Whose dumb fucking idea was to name him Schwarz Bruder ?

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>>13778054
Dude, their fucking Japs. No one ever said that anime writers were good at what they do.

Also, the name of the Neo-Germany fighter is one of the least of G Gundam's problems.

>>13778054
The same people who thought having a God Gundam, Devil Gundam and a Gundam the size of a colony that's shaped like Japan was a good idea

>calling anything dumb when you're dumb yourself

>>13778054
What's wrong with that name?

>>13778183
It translates to "Black Brothers" which doesn't work because Kyoji isn't black.

>>13778183
It literally gives the twist away 15 episodes in

>>13778202
>>13778196
no one gives a shit you muslim nerds

>>13778215
Wait you don't learn german or french as a secondary language in high school ?
>americlaps

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>>13778220
Nah man, I took Japanese

>>13778054
His mother's? There was already a German ninja named Schwartz Bruder.

>>13778220
>assuming everyone who banters you is american
why are euros so cucked lmao

>>13778224
Even then
>bruder
>brother
I mean come on

>>13778247
To me, it was just a name, so I didn't think anything of it. I was in middle school, watching it on toonami. You think I was gonna ponder the meaning of names? I was in it for the glowing hands.

>>13778196

You ever thought that perhaps "black" might be a stand-in for "shadow" instead, because it's how it's depicted in animation and images, a dark silhouette of a person, because this is what Schwarz is to the original Kyouji, unable to take a front and made as a last-ditch of the original, and therefore casually regarded as less substantial and thus a "shadow of his former self", and that he usual stays in the background, aka the shadows, and that he shadows Domon's actions several times throughout the show, watching from the shadows until he appears from nowhere, all of which are like how feudal spies/ninja/shinobi are commonly referred to as being in the shadows, the shadows to their lord, one with the shadow, etc. etc. e-fucking-tc.?

Did you fucking consider this fucking point of fucking view?

>>13778288
Woah... deep

>>13778288
You idiot.

If they really wanted to go with the "shadow" reference, Kyoji would've named himself Schatten Bruder or Dunkel Bruder.

>>13778336

>Schatten
I said they wanted to use a STAND-IN, not call it out straight. Fingers flying across the keyboard faster than you can read my post?

>Dunkel
No, not really. "Black" is as legitimate a sideways reference to Schwarz's role as is "Dark". If you were there when there was a thread detailing Imagawa's thought processes on the production of G Gundam, it would have been clear that they're running a casual production. A simple "hm this seems out of place" is enough for them. This isn't some Evangelion-level triple-layer ref. sandwich infinity loop.

Like >>13778233, you would have a more legitimate position calling it out that there was a German contestant actually named Schwarz Bruder.

Char Clones aren't exactly known for their great names.

Mister Bushido, Full Frontal, Captain fucking Mask, come on.

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>>13778665
>Char clone
>Kyoji
Nigga you ain't never watched Speed Racer?

>>13778054
Hey, don't you dis the Bruder clan! They've been German Ninjas for centuries now and will use their ninja powers on your ass.

How did Kyouji know German ninjutsu?

>>13778202

The audience was intended to be Japanese kids to teens, most of whom will never know a word of German and if they're learning a second language at all (many will be too young to have started doing so in a school) will be learning something like Chinese or English. The fact that an adult European or whatever you are knows what it means has no bearing on things because no-one making it cares whether you know it or not. Especially nearly 25 years after it was made in the first place.

>>13778690

How do American kids know Asian martial arts? That's how.

>>13778054
>not questioning why Germany would let a ninja-themed gundam represent their country and nobody would question their supposed national-hero's identity in the first place

>>13778722
A ninja-themed Gundam had been representing them for years, possibly decades. Kyoji just stole that guy's identity.

>>13778743
that's the point, why?

windmill and that mexican burrito gundam at least make sense because it actually represents their country somewhat, but a ninja for Germany?

>>13778714
So Kyouji trained in German ninjutsu, and then just happened to transfer his conscience to a German ninja who's name was literally bad German for "Black Brother?"

>>13778757
A better question is why some random german guy would call himself "Schwarz Bruder".

>>13778677

Schwarz Bruder is more a Char clone than Ulube.

>>13778761
It make sense to original audience because back in the days people outside of Japan aren't its main audience and even if the locals are skeptical they probably won't bother to check the name for accuracy because going to the library is a lot of work.

As someone who is Asian and watched G back when I was 7-8, as long as the name sounded foreign enough to me it made sense, you could call the ruskie Vlad Vodka and nobody would back an eyelid.

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>>13778772
He has literally no makings of a Char aside from the mask.
>at no point acts as the antagonist
>acts as protagonist's mentor instead of rival
>isn't a pedophile or otherwise insane Harry was a Quattro
>closest he gets to obsession is familial protection (muh brother as opposed to muh underage newtype girls)
>isn't compulsive, always has some master plan
>tragic character

>>13778690
>>13778758
More likely, when the DG Cells of his consciousness revived the body of Schwarz Bruder, he gained Schwarz's memories, which allowed him to act in the same way he would. And since he was clearly doing well, no one from Neo Germany would really question the oddities.

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>>13778235
>why are euros so cucked lmao

>>13778220
>taking irrelevant languages

>>13778054

The Filipino dub called him Tubartz Bruder. I think you take Schwartz and fucking love it.

>>13778054
His parents, Mr and Mrs Bruder
>>13778202
FUN FACT:
"Darth Vader" actually means "Dark Father"
But unlike Star Wars, the twist about Schwarz is that he *isn't* Domon's brother, he's just had his personality and appearance rewritten as a *copy* of Kyoji.

>>13779586
His Gundam's name is also part of the fix, though if you watched the dub, you miss that part.

In the Japanese it was Gundam Spiegel (Mirror)

Shadow just more tried to play to the ninja meaning, but wound up losing that extra element in the process.

>>13779586
>"Darth Vader" actually means "Dark Father"
Maybe in Sith, Lucas just made that shit up after the fact. "Dark" is "Dunkel" and "Father" is "Fater." Does German even have any hard "rth" sounds?

>>13779586
>"Darth Vader" actually means "Dark Father"
sick meme myth my senpai

>>13779666
Vader means Father in Dutch. Not every reference is in Nazispeak.

>>13779678
The myth was that it's "Dark Father" in German. And that brings us to how "dark" in Dutch is actually "donkel," not "darth."

Also Dutch isn't a language, it's just bootleg Deutsch.

>>13779673
It isn't a myth, dumbass. Darth Vader undeniably means Dark Father. They just didn't intend for him to be luke's father until the next movie.

>>13779688
>The myth was that it's "Dark Father" in German.
I didn't say anything about German, though. You're acting like you're disproving something I said, but you're full of shit. I know it wasn't German. I was trying to think of which northwestern european tongue it was, but decided to neither guess nor google it, and you just got german-on-the-brain from the Schwarz Bruder thing and made yourself look like a fucktard.

>>13779695
>It isn't a myth, dumbass. Darth Vader undeniably means Dark Father.
In what language?

>>13779705
>And that brings us to how "dark" in Dutch is actually "donkel," not "darth."

>>13779706
Dutch.

>>13779727
>Donkel Vader

>>13779729
Who gives a fuck? Point is "Vader" is a Dutch word.

>>13779595
>shadow of Domon's brother
I don't see the problem here, other than dumbing down the name for Murrican kids.

>>13779736
>FUN FACT:
>"Darth Vader" actually means "Dark Father"

>>13779740
Darth is a portmanteau of dark and death, so it still holds up.

>>13779742
>Darth is a portmanteau of dark and death, so it still holds up.
In Dutch, right?

>>13779711
I didn't say "dutch" either, fuckass, that's the other anon.
Just google "darth vader means dark father" and you'll see multiple references to the quote originating from George Lucas. I could not possibly give less of a fuck if the two words are not from the same language, nor what specific languages they are. George Lucas said that the name means "Dark Father" so you can eat a dick.

>>13779747
I'm not the one who claimed darth was a dutch word.

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>>13779749
>Just google "darth vader means dark father" and you'll see multiple references to the quote originating from George Lucas.
Literally every link says otherwise
>"'Darth' is a variation of dark. And 'Vader' is a variation of father. So it's basically Dark Father. All the names have history, but sometimes I make mistakes -- Luke was originally going to be called Luke Starkiller, but then I realized that wasn't appropriate for the character. It was appropriate for Anakin, but not his son. I said, 'Wait, we can't weigh this down too much -- he's the one that redeems him.'"
He made it up, dude.

>>13779766
>"'Darth' is a variation of dark. And 'Vader' is a variation of father.
Did you even read what you greentexted?
He literally says it in YOUR post.
Keep arguing, though, this is amusing.

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>>13779771
>>13779678
>>13779705
>>13779749

>>13779752
No one has, genius, aside from the butthurt German in the thread.

>>13779784
>butthurt German
That's redundant.

>>13779784
This, basically.
Lucas said that Darth comes from "dark" and Vader comes from "father" (in dutch, apparently) and one guy is crying that they're not both from the same language as if that somehow overrules Lucas.

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Whose Dumb Idea was it to name reX Racer Racer X.

>>13778054
They named Ulube after the worst Star Trek character of all time, too.

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>>13779784
>>13779791
Samefag
Also
>can't into English
>calling others German

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>>13779806
Nice try, Hitler.

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>>13779806
hurrrrrrrr

>>13779805
>>13779805
Wait...what?
How is Ulube named after Wesley Crusher?
Is this a lube joke?
Because I heard that him and Bud Bundy were an item.

>>13779825
>/b/
>firefox
>linux
Holy shit anon, what the fuck are you doing?

>>13779814
>>13779825
Well, you showed me. I guess there's more than one person retarded enough to believe that George Lucas' barely functioning mind counts as a language.

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>>13779834
I thought what I'd do was pretend I was one of those Bionicles.

>>13779843
Just one person too retarded to read English, apparently.

>>13778336
I thought the name Schwartz Bruder came from the guy that Kyoji made into his double? That was that guy's name and the double just kept on using it.

>>13779856
No, there's at least two, see my assertion here >>13779806

>>13779843
>more than one person retarded
Too true.
Look at this post:
>>13779586
and tell me where you see "german" "dutch" or "a language".
Screencap it, circle it in red, and include plenty of insults in your reply.

>>13779873
It is. Schwarz Bruder was the actual Gundam Fighter for Neo-Germany. He got overwritten and made into a copy of Kyoji, but still entered the Gundam Fight under his original name. It is also true, however, that the writers thought this name was a clever pun considering Schwarz was a shade of Domon's brother.

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>>13779885
>I don't understand how English works well enough to intentionally imply things
>>It literally gives the twist away 15 episodes in
This post was referring to the fact that anyone would know Kyouji's true identity if they knew that "Schwartz Bruder" was poor German for "Black Brother."
>"Darth Vader" actually means "Dark Father"
Now, anyone with at least one tenth of a brain would know that you could only spoil something with a phrase if it has literally any meaning outside of your own stupid fucking head. Because Lucas made up "Darth Vader," then yes, it's true, it does by technicality mean "Dark Father." Well, actually, it doesn't. What it means is that Lucas switched around some letters and thought he had a cool name, like Quattro Vagina. It doesn't actually mean "Dark Father" in any language living or dead, which is why literally every search result will tell you the same thing.
To reiterate: "Darth Vader" is a name that Lucas made up, and as such it couldn't have spoiled the movie, because it's not a translation of anything and as a result doesn't mean anything. Therefore, because nobody would be stupid enough to post something so ridiculously off-topic, you were implying that "Darth Vader" meant "Dark Father," possibly in some foreign language, which is also a popular myth that only stupid people believe.

>>13779873

You're correct. The original Schwarz was killed and new one was basically the reanimated corpse made with DG cells and looks like Kyoji.

>>13779927
>Now, anyone with at least one tenth of a brain would know that you could only spoil something with a phrase if it has literally any meaning outside of your own stupid fucking head
Just knowing "vader" was enough, really. Especially with Owen and Beru's comments about Luke's father.

I actually laughed out loud when I heard that Lucas was now claiming that the idea for Vader to be Luke's father came after the original Star Wars. He contradicts himself a lot, actually. For instance, he always said that he wrote a trilogy and presented it to the studio but they gave him such a long list of things that needed to be changed about it that he wrote a set of sequels to it rather than change what he had written. That's why the original Star Wars suddenly became "Episode IV: A New Hope" which was not seen in the original theatrical reels. He said that he had no idea why fans loved Boba Fett so much, since he was a nobody who just happened to be present when Vader captured Han Solo. And then when George makes what he claimed at the time to be his original story that he wrote before what we now call "the original trilogy" Boba Fett is now the one unmodified clone of the super-soldier selected to be the genetic template for an entire army that brought the empire to power. That's a pretty hefty "nobody". Then there's Obi Wan's "Was I any different when you taught me?" to Yoda, being contradicted by Obi Wan being Qui Gon's apprentice (unless you assume that Obi Wan was comparing late-teen Luke to himself as an eight-year-old). Never mind the fact that his original story "The Star Wars" is easily available if you want to read it (there was even a Dark Horse comic series) and bears almost no resemblance to the prequel trilogy.

>>13778196
Der Bruder and die Brüder are two different words.

>>13778220
>Wait you don't learn german or french as a secondary language in high school ?

If i wanted to learn a dead language then I would take Latin, at least that has some use.

>>13778054

Holy shit, I just realized now it's Black Brother.

I think in my subtitles it was "Brauer" or something like that actually

>>13778288

Spiegel Gundam is translated as Mirror Gundam though. Not shadow gundam or whatever stupid name they came up with in the dub

>>13778809

Yeah, we all know Master Asia is Char without a mask. Well,you could say he wears a symbolic mask or some shit. It's deep

>>13778084
nice racism, cunt fag

>>13780551
Nice asspain. Need some Preparation H?

>>13779295
>Tubartz

Never ceases to make me laugh.

>>13778089
Not shaped like Japan it was Japan, Devil Gundam took it over.

I suddenly remember having this exact thread with this exact OP image like a year or two ago.

>>13778220
They actually moved the german and french classes over to our carrier center that was like 5 hours away It was for the whole county. So it was Latin or Spanish for us.

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>>13778665
Rau Le Cruset sounds cool though

>>13779804
fucc u its clever
rex racer
racer x
racer rex
speeds older brother rex who ran away from home years ago

>>13779295
Flip dub also translated Master Asia's "Undefeated of the East" as "Oriental Invincible".

>>13780524

And Schwarz Bruder is a mirror image of Kyoji Kasshu.

I'll just repeat what I said previously, the whole thing with Schwarz is a bunch of Lv.1 foreshadowing that is meant to reward people of that time who had basic knowledge of German at that time, and little else other than the director liking it. Anime/manga in general has had no qualms in borrowing foreign terms because they like the way it sounds, this is no different.

Seriously, /m/, these foreshadowing traits are basic as fuck, I ain't saying they're good or bad but these side-glance connections are the most basic you can get in storytelling, especially in G where the entire thing is a homage to wuxia movies and its physical predecessor, chinese street stageshows, where these kinds of naming and over-the-top action is common as fuck. The greater issue here is that there was an actual German called Schwarz Bruder; either that, or copy-Kyoji being the walking plot hook that he is, hacked the Neo-German fighter database or any other dozens of easily usable reason.

What is wrong with /m/ in this thread?

>>13785409
>The greater issue here is that there was an actual German called Schwarz Bruder
Obviously he was somebody else's own Racer X before he died.

>>13780783
It wasn't japan, japan's silhouette is still visible in shots of earth, and tokyo(shinjuku) and kyoto are still on earth as we have seen in early episodes

>>13778202
Except it doesn't. The show intentionally acts like the twist is gonna be Kyoji only to have the real reveal be a robot.

>>13778054
Would you much rather him be called Shorts Boner?

>>13779806
Holy shit is the Spic poster German? No wonder he has no sense of humor.

>>13779831
No, he's named after O'Brien's wife, because she was Imagawa's favorite Star Trek character.

BRB, GOING TO BURN MY GIANT ROBO DVDS

>>13787642
to be fair DS9 was just starting around then I think, so she was only the forgettable character from TNG and hadn't leveled up to atomic bitch yet

>>13778722

Its a WWI themed Gundam piloted by a Weeaboo

>>13785384

I liked Oriental Invincible shit was cash as fuck.

>>13778722
What, you've never heard of German Ninjas?
OF COURSE NOT.
THEY'RE *THAT* SNEAKY.

>>13787748
german ninjas are the sneakyest because you can nazi them

>>13778084
pg when?