Muv-Luv

>>13630769
Reminder: Liz kills Senpai, Beatrice kills Iris, Theodore executes Liz himself and becomes a Neo Nazi terrorist.

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>>13630778
>Liz kills Senpai,
good job retarded word filter

>>13630785
And that is why I can't see Phams name without thinking of memes

>>13630769
>not using best girls in the OP
fuck you

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>>13630778
>Beatrice

No.

>>13630769
Liden was a mistake
Schwarzemarken was a mistake

>>13630778

>Beatrix kills Iris

She had the chance to do it at one point but refused to which bites her in the ass later.

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>>13630769

>>13631061
Is this just a Mig 23 or something else

>>13631091

I think it's Lise's MiG custom.

>>13631005

sleeping w/ ur mum was a mistake

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shut the fuck up and post Meiya

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>>13631176
Post the better version of Meiya, she deserves always the best.

>>13631061
>Surface tablets
age has money to burn after all?

What does Japanese audience think of Muv Luv these days? Old school but still interesting? Outdated and struggling for relevance? Past the point of decline?

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>>13631176
>>13631186
>artifacts

>>13631219
Surface Tablet, they have only one.

It's not really overpriced, considering it's way more powerful than most tablets and have far more uses for work ( I tried Maya once on a Surface Pro, and I was pretty impressed on how well it ran. Not so good with heavy scenes, but you could easily do any basic things, as long as it was not implying either too high polys, too much constraints, physical simulation or heavy rendering )

>>13631237
I can't really decide how âge release their art unfortunately.

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FUCK YOU
It end abruptly and the lack of budget is painfully apparent, but it was my favorite entry in the franchise overall

>>13631225
It's pretty much dead, and the esaku thread which used to be one of the most active threads on all of pink is now nothing but shitposting and people saying "look at the Kickstarter, the gaijin appreciate Muvluv more than you stupid japs" nonstop (I'm not even kidding).

>>13631286

Yeah, threads on Futaba have difficulty hitting 30 replies nowadays. and the 2ch Muv-Luv thread is exactly as you described. The Schwanken threads are still kinda alright. Filled with waifufaggotry, (especially for Irisdina) though.

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>>13631286
>>13631303
that's so fucking sad

>>13631303
Why are there separate ML and Schwaken threads?

>>13631286
>>13631303
Kek, SM is too good for them.

>>13631286
well to be fair they've been talking about ML way longer than the west

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>>13631310

Because there is. There's a general, and then they have sub threads for the spinoffs, like TE. The general mostly ends up acting as a containment board for all the shitposting while the real discussions ends up happening in the sub threads.

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>>13631303

They mostly seem to post Iris, Beato, and Liz from what I've seen (though there has been an uptick in Miraiposting)

>>13631336
This guy is putting that Sumika poster too shame

>>13631286
>>13631303
Doesn't mean the franchise is dead however. Alternative is always considered by japanese VN players as one of, if not THE, best VN of all times, and any news on anything ML related is heavily shared on social medias and gaming websites.

But between two news, discussions are kind of dead, yeah. They already discussed probably everything a lot of times ( Way more as we did, as they have direct access to all the ressources while we are always waiting for some translations ), so without new material, I understand why there is no activity.

The problem is that any ML fans already read TE or SM novels, so when a VN is out based on them, there is not much to discover except the few original routes. Any " new " entry for now is not as hyped as could be Alternative. And with Chronicles or TSFiA standing by for the new content, there is clearly not anything to be excited about.

I think the best way to get the franchise to live in glory again would be for âge to make an entirely new game, not based on anything already existing.

>>13631355
>if not THE,
That's White Album 2.

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>>13631343

>Miraiposting

I honestly don't know why it's a thing. She's cute, but she's such a minor character. You'd think if they'd get attached to anyone, it'd be ViVi.

>>13631355
>. They already discussed probably everything a lot of times
I was active on the esaku thread between the releases of the original and Alternative, and it was far more active back then when we had literally nothing to talk about than it is now.

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>>13631355

There's an uptick of good discussion whenever a new chapter of BiS get's released. Really, the Japs all knew the first VN would be a bust, and aren't too excited for the anime. It's the second VN that they're all holding their breaths for.

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>>13631259

Will you shoot her in the head to prove your worth to the revolution?

>>13631370
Damn seriously? Why?

>>13631406
Now that sound harsh still. I don't know.
She did everything for Theo right?

>>13631406
I will give her the bullet if you know what i mean.

>>13631408
It was just that good. It was so good that the 2ch erogamescape thread started throwing fits about how all the reviewers giving it 100 were obviously fake accounts wahhhhh (they do this all the time) and they made a script to remove new accounts and accounts that didn't have enough reviews and accounts that had suspicious reviews (like only very high and/or very low scores) and that only bumped its average up even higher. And then they threw more fits and grouped together to give it 0s, but even then it's still a 95 median 89 average.

Alternative is 93 median 88 average, so close, though.

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>>13631406
Did you?

>>13631425
All-time ranking
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/toukei_median.php?erogame=t&coterie=null

Alternative is third after WA2 and YU-NO, and tied with Chaos;child, but Chaos;child's score is derived from 14 reviews and can't be trusted (lol xbone).

Should be noted that Alternative has the third-highest greatest number of reviews after Fate and Cross + Channel though.

>>13631434
Also, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien is #6, tied with another game written by Maruto Fumiaki (the guy who wrote WA2) and Full Metal Daemon Muramasa, as well as both parts of Baldr Sky and Baldr Force (all with a 90 median)

>>13631425
Can I just watch the anime or the VN is required? Or both?
I was interested in WA1 because of Yoshinari's art, but when 2 dropped him a got mad so abandoned the idea. Seems like it's a generic romance story too, I don't see how it can be better than MLA or SM
Also the main girl soung like some mary sue.

>>13631406
>>13631414

Doesn't matter what she may have done for Theo in the past, she's a traitor now. I'd have Theo pull the trigger. Hell, I'd have Theo participate in some of the "interrogation" the rebels do on her if given the choic. Slut willingly follows possibly the most horribly evil person in all of Muv-Luv, betrayed Iris and the 666 getting them sent to the Stasi funhouse and even participated in some of the torture, killed Pham, and tried to kill Theo. I think her and her boss got off way too easy in the end.

>>13631449
WA2 is split into two parts and the anime only covers the first part which is the first 20% of the story.

And it's nothing like WA1 and isn't related to it at all.

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... in the mean time, shouldn't we change this & fit into SM?

>>13631510

Maybe. The only thing I see SM generate is crazy Irisfags and arguments over Beatrix.

>>13631536
when time goes by, more topic will be generate from SM later, be it small or big.

>>13631510
beatrix did nothing wrong and is best girl

>>13631477
Thanks, guess I'll try the anime at least

>>13631555

Beatrix a shit
A SHIT

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>>13631536

Why the fuck do the Irisfags hate Beatrix so much? I don't see Beatofags bashing Iris so much (other than saying she's a bit bland) but holy crap do the Irisfags have a raging hardon against Beatrix.

>>13631662
That's not true, I still like Beatrix, she just need a goddamn route.

>>13631662
Last thread, I saw the argument of " Your waifu wants to kill our waifu ", but thinking of it today, the reverse is true. Iris also wants to kill Beatrix.

They are probably just raging because they don't like Beatrix being the favorite character over here. I'm just ignoring them when they are bashing now, they don't even deserve any attention.

>>13631680

Pham and Annette are more likely to get routes than Beatrix.

Beato already has the prequel to be the heroine in anyways.

>>13631700
She still need a route in SM to redeem herself after what she did anyway.
I hope cookie will do it, there has to be a way.

>>13631685
>>13631662

I think it's because they have a tendency to be moralfags more than anything. If you notice, the running theme seemed to be "Beatrix is a sociopath" more than "Bitch tried to kill our waifu." I see the same shit happen in any series where a villainess is more popular than the heroine (take AkG for a particularly cancerous example). Also, there is a lot of jealousy. Iris doesn't get discussed as much as many of the other girls, and Beato just happens to be the biggest target (and a huge foil to Irisdina).

>>13631716

Why does she need to be redeemed?

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>>13631716
Believe in Cookie. I'm sure he won't abandon his best girl like that.

Though I don't see the need to redeem herself. Just having a route more close to her would be fine, no need for her to change her mind. I like her like that, she doesn't need to appear otherwise to like her more.

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>>13631743

Beatrix is his favorite gril.

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>>13631743
>>13631748

>>13631186
>>13631176
who's the artist?

>>13631771
Bou-sama.

It had to be Bou for the Best girls.

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>Not posting our great lord and saviour on his birthday.

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>>13631777

Bou's really improved since the old days.

>>13631808
I actually like his old works way more than anything. It has really a unique style to it.

Good thing he can always do it. But I like his new art as well of course, even if I personally think it's a little too generic, as are a lot of professional drawings today. But Bou really stays a one of a kind artist.

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>>13631808
>boots on the bed

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>>13631841

Girls are like presents; it's much more exciting when they let you unwrap them.

>>13631225
Well someone must be buying these fucking ports and goods. But they don't seem to have shit for relevance overall, nobody gives a fuck about Schwaken's anime.

Bakuon has twice as many twitter followers and that's a season away.

So, did anyone got download for Alternative Gun Hazard?

>>13631880
No

>>13631846

So does that mean that if I unravel Beatrix, I'll find a bloody turd?

>>13631685

>They are probably just raging because they don't like Beatrix being the favorite character over here.

I don't get it. Iris get's way more attention where it matters, Japan, so she gets the bulk of the publicity and fan art.

Give it a month, and Iris will likely to be the favorite over here too (she appeals more to the MAL, Animesuki, Crunchyroll and Reddit crowd) too, so I don't see why Beato's temporary number 1 status over in the West is such an affront them.

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there is a serious lack of best girl
we have to fix that

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>>13631981

>>13631974
I agree that this Iris vs Beatrix war distracted us from the only true Best Girl, but would she be ok with us bringing more waifuism in the /m/ threads ?

She certainly wouldn't want us to transform those threads into a /a/ waifu exhibit. She is humble enough to not need to draw attention to state that she is the best.

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>>13632008

You know, it's just going to get worse when the anime comes out. Iris and Beatrix are pretty much opposites, and their adversarial nature will encourage fans to take a side.

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>>13632033
like always

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>>13632033

Anime Beato isn't drop dead gorgeous like her VN/LN counterpart, and she likely isn't going to be getting many scenes, so I foresee Iris being waaaay more popular when the anime drops.

>>13631406
The revolution isn't looking much more worthy of my support than the establishment.

>>13631465
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge, bub.

>>13631726
Have you considered all the rotten things she must have on her rep list? I'd say she needs it rather direly. Regrettable that she apparently has no intention of cleaning up her act...

>>13631912
You mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIBNEx7wXtI?

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Will this toaster run all the Muv-Luv VNs?

>>13632088

>Regrettable that she apparently has no intention of cleaning up her act...

Yeah, it's because she's a SOCIOPATH. She is without conscience, without a moral guide. She is evil, and she does not care.

>>13632100
only a sith deals in absolutes

>>13632103

I always found that quote to be kinda stupid. Sith are crazy manipulative, which requires a modicum of finesse, something that an absolutist doesn't posses. And I see SM more as grey vs black. Iris and Theo aren't perfect, but Beatrix and her cohort are Nazi tier evil.

>>13632088

>Careful not to cut yourself on that edge, bub.

You didn't read the spoiler.

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>>13632089
This is what my SM box says

Though I'm sure you're fine for Extra & Unl

>>13632100
Master of the obvious.

>>13632120
Didn't I?

>>13632142

Oh, I though you were one of the dindu nuffins. It's OK to like Beatrix, but it doesn't change the fact that she's one of the top contenders for the "needs to die painfully" category as far as Muv-Luv is concerned. I think that even if she showed remorse like Iris, she'd still be too far in the hole to ever repent.

>>13632142

If you read the spoiler, than you know what Lise did, and why she deserves what she got in the end.

>>13631943
I think it's more people won't shut the fuck up about a character that barely even fucking appeared in the game that just came out let alone anything more than a couple people have anything to do with and just chuck spoilers all over the place to prove non-existent points.

>>13632508

Pretty much. Beatrix has less presence in the story than even that nameless Stasi chick that wanted to torture Katia. All the fawning is pretty stupid, and is probably done mostly by the people who haven't actually played the VN.

i read the light novel and i have a feeling the anime is gonna be chuuni as fuck

havent read the vn

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>tfw I could never remember my mother's birthday until I realized it was the same day as meiya's
akward

>>13632573

She'll show up in the second half, and everything she'll do will make you hate her even more. She's easily one of the most unlikable characters I've seen in a light novel.

>>13631808
Hello. Just clarifying, Utsugi Ryou/虚祇凉さん drew the Beatrix Dakimakura, not Bou.

has anyone uploaded schwarzesmarken ost to youtube?

>>13632580
>the anime is gonna be chuuni as fuck
And what do you mean by that?

>>13631726
>>13631743
>Why does she need to be redeemed?

You mean she don't need to? Really?

She doesn't need to change her mind (that would be the worst) but at least justify her actions a bit more, just being closer from her point of view would help a lot I think.

Why didn't the Stasi just tear down the wall themselves and escape to the West along with all the other ossies? Surely the situation is clearly untenable.

>>13632961
>Irisdina is the only one's that's not flustered/embarrassed
Who knew she'd be such a slut.

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>>13633115
Rather she's too pure to think there's anything lewd going on here

>>13633125
Well then she's just an idiot

>>13633144
but a useful one

>>13633146
That's true

>Imperial Royal Guard
Isn't this name a tautology? Why do they need to have both Imperial and Royal in the name?

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What if, just like three and a half years ago with Total Eclipse, when Schwarzesmarken starts airing we get some Wikia staff member seizing control of the wiki and turning it pink again?

So Irisfags are basically Sumikafags of SM?

>>13633316
No.

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>>13633307
that was great

>>13633316
Yes.

>>13633364
Sumika sure had a whole game for her right?
Please.

>>13633370
why so mad bro?

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>>13633370
>Sumika sure had a whole game for her right?
what was alternative?

>>13631680
Why do you want her to NTR Jurgen ?

>>13633438
but he is kill anon.

>>13633435
A game that had a good amount of other girls anyway.
Compared to SM where Beato appears in front of Theo for a gran total of.. once.

>>13633438
He is kill, and I'm not even saying the route should have any romantic elements

>>13633307
Anyone screenshotted what it looked like back then? You know, for posterity. All I remember was a beach background and lots of pink.

It got a lot of people upset at the time, but in hindsight it's appropriate to the atmosphere of much of Total Eclipse.

>>13633036
Oh yeah, I was thinking of " redeem " in the sense of having remorses or that kind of thing. She doesn't need that, as she know what she is doing and doesn't care about what people can think, but yeah, having a route where it covers more its intentions ( Even in the LN we don't have much informations besides the outlines of her plan ) could be for the better.

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>>13633316

Irisfags don't spam us with pics of their waifu, they just hate Beatrix.

>>13632133

Am I just being silly, or is there supplementary information on that box that actually suggests SM can be run on Windows 95?

>>13633733
It's says it's not guaranteed to run on the operating systems in the paranthesis.

>>13633708
That's because they still lack material for it.

>>13633952
Meanwhile Beatofags post the same few pics over and over again and I love it too

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>>13633973

Again, lack of material. tfw Iris is still going to get 80% of the art.

>>13634359
>real MiG
hottest thing in this image to be honest pham

>>13633307

Wikifag here. The current setup is easy on the eyes, but rather drab. I'd support experimenting with Extra's color scheme for the wiki, but not in the way LexiLexi did it.

Also, all those faggots talking about how Muv-Luv is a hardcore grimdark Starship Troopers inspired science fiction mecha epic tend to forget it's also filled with waifu baiting and romantic high jinks. Muv-Luv is "Tits and TSFs," as one poster put it in the last thread, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

>>13634701
Actually, there is a romance in Starship Troopers between Rico and Carmen. Though it's in no way as much important as the ones in Muv Luv of course.

>>13634701
>Also, all those faggots talking about how Muv-Luv is a hardcore grimdark Starship Troopers inspired science fiction mecha epic tend to forget it's also filled with waifu baiting and romantic high jinks.

That's part of the reason why I can't enjoy it. Unlimited and Alternative more or less work because of their relationship to Extra, but every spin-off is just completely unlikeable. On one hand there's this ultra grim billions are dead blood soaked alien survival thing, paired with a triumphal 'cool' giant robot top gun thing, paired with sub-par harem comedy hijinks. It's very hard to take it seriously when it wants to be taken seriously - and there are times when it wants to be taken very seriously - and the non-serious parts are abysmal.

Admittedly that's just how I feel about it, and I know a bunch of people who really get into it, and that's great. It's just a little hard to enjoy something which is so tonally all over the place.

>>13634812
>paired with sub-par harem comedy hijinks
Well at least, that's not how SM feels like. At all.

>>13634777

There's barely any romance in the book, which is what Muv-Luv borrows from.

>>13634812

SM barely has any harem antics or top gun shit. If this was any other show, you'd have Beatrix, Iris, and the rest of the girls all being attracted to Theo in some way, but instead, many of them have/had boyfriends already and are uninterested in the hero. Theo even kills/executes a couple of them rather brutally. The one Yuuya tier ace they have gets purged in the prequel too.

>>13634825
>>13634842

In that case I'll give it a shot.

>>13634812
That's why the original trilogy is so good. Extra, well it's Extra, Unlimited made up the " Good " side of the war with the BETA : When you don't see them, you are not really aware of how much the world is fucked, and then there is Alternative and its killing spree, cutting through all the normal things of life like humour.

But yeah, if TE is a total harem shit, SM is way more serious like Alternative was.

>>13634812
>>13634825
>>13634842

They're saving all the harem shit up for this: >>13631061

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>>13634855

I think that's one of the reasons I like BiS better. From what I've heard, it's more like Unlimited. It's incredibly dark, but it isn't so overt with it. Sure, it deals with the food shortages, nuclear warfare, refugees, and the initial BETA offensives wherein a third of humanity were killed, but it breaks it up with some levity and human elements. The characters occasionally discuss it, but they're much more likely to let themselves be distracted by personal issues, like how am I going to sneak my GF away from her chaperon to give her a kiss.

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With Total Eclipse we were getting magazine spreads and shit before the show aired, nothing like that this time?

>>13634956
SM is not really fan service oriented, except for some little scenes. I guess we will have much more of this type of art marketing for the possibly upcoming SM : Altered Fable, or an hypothetical BiS adaptation.

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>>13634956

We do, they just don't get scanned.

>>13634974

>no SM fanservice

Such a shame. SM has some of the most delicious designs to date.

>SM : Altered Fable
>BiS adaptation

How likely are those?

>>13634956
The anime's design aren't good enough for this kind of thing.

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>>13635025

Pretty much. The guys are looking good, but they screwed up half the grils (seriously, the bangs on many of them look terrible).

>>13635029
Steal is my body, and fired is my blood.

>>13635043

Which had the bigger step down character design wise when transferring to anime: TE or SM?

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>>13635091
I still liked him. I wish no one found out.

>>13635106
he did a good job of faking tasuku iizuki, who was probably the best artist to work on anything mub rub

>>13635164
I sure wish iizuki did more.

>>13634994
The SM : Altered Fable, well we have art leaks that point to it. Obviously they didn't made CG of them in bikinis or casual clothes for no reason, or not only for marketing at least. So it " will " probably end up being made. Maybe shipping with Chronicles 5 ?

For BiS VN, it's way more uncertain. My guess is that it will depends a lot on the SM VNs overall sales. Considering Beatrix is Cookie best girl after Yuuko though, I think that it will not request that much of good sales to have something. Maybe not a 20h VN with multiple routes, but I'm confident we will have something.

>>13635211

Wouldn't it depend as much on BiS's LN sales?

I certainly hope BiS gets a VN though. From what I've seen over in Moonweb, it's been better reviewed/received than SM so far (which had some pretty high reviews itself).

>>13635260
I don't really worry about the LN sales, they are always pretty high ( Not even talking about the Tech Gian issues highlighting it ).

That's why I'm confident we will get something. But will it be enough to have a real VN, I wonder. That's why I think the SM VN sales will get their word here.

>>13635260
> it's been better reviewed/received than SM so far
Of course it is, after all it has school girls instead of gross adult women!!

Goddamn those nips

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I'm seriously considering getting this and uploading it (buying a bunch of computer parts, so why not) just because no one else will:

http://www.amazon.com/Schwarzesmarken-Kokusho-Michibiku-Daichie-Special/dp/4047295876

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/4047306932/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP

>>13635320

From what I read on 2ch, it's because Jurg and Beato are much more interesting leads than Theo and Iris.

>>13635342
>From what I read on 2ch, it's because Jurg and Beato are much more interesting leads than Theo and Iris.

Sorry that sound just worse to me.
>Mary sues/stus characters are so much more interesting that grey and human characters! Right Onii-sama!
I knew SM was a miracle that won't last very long.

>>13635358
It's like the Star Wars prequels all over again.

>>13635358

Iris would be the closest to being a Mary Sue though (at least in BiS). She's insanely popular and effortlessly gets the best grades/wins competitions.

Even in SM, she's still a genius (she got top grad at the Air Academy), considered to be a hero (she's credited for being one of the major reasons why the Polish retreat didn't completely fold), extremely charismatic, and is the most morally upstanding and strong willed member in the cast (on top of looking like an angel).

>>13635358

The problem with LN Theo is that he's kinda unlikable. While this can work, it's difficult to pull of well for an MC. At the and of the day, you gotta make the audience interested in what happens to the character, and if he's unsympathetic, it's harder to make them care.

>>13635371

What'dya mean by that? Pretty sure no one was saying Anakin was better than Luke.

>>13635342
They are probably way more interesting leads, sure ( Though being more interesting than Iris and Theo is not that hard, as Iris is more or less ok even if the nearly Miss Pure and Perfect thing is killing her character, but Theo is hurting my brain anytime he is thinking/speaking of anything ).

But I will always prefer the complexity of all the characters in SM over BiS ( Even if it explains a lot of things and its story is interesting enough ).

>>13635428
I mean in the sense of "cool characters gets their backstory expanded on, turns out to destroy their mystique and make them seem flimsier than they're supposed to be". Then again, I may have gotten my comparison mixed up, so never mind.

>>13635521

But the picture we had of Beatrix before was that she was such an monstrous and irredeemable bitch that ate babies and shat evil. Her only motivation for torturing and murdering people was sadism and a petty grudge born from jealousy over Irisdina being a better pilot and being number one at the academy. She may have been a lesbian too, due to her obsession over Iris and interest in Katia and possibly raping Pham. She was an absolute cunt to everyone, and didn't give a shit for her men who she brainwashed into loyalty with help from Axmann.

Do you seriously like that characterization better than what we got now?

>>13635580

Some people still believe it because it's been repeated so much over the past two years (look at all the Irisfags in the last two threads or Friday's Muv-Luv thread over on /a/).

>>13632194
I'm fully aware of what transpired and of her involvement therein. Given that she's not exactly sound of mind after what she was subjected to over the course of her detainment and subsequently being "saved" by and therefore indebted to the major, then being all but forced to backstab the person she's closest to, I find her situation to be what could be adequately summed up as "no-win", so I really don't see how you proverbially moving your bowels all over her is reasonable.

>>13635423
The VN fix that

>>13635591

Yeah, I'd blame Beatrix for Lise's mental breakdown more than anybody else. Really, she's the one who should've been tied up and tortured. She get's what she deserves in the end though.

>>13635580
>She may have been a lesbian too.
>Implying that's bad

Oh wow, so you Irisfags are actually homophobic now. Getting worse every day.

Besides, that's only a fantasy of the japs, and you say it like it's nearly a fact. They just made up interpretations of what they wanted to see.

>>13635626

Read the whole statement. I'm not an Irisfag, but Beatrix being a "psycho lesbian rapist sadist" was something many believed/used to trash talk her.

>>13635611
Can't really argue against that. Doesn't make your attitude any less unsightly, though.

>>13635900

Someone needs to act as a counterweight for all the beating off going on over her. I'm just trying to remind people that Beatrix is an utter scumbag, just slightly behind Axmann on the repulsiveness scale. She's really nothing more than the most major physical threat to the MC and his love interest; a monster that must be slain in a final duel. Apart form her looks, she's not meant to be likable, sympathetic, or waifuable. The story wants you to hate her, and goes into quite a lot of detail to show why she's so abhorrent despite her gorgeousness like torturing Pham, Walter, and Sylwia or manipulating Lise to spy against her brother. That way, they won't be too crestfallen when the second VN rolls around and exposes her as the vile, evil person she is.

>>13635947

Yeah, it's stupid that alot of anons hate Theo because of the penetration. With each chapter, I fucking wanted Beatrix dead more and it felt good knowing that she wouldn't be able to hurt any more people after her grisly death.

how dare people on the internet have dissenting opinions

>>13636185

Welcome to a Schwarzesmarken thread; I hope you enjoy your stay.

>>13635164
He really didn't. Miyata's stuff was really generic in that sort of genre of game art Iizuki excels in.

>>13635172
If it makes you feel better xCation is going through Iizuki withdrawal now too.

>>13636185

Who are you replying too?

>>13636379
everyone

>>13636093
Good thing nobody will hurt any more people again as Europe doesn't exist anymore then.

>>13636777
Isn't England still around, though? I know one of the sidestories takes place at Dover Base there.

>>13636880
Yeah, but they don't have any real defense line. In 2001, it was a matter of time before the BETA cross the sea and invade it.

It didn't happened probably only because the Superior had others things to care about in Asia.

Even if each Hive can act on their own to a certain extent, I dunno if they can lead massive invasions without the Superior lead. It seems not, as each BETA " campaign " is happening one at a time instead of spreading massively in all directions at once.

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>>13636904
In 2001 they had just re-established an early warning defense line around the western end of Europe, with several bases offshore and away from the mainland. Dover is the rear-line main base in that Western-facing network while the EU forces are all bunched up in Europe and the North African coastlines waiting to jump on the regularly-scheduled culling operations on the European mainland, while warships circle the European coastlines regularly. Reggio Calabria is another frontline base and that one's smack connected to the actual continent via chokepoint land path.

Hives generally "invade" when their population per region spills over some as-of-yet-unspecified numerical limit. It's why the culling method is so successful at keeping full-scale invasions like the Japanese/British one from happening frequently. These specific invasion events happen when BETA spillovers from the inner continental Hives (that the frontline nations can't reach) join up with those on the frontlines at just the right time, like how avalanches happen. Note that outlier events exist, but these are very late in the timeline and is already well into the period of the Superior itself beginning to incorporate tactics gleaned from past experiences.

I know SM is some dark shit but let's not let personal headcanon take over, now. The EU is explicitly presented as recovering from the Defense of Britain and is actively putting a lid on BETA activity that spills out from the continent. "Don't have any real defense line" is another outright lie on the same level as that "some James Bond-tier villain and his hostage scheme caused the UN to abandon viral weapon testing" tripe some threads back.

Don't be that guy that propagates lies, Anon. It's not a good guy to be.

>>13637256
>all bunched up in Europe

*all bunched up in Britain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQtMEnMbEcE new UE4 game video

>>13637256
>Blabla Coastal Defense line and kindof fortresses

It's worthless and any massive attack from H12 or H08 would have got it to fall.

>but these are very late in the timeline and is already well into the period of the Superior itself beginning to incorporate tactics gleaned from past experiences.

Implying the Superior never had any effect on BETA global intelligence before it assimilated tactics in Sadogashima. Which is wrong.

>The EU is explicitly presented as recovering from the Defense of Britain and is actively putting a lid on BETA activity that spills out from the continent.

These are not massive attacks, just random forces.

Britain is about to be fucked and their little tentative to get a defense line up is worthless. If the BETA attacked on a large scale anytime before Operation Ouka, the island would have been lost whatever they were trying to do, face it.

It's really ONLY surviving after 2001 because of Operation Ouka, which kept BETA occupied in defense all over the continent and recover. The blow to the H01 prevent massive migration in one time and let them with only gradual spilling, which the EU remaining forces can handle, yeah. But remove Operation Ouka or even just its success ( And by so, basically any other successful operation following it ), and Britain would never have seen the EU reconquest in 2004.

Probably never would have the Wrangel Islands for what it's worth, which are one of the most fortified fortress-islands in the World.

>>13637309
Nice.

Man I hope the anime will use the game's OST, it's just too good
Even better if they more by the same guy

>>13637309
Finally a mecha game where you can fucking fly however you want? Bring it

Before TE aired we got a bunch of translated interviews and things from Type 94 guy on his blog, but we don't seem to be getting anything comparable for Schwarzesmarken. Have there not been any material to translate, or are there just not scans available?

>>13637521

No scans.

>>13637527
Japanese police crack down on chinese scanners or something?

>>13637576

The one guy doing all the scans/translations dropped off the internet right before BiS started. The rest of the Chinese are either too poor, don't have scanners, or don't care enough to rip up their magazines for us.

>>13637594
And type 94 blog guy is too poor to buy his own magazines?

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>>13637198

I guess I'll pick up Mana and Yui's Type 00-Rs when I'm in Tokyo in April.

I regretted not getting Mana's last year when I went.

>>13637907
What do you think? He's just an attention whore. The guy doesn't even understand Japanese, he was retranslating from Chinese translations and was still retarded enough to make outrageously ridiculous mistakes like the whole final TE BD will have an extra episode fiasco.

>>13638031

>retranslating from Chinese translations

That's what most of the SM/BiS spoilerfags have been doing.

>>13638047
Which is why their spoilers have all been garbage, remember when we the TE game was spoiled by someone who actually understood Japanese and it turned out the dumbass chinks had been outright contradicting it?

>>13638056

Yeah, even the Chinese dude over on the wiki (who does the BiS spoilers) admits that he's not a pro at Japanese.

>>13638073
Type 94 is still the worst of the lot, though. He makes ridiculous claims without sources, and when a moonspeaker on /m/ managed to find the supposed source he was using it turned out to have been saying the exact opposite: Kouki said on Twitter that the last BD would not have an extra episode because that would spoil the game, Type 94 claimed he said that the last BD would spoil the game with a new episode.

>>13638087

What do you think about those spoilers a couple of threads ago where the guy sourced all those 2ch threads to explain character motivations? Do those look legit?

>>13638143
This guy?

>>13602476

The linked threads aren't loading right now but the snippets posted seem to be discussing Beatrix prioritising mankind over East Germany matter-of-factly so that's probably true. The stuff about East Germany as a buffer, "freaking out", etc. isn't anywhere in the quoted posts, all it says is that she wants to "sacrifice East Germany to save mankind as a whole".

>13602476
>Iris was wrong.
Straight up lie, quoted post says Beatrix was "also" right, and then she "may" have been thinking of mankind as a whole more than Iris.

Seems like this guy is using a machine translation or something because he's getting a lot of stuff wrong and the stuff he quotes is cut off at weird spots.

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>>13635043

Also, their ankles look like they'd snap like twigs.

Riding boots =/= leather knee socks

>>13638256

I think he's extrapolating that from the what the Animesuki spoilerfag said about Beatrix's plans.

>>13638256

>spoilers wrong

Alright, cool. So Irisdina was right, and Beatrix is still a petty shitstain. We can go back to hating Beatrix and Beatrixfags then.

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>>13638256
The first and last quotes are actually exactly what is said.

I can't find the middle quote in either thread though.

>>13638312
Pic related.

>>13638305
>Animesuki
laughing heero dot jaypeg

>>13638256
So someone has a Beatrix agenda going on

>>13638256
Messed up the link,
>The linked threads aren't loading right now but the snippets posted seem to be discussing Beatrix prioritising mankind over East Germany matter-of-factly so that's probably true. The stuff about East Germany as a buffer, "freaking out", etc. isn't anywhere in the quoted posts, all it says is that she wants to "sacrifice East Germany to save mankind as a whole".
Is supposed to refer to >>13602471

>>13638321
>The first and last quotes are actually exactly what is said.
I have no idea what the hell you're trying to say.

>大体想像ついたよ テオ ドイツ>世界 ベア ドイツ<世界
>Theo: Germany>World Beato: Germany<World

This is the only part of both >>13602471 and
>>13602476 that isn't misquoting, paraphrasing heavily, or overflourished with details of dubious legitimacy. Everything else posted there is off one way or another.

>>13638312
>>13638326
The stuff being mentioned about her prioritising mankind over East Germany at least is seemingly true though.

>>13638341
Oh, and even then,

>>Theo: Germany>World Beato: Germany<World

That's just some random guy's prediction of how it's going to turn out to be (hence "大体想像ついた" = "I think I've got it"), not cold fact. It's linked to the bits in >>13602471 (ベアトリクスでさえ人類の勝利を願ってたわけで、マスターのあの行動が人類か東ドイツを救うための 行動だとしても驚かないな。) which are speculating about the Master (terrorist Theodore)'s motives.

Funny how that guy is copypasting speculation about Theodore and not actually mentioning it in that post, though.

>>13638351
>Funny how that guy is copypasting speculation about Theodore and not actually mentioning it in that post, though.
Now that I think about it, that probably makes sense if he's using a machine translation, because the first post quoted refers to him as a nickname ("Terrordore") and the second as "Master" which would probably throw off google translate or whatever.

>>13638351
The Beatrix thing of Germany < World is actually heavily implied in some conversations in the LN ( Volume 6 or 7, I don't remember )

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>>13638295

What do you expect from worse girl? Won't really matter much though, she'll probably only have five minutes of screen-time tops.

>>13638326

Notice how, before all the apologist started coming in, all the spoilers were very negative concerning Beatrix. For the past two years, everyone who read the LNs could agree that Beatrix was one of the most horrible people imaginable. Aside from her looks, she was designed by the author to be as hate-able as possible. And really, she only looked good at a superficial glance, like many sociopaths in the real world. There was absolutely nothing good at all about the woman, and she's EQUAL to Axmann in her depravity. Furthermore, at least Axmann had is "Live for yourself" philosophy compared to Beatrix who was doing it to sate her sadism and jealousy. Furthermore, it was Beatrix who was ultimately pulling Axmann's chains. The woman needed to die, more than anyone else, and her death wasn't a tragic event, but one of triumph. There's a reason why the characters were so happy when they learned of her demise. It's only in the past couple of months that there's been a concerted effort to reverse it, and it seems like it has worked to a certain extent. Before, you'd be laughed off for unironically saying Beatrix is mai waifu; now, it's the majority opinion.

>>13638388
The speculation is on Theodore's motives in TE, not on Beatrix's, which like I said before are being discussed matter-of-factly which kind of suggests that they've been fully established.

>>13638389
And here is the Irisfag.

>>13638388

It'd have to be Volume VII.

>>13638389
But Beatrix has logic on her side. East Germany is a communist shithole, and she wants to use it to save mankind. Meanwhile Irisdina wants to save East Germany because she's a raging SJW moralfag.

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>>13638403

It's OK you think Beatrix is hot, I do too. In fact, she's hotter than Iris, even if Iris is the better package. Just don't let her beauty blind you to what she really is, a cold blooded monster.

>>13638415

So you're saying that in her rebellion, Irisdina was actually more loyal to her people than Beatrix? That just shows that Beatrix, the government enforcer responsible for torturing and executing inumerable innocents, is also a hypocrite.

>>13638388

Yeah, it's implied, never stated. Beatrix could've just been trying to fuck with Theo though. It certainly doesn't seem to influence many of her actions/personality. This whole sacrificial thing for the good of mankind runs counter to everything else about her. At her heart, Beatrix is a very self-centered, sadistic, and power hungry individual. She wouldn't care about how something as amorphous as mankind, she doesn't really care about anything really except for herself.

If anyone would embody the sacrificial ethos, it'd be Iris who took a bullet for Kaita.

>>13638442
>Just don't let her beauty blind you to what she really is, a cold blooded monster.

Please stop thinking that everyone is like you and consider her a monster. And posting the same posts over and over in each threads. It will be good for their overall healthiness.

Your trash talk was fun for the first days, but now it's just boring.

>>13638487
The sole fact that Beatrix is the best girl of Cookie just after Yuuko should be enough to let you know that she's more than that.

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>>13638502

>everyone is like you and consider her a monster

Everyone did up until a few months ago.

>>13638516

The proof for that is flimsy; built on inference and coincidence. We don't know who Kouki's favorite is until he states it. He could absolutely detest Beatrix for all you know.

For favorite girl, I'd argue it's Katia though. It was her he decided to adorn on his car, not Iris of Beatrix.

>>13638531
>He could absolutely detest Beatrix for all you know.
>Voting for her everytime she is in a poll where Yuuko is not

Yeah, sure.

>>13638531
Another car?
Using dat Kikestarter money well I see

>>13638535

And you don't have proof. We've already established that there's a bad actor with a pro Beatrix agenda. How do you know he's not misinterpreting or lying about it?

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>>13638554

The Schwarzeswagon was from before the kickstarter.

>>13638556
Do you even understand japanese, at least a little ?

He says it himself in each live involving a poll you fuck.

>>13638567
It's Schwarzeswagen, mein schweinhund.

>>13638622

Danke.

>>13638584

>understand japanese

So you?

It seems like you're parroting what was said by some previous anons in the last couple of threads. Just because he voted for Beatrix in the Birthday poll, does not make her his favorite; it just makes her the one he liked more than the other choices on that particular poll. As for the other poll, we don't know who he voted for in the SM daki poll.

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>>13638646
>So you?

Oh for fuck sake, it's you also ? The one who is ALWAYS saying " So you ? " anytime I tell you " Do you even speak japanese ? " when you are obviously taking your infos from somewhere else than their source ?

For the 100 time, YES, YES, I speak japanese, and as I said to you all these times, I'm not fluent but I can easily understand a conversation.

Why am I even talking to you anymore. Now I know there is only one Irisfag, and that you are a huge faggot on top of that. So go kindly fuck yourself.

>>13638689

Oh, so you're that guy. I'm still skeptical, but whatever. Like I said, it has only been recently where I've started to hear about Beatrix having any good qualities, so I'm very distrustful of these new spoilers, especially when the spoilerfag apparently has an agenda.

I guess I'll go back to /a/ though. Their discussion is no where near as dynamic, but at least they're all rooting for Iris. I just hope you guys aren't too disappointed when the anime and VN show what Beatrix is really like.

>>13638689

>only ONE Irisfag

There's like three or four of em.

http://strawpoll.me/5996505/r
https://strawpoll.me/6232654/r

>>13638689

I just have one question, is Beatrix's penetration illustrated.

>>13638689
>Now I know there is only one Irisfag
Please.
And I don't even hate Beato.

>>13638415

>Iris
>Christfag
>slight racism and racist jokes
>SJW moralfag

Iris is definitely not progressive bro.

>>13638740
>>13638723
I was talking about the one who is always posting Iris images with a medium text trashing Beatrix.

>>13638728
If you are talking about seeing Beatrix body destroyed, then no.

I'm not at home right now ( Working far far away ), but as soon as I get back there ( Probably in late January ), I can scan the latest volumes ( 6/7 ) for all the art ( Maybe the text too ) if you want.

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>>13638823
>>13638728

The most you get is pic related. I don't even remember if even goes into detail describing what the knife does too her, just Theo stabbing the cockpit and then her final words. Kinda like how Lise's wingwoman got bisected by Annete.

Also, it's kinda bizarre that she could survive a CIWS, even if it was just long enough to spit out her last words.

>>13638823

>I can scan the latest volumes ( 6/7 ) for all the art ( Maybe the text too ) if you want.

Don't break my heart anon.

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>>13638389

Actually, pretty much all the released sketches had the crappy boots, including Irisdina. Not really exclusive to her.

The design sketches aren't great. Oh well.

>>13638901
>This art
Just

>>13638908

Iris is one of the few designs I actually liked. She looks like shit in motion though.

>>13638855
>Also, it's kinda bizarre that she could survive a CIWS, even if it was just long enough to spit out her last words.

Yeah, considering the size of a CIWS and the fact that he stabbed right in the cockpit, she should have been crushed.

And yes, there is not really details given on the penetration scene.

>>13638869
In which way ?

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>>13638922

We'll probably see it in the VN, considering they're much less afraid to show the gory shit. Still, Theo's knife has a shitton of girth to it, and Beatrix isn't exactly a huge girl. Even if he caught her in the stomach with the tip, that still should've been instantaneous death.

The lack of details is weird. Even Faruka, or whatever her name was (Lise's wingman), got a scene of freaking out as Annete's blade sliced into her, and then a description of the aftermath (Annete sees a ton of blood running out of the cockpit and get's sick)

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Jesus fucking Christ, SM has completely ruined these threads.

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>>13637322
It is still not "no real defense line" though. Your personal interpretation of what makes a strong front doesn't change that the EU front in 2001 is strong by any other standard in the world at that time.

Yes, they're random forces. We agree on that point, at least. While any concerted attack would guarantee its downfall, that's been the norm since 1974. It is also not really the minimum measuring notch on the stick. The notch is that they're able to repel the normal-sized incursions. You do remember that human forces shifted their estimation of BETA per Hive region after Sado and realized they were off by their estimates about two times under the actual count? How would they even prepare for a concerted attack if they didn't even have a basic network in place?

Yokohama Hive is the earliest attempt of the Superior at using strategies against humans. After the G-bomb drops, remaining BETA fled to Sado and Cheorwon instead of attempting to fight to the end. After the Yokohama attack in Alternative, the BETA are found to have used pre-dug tunnels from Sado that far outstripped the range expected of a typical Phase 4 Hive; Takeru surmises that they used the same thing to do their Nigata attack in UL, which, if you recall, dodged IJ attempts to intercept it while heading towards Yokohama Base. I said "beginning to incorporate tactics gleaned from past experiences" to include these points but you skipped past them anyways.

A prevalent theme going on in the settings is how humanity is revealed to be way over its head in the end. By your standards, there is no defense line in the world at all because Britain's situation is the same across the continent, all the way to Japan.

Before you 'roid out on me, understand that no, I am not saying they could have took back Europe without Ouka, but you made it sound like they had no defenses at all when that is, simply, not true.

>>13638976
In which side stories does the mirage 2000 appear?
It looks great

>>13638975

Blame the Irisdinafag.

Sides, what did you expect. It's always this way when something major happens.

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>>13638988

It's a picture from Cross Operation. Vol. 6, pg. 47. Hasn't appeared in sidestories (yet).

According to the book, the era of that picture is somewhere during Operation Neptune, so if we're lucky, perhaps the anime might show us these. I doubt so though, considering that they have yet to appear in the SM VN which has already reached Operation Neptune and both the anime and VN share TSF sprites.

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>>13639024
God damn it
Operation neptune was pretty good but I would have scream like a little girl if there was M2000s on top of the tomcats

>>13638975
when's TDA2?
Yuzuka best girl

>>13638975

more like it's ruined Muv-Luv, amirite?

>>13638976
>Yokohama Hive is the earliest attempt of the Superior at using strategies against humans.[...]I said "beginning to incorporate tactics gleaned from past experiences" to include these points but you skipped past them anyways.

And again, I'm not talking about the Superior using actual military strategies. I'm only saying that he already had influence on BETA globally, not to the point where they could do things like diversions, but just targeting something and saying " Move here, move there ". Really basic command kind of thing, nothing like a strategy, but which can " merge " several BETA forces into a massive one. Hence the massive attacks I'm talking about before Sadogashima and before the Superior is put down.

I think we kind of agree on the same things, but put different words to them. For me, the Britain defense line is " weak " in the sense that unlike Japan, the English Channel is way more smaller than the East China Sea, so a massive attack would hit them way more faster than one in Japan by the time they detect it, resulting in a less prepared overall defense. That's why I think that in the case of a massive attack ( ie. Merging several BETA forces ), Britain would most probably fall, when the same force would maybe be put to a stop in Japan or on the Wrangel Islands ( Which are even farther from the Continent than Japan ). ( Sadogashima is closer to Japan of course, but it can't merge with an incoming attack force, it need either to go back on the continent, or merge once another BETA force have reached the mainland, which will probably be already diminished by the coast defense line at that point ).

Of course there is a defense line, but they can reinforce it as much as they want, the fact is that the topography around Britain is at their disadvantage and that BETA forces will suffer less losses by the time they reach the defense line, and thus would invade the island with more active forces.

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>>13639162

Pretty much:
http://www.amazon.com/Schwarzesmarken-Kokusho-Michibiku-Daichie-Special/dp/4047295876

I'm kinda regretting not picking up BiS when I saw it earlier though (only 5 buckaroos).

>>13638516
Yoshimune is a Haruka/Sumika fag though.

>>13638975
/a/ and the shitty spoiler culture it has have.

>>13639401

>spoiler culture

It's not like SM is going to be translated anytime soon, and the anime is liable to do a very shitty job covering everything anyways.

>>13639497
Oh yeah look at this quality fucking discussion. I sure love reading autistic debates between the kind of spergs that are more invested in the fictional outcome and reception of their favourite character design than enjoying entertainment works they can actually appreciate.

>>13639612

Considering that a couple of them have read the LN/VN...

>>13638295
>>13638901
They actually aren't off-model; I've seen officer boots in a book on vintage German militaria and they did actually look like that.

>>13638389
>she's EQUAL to Axmann in her depravity

As rotten as the major is I find that claim to be highly dubious.

>it was Beatrix who was ultimately pulling Axmann's chains

How do you figure?

>>13638567
>Schwarzeswagon
>wagon
>not wagen

Nein, Schwarzer, du getan vermasselt.

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MY DICK!!!

>>13631428
Nearly a decade later I'm still pissed my choice in that scene didn't matter.

>>13639843
Me too.

>>13639835
Seems like they're...what, 50% through Extra? Things seem to be going well.

>>13639822

Not him, but there was that rumor about her convincing Axmann to betray the rebels.

Also, I don't think Beatrix is completely evil. She does plenty of bad things, but the situation she was in was pretty shitty. I don't really think anybody really deserved the endings they got, truth be told.

>>13639854

>I don't really think anybody really deserved the endings they got, truth be told.

That's a pretty good joke. What do you call shooting civvies, summarily executing NVA soldiers, torturing anybody she could get her hands on, and being an all around cunt. She's a petty, evil woman motivated by hate, jealousy, and cruelty. She hated Iris for years over some little offense she took back in her academy days. All the "Greater Good" shit is just an excuse she tells others so she can keep on being an evil bitch. To borrow a term from that stupid Tropes site, she's a complete monster.

>>13639822

>she's EQUAL to Axmann in her depravity

Axmann's concentrated evil. He's more the type to work someone over years rather than trying to fuck as much people as possible.

Beatrix's evil is more dispersed (unless it involves Irisdina), and she probably has more blood on her hands than any other stasi in her organization.

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>>13639910

Irisfag is just tsundere for Beato.

>>13637198
>another fucking type-00
dammit koto where the fuck is my non scale fubuki

>>13640391
well they just need to change the color of the plastiic and get free money

https://twitter.com/hccvjpe8dk/status/676440729669922816

>>13638975
I've been out of these threads, because some lucky ones here can speak moon and are having fun with SM. I just get sad that I can't join discussion.

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>>13640391
>where the fuck is my non scale fubuki

Not used in actual combat, therefore underrepresented in the series compared to even the "fed to the grinder by the carton" F-4J.

Until the next spinoff VN comes along with a sidestory about an all-girls training squadron and a faceless male instructor and they all use Fubukis for the entire story.

The girl whose route you select is the one you're cockblocked from, when in the finale battle your training unit is caught by the enemy in a surprise incursion, no comfort sex from the others as they finish their training and leave for other units and you end the story as a broken man. Each girl has an "opposite" in another character that will also attempt to actively compete for your attention and whom you have to outright reject in order to progress on the route. The rejected character will be featured in the epilouge as one of the most successful out of all the squadron members, complete with reputation as an ace pilot, high-echelon officer husband and children, and a loving, lasting marriage.

If you don't pick a side, you get the standard bad end where you die, they die, everyone dies. Basically your choice in romance kills the waifu.

After this, we make a "Maniax" game and turn it into the most standard romcom obtainable on the market, complete with accompanying merchandise and voice apps on smartphone alarms using sound clips of your favorite waifu. If you let the battery die you get to hear your waifu's dying line from the VN. There should be dakimakura with one standard lewd side and if you flip it inside out you get to fap to the corpse of your waifu illustrated to according to how they die. One of them will be penetration via Fort.

Will this sell, /m/?

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>>13640768

It's not really a doujin. It's more like a set of sketches and artwork drawn up by the anime team.

Also, anime Beato doesn't look that bad. The image they used for her on the site is rather unflattering compared to the designs they have in the artbook.

>>13640837
Well it's an artbook so it's normal she is well drawn, now in the case of the anime it's another story, she will be more close to the website design than the artbook one i think.

>>13640768

>dat posterior

Jesus. How many babies?

>>13640854
Well, the F-4 is the mother of all TSF designs sooo

Oh wait, you meant Beatrix.

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>>13640850

One can only hope...

>>13640859

They both get my dick hard.

>>13640837
>>13640861
Fucking Kouki, don't keep it all for yourself

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>>13640872

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>>13640873

Kouki is pretty cute too.

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>>13640874
>>13640873
>you will never get to watch these

>>13640909
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv245852939 go right ahead man

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>>13640931
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>>13640969
my account isnt premium and im watching fine. been meaning to resub though.

>>13640971
I never could. Once I managed to watch something live and prompty kicked anyway because the premiums have priority. And that was years ago.
I would be fine watching the previous age videos and somehow that's not available too.

I want to bomb everyone running this piece of shit website.

>>13640977
keep trying that almost never happens unless theres a huge stream and this sure isnt

kouki talking about ero content in games. wish my nippon was better.

>>13640978
I remember I was actually kicked while watching a stream of Kouki talking alone while eating something.
Kek. I stopped trying ever since.

>>13640984
Damn I'm really interested on his opinion about that

>>13640992
the final summary was something like:

Main characters: stuff like "walking in on changing clothes" ok. Sex no
Original characters made for it: yes. used "clone/sister of kryska" as an example.

Don't quote me though

>>13641002
That confirm whatever SM Extra is, it won't be H then.

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He ended it wishing people a happy christmas whether you are spending it with people who are real or not.

>>13641015
;_; He's so nice ;_;

>>13640837
those are some titan tits

>>13641012
It was pretty predictable : An SM : Extra/Altered Fable would target the main VN audience, and the main VN is not H for a reason.

I don't even think we will ever get new official H content in the Chronicles.

>>13641149
>the main VN is not H for a reason.
For what reason?
It's a PC game, they could do it.
I don't get it.

>>13641152
>For what reason?

To get more people to play it obviously, and especially the ones who read the LN but don't want to see sex scenes.

Muv-Luv is a cross-media thing now, and their public is not only constituted of Eroge Otakus anymore.

Of course, they could do a 18+ version, and an All-ages version. My thought is that they don't want to spend money and time on something which will not bring any big sales on its own, and basically all Muv-Luv fan will buy an All-ages VN if there is no 18+ version. They will not sulk a new entry for this.

Give âge a bigger budget and/or the assurance that the 18+ will bring a significant amount of new sales, and I'm sure they will do H content again.

( Besides, now that I think of it, the lack of original content from âge is a problem, because the TE and SM LNs are property of their respective authors, and even if they use the Muv-Luv franchise, if they don't want to see sex scenes, there will not be any, else the contract allowing âge to use the LN to do a VN would just be broken )

>>13641012

If there was any sex, it'd all be in the background or implied.

Something like a fade to black, and then "So-and-so spent a long time with Whomever."

>>13641237
I see, thanks
At least I'm glad they didn't cut down on the violence in SM, was really worried about that.

>>13641245
This is fine too

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I guess I'll dump some of the shit from the stream.

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>>13641254

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>>13641258

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>>13641261

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>>13641264

>>13641258
VN when?

>>13641261
>>13641268
Those are cute as fuck.

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>>13641268

>>13641268
wow lewd

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>>13641273

>>13641269
>>13641272
>>13641274

You broke the combo man.

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>>13641276

>>13641273
>dat Meiya
nggggghhhhh

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>>13641284

Ok, so I guess I will need to get this calendar.

any yuzuka?

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>>13641291

So now you Irisfags and can wear your waifu on your chest.

>>13641252
>>13641245
>>13641237

That's kinda silly when you learn that the LNs run in TechGian, which is definitely not prudish when it comes to lewd.

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>>13641299

Also, Axmann and Belyaev apparently won some poll. Not sure what it's about.

【ニコ生】「キマシナイトフィーバー」 上司にしたく「ない」キャラ ベリャーエフ(31%) アクスマン(24%)

>>13641298

TDA didn't get anything at all.

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>>13641015
>whether you are spending it with people who are real or not

>>13641299
2lewd

>>13641261
The Mishas are multiplying

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>>13641967
>>13641299

Iris has some pretty excellent taste in fashion. I wish we would've got to see some of the other girls in casual attire (like Beato, for instances).

>>13641983

It'd just be a red version of whatever Irisdina's wearing.

Somehow, I don't see Beato really dressing up. She probably has a set of casual clothes, but never has the chance to use them with all the shit she has to deal with. The stasi were pretty insular too, and tried to limit their off-time contact with people outside of the organization.

Axmann would, but only because he's a master of deception and needs disguises.