Is Robocop /m/? I liked 2

Is it so hard for people to say "let's discuss X"?

I bounce between like and hate with Robocop. Not sure how to feel.

>>13856755
No. He is a cop.
Not Ghana Bootleg poster discussion forum pics board.

>>13856755
2 is fine. It tried to follow the spirit of the original. The plot was a bit too familiar but other than that it's good. There were no other movies beyond 2.

>>13856759
/m/ is always empty, so they do this to reel in more people.

American Jesus is indeed /m/.

>>13856759
>I bounce between like and hate with Robocop
Going to have to explain yourself there, mate.

dun dun dun dun duuun dun dun dun duuuun

I like 2, imo it was the only good movie Kershner did besides Empire Strikes Back.

>>13856755
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otX6zo2q4z8

>>13856998
How bad is 3 supposed to be? I've only seen the first two and the reboot but I've heard that 3's status as a piece of shit is legendary. I like the jetpack he gets and am gonna get the NECA figure and you can't stop me!

>>13856755
If some fantasy wolf-armored magic warrior can be /m/ then why not Robocop?

>>13860630

>>13860606

>Tfw there will never be a good Robocop videogame

>>13860693
There is the Data East arcade game (plus the Robocop Vs. The Terminator games, although those are technically crossover comic tie-ins).

>>13860638
Not to mention it was inspired by and was an inspiration for Metal Heroes, to boot.

>>13857158
>American Jesus
Did you know that Paul Verhoeven's a biblical scholar and he wrote a book on the life of Jesus?

The first Robocop is great. When I saw it as a kid, I only remembered the gory violence, but as an adult I see the story of a man losing his humanity and his struggle to regain it. Also, I had seen GaoGaiGar somewhere between those two periods, so rewatching Robocop seeing the parallels between Murphy and Gai was fun.

I was disappointed with Robocop 2 when they backtracked on Murphy's development. Then the rest of the movie was an after school special.

>>13856755
Why wouldn't it be?

Even if Murphy himself didn't count, ED-209 sure as hell does.

>>13856755
I liked the original trilogy, the four cable movies, and the remake.

>>13857175

I forgot about the 2014 movie.

It commits the worst sin a film can make: It's boring. It's really bland, and feels cheap. Nothing about it is in any way memorable. It lacks a villain or much drama for most of it. Everything looks like Toronto which takes me out of the film.

>Hey, I know that corner
>Hey, that's University of Toronto! I walk by there all the time.

>>13860630

3 has a faster pace than 2, so it's actually more watchable. 2 starts out strong, then dithers in the middle before ending strong. 3 just plows ahead.

The film is really stupid, pale immitation of the first film. Despite costing much more it looks cheap as HELL. It is PG-13 and feels like a kid's film. The acting is all around terrible.

The biggest problem is that it's way too goofy. RoboCop driving a Pink pimpmobile kind of thing. Large black man in a child's sailor suit with a giant lollypop.

I watched the 80's cartoon show. It's pretty stupid and fun.

Contains a Geraldo Rivera parody character. I think every 80's cartoon had to take a shot at him at some point.

The quality of the rips are pretty bad. .avi low bit rate.

Someone should look into improving that. The DVD transfers aren't that great, so I don't know how much better we can make it.

>>13860840
>I was disappointed with Robocop 2 when they backtracked on Murphy's development.

Every single sequel does that. They probably have no clue where to go with the story, so they just make him RoboCop again, rather than Murphy.

It's probably a story that shouldn't ever get a sequel because of this. I ignore all of them as non-canon.

>>13860840
If it ever gets subbed, you could possibly look into Jiban. It's essentially a Japanese version of Robocop. In the meantime, the closest thing to that is Winspector, with its episodes about the robot sidekicks dealing with having human emotions.

I actually liked 3. It was lighter and even a bit more campy of a Robocop movie, but still enjoyable.

I never did get what happened to The Old Man and why they had to switch stations though.

2014 was...watchable. Hell I even enjoyed some parts of it like that douchebag soldier Murphy trains/fights against and Michael Keaton's acting.

Now that mid 90s Canadian Robocop show, that shit was so campy and bad it was hilarious and good.

I love the Our Robocop movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfF14LI2QDA

>>13861450
After the Capone vault he deserved every shot taken

>>13856755
I liked 3 Unironically.

>>13856755
>robot cop
>ED-209 is a giant hulking robot

Nope, definitely not /m/.

>>13860840
>When I saw it as a kid
Was under 10, had fucked up dreams that night about people melting into goo. It was a blast to watch years later.

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>>13861437
There was this scene. Spooky.

>>13861549

There's also a Geraldo in the Transformers show. Watching these shows you get the sense that EVERYONE hated the guy.

>>13863703
That scene was nothing if not memorable.

>>13863759
>people endlessly shitpost about the hand before the movie is even out
>that scene happens
I mean it was still bad, yeah, but it wasn't totally thoughtless.
I understand just how Robocop was trying to modernize the tale, but they didn't really follow through enough.
It had some good ideas and I think it was possible to make a good Robocop remake out of them but they just gave up and made it a generic action flick with dad feels.

>>13861437
H-hey Torontobro

>>13861500
>90s Canadian Robocop show

That one Robocop had enormous shoulders and air bags? Shit was awesome.

>>13863802
>people endlessly shitpost about the hand before the movie is even out

I wouldn't call it shitposting when there wasn't much news about the movie out yet. Getting mad about the hand was incredibly justified for awhile.

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>>13863721
Actually that was the same character. Hector Ramirez, the notGeraldo character, appeared in all Sunbow shows in the 80's, technically making all of them in the same universe. See: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hector_Ramirez

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>>13864037
Count Duckula got the real deal

https://youtu.be/ganImroZQx0?t=1m22s

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>>13856755
Fuck off, Murphy.

>>13861445
I'm sorry, but all that does is make me want to watch it more.

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>>13865207
Gaban? Jesus, nigga... He's not even a cyborg...

8 man --> The Six Million Dollar Man --> Cyborg 009 --> Robocop --> Jiban --> Robocop 2 --> Rescue Heroes --> Robocop 3.

The fact is: the cyborg cop concept is japanese. Robocop created the genre in cinema for adults, but Jiban make it pretty edgy for a tv kid show, both in style, mobility and firepower.

By the way, Verhoven's Robocop cloned the jetpack and smart gun, and Padilha's Robocop cloned the red visor and motobike... It's a cycle, but - in general - Jiban is still an upgraded version of the old Murphy.

>>13865931
He's in the picture because his design inspired Robocop's

>>13864003
I think he means THE Series. Canadian TV show with Murphy driving a Mustang, fighting cartoony villains of the week, and everything watered down for kids to watch.

>>13863657
I hear people who were underage when they first saw the movie say this all the time, and I still don't get it. That's the least goriest scene in the film, happening to a guy who totally deserves it. What makes that more traumatic than Kenny or Murphy's deaths?

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This shop was made here in 2009.

>>13865931
>The fact is: the cyborg cop concept is japanese
Captain Video and His Video Rangers (1949)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AikYuLNxmXU

>>13865207

Damn, those Japanese designs look like straight garbage next to Murphy. Practically amateur hour cosplay.

>>13868364
>TV Budget vs. Movie Budget

>>13868558
And even then, Robocop's design isn't nearly as good.

>>13868364
The ones to the left were from the 70s and exactly 1980. They were also from tv shows rather than movies.

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>>13868558
>>13868568

FYI, pic related is from the TV show.

>>13868581
He looks like a giant plastic action figure but with less articulation

>>13868587

And yet it still looks better than some guy with a glue gun getting ready for comic con.

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>>13868581

Is it because they didn't use the Gundam-brand Gundam marker for the outline?

>>13865207
To be honest, I really dislike Robocop's exposed mouth. I understand that it's there to make it visible that there is still a man in there, but it just kinda ruins the design to me. Really wish he had a little removable mask to go over that sometimes, or something.
Not crazy about the slit visor either, it just reminds me of Cyclops.

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>>13868618
I kinda like the semi-exposed face. Reminds me of other comic book inspired designs like Batman's cowl and MMPR helmets.

>>13868618
What an odd opinion. Covering the mouth in my opinion would just make it more bland. Now its both a distinction that its a halfman-half robot, elsewise it would just be a robot. Not to mention the warm hue of the skin is a great compliment to the overall cool-coloured pallete of the rest of the body. Its really well designed.

>>13868581
They probably just re-used the movie suit.

>>13869151
They had LOTS of suits. Like at least half a dozen for each movie. The majority of them are made from the original molds though, so yeah, they mostly all look the same.

>>13868618
>>13868670


He should have a little Optimus Prime mouth guard that closes automatically when shit gets real. You know, like Viewtiful Joe. That way we can have lips for important dramatic moments, but we don't have the whole "why don't they aim for his chin?" problem.

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>is Robo Cop /m/

How the hell isn't it?

>>13857175
Huh, the 2014 suit actually makes for a pretty solid Iron Man design, just needs better color separation and some face contours.

>>13864034

Very interesting stuff, thank you.
I kinda see why CGI is so appealing these days, doing that required a shitton of effort and time.

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>>13869234
Doesn't help that it kinda looks like plastic

>>13869288
Why does he need an emergency air supply? Does he even have lungs anymore?

>>13869316

If he's got biological parts they need to respirate somehow. Maybe they've mastered artificial blood oxygenation.

>>13869316
It's for fleshbags he's rescuing.

>>13860693
At least the music from robocop 3 is cool

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>>13868618
THIS. During the movie, it's more "human" (and better for narrative) see his mouth. However, during action, it's complete dumb. One shot in the middle of his teeth and... bye. Maybe a protection used in action scenes sounds better (and more badass, if well done, like Optimus Prime's mouth opened/closed).

>>13868364
>those Japanese designs look like straight garbage next to Murphy.
Comparing tv suits from 1979 and 1982 with a cinema suit from 1987. LOL...
1987 Murphy's design > 1989's Naoto's design? You have shit taste, anon... Just accept it.

>>13868581
Stop being a fag.

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>>13869485

I love ED-209. Definitely one of my favorite movie robots.

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>>13869474
>However, during action, it's complete dumb. One shot in the middle of his teeth and... bye.

Not that dumb. Soldiers and SWAT teams don't normally wear any kind of full-face protection, either. Even in the film's world the cops only wore a vest and helmet when on duty.

>>13869474
>1989's Naoto's design

What now?

>>13869581
http://metalheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Naoto_Tamura

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>>13869558
Jesus, man... We all know it, but we are talking about cyborgs taking tons of machinegun bullets in the chest (and probably face) and staying alive. Ordinary human cops will die in any situation.

The "protected mouth" is practical and cool for a cyborg. It's useless for a human, lol.

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>>13869474
Shooting him in the mouth would be the same as shooting him anywhere else. You'd just be shooting a metal skull with fleshy bits stapled over-top.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOoSe2K5DU

>>13869745
This. They basically stretched his face over robot skull. Besides, think of all of the punishment Murphy took throughout the films; small arms fire through his fake mouth isn't going to do much.

>>13869474
>However, during action, it's complete dumb. One shot in the middle of his teeth and... bye.

Good job proving you never actually watched Robocop along with every other retard who spouts this crap.

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>>13869619
>cyborgs taking tons of machinegun bullets in the chest (and probably face) and staying alive.

Apparently getting popped in the mouth is very unlikely since that's exactly what happens in the Robocop. You can claim plot armor, but the first rule of shooting a target is to aim for center mass (torso area). Even people that don't handle guns much instinctively do this.

>>13870475
It's not even really his face, it's synthetic. When they have his former wife come see him (Robocop 2 i think) and he tells her to touch it, she's surprised that it's cold.
Robocop says "They made it....to honor him."

>>13870547

He was bullshitting. He didn't want her to be dragged down by the Robot man.

>>13870547
Well, I assumed its synthetic nature would be a given.
>>13870550
Has got it right though in that he wanted to spare her as much pain as possible by making the break as quick and final in her mind as he could.

>>13870605
Was there a scene of him peeling off his face?

Robercop is pretty cool. He's a cyborg which kinda counts I guess, the same way GITS stuff does. I was just talking about it with my friends today.

>>13857004
I'm a fresh new /m/ browser and what got me here was quitting /mu/, the biggest shithole on the site, and going to my favorite interest that isn't already a high populated board

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>>13870535
Nigga, that's not the point...

I'm looking those "combat scenes" from mid cinema/tv watcher perspective and you're looking it as a mech addicted. Some one say earlier: "Murphy's mouth is dead material made of metal with shit and blablabla". Jesus, it's a small dialogue line from Robocop 2. Ordinary people who watched Robocop 1 in cinemas don't even knew it... By the way, he eats that baby snot from movie 1 using (theoretically) his mouth, so...

...in essence, what I'm trying to say is simple: the mouth, even for a cyborg like robocop, is one of the few exposed organic parts, without protection. Visually speaking, it's a vulnerable spot, so........ the mouth protection (jiban type, optimus prime type, whatever) is more plausible (tactically speaking) in action scenes.

On the other point, the mouth exposed is better in dialogue scenes. Obviously.

In general, a mix of both (maybe a movable protection, like optimus) could be the best type.

JUST IT.

>>13873477
jesus this is some OCD level of nitpicking , but i don´t care if it helps to give exposer to the glory that is KIDOU KEIJI JIBAN

Remembered I need to watch Bersercop.

>>13873477
>Jesus, it's a small dialogue line from Robocop 2

Dude you can clearly see it's just skin grafted over metal from one of the most important scenes in the first movie >>13869745 If you're gonna run your mouth about a flaw at least know what the fuck you're talking about.

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what did you guys think of the new ED?

>>13874070
I liked it. It obviously can't compete with the original, but the redesign didn't offend me like the actual Robocop armor's did.

>>13869474
>Stop being a fag.

Ironing

>>13861437
>>13863987
Good to see more Toronto bros on /m/

>>13856755
No.

>>13868612
Looks about the same bbqh

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>>13873477
>All this damage control

Damn, man. Either admit you are wrong or don't reply at all.

>>13874070

i like the design, but they didn't make it the dumb bucket of bolts with guns that the original was. Then again, the new movie has a completely different tone than the 1987 film.

>>13873477
>>13874037

Don't forget that the one guy said "total body prosthesis" when they were making him and in the third film the one doctor said that they transplanted the face.

>>13874070
Overdesigned piece of shit.

I guess that's thematically relevant, but I'm not sure if that thought went into the design process.

>>13879066
yeah Rubbercup needed a bit more than just when Batman wanted him black because tactical if it was trying for that
like when they had the line about "we've never lost a blue code person" I expected their death to be preceded by a gag about them being downgraded to green code or something.

So how is the reboot? Looks like one of those movies where you see potential scattered through out but ultimately has gone to waste through studio meddling.

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>>13879212

>>13879265
PG-13 action movie should tell you everything you need to know.
It's shit.

>>13879265
Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. I can live without the ultra-violence of the original, but they also didn't match the satirical tone of the Verhoeven films. And personally I didn't like the direction they went with the new one. I don't understand why they kept the hand and but also he starts out knowing he was turned into a robot while the Verhoeven version was more of a machine learning to regain its humanity.