Star Trek Beyond Trailer

well that trailer was shit as expected.

Looks terrible.

>>13626247

> From the director of The Fast & The Furious

I'm not even a Trek fan but why, why would anyone okay that?

This could either be terrible, or it could be HumpbackWhales/10.

At the very least it can't possibly be yet another "hey look we took stuff from the prime timeline and flipped things around a bit aren't we clever" film.

Oh looks, it's another dumb action movie. Shocking.

>>13626247
>surely they will learn from Into Darkness that Star Trek isn't supposed to be an action movie...
God damnmit.

>>13626247
>Previous movies kind of missed the point of star trek.

>Abrams goes
>Orchi tries to do it, but goes

>Bring on huge Star Trek fans
>Write scripts getting it back to it's roots.
>Paramount rejects script for being "too Star Trek"

No thank you.

>>13626247
>grabbing someone while in the middle of being transported will also bring them along
NOT HOW THE TRANSPORTER MATRIX WORKS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This looks terrible. Might beat out insurrection for worst trek movie.

>>13626281

Why would they have? The last two Trek movies each made more than the last 4 Trek prime movies put together in terms of profit. They might not be what fans consider Trek material, but the studios and producers have no reason to care because they're pulling in the blockbuster crowd and making money regardless. If they have a plan, it's to convert Trek from what you think it is in to a blockbuster franchise, not the other way around.

>>13626247
Wonderful, Social Justice, the 'Science Fiction" franchise is getting another series.

>>13626306
Weak bait

>>13626247
It's definitely not feeling anything how Star Trek should, I just hope the new show isn't like this. I've pretty much given up on getting another good movie.

>>13626299
>insurrection
>worst
at its worst insurrection was a very long TNG episode, doesn't make for a great movie but it's not terrible, I still think 5 is possible the worst, but yes, Beyond is looking like a contender for the spot.

I've always looked forward to a new Star Trek movie, even the last one, this trailer killed it for me.

>>13626308
Star Trek lowest common denominator dribble with laughable 'science' and tacted on social issues handled with the grace of a hambeast, it deserved to die.

>>13626322
Yeah but you didn't even open the trailer. Fuck you even said
>another series

>>13626322
Still weak bait.

>Let's take that Flight of the Phoenix movie
>and remake it with Star Trek characters!

>>13626247

Aren't they able to do something cool with tha ship instead of having it overpowered, almost destroyed and now totally destroyed? Yeah, it's the third film of the new series and they want to destroy the Enterprise as well, but we lack a cool space battle like that in Wrath. What a waste.

>>13626359
Big E's entire purpose in Star Trek films is to get blown up and rebuilt.

There's plenty of letters in the alphabet, after all.

>>13626371

Sadly the starship battles like those in the two Nicholas Meyer's film will never come back.

>>13626359
>Wrath of Khan
best star trek movie ship to ship combat
>that hide and seek
>that git feeling mixed with calculation
>the mind games

6's final battle was also really enjoyable

>>13626379
>6's final battle was also really enjoyable
I know the lines by heart
'taH pagh, taH be?'

The only bad thing about Meyers is that it set up the terrible precedent that made people think you can bring in someone who doesn't know anything about Trek lore to direct a Trek movie. Meyers to his credit marathoned the entire original series (Which is how he picked up on Khan), to learn about the characters. But everyone else? Not so much, and it shows.

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>>13626247

fitting song, since they have sabotaged Star Trek for good now.

>>13626377


Why not? I see no reason why they couldn't do something similar with modern tech. Sure, it may be a bit more edgy and grimdark, but you could very much create a ship to ship sequence like that with a modern suspense vibe and still make it interesting.

>>13626419
oh they certainly can from a tech point of view but it's all about understanding tension and build up, and these are very very rare to these days, now they'd rather show explosive space battles from the start of the battle to the end with no "breaks" in between.

>>13626461
Breaks work better for sub warfare, which AFAIK is the kind of combat WoK sought to emulate.

When you can actually see what you're aiming at, then it's time for full broadsides explosion porn.

The McCoy line is the only good thing in that whole trailer.

>>13626371
Only in nuTrek.
Movies-only Enterprise-E did fairly well.

I'm surprised by the lack of lens flare.

Any word on that new television series that may or may not be set in the JJ-verse?

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>>13626259
>>13626260
well yeah, ALL star trek movies are shit

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>>13626247
>mfw Gundam Thunderbolt excuses obviously stylistic music with a plot point better than Trek.

>>13626482
And, you know, they spoiled what's probably one of the only good jokes in the trailer.

>The good guys are human.
>The bad guys are lizards.
THIS IS HUMANISM! CHECK YOUR MAMMAL PRIVILEGE!

>>13626482

Karl Urban is the best thing about these new movies.

>>13626247
>Star Trek
>Beastie Boys
what the waht? That song is old as fuck, too, what the hell were they thinking?

>>13626482
And uh, which line was that?

I have no idea who's who in this shit series.

Was it the "At least I won't die alone... That's just typical" line?

>>13626548

>Any word on that new television series that may or may not be set in the JJ-verse?

god please no

>>13627206
The first AbramsTrek used it as well when little snotnosed shit Kirk drove that convertible into a ravine.

It's pretty much "Kirk just destroyed something important. Again."

>>13626548
The only thing we know is that it's "not related to Star Trek: Beyond"

>>13627479
There's not much else to take it.

Either they reboot the Prime universe yet again, or they set it in the JJ-verse.

They could try setting it post Insurrection and line it up with Star Trek Online, but that's doubtful.

>>13627505
This is sad. Now I regret JJ's departure from the director's seat. The new movie doesn't even respect the Enterprise by fucking destroying it again. Just give them the Ent-A already and let's go back home to what ST is

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>My face when I see what Star Trek has become

Even the fucking fan shows are more on point.

Was that the Gorn?

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>>13626267
>deliberately advertising this

the absolute madmen

>>13627187
I'm still rather annoyed they cancelled Almost Human.

Is this even Star Trek anymore? It feels like generic action movie #4583281.

>>13627539
What I've seen while browsing some Star Trek sites and coverage over the new series is that:

It may or may not be set in the JJ-verse.

It may or may not be a reboot.

It's supposed to return to Star Trek's roots, with a modern take. Maybe we'll see Trump-fied Ferengis and clear Not!Isis alien expys. And then attempting to solve everything via diplomacy, only to result in some gun diplomacy a bit more often than in the original series.

It's supposed to be able to capture a large enough audience in order to make them pay the subscription fee for CBS' Netflix-copy. The first 2 episodes will be aired free, but the rest will supposedly be locked behind their subscription service.

Those 4 things really limit what possible course of action they can take, especially the "back to Star Trek" line.

What I've seen most commonly speculated is:
- A modern reboot of the Prime Universe that hybridizes elements of JJ Trek with classic Trek.

- A parallel story revolving around some other ship and crew set in JJ Trek, kind of like Voyager.

- A far future series set in the Prime universe, which would allow CBS to attempt more cross-media promotion with Star Trek Online. Remember that CBS did officially claim STO's Odyssey-class as the next Enterprise as well, so there is some credence that they may take some elements from STO to help jumpstart the series, such as enemy ships and designs. So speculation has ramped up that maybe it could be a series revolving around the massive Enterprise-F.

- Some speculation it might be a post-Insurrection setting in the Prime universe, but focusing on a non-Enterprise ship. Again, kind of like Voyager.

CBS and Paramount have kind of locked themselves into a dead-end with the IP.

>>13627697
>The Fast & The Furious director
I guess, yeah. Into Darkness was strong with the action movie too though, from the opening scene straight through all the action bullshit up to the fist fight at the end so this just seems like a logical extension of that to me.

I don't know what to say, Hollywood? If it's a good action movie then I guess I can live with that.

>tfw trailer made me feel worse than the Crocodile Hunter movie trailer

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>>13626418
my fucking thoughts exactly.

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>>13626247
How did we end up here?

>>13626247
Oh, so now it's just that Gorn episode from TOS instead of Star Trek II?

>>13626281
The problem with Into Darkness wasn't that it was an action movie. The problem was that it was just Space Seed + Wrath of Khan done badly.

People who think Star Trek doesn't benefit from action don't understand that a franchise needs to make money to survive. The first nuTrek was basically The Motion Picture but toned down and better paced. The second was literally Wrath of Khan without any of the emotion.

>>13626290
That's not true. I remember at least one episode in TNG where Barclay did this and brought people into his transport stream.

>>13626300
>last 4 Trek prime movies
So that would be Nemesis, Insurrection, First Contact, and Generations? Which were, respectively, grimdark action and psychic rape, romance and Iraq War insurgency conspiracies, the most action-packed Star Trek to date, and a really long episode of TNG?

>>13626312
The trailer reminded me of Guardians of the Galaxy, though maybe that's just because of the music. The actual scenes didn't look too bad, aside from the obvious honeypot shapeshifter girl.

>>13626321
>Based on one trailer
>Worse than God

>>13627187
New Dredd never.

>>13626483
So did A it lasted though the TMP movies, only the OG and D got blown to bits in a movie.

>>13627951
Also B.

> Roberto Orci has stated that Star Trek Beyond will feel more like the original series than its predecessors in the reboot series while still trying something new with the established material.[

>>13627966
>Bob Orci addressed Khan's casting: "Basically, as we went through the casting process and we began honing in on the themes of the movie, it became uncomfortable for me to support demonizing anyone of color, particularly any one of Middle Eastern descent or anyone evoking that. One of the points of the movie is that we must be careful about the villain within US, not some other race".
>Trusting Orci ever
He's a fucking idiot.

>>13627954
I thought B only had that bit of damage or was it completely fucked by the nexus,right on its first voyage? Been years since I've seen generations so a bit fuzzy on it.

>>13627974
>middle eastern

why the fuck would they have cast someone middle eastern?

Indian or Mexican only.

>>13628007
B got a tiny chunk vaporized and was brand new, so it got repaired and stuff.

>>13628012
Orci's a 9/11 truther idiot, which is why the plot of STID actually works better if you assume Khan's lying and all Marcus's stuff is him reacting to reports of Kirk going full retard on the Enterprise.

>>13628052
Yeah I thought it survived sans chunk kirk was on. Shame we see so little of it I have a hard on for excelsior class ships.

>>13628012
Because all brown-skinned people look the same to a white man and his racist eyes. Orci's full of white guilt.

Why must they fuck the enterprise up yet again, seems like the old girl does nothing but get her shit shot up and destroyed.

>>13628104
I dunno, but it is annoying.

That said, I bet the story would be over in five minutes if the ship was intact and could unleash all 74 torpedoes at once (assuming into Darkness wasn't retconned out).

>>13628012
Or they could keep their white guy and make him not be Khan.

You don't even have to change anything. He could still be an Augment, he could still call himself Khan. Just have it turn out he's not really Khan, just some former underling with a huge Khan complex.

That's how I imagine it to be anyway, seeing as he acted nothing like Khan and him being Khan doesn't benefit the story.

>>13628148
I once saw a cool rewrite idea for STiD where John Harrison was just a Section 31 agent who got augmented and took out Khan as part of a scheme to lead the Klingons into a war with the Romulans. That would've been WAY better.

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>>13627833
Because we know not what we ask for, dear anon.

>>13627931

Yea, those films. I wan't arguing their quality - I was arguing that the new Trek movies are pulling in a lot more cash than they are so there' really no reason why they'd stop making them. They've pulled in more money than any other Trek films. They've cost a lot more to make than any other Trek films too, so looked at as a percentage their returns don't seem as good, but when looking at the actual gross profit it does work out far better.

>>13628012

Because Singh Khan being hindu doesn't make sense, there are no designated shitting streets in space.

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>beastie boys soundtrack in Star Trek

>>13626247
>trashing the Enterprise this early

That doesn't sit well with me. I mean I was fine with it in the Prime movies cause by that point the old girl was old and out of date, only making it as far as it did because of the experience of the ones in command. But by this point this ship should be top of the line.

>>13629444
They don't think of shit like that in action trek, just whatever flashy new gismo to keep people ohhhing and ahhhhing.

That said if there is one thing I like about the rebootverse is the ship designs, well the exterior the bridge isn't bag, but it seems to white. And the engine room is just ehhh miss the simple warp core but I guess the common movie goewr needs it to look like a modern engine room or they wouldn't know what the fuck a warp core is.

>>13626247
Beyond what?

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>>13629438
it harkens back to flaretrek 1 where we learned how James Kirk (who's totally great at driving a stick) loves to jam out to old songs in stolen cars

>>13627951
Original NCC-1701 Enterprise and D had good runs in their series.

I wonder: can nu-Trek survive now that Star Wars has returned? I mean, it's now full of explosions and hot, young actors, but it's never been as big as SW.

>>13629529
I read the spoilers for the new Star Wars and it's shit. JewJew Abraham is a fucking hack.

>>13629533
Are the spoilers legit?

Anyway, I am not bothered thanks to ID-2 and other projects.

>>13629541
yes
Also the film has premiered already

>>13629522
Yeah but we're talking movies anon, typically they don't get blown to bits in the series.

Its a shame they made the D go out like a bitch in generations.

>>13629529
Well hopefully nu trek dies because of this and the series coming out next month is good and prime trek makes a return for the fans.

>>13629533
Yet everyone that has seen it is calling it great.

>>13629529
As long as SW and ST movies don't come out around the same time they both should be fine.

>>13629529
All I know is my dad's never going to shut up about how he thinks Abrams is an unoriginal hack.

He seems rather blissfully aware of how unoriginal Star Wars is in the first place, but apparently Star Wars invented spaceships flying sideways through narrow spaces!

>>13629921
Everyone knows Star Wars invented narrow spaces.

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>>13626247

>>13629921

Not to say that Star Wars is a stunningly original work or anything, but it's about as original as something can be expected to be. You can see it's influences if you look or are familiar with them, like Flash Gordon, Kurosawa, Joseph Campbell and so on - but Lucas did enough to make the work his own by any metric you want to measure it with.

>>13626247
Ug, that trailer is bad

I would rather see Paramount make the Axnar movie instead
https://youtu.be/hrlNSGbgrlQ

>>13630104
The point being my dad's a troll who is really good at engineering onesided arguments, Episode 7 being a rehash of Episode 4 is just going to fuel his bullshit about creativity being dead and Abrams being a hack for years to come.

Then again he liked the Battlestar Galactica reimagining and I could just shit on his taste by pointing out it's essentially a hybrid ripoff of Star Treks Deep Space Nine and Voyager with the flavoring loosely inspired by the original BSG.

>>13626247
>Enterprise appears to be completely trashed/destroyed at the start of the movie.
>Appears most of the film takes place on one planet.
>Bestie boys with action shots.

This doesn't sit well with me. Doesn't this mean that the crew failed to complete the 5 year mission?

However, I do like the possibility of the 1701-A showing up at the end of the film with a possible updated/refit Nu Connie design.

https://youtu.be/N-uyWAe0NhQ?t=24s
I keep wanting them to just say the title like this and go into a cover of the TOS song

>>13630190
>Doesn't this mean that the crew failed to complete the 5 year mission?

Depends, we don't know how long Beyond takes place after Into Darkness. It's possible it's at the tail end of the 5 year mission when the Enterprise was on the way home.

>>13630190
Well it's pretty much a "the car broke down on the highway" episode, but with a budget big enough for it to not take place purely in space.

It'll probably end up being a kitschy pulp adventure that ends with TO BE CONTINUED IN STAR TREK: THE NEW SERIES, ONLY ON CBS.

>>13630169
>Then again he liked the Battlestar Galactica reimagining
I sincerely hopy you tell your dad to kill himself every day.

>>13630205
It's possible. Orci and Pegg have both said that Beyond takes place very deep in the 5 year mission.

>>13626247
>no spaceship
>stranded on one planet
>generic action shot #2971
>generic action shot #2971 with generic rock song #325
>cheesy lines

Eating glass shards would be a more enjoyable experience

>>13626247
This screams "We are totally copying Guardians of the Galaxy."

FFS, the gogles that Kirk is wearing at the end is a blatant reference to the Star Lord mask.

Did anyone think of that futurama episode when the trailer started the whole stranded thing?

>>13629438
>>13629521
And yet, all I can think of is that scene in IV with the boombox on the bus. How everyone applauded when it was finally turned off.

>>13630209
>It'll probably end up being a kitschy pulp adventure that ends with TO BE CONTINUED IN STAR TREK: THE NEW SERIES, ONLY ON CBS.
signs point to no
as far as I've heard the new Trek series is unrelated to flaretrek, no word if Prime or a new continuity/timeline.

which is too bad, I wouldn't mind seeing this cast do Star Trek, they might be good at it

>>13630362
I think a lot of the problems with the movie series relate to there being no Trek on TV as well. The creators are trying to follow the pattern of the original movies (crew gets together in 1, fights old nemesis in 2, trashes the Enterprise in 3) without realizing those things only felt "right" in the old movies because there were three seasons' worth of investment and status quo built in.

>>13629435
>Singh
>Hindu

>>13630362
>a new continuity/timeline.
Mirror Universe? It has shooting and punching while still being part of the classic timeline.

>>13627505
Far more likely that they'd just take Online out of canon. If the new show is Trek prime you can bet that Online no longer is, and that's for the better whether you like the game or not.

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>>13627922
>The first nuTrek was basically The Motion Picture but toned down and better paced.
Really not seeing it.

>>13632609
>Giant alien death machine comes out of nowhere
>Enterprise is new and untrained crew
>The secret is tied to humanity's actions centuries distant from the story
>Spock holds the answer yet again
>Expedition into a strange and giant spaceship to try and save Earth
>Decker is basically Pinekirk
>Torturous form of communication between alien ship and Starfleet (Ileta and torture)
It's mostly superficial.

Why didn't they just cast Alexander Siddig/Julian Bashir as Khan?

Also, I heard Idris Elba is the villain? Was he Captain Sisko? Is he now a rubber-mask Gorn?

>>13632868
because they wanted Cumberbatch's crowd, and it worked, Siddig would have been a great choice for Khan but he doesn't have that star power Cumberbatch had

>>13632864
>no satellite AI space waifu

it was shit

>>13632890
>Implying Kirk wasn't fucking one of the holograms.

>>13630169
>>13630214
Hey, now, what's wrong with the BSG reimagining? The original series was a cheesy Star Wars knockoff. Yes, we have the whole deal with "God did it" at the end, but the series started out pretty good.

>by pointing out it's essentially a hybrid ripoff of Star Treks Deep Space Nine
That one was a Ronald D. Moore project too.

The trailer looks like crap. It looks like just another action movie, mixed together with a random episode of TOS. And Simon Pegg is as obnoxious as always.
The only "Beyond" in this thing is that, since Orci and Lin are total hacks, they will fuck up this beyond all recognition. I'm betting it will get around 30%-40% in Rotten Tomatoes when it premieres.

That white skinned/haired alien chick looks pretty hot, though.

>>13633170
>The only "Beyond" in this thing is that, since Orci and Lin are total hacks, they will fuck up this beyond all recognition. I'm betting it will get around 30%-40% in Rotten Tomatoes when it premieres.
It'll still be better than into Darkness, by virtue of not inserting 9/11 truther bullshit and making stupid moral proclamations that don't match what you see onscreen.

Also, Justin Lin actually seems to get Star Trek, so maybe it's not going to be shit:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/15/its-a-clash-of-philosophies-in-star-trek-beyond
>What would happen if you go on a five year journey and you’re trying to not only explore but also maybe introduce other people to your way of thinking? What would that mean? What are the consequences of that? You’re spreading a philosophy that you think is great - are there going to be any philosophies that counter you? That was something I thought about since I was a kid, and we got to explore that.

>I’m going to use a sports analogy, so forgive me. I can tell you what a great athlete I am, what a great basketball player I am, but when I step on the court you’re going to know very quickly whether I’m any good. In a way I feel like it’s easy to preach what the Federation is about, how you’re supposed to act, but what happens when you [are on your heels]. How do you react?

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>>13630260
........OH MY GOD!

>>13626247
I like what I'm seeing, but the choice of song is atrocious.
Which, I like the Beastie Boys, but not for Star Trek!

>>13630260
basically this

Like... I' not against the idea of Guardians-ifying a Star Trek movie, but this general vibe worries me greatly. Mass appeal is clearly the intent, which is both fine and to be expected, but the extents presented are quite concerning.

>>13633126
>Hey, now, what's wrong with the BSG reimagining?

Season 3 and 4.

>>13633406
The best things out of those seasons was the Battle of New Caprica (at least until they blew up the Pegasus) and the music.

>>13633277
>inserting 9/11 truther bullshit
Wait, what? What 9/11 trutherism?

>>13633277
Lin might get it but can he deliver? it's thin but based on this trailer he either doesn't OR it's a bait and switch, he draws the action audience in with that trailer and then gives you a Trek movie as a Trek fan expect it to be and all those action scene only make up 10%-15% of the movie

>>13633423
The whole "terrorist attack is an excuse to attack another country" thing is a big part of "9/11 was an inside job" stuff, which Orci believes in.

That's why the plot falls apart if you actually accept it at face value, but makes WAY more sense if you take most of Khan's statements as lies meant to manipulate Kirk and Admiral Marcus's actions as responses to Kirk constantly fucking up/lying.

>>13630344

Watched 4 last night, I love the part when they try to get in the hospital and Bones can't help but be disgusted by "modern" medicine.

>"It's like a goddamn spanish inquisition!"

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>>13627701
>Remember that CBS did officially claim STO's Odyssey-class as the next Enterprise as well
>So speculation has ramped up that maybe it could be a series revolving around the massive Enterprise-F.
Huh, I knew nothing of this thing. What a fat spaceship. It's like if a Sovereign ate an Intrepid.

>The pinnacle of the Odyssey-class's technological achievement was the advanced quantum slipstream drive carried aboard all Odyssey-class vessels. The advanced quantum slipstream drive propelled the Odyssey-class to its fastest speed, transwarp 34.71+.
lolwat

>>13633922
STO's... weird. The Sovereign's a massive whale, and clearly not to everyone's taste. I sort of like it though

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>>13633922
Odyssey is the single largest Enterprise besides the fugly Ent-J, and probably the single largest canon ship after the Ent-J.

Official length is around 1000 Meters or so.

The newest Fed carrier in-game, the Jupiter-class, is around 1400 meters, and here is an image of it to scale with an Intrepid/Voyager. So there's a rough idea of how massive that ship is.

>>13633922
I kind of like it. I like big ships though.

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>>13633970
>>13633980

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>>13633922
well at least its not the time travel ship

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>>13634014
Outdated and rough scale chart using the ships in STO for the models.

This has the old NPC Jupiter. The new one is slightly smaller and sleeker.

I DID NOT MAKE THIS.

>>13634020
>Excalibur class

damn I had fun with that ship

>>13634014

...wtf is the J? The Federations answer to a dreadnought?

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>>13634211
>wtf is the J?
The official explanation was that it's supposed to be some kind of multi-generational ship sent to explore other galaxies.

The truth is that it's the Enterprise writers' attempt at making something seem super futuristic and only giving the CG guy a couple of hours to whip something up.

Like everything else to do with the Temporal Cold War, it should be ignored outright.

>>13626377
Put those battles in front of a test audience today and they'll complain about the lack of explosions, fighter pilots, and 3D moments. Nobody but us nerds wants to see submarines in space.

>>13634255

Why so fuck huge? I read up a bit on it...it has FOLD engines? What?

>>13634211
The ugliest piece of shit ever. Even the flying bathtub Jupiter (original NPC design, not the new one) or the Tron-style Eclipse cruiser (another STO original) look better.

Just look at it. >>13634255

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>>13626247
>this is literally what Star Trek has become

>>13627686
Same. It was so good.

>>13634272
They were out of ideas. Someone probably stared at the O and Y on their keyboard long enough to come up with a quick design that was accepted for the few scenes it appears.

>>13632595
Star Trek is a TV/movie franchise. Side stuff like games, books, comics, etc are never hard tier 1 canon.

>>13633277
>You’re spreading a philosophy that you think is great

Doesn't that go against the Prime Directive?

>>13633428
Even if he's the director that doesn't mean he has full control over everything. He could want to make a long episode of TNG but with the TOS cast but then a producer with money sweeps and tells 'em "Have Kirk jump on a motorcycle."

>>13634315
Not if they are a post-warp culture.

>>13634255
I still prefer back when this design was so confusing to me that I assumed it distorted the space around it and was like some sort of cubist spaceship, seen simultaneously from different angles.

>>13632595
Online was only ever loose canon. And only because CBS always had some say over what can and cannot show up in STO. They veto'd some designs, restrict certain designs and names, and limit what stories STO can use. Granted, most of the stuff denied are stuff that Paramount has control over, such as JJ Trek, as well as not allowing players to name themselves after certain iconic characters or name their ships after certain iconic ships.

But there is precedent to try and tie a series to some games, to try and shotgun and hit as many audiences, which is why it wouldn't be too unusual to have CBS make Online retcon old storylines and line it up with whatever series they're setting. Of course, there's also the fact that STO, despite its godawful and outdated engine, is still kicking when other games from its time have died. So clearly there is enough of a fanbase there to draw on too.

>>13634272
>Why so fuck huge?
Because it's supposed to be filled with parks and shit so the crew and families can live comfortably as they fly between galaxies. It's basically the Ent-D on steroids.

>>13634339
>is still kicking
It's actually been doing better than ever since they started these "expansions". That's how they can afford to bring back so many actors to do voice work.
Still surprised they haven't been given the green light to put a tier-5/6 Connie in the cash shop; they'd make an absolute mint.