just amazing.

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>>13856779
That should be Pierre Bernard.

>>13868350
>hating on the snek
I bet you are one of those pedophiles who likes Papi

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>>13869839
>not liking all monmusus

>>13869197
I made a new ability based off the Big Damn Punch the other night. Had to combine it with parts of the ranger slash to make work more like the slash. Does 3 damage, 100% accuracy, and you can target allies.

I'm having fun. Now if only I could figure out how to make a suicide explosion ability.

>>13869923

Look at the Void Rift for examples. I'm sure there's a way to make it so that it's centered on the character.

>>13870006
> Void Rift
No. Fuse.

>>13870013
I tried Fuse, Throw Grenade, Launch Grenade, Andromedon Acid Bomb, and Gatekeeper death explosion so far. Nothing it working, I might be missing something.

>>13870018

It would be cool if you could associate that with Guerilla Training School tech unlock. Probably called something corny.

>From Hell's Heart (or Last Breath)
>If soldier is killed by an ayy melee ability (Snek Bind, Stun Lancer stab, Andromedon Punch, Gatekeeper Tentacle Rape, Chrysallid double face poke, Archon energy pike stab, Muton bayonet charge, Berserker swipe, Faceless slash) they detonate for 4 damage + damage of any grenades they have on their person

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>>13869839
so you're the one that keep shouting PORN WHEN, while people talk about Viper huh?
disgusting. ABSOLUTE DISGUSTING.

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>>13870048
Distinctive. Human. Features.

>>13870046
> they detonate for 4 damage + damage of any grenades they have on their person
[muffled nasheed heard in the background]

>>13870046
I'll try my best man. I have no idea what I'm doing.

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>>13870061
but still, it was so wrong, in so many levels.

>>13870063
AYYYYYLAHU ACKBAR!

>>13870046
>>13870063
>>13870121

I got something working. Unfortunately the explosion isn't really visible and it takes about as long to activate as normal Fuse does.

>>13869839

He must be Japanese then, becuase that's the only goddamn girl we've been getting doujins of and it's getting irritating.

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>>13869839
>>13869888
>>13870506
> all this fugly monsterfag talking about monmunsu shit, just googled out what they talk about some nonsense shit
gosh, wish i live under a rock, playing XCOM2 & know nothing about that piece of shit exist in this world.


>>13870046
>>13870498
but if that happens, how would you able to retrieve those precious customized weapon from the fallen comrades?
don't tell me they have to carry their dismembered corpse after they went AYYYYLAHU ACKBAR?

>>13870672
> piece of shit
Now now, it's actually very fun.

>>13870046

>From Hell's Heart

>not GLORIOUS JIHAD

Step it up, son.

>>13870680
for you.

btw is there any direct approach instead of mods to fill additional slot for weapon upgrades?
it's pain to have only 2 slot upgrades for plasma weapon..

>>13871701
I think some continent bonus gives you an extra slot.

>>13871716
tried all continent contacted, still nothing happens. apparently they say only 2 upgrade slot for plasma weaponry or something.

what's the white dot stuff on the side of continent bar? a warning bar?

>>13871743
Something definitely can give you one extra slot, I had it on my second playthrough. If it's not a continent bonus then it's something else, but it's there.
> the white dot stuff
The what?

>>13868350
... I more of hate them since they have that stupid tongue grab, the bind attack, and spit acid.

>>13871743
no the white dot indicate how many radio tower you have to build in that continent to unlock their benefits.

>>13871751
so you mean you'll get 3 weapon slot instead of 2 after win the first playthrough?

>>13871766
wait, how should i build radio tower? i have all continents in hand.

>>13871777
No, I don't think it's related to new game. Just some bonus or research or something.

>>13871777
>wait, how should i build radio tower? i have all continents in hand.

see the radio tower icon on the map, click it

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>>13871789
>>13871869
all right, will look into it.

btw it's awesome to have superior repeater equipped. it's a waste potential to not have 3 slot weapon upgrades & have few low tier upgrades laying around
> full health sectopod incoming, using it's AOE cannon
> heavy, GTFO of that cannon blast area you fool
> suddenly, overwatch triggered
> not one triggered, but 2
> OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK YOU'RE SO DEAD HEAVY
> take few damages & lives, guess luck & WAR armor keep her survived from that nightmare.
> heavy gone full panicked, run away from intended coordinate to take some cover
> YOU MUSTN'T RUN AWAY, SHOOT SOMETHING AT LEAST YOU FOOL
> heavy decided to take shot on sectopod out of full panicked situation
> oh boy, it sure will miss. just like what people said always: IT'S XCOM BABY!
> .. erm wait, either miss or not i should have holo target on any target she shoo...
> suddenly, sectopod EXECUTED from full health to zero
i never see that coming so soon.

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>>13871914
>EXECUTED
Every single time.

>>13857038
>XCOM didn't used to mean getting raped by gimmicky dicerolls and elite supertroopers murdering everything with their superpowers
Did...did you ever even play the original XCOM?! Because that was EXACTLY what it was like! In my first game I never lost a soldier for months towards the end because my entire army just hovered around in their flying suits (which could reliably deflect at least one plasma shot a mission) mindcontrolled every enemy into dropping its gun and then shot them while they were helpless.

>>13868319
>bugs
It should really have occurred to them that Bladestorm would activate when vipers bind rangers, and to include an animation for it, because my guy just sat there frozen for a few seconds until the snake died suddenly, then he telelported around, still on his knees.

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>>13872870
I had a weird bug with Bladestorm

and I wish the game did not just shit all over my Rangers

>>13872896
That picture reminds me, one thing I dislike about the game is the new health meters. Being arranged in rows of five made it easy to eyeball it and see how much health a unit had, as opposed to the single long bars. Good luck telling how much health a late game enemy has without sitting there counting it and trying not to loose count.

>>13856779
>never even finished the first reboot one
Ok, time to do it. I've got the expansion and everything, what should I prioritize when it comes to investigation and stuff?

>>13872932
rush satellites and unlock the ability to do the alien base mission (alien bilogy > arc thrower > capture an alien > interrogate it > capture outsider > research shard) ASAP.

Clearing the base gives you a -2 WORLDWIDE panic reduction. It's good to have it available just in case a nation is about to drop out

>>13872940
Roger that. I'm deploying now. Thanks!

>>13872920
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=617015579&searchtext=

>>13872948
Make sure to keep all the nations in mind for terror missions as well. Any missions you ignore also panic the rest of the continent some, you could lose someone through that.

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>come in to ask for pro-tips for enemy unknown since i just now decided to play it (it was £2 for PS3 so i thought why the fuck not)
>someone already beat me to it

Should I be playing EW on Classic? Normal seems pretty easy so far.

>>13873710
is this your first time paying EW?

>>13873710
Classic Ironman seems to be the way the game is meant to be played. Don't be afraid to coast through Normal mode until the game at least starts throwing Mutons at you, it can be pretty devious on most any difficulty.

>>13873762
I played it for a bit like a couple of years ago, but I didn't have much time to play so I ended up dropping it. I guess I know what I'm doing more or less.

>>13873769
>changing the difficulty mid game
No, thanks, I'll restart the whole thing.

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I can't get it guys. Grenades and explosions are a fucking mess to deal with.

>>13873781
Honestly I can't even remember if the game lets you do that or not.

>>13873181
ya shagged the pooch

should have spent a few quid more to get enemy within

>>13873796

It's still neat that you managed to get that far anon

>>13873796
Isnt the code for that kinda stuff already present with the "fuse" ability?

>>13873812
Only had a tenner on me at the time and for some reason EW was £12.

>>13873796
AYYYYLAHU ACKBAR STRONK!
REMOVE AYYYYYY!
btw it's fun to fiddle environment explosives, especially those AYY was around them.

apparently i have all continent installed radio tower, but still weapon slot upgrades only have 2 instead of 3.
so, what went wrong?

>>13874060
The continent bonus that adds a third slot only appears some of the time. There's a big pool of continent bonuses and it randomly selects one for each area at the start of the game. It's kind of unfortunate, since that's the only continent bonus that really changes the game.

>>13874064

Breh the two Proving Grounds related ones can save you anywhere between two and three months of nonsense if you get them midgame

>>13872932
With Enemy Within you'll want to jump on Meld whenever possible. MECs are phenomenal.

MECs keep the Aim stat of the soldier they were made from and get a feature based on that soldier's class. This means maxed-out Snipers make the best MECs. Get the piston punch, it comes with extra movement speed.

Gene mods are compatible with psionics, MECs are not. You will need a psionic character to finish the game, but unfortunately who's psionic is a diceroll that you can't find out the result of until you actually build the testing chamber.

Annette Durand is automatically psionic, so pump her up with every gene mod you've got. Shaojie Zhang is not guaranteed but has higher base Will than normal, meaning he's much more likely than most to also be psionic.

Get someone to Major and purchase Iron Will in the OTS as soon as possible. It bumps the Will gain soldiers get at each level from 2-6 to 4-12, meaning it won't do much good for your existing high-rank soldiers but it'll cause new rookies to become nearly invincible to a lot of the worse psionic attacks.

>>13874088
>Annette Durand is automatically psionic

She's also automatically french as hell

>>13874064
gosh, so i have to start all over again for that 3 slot weapon upgrades continent bonuses?

found out something about it, seems like i get 6 out of 13 continent bonus provided, randomly.
either way, it seems like the only option was get fucked or get lucky with random continent bonuses.

>>13874100
Don't worry about it too much. Weapon upgrades are nice, but you don't usually need three of them per soldier.

>>13874088
If you have the DLC with Durand, you're also guaranteed to get three more psionics later on.

>>13874107
that IF only you get the right combination for both soldiers ability & weapons, all the time.

& no one could resist superior repeater equipped on the extra third weapon slot, when all the combination was correct.
unexpected maximum shocked & satisfaction guaranteed.

>>13873906
That's what I used, but the explosion was never visible and regardless of what animation I gave it, it still took as long to go off as it does with normal Fuse. Except this time you don't see the soldier playing with purple magic.

So what you get is. Soldier points. Soldier gets back into position. 3 seconds of nothing. Fire spawns in. 2 more seconds. Suddenly the area takes damage from a gust of wind.

>>13874067
Yeah, getting new exo suits instantly is damn handy.

>>13874088
>maxed-out Snipers make the best MECs
Why would you waste a maxed out sniper on a MEC? Maxed out snipers are the deadliest thing in the game, given their two final abilities.

>>13874088
A Heavy can be handy MEC'd thanks to Body Shield. If you stack defensive abilities on them, they can take five hits to kill even on Impossible.

For Psionics, it runs off the soldier's will when they're shoved in the box. You want to get the soldier up a few ranks with Iron Will unlocked, and shove your A-Team Supports and Assaults in first so that you can get someone useful out of it early with the bonus you get for finding a Psionic soldier when you don't have any yet.
Also also, save the soldiers you get from Progeny for last, they're guaranteed to be Psionic so they fuck with your chances to get someone useful those mind powers.

is there any way to improve the frame rate in the game? the menu of Avenger layout keep stuttering inconsistently but when squad game is on, it works fine, with some bugs.
i keep playing with those issue in hand, & somehow it was annoying at some point.

tried many ways to fix it but nothing happen. any clue to fix this for real or just wait for official patch?
i don't think my rig issue caused it.

>>13875549
look for a guide on .ini file tweaks you can do

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Guys, I think I got it. How should this ability be obtained? It's tied to a custom grenade at the moment, maybe a vest?

>>13878058

VIGILO CONFIDO VIGILO CONFIDO VIGILO CONFIDO

Also, yes.

>>13878165
>>13878058
>testing this out with a lategame squad
>activate it
>psi soldier takes no damage because of fortress

My god. I forgot that was a thing.

>>13878199

>the most devoted of the Commander's servants can self-detonate and survive

>>13878199
Hoo boy

>>13878437
>>13878231
>>13878165
>>13878058
It's up. Enjoy killing your squad. Finished just in time for my internet to go to shit.

>>13878058
ALL HAIL THE GREAT COMMANDY ONE

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>>13876077
tried, seems not working as intended so far.

>>13878058
> commander 'meme'
AYYYYYYYYLAHUUUU ACKBARRRRRRRR!

>>13857038
>People liked it and even thought it made them hardcore.

There's always this guy. People can't just dislike things on /m/ without coming up with bizarre allegations about the people who do like things.

>>13857989
You have the /m/ directors? A couple Knights of Sidonia customs wouldn't hurt either.

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>>13857078
AyyYY

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>fixing bind issue on Beatdown
>notice Commanders Will is still active in bind

I'm keeping it.

>>13884286

It's the only way

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>yfw Vipers

anyway, lag issue fixed for XCOM2 & better than before.
apparently i have not upgrade nvidia to the latest version due to EW 'jagged' screen during gameplay, & somehow newer graphic card version tend to BSOD my rig with "bla bla bla power failure stuff" notification. which till now i don't have actual solution for it.
guess it's either go AYYYYYY or nothing.

>>13884286
> AYYYYYLAHU ACKBAR intensifies
noice.
although no mods for bitchslap that bitchy bitch viper, but close enough.

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More gemlins.

>>13888852
Funnel gremlin mod when?

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> sniper 94% chance hit on Archon
> missed
> second turn 94% chance hit on Archon
> missed, again
fuck. FUCK.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>13890514
> Funnel gremlin
WE NEWTYPE NOW!

seriously, what other /m/ mod we could cramp into XCOM2 btw?

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>>13890735
Bigger and more badass heavy armor. the T3 armor look like shit
also symphogears i guess

>>13867849
>Well yea you've got a bunch of rejects pretending to be special forces.
Except that's not the problem. The problem is that you've got no idea if a character is going to get a reaction shot or not. In new Xcom, it's spelled out that movement triggers reaction shots unless abilities say otherwise.

>You really just needed one spare magazine per person, if someone else ran out they could just grab a fresh rifle from a dead rookie
So you've got to backtrack and find the corpse of one of your dudes, maybe half way across the map, grab his ammo, and then run back. Sure, that's fun.

>Yea, but you could do the same to the Aays.
Vastly outweighed by the frustration of having to chase after plasma shots.

>Or a rookie.
And once again, we're coming from the Red Army school of tactics. Utterly boring meatgrinders where you just rush into shooting range and start pulling triggers.


Really, what's the draw here? Why do I want to play old Xcom?

>>13891960
old games are all better than new games because new games are made for stupid baby children while old games were made for hardcore badass adults like me

>>13891966
So you're wearing nostalgia goggles.

>>13891984
welcome to the internet, retard

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>tfw you like old and new Xcom, plus all those spiritual succesors

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>>13892053
I'll be honest, UFO: Aftershock has a special place for me due to its comparatively twisty plot beyond "ALIENS ARE INVADING", and I like Afterlight for its art style.

>make a psi amp primary weapon
>attach a gremlin to it
>still have an open secondary weapon slot

What can I do with this? Other than equip a second gremlin.

>>13892744
Sword or Grenade launcher

>>13892053
>>13892700
Personal opinion about X-Com knockoff/spiritual successors time:

>Ufo: Aftermath
Good game. Solid difficulty, very atmospheric. A bit repetive gameplay but accetpably so.

>Ufo: Aftershock
Fun to break with ridiculous builds (twin machineguns or blademasters moving faster than the wind) but too buggy and repetetive. Cool ideas, bad execution.

>Ufo: Afterlight
Weird atmosphere and artstyle, but not in a bad way. Not really scary or creepy though. Fun gameplay, probably the best geoscape from all AfterX titles.

>UFO: Alien Invasion
Rather minimalistic but what you expect, it's a free thing and still in development. I didn't play it in years, should see what was changed since the last time I did...

>Xenonauts
Good and well polished game, but the tactical representation feels a bit too sterile and the game overall tries to be the original X-Com in the 70s rather than its own thing.

>Ufo: Extraterrestrials
Wow, what a load of crap. This is bad. It's like I'm playing a late 90s/early 00s shovelware.
Note, I played it unmodded. Supposedly with mods it becomes much better, but I've yet to try it.

>>13892852
>A bit repetive gameplay but accetpably so.

Wow, don't mind this sentence. I'm tired and my spelling is shit.

>>13892852

>Ufo: Extraterrestrials

That game was the first thing I refunded when steam refund became available. What a load of shit.

>>13892852
Extraterrestrials Gold is just Xenonauts if Xenonauts was made by Slavs.

It even has all the same design flaws, though it edges out Xenonauts slightly because of Xenonauts' soulless (as opposed to Extraterrestrials' downright terrible) art.

>>13890766
the only shits about T3 armor was 2 armor plates. it's too easily shredded into nothing.

i would tolerate for 3 to 5 armor plate. 2 armor plate just not enough.

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> ranger 100% shot at flank high crit
> miss
> miss, again
> enemy near by ranger
> bladestorm activated
> miss
> miss, again

did anyone ever annoyed by ranger that missed golden opportunity all the time, where the level greatly surpass the "IT'S XCOM BABY!" level?

i seriously need some mod on 100% attack on blade, what's so hard to hit a target in melee range?
i would gladly accept grazed damage & so on, but fuck on me when the action was always "missed!".

>>13894634
Well I mean isn't there a mod that does exactly that on the workshop? 100% sword accuracy?

>>13891984
No, he's quite obviously being facetious in that last post. Learn to read sarcasm.

>>13894634
Yeah, my ranger was constantly either missing blade attacks (especially bladestorm) or failing to finish targets off.

In the late game I realised that a point blank shotgun blast was more accurate (guaranteed hit instead of 70-80%ish and more powerful than the sword, and I'm beginning to think that blades are a trap. I'm certain reaper is, what a let down of a skill.

>>13898215
The final tier of ranger skills also lets you fire two shotgun blasts back to back. Which will kill or servery injure pretty much anything.

>>13898046
did that & the file is in hand, somehow it was confusing as file i use was not in steam.

>>13898221
that if point blank & 100% accuracy. still sometimes 100% accuracy have missed shot, for some unknown reason.

anyway did anyone ever experienced living enemy's grenade get fused by Psi soldier was able to "missed!" inside the blast radius, entirely? that was blasphemy.
ABSOLUTE BLASPHEMY!

so why is XCOM 2 not being released on consoles?

>>13898256
I think the game becomes harder to mod if you put it on consoles, so to make things easier for modder (a decision largely inspired by the success of the Long War addition) they decided to make it PC only.

>>13898256
Considering all the people bitching about it not running or running like shit, you really think going to consoles would be a good idea?

>>13898264
kinda screws over people with crappy computers though

>>13898256

Because XCOM EU/W sold like seven copies on console

Total

>>13898298
Shame they didn't take the hint, and gear the sequels more to computers, with more troops and get rid of the pods.

>>13898457

The limited squad size and pod mechanic have nothing to do with platform choice and are a conscious decision by Jake.

I can't remember why he did it though

>>13891966
Tfw like older games because they're more autistic and comlicated
i fucking love morrowind

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Wish I could figure out how to set their class from the beginning

>>13898505
Not sure about pods, but the limited squad size is there because - contrary to what you may remember, the old X-Com games are really damn easy when you outnumber the enemy. At least without cheap fake difficulty tricks of the kind TftD liked to pull off.

Aftermath series had your squad limited to 6-7 people too and I think that's the perfect size. 4 is too few - if you lose one soldier and another panics as a result, suddenly that's half your manforce down, and in a time critical game. That's too punishing. But more than 8 would just be busywork.

>>13900821
>>13901156
Gremlin fighters?

>>13901203
>But more than 8 would just be busywork.

but fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvx-ixOpgHM

>>13901231
Yeah. Unfortunately anytime they perform a normal soldier action (like shooting) they drop to the floor, clip halfway into the ground, do their business, then go back to the air

>>13900907
I like Daggerfall. Speccing a burglar was awesome

>>13901729
i have daggerfall installed too, i keep dying in the beggining dungeon why are older rpg's so fucking good?

>>13901680
could you replace the animation specifically for gremlins? or do all the soldiers share the same animations for that kind of stuff?

>>13901843
The animations (for firing) are tied to the weapon models. I don't currently have the tools or the knowledge to deal with that at the moment.

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>gremlins equipped with gremlins
>gremlin aid protocoling another gremlin

>>13901880
huh. i only have experience modding bethesda games really. im this guy >>13900907 were you thinking of publishing anything you made on the nexus?

>>13902126
I'm the guy that made Beatdown and Commanders Vest. I'm currently just fucking around with stuff at the moment.

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>>13902086
> equip gremlin with gremlin

>>13902086
>Gremlim with a gun will never be a class

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>>13902886
YOU SAY THAT

So I can get it to show up in your barracks as a specific class. It still has wonky shooting animations but whatever.

Ideas for abilities go. Keep in mind that I am an idiot.

I feel like an idiot for not know that PSI unit can learn both side of their skill hence spending months not training him
And Salvo is a fun skill

>>13906147
Salvo + bigger boom + explosion radius up = NUKE EVERYTHING

>>13906190
I love spamming explosion when I see armour unit or Chryssalid

but best thing is to hack units and let is rampage on the enemy side

But there was a a lack of interesting story based mission in XCOM2

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I still think that modding the original XCOM is more fun than the new ones. New ones look nice but I think that the focus on pitched firefights combined with the pod system kills the fun.

The original game's Search & Destroy approach to combat is much more fun.

>>13907339

The first reboot game has an emphasis on pitched firefights.

The second reboot game has the same search and destroy ethos. It places heavy emphasis on destroying revealed pods as soon as you encounter them because getting into a firefight in 2 is a death sentence.

>>13907339
BAHTEL BROTHAHS!

bump for possible creative mods.

talking about mods, did anyone try to add reload function for implacable skill for ranger?

shits sucks when you're out of ammo & need to wait for the next turn to reload.