Gundam IBO (Iron Blooded Orphans)

Tell me about Char, why does he wear that mask?

Baneposting aside, Fumitan is kill?

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Biscuit, I...

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>>13759774
I....

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>>13759771
>Baneposting aside, Fumitan is kill?
She didn't spy so good.

>>13759777
WAKE ME UP INSIDE

>>13759777
JUST

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>>13759774
>>13759777

Have we touched the crazy newtype girl and superweapon area so far?
We already got peace princess, support unit and currently Char covered, but I'm sure we're still missing more.

>>13759754

his hair is so fucking ridiculous

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>>13759801

Atra is cuter with smaller eyes.
Prove me wrong.

>>13759803
Nope, but there is a Shrike Team that is somehow not dead yet.

>>13759803
That new white haired girl from the OP might be one.

UNDERWATER MS WHEN

I'm sad that mika didn't got the chance to kill the guys who beat atra
I hope he kiss her next episode

I MUST ASK THE MASKED MAN

I think they were asking for the baneposting, I think they know at this point.

So even after being discovered, fumitan decided to not betray kudelia
I gotta say, it's a lot of loyalty for a hired gun

>>13759803
The cyber newtype girl will probably be some chick with the AV system possibly the white hair girl.

As for the superweapon they will probably dig up some calamity war relic or possibly the gundam frames will have some superhax ability that can only be brough out by AV users which leads to back to white hair girl possibly and Mika to counter it or use it first.

>>13759771
No, she'll likely pop up to prevent an assassination attempt or take the bullet.

Might get brain washed or just completely fuck off too.

>>13759754
this is a worse mask than even those underpants thats guy wore on his face in victory

>Mikazuki not murdering everyone in that building
Wasted potential.

>>13759878
No evidence she was Jewish

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>>13759777
>>13759815
This has to be intentional...

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>>13759754
This was so soap opera tier episode so far.

And they are not even trying. Preview definitely looked like Fumitan took the bullet.

RIP Fumitan.
Only character which was interesting enough in my cfnm fantasies.

>>13759912
>This was so soap opera tier episode so far.
That's Okada's forte for you

>>13759852
idk i'm pretty sure just walking off leaving kudelia behind with the buzzard man is close enough to betrayal.

>>13759912
At least she won't die at the end of the show like the other anons thought. That's somewhat unexpected.

Anyone else notice his mask has eye slots that open and close?

>>13759754
That Navona dude from labor union must be henchmen of butt naked steam batth consumer aka GN.

And biscuit's elder brother's job was to ensure plan B- get leader arrested to legitemize the revolution.

>>13759925
I was confused by that, doesn't seen like he can see with the slots closed, why add that?

>>13759928
Tactical protection for eyes and to avoid retina scanners in streets.

>>13759920
Show ended even it could began. She is going to die after negative number kicked in from ep1.

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What is Char's plan? cause I cam't even figure out a general outline

He said something about reforms early but what exactly does he mean? Reform it to what state? He said something about Kudelia as well but then let her run away when he had her. Plus these were both said before the mask was put on so could be straight up lies

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he's going to job isnt he? fuck this show ;__;

I really need to catch up on this show. I'm stuck on episode 7 and can't find the motivation to keep going...

Might have to binge watch this in one go when it's complete.

>>13759945
It's Code Geass level of mecha-soap fun.

>>13759948
No.

>>13759945
Honestly it get harder to watch as I go through. i could barely get through this episode.

Not just because of the dumb plot points but the writing is just terrible.The melodrama isn't even dumb fun melodrama

>>13759952
>Implying melodrama is supposed to be fun.

>>13759952
>>13759945
Don't worry, you're far from alone there. I quit the show when they boarded the spaceship.

>>13759948
Coincidentally that's actually I watched Code Geass for the first time. I don't think I would've been able to sit through it week by week, at least the middle part.

>>13759959
*actually how

>>13759934
As it is from Earth to the Colonies to Mars to Jupiter wants to get rid of Gjallarhorn.

He knows as it is now a corrupt organization but he wants it cleaned. He intends to use Kudelia as a puppet like everyone else.

>>13759952
Why don't you just drop it already then? You're clearly not enjoying it

>>13759971
I'm over half way through now, I may as well finish

>Tomino fags constantly writing about the stupidity of IBO is a *very* ludicrous joke. Like Jeffrey Dahmer calling abortion murder.

>>13759966
>wants to get rid of Gjallarhorn.
hs he actually said that? Even implied?

>>13759908
obvious fan recolor

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>>13759939

>>13759976
oh yeah it must be the tomino fags right?
jesus how insecure can you be

>>13759980
*Sigh at reading comprehension*

McGillis doesn't want Gjallarhorn to go extinct but he wants to reform it getting rid of corruption.

As it is everybody hates Gjallarhorn.

>>13759996
Yes, them.

>>13759999
so will he form neo gallahorn?

>>13759999
>but he wants to reform it getting rid of corruption.
What does he mean by this? What state does he want it in? Reform can mean he changes it to many different things anon and so far it isn't clear how he wouldn't be able to do this from the position he had as a high ranking officer, son of one of the leaders

>>13759991
I refer it with a kitty head.

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there'll be some ms action next week r-right guys? ;__;

>>13760010
nope, only Kimaris launching at the end

17 is the action ep with Rebake's debut

>>13759890
>Wasted potential
Welcome to IBO

>>13760010

loli beating wasn't enough action for you?

I can't wait for an episode where Kuddles tries to explain to people she was never in support of armed uprisings only for them to mouth off about how the real Kudelia Aina Bernstein wouldn't be that kind of pacifist or some similarly jarring statement.

Kuddles has been overtaken by a meme, perpetuated by a fat guy who loves taking saunas.

>>13760004
As it is Gjallarhorn central's control of the branches has degraded to both corruption and incompetence as we see in this episode.

He wants a stronger centralized control of all Gjallarhorn that they won't be a bunch of fuck ups pissing off the majority of humanity. And he needs Kudelia to tell the rest of humanity to calm the fuck down as Gjallarhorn still has its uses.

>>13760032
>incompetence as we see in this episode.
When they mistook Atra? That's just bad writing

>He wants a stronger centralized control of all Gjallarhorn
back this up please

Also how will his plan here b more effected than being an important member of the group with connections and power?

IBO is already worse than Try, AGE and Destiny at the halfway mark

>>13760038
In the episode where they meet the loli sister McGillis and Galileo talk of the current state of Gjallarhorn and how they'd change it.
https://youtu.be/z-SgY7jJhVI?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx-mZk_wLZgc1FcJU-Skw2Zm&t=1013

So far my only complain is how they thought Kudelia was Atra, other then that this is the best new gundam in many years.

Does anyone have a reasonable explanation for the soldiers not knowing Kudelia's face?
Might as well take the first girl from the side of a street and call it a day.

>>13760073
>Might as well take the first girl from the side of a street and call it a day.
I wonder about it too.

>>13760065
>other then that this is the best new gundam in many years.
I love this meme

>>13760073
It's funny that such an organization doesn't have a photo of Kudelia.

>>13760060
I can't watch that but I'll take your word

Other questions still stand as does my point early that by putting on the mask we have no idea what he has lied about like he clearly has done to Garma's sister

>>13760075
It says a lot about Savarin's dedication to the cause that he'd rather believe in a lie.

>>13760010
Nope, Rebake is in a tuning mode and Barbatos is just ready for a launching.

>>13760083
He put on a mask, because Gjallahorn wasn't allowed to step into the colony, because of the revolt.

>>13760076

It isn't a meme.

>>13760083
everyone seen him with the loli and now mcgillis is a registered sex offender, the mask is just a disguise

>>13760090
>Gjallahorn wasn't allowed to step into the colony
Two of them were beating up Atra

Plus apparently photos just exist so he has no need for the whole cosplay. Even if he did just get a fake ID

>>13760092
yeah because to be a meme there would need to be people that share the same sentiment

>>13760076
Not as much as I love the whole "All new gundam shows are shit, except g-reco because of muh-old-school-animation"-meme.

Is it just me or have the "muh old school animation"-people gotten even more obnoxious after G-reco turned out to be shit in spite of how much hand drawn animation it contained?

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>Hime, you are STILL too stupid.
I can't believe they managed to make a character worse than Shakti.

>>13760095
Gjallarhorn colony branch don't want any Seven Stars to show up due to politics.

McGillis needed a disguise while Atra didn't need anything.

>>13760095
>Two of them were beating up Atra
That was colony Gjallahorn and not super higher ups from Seven Stars families.

>>13760105
>shakti's decisions didn't make sense from her point of view
I love this meme.

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>>13760038
>When they mistook Atra? That's just bad writing

He knew it wasn't her.

>>13760110
>>13760113
>Gjallarhorn colony branch don't want any Seven Stars
Why? General mooks that do stupid things like beat up a little girl are fine but someone who might keep stuff organised is bad?

IBO is honestly one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, bar none, it’s themes of family and willingness to deal with really neat and sometimes violent realities of political conflicts is fascinating. But above all else, I really love the characters, the show is good in making you care deeply for these kids who are trying to carve out their right to exist in a shitty world. fuck tha haters

>>13760117
>He knew it wasn't her.
Who cares about him? We are talking about the soldiers from Titans.
And even Musashi's brother's idea was stupid. Everyone would have realized she was not the real Kudelia.
Hell, this wouldn't have stopped the Martian revolution one tiny fucking bit, because Kudelia just needed to step up and "Hi, guys, I'm fine".

IBO is bad only if you're waiting for seriousness, substance or credibility within the Gundam franchise, a franchise which has literally the lowest standards in all of these criterias and narratives since 40 fuckin years. So basically IBO is as bad as the previous series, despite what the moronic league of /m/ tells because of the lack of gratuitous MS battles and super made-in-two-weeks hidden prototype number 9142.

>>13760117
>>13760125
Having her if anything caused more issue as it spurred them on

His whole plan made no sense. What he should have done is sat her down and sent a picture of her in talks. Then they could go hey look we are good guys and want to work something out

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what about the mobile suits?

This is not a fucking gundam show, this is just some generic space anime with pictures of robots in hangars

Seriously, even G-reco had fights all the time

>>13760092

yeah but you're just visiting from /a/ so that makes sense, huh

this isn't a gundam show at all

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>>13760125
>Who cares about him? We are talking about the soldiers from Titans.

They didn't care either they just wanted anyone that was with Tekkadan to use as a scapegoat. It was doomed to failure because he was shitting his pants in panic mode and desperate. He was trying to buy time to talk down Gallahorn from suppressing the colony not stop the Martian Revolution. That was the point.

But go on. Keep watching a show you don't like.

>>13760143
hell i'd even take try's chicken howre you stock footage at this point

>>13760147

I been on /m/ for years kid, this is my honest sentiment.

>>13760143
I just want a decent Fumitan doujin.

>>13760148

He's just a strict utilitarian, he's weighing the life of one innocent against the lives of others in the uprising, it's especially offensive to most western people because most governments in the west are based on the idea of individual rights to the point where it's (at least ideally) better to let many guilty go free instead of an innocent be punished/killed

>>13760158

also I'm not saying this would be a normal sentiment in the east or anything either, just that most western thought is pretty far from this due to individual rights

>>13760148
>They didn't care either they just wanted anyone that was with Tekkadan to use as a scapegoat.
No, they don't. Soldiers from Gahjaron want the real Kudelia. Taking a fake one won't do them any good because she knows jack shit about Martian rebellion.
That is the point.

>He was trying to buy time to talk down Gallahorn from suppressing the colony not stop the Martian Revolution. That was the point.
And it didn't work for one second. Because the guys from the docks are with Tekkadan and Musashi's brother knew that.
And guess what? Tekkadan knows what face Kudelia has.
It was doomed to fail as soon as he thought about it.

>>13760158
>>13760164
I don't think anyone cares about his actions being offensive or what.
It is just that it is stupid and makes no sense.
Even if they killed Atra live on television with a guillotine, it wouldn't accomplishing anything, because the workers from the docks are with Tekkadan, Tekkadan knows what face and where Kudelia is.

>>13760117
No he didn't. He very much believed it was kudelia and was shocked at the reveal it wasn't, only then did he go crazy and make up the new plan.

>>13760158

It's not like anything in real world current events occurred where political prisoners accused of being something they obviously were not were just recently freed after years of being held captive and questioned about their secret efforts to undermine the foreign oppressive government they were living under at the time.

Nope. Nothing like that has happened at all.

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>I came here to protect you!
>But you are free to go run after the spy who works for the guys that are trying to kill you.

Fantastic. And people said Chronicle was incompetent.

>>13760176
At least I hope those oppressive government have photos of the political prisoners they were supposed to take.

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>>13760174

Delusion meet thy friend, denial...

>>13760190
What are you trying to prove with that image? That is after he tells him and then suddenly crazy rant out of no where. He is normal enough up till then and shows surprise when told only going crazy after

>>13760121
Agree with that. IBO brings back a superficial (but at least existing) sense of political awareness into Gundam by putting a more concrete social matter at the center of the conflict, instead of all the genocide crap, super-evolved and superior race stuff the limp IP was all about since decades. It doesn't work that aspect well, but it tries to incorporate more actual-world-grounded elements and less personalized struggles. The machines are also relatively unspectacular in power compared to recent serie's MS, for now. In a sense it's a more Dougramesque Gundam with a soap-opera feel, a flawed but different ride for a stoned, automatic and tired franchise. The writing is a often weak and the ending could be awful, but this time you DO have all the good ingredients on the table and the sincere will to tell a story which is not just an UC rehash.

>>13760198

That wasn't out of nowhere. He'd been acting shady and freaked out a couple of times before that knowing what was on the line as far as the consequences for the colony.

>>13760222
Acting shady is not the same as having a huge freak out where his face goes all weird. Also the reason for acting shady was he was tricking them so they got captured. He very much did show surprise at and acted differently that he was before in that scene, his whole face morphed and how he was talking changed

He did believe Atra was Kudelia

>>13760215

I pretty much agree with this. Even if the show is basic anime melodrama, at the very least they're setting up the conflict and the stakes before just throwing up a bunch of random giant robot shootouts every week out of nowhere.

>>13760239

Delusion, meet thy friend, denial.

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>>13760215
Making the argument that at least IBO tries doesn't really stand when you watch the show and see how little effort is put in. Stuff like the Mar's independence stuff isn't well thought out and is very basic background information. Never mind how lazily it will introduce whole new plot elements

>>13759771
Next episode has her name as a title, you can bet your ass she will die then.

>>13759836
With how badass she was this week, taking a beating like a motherfucking MI6 agent, she deserves some Mika love she so craves.

AGE has been surpassed

>>13759852
Maybe she's wondering why a masked guy would go to such lengths and not follow through.

>People shitting on this show like crazy
>Dat effective use of dramatic irony to ratchet up the narrative's tension
>Not having to rely on Tomino-isms for pseudo-depth

>>13759780
I like that the Youtube video of this with the highest views is entitled, "Lady Une is Fucking Crazy."

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>>13760215
>IBO brings back a superficial (but at least existing) sense of political awareness into Gundam by putting a more concrete social matter at the center of the conflict,
> instead of all the genocide crap, super-evolved and superior race stuff the limp IP was all about since decades
>t it tries to incorporate more actual-world-grounded elements and less personalized struggles
It is not like that is exactly what Tomino already did with Turn A and G-Reco.

>>13760027
inb4 Atra sympathizes with the rebels and becomes their Kudelia. She becomes...Punished Kudelia.

>>13760298

Except G-Reco is even worse. Turn A was great but you need previous gundam history to fully immerse yourself into the story.

>>13760298
>Political. Tomino.
>Muh switch sides every week because luv'.

>>13760298
00S1 tried it, at least on the surface. It ended up being more about Celestial Being's overall arc of learning UNDERSTANDING, which I assume would have then passed through to the rest of the world in S2 if it hadn't been for gunota whining.

Also, I read one analysis of G-Reco as a commentary on the resurgence of contemporary Japanese right wing calls to re-arm, but the truth is that whatever grounded examination of the dynamics of war-time politics there might have been was lost in the gobbledy gook that was Tomino's world-building (which is a shame because he's basically the guy who invented it vis a vis anime).

>>13760298
Post-2000 Tomino is all about his idealized vision of being young and the main character's freedom to leave, come back and leave again in the middle of war according to his only feelings. There is absolutely no sense of political weight or era determinism in these shows.

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>>13760291
>IBO
>Any semblance of Tension

For something to be tense, people would have to actually give a shit.

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Mcgillis's retarded mask isnt a permanent thing is it?

>>13760324
>Post-2000
>happens on a near-constant basis in Victory
I agree with you but come on, man.

>>13760329
This has to be the most obvious disguise since Quattro but at least that shit was self aware.

>>13760324
>Post-2000 Tomino is all about his idealized vision of being young and the main character's freedom to leave, come back and leave again in the middle of war according to his only feelings.
>What is Victory

>>13760327
I've yet to be convinced that the people who hate IBO aren't 90% salty Grektfags.

>>13760351
Since /m/ hated their show and bashed it to oblivion any chance they can get, they will do the same to IBO. I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic.

>>13760324
>. There is absolutely no sense of political weight or era determinism in these shows.
Sure. Let's completely ignore Mask's revanchism, Towasanga and Venus Globe migration flux, the relevance of religion one of the few times, if not the only one, a Gundam show talked about the issue, Amerian government covering their desire to invade other territories using political issues.
It is not like this is happening IRL too.

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>>13760351
Yeah it has nothing to do with the fact that this show is boring shit.

That isn't it at all.

I'm enjoying IBO and I enjoyed G Reco.I don't see why /m/ thinks you can enjoy one and not the other.Both shows had issues but still managed to be decent.This is the first time in a long time that I was able to enjoy two consecutive Gundam series in a row.

>>13760403
Cause there is little to really talk about or troll people with IBO so it just goes back to doing it for greco

>>13760396
Well it's pretty obvious that you're calling everything that doesn't conform to your autistic standards shit after that one show that did conform to your autistic standards, G-Reco, was shit and got clearly labeled as such.

This hipster "I hate any and all 3DCG" garbage is really the worst thing shitting up /m/ over the time I've been here.

>>13760411

Pretty much there really isn't any good bait material to really use from IBO.

>>13760359
The main character is unrelated to all that landscape. Tomino, putting his finger in the air and shouting "Political Issue" without an intention to include this in the narratives instead of decorate surroundings, is an old trick from an old man.

>>13760411
The only real problem I have with IBO is that the writers are playing things to safe.It's a good show(slow paced)but could have been great if the writers took more risk.

>>13760403
The thing about G-Reco is that it was supposed to be this really great show with next to no CGI which clicked perfectly with the hipster "CGI is shit" that's taken hold in both movies and anime. Then when the show aired and turned out to have a mess of a plot, absolutely horrible dialogue and really uninteresting designs that people bashed it for, the hipsters that thought of it almost like the second coming just went nuts.

We see them in this thread bashing IBO because they think that the same people who based G-Reco for all it's flaws are going to like IBO.

>muh not enuf robot battliz in zat shew.
>mah plastic mudels not good lul.
>so boring. luv' setsuna.

>>13760418
>Bellri and Aida's way of thinking is heavily if not mostly based on what their parents think
>they start to doubt the actions of their faction early in the show and almost if not all the political commentary comes from their thoughts on the events
>their development is all about questioning the root of their actions and gaining a new perspective on the events, that was hidden from them for all their life because SU-Cordism doesn't allow communication between Earth and space. Tomino himself said he thinks kids need to have a neutral education from their parent and must expand their interactions or won't grow up fine.
>main characters unrelated to all that landscape

>>13760449
Bellri changes his factions/opinions like you change your wears every morning. He isn't concerned by any political cause except the "muh-derstanding life" at the core of each Tomino babble-babble since 1985.

>>13760480
>Bellri changes his factions/opinions like you change your wears every morning.
Did you even watch the anime?
Among the other things Bellri didn't go back because he knew the Army was doing something bad and he wanted to report to his mom about that and the Amerians.

> He isn't concerned by any political cause
The whole point of the travel was to be able to gain a just political cause.

>>13760396
>Using a TG reaction
So you're not just salty, you're also an asshole.

>>13760444
>setsuna
jihad-kun, heero and sven would make better protagonists than mika.

>>13760298
>light-skinned Guin
Ruined the whole fucking image.

>>13760556

Setsuna a good protagonist? Pass me what you are smoking.

>>13760560
It is almost as dark as La Gu though.

>>13760576
That's oly add the problem.

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whens this bitch going to get the shit kicked out of her? atra did deserve the beating that was actually meant for worst girl

>>13760569
I don't know where did you get that assumption, but better =/= good, you should know this already.
And passable is better than dull.

>>13760444
>>mah plastic mudels not good lul.
That's actually one of the only good things about this show.

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this sluts going to get norba killed

>>13760331
Only at the start.

>>13760617
>Now I really wanna have kids, Norba would be such a good dad~

>>13760600

He isn't even passable, he has less of a personality that fucking MIka and that is saying something.

>>13760617
So when is the big reveal coming that he's actually a very boyish girl instead of a girlish boy?

>>13760599

This meme is annoying, what has Kudelia done to warrant such a beating? She is a noble girl.

>>13760613
Yeah, and they definitely learned from HGBF stickerfests and HG Reco 90's kit articulations.

>>13760641
>what has Kudelia done?
absolutely nothing
the whole show

>>13760636
>he has less of a personality than fucking Mika
He really doesn't. I watched the 00 compilation movies last night, and considering how they fucking butchered everything with them, like the Turn A ones, I still felt that Setsuna had more of a personality than Mika. And I don't even like 00.

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So, union leader guy is playing both sides of the street? Or is he just trying to backstab Tekkadan and get as many bargaining chips as possible for taking over the colony?

>>13760659

Watch it again because he really doesn't.

>>13760641
She's a simpering clod stuck in a self-pity rut.

The first ep or two, fine, she's a rich girl who was riding high on notions of being revolutionary and solving everyone's troubles for them, #MartianLivesMatter. Then she has to actually go out and live with them and realizes she's fucking useless at everything. The problem is not only is that tired as hell (true as it may be, the comically useless female lead is really played out), but she hasn't moved past it since. Every episode she continues to wallow in her own powerlessness, and gets a pep talk not to worry, only to resume brooding the next ep. Even when she starts to make progress and find some way to be useful - which is always in some traditional-waifu role like teaching or cooking or first aid - she ends up right back to brooding over uselessness right after.

It's fucking tiresome.

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>>13760647
>they definitely learned from HGBF stickerfests
;__;

>>13760660
Navona wants revolution

Biscuit's brother is working with the enemy, but really only does so because he wants to prevent a revolution from starting in Dort 2, which would destroy the slums he really belongs to

Navona thinks Biscuit's brother is a traitor to the slum folk

Biscuit's brother is apologising because he even thoug he switched sides he still didn't manage to stop revolution, which will lead to the Union workers getting wiped out by Gjallarhorn's supposed superior firepower. He is now going to be forced to be against the people he was trying to help, just by being part of the establishment

>>13760671

A spoiled rich girl who never had to work for something in her life is useless without her parents. Gee colour me surprised. You guys sound surprised at how helpless she is.

She is an idealist and nothing more. This is more realistic to other princesses who could do everything under the fucking sun. I expected her to be useless but straight forward and dammit I got that.

>>13760667
Fag

>>13760682

Right back at you cum sucker.

>>13760681
>This is more realistic to other princesses who could do everything under the fucking sun.
I think Lacus was the only one like that really.

>>13759912
>Fumitan
>I absolutely must die for that useless piece of shit because everyone has to

>>13759948
>It's Code Geass level of mecha-soap fun
In the bizarro dimension maybe.

>>13760600
Setsuna is just Heero made a godlike being during the course of the show. In the movie, everyone is just waiting for him to save their ass with his superpowers like a messiah. It's undoubtly one of the worst main characters robot animation ever created and stands today among the numerous good reasons to refuse the horrible "Gundam fan" label.

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>>13760675
well damn
also the shoulders and some part of Gusion legs need to be painted black as well apparently, just like Barbie's yellow rims on its shoulders

>>13760681
>This is more realistic to other princesses who could do everything under the fucking sun.
That isn't true at all. Dianna struggled many times especially the hospital episode. Aida had a huge point about how she forced herself into roles like pilot to please others and failed eventually learning to forge her own path

The problem isn't failing, it is what they learned from it. Kudelia hasn't progressed at all, just fails and complains how how she is useless

>>13760667
Setsuna's whole thing from the start was nihilism because of all the shit he went through as a child soldier. He has a subtle anger to him, a hatred of the world simmering under the surface, that comes out when he faces Ali. But he ends up realizing that he's just as bad as what he's fighting, and over time he starts to UNDERSTANDING and that complete disregard for human life is bad, mkay. That's actually a thing later in S2, in that Graham goes from calm, professional soldier to zealot as almost the complete inverse of Setuna moving from zealot to calm.

Thus far, Mika's just been a guy who didn't give a shit and smiled after killing people. Which was refreshingly straightforward while it was shown off, but since then he's mostly just sat around. Now they're starting to hint at him actually having some deeper level of thought or outright repression, trying to push him down the Setsuna rode of "stoic child soldier that meets a kindly girl politician and realizes the error of his ways".

tldr: Setsuna has more of a persona -right now- because his story is done. Mika's is still ongoing so we'll see, but he's basically Setsuna over again.

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>>13760688
>Relena
>Audrey
>Dianna

>>13760681
What >>13760707 said. If you notice, I said outright that being comically hapless useless princess is boring and played out to start with, and Kudelia is especially bad right now because they JUST KEEP PUTTING HER THERE. It isn't just that she was useless, she keeps BEING useless, and she keeps "making a decision" not to be, only to be right back to brooding over being useless the next episode. Not only doesn't she advance, she goes through the motions of getting ready to do so every episode or two, only to immediately regress and repeat the uselessness process over again. It's incredibly repetitive and boring.

>>13760708
But Setsuna progressed faster, we got more hints into it earlier and more often

Mika may have something by the end but that won't retroactively help

>>13760712
Relena couldn't do shit which is why she turned over her title to Treize

>>13760707

Tell me if any of those princesses had their dad's try to assassinate them and mess with their psyche.

Kudelia's issue is that EVERYTHING involving her is about how useless and dumb she is.
How many scenes did she have that are not about that? The food and the kiss. I don't remember any other.

>>13760712
Relena? Are you fucking serious? About all she ever did was pull a gun on someone, everything else was her being shepherded from place to place by someone else, used as a figurehead passed from Sanc Kingdom to World Nation to foreign service. She never showed any skill other than yelling for Heero or being used as a political tool.

>>13760732
Diana had her people turn against her and she had to flee her ship

>>13760705
It was incredibly disappointing that 00 turned into that.

>>13760732
They weren't. But they were in danger more times than Kudelia has ever been so far.
Also Aida lost her lover and was forced to accept his killer and Dianna saw her lover's son die without being able to do a thing about that.
They both had their struggles and problems to deal with.

Rushing to judgements, if the show gets another season then hold off on those and let the show continue. If it is like G-Reco and finishes with only one season, then all your anger is justified.

The only reason I am not bashing this is because I am hoping this gets another 26 episodes.

>>13760751
Another season won't stop this one have being boring and badly written for most of it

>>13760726
>>13760739
For that matter, Audrey was much the same - had just enough knowledge to know how to slip off a ship or travel on Earth on her own, but it only lasted until someone else scooped her up. She was just as much a political football being passed around.

https://twitter.com/MilesExpress999/status/688789524378447872
https://twitter.com/MilesExpress999/status/688792815460085760
Reminder that this is the best Gundam in 10+ years, probably even better than Turn A

>>13760757

And yet here you are in this thread.

I like to be optimistic in whatever I am watching and won't throw away a show because /m/ hates it. Didn't do it Reco and won't do it with IBO.

>>13760751
What a stupid thing to do. They've advertised it as a 1 season show the whole way through. Unlike 00 this was never said to be split season. 25 episodes is what you are getting. The past 3 Gundam series were all 25 episodes. All were more successful than this so far and only one got a sequel and even that didn't use the same cast. This show doesn't even put out unique Gunpla. Everything is a rehash that reuses the other kits in the show. Try introduced a ton of new one off kits and it is only getting an OVA.

Mika is just a dog. He put all his faith in Orga and became a killing machine for him because Orga defines an aim for them he cannot conceive himself. As a social disorder and killings apart, it's a more common trait that the Setsuna childhood trauma cliche.

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Tekedan is ZEEKS

Gayhorns a EFSF

>>13760688
Lacus was also a coordinator, so her being able to pick up skills or know a bunch of things would have made sense in the setting. What made her cringingly bad was that everyone fell down on their knees to worship her just because she was a pop idol they knew, and somehow she got a whole organization getting all the tech in existence to build super-suits that surpassed those of either a globe-spanning earth government or super-special military organization stocked with other genius supermen like her.

>>13760779

no shit you retard

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>>13760751
>26
That reminds me, the rest of those 26 Gundam are just gonna be MSV material at this point, right?
I'm interested in white Arche, but I doubt it'll appear in the show.

>>13760751
Why is unfair to form a judgement of those 15 episodes themselves?

Wow this is one crazy Gundam spinoff series! I have no idea why they tried to make people think it was a main series, when it has basically no robots.

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>>13760785

>>13760774

>All were more successful than this so far

In what way?

>This show doesn't even put out unique Gunpla. Everything is a rehash that reuses the other kits in the show

Subjective nonsense that has been rehashed for months.

>>13760732
Dianna's own crew staged a coup and there was also an assassination attempt against her
Aida tried to get her hands dirty in a mobile suit in an attempt to prove her worth even knowing she she wasnt that great at it

Kudelia has just been tekkadans cargo up to this point
they should ditch her and become pirates

>>13760105
i wish victory had shading

>>13760802
>7 graze kits

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>>13760802
>In what way?

G-Reco sold more discs, BF was so successful it got a sequel less than a year after it ended and both BF and Try were getting their Gunpla sales praised to high heaven on Twitter by people involved.

>Subjective nonsense that has been rehashed for months.

Subjective? Are you retarded? This show is rehashing the same suits over and over. How many Graze kits will we get? How many Barbatos? How many unique suits are being put out?

>>13759976
>you need to be a Tominofag to have a shred of common sense

>>13760802
>Subjective nonsense
How is that subjective? Every kit reuses a large amount of parts outside the not gn arms and pigtails suit, the Graze has about 6 variants with at best minor differences

50 episodes format destroyed 00 with redundant stories and unwanted focus on unwanted characters. Sunrise should try to improve quality inside 26 parts series until it succeeds.

>>13760817
unfortunately it was made by studio 3 whove made, seed, seed destiny, 00, Age, GBF/TRY and now IBO
of course it was never going to look good

>>13760065
It's like you're plugging your brain in once every week.

>>13760830
Seed and Destiny were done by Studio 9.

>>13760830
bad meme

>>13760811
I will say, as a depressive given to defeatism, Kudelia's bouncing between optimism for tomorrow and abrupt crashes back into self-pity are very familiar. She acts a lot like I did in the past. Always deciding I'd be better starting in the morning only to wake up and be back to start.

The problem is, that's not very good or interesting for a fictional character. It's not something people want to see, and it just drags down the whole show.

>>13760818
The one with mohawk and sword hasn't even announced yet, but I get your point.

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>>13760121
>all this post

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How can everything in this show be so objectively sad, but I just don't care about any of it? It's always talking about how fucked up everything is, but I just don't give a shit about any of these retarded characters. They literally had to beat the shit out of a little girl this episode to manufacture drama, but even then it didn't feel earned. I can't wait for some other easy drama like BABY MURDER.

Fumitan is the only one with actual human dilemma, and it's basically been totally in the background, and it will probably be resolved by next episode. Everyone else is a little wind up idiot who is tracing the line down to their eventual animu ending with no interesting growth or development, no internal challenges, it's just a bunch of cartoon nonsense. They're going to work hard together, they're going to get kudelia to earth, basically no one (besides fumitan) will ever betray each other or have anything to lose by choosing the path they want, and even if they do, I just don't give a shit about them. Kudelia will end up with mika, atra ends up with bisquick, and the rest of them end up in gay doujins. Maybe Orga ends up with some cake.

And honestly these problems are minor compared to the show's main issue

THERE FUCKING NO ROBOTS IN THIS SHOW WHAT THE FUCK

>>13760842
doven wolf graze isn't getting a kit

>>13760802
>>13760818
Isn't part of the problem how they're doing this compatible inner frame gimmick? Doesn't that limit their designs to using either the Gundam or the Graze frame?

>>13760430
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>13760860
It likely has some effect but mostly it is the show doesn't have a lot of variety, it lacks battles to introduce more and sunrise bet the show would sell stupid high numbers so figured everyone would buy

>A Gundam show featuring a battle per month.
>"It takes no risk."

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>>13760874

If that's what taking a risk is...

>>13760829
>50 episodes format destroyed 00 with redundant stories and unwanted focus on unwanted characters
Those problems have nothing to do with the 50 episodes count. It's basically how Japan has been telling most of its stories for a while already.

>>13760874
They still need to kill one person from the main cast

>>13760867
Not him, but I noticed something in that vein. There's so many elements in this show that people have been wanting badly. Things like a reduction of beam spam (if not outright removal), and thereby a return to knock-down drag-out robot bashing. Or having the MC actually be backed up by grunts. Having ship-to-ship boarding, other semi-realisitic things done on a regular basis by the MC's faction. Or having an MC that wasn't so UNDERSTANDING, and didn't have as many problems about just flat killing the other side. Heck, the whole "Gundam on Mars" thing.

All the little touches are there, the setting COULD be magnificent. But instead, we get this grueling Okada melodrama.

>>13760881
Hey, Gundam is all about selling toys man. Hiding the MS in each episode is the risk among the risks for Sunrise and Bandai.

>>13760890

They should make a gundam show that's ONLY the MS instead

>>13760885
Changing contents means jack shit when the execution is ass. Those memes are no good! We want different memes! Retards.

I wonder how Bandai execs reacted when then they found out there's no gunpla shilling in so many episodes

>>13760895
You know, if it was something like Barbatos wandering some post-apocalyptic global wilderness, like a Casshern Sins type of shit? I'd so be down for that.

>>13760825

>Every kit reuses a large amount of parts outside the not gn arms and pigtails suit.

No that's bull shit, only the variants are sharing the same parts. Even the HG Kimaris and Gusion don't share the same parts as the Barbatos. All the runners are different.

Graze has about 6 variants with at best minor differences

Graze
Schwalbe Graze
Graze Custom
Graze Custom II

That's only 4. Stop counting the same kit being released in different scales as different things. The AGE Vagan and Federation suits had more of the part-reuse thing you're complaining about than IBO.

Barbatos: unique mold
Gusion: unique mold
Kimaris: unique mold
Gusion Rebake: unique mold (they actually redid the entire ass/shield)
Man Rodi: unique mold
Hyakuren: unique mold
Hyakuri: unique mold

Every fucking kit except the Graze kits are completely different.

>>13760885
>other semi-realisitic things
You mean like ramming your ship into another and it not harming yours at all?

A big problem with these thing that people want and IBO has is it doesn't commit or think them all the way through especially on how the world as a whole should be. It just sort of half arses the idea and calls it a day, for some that ends up being enough. They could be really cool if fleshed out but like a lot of IBO it seems like no one really cared

>we get this grueling Okada melodrama
Really it doesn't even do that so well. It is very plain melodrama

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>kept watching the trainwreck for the semen demons
>one turns out to be a hardcore lolicon
>the other is getting NTRd by his little sister

Fuck this

>>13760817
Fuala stole all of it.

>>13760895
Isn't Sangokuden basically that?

>>13760858
>How can everything in this show be so objectively sad, but I just don't care about any of it?
Because contents != execution

For some reason idiots can't even begin to understand that.

>>13760908
>(they actually redid the entire ass/shield)
Source?

>>13760640
Then the series will be completely redeemed.

>>13760904
>>13760909
That's it exactly. It's like, they took the basic building blocks, but then either mishandled or completely dropped them. And the worst part is that if they end up deeming the show a flop, they can use that as an excuse to never touch those elements again.

>>13760860
The problem with Graze's frame is that most kits that used it were just Grazes with extra shit slapped on. The impression is that there's not much to do with Graze's frame. At best you can hope for Grazetank for something different.
With Gundam frames you do get variation from basic Gundam like Barbs to fatass Gusion and knight-like Kimaris. We get the impression that the Calamity War Gundams can be wildly different.

>>13760908
>HG Kimaris and Gusion
They share a whole inner frame, Rebake reuses Guisons part
>b-but it has a few different
Vast majority anon
and another thread posted about how Kimaris will also get a redo

You missed that the Graze had a Char and Garma version and the normal graze has a Ares

>>13760906

I don't like the show much at all but I have bought several of the kits, I think for people that truly enjoy gunpla as a hobby the design of the suits matters much more than how much they are featured in the show. That said, I have no idea about people who only enjoy them more casually or basically as figures to relate to the show.

>>13760908
>Man Rodi: unique mold
>Gusion: unique mold
They're identical, with minor changes.

Seems a bunch of people here believes that melodrama in Gundam appeared with IBO. The whole fucking franchise is largely a very bad written melodrama, hidden brothers/sisters and MC falling in love with a character five minutes after meeting her and five minutes before she is killed by the other side. The whole. Fucking. Gundam. Everytime. Since 1979.

>>13760924
The main complain about IBO is that it never went beyond throwing ideas around while consistently refusing to give any substance to them. It's all poster and devices. Hell Barbatos is nothing but a poster poser.

>>13760885
>a return to knock-down drag-out robot bashing
This was never a thing

>>13760936

but they had robots

I personally care much more about the suits than the characters in ANY series, I have more love for even the regular GM than I do for Amuro

>>13760924
IBO really suffers from failure to launch. Which annoys me cause people will go back and say the first few episodes were good but no it was the promise that was to come with them

>>13760936
IBO is literally AGE tier of shit writing.

I'm honestly hoping for more gunpla shilling, when the show isn't shilling, it just defaults to peace princess taking about how she's useless.

>>13760337
Even Birdman's whole thing is self aware judging from the preview. He's officially jumped ship and is now going around as the masked detective superhero persona.

>>13760817
There were loads of scenes with shading, you just have to actually watch the show. Shocking, I know.

>>13760914
Don't worry anon, Ein will handle his "Schwalbe"

>>13760948
The first few episodes weren't dragging shit anywhere as hard as what came after episode 3.

>>13760942
And yet what are some of the most popular fights in the franchise? Ones where the mechs got torn the fuck up, usually by devolving into brutal melees. Meanwhile anything that shits out beams by the ton is derided for it.

>>13760962
>And yet what are some of the most popular fights in the franchise? Ones where the mechs got torn the fuck up, usually by devolving into brutal melees
Give me an example not from 08th MS Team.

>>13760959
The first three episodes were the same shit of badly done exposition, I even remember people saying well it is just the first few episodes they've got to do that

>>13760908
Hyakuren and hyakuri actually share some runners.

>>13760926
For the HG, Gusion doesn't use the gundam frame parts that the other gundams do in order to make the design work in HG form while keeping parts down. The 1/100 uses it though.

>>13760935
The kits don't share any parts. They look similar, but use entirely different molds.

>>13760962
"Beam spam" is just a convenient way to say poorly choregrapged and mindless padding battles, in no way does it mean that having suits shooting laser is a bad thing.

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>>13760958
>pounces on and corrupts the new guy so he can vent all his frustrations and pent up desires
Yes please, alright I'm back in. Plus I gotta see that ZOE looking prototype they showed off a while ago in its full color.

>>13760950
So AGE tier of shit writing is still better than Cosmic Era or 00.

>>13760977
Cosmic Era is horrendous and 00 goes full retard after S1.

>>13760926
>They share a whole inner frame, Rebake reuses Guisons part

No they fucking don't. THEY DON'T SHARE ANY RUNNERS BESIDES POLYCAPS. The "A" runner which has the runner that contains the internal frame is fucking different on every HG IBO Gundam.

Rebake does not use Gusion parts. Bandai completely re did the mold.

>you missed that the Graze had a Char and Garma version and the normal graze has a Ares

Those are just recolors you're talking about the ones that are part variants. Also, those are p-bandai and aren't part of the normal HG lineup for numbering.

>>13760966
Amuro vs Char, CCA
Fenice vs Build Strike, GBF

>>13760981
00 had some majorly retarded shit in the first season too.

>>13760935
do you even own any of these kits or have at least looked at the instructions? Neither of those 2 share any parts besides visually looking similar. Dont' backpedal and say they share polycaps.

>>13760920
If you look at the kits, the rebake shield has a couple of altered surface details (Such as the raised ridges on the top and bottom and the thruster grooves are more shallow). It's a new molded part.

>>13760908
Graze
Space Graze
Schwalbe Graze 1
Schwalbe Graze 2
Graze Kai
Pink Graze
Hyakuren and hyakuri share parts of the frame
The gusion rebake has barbatos armour
barbatos and kimaris share frame parts
only 100% unique kits so far are Man rodi and Gusion

Just a reminder that there are no such thing as a good Gundam series.

If she's so famous how the fuck does Savarin not know what Kudelia even looks like?

>>13760920
look at the promo pictures. The shield ass's physical appearance is completely different from when it was Gusion's backpack.

>>13760989
I didn't say S1 was without dumb shit especially Louise and Saji, only that S2 took matters into its hands to explore uncharted territories of retardland.

>>13760988
>Amuro vs Char, CCA
>brutal melee
Fuck off, retard

If the series was about THE Calamity War, would you watch it?
Ars Goetia Gundams fucking each other's shit up and destroying humanity's future?

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>>13760982
>The "A" runner which has the runner that contains the internal frame is fucking different on every HG IBO Gundam.

Kimaris is reusing the barbatos frame based on the promo pics the rebake is as well. The kimaris has an extra frame part shoved over the shins of it though.

>>13761003
>If the series was about THE Calamity War, would you watch it?
Only if it's named gundam.

>>13761002
Are you blind, nigga?

>>13760995

The Graze and Space Graze are the same kit HG #2, you just move the position of the thrusters between the ass or the back. Are you thinking of the Blue colored Graze, used by the Ares branch?

The Scwhalbe Graze is only 1 kit. Galeo's P-Bandai release just includes the lance runner in the MGS Option Set 01. You can make your own Galeo graze by buying a scwalbe graze and MGS Option Set 01 and purple paint.

Barbatos and Kimaris don't share runners

Gusion rebake doesn't have any of Barbatos' armor, they are all unique, but look similar

Why are people acting like reusing runners is something abhorrent that only IBO is doing? This is standard for gunpla releases. The graze kit is being reused a shit ton but that's about it.

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>>13760895

>there will never be a 30 minute single episode high-budget OVA of a Zaku II being built from start to finish with 0 dialogue

Basically this https://youtu.be/libw1rV2McY

It would be the most pure /m/ gundam product of all time

>>13760908
>>13760995
We also should consider this next to other series

Greco had 1 variant of the jahannam. There were then 3 G-selfs. Counting P-bandai puts the variants up 3 more. Outside that every kit was vastly different

Even if you want to try and argue it down to well IBO only reuses a few thing sometimes it is still a fuck load more especially when those aren't P-bandai

>>13761012
>Barbatos and Kimaris don't share runners

They do actually. >>13761004

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>>13761004
omg you fucking retard look at the A runner on the HG Barbatos and the A Runner of the HG Kimaris, THEY AREN'T THE SAME RUNNER.

>>13759895

> it has to be intentional that a facial expression so minor you have to zoom right in to the point that you could count the individual pixels making it up just to be able to see it isn't that detailed

Are you being intentionally dense?

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>>13761004

>Gundam fans bashing every new show 24 hours a day but always keen to hallow the lame UC fanfictions when it's called CCA or Unicorn.

>>13761019
G-reco had a shockingly low amount of mold reuse for a gundam series' kits. AGE, 00, and BF all had a large amount of mold reuse, most of the kits shared runners in some way with at least one other kit.

>>13761022
>>13761027
Anon look at the actually parts on those runners, the majority is the same

>>13761022
whoa calm down anon

>>13761004
Your pictures doesn't address that statement. The runner is different.

>>13761033
Stop changing the goal posts, the runners aren't the same, therefore the mold is unique

>>13761017

I would watch this, especially if it was in the 0083 style with max SHADING

>>13761030
At least in BF's case it's because they're kitbash in-universe.
00 because of Transam, GNHWs and ace customs, not to mention MSVs (Exia and 00 variants)
No idea about AGE.

>>13761027
>>13761022

Bandai's molds are modular. Its the exact same parts, just rearranged differently to create a "New" runner that uses the same parts without wasting plastic on unused parts from the previous kit. The frames detail and design of the kimaris is identical to the barbatos. The mold parts have just been rearranged so that you don't get things like barbatos's mace on the kimaris kit.

>>13761038
Do you actually know how they make models for these? Cause I don't think you do

IBO a big, fucking shit

>there hasn't been a good Gundam since Turn A

The "Runners" are different, but the molds aren't. Bandai uses modular frames and CG models for the parts. Even assuming somehow that they had to create a completely new mold for the frame, it's teh exact same CG design placed onto the new spot. The best example I can think of is for the miss sazabi. They created new runners by reusing the CG models of the original hguc sazabi kit, which is why that despite using a newly created mold it has the old sazabi proportions and identical parts.

>>13761052

The modularity you're speaking of for runners means that certain sections of a runner are turned on or off for different variants. However that means Part 13 is still going to be Part 13 on the variant runner and it's also going to be facing the same direction.

That's not the case here. Bandai made a new mold for this.

>>13761068

not the other guy, but they do have to be different physical molds because the corresponding part numbers are different on each runner

>>13761052
>>13761068
Also should point out that sometimes it is more cost effective to just print a load of the same rather than rearrange which is why some kits come with extra parts

>>13761051
Fuck, looking back GN Archer was probably the only 00 kit that had unique mold and wasn't reused.

>>13761068
>The "Runners" are different, but the molds aren't.

I think what you meant to say was the Runner and molds are different but the parts are the same. You can't have a different runner and say they are same mold.

>>13761029
UC is good though, faggot

>>13761074
Probably that, yeah. Based on the review pics and manuals the parts themselves are identical in design and engineering, so it's probably a case of "We reused the part models, but made a new runner mold for them".

So it's an odd case of reusing the parts across kits, but not the specific molds.

>>13761083
>You can't have a different runner and say they are same mold.
Actually, you can. Just close one of the switches on the runners.
Different runner from the same mold.

>>13760733
Teaching the kids how to read comes to mind. Tbh I wish they would've continued with that, it would've been nice to have seen the kids (and Mika) making progress with their education, and coming to respect Kudelia as a teacher. It would have also given her a better role than "useless princess"

>>13761083
Crap, I'm running into the issue of "Mold" having a sort of double meaning of being the parts shape itself and the physical mold that you make it with.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

>>13759852
Her job was to lead Kudelia to her assassination, not to pull the trigger herself.

>>13761090
>>13761074
Why would they bother doing that? Surely it would needlessly cost more money. Are you guys sure they can't have different numbers cause I don't remember ever getting a kit that didn't have the right ones

>>13761110
The barbatos runners with the frame parts on them have things like the all the weapons on them as well which take up a good chunk of plastic. The kimaris seems to compress all the frame parts onto one runner by itself and I wouldn't doubt that the rebake is going to reuse the same exact A runner as the Kimaris rather than the barbatos's. And with the barbatos runners already being used towards the long range booster kit it may have justified making a new runner for the other gundams to use that don't have the excess weapon parts and second runner needed to make the frame them using up plastic.

>>13761144
This is interesting

It seems then that at best IBO is saving a bit more than other series with stuff like he graze but for the most part it will have been as expensive to produce gunpla as other shows

>>13761038
you're literally retarded. What does it matter how the parts are arranged on the runners if they are still the same parts?

>>13761161
I think what he is trying to get at is that by rearranging the parts you need to create a new runner mold, which makes it not as cost saving as reuising the existing mold.

It's still saves time and development costs though. I'm still a bit suprised that bandai reusing parts and molds across kits is surprising to some people and generated so much discussion. They've been doing this for years. IBO is just the most recent in a long line with G reco being a weird exception with how little it reused parts.

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>>13760329
Who could this mysterious long haired stranger be?

another thing that kills the hype is not revealing name and colors of upcoming MS

we've known about rebake since december and they still haven't officially revealed its name

>>13761185
Then again, the revealing the colour doesn't always go well. The Rebake looks like an unfinished Resin kit

Seriously who chose that colour? even if it was a desert MS you'd go for a different colour

>>13761184
At least they bothered with the wig now. Took them long enough.

>>13761189
Washio most likely, though sometimes other designers colors

>>13761095
>Teaching the kids how to read comes to mind
She did that because she was useless.

>>13761038
kek

>>13761161
it means there's no cost savings because a mold had to be created to make that runner. It debunks the conspiracy theory that there's less gunpla cost

>>13761233
>It debunks the conspiracy theory that there's less gunpla cost
Not him anon but no it doesn't and the is still a very high amount of reuse, it just isn't as much as people were saying. Even if you can argue parts down to only 4 grazes that is a fuck load for even the zaku clone

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>>13759939

I certainly hope not so soon. Otherwise we'll be running out of stand out villains.

>>13761090
>Based on the review pics and manuals the parts themselves are identical in design and engineering

Looking at the parts now, even the ones that look like they are the same are different in some way. Like the mounts for the shoulder armor have some additional pegs on the kimaris frame vs the barbatos even though are the same at first glance.

It looks like the chest frame parts and the forearm parts are the same parts just molded on new runners. Everything else about Kimaris' frame is new, which is a lot of parts. Makes sense why they made new mold.

>>13761257
>stand out villains.
When was the last time he did anything villainous? For that mater when was the last time he did anything important?

Are the Gundams in Iron Blood Orphans the weakest ones out of all the series?

I'm sure even the RX-89-2 could out preform them with its beam gun

>>13761240
a fuck load compared to what? Zaku clones? Other non Gundam grunts?

The literal zaku clones, the Zaku warrior had way more.

Zaku Warrior
Zaku Warrior Lunamaria
Zaku Warrior Concert version
Gunner Zaku Warrior
Zaku Phantom
Zaku Phantom Heine
Zaku Phantom Dearka

What about the Flag and Enact?

Union Flag
Graham's Flag
OverFlag
Ali's Enact
Enact Demo type
Ali's Blue Enact

>>13761291
>RX-89
Jegan was RGM anon

>>13761293
Anon we are talking about kits. Only 3 flags got kits. 6 Zaku warriors did though which is also a fuck load and if IBO keeps it rate up it could match (there was at least 1 new one in the new OP)

>>13761380
Boys can't get pregnant.

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>>13760329
>He doesnt like the mask

>>13761384
I can get behind the mask but that stupid wig pisses me off.

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>>13761380
Yes.

So why did Mccgillis help Kudelia? I'm confuse.

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Mostly to screw over Nobliss?

Fumi a Char?

>>13761885
Best girl right there.

>>13761302
anon we're talking about reuse of runners/parts on the kit releases

the flags and enacts share those parts because the enact is supposed to be a knock off Flag in the 00 universe

>>13759917
But Miuna

>>13759912
This has been the best episode thus far, what are you on

>>13761885
No, that's Gaelio

>>13760053
Okada never fails at delivering crap.

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>>13759754
May the Char destroy the space rats