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Suddenly Akino's songs running in the back
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>>13637599
If true, too little, too late.
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I got hyped as fuck when OZORE started.
Akino is fantastic!!
May'n has been ok for an Aquarion series, but Akino is The Best!
Amazing episode!
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so is the series over? How'd it go?
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>>13638061
There's still one episode left.
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About time. Evol reused old Aquarion songs all the time, what was Logos waiting for?
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It's out already or am I getting rused
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>>13638070
It doesn't seemed to be ending
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>>13638590

I don't know what that means
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>>13638608
"Never ends! Aquarion Logos"
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>>13638590
>leaves itself open for a sequel.
If bad sales can't kill Aquarion, what the fuck can?
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>>13638682

Kawamori not wanting to make anymore.
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>>13638682
Nothing, making it the best franchise ever, it tells sheeple off.
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>>13638682
Bad Pachinko returns.
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>>13638695
>"here's my scribbles while I was high. Make something out of it will you?"
Aquarion 4 coming 2018
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>>13638733
How Konami fares with pachinko will prove if this is a sustainable market.
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I knew we'd get Akino for the big fight. We had Sousei no Aquarion and Kimi ni Shinwa, fuck I was really hyped
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>>13638695
Kawamori didn't have anything to do with this one already.
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>dropped this at episode 9 cause it got boring.
>decide to pick it up since its ending anyway, might as well catch up
>mfw the second half
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on a scale of 1 to Zessica how much suffering am I in for
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>>13640026
4
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>>13640120

Oh. well that ain't too bad.
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>>13639794
He is credited with the story concept though.

He's pretty much the idea-man for Logos, and the staff pulled it off pretty well.
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>>13640797
>and the staff pulled it off pretty well.
Making it the least popular installment in the franchise
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>>13640806
>Making it the least popular installment in the franchise
I think its mostly Evol's fault.
Evol fucked up so hard, people didn't want to watch Logos out of distaste for the shit that is Evol's second half.
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>>13640812
all the fags would still drop Logos after 3 ep, they only watched evol because it was a harem romcom with good music
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>>13640812
>Blaming the predecessor for the failure of the sequel

Japan was mostly indifferent to EVOL so whether it was shit or not wouldn't effect LOGOS, they didn't give a shit because it was largely unappealing and didn't have the same charm as the previous installments in fact everything up to this point makes it clear that they just slapped on the Aquarion name to this since it largely has nothing to do with the series outside a few minor references. At this point the only people praising it are people who did not like EVOL yet still continued to watch the next installment for yet another shitstorm which didn't happen since EVOL was the straw that broke the camel's back for a lot of people in the west it seems.
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>>13637599
>It's just an EVOL song
Cool
Yeah
Sure
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>>13640845
>the only people praising it are people who did not like EVOL yet still continued to watch the next installment for yet another shitstorm
you are a complete retard
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>>13640921
>NO U

Great argument.
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>>13640845
Let it go, anon. This show is going the way of M3 and Argevollen in the unremarkably meh shows praised by minority doesn't help that this being an Aquarion title people are less likely to taje them seriously.
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>>13640806
I'll take an unpopular mediocre anime over a popular shit anime any day.

But honestly, if you think that Evol pulled off its story and themes better than Logos, you have a problem.

> FIGHTING DESTINY BY GOING ALONG WITH IT
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>Tang
>Logos world = Aquarion and Nesta
>I'm going to save the world so that you can't get to the save the world
This fucking episode.
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>>13637616
Neat.
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>>13640890
They slapped both OSORE and Sousei no Aquarion, but the timing on them was dubious at best.
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>None of the Aquarion DEAVA components made it into Logos Genesis
... Okay.
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>OP of the last aquarion thread here. I'm glad to see somebody else made another thread
But holy shit. This episode was so good. I can't wait to see how they wrap it up.
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>>13644878
>but the timing on them was dubious at best.
OSORE had a build up to it, sort of.
The impact was mostly due to OSORE out of nowhere though, I certainly didn't expect it to play there.
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>>13641294
>But honestly, if you think that Evol pulled off its story and themes better than Logos, you have a problem.
He never even fucking said that also thanks for proving his point twat.
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>>13641294
LOGOS isn't even pulling it off well either, it seems like every sequel after the original seems to forget the point Sousei made by saying predetermined romance is a bunch of bullocks.
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>>13644942
>saying predetermined romance is a bunch of bullocks.
But Logos didn't even do any predetermined romance.
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>>13644954
>Logos didn't even do any predetermined romance
Akira met Maia when they were young
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>>13644954
What? Akira and Maia were destined to be with one another because they met one another at a young age and she was the one who he had been wanting to save this entire time. Hilariously enough Amata and Mikono met when they were young too in the EVOL manga.
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>>13644962
That wasn't a predetermined meeting.
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>>13644971
You're retarded.
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>>13644966
Following the other Aquarion shows, a predetermined romance here would imply reincarnations. We haven't seen anything on that other than Subete and ghost bitch, and they don't seem to care.
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>>13644978
>a predetermined romance here would imply reincarnations
That's not the case at all, the only show that pushed this aspect was EVOL, Sousei just kept going is he or isn't he until the very end until it was revealed he wasn't and the characters just liked each other for themselves, reincarnations os an afterthought in LOGOS but to say a character feeling a mutual desire from a young age that carried over until he was a teenager isn't predetermined bullshit than you are an idiot.
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>>13644966
>Akira and Maia were destined to be with one another
>because they met one another at a young age and she was the one who he had been wanting to save this entire time.
All that does not even link to "destiny".

After the mind wipe, Maia had no idea the whole time that he's the one that promised to save her, meanwhile Akira kept his autism and continued being saviorman despite the fact that he doesn't even know why he wants to be saviorman.
Why did Maia follow him around? Because Sougon-sama, and then Sougon died and she followed him on her own because she developed her own feelings for him, and the same happened to him.
Then they revealed why he wanted to be a savior.

This shit is just a more convoluted version of "Childhood friend wins the MCbowl", that does not imply destiny.
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FUCK, I have to watch another episode of this crap?
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>>13645116
It's 27 episodes.

But if the 26th is the final, what is the 27th?
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>>13645267
The EVOL/Sousei OVA
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The "you are" line doesn't make any sense with the full context.
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>>13645269
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-06-25/aquarion-logos-god-eater-shimoseka-episode-counts-listed/.89723

OVAs don't count.
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>Tsutomu
Fuck why does it still hurt f.a.m. ;_;
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>>13645277
More like it doesn't make any sense, period. Even if in Japanese they said different things it would be perfectly fine if both said "you must".
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>>13640797
Not to mention Arjuna had similar themes on human communication
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>>13645280
MAL says it's 26
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>>13645280
Its listed as part of the lineup. The first episode aired alongside the OVA as a one hour premiere plus there's a new years special airing in its slot after next week.
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>>13644793
I loved that they made fun of Subete's whole character being inconsistent as fuck. If they can stick one final episode this will be the best Aquarion by miles.
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>>13644966
>Akira and Maia were destined to be with one another because they met one another at a young age
Found the retard. Subete and Maia are the ones who were destined to be together. They were lovers in a past life and Subete literally created Maia to be his waifu.
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>>13645277
Those little scenes are the best things that came out of Logos.
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>>13645293
Because everyone else is getting a happy end and he only can deal with the nothingness of death.
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>>13644987
>Sousei just kept going is he or isn't he until the very end until it was revealed he wasn't
This never happened in Sousei, it was an Evol retcon. In Sousei, Apollo was Apollonius.

>character feeling a mutual desire from a young age that carried over until he was a teenager
Again, never happened. Akira and Maia didn't even like each other at first, it took them a long time to fall for each other, just like Apollo and Silvia.
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>>13644987
>to say a character feeling a mutual desire from a young age that carried over until he was a teenager isn't predetermined bullshit than you are an idiot
>weren't in love as kids
>forget about their meeting and fall in love years later
The only idiot here is you.

>Sousei just kept going is he or isn't he until the very end until it was revealed he wasn't
He was in the end. Your attention span fucking sucks.
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>>13645469
>This never happened in Sousei, it was an Evol retcon. In Sousei, Apollo was Apollonius.
They don't outright say that Apollo was Apollonius. It's strongly implied that he was though but because they didn't outright say it, it gave Kawamori the out to make him not Apollonius.
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This chapter, 10/10. that last part with Maia thinking they were fighting for her.
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>Willed back into existance by Maia
>Forces his dick into Subete
>Cucks Subete so hard all he can do is watch his created waifus heartfelt goodbye to him

man I swear,if by next episode Akira isn't confirmed for the reincarnation of somethiing i'm gonna think this is a prequel to Genesis
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>>13645487
>>13645469
Did any of you fucks watch Sousei? Touma outright states that Apollo wasn't Apollonius that was BEFORE EVOL. He's only ever confirmed to be Apollonius in the OVA and Z1 (which was later retcon to accommodate EVOL). The underlying theme in Sousei was that reincarnation shit didn't matter and you have to live for the present which came from Gen himself until EVOL fucked it all up.
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>>13645855
>Touma outright states that Apollo wasn't Apollonius that was BEFORE EVOL
Well duh, he's not Apollonius himself, he's his reincarnation, that's what Touma meant you ADHD retard.
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>>13645865
>I'm just pretending to be retarded
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>>13645469
>Akira and Maia didn't even like each other at first, it took them a long time to fall for each other, just like Apollo and Silvia.
Wrong on both accounts dumbfuck
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>>13645890
Stop embarrassing yourself, you have no idea hat you're talking about, retard.
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>>13645855
>Touma outright states that Apollo wasn't Apollonius
Nice fanfic. Give me an screencap and I'll eat my words. Oh wait, you can't because it never happened.
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I get the feeling that the last episode will produce a satisfying ending, but there's no way it'll be able to top this 10/10 episode.
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>>13645469
I thought the Apollo = the winged dog thing retcon occurred in the Sousei OVA, and THAT'S the continuity they went with? Like... it was one of those two second shots of seeing the dog, but it was apparently meant to imply that.
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>>13638513
It's like what happened with Yuki-chan, they wanted to save the most iconic track(s) for the finale. That makes it all the more special when they actually do play it/them.
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>>13637599
Holy shit this episode was fucking incredible. The moment OSORE! started playing I was just so fucking hyped and they couldn't have possibly picked a better scene to play it on, because that whole free falling scene where Maia and Akira caught eachother was simply perfect.

Then we get fucking Aquarion Logos Genesis with an oldschool 3-way gattai between Akira, Subete, and Maia and even ICHIMANNEN TO NISENNEN MAE KARA AISHITERU to top it off? I love it.

I also loved the ending with Akira and Subete fighting about who gets to save the world and Maia's dumbfounded reaction. It would be wonderful to see more of that kind of friendly rivalry between the two of them, it's unfortunate there's only one episode left.

I fucking love this show.
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>>13646107
Subete's parents' friendly married-couple squabble was unexpected but nice too.
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You fuckers made me rewatch the last episode of Sousei.

Touma calls Apollo Apollonius and wanted Apollo to remember how much they loved each other 12,000 years ago. He never states that Apollo isn't Apollonius.
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>>13646115
Definitely. His face during it, too.
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>>13646128
EVOL defense force will make up any lie to try to defend its bullshit, what's new?
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>>13645821
> i'm gonna think this is a prequel to Genesis
It's an AU. it had the Aquarion Evol vs Sousei special playing on a TV by a store in the 1st episode.
I'm thinking it's some type of metaverse connected to the other two somehow
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>ICHIMANNEN TO NISENNEN MAE KARA AISHITERU

This is all I wanted. Thank you.
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>>13646178
So like Digimon Tamers.
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>>13646200
A third sequel in a franchise that surpasses the terrible second series? Logos really is the Tamers of Aquarion.
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>>13646200
>>13646178
>Sousei is 01
>EVOL is 02
>Logos is Tamers

Everyone abandon ship, we know whats next
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>>13646220
Except not too serious. Wait, does this mean that Tsutomu is the Leomon equivalent?
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>>13646222
But I liked Frontier...
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>>13646222
Hey man the characters being the Vectors might be pretty cool.
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>>13646200
Haven't watched digimon in years so don't really know how it would work there (ironically I just started episode 1 of Tri) I was getting at something more like gundam though
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>>13646225
Savers was nice too. I couldn't get into Hunters, though.

>>13646230
"Gattai" would take on a whole new meaning.
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>>13646237
inb4 g gundam meets digimon tamers meets aquarion
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>>13646178
Can't wait for Kawamori to return for the 4th series to fuck shit up.

>Crisis on Infinite Aquarions
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>>13646237
Fellow Frontiersman here. I liked Frontier the most out of the series, mainly because I research religions and magics in my free time, so the plot of Frontier actually meant something. Savers was when I stopped watching though, partly because the system got too mixed up, and around that time I had started taking interest in the more socially unacceptable realms of anime.
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Given that Vector-Ga didn't try eating Maia when she got into it, I guess it got over the whole "EAT NESTA" thing.
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>>13646385
Or it realized that Maia Tsukigane =/= Nesta, and left her the fuck alone.
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>>13640812
>I think its mostly Evol's fault.
By this logic, EVOL shouldn't have had many people watching it because barely anyone gave a fuck about Genesis other than the insert songs. And it still had a decent success despite the original series being mediocre. Logos is unpopular and is its own fault, and nowadays people don't care about EVOL anymore.
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>>13640818
Not defending EVOL but at least you didn't had to wait +10 episodes for it to get fun.
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>>13645488
He was though, and it was implied many times through the show, you don't need a line saying "Apollo is Apollonius" to get it.

Besides, interviews said they had the idea of making Apollo Pollon, but they settled for Apollo being Apollonius in the end. By the time EVOL came out, Kawamori got bored of writing about Celiane and Apollonius so they brought up Pollon in the end. Basically, it was indeed a retcon and they admitted it.
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>>13645855
>>13645865
See >>13646566
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>>13646145
>EVOL defense force
That exists?
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>Nesta getting pissed that Maia, despite not knowing how to read Akira's name at that point, knows that that's the name of an important person to her
The parallels between them were nice.
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>>13646566
Wasn't bringing back the Pollon thing Okada's idea?
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>>13646222

Does that mean we'll get a fairy Aquarion that hip bumps the enemies to death?
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>>13646600
Yes, but Kawamori also admitted he got bored of Celiane and Apollonius, too. So I guess he kind of agreed with her on that.
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>>13646520
What the hell are you on? Logos was much more fun, much sooner, much more often than EVOL
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Did the EVOL BD's with the new scenes added in get ripped yet?
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>>13646646
No, and never will.
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So, if we get another Aquarion, they'll play Yamaidare Darling as well?
Fuck yes
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>KIMOOOOOCHIIIIII

Fuck yeah 3-some ending
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>>13646223
He does pilot the yellow Vector and leave a girl who wanted his dick behind.
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>>13647020
The only thing we're missing is said girl to be possessed by some other worldly being that's bent on the total destruction of both worlds.
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>>13646222
Something altogether not that bad until the last arc? Because that's pretty par for the course for Aquarion, really.

>>13646237
>I couldn't get into Hunters, though.

Very, very few people could. It wasn't that good. (Xros Wars aside from that was nice though.)
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>>13646646

I've given up. I guess nobody actually bought the BD.
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I never thought I would end up loving an Aquarion show again. However, Subete and the Savior's ending sold me I'm gong to always have fond memories of Logos.
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>>13647262
It wouldn't be as good if the show didn't have so many comfy episodes before now, but it felt like they saved the budget for the last fight which was nice. Best rivalry and antagonist in an Aquarion show for sure.
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>>13646608
That would not be at all out of place for Aquarion, so sure.
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>>13647183
Xros went full /m/.
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>>13647311
The main thing I wish was different about X7 was the legs. If ZeedGreymon became a set of boots and wargauntlets like a Sentai robot then it would be perfect.
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>>13647318
Eh, can't have everything.
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>>13646107
>The moment OSORE! started playing I was just so fucking hyped and they couldn't have possibly picked a better scene to play it on
What I really enjoyed is that they actally thought about how to use insert songs instead of pasting them mindlessly a la EVOL everytime the episode was hitting 75% of its runtime.
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>>13647311
>tfw that one scene of HE'S BACK in Xros Hunters
>makes a fucking giant Diablomon its bitch

See, if Hunters had more scenes like THAT, it'd be a lot better.

>>13647318
Yeah, I can see that.

My only complaint is the same one I have with all the forms above X4 - the addition from 3 to 4 is a fucking sword, and the minute they had the requirements for 3 they could have just formed 4 outright. They should have made Knightmon the fourth piece, and something really similar to X4K would have been what we got as X4 (which is even better because X4K is HORRIFICALLY underused - did you know that, all this time later, it still officially only has one attack? Fucking X4S has more than that! FUCKING X5S HAS MORE THAN THAT, WE NEVER EVEN GOT X5S IN THE SHOW.)
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I'm a liltle crusty on the reincarnation stuff, so I decided to watch the Aquarion OVA. Is it good?
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>>13647542
Just watch the movie
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>>13647545
Is there a difference?
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>>13646646
There are no new scenes, the extra footage is interviews.
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I know Akino and all that but that BGM that played during MUGEN BLADE has hype as fuck
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>>13648305
That's lame

>>13647549
It's just the OVA but with a bonus episode from the Series it's where Aquarion got it's flower punch if you played SRW Z
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>>13648822
Almost forgot about the one that played during UNIVASS BRAID
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>>13648305
No one knows, it literally says bonus scenes.

>>13647189
I was really close to buying it, but it's not worth it. No one gives a shit anymore and it's probably a waste of money.
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>Logos has taken Aquarion back to being a silly Eva parody.

I'm absolutely okay with this.
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>>13646222
as someone unfamiliar with Digimon, what does this mean?
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>>13650932
Digimon 01 is the most loved one
Digimon 02 is universally hated
Digimon Tamers is widely considered the "best one" in the entire franchise.
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>>13650943
Add that 01 and 02 occur in the same universe, while Tamers was an AU.
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>>13650958
An AU that had 01/02 as a fictional series in-universe.
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>>13650995
(Forgot to mention, while also having a character from the 01/02 continuity. Fucking Milleniummon.)
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>>13640957
The second half is a pretty solid better-than-average character show. It works because the first season spent time to establish the characters. The problem is that the first season outside of some funny character interactions is terribly boring monster of the week affairs, and the entire series is plagued by bad animation, bad CG, bad monster design, bad robot design, and totally uninspired fights.

>>13646585
I kinda get the feeling its more people who need a reason to say that LOGOS is a pile of shit. They are trying to break down the things that LOGOS actually did right by saying Sousei or EVOL did them better first, which is laughable.

All of Aquarion is pretty mediocre, but LOGOS is doing a decent job of making the ending feel like a payoff for some of the stuff that happened earlier.
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>>13650958
Most of the Digimon series seem to take place in alternate universes, and there isn't really a main one.
But there's the time traveler from Tamers that ties the games into the show.
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>>13652797
>The second half is a pretty solid better-than-average character show. It works because the first season spent time to establish the characters. The problem is that the first season outside of some funny character interactions is terribly boring monster of the week affairs, and the entire series is plagued by bad animation, bad CG, bad monster design, bad robot design, and totally uninspired fights.
I can tell we did not watch the same series, Logos was awesome as hell.
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>>13652876
I like LOGOS, but I don't know how you can argue against the QUALITY, CG integration, and fight choreography. The design is of course a matter of personal preference, but the above are actual problems with the production of the show. Regardless of how "awesome" it is, it certainly has faults. In fact, you didn't even really argue that they weren't there.
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>>13646566
>He was though,
He wasn't dumbfuck since Touma confirmed it himself by the end of the show its never concluded as to what Apollo is and that the Aquarion itself was Apollonius hence why Touma would eagerly sacrifice himself if it meant being one with Apollonius but this was retconed in EVOL.
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>>13646222
>Logos is Tamers
Except people actually liked Tamers and acknowledge its existence.
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>>13652797
>The second half is a pretty solid better-than-average character show.
Not really. Its a character show but the only interesting character is Subete, Akira is dull as dirt and Maia is a literal waifu personalification with no actual personality rest of the cast is irrelevant.
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>>13652797
>They are trying to break down the things that LOGOS actually did right
Did what right? There's a reason why this show is a failure. What's funny is that LOGOSfags will always blame its failure on EVOL despite the fact that it was successful and more people would remember it. The show severely lacks appeal and the people who like it will deny it much like people who like M3 and Argevollen deny that it has problems as well.
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>>13653008
>I don't know how you can argue against the QUALITY, CG integration, and fight choreography.
They were well done
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>>13646566
He wasn't, in show he was never stated to be Apollonius this fag>>13646128 is lying out his ass.

Cool lie bro, Pollon was one of the original plans and there's even hints throughout Sousei that shows it as such, he was never suppose to be Apollonius.
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>>13653074
>>13652876
>>13646145
Wow...this anon was right>>13646145
you fags are pathetic.
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>>13653080
>>13653037
> Post-show interviews and authors lie, I am right
Alright.
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>>13653037
>and that the Aquarion itself was Apollonius
Not true, Aquarion is only Apollonius' wings, not his entire body.
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>>13653068
Not a big fan of quiet underrated shows huh?
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>>13653080
Stop trying this hard, anyone can rewatch the show and see with their own eyes that Touma calls Apollo 'Apollonius' several times.
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>>13653068
That's nice and all, but the reason why most people remember Evol is because it was a huge pile of shit that made no sense, had retarded plot twists, shit characters and shit plot. I would hardly call that a success, unless sales = success to you.
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>>13653927
>>13653068
Aquarion as a franchise is a failure and everyone keeps wondering why is Kawamori still making more Aquarion sequels. This is like comparing one kind of shit to another: both are shit, and that's it.

But if we really have to go there, then let's be honest: EVOL had much more people watching it during its airing time than Logos ever had, putting trainwreck and shit writing aside. It had to do something right over Logos if more than 5 people bothered to watch it to the end. Logos? The onl thing people notice are the horrible character designs, the lackluster soundtrack and that for some reason, it has nothing to do with Sousei.

> inb4 b-but it gets fun after 2467932 episodes!
Just because you're willing to watch more than 5 episodes for it to get fun doesn't mean everyone else has to. Not everyone is up to waste time until a show decides to get entertaining.

Also, blaming its unpopularity on EVOL's failure is a shitty excuse only blind fanboys actually believe. Sousei was mediocre and no one cared about it besides the OP song, if it was by this reason, EVOL shouldn't had many people watching it as it did. But guess what? Even for the trainwreck it was, it had amazing character designs, good soundtrack, good-looking mecha, and most importantly: it managed to be fun for its first half, which hooked up even people who knew nothing of Aquarion. Logos never got to achieve any of this.

In short, Logos is unpopular and its is own fault for being not very good as a show. If it caters to your tastes and you enjoyed it, that's great, but saying it's underrated is bullshit. It gets all the attention it deserves, which is nothing.
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>>13653994

God damn, you're really mad.
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>>13654003
Cool reply.
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>>13653994
>In short, Logos is unpopular and its is own fault for being not very good as a show.
That's a big pile of bullshit, popularity and quality are completely unrelated. Exodus is without any doubt the best mecha anime in years but no one in the West is watching it. Meanwhile, shit like Aldnoah Zero was immensely popular.

But anyways, in the end you'll find people who enjoyed Logos and Sousei and had a good time watching them despite their flaws. On the other hand, no one likes Evol.
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>>13653927
>it was a huge pile of shit that made no sense, had retarded plot twists, shit characters and shit plot.
Are we talking about EVOL, Sousei or LOGOS?
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>>13654101
Can't be Logos, it actually made sense.
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>>13654096
>suffering porn
>best anything

Ayy you there lmao
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>>13654108
Sousei made sense too until Evol retconned it.
>hurr durr Touma is super in love with Apollonius but he never noticed that Apollo was a fucking dog and not his husband
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>>13654096
>Aldnoah Zero
>immensely popular
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>>13654114
No it continues to make sense.

He always wanted the dog knot.
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>>13654108
>LOGOS
>make sense

You fags are the new M3 fanbase.
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>>13654126
No, that's Exodus.
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>>13654126
Care to explain or are you just going to call names?
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>>13654096
>Aldnoah Zero was immensely popular.
And Exodus sold more than both seasons.
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>>13654132
>bad show outsells worse show

Wooooow.
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>>13653994
Serious question here, are you watching Logos?
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>>13654140
>bad show

Here's your reply
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>>13654121
Immensely is a bit of an exaggeration, but it was still easily the most popular mecha in the last few years.

Popular in this case meaning a ton of people watched it, not that it was well received.
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>>13654126

Hey! don't bully us! We're a persecuted minority!
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>>13654145
>wifebeater writing
>good

Ubukata more like Ubukuso.
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I'm still having a hard time understanding why little talked about shows could make someone so butthurt? You do this about Kotetsushin Jeeg, Heroic Age, and Soukou No Strain too?

>No, no, no! This show has flaws, there for it's shit, therefore you are shit, now stop talking about this shit show! Not a whole lot of people talk about it for a reason.

Yeah Logos had it's flaws, but compared to other not talked about shows, like say Comet Lucifer, Logos was okay.
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>>13654096
>popularity and quality are completely unrelated
While I agree popularity doesn't directly translate to quality, is stupid to claim they are completely unrelated.

The Fool was an absolute boring piece of shit show, and the few people that watched it until the end liked it. Does it mean it was a good quality show? Hell no, just that it happened to cater to the tastes of a few fags. Same with EVOL, it ended awfully and everyone wants to forget about it, but still hooked up many people in its running time.

And really, a show that needs the fanbase to beg to other people to watch it past 3 episodes (this is already pathetic, no show should be boring in its first episodes no matter how "good" it gets later) AND on top of that still have a small audience can't be anything but outright bad.
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>>13654182
>No, no, no! This show has flaws, there for it's shit, therefore you are shit, now stop talking about this shit show! Not a whole lot of people talk about it for a reason.
Except no one has said that and that is not what they're arguing.
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>>13654204
>And really, a show that needs the fanbase to beg to other people to watch it past 3 episodes (this is already pathetic, no show should be boring in its first episodes no matter how "good" it gets later) AND on top of that still have a small audience can't be anything but outright bad

Gasaraki.
Just saying.

It's a bit more popular now than it was a few years ago but it's still a very low-penetration show around these parts.

Then again we don't beg for people to follow the three episode rule. We just hype up grain wars and shit.
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>>13654214
That's what the guy getting mad about m3, and Argevollen seems to be arguing
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>>13654220
>Gasaraki.
Literally who?
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>>13654239
> people say the show I claim is amazing is actually bad
> it means I can't discuss it or like it! Bunch of meanies!
Does the concept of things you like =/= things that are good is too hard to grasp for you?
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>>13654241
Gasaraki.
Yknow?
Gasaraki?
With the grain economics?
The one with the bald naked space men ending?

Well I have only myself to blame for walking into this one.
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>>13654204
Your lose, mate. There are some great shows with mediocre/bad first episodes.
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>>13654253
And let's not forget that things you dislike =/= things that are bad.
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To be fair, a lot of shows aren't really advertised well.
Part of why certain shows got popular despite having plenty of flaws is down to the hype they got before they aired. See: A/Z, AoT, etc.
Said hype helps people to continue watching even if the first few episodes were boring as fuck(and even if the show is bad).

Evol had hype behind it. And then the second half happened and people here kept watching only to see how it will burn.
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>>13654204
>The Fool was an absolute boring piece of shit show
Incorrect that was the anime of the decade
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>>13654253
Except he's arguing its because those people like those shows, that mean the shows are bad. Of course I'm going to have problem with that argument, since it's disingenuous. The closest he's come to an actual criticism of shows themselves, is to say they have problems, but once again he turns it around purely to just bash the fanbase again claiming they won't admit the show's problems. (From what I've seen of these threads, people do admit them. The character designs were mocked since day one, people frequently dis the music, cgi, etc.) I didn't really go into M3 or Argevollen threads, but knowing how /m/ insults everything, I'm pretty sure they know their show's faults as well.

I find it funny that you think I'm defending any of these shows (I'm not. Never seen M3, Dropped argevollen, and only seen a few eps of Logos) when all I'm doing is mocking a shoddy, poorly made argument.

I fully stand by
>No, no, no! This show has flaws, there for it's shit, therefore you are shit, now stop talking about this shit show! Not a whole lot of people talk about it for a reason.
That's his argument. And it makes no fucking sense. The show has problems, the shows problems are the fault of the fans, and the fans are shit, the show is show, and people should stop liking it since the show has shit fans. It's chicken/egg shit.

A shit fanbase doesn't automatically mean the the show is shit.
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>>13654220
>Gasaraki
Bad example. Since even people who liked it admits that there's nothing much to it beyond MUH REALISM.
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>>13654281
That isn't an excuse. Logos had a lot of advertising before its airing, too.
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>>13654259
>There are some great shows with mediocre/bad first episodes.
Whether something is great or not is your own opinion, and even then there's a line. I'm talking about shows that are largely ignored like Logos.
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>>13654327
>not liking mystical bullshit juxtaposed with then-contemporary events, with significant inspiration taken from Noh in regards to structuring

There's a bit more to the show than grit.
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>>13654309
>because those people like those shows, that mean the shows are bad.
>That's his argument. And it makes no fucking sense
>I find it funny that you think I'm defending any of these shows
No one has said that.

>claiming they won't admit the show's problems.
>From what I've seen of these threads, people do admit them
Yeah, no >>13653074 >>13652876

> and only seen a few eps of Logos
Why are you here, then?
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>>13654239
> Argevollen
Wasn't that the show that was practically made for /m/? Grunts that actually did stuff, infantry being important, etc.
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>>13654368
Ironically enough people hated that aspect of the show.
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>>13654371
And those guys saying the show is perfect were replying to people who were saying that Logos has problems. But keep telling yourself that no one is aware of the Logos flaws.
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>>13654404
> The closest he's come to an actual criticism of shows themselves, is to say they have problems, but once again he turns it around purely to just bash the fanbase again claiming they won't admit the show's problems. (From what I've seen of these threads, people do admit them. The character designs were mocked since day one, people frequently dis the music, cgi, etc.)
>And those guys saying the show is perfect were replying to people who were saying that Logos has problems.

There are people that are doing exactly that. What are you even arguing anymore?
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>>13654343
>Logos had a lot of advertising before its airing
Can you back this up, because I didn't see shit for logos before its airing. It just showed up on the Season chart, and was tacked on to the Sousei-EVOL ova announcement, then everyone said the character designs were crap.
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>>13654433
I remember an announcement for a 10th anniversary project, them revealing the trailer, character designs, May'n involvement, airing date, etc a few months before it started airing during AnimeJapan, then almost nothing until it actually started.

There was no real hype and I don't remember any particular effort to try to generate it either.
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Anyway, while you guys argue about shit, I'll just point out something I realised.

Yamaidare Darlin's lyrics is really Logos-ish.
>The moment when I realised the character for "Love"
>Looks like the one for "Sorrow"

>With the magic period that turns the character for "Water" to "Ice"
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>>13654459
>Love
Do you mean Evol???
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>>13654459
Well, Yoko Kano wrote that, it's to be expected that it was related in some way or another.
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>>13644966
>EVOL manga
Is this still ongoing? Any other interesting tidbits there?
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>>13653994
Macross Frontier is one of the reasons more people watched EVOL. Also EVOL promoting shipping faggotry much harder than any other Aquarion show meant that more retards would follow it until the end.
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Subete, Akira, and Maia carried the show. Good side characters too.
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>>13655175
Ended last year or something, 5 volumes. There were scans for the first chapter but no one bothered further than that.

IIRC Zessica turns into a man when Mykage possesses her, Amata helped a lost Mikono to find Cayenne when she was a kid, most of Kagura's scenes got axed and he's just a background character, Zessica goes on a date with Amata and gets more scenes with him, and they included all the retcons in the show since the beginning (like making Izumo talk about his kid since the beginning). And the comparisons between Mikono and Alicia are more blatant. Also, most mecha scenes got cut or are extremely short. That aside, is the same shit.

The art is fine I guess, but everyone looks like monkeys. It was published in a josei magazine and done by a yaoi mangaka, she said she liked Zessica over Mikono too and even had her as her twitter avatar for a while.
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>>13655602

You know, the genderswap-to-men universe freaked me out quite a bit, how that chick lost her memory when she became a dude. That's scary, being overwritten like that.

Also genderswap is more fun when they're aware of it.

I would have loved an episode of logos where they corrupted the word for sex and everyone swapped genders though and commented on it. Imagine girl tsutomu.
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>>13655639
> Tsutomu just rolls with it and acts like the girliest girl ever
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>>13655639
>>13656078
Oh yeah, and Hayato would act pissed about it but then the rest would stumble across him pretending to be his favorite idol in a dressing room.
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>>13656109
>>13656078
>>13655639

>Akira is identical
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>>13656986
Of course he would, for he—I mean, she is a savior!
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>>13655556
Akira and Maia have to be the most entertaining and tolerable couple in forever.
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>>13655556
Subete was annoying until he finally realized just how annoying he actually was.
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>>13657109
Can't deny this one.
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>>13653086
>Wow...this anon was right>>13646145 (You)
>you fags are pathetic.

I like LOGOS, though?
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>>13657356
>Neo Ranga

it makes me happy that someone mentioned that

that was a weird ass show
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>>13657356
I don't know why I laughed at Kamen Rider Wizard.
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>>13654182
I fucking wish people would talk about Soukou no Strain here, I think you're the first person to reference that show here this whole year
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>>13658917
There was a thread earlier this year. I went out pretty quickly, though.
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>>13658697
He is the final hope. Also he kicked a monster into the sun, a feat even Decade didn't show off.
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Final episode tomorrow!
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>>13659967
Can Akira save Christmas from Fafner's despair?
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>>13659967
Logos never ends!
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>>13659967
>inb4 Satelight ruins Christmas
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>>13659967

Thanks for the reminder, I'll unfollow this thread and try to avoid spoilers until subs hit.
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>>13654450
>There was no real hype and I don't remember any particular effort to try to generate it either.
There were magazine scans and merchandise promoting it, and the whole point of the crossover special was to promote Logos. And if the event to promote it during anime expo wasn't enough for you, I don't know what it is.
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>>13660860
> Make a crossover special to promote a new series
> The special has nothing to do with the new series
What was even the point other than fanservice for Sousei/EVOL fans?
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I will miss milk man, meme man, qsenshi-kun, bizon, zessica, and the loli.
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>>13660930
No Shoko, Kokone, or former-secretary-who-acts-a-third-of-her-age?
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>>13660994
I will miss the Shirei (commander lady with purple hair) and Subete's dad.
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>>13653041
No people didn't like Tamers until much later on.
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>>13662318
>people didn't like Tamers until much later on
>Had a better ratings average than 02
>Merchandise also sold well
>later

It was liked from out of the gate, also still gets merchandise released to this day along with Adventure.
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>>13662326
I should be more specific, westerners didn't like Tamers until like about 5 years, ago at which point they also started hating 02 upon realizing that it was in fact 02's fault that things went to shit to begin with and the reason why other digimon series take place in other worlds.
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>>13662344
>westerners
Really?
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>>13662353
Well I mean everyone outside of Asia so yes, Westerners.
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I posted in the wrong thread, fuck.

>Akira and Subete start fighting
>friends and comrades cheering him on to win
>Akira closes the communication channel cause he doesn't need their help

My sides
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>>13663501

well I can imagine that shit is more distracting than encouraging
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>>13662318
Tamers was immediately so beloved that if you went anywhere near the Digimon fandom for damn near a decade it was an endless Tamers circlejerk. It's only recently that you can even talk about any other season.
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so how'd the show end
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>>13663993
Like how it began....with a whimper.
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>>13664024

yeah but after the last series ending on a rage inducing note a whimper sounds downright enticing
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Did Maia and Akira end up together?

That's the only thing that matters.
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>>13664412

Finally an Aquarion with a happy ending
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I like the ending, but the final fight was way too similar to scryed last battle and i dunno if i should be mad or happy about that
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I have no idea whats going on
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>>13663578
You'd do the same as Akira.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq9DiK5bvhk
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>>13663629
>muh tamers
>every thread
Got terrible fast. And I love Tamers.
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Oh my god this shit is amazing
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Fuck those delayed subs.
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okay I saw the screenshots posted and was expecting the Ghosbusters parody.

I was not however expecting them to do the actual theme music diagetically
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>>13663501
Banjo would be proud.
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>>13668409
Have fun.

Logos is fun.
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>catching up with a friend
>ep 21
>"it hurts"
>"i can't smile at all"
completely agree ;_;
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>Akira had a Tendou moment at the end
This truly was Aquarion Kabuto
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>>13664444
Both previous series also had happy endings
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>>13668700
Apollo dying to save the world was more bittersweet
Amata winning Mikono is happy, but barely worth mentioning given the shitshow
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>>13668835
>Amata winning Mikono

if you call that winning
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I like Commander Cake
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So I am rather enjoying the show but it's, for want of a better term, really goddamn Japanese.

Im not having any issue following it but I really can't help but feel a lot of this kanji shit is flying over my head and Im not getting as much as the show wants me to get out of all of this
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>>13669270
>feel a lot of this kanji shit is flying over my head
Not much.

The meanings of the words are translated, the rest is just the whole moving parts of a word to form another word thing which should be fairly easy to understand.
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I'm glad that this aquarion follow the MotW till the very end, i miss a lot those type of mecha
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Awww.

The ending made me smile.

What a lovely show.
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>>13668835
>Amata winning Mikono is happy, but barely worth mentioning given the shitshow
I find it worth mentioning and found EVOL as awesome.
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>>13662344
The fuck? I stopped caring about Digimon right after Savers aired and Tamers was already the most loved season by that point.
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>Have 2 giant robots fighting in the air
>Civilians are just standing there and watching
>"Isn't this kind of amazing?"
These civilians are 10/10
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Lemme guess, the staff having fun here and leaving their signatures?
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i like the ending it was cosy. i hope they do an ova because there still a unrevealed aquarion on the logos main site
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Very satisfying ending. I still kinda wish it had a more direct connection to previous Aquarions but I guess being more stand alone works for the better here.
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So in the end there wasn't any reincarnation bullshit
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>>13670727
Well there sort of was but it wasn't the backbone of the central romance. In fact the main pairing goes against reincarnation romance.
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>>13670727
There was, but just involving a new backstory, completely unrelated to the original Aquarion. Also, the main character wasn't part of the reincarnation cycle.
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>>13670354
I wonder, I think that's just a space left over because they had 15 Aquarions and two rows of 8.
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>>13670850
that is a possibility, but the last two remaining vectors haven't made a gattai with each other so, maybe they're reserving it for something else
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Very nice ending. It's too bad that everyone that's not Akira or Subete were mostly forgotten but miles better than the retardation of EVOL.
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>>13670727
Keeping the previous shows at bay is one of the reasons Logos was so neat.
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>>13671027
It was also one of the reasons nobody gave a shit about it and why it bombed.
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>>13671062
Not that it matters much, since the pachinkos are the franchise's primary source of income.
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>>13671062
it also had an horrible animation style and almost no music power up moment
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>>13664920
Your first Aquarion?
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>>13671205

yeah, Im liking the show so far but the lack of hype ass Akino moments is really a downer
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that said it's not with out it's hype moments and the over all sound track is pretty phenomenal

WE ARE THE SAVIORS!

was great
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meant to post a picture
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also I LOVE all the absurd and crazy gattai combinations
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Overall this was a pretty chill, funny show. I liked that it held off on the drama and instead made things bizarre and silly with MotW enemies and sympathetic villains.

It's not like old Aquarion, but it's good on its own merits.
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>>13668700
> EVOL
> Fudo gets away with everything
> Mikono wins by doing absolutely nothing (doesn't even get to choose who she wants to be with)
> Kagura gets killed and replaced by a defective clone
> Zessica thousand-miles stare
> forced shipping
> dog knots
> happy ending
Only if you're Kawamori.
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>>13672102
>but it's good on its own merits.
>shitty animation
>shitty character designs
>Boring as fuck

Why do I feel that the only people praising it are people who hated EVOL?
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>>13672652
It's like the concept of people thinking something you don't like isn't shitty is completely foreign and incomprehensible.
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>>13672652

Well if you liked EVOL I don't know what to tell you.
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>>13672652
I liked EVOL but Logos is a lot better. Also it isn't boring, EVOL is much more boring by comparison.
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>>13672770
>Also it isn't boring, EVOL is much more boring by comparison.
The delusion is real
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>>13672770
Don't confuse boring with irritating.
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>>13672618
Sounds like a happy end to me
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Maia is best Aqua girl.
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What a great finale
Best Aquarion
Subete destroyer of memes the real savior of anime.
Thank you Kawamori
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>>13671611
>what is episode 25
I liked that they saved Akino until it was right constant usage just makes it less special.
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>>13673309

I don't disagree on principle but it also wouldn't be wrong to say that Akino is as important to Aquarion as the concept of Gattaiing itself
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I AM THE CHEESE! I AM THE BEST CHARACTER ON THIS SHOW! I AM BETTER THAN THE BOLOGNA AND SALAMI COMBINED!
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Fuck ;_;
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>>13673304
I really like how Subete "steals the show." When the show is called Aquarion Logos, you don't expect the Logos to be the antagonist's weapon. But it fits right into the end where the savior and creator of a new legend isn't akira and the DEAVA, but Subete and the Logos.

And that saviorblocking is okay because Subete became a more appealing character by the time S2 rolled around.
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>>13672780
Logos is never boring. Meanwhile EVOL seems to constantly forget it's supposed to be an Aquarion show where silly things are supposed to happen and fall back to boring shit before it remembers it's an Aquarion show where silly things are supposed to happen and it returns to being fun.
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>>13673782
>Logos is never boring.
I'm afraid this opinion is a minority.
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>>13673808
I'm afraid I don't care
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>>13673831
Whether you care or not doesn't change the fact that many people disagree with your claim given the little fanfare this show has been given, so yeah many thought this shit was boring.
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Soundtrack where?
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>>13673848
I'm still failing to see why it matters whether "many" thought Logos was boring or not. Are you trying to argue it's boring because "the majority says so"? Argumentum ad populum is fallacious.
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>>13672652
Because EVOL was godawful.
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>>13673278

http://strawpoll.me/6373360
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http://strawpoll.me/6373360
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>>13673304
>Thank you Kawamori
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>>13673309
>I liked that they saved Akino until it was right
>constant usage just makes it less special
This. I wish they could have made a better use of the OST though, only very few episodes used the tracks effectively.
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>>13673871
You're saying LOGOS was never boring if this was the case then it would have garnered more discussion and fanfare than what it recieved.
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>>13673877
Where the Reika option?
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>>13673654
Logos is the deconstruction of Aquarion we needed.
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>>13673871
>Are you trying to argue it's boring because "the majority says so"?
As oppose to your "its not because I say so? His argument has a lot more leverage than yours.
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>>13673782
>Logos is never boring
I like the show but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't utterly flat and boring half of the time. EVOL commits the sin of being both boring and aggravating during most of its second cour. I can't imagine how fuck awful EVOL would be without the mindless insert song spam though.
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>>13672652
That's pretty much the case. Most everyone thought it was incredibly meh but unless you had a huge hateboner for EVOL it didn't sway opinions.
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So who made this?
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>>13673309
It wasn't special when they used it either.
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>>13673907
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>>13673910
This. In fact it just felt random since the show had been devoid of direct references to the previous installments that it almost felt that they just inserted it randomly.
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Really? REALLY? That's what you're going with? The bloody rabbit was more threatening looking?
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>>13673929
Pretty sure they were aiming for silly, not threatening.
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>>13673895
What do you want me to do, painstakingly describe separately how each of the 26 episodes of Aquarion Logos are extremely fun to watch?

Saying it's "boring because the majority says so" isn't an argument with leverage at all. If you think it's boring, why do you think it's boring? I was able to explain why I think EVOL was more boring.
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>>13673893

http://strawpoll.me/6366835

Reika who?
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>>13673949

>I was able to explain why I think EVOL was more boring.
Well actually you didn't.
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>>13673948

Look Im just saying if my hated enemy is coming at me in Mecha Centaur Im gonna want to have a go at him in something better than retarded bob sled
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>>13673782
That doesn't make fucking sense. LOGOS was fucking boring due to how mundane the antics were and bland the characters were, EVOL was more in line with Sousei, which was also tonally all over the place so to say its not Aquarion is hilarious in itself.
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s-CRY-ed/10 episode. I have to admit, the first half of the series was pretty terrible but the last few episodes made up for it. There's no way in hell Aquarion Logos is going to translate well into SRW though.
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>>13673972
You can't say Logos characters were bland and then pretend EVOL ones were not.
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>>13673983
>but the last few episodes made up for it
>anti-climatic final boss
>Last fight is just between the MC and rival
>a bunch of characters you don't care about montage
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>>13673983
There's no better ending than S-cry-ed ending.
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>>13673972
There's nothing mundane about the havoc the MJBK caused or the way they were dealt with. All the characters in Logos were lovable which isn't the case with EVOL.
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>>13674011
You guys truly are the new M3fags.
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>>13674011
>All the characters in Logos were lovable
Can't even muster up a reason to care about any of them, good to see I'm not alone in this regard.
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That love triangle was resolved cleanly and maturely.

Clearly this is a sign of the coming apocalypse
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>>13674071
>That love triangle was resolved cleanly and maturely.
>Was never even a love triangle since one of the girls stopped being revelent ages ago
>Was never actually handled since she just accepted that he'll never love her
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>>13674096
>>Was never actually handled since she just accepted that he'll never love her

puts it ahead of most
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and then there's this guy
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>>13674071
Subete prevented the apocalypse though.
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>>13673972
>EVOL was more in line with Sousei
I don't remember Sousei being a melodramatic angsty shitfest about a love triangle.
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>>13674046
Have a pity reply.
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>>13674056
You'll never be alone no matter what show you decide you don't care about any of the characters of. That's not really a fault of the show.

The only one that took a while longer to win us over I think was Kokone but even she did somewhere along her character arc.
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>>13674771
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>>13673972
>guys my mouth is talking with a ton of dialogue
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>>13673929
> Those engine noises when it charged at Deava
Wheelchair mode was great.
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I wonder how many vector combinations there are left undiscovered
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I enjoyed Logos quite a lot,imsure it could have used a bit more budget, but plot wise and concept wise was pretty solid and far from the piece of shit some people say it is,sometimes i get the feeling that people only want generic fights and action all the time, cause everything else its apparently way too complicated for them, also i hate when people are just hating a show because "where is my AKINO?" Logos had a solid OST except for the openings
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>>13676580

Ill be honest, I put it off for a long time because of that

Darling sort of grew on me though
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I need the Logos power level meme image, can someone post it again?

Why was it deleted in the first place anyway.
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>>13676015
I wanted to see the Vector-Ga/0 combination.

Other than that, best finale, arguably best Aquarion. I had low expectations for Logos going in, and at first it met them, but as it went on it got better and better with each passing week. Yurei Busters was the point at which it turned awesome and it never stopped being that way after that.
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