Gundam IBO (Iron blooded Orphans)

Kudelia looks like a code geass character there

>>13843082
Kudelia IS a Code Geass character
that's why IBO is so shit

>>13843063
>18ep. "Voice"
Cause all they are going to do is stand around and talk about shit we know

Jesus fucking Christ, the previews pics are so fucking boring, they look all the same, every week it is like they upload the same set of pics.

>>13843107
>Kudelia IS a Code Geass character
Not really. Gundam has had this kind of character for decades.

Yawn, so EP.17 was a fluke. Hopefully Ein dies sometime soon.

>>13843107
Cool mouth, does it talk with dialog?

>>13843063
>Ein gets rekt again

kek

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>>13843063

>>13843063
Fumitan evil sister?

>>13843063
Doesn't look at bad. Could they have 2 good episodes in a row?

>>13843063
UGH. Looks like another episode where poor written characters stand around talking and we see a bunch of shots of giant robots standing still.

People hate on the Aldnoah zero for their bland characters and CGI Mecha but at least the FUCKING GIANT ROBOTS DID SOMETHING IN EVERY EPISODE.

>>13843948
No Aldnoah Zero is one of the worst mech in a damn long time. IBO is boring but it isn't anywhere near as bad as that embarrassment.

>u want hot brood batoru?
>here kudeliya dialogue
>fuk u
>more robots standing still
>here's char so mysterious amrite
>here's time travel Japanese lady with a blue graze I wonder what would happen to her in MS combat

SHITE BROWS

>>13843140
Each week they have to pick pics that aren't full QUALITY, that's why most of them are boring.

Trainwreck when?

>>13844014
could you explain the a/z hate? all i know is that /m/ hates it and /a/ loves it. my friend keeps saying to watch it but active raid, dem w, pso2, and ibo take up my anime slots.

>>13843063
i really wanna know what she says that would stop that huge fleet of known corrupt assholes to not make Swiss cheese of them

>>13844456
It's a meme to "hate" it here just like ZZ Gundam. Ignore anyone claiming otherwise because they're just memeing the good meme as well.

>>13844430
Already happened, senpai

>>13844456
>/a/ loves it
I haven't been to /a/ in a while, but what I remember while it was airing, and about half a year after it ended, is that /a/ also hated the show itself but occasionally had fun with speculah that is, when the threads weren't just seasonal shitposting

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I won't continue watching unless Fumitan is revealed to still be Alive

>>13844456
It wasn't good.

>>13844456
A/Z is rightfully hated but it gets meme'd to the Xtreme because it aired at the same time as G-Reco, so "stick to A/Z" has given it probably 20-40% more presence than it would have otherwise. The fact that it was what everyone shat on for being the casual show of the season(s) is telling, though.

Bad CG, but not awful. You could work with it since the rest of the animation was alright.
Bad story. It was a mess in many aspects and kuh-RAZY twists didn't help.
Bad characters.
I fucking hated how bad the "science" was but some people didn't mind I guess (It's one thing to say photon missile or antimatter engine and it is another entirely to base your fights around pseudo-Treknobabble)
It's shit.

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Remember when previews where not just people staring at nothing?
Remember when Gundam was not just boring close-up over close-up over other close-ups?
Remember when Gundam had characters moving and acting?
Remember when Gundam had characters doing something on the background?

>>13844644
IBO is so fucking cheap on every level.

>>13844663
>surprised
>smug
>happy
>excited
>genki
>composed
>curious
>surprised
>moved
>upset
>in distress
>angry
The amount of expressions in that preview alone is something like 3 times what we have got in almost 20 episodes of IBO.

>>13844678
I really don't have much to say about IBO since there isn't much to dicuss about it. May as well call it QUALIBO considering how embarassing to look at it is most of the time.

>>13844644
>That strawberry decal/design on Noredo's Shoe.

Small details mang

>>13844688
I bet this guy wouldn't be able to sit through Turn A because "its boring"

>>13844688
When did Gundam truly start being about politics? Wasn't that WING nonsense? Followed by SEED nonsense, 00 nonsense and Unicorn nonsense?

>>13844705
When kids and neckbeards start feeling they need to show that their choice of entertainment is deep.

>>13844742
>>13844705
>>13844693
This is comment came from IBOfags on youtube mind you

>>13844644
Everyone in this show is so /fa/

>>13844644
Look at how gorgeous the backgrounds are compared to >>13843063 grey and blue/grey. I get that IBO is trying to go all super cereal you can make that nice to look at still

>>13844692
nice catch

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It seems like episode 20 will be the start of the earth arc. I think we're close to the climax now.

>>13844864
This really can't end soon enough.

>>13844864
>episode 20
We've got 2 more episodes till the fucking earth?

What are they even going to do? Defeat all of the ghorns fleet surrounding earth? If they are known and in orbit for any time surely they'd be destroyed

>>13844864
GUTS GET OFF THE FUCKING BOAT!

>>13844870
>Defeat all of the ghorns fleet surrounding earth?
That would imply fights.

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>>13844688

You know what is a random thing IBO has missed doing? Showing us the grunt pilots and humanising them

They don't do it in every fight in other shows but usually you get a few seconds to show that there is a pilot in there, usually showing them scared, angry from fear or trying to help a comrade. That few seconds just reminds you oh yeah that is a human who got killed, but we never see Graze pilots. The only time they sort of did it was the Brewers arc but the problem there is no one seemed to address or care they were murdering slave kids, they only did for one as he was Gut's brother.

>>13844896

PEDRO WILL NEVER EAT CHOCOLATE BARS ANYMORE

>>13844920
who?

>>13844920
PEDRO COULD HAVE BEEN AN ACQUAINTANCE TO ME!

>>13844920
PEDRO WAS 15
HE LOVED TO PLAY THE PIANO

>>13844688
G Gundam had politics, people AND mindless nonsensical action.

Someone tell that person to stop being a pretentious prick.

>>13844945
So when are we gonna get a Gundam show that doesn't have people?

>>13844947
SD

>>13844644
Inshal-sucorda G-reco will be vindicated in future.

>>13844947
SD Gundam?

>>13844951
>Inshal-SUcorda

Mashal-SU Corda Brother....that is Haram

>>13844951
>well IBO wasn't all that great but at least it wasn't greco!
There is just summed up every MAL, reddit and wherever else thread at the end of IBO

>>13844953
>that is taboo

One job,anon.

>>13844955
>t at least it wasn't greco!

That's why it fizzled out after 3 episodes

>>13844864
>I think we're close to the climax now.

Or, are we?

That leaves 5 episodes to wrap it up.

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>>13844947

The Series will end when the orphan arrive at Earth.
And it will continue with a new season about Earth Politics akin to Wing

>>13844970
>Or, are we?
>That leaves 5 episodes to wrap it up.

From what the producer said, the goal was reaching earth and that there will be more fights towards the end.

But it could be just he producer bullshitting to keep people watching.

>>13844977
>From what the producer said, the goal was reaching earth
I think the issue is with this is the plot still feels like it hasn't really started because we haven't got deep into the issues/politics of earth, mars or even the colonies. It's all just a very basic they are oppressive

The show was meant to be about the journey, but the journey has felt like filler

>>13844981
>The show was meant to be about the journey, but the journey has felt like filler

That's the best way to put it, they treated the most important factor of the show like filler and as people are just waiting for things to get started, it will end.

It's obvious the main theme of the show, is the oppressed youth trying to find their way to happiness and somehow that will appeal to younger audiences but it's too straightforward and lacks excitement.

>>13844559
The only chance his Biscuit dick brother rescuing Fumitan.

So is this getting another season? It feels like a 50 episode show.

>>13843898
>>13844300
Are we sure this new character is a lady? This make-up reminds of Alto (from Macross Frontier) job before he becomes a pilot (onna-gata)

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>>13844986
>but it's too straightforward and lacks excitement.
I think the problem is it lacks detail

Take the dort workers. Their workplace seems nice and they all seem clean and healthy, many were even old so suggest the work isn't extremely gruelling. Their apartments seem nice and they can afford technology like tablets or are given them. That one guy commented he used a spinner rodi for work so they get newish custom made suits for the job. There didn't seem to be any type of racism to the lower class, really the only bad things we saw happen is when they bought illegal firearms including three fucking tanks.

I think they didn't do this because they were badly attempting a grey morality where the workers didn't look so great, but the gjallarhorn are just so unapologetically bad anyway and they don't do enough with that grey so it doesn't work. It just ends up being two groups in a side dispute no one cares about that both seem stupid

>>13845013
It really lacks interesting side characters. There's a lot of time spent on these supposedly important plot points but there's nothing to make them interesting to watch.

Any news on the dubs? I wanna watch it for shits-giggles and also JYB.

>>13845003
Nothing confirmed yet, and judging by it's poor performance on all fronts except Graze kits (and even that's supposedly dying down) I doubt Sunrise would invest in it. If they really do announce a Unicorn Gundam TV version in the next week or so as rumoured, then we can probably count a S2 of IBO out

God those Brewers episodes feel so unnecessary now. It's like they had to create an arc just to have a reason to introduce the gusion. Sure guts got some development but he's hardly relevant now and I don't expect he's going to play too great a role in the coming episodes as everything starts to wrap up other than just being extra muscle in the fights coming up.

>>13845040
The whole thing with Teiwaz was drawn out too. Same with the union arc. If they can't make something less bland at least skip through it quicker.

>>13845032
>and judging by it's poor performance on all fronts except Graze kits
[citation needed]

Attempting to say that model kits are underperforming is ridiculous because you have no way of proving that.

>>13845067
if i said the kits sales are doing great will you also said the same thing?

>>13845067
>you have no way of proving that.
We had a thread about this a few days ago, with testimony from actual Nips that people are losing interest in the gunpla.
Keep up, IBOfag. OR rather, kill yourself.

>>13845070
Yes, because it's a fact that we don't know either way. Everybody just has to kind of guess and make assumptions.

For what it's worth according to Derringer the Barbatos has outsold the Build Strike and Build Burning... internationally anyway.

>>13845074
>>13845067
>>13845070
Okay to clear this up and to calm one of you down

As derringer >>13839107 has said the Barbatos has done well, but only thinks the others will because of apparent popularity of the series. That popularity is debatable as is if that translates to kit sales

>>13845076
In the same sentence, he also claimed that the plastic was moving pretty well and that "IBO is getting people who wouldn't normally buy gunpla to buy some"

>>13845081
I'd love to see what proof he has

>>13845081
no he said would not is, there is a big difference there. One if prediction the other is fact

>>13845084
He literally has sales data.

>>13845085
Now you're just being petty.

>>13845087
Where's the data?

>>13845089
Chillin with worf nigga

>>13845087
>Now you're just being petty.
No because that is a very big distinction

Saying this has sold well and I think this will sell well is very different. Especially when what he is betting on a debatable popularity and the main suit selling well, series with main suits that sell well don't always have good sales in other kits

>>13845089
It's derringer you nonce

>>13845092
I don't care about his reputation, unless I see the data myself, I'm not going to take some schmuck on 4chan's word for it.

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>>13845094
Here he is

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>>13845104
Fake
There's no way he would have gotten past the captcha

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>>13845092
Derringer knows Michael dorn?

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Why did this show hire Aoki to direct the OP?

>>13845125
>Mech is a crumpled broken mess, unused in the background.
>kudelia is in front and centre
Like pottery

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>>13844877
It could imply implied fights.

>>13845121
Captain, I must protest - I am not a pimp!

>>13845143
It rhymes .

Kudelia is the key to all this.
Because we have her as the princess character

>>13845121
>you will never chill with Derringer and Worf watching goofy korean ripoff cartoons

>>13843063
For some reason I don't feel any gravity thanks since everything feels "empty" . Too much space and little to no crowd.
Add to that they fucked up space arc for almost half of the series.

This series has pretty much emulated the structure of Gundam Wing. Exciting start, boring middle and mildly interesting end.

I do hope if they do any sequel,do it like 3 OVA long Endless Waltz( the whole Maiden of revolution thing is pretty much that) , not something like 25 ep long frozen teardrop.

>>13845201
>Exciting star
Sure we loved them reminding us what Alala Vagina was every 5 minutes.

>>13844785
>Look at how gorgeous the backgrounds are compared to >>13843063 (OP) grey and blue/grey. I get that IBO is trying to go all super cereal you can make that nice to look at still


One thing G-Recko can't be critised on is the art.
It's very detailed, and varied. With lots of tiny touches. It shows the animators cared to create a living breathing world. The story is a mess because of pacing, but it's one of the niceset Gundam series ever. IBO doesn't even begin to approach that type of qualilty. It's as if Sunrise had take a bunch of 6 year olds, given them blue crayons and go ahead draw. Monocolor, bare backgrounds and foregrounds is all we've got.

>>13845217
Yeah I think they tried to make IBO look "gritty" and "realistic" but it just ended up looking bland.

>>13845217
>The story is a mess because of pacing

Stick to A/Z, found the retard, blah blah blah, let's just get this out of the way before the dedicated shitposters surface.

>>13845224
I think bland is just studio 3's signature style
Victory, seed/destiny, 00, age, gbf/try and now ibo. Don't get me wrong they can animate pretty well when they want to but stylistically it is very bland. Like the way they use colours and the silly gradients and the way they shade mecha hasn't changed since seed

>>13844864
Any translations for these?

>>13844864
The final battle being set on Earth is the new formula now, it seems.

>>13845254
they blew all their shading load on 0083 I guess

>>13844705
1979. Do you not remember all the parts involving the bickering Zabis?

>>13845393
The bickering zabis was a subsubplot that barely mattered to the story of 0079.

>>13845406
>The bickering zabis was a subsubplot that barely mattered to the story of 0079.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh man what a laugh. 0079 is about Char getting his revenge on the Zabi family while fighting a newtype kid named Amuro.

>>13845143
I can barely remember any shots of Mika in the OP

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>>13845406
what?

>>13845427
That has nothing to do with politics, it's just one man putting a mask on hoping to get his revenge on his father's killers then forgetting all of it to take down a teenager.

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>>13845443
Please tell me its not going to just repeat an entire 0079 plot point.
RIP Gaelio and fuck you chocopedobirdchar

>>13845461
>Gihren zabi rallying Zeon to crush the federation and avenge garma. whole arc after this has Ral going out specifically to take out white base for this very reason. Then we have m'quve fucking ral over by not giving him doms because of his allegiances to kycillia and wanting to keep their mining base he's at a secret from the rest of the zabis
thats just the start
stop pretending you watched 0079

>>13845462
What the fuck is even NotChar doing at this point?

He seemed to want to capture Kudelia at one point but then let her leave to get assassinated. He doesn't seem to be on a gjallarhorn ship right now and I'm still not sure what purpose his disguise serves. This guy is the closest thing we have to a main antagonist and I'm not even sure if he is one

>>13844688
So wait, what are IBO's political points? Kudelia's conflicting interests with her father, her working with the fat man, something something REVOLUTION, whatever the fat guy is doing behind the scenes with McWeaboo, and whatever Birdman Char is doing with his father? Man, all these open plotlines are going to leave a ton of time for mecha battles in these last few episodes :^)

>>13845493
I guess he wants to use her for his plan to reform Gyallarhorn. Maybe use her to draw the corrupt Gyallarhorn into a fight and using his disguise so he can fight them without being blamed? Frankly the disguise looks dumb as fuck.

>>13845505
Surely the ones who are most corrupt aren't those going out in MS, at least not 90% of the time. The guys who will be doing the fucked up things are the bureaucrats commanding everything from comfy offices

>>13845094
Hes not some random schmuck hes in charge of gunpla in the u.s.

>>13845511
Normally I'd say it's Gundam, they can find a way to solve it with a mecha fight like with Alejandro in 00. Since this is IBO however, I have no idea.

>>13845040
>>13845496
This show has done an awful job of balancing the politcal aspect, kudelia/mcgillis's side of the story with the story of these orphans. The orphans feel barely relevant anymore, they've just become kudelias pawns. I can only hope that this is an actual plot point because they really have just gone from being child soldiers for some dodgy mercenary business to the child soldiers of an insurgency headed by a supposed revolutionary with incredibly unconvincing credentials. I sincerely hope Orga or someone realises this

>>13844693
Or that G-Reco makes no sense.
>>13844950
I'm actually seeing a lot of the hate dying down right now. The people complaining the loudest are gone, and it's easier to remember things when you can finish the show in a few sittings.

Urobutcher's thoughts on it may help as well, as well as people fighting ANN's narrative.

>>13845576
Sorry, was meant for
>>13844951

>>13845565
I don't like how it turns Mika and Orga into boring side characters. I don't need them to have a huge personality change or anything but I wanted to see them act and deal with interesting things. They've both been stuck in the background for several episodes.

>>13845565
The problem here is a duality

The orphans and Kudelia's pointless complaining gets all the focus despite not being very plot relevant (the orphans not even caring about politics), but all the plot is in the political side which gets no attention

>>13845013
Fuck, they just copied and pasted the same workers like 5 times.

>>13845581
Mika has been stuck in the background for the whole show. His only credential to being one is having a Gundam, and now that Guts does as well but he also had (bad) character development he is more a main character

>>13845592
>>13845013
I still can't get over them bringing guns to a peace march. This whole arc was dumb.

>>13845604
>I still can't get over them bringing guns to a peace march.
I still can't believe they really did it. It is like Okada has never really seen a peaceful demonstration in the streets. Farmers don't bring tanks, they bring tractors.

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>>13845604
>>13845626
Maybe she watched SEED.

>>13845604
>Man that military can easily out power us, we need to match them and so force
>YEAH! So like 3 tanks should be enough right?
Then again their reflexes are so slow you can pick a gun off the floor and shoot them so maybe there is some logic to it

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>>13845604
I just had to do it. Seriously, where is the budget for this show going?

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>>13845581
>>13845585
How can we be expected to care about the story when not even the MC does?

>>13845665
An MC can not care about the story, but then he does need to still be involved. Mika's only real involvement is that he pilots a suit, nothing would change much if you put Eugene or someone else in his place

>>13845598
Mika had a lot of potential in the first few episodes. He was autistic but he had good reason, since he had all of that emphasis on Orga's and his backstory about REAL orphan problems; he was 100% dedicated to Orga to the point that even Orga felt uneasy with it, which could have made an interesting dynamic (especially if something divided their interests) instead of the perfect leader/perfect pilot pair we got; he was brutal but had moments like putting Atra's bracelet behind his back in some kind of protective manner; he linked to Barbatos perfectly and it told him its name, but all that really matters now is "h-he had his limiter off!!" like it's a shounen manga...

All that wasted, and that goes for a few other characters too. I guess I was reading too much into it. I had hoped Okada and Nagai together would create something at the very least melodramatic and edgy but we end up with blandness and boredom and QUALITY.

>>13845685
I think Mika had the ingredients to be a good character but from the start there was just something about the writing where I felt this show was never going to be much more than generic drama.

Even then I thought we'd at least get the split between Orga and Mika, I guess we still might but it's a bit late.

>>13845663
That can't be real.

>>13845665
Kudelia cares about the plot though.

>>13845581

Mika isn't the hero of the story in a classic sense. He and Orga don't need to be our cheif focus because I think the intention with IBO is to turn Tekkadan itself into the hero for whom we root.

By focusing less on Mika in a very typical mecha anime way, the focus instead then shifts to the actions of the group as a whole.

I've found the show quite enjoyable. While the characters can be off the wall and stupid sometimes, all of their actions contribute enjoyably to the overall story of a slumdog merc company trying to make it in space.

>>13845729
Except nobody on the crew gets a great deal of focus so I don't get your point, in fact that's generally the problem is that Mika isn't much of a protagonist and neither is Orga so there's no reason to care or root for them. Its like people who like this show only like the ideas it has but not the execution.

>>13845757
>Except nobody on the crew gets a great deal of focus
This

Orga gets the occasional be a better captain speech despite pulling of everything he has ever done well. Gut liked shouting about muh debris but we never got to see him be treated worse so it fall flat. And then we have everyone's favourite, rich girl who is a leading figure of a planetary independance movement has lost confidence making every scene she is in about this.

At best for other characters we get a vague "I have family" or "I'm angry and need to prove myself." No one's relationship is complex or multifaceted.

>>13845721
It is, and I realize I missed a few by the banner.

>>13845665
Mika has never been mc, much less a character.

>>13845930

I have to agree, I'd say Kudelia is the MC.

>>13845493
>What the fuck is even NotChar doing at this point?
He's there to give us exposition

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>>13845963
Finally a mask more useless than Chronicle Asher, who was a red herring and not the real rival. Praise be unto Okada and Nagai.

>>13845995
He is literally useless, because as a character he has no point in being. he has no use

>>13845995
>that design
He looks like a Code Geass reject.

>>13846019
Please, the noodle people designs were much more pleasing and interesting to look at.

/m/, would you prefer to have a second season with a big interplanetary war and have all these episodes as setting the groundwork for that

or

make it end in these next 5 eps. and let IBO be forgotten as the nothing it was?

>>13846031
>make it end in these next 5 eps. and let IBO be forgotten as the nothing it was?
This

It will be remember as a show some try to argue wasn't THAT bad and others will say is a snooze fest.

>>13846031
Option 2. Would take only 1 week for everyone to forget it ever aired.

>>13846031
I'd rather have okada and nagai commit shinpachi in front of everyone in apology.

>>13846031
The latter, there's nothing interesting about this setting or cast.

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>>13846031
>second season with a big interplanetary war
And have it ended up just like first season? Nah, no thanks.
Option 2 please, unless second season becomes a fun trainwreck.

>>13846031
Well, none of the recent episodes made me think "I want to see more of that". I wouldn't mind a better, more interesting IBO but it would have to change completely over the next few episodes.

If it's too exciting for you, you don't have to watch.

>>13846057
But the question is - do you think they'll be able to pull off a sudden increase in quality in these last 7 or so episodes?

I really want to know more about IBO's production

I want to know what the actual structure for getting a script done was. I want to know where all the horribly clashing character designs came from. I want to know how this was lead as it seems no one is guiding the story. I want to know how well the thought this would do and the plans for it.

>>13846064
Not really. I'm still holding out hope it will have better fights and some actual plot. I guess I'd like to be optimistic but it's getting harder every week.

>>13846066
Apparently from the promotional trailer, all the staff is "giving their all".

>>13846031
Just end it asap.

You can't salvage the characters at this point and as proven by Trailblazed, big bloated action helps nothing, quite the oppposite.

>>13845685
I do think the addition of Teiwaz detracted from the characters. Instead of Orga struggling to get over his inadequacies as a leader, he basically became "muh aniki" to solve all his doubts for him. Likewise, the whole idea of Barbatos cannibalizing parts gets thrown out when they just completely restored it to its original form.

>>13846144
It also ruins the whole achievement of them doing anything. Barely a week in space and they get one of the biggest underworld groups to let them sign up but pretty much owe them nothing.

Them unprepared going into pirate territory is scary, them which a veteran mafia team? Not so much

>>13846160
brewers were supposedly pretty famous too. Notfellini and his ship should have been destroyed in the brewers fight and by the end of the arc orga now has the difficult task of managing tekkadan without help as well as the remainders of notfellinis harem. Orga has to grow to fill fellinis boots basically. Merrybit is also too helpful so something has to be done about her as well.
At least then the whole brewers thing would have had some lasting relevance to the story. It was too focused on guts

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I am confused, what is this weird blue robot doing on the cover of the IBO BR box?

>>13846061
>If it's too exciting for you, you don't have to watch.


It's okay man, I've dumped IBO at the end of the second episode. It was pretty clear at the time where this was going i.e NOWHERE. Fafner Exodus has more going in 2 episodes than IBO in 15. IBO is fail from start to end, it's even shittier than A/Z. Mika worse than Inaho, they did it I just couldn't believe it.
The fact is the people working on IBO simply do not give a rat's ass about it. If they don't care why should we care ?

>>13846878
looks sexy.

>>13846144
>>13846160
Teiwaz sucks. I seriously think they were put into the show to combat the fujo complaints and for the shock of having a legit harem. The problem with that is that Naze doesn't even interact with most of his wives. They may have children by him but they still seem to be his wives because the show said so and not because they actually are.

>>13846893
>WHY ISN'T THIS TRAIN OFF THE RAILS YET

>>13846914
>having a legit harem
Shock is what IBO relies on, all the positive talk is always one shocking moment

>MIka is so brutal shooting those guys XD
>Lol harem that means sex
>OMG dey kissued
>oh shit is is sad cus he's dead and was his brother

>>13846893
>it's even shittier than A/Z. Mika worse than Inaho,
Wouldn't go that far

>>13846997
I'm inclined to agree with the other anon. Mika is managing to be even more irrelevant than Inaho, which is quite a feat. Just see >>13845665
He doesn't care nor want to inform himself about what is happening around him.
Now he's just Kudelia's fanboy who eats in the bg. He doesn't stand out in battle or outside of it. Not that he has to be a gary stu who controls the battlefield but he has nothing whatsoever going for him.

>>13847048
Mika is nothing while Inaho was a parasite that made the show a slog to get through the latter is mire offensive as a whole.

>>13847106
The problem is that IBO suffers from being very dull as is so a dull MC makes that even worse. At least Inaho you can be angry at and laugh about cause all the shit he pulls. What has Mika got? He kissed a girl, and then not advanced that sub plot for three episodes. He shot someone, 15 episodes ago.

In a show that is good in general it is better have a passive character than an awful one, in a bad show just fucking go for it cause at least that gives something

>>13847106
Both shows would be boring with or without them but I'll take the parasite. At least I'll remember he exists in the show.

>>13847183
>At least Inaho you can be angry at and laugh about cause all the shit he pulls.
No I can't because his antics don't amuse me and I'm not sure why the fuck you would watch something to get mad at it, seems like a waste of time really.

>>13847183
Mika is largely inoffensive and nothing about him is as bad as Inaho unless you just don't like the show as a whole, hell he's not even the weakest element in IBO like Inaho is in A/Z he's just not much of a MC.

>>13847207
>his antics don't amuse me
And Mika's lack of anything does?

It's the difference between watching a train wreck and a train slowly crawling so slowly that it takes an our to go a meter. A wreck has something to be engaged about and yes watching something just fuck up is amusing and entertaining to many people

>>13847201
That makes no sense but whatever floats your boat.

>>13847232
>MUH TRAINWRECK

Please kill yourself, A/Z was just plain bad in all and there was nothing entertaining about it. IBO is just boring and uninspired.

>>13847242
jeez calm your edge. No one is arguing AZ is a good show, the point is people would rather have points to engage in than nothing at all.

You just aren't the sort of person who picks up on things.

>>13847252
>the point is people would rather have points to engage in than nothing at all.
Seems like you would like to stickyour head into shit than nothing at all.

>>13847252
>points to engage

Just admit that you're one of those retards who purposely pursue shitand guise it as LEL EPIC TRAINWRECK meme. All he's saying is that you can't use the same argument for a bad show, IBO is just meh.

>>13847278
That will be true if your rating scale is binary.

We are now at the point where we're complaining Gundam is not a trainwreck.

Might I suggest Gundam Seed Destiny if that's what you're looking for?

We are now at the point where /m/ cannot read.

We are now at the point where people believe A/Z was entertaining.

>>13847402
Maybe because we tell them to stick it to A/Z so much they really did stick it.

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>>13846031
>would you prefer to have a second season with a big interplanetary war and have all these episodes as setting the groundwork for that

Because pic related.

>>13846031
Too boring with no conflict in the story. Option 2 please. I don't give a shit about these characters and they would need to spend a ton of the second season setting up the Mars forces because we left the planet too soon to learn anything about it. I don't give a fuck about Mars and they made it that way with the way they handled it.

>>13846031

End this so we can move on, please.

>>13847242
All the same shit but even retards can't manage to give a fuck about IBO's characters.

>>13847290
>meh
I hate it when queers use this meaningless word

>>13847290
He's using AZ as an comparison and that show was never a trainwreck. It was boring and took itself completely seriously, but was far from being a trainwreck. That would imply it left the station.

The argument seems to be IBO is incredibly shitty, boring and forgettable and could use something to make it actually memorable rather than being fucking nothing for 23 minutes.

Despite shows like AZ being what they were, they managed to generate more discussion, viewership, speculation and interest.

When does it stream?

>>13848555
Main stream died last week. Don't know if it'll ever come back.

>>13848600
SPACE HITLER LIVES

>>13848600
Hey remember when he had 5 scenes about how he is an evil adult who betrays kids in one episode?

People say this show was good at the start

Nothing happened but atmospheric battle next week

Robot battles next ep

>>13848600
What happened to him? Did he not want to kill Tekkadan? Why is helping Birdman now?

>>13847668

That's because AZ, despite being a disaster for many reasons that shouldn't be discussed itt, was ambitious with the setting, the plot and there was something big they tried to tell us. They failed but the will and potential was there.

IBO is nothing, its scope is minimal and it seems to be aimless so, yes, a boring but consistent show that leaves you indifferent is better by default than a huge failure that makes you mad/disappointed but in the end even AZ will be more memorable han IBO which will be forgotten a week after it stops airing.

>>13848603
Had potential. Not perfect, and I wouldn't even say it was exceptional. Probably just above good. I think we all read into Okada's presence too much and expected every detail to matter or become some part of an elaborate melodrama. It would have been a fun knightly romp as mercenaries who seemed have no side or maybe a train wreck that we could have enjoyed.

But, instead of a train wreck, rollercoaster or adventure, what we got was a tour through the rice processing plant with the tour guide who wants to make everything SUPER FUNTASTIC by repeating that same joke over and over again. And by the end we still aren't really sure if we learned how rice is processed.

>>13848600
So what? Chocolate man hates corrupt adults who use their position of power to turn Gjallahorn into shit but keeps this guy around? Are they trying to tell me this bokan gang reject is supposed to be useful to him?

>>13848663
He hates corruption but seems to be trying to kill off people while pretending to be someone else and then will likely take power. he also plans to trick Kudelia but it is so unclear now as he nearly let her die

Basically, Not-char is a shit character

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The only reason she isn't the worst design is cause the brewers exist

She even has a dumb little katana

>>13848667
I'd let her be like a mother to me, if you know what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3EUjT42Gi4
English

Also kek Space Hitler is back

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>>13848813
>there are people on /m/ who literally watch anime on youtube

>>13848667
>draw a random grunt gjallarhomo
>slap a wig on it, and make his face fatter
>call it a girl

>>13848813
>Everyone is somewhat mourning Fumitan
>Despite the fact that she barely interacted with the cast

They don't even try with this show.

>>13848834
not exactly Fumitan, but her funbags-tan

>>13848830
>he doesn't know that his "subs" are actually rips from either Youtube, Crunchyroll or Daisuki
let's all laugh at the idiot.

Space Hitler said it well:
>so those kids got their lives saved again
>talk about luck

>>13848830
Welcome to the new age of streaming grandpa. It's been like this for a while, I'm just glad I can get the same high quality video from Youtube/Daisuki.

You should only torrent Blu-rays if you cannot afford them or live in a country where you cannot purchase them

Fun ep, liked Mika cuddling both girls, what a player.

>>13848830
>20 fucking 16
>downloading TV torrents
>not waiting for touched up, fixed BDs to be torrented.

>>13848848
>>13848855
>watching something in a browser
>not downloading it and watching it with placebo player of choice filled with placebo filters
If your gonna watch shit, then at least put some effort into making it "less shit".

>>13848860
>If your gonna watch shit, then at least put some effort into making it "less shit".

Hardly any difference with the player and browser for the show these days. Get with the times.

>>13848848
fucking filtered

>>13848866
>fucking triggered

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>>13848866

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This show is pretty gay

>>13848873
You think in a show with a decent amount of shirtless dudes they'd learn to draw muscles

>Mika just spots Chocoman as if it ain't no thing
Seriously?

>>13848889
What was even the point of the disguise?

>>13848889
>i skipped the last few episodes

He already knew when he met him in the colony

>>13848895
Mika didn't meet him at the colony, Kudelia and Fumi did

>>13848895
>I didn't watch last few episodes

>that political something-or-other woman
The curse of the clashing character designs strikes again!

>>13848894
CACAWWW

>>13848901
Could have sworn he did.

And then they had a threesome. While crying.

So in 6 episodes how are they going to wrap this up?

Why was Mika so shocked when Kudelia started talking?

Why is everyone acting like she is amazing now?

Why are they acting like this could effect anything? Put out a press release that says she is a criminal trying to cover this all up

>>13848928

S2.

>>13848929
because Kudelia finally did something instead of being useless

>>13848928
>lands on earth
>Kusodelia makes another speech
>everyone is amazed and have their eyes opened to the truth
>UNDERSTANDING

>>13848930
Considering how it's doing in Japan is its moderate success in the west enough for banrise to want to take the risk?

>>13848933
Considering the Unicorn TV show I think this won't be getting a second season. At least not for the moment.
It might be interesting seeing how a competent writer would actually tackle having to write a sequel to IBOring, though. And if the normies would bitch.

>>13848928
Didn't they already announce S2

>>13848848
>, I'm just glad I can get the same high quality video from Youtube
you really cant

>>13848940
No

>>13848938
>Considering the Unicorn TV show
Not happening, that was confirmed to be fake.


There won't be a IBO Second season, this was also debunked, enjoy your rush ending and shitty movie

>>13848933
What moderate success? Views on Daisuki don't translate into cash. The dub deal was a mistake and they're going to regret it. Origin put up just enough hope for more BD releases, not a dub of their recent train wrecks. They got greedy.

>>13848941
Yes you can unless you have a toaster

>Garma did I mention I had a backstory? Cause we forgot to put that in so have to squeeze it in now
>Well done Ein, your power of exposition are growing

>>13848950
Are you blind, underage, or so old you have no idea how technology works these days?

>>13848951
Who wants to bet Ein will bite it the next episode?

>>13848929
Kudelia is Lacus now.

>>13848948
You really don't see the bigger picture do you? Do you not know how things work anymore? It's not about TV ratings, it's about streaming and its success, IBO has been opened world wide more than any other Gundam show, it's popularity is huge outside of Japan. Whenever you like it or not, IBO is bringing tons of cash to Bandai/Sunrise and this is a good thing because they will see how good of a move it was to make Gundam accessible to a wider audience

>>13848953
>I pretend to know what technology is

Master Degree in Software Engineering working on Lockheed Martin, wanna go 1 on 1 with me mate?

>I am going to reform by doing sneaky outside work where I kill my superiors and help enemies that could be seen as terrorists
That kinda sounds a little corrupt and I'm not sure the show realises it

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>kudelia sugoi
>kudelia s-sugoi!
>kudelia let me suck your dick more
>wow kudelia is so sugoi
>あああああああああああああああ

>>13844644

How is this any different?

>>13848963
Also, he wants more freedom. Definitely sounds sketchy as fuck.

>>13848961
And my dad owns Microsoft. I can shut down your PC from the main Windows server. Scared yet, son? Scared you might lose your massive encrypted CP collection?

>>13848848
>missing out on that prime [EG] content
Your loss

>>13848957
Got any sources on that m8? All I've been seeing are low viewership numbers compared to other things this season combined with all the reviews starting with "I have been a Gundam fan forever...". American audiences don't like buying either. A subscription-based service like Netflix is what the people want. They don't care about buying anything, they want to stream, consume, and discard ASAP.

>>13848957
>it's popularity is huge outside of Japan
Not it's not.

>>13848971
I figured as much kiddo. Go back to sucking your mommy's tit

>>13848975
>>13848973
>I have no grasp on reality

>>13848957
>it's popularity is huge outside of Japan
Even AZ was more popular
This show is only losing popularity the longer it drags on

>If it weren't for him
but he tried to stop you going out, thus she'd never take a bullet for you

>>13848975
>>13848973
Not him, but when stores like Gamestop, Hot Topic are bringing IBO specific merchandise due to costumer demand, it might mean something.

>>13848978
Everyone hated A/Z second season which crushed any chances it had to be a success.

>>13848961
Not that guy, but can you now put placebo filters like debanding or sharpening filters, or placebo scalers like jinc or nned13 on today's browser players?

>>13848977
>I still have no sources and will not point to statistics because they will betray me
These streamers will not buy jack shit, Bandai will get no money. This isn't 00 where popularity spread and gundam fans were reminded that the Franchise moved on from SEED. This is for seasonal casuals who will eat anything as long as it's free on crunchyroll

>>13848980
>but when stores like Gamestop, Hot Topic are bringing IBO specific merchandise
where?
http://www.hottopic.com/search?q=gundam
https://www.gamestop.co.uk/SearchResult/QuickSearch?q=gundam

>>13848977
>>13848980
Aldnoah has five times more people on MAL than IBO. If you're so delusional and base your ideas of how popular IBO is on conjecture, you best go fuck off back to another site where everyone will help foster your delusion.

Aldnoah had infinitely more hype on sites like IGN, Kotaku and ANN than IBO. Oh, and I LOVE all the proof you're giving me. It really lends credibility to your case.

>>13848986
>Gamestop.co.uk
US site has a few HG IBO gunpla. That's it.

>>13848990
>Aldnoah has five times more people on MAL than IBO
>Delusional
>basing his logic on MAL

We're done here.

>Oh, and I LOVE all the proof you're giving me. It really lends credibility to your case.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/7/15/mobile-suit-gundam-iron-blooded-orphans-trailer-ign-fr

http://kotaku.com/the-five-best-anime-of-2015-1750056677

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/search?q=Iron-Blooded+Orphans

>>13848986
http://www.gamestop.com/collectibles/toys/gundam-barbatos-hg-1-144-scale-gundam-iron-blooded-orphans-model-kit/127212

Hottopic locally has HG of Barbatos

>>13848999
So it's delusional to base my logic on ACTUAL numbers that represent how many people, on a site largely used by Western anime viewers, watch a certain show?
While you just give me insubstantial links that don't prove your point?

How fucking desperate and pathetic are you? Just fuck off

>>13848999
Why does amount of people talking about it not count but news pushing a show that got advertising does?

And lets look at another kotaku list of super popular anime to this day
>Witch Craft Works
>Sakura Trick
>Wizard Barristers
>The Pilot's Love Song
> World Conquest Zvezda Plot
http://kotaku.com/the-five-anime-of-winter-2014-you-should-be-watching-1524873352

All such huge shows in the west that changed the face of anime. Also really IGN posting a trailer? They have got shit all else on it as well

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Why is he so surprised? In IBO MSs are still in the hangar every week.

>>13849004
>Actual numbers
>from MAL
Truly delusional MAL numbers mean shit, do you even think MAL matters? What matters is the big numbers Daisuki/youtube pulls which grants them ad revenue, also lets not forget how the fucking gunplas are selling just as good. Are you that goddamn desperate that you need to use MAL to try and stablish an argument? FUCKING MAL? The same place that thinks G-Reco is the worst gundam in history? Really you damn fucking cock sucking idiot.

>>13849006
Hey, I kind of liked Witch Craft Works.

>>13849006
He wanted proof, just sayin

>>13849008
The desperation shows, buddy. You're not fooling anyone.

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GET YOUR ASS READY FOR UNDERSTANDING AND PACIFISM!

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>>13849004
>>13848990
>Mal as a source

Might as well use Yaraon as your source of everything

>MY ship

Fuck you, you stealing bitch.

>>13849015
>>13849008
>>13848999
Samefag.

>>13849012
The dialogue is subtle as ever. I don't know why I didn't realize IBO was made for children, sooner.

>>13849017
(You)

>>13848928
She gets to Earth and talks to the leader of the whatever and then you get an epilogue about how things got better.

>>13848940
There's no official source on the S2 reveal. The OST is listed as Season 1 but others have said it was the same for G Reco aswell.

>>13848999
How it that delusional when you are the one arguing about western popularity? It loses out to AZ in streaming as well. This show is dead in the water.

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Wow. What the fuck? Are they so lazy they are really going to use ZZ first draft and turn notJerid into a Cyber-Newtype? Get the fuck out, Okada.

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>info-dumping your backstory
>staff is so lazy and uninterested in your character they prefer to pan over the mechas
>they don't even bother to animate the workers

Being Ein is suffering.

First episode has 500k views ( obviously because new gundam series hype and guys like JonTron advertising it)
Second has about 300k
Third has 220k
...
Skip to episode 15, that has just 80k
Episode 16 has 71k
Episode 17 has 62k
And episode 18 has about 2k (presumably since it just came out)
It probably isn't fair to use Youtube views to gauge it's popularity since people will have watched different episodes at different times, but this seems very low compared to when Build Fighters TRY was airing

>>13849008
>What matters is the big numbers Daisuki/youtube pulls which grants them ad revenue, also lets not forget how the fucking gunplas are selling just as good.
Daisuki gets that ad revenue because they bought a contract with Bandai to stream it. On YouTube they're making fucking peanuts because their numbers aren't that good and YT ad revenue is almost nothing. It's for publicity and it's worth hiring a bunch of fansubbers who would do it anyway to make the west feel like they aren't cut off. Ads mean almost nothing. Gunpla also has little to do with it, those numbers barely change here.

>FUCKING MAL?
You have to be trolling if you think the website that supports this show the most having shit viewing numbers (as in amount, not opinion fuckface) means nothing then I don't know what to say. Neither Daisuki, YouTube or MAL (or any of your "sources" if you can call them that) support your claims that IBO is popular here in the west.

>>13849028
TV Ratings don't mean shit anymore anon~

>>13849018
That's a common thing in anime. Any anime. One anime I remember that wasn't all about blatant exposition is G-reco. And, remember, casuals hated it. It was too difficult to understand.

>>13849030
That's YouTube, how I'm guessing most non japs watch it (other then Daisuke/CR)

>>13849010
You mean exactly like he's been told by looking how many people talk about the show?

http://myanimelist.net/anime/31251/Mobile_Suit_Gundam__Iron-Blooded_Orphans/forum
http://myanimelist.net/anime/22729/AldnoahZero/forum

This isn't like a tiny difference. This is at a low estimate of 500 post average for AZ to a high estimate around 100 posts average fro IBO.

>>13849018
But MC kills people! He kills people! Without remorse! And kids get hit it's gritty and has impact!

>>13849028
Could you make a pretty collage of this anon?

>>13849034
>He kills people!
Not anymore.

>>13849021
>trying this hard

Sure buddy what ever makes you happy in your chicanery world. You really have nothing to back up your claims other than using MAL which is laughable

>>13849037
Desperate

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>Kudelia is so boring
>I wish I was on Earth already
>I want to go back home and eat Cookie and Cracker

>>13849039
> I want to go back home and eat Cookie and Cracker
I feel you, Biscuit.

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>Oh, hey, make this weird and unknown guy board our ship and drop his stuff on our hangar
>turns out he is one of the bad guys
>Oh, crap!!!1111!!!

I hope he is unloading chemical weapons and planning to kill all of them, because they can't be THIS fucking dumb and the writing be THIS fucking shit.

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Biscuit's face is a clear
>Get the fuck out of here, nobody will believe you.

>>13849045
Anon, do you honestly think something will go not in Tekkadan's favor?

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>>13844688
>>13844886
Gundam is just a toy commercial guys.

>>13849041
I feel you
I feel you deeply
Your feeling I can feel deeply

(cookie, cracker and atra will never have a lesbian orgy while waiting for your dick)

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>>13849039

>>13849031
I'm not sure if it's the nature of the japanese language or anime directors not caring about being a little subtle, but spelling out emotions and themes just cheapens the work overall.

>>13849049
I hope it will, because they deserve it.
They let Pigman live, leaving trail after trail behind their path, not to mention a big source of info on their tactics and everything, Hitler, to their biggest enemy. And nothing fucking happened.
And now it is the second time they get cargo without even checking what they are fucking shipping. Talk about crazy shit, as if the first trap wasn't enough.

>>13849025
>>staff is so lazy and uninterested in your character they prefer to pan over the mechas
>>they don't even bother to animate the workers
>>13849027
Nobody cares about Ein anyway

>>13849057
It's the second. When shows aren't made for kids, or at least when they aren't pretending kids are retarded, they largely avoid this. It is still obvious in other ways so kids don't miss it but some directors seriously do not understand children.

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If you say so.

>>13849067
That's Mika's entire dialogue for this episode summarized.
>Kudelia is amazing.
>It's Chocolate Man.
>Kudelia is great, btw.

>>13849067
But she was so amazing saying the whole thing was a trap (wait how does she know that? she only spent a minute around the workers) and then said she doesn't know anything!

>>13849037
Everything youre basing IBO's popularity on is all based on the initial hype

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Thanks for pointing that out, we didn't notice the 23 times he said that himself.

>>13849057
>>13849063
It would be funny if it turns out the reason for IBO's low viewership is because it's too unsubtle, even for the casual crowd.

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Fucking useless.

So polygamy end confirmed? I'm okay with that.

Why don't Atra and Kudelia just have sex already?

Literally just everyone talking about how great Kudelia is: the episode.

Why does Okada keep getting work?

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>IBO is popular in the west

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>>13849007
enchance

>>13849162
>>13849007
>they copy-pasted the same two Graze all over the screen

HOLY SHIT

>>13849007
>>13849162
Grazes is the same

>>13849157
Reminder that ENG subs are half for HK and Malaysia. I don't know hoe many but I wouldn't be surprised if it was around 65,000, kek.

>>13849007
How do they keep getting away with this? It should be illegal.

>>13849152
Writers usually don't get the blame because usually they're not part of the decision making.

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>>13849157
>But anon the likes bar keeps getting better, the episodes are improving.

There really is fuck all to talk about

>>13849243
man fumita- oh wait ;__;

>>13849250
man that mecha figh- oh wait ;__;

It's funny how even in the 80s they could put in a fight in nearly every single episode of Zeta Gundam to shill out their shitty old bad 80s gunpla but now in 2016 IBO's incredible kits and designs literally sit in the hangars while we get episode after episode of some shitters we don't care about telling us instead of showing us.

>>13849253
man that bit where mika- oh wait ;__;

My favorite part was when Mika got all serious and they were about to launch into action against the massive Arianrhod fleet but then they stopped and floated through the hundred copypasted Grazes. It's like the IBO staff are doing it on purpose.

>>13849260
man that bit an mobile suit- oh wait ;__;

>>13849265
man that character interaction between Tekada- oh wait ;__;

>>13849269
man that character development and not just a leap to a different sta- oh wait ;__;

>>13849269
man the masked rival is so coo- oh wait ;__;

Solid episode. I hope they get a season 2 and finish this strong.

>>13849274
Man that explanation behind Mika and Orgas frien- oh wait ;__;

>>13849290
man that subtle expositio- oh wait ;__;

>>13849290
man despite how kudelia came across early on shes really grow on m- oh wait ;__;

>>13849294

To be fair she's actually growing as a character, it just took so fucking long everyone has lost all good faith by now.

That's basically IBO in a nutshell, everything takes too fucking long.

>>13849259

I don't mind. Not every episode needs to be a fight or else it loses meaning. That was the problem with Zeta, too many fights that led to nowhere.

>>13849297
She hasn't as much grown as morphed after one scene

>>13849263

seriously it's like they just slapped us in the dick

>>13849259
I kinda get what the producers are trying to do, robots aren't as cool as they used to to kids, so they focus on relationships, camaraderie and fighting for independence. They also updated the politics to our day while still keeping the inessential Gundam tropes. All in hope that it will get kids invested.

>>13849294
man the show started out pretty slow but at least its gotten fairly entertaining now that that the ridiculous over the top melodrama that everyone was expecting has kicked i- oh wait ;__;

>>13849303

No she grown. She was cuddled for so long by Fumitan and was ignorant to the outside world. It finally registered her the reality she is living when she admitted to being a spy and her dying in her arms.

That was the catalyst for growth.

>>13849311
Growing is a process, you see it happen over time. Kudelia just flipped a switch and is now different.