Starships in Mecha

>>13711589
Because the mechs aren't going to repair themselves, and sleeping in a cockpit sucks.

>>13711600
>Sleeping in a cockpit sucks.
There's a toilet and everything else you need.

>>13711589

logistics. carriers, support. communications. Heavy artillery

>>13711589
The same reason carriers exist for planes

>>13711607
Only in G-Reco.

There was that one time somebody pissed themselves in an MS in Victory.

>>13711589

>Why do carriers exist when a single fighter with an anti-shipping missile will easily destroy them?

To be fair to OP, most mecha series treat their warships like shit due to one reason or another.

>>13711607
>toilet
Only in g-reco

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>>13711589
>no episode about the pilots trying to stop an anti-carrier missile from norkland

>>13711658
>>13711666
>Not having a toilet in your mech
Next thing you're gonna say is that you don't even have a microwave or minifridge.
What are you, clanners?

>>13711682
Aff.

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>>13711682
reeeeeee

Sphere scum gtfo

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>>13711600
Why don't they integrate homes in giant robots?

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That's because Gundam ships suck.

Unless you're the nadesico then you just rape everything forever

>>13711729
The head of the Rando family in Acrobunch did so for the title mech. Granted, the show's not that good.

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>>13711589
Because there are space debris for your giant space ship robot to surf on.

>>13711729
Optimus Prime usually transforms into a semi, and many semis have a space for short-term accommodations. Does that count?

>>13711749
Not too badly, they just aren't shown getting AA kills too much.

This isn't too far from reality. Most of the time "flak" or direct fire AA doesn't get too many kills.

>>13711589
And how many bombs did it take for the Japanese to sink the Arizona?

One lucky hit is enough.
Maybe Gundam just makes lucky hits look easy most of the time.
But then I'm reminded of RotJ where the A-wing crashed into the bridge of the super star destroyer sending it crashing into the death star.

It's same idea that WWII proved, air power can sink ships. But you need the ships to bring your air power to the fight.

Just research the Battle of Midway OP.

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>>13712004
This anon knows.

>>13712101

Gundam is also handicapped by Minovsky particles fucking up everything and no countermeasure or alternative ever being found.

Still, the Macross Quarter's guns in that scene were crazy strong. That's three/six shots out of the standard turrets for three ship-to-ship kills. You'd think the Vajra ships would put up more of a fight.

>>13712184
The Vajra make up for it in numbers and basically being an organic version of the Borg.

>>13712209

I thought they were supposed to be numerous AND strong seeing as the Protoculture revered them and based many technologies off them.

I expected the Quarter to punch through ONE Vajra ship with all three cannons for heavy damage, not one hit = one kill on three ships.

>>13712184
To be fair, those ships were the Vajra equivalent of Destroyers.

Getting destroyed easily is kind of expected for them.

>>13711729
This is the best idea ever.
Mobile Home Gundam.

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>>13712228
Astray already did it. It even had a bath tub.

>>13712184
They're just escorts, it's not capital ships going down.

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>>13712235

>>13712235
there's also Hospital ZAKU

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>>13712238
You don't even need a ship for that.

>>13711682
Thank you, Boss.

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>>13711589

Maybe you should watch shows who have a better grasp of technology and tactics. Mobiles Suits only ruin the day of everything else because Mobilesuits are running around with 23rd century magic-technology and the plot kneecaps anyone who tries to give battleships targeting computers built after 1968.

Macross has ships that blow mech out of the sky, and the Gunbuster for all of its strength would be powerless to destroy the Eltruem.

>>13712239
They alreadt have flat TVs so why not finish it adding a tub and a mask cleaning machine.

Gundam ships aren't bad, they just don't get shown off that often because gotta sell gunpla.

>>13712498

They are pretty bad. There are some Gundams I have not seen, but in all the ones I have watched they are absolutely powerless in the face of mobilesuits. The only time they ever seem to get any kills is if they use special wide area attacks like a Super Hyper Mega-particle Cannon (which, by the way, is a terrible name for a weapon) to just blow up a bunch of stuff at once before they go back to quaking in their boots the moment anything looks at them.

>>13711729
Gurren dragged around a makeshift trailer for a short bit.

Most ships in Gundam suffer from the same major flaw, without Mobile Suit support they are nothing more than giant sitting ducks. This fact was made quite apparent to the Federation during the Battle of Loum. Despite the Federation utterly outnumbering and outgunning Zeon at least three fold, warships just lack the capability of being able to properly aim and attack mobile suits.

While most ships later on were equiped with anti-mobile suit defenses, they almost always require a mobile suit or fighter escort to bring them into a battle without the risk of just being instantly destroyed. While they essentially are just expensive, lumbering hangers and turrets for the most part, they are still vital for large scale battles for resupplying and support fire.

>>13713227
but why is it possible to design a mobile suit that can aim and fire at another mobile suit, but not a turret that can aim and fire at a mobile suit with the same accuracy Hrm.. explain that one

>>13712118
You'd think that with the number of ships lost they would look into alternatives.

>>13713327
Basic physics. A humanoid suit has multiple points of articulation: wrist, elbow, shoulder, hip. All can be adjusted to subtly alter the trajectory of a shot.

A turret is a fixed point. Even 1 degree of alteration at the turret can be hundreds of feet of difference a few hundred meters away.

>>13713372
Exactly right, no matter how well built a warship is for anti-mobile suit warfare (Ex. Birmingham, Dogosse Giar) They just can't compare with the mobility of most Mobile suits, especially post Zeta gundam units. Even with the Federations revisions to warships post One Year War to try and bolster anti aircraft capability, it was not enough to fully remedy the main flaws listed.

>>13711589
Warships by Unicorn are hard as fuck ti destroy without a barrage of fire from a fellow ship. Frontal even had problems taking down the Nahel Argama in a special snowflake char customized gundam wannabe.

It was only easy to destroy ships up until 0083. Further than that, they got better antiair and hulla with beam coating on the vital parts

>>13713400

>Frontal even had problems taking down the Nahel Argama

>toying with it by only destroying its AA turrets with precise shots forcing the crew to use Minverva as hostage
>Single-handedly took down General Revil and its mobile suit escort with only Rozen Zulu, without the cover of space debris

Are we even watching the same show?

>>13712235
>>13712239
What's the name for this silly, brilliant thing?

>>13713529
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/ZGMF-X12_Gundam_Astray_Out_Frame

>>13712235
Even that's over sized compared to modern "tiny houses"

>>13712235
this thing looks like barbatos if it was more generic

>>13711749

what ps1 game is that?

>>13711749
Macross doesn't offer a particularly fair comparison here when a good amount of the technology was piggybacked off of the work of an advanced civilization.

>>13713875
How is that relevant?

>>13713661
don't act like such a faggot you tryhrad cock sucker

>>13711729
>Why don't they integrate homes in giant robots?

They did that in Cruise Chaser Blassty.

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Daikengo seemed to imply that there were living quarters inside it in its space cruiser mode.