GUNDAM THUNDERBOLT PREVIEW

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dem fucking BGM

>>13615868
I for one am excited.

>>13615868
So this is where Unicorn's, GBF and G-Reco's talent went? No wonder IBO looks like shit.

>>13615903
>GBF
That is studio 3.

>>13615903

>G-Reco's talent.

Similar trombone/jazz track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXo5bFTJ0yE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGuMeMsR6sk

leaked version : http://www.gogoanime.com/mobile-suit-gundam-thunderbolt-ona-episode-1 (raw)

So I assume you need to have watched all the universal century essentials to get into Thunderbolt?

>>13616004
Nope, this takes place during the One Year War, so you really only need 0079. You could probably even hop in blind since this is a side story with none of the characters from the other series appearing with the exception of Gihren. You just need to know the setting and context

>>13615977
Aww man, they cut the scene where Daryl goes to sleep and wakes up to see his friend dead on the monitor. It makes Io's infiltration seem really really fast

>>13615977
God damn the animation is sexy. Also it says episode 2 is coming in February

So what are the episode lengths and time between releases? This is some of the juiciest-looking animation I've seen since Redline, I'm getting excited.

>>13615977
Holy shit in thought this was bs at first nice.

>>13616045
Yeah noticed that as well, makes it seem way to fast.

>>13616063
It's looking to be about 15 minutes with 2 months in between going by the next episode preview

>jazz plays as gundam touches the zaku

pretty cool knowing how the whole particle thing works

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>they animated his Adam's apple's movement

So fucking based.

>>13616066
Also the scene where Io comes back in the Dom. It's a tense moment in the manga since an unidentified mobile suit approachs the ship and they don't know its him until they hear the Jazz blaring.

>>13615868
Gundam Thunderbolt? Pfft more like Gundam Thunderstupid.

>>13615868
There's a lot more personality to this than I expected. I'm glad they made the whole Jazz track thing this guy's personal hobby instead of just a thing they did because reasons.

Jesus that pov from the zaku, that's the scariest a gundam has looked in a long time.

It also looks like their speeding this up a bit, so the ova's may actually get to cover au boaq

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Zeon has nice porn.

>>13616135
Scene was great. Honestly had a grin the whole time with accompanying fear boner.

>>13616141
>Prison School doujin

>>13616141
>Royal teens
>not sayla on the cover

heh

>>13615977
Oh my god, this looks fucking terrible.

>>13615977
screw Mika, this is the MC i've been waiting for

>>13615868
wonder why this isn't on the youtube channel

I like the romantic tone to this despite being so violent. Is thunderbolt sad? I never read it.

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>>13615977
dat POV

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>>13616176
Sorta I guess, depends on what you mean never really has been a tear jerker but some kinda sad shit happens.

>>13616180
>mfw this scene

I hope they don't focus too much on Io.

I'm more of a feddie if anything, but I like Darryl way more than him.

That fucking animation and shading.
So they DO remember how good anime could look.

>>13616215
>So they DO remember how good anime could look.
These guys worked with Tomino. What did you expect?

>>13616211
It was pretty half and half in the manga especially the parts that are going to be covered so you're fine there.

>>13616226
That's Division 1 for ya. They're Sunrise's oldest studio and has been behind some of the best Gundam in terms of animation so its no surprise with the quality turn out.

I'm uploading the raw to mega right now

>>13616068
>The last thing you hear before you die is jazz.
You know, there could be much worse ways to go out. 10/10 scene, the Gundam was really giving off White Devil vibes.

>>13616226
Not really, this is pretty much the same animation team as Gundam Unicorn.

>>13616291
... which was the same on G-Reco.

Need better quality.

>>13616291

same as G Reco

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>beam spam is still more engaging and intense than muh nano laminating close combat

how do you defend this time

>>13616395

What sort of complaint is this?

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The Stardust Memory of the 21st Century.

Great animation and soundtrack, some great fights.
Shit-tier characters, story, and everything else.

>>13616423
While I'm not agreeing with you because you're just attempting to be the one who told you so without even watching it, the fact that the protagonists are not teenagers renders them immune to any and all criticism.

>>13616428
>you're just attempting to be the one who told you so without even watching it

No, but I've read the manga, and it quickly dissolves into shit after the first few chapters.

>>13616423

Not really. The Federation mc is a certified badass and this helps a lot. Zeon camp however is a bit weak despite the prosthetic gimmick. The first story arc set during the war is quite good, but in the second it takes a turn in wtf territory. It's so weird that only the mecha porn keep it interesting.

>>13616462
So exactly in what time period does the 2nd arc occur?

Also i have no idea what about the plot of this series except the two trailers.

>>13616475

The second arc start seven months after the end of the war, so we are in the middle of the year 0080. The first arc is just what you can expect from the trailer with the two factions dueling in some interesting battles. The second arc instead is totally bizzarre and introduces some new factions (Earh is half empty and the Federation doesn't control everything) with Zeon remnants on the run in the Earth sphere. It has some plot devices more at home in a nazi zombie like crazy monks etc.

>>13616433
Why becomes shit? what's the problem of the plot? For now it seems to have decent premises.

>>13615868
Not *quite* my tempo

>>13616500

They added a religious sect that wants to kill Zeon remnants. In short they are killer monks with bizzarre chants. However the second part is beyond the scope of the anime, so we'll get only the good story arc.

>>13616500
The rivalry doesn't get anywhere: If Io does something, Darryl does the same. They are always at a draw.

The 2nd arc is completely bizarre with evil buddhist monks that took a large part of Asia and are in war against the federation

prosthetic limbs are better than newtypes

Io always gets a shiny new Gundam for whatever reason

>>13616495
Basically we go from an average feddie vs zeon battle to an exploration of a semi destroyed and desolate earth, including nazi space zombies.

Might actually be worth watching, plus they picked a very interesting time period. Any idea if we get some plot regarding the rise of the titans, or something to do with Stardust memory?

>>13616518
>Io always gets a shiny new Gundam for whatever reason

Yeah, it's also one of the most shot down Gundam protagonist ever.

>>13616520

Nah, i missed a word. The killer monks are more at home in a nazi zombie movie, but they are not putting zombies in the story.

>>13616518
Io lost in their last match, he said so himself.

>>13616527
>Killer monks

Guess it's better then IBO's space harem fighters.

>GM Jobbers
>Incompetent Feds
Sure is refreshing Zeon wank, right?

>>13616569
It's either this or the IBO faggot circus.

>>13616569
Read the manga.

Or wait a bit, and you'll see Zekes die by the fucking score.

I'm guessing the stolen Rick Dom never comes back into play

Pretty nicely animated, or at least seems so through a shit framerate stream. Didn't quite manage to get hype, though. The Fed MC seems to be plotarmored to get away with whatever he wants, and the yet-another-RX-78-out-of-nowhere doesn't earn it any points either.
Still, I have always thought the Thunderbolt designs were pretty awesome. I'm sure I'll watch it, but I can't exactly say that I'm excited for it.

>>13616428
>the fact that the protagonists are not teenagers renders them immune to any and all criticism.
08th MS Team and 0083 were fucking garbage, bottom of the barrel trash in terms of characters, and they were adults.

>>13615997
tfw you don't enough hatching as the feddie mc

>>13616524
Wait, Lo is a protagonist? I thought he was the usual bad federation guy against an "heroic Zeon soldier " (sarcasm).

I am glad that they are at par, although this brings the story to a point of stagnation

>>13616670

Yeah, it's a story with two main characters that are rivals. They are stalling a lot but there is a clean cut winner by the end of the first story arc.

>>13616620

Actually that's just a FA-78 with minor modifications to fit additional boosters (addressing the main problem of the extra armor) and the multi shield system to operate safely in the area.

>>13616891
>just a FA-78 with minor modifications
Exactly.
We started with only the prototype RX-78-2 in a story where RX-78-1 was destroyed and RX-78-3 was never assembled. Then we got RX-78-3, 4, 5, 6, 7, NT-1, RX-79(G)x30, FA-78-1, FA-78-2, and now whatever the hell this one is, when all the spare parts for Project V that couldn't be loaded onto White Base were destroyed with SUPER NAPALM by the only functioning prototype.
As I said, yet-another-RX-78-out-of-nowhere.

>>13617007

While they clearly went overboard with the number of Gundams, it isn't exactly a stretch that they were able to build several units later. After in less than three months they were able to build a massive army of GM that outnumbered Zeon.

>yet another
>out of nowhere
This is not Tomino's UC. It is an AU. The OYW has stretched far beyond December. Gelgoog is in rate procurement. Kycillia survived. More Gundams have been built.

>>13617297
>Kycillia survived
Where does it say this? Is it after Volume 4?

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>>13615977
>http://www.gogoanime.com/mobile-suit-gundam-thunderbolt-ona-episode-1

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W-w-w-w-w-w-w-we're going to get a Thunderbolt Dom right?

>>13617340
Somewhere.

Point is its not standard UC and its not in the timeline. Its an AU where the only divergence is the design details, psycommu works different and that the war doesn't end in 0079.

Great another gundam in OYW. At this rate there will be an army of Gundam during OYW.

>>13617450
Did you completely fucking ignore the post above you

THUNDERBOLT
IS
NOT
UNIVERSAL CENTURY

>>13616103
Anonymous? Pfft more like Anonymoustupid.

>>13615868
>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3hpbxy_gundam-thunderbolt-first-3-min-preview_tv

Holy shit they're actually using that hotel lobby piano music in the show... I have never been less pumped for a battle sequence.

How many more gundams and GM variants can they retcon into the OYW?

>>13616106
Yeah, definitely. I was afraid it would just be shoehorned just to appear "stylistic" for no other contextual or thematic reason, like with Akito (correct me if I'm wrong).

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>>13616518

>The rivalry doesn't get anywhere: If Io does something, Darryl does the same. They are always at a draw.

>The 2nd arc is completely bizarre with evil buddhist monks that took a large part of Asia and are in war against the federation

Stardust Memory 2.0

>ejecting the core of the GM
That's pretty nifty. That and the POV gundam scene has me hooked.

>>13616518
>>13617469
Look, niggers, if sudden evil space cult is good enough for LOGH it's good enough for Gundam.

>>13617462
What does that have to do with Thunderbolt

>>13617485

The idea of it isn't bad, Gundam has had some dumb shit.
But if you read the manga, it's dumber than it fucking sounds. Jesus christ, it becomes such a trainwreck. I hope they don't adapt most of it and just go original.

>>13617462

side story, who cares

also if the option is between solid UC OVAs with too many variants or shitty attempts at AU stories, I'll welcome even more variants

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>>13617491
Isn't Thunderbolt taking place in..oh I dunno. UC?

>>13617399

we're getting the origin dom, anything can happen at this point

probably not for a while though

>>13617510

>shitformers
>doesn't read the thread

you wouldn't be missed you know

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>Zeeks wetting their pants when it's pointed out that it was a Gundam

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>>13617510
No, it doesn't.
You fucking retard. Does that LOOK like UC? No. So why the fuck would you think it is? Do you not see the MASSIVE fucking changes to the designs? Did you forget that it takes place in 0080? WHEN THE WAR SHOULD BE FUCKING OVER IF ITS UC?

God fucking damn.

>>13617455
actually it is you fucker

>>13617297
Good job trolling people who didnt read the manga

>>13617535
Its an AU. Not a retcon. Look at the fucking mech designs. Not to mention the fact Zeon possesses about 3x the ENTIRE canon MS-14 production run ought to tip you off...

>>13617007
IIRC they've retconned the RX-78-1 being a one-off over a decade ago. Gudam Historica has a picture with half a dozen of them in one picture.

It's not the least bit unbelievable that the Thunderbolt is based on one of the RX-78-1's made.

You know I made a thread months-year ago about a UC story taking place in the shoal zone.

Of course my story was hot blooded oldtype teen, working as a scrap metal collector in space, finds abandoned gundam prototype in blown up colony. fights post ZZ zeon remnant pirates.

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Will the OVA/anime finish it's story? I know its 4 episodes but will it end with a cliffhanger or anything?

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>>13617533
>Federation
>Zeon
>Zakus
>Doms
>GM
>Gundam

>Not UC.

>>13617549
No its not you fuckweed it takes place late 0079 Even fucking Ohtagaki confirmed it. Stop making shit up and read the manga

>>13617576
Those don't fucking look like the canon designs at all.

Not to mention Thunderbolt retcons literally everything that happens after November 0079. No Delaz fleet, no Axis, no Glemy, no Titans, no Neo-Zeon.

It is an AU.

>>13617633
Yes, it is AU UC, what is your problem? Have you read any alternative history fiction? In most of them things go very different compared to actual timeline, but the timeline is still called AD.
Here it is the same fucking case.

>>13617533
>All this autism over a different author's interpretation of OYM designs

The gundam looks like shit. Mudrock a best.

>>13617656
Because you morons keep stating that it is not, and that Blunderbolt takes place in the same spacetime as Amuro wrecking shit through Zeon space in MSG. This is not the case.

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>>13617664
thunderbolt gundam looks alright.

>>13617633
When will this meme end. The story takes place from 0079-0080 with the second part moping up Zeon remnants. They don't even touch 0083 and beyond which would be when all that comes into play. It's just another side story and is as much of an AU as 08th MS Team or War in the Pocket. You can decide for yourself whether or not those are "canon"

>>13617679
The Atlas looks like shit, though.

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>>13617679
It's just called the Full Armor Gundam

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>>13617695
that I'll agree, Atlas looks pretty...weird. doesn't even fit in design with anything else in Thunderbolt, except the head
>>13617697
FA Gundams are pretty sweet looking. my favorite one is assault jacket.

I'm digging the soundtrack but having the pilot actually be fucking around with drum sticks in his cockpit is just annoying.

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>>13617714
It's a highly modular prototype testing a new joint system. It's also based around a Ball

>>13615977
Thanks.

It feels like it was made on the same budget as an IBO episode but with more skilled animation. I still like IBO, but wish it had this kind of look.

>RGM-79 GM
>same exact designation as regular GM
>even slightest GM variants have different names
>implying this is the Canon UC

>>13618028

also

HGUC kits: UC gundam
HGAC kits: After Colony - Wing
HGGT: Gundam Thunderbolt

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>UC or Not
Well since we only have the raw for the first 18min episode, do we actually KNOW that the anime version of Thunderbolt won't be UC? Think about the argument over Origin Guntank: while the manga retconned the RX-75 to being old news, the anime version made it the RT-66 or whatever so the RX-75 can still be a brand-new Project V prototype and not break UC continuity. While the Thunderbolt manga may not be in the proper UC timeline, the anime might.

>>13618028
>>13618041

0083 kits: HGUC
0080 kits: HGUC
08th MS kits: HGUC

Thunderbolt Kits: HGGT

Is that some shading I see? And dat BGM. I feel comfy seeing this.

this thing is paced a little quick...

So, this is a post-OYW story, then? Or at least during its immediate aftermath? I feel this is the only way this could fit.

As for those saying it's an AU because it doesn't acknowledge other events that have taken place in the timeline, why does it? Time and history do not move in singular planes. Just because one thing happened in 0079, 0080, 0081, 0083 and so on, doesn't mean another thing can't or didn't. The immediate to post-OYW period prior to the Delaz Fleet uprising is kind of ripe for storytelling material. We're dealing with entire years here. Plenty can happen in a year.

>>13618316

this is just like comic books or anything else where they can tell a story that isn't quite the same or part of the same universe as another story, but still have similar situations and themes

it's just not "pure" UC, it's not trying to shoehorn these events in, it's just saying "here's a different take on UC, wouldn't it be neat if things were like this?"

Most OVAs try to come up with a cool situation or story of course, but ultimately they end up crowding and diluting the timeline. Especially because Thunderbolt started as a manga it makes much more sense to just say "this isn't exactly the same universe as the main UC story, but you get what's going on here"

>>13618341

>crowding and diluting the timeline

to clarify I mean they crowd so many amazing events into such a short period that the timeline is very strange, and they dilute the importance of certain events, such as how special the gundam is supposed to be, when there are 1000 variants of the gundam in 2-3 years

>>13618316
ThiNk of second iraq war for america. The "war" portion ended with capture of saddam husein but there was still fighting from remnant supporters and the various groups that didnt like the u.s. Occupation.

>>13618341
>Especially because Thunderbolt started as a manga it makes much more sense to just say "this isn't exactly the same universe as the main UC story, but you get what's going on here"
I wish the manga authors would do this more often, honestly. Do their own thing without trying fit a square peg into a round hole.

>>13615868
>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3hpbxy_gundam-thunderbolt-first-3-min-preview_tv
holy fukinbg shitm finally some non-gay as balls gundam??? DIE TOMINO, DIE!

If I remember right there was an interview with the mangaka where he said that he was given the go ahead to basically write whatever he wanted without worrying about how well it actually fit into UC or the OYW. That's why we have things like altered designs without changed model numbers, events going down at the end of the war a bit differently and tech developing in a different direction/way (Such as psycommu working on the principle of prosthetics instead of newtypes).

Like >>13618341 said, it's liek cape comics where an author will do a story or short series that isn't part of the main series despite using the same characters, setting, or themes (Such as the walking deadpool, all star superman, etc).

Just enjoy it for what it is without worrying about how things fit.

>>13618355

Yeah I think lots of people probably have cool ideas like Thunderbolt, but trying to cram them into the ever overcrowded UC is just limiting.

Would thunderbolt be any better if it were canon UC? Not really, it would be pretty much the same. Would the UC canon be any better if Thunderbolt were part of it? Arguably it would be WORSE because now you have even more shit to shoddily explain how it fits together.

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This is my dream for the future

>>13618424
I still wonder what the point of giving it hands was. It's not like its holding anything and the arm guns would get in the way if it did anyways.

>>13618424

I love that this makes even less sense than the guntank, the shoulder design would not allow the arms to move forward enough for it to turn on the waist to aim without running into the back tracks, and the fact that it has 4 tracks means it can't do a 360 like a regular tank

>>13618433

Son if you continue that logic this whole board falls apart

>>13618355
No you fucking don't, its the single most massive problem with western comics. Nothing fucking fits and you literally have to number the universes.

>>13618442
I'm not bringing up the issue of the practicality of giant robots or having hands, I just meant in this specific circumstance it seems like an odd and pointless addition. The original doesn't have them, and there doesn't seem to have been any point in adding them to the redesign. It's not like its now carrying beam sabers or a rifle or anything, it's armament seems to be the same as the original designs.

>>13618447

the numbering of the universes is the result of people who feel they must make them fit together for whatever reason, as well as allowing crossover nonsense

it's not a problem at all, just read whichever one you like and who gives a fuck if they don't fit together

otherwise, what is a better solution? every comic book event happens in the SAME universe? Oh sorry earth exploded in this book, guess that's kind of it for all of the other series...

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>>13618478

haha yeah it's just silly, clearly influenced by the R-44

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>>13618493

>>13618424
it looks like whitebase

>>13618493
>>13618505

"Great work team, what advantages does tank mode offer?"

"Well sir, it's much harder for it to aim this way. Also figuring out the transformation used up a huge amount of our budget..."

"Excellent work, men"

>>13618505

I like the retract-o hands, I never actually noticed that before

>>13618517
>On teh plus side it's much more stable when firing the main cannons.
>And it has a higher ground speed, making troop transport faster since it was designed to carry quite a large number of passengers for an MS.

>>13618517
>Alright, guys, listen up. Those dickholes at Zimmad just got that lucrative contract for those aquatic Mobile Suits, but we of Zeonic are going to show the Zabis we deserved it more.
>Anyone got any ideas they'd like to share yet? Go ahead, Armpit.
>Well, boss, what if we just made a Mobile Suit shaped like a bear? Bears hunt fish, right? And fish are aquatic.
>Brilliant. Show it to those guys at R&D, I want a design in three days. Meeting adjourned.

>>13618545

>wait till you've see what lieutenant Broggy has been working on, he calls it the "Zock"

>>13618493
to me it's clearly a rip off of dear hyldorf

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>>13618545
>Not mentioning the aquatic gorilla.

>>13618568

man they got real weird over there

>>13617786

I pray we see this in gunpla form.

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>>13618575
You dare mock superior Zeon MS design?

>We're just going to fucking dig out way to Jaburo!

>>13618545
>Guys, guys, settle down. So the Zudah wasn't a resounding success, okay? We can deal. Anyway, my recent management seminars have taught me we should look towards the future instead of moping about.
>Gringo, I hear you've been working on something. Just throw it out there, we're brainstorming here.
>So those guys at Zeonic have come up with their Gelgoog, right?
>Yeah. Thing will never catch on, though. It's clear they're getting desperate, because just painting the Zaku a different colour won't make it faster.
>Right, boss. Anyway, I was thinking: we've been trying to make an all-new mech that can compete with that Gundam, right? Well, the Gundam's got a shield and a sword, right? I was thinking: what if we slapped a sword and a shield on one of those Rick Doms and only give it vulcans?
>Wait, why wouldn't you give it long-range weaponry?
>I was thinking we could sell it to M'Quve, sir.
>Brilliant. I want a design on my desk by Thursday. Meeting adjourned.

>>13618028
>>13618041
>>13618095
It really doesn't mean shit. it was already confirmed Thunderbolt takes place late UC0079

Also
HGTO: Gundam The origin, an it's canon retelling. Now fuck off with your fanfic bullshit

>>13618545
>ridicule, bears.
>yeah.
>elephants are much bigger.
some tequila to boost, and nine months later, the birth of Juaggu.

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>mfw people never read thunderbolt and think its not canon

You cannot be this stupid /m/

>>13618622
Tomino didn't wrote it, therefore I still say: DIE TOMINO, DIE

>>13618622
you're wrong!

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>>13618622
It's the other way around. People who have read it say it's not canon. Because it very clearly is doing its own thing.

>>13618651
>Char cameo

>>13618517
Lower profile, higher land speed. Also, it transforms, how cool is that

Thunderbolt is official because it got animated but can't fit the UC main line

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>my Gundam series is on a unique platform with Shogakukan’s Superior, so it’s not as tied down. In the beginning, I told them that I wanted to be able to work freely, even if that meant it wasn’t part of the Gundam canon, and they told me I could do what I want. However, that makes it difficult to adapt into anime and Gundam models... I suppose [laugh].

>CS: So it wasn’t that they approached you and said, “Do it at this point in the Universal Century calendar.”

>YO: It’s a bit off from the so-called “correct history,” but I did that on purpose [laugh]. I started off on the sidelines without much attention, which actually allowed some freedom as I wrote and I didn’t have to defend myself, so I decided to change what I wanted, and I think it was good that I could start that way. Being in that position is similar to how it was for the first Gundam, so I’ve been happy with it.
http://otakumode.com/news/52fc76ef80cd488c6b00068f/Interview-with-Mobile-Suit-Gundam-Thunderbolt-Author-Yasuo-Ohtagaki-3-3

>>13618651
I thought Thunderbolt was an UC AU

>>13618695
>I started off on the sidelines without much attention, which actually allowed some freedom as I wrote and I didn’t have to defend myself
well judging by the posts in this thread the autists are coming for you yasuo

>>13618696
It is.

>>13616151
It's a look alike

>>13618612
>Hey, sir, I got an idea for that I-Field thing we've been working on...
>Yes, it would be perfect for a high speed assault mobile armor, wouldn't it?
>No, no, I was thinking of something else
>What's it?
>How about we put it on a battleship sized Mobile Armor that just has a lot of beam cannons around its body?
>It like it, but...
>Then we give it giant legs with toe missiles
>I see...
>And we put the only thrusters between its legs
>Yes...
>Also we give it giant fins that only makes it evil.
>Is it monoeyed?
>With a snout and everything
>Lowcal you earn a promotion and a 200% raise

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>>13617786
If this is true I love it more.

I have a feeling were only getting the main story and not the desert rat arch unless thats considered part of it. But if thats the case the only two uc suits without kits (not including the ball which comes with a magazine.) gm cannon and gun cannon types are only other two I can think of feddie side if memory serves correct. Zeeks have well almost everything thunderbolted if memory serves. So do you guys think they might make some new variants for the ova kinda like what they did with unicorn or is it gonna be to the bones cut down to as close as the manga?

I personally wouldnt mind seeing thunderbolt sector versions of gm sniper custom, gm interceptor, gm juggler, or nightseeker.

>>13618739
>Hey boss!
>What?
>What if we also make it require multiple pilots and be so energy intensive that it is guaranteed to have massive overheating issues
>Brilliant! We'll make a killing on selling replacement parts for repairs!

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>>13618742
It will probably end just before showing the Zeon forces swooping in and capturing everyone after the FAG vs Psycho battle. Maybe end it with the two machines floating around wrecked.

Speaking of, I'm really looking forward to that battle.

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>>13615868
I am onboard 600%

>>13615868
This looks like shit, another shitty UC rehash
ill stick to IBO thanks

>>13618739
>Gentlemen, welcome to the latest meeting of the Anaheim Board of Directors.
>It's a pleasure having you all here, including our new colleagues from the Zeonic/Zimmad merger, but let's get down to business. We've been tapped by the Titans to build a mass-production MS.
>Now, as you all know, the Titans are anti-Zeon to the extreme, and they'll want their Mobile Suits to reflect that. Anyone got an idea?
>Well, boss, what if we just build 'em a better Zaku?
>Those zeeks will never expect it! Good going, kid. Now let's all head out to the golf course, I've got ten grams of space cocaine to snort and only this anti-nuclear weapons treaty to do it with.

>>13618695

GG canonshits, this is the glorious future of quality Gundam properties

>>13618804
>so that damn anaheim is just selling us zakus
>they're even selling us pink zakus
>hey, what if we make our own gundams?
>that's a good idea
>and then we name them after watership down characters
>but then no one will get the reference
>how about we put one of them into a MA that's shaped kinda like a rabbit?
>that's the way to go

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>>13618742
We get Thunderbolt RX-79[G]s for the 2nd part

>>13618841
>no chest launcher
0/10 would not overheat with

>>13618777

>check it out /a/, I totally went over to /m/ and told them how lame thunderbolt was! LOL!

>>13618478
Eject or just dont attack arm mounted weapons, allows for more diverse weapons, ability to stabilize by bracing hands against ground if need be, pick shit up, flip a zeek off, cheaper to give mass produced arms then a single purpose guntank arm type?

>>13618517
well if its like the loto its predecessor which only had missile pod hands its deployed into a colony's to deploy troops, give support, and such, in space treds are useless and legs with tiny adjustments would aid its mobility unlike guntank which was ditched for a guncannon even though it had superior range. Not to mention by this time most of these units were more versatile too using the federations philosophy of a base frame with many variants unlike the original guntank. The loto had tiny manipulator arms to if I remember but I can imagine its more versatile with hands and arm mounted weapons then just a weapon dedicated arm. Probably taking on other tasks like zaku tanks where they used their arms if equipped with arms for construction, and other none combat duties.

>>13618593
I imagine the Agguguy was development went something like...

>God damn it the feddies propaganda is making the acguy look like a joke
>And to make matters worse the females on their bases reportedly call them teddy bears
>We need to scare them, whats scary to women and men? Nameless female got any ideas?
>Female snaps awake from a nightmare/wet dream "Tentacle flies!"
>Delicious! get on it!

>>13618839
>Uh, boss, there's a problem
>Char is requesting some sort of mod to his Zaku
>What, is he complaining about the colour again? I told him we'd paint it more and more pink every time he bitched.
>No, boss. He wants something that'll identify him from a distance, something that shows who the leaders are.
>Really? That sounds retarded. What a.... Wait. I've got it. Jot this down for me, Johnson.
>Slap a dick on his mech's forehead.

>>13618517
>>13618538
>>13618545
>>13618612
>>13618739
>>13618804
>>13618839
Hopefully, a Gundam edit of that boardroom meme will come out of this.

>>13618866
>That Ginias asshole wants a MA that can destroy Jaburo
>Eh, that's stupid, how about we just make something up to shut him up? We've got some beam cannons and some zaku and battleship parts left over anyway
>Hey, how about we make two of them massive balls with a minovsky craft system underneath?
>Hahaha, that's a great idea. Better yet, let's put it's entire sensory array in a Zaku II head.
>Oh yeah, that's smart. Hell, why don't we make the third one one massive slab and put TWO minovsky crafts on it?
>Oh man, you know what? Let's put them on thin frail arms and have a third one to make a tripod
>A tripod? That would be hilarious
>And we make it so the cannon can only fire if the three arms are deployed and planted on the ground
>But beam cannons don't have reco- Oh, I see! Hahahaha, he'll never suspect a thing!
>Hahahaha, I know right? C'mon, let's get out of here and go hit on that cute female soldier. Y'now, the one with the headband.

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>>13618938
speaking of this, what was the reason for making it bigger? allow it to hover longer? longer flight time? more armor? Stabilize power output? I mean the form they tracked down with the desert modifications on their ground gundams had a output that glassed the cannon walls right? it was fast and maneuverable, it was only hindered by the fact they ambushed it.

>sir look at our new amphibious model
>Good good the performance is off the charts, able to used standard weapons... wait wheres its beam weapons?
>well we had to cut it from the budget to increase output for land base combat.
>And those metal things on top, do those help navigate under water?
>Sorry sir, those were added by your nephew... the suit lobs them like throwing stars
>That god damn Narutard

>>13618976
>what was the reason for making it bigger?
I imagine making the beam stronger, or allowing for multiple shots in short time.

>>13615868
So begins the saga of grimdark blue destiny.

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Quite a lot jammed into 15 minutes. I went ahead and read the manga, and I'm guessing the format will be this:

Episode 1: Defeating the snipers and getting the Gundam
Episode 2: Gundam vs Zaku 1
Episode 3: Beginning of War and Psycho Zaku
Episode 4: Gundam vs Zaku, end of war

For what is essentially an hour of animation, they really are packing a lot into the adaptation. If only it didn't take so long between each episode (though 2 months is pretty fair compared to 1-and-a-half year for unicorn.)

>>13615868

>>tisk tisk tisk tisk tisk tisk
>>ding a-ling a-ling

I miss Unicorn's orchestra

>>13619211
I also miss Hiroyuki "every song is exactly the same" Sawano

>>13619210
>dead qt
This is my least favorite thing.

>>13619217
That wasn't the case with Unicorn, it inly became obvious when he kept reusing tracks from Unicorn in his later works.

>>13619239
>sawano never EVER made music before Unicorn
epic

>>13619240
>Zombie Loan and Sengoku Basara OST sound exactly like Unicorn

Found the Sawano newshit

>>13619240
Except that's not what he said. He's saying that he wasn't known for being a one-trick pony until after Unicorn when he kept reusing track from it. The Unicorn OST is still fantastic regardless of his current output.

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>>13619230
It only gets worse, my friend.

>>13619258
>cute girl
>great smile
Why is this always a massive fucking "I die on the next page" flag?

>>13619261
To be worse, she's just the ship's nurse in a crew full of artificial-limb soldiers and is forced to be taking a turret seat during a heated battle. She barely fires even a shot, but gets instantly vaporized when the Gundam mistakens her turret for the one on the side that's firing at him. And it's not even the worst one yet.

I feel ambivalent towards Io. On one hand, it sure is a relief to see an actual adult pilot, instead of the obnoxious kids the Federation usually finds to pilot Gundams (Amuro, Kamille, Judau, Shiro, Uso).
On the other hand, he's an arrogant son of a bitch who most definitely deserves a bullet to the head.

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>>13619278
>mfw spoiler
I don't want to watch this anymore...

>>13616106
Yeah, that's a good point. I love jazz but it's cool they incorporated it into the MC's character.

>>13619251
>>13619257
HELLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO reddit

>>13617572

End with the duel between Io and Daryl. Either end with them working out their differences, or just have one going "The war's not over yet." Really, you could actually make Thunderbolt's ending very upbeat with some minor changes.

After the duel, both Mobile Suits are wrecked. Neither pilot has any reason to continue fighting, and all they can do is to wait for their ships to pick them up. They briefly chat and realize they have a lot in common, and possibly exchange radios.

We end with a fast-forward seven months later. Io, to a cheering crowd, gets into his new Gundam and flies off in formation through the skies of a rebuilt Mua. Daryl stands ankle-deep in water on a sandy beach somewhere, listening to the speech on the radio. After a while, he hears his mother and sister calling him to the house for dinner - he turns and walks up the steps.

Meanwhile, Io glances down at the small artificial island during his flyover, smiles, and flies the Gundam off into the sunset. It's a fairly low-key ending, but it's happier than "Shit is still going down postwar."

>>13618651

Does it really matter? I mean, the OYW was BIG. It was a cataclysmic event. There are so many fronts to the war, you could tell countless stories. Like, even the stuff here could be swallowed up by the sheer scale of the conflict. You don't need Amuro Ray or Char to show up for the events in Thunderbolt to happen.

I mean, what are the historical effects of Thunderbolt? A less-efficient Psycommu prototype that requires maimed soldiers, and the destruction of one Gundam. That's it. It's like telling a story about the Black Devils Brigade (the Canadians) fighting the fascists in Italy during WWII, which people know relatively little about.

>>13618841

I'll point out that the girl in this picture later becomes a main character. Her entire body is covered by tattoos, and she plays a mean piano.

Seriously, it's later shown that she has jam sessions with Io and a handful of other pilots between sorties.

>>13619284

Really? I like him a lot. I like that he's death-obsessed and drunk on adrenaline. That kind of devil-may-care recklessness hiding a bone-deep desire for self-destruction is very appropriate to something Top Gun-ish.

So what is the difference between the yellow and white pilot suits, did they ever explain that?

Or why the white base crew (besides Bright) wore the blue or pink uniforms when it seems everyone else in the Federation just has khaki ones.

>>13619584
I assume a while spacesuit means you have a commission as a flight lieutenant or whatever.

I assume the blue/pink thing from first Gundam is that those uniforms were for cadets or people who were below the age of majority.

>>13619584
While had three children doing there washing and they fucked up and all the colours ran

>>13619592
I thought gundam pilots were like real life where you have to be an officer of one kind or another before they let you pilot something.

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Does Amuro/Char/Kamille show up in these at all?

What about Kou?

Shiro?

Those Zeon kids from episode 13 of 08th MS Team?

These punk ass kids?

>>13619610
>>13619592

Officers and actual staff get the beige/white uniforms. Cadets and stuff got the blue/pink.

White pilot suit was for main characters. But, I'm pretty sure it's just for aces or commanders in-story.

>>13619636
Why do aces get so much leeway in Gundam stories in regards to their suits and uniforms? No real military would let an ace jet fighter pilot paint his F-35 bright red, for example.

>>13619675
Because its a cartoon and its cool. And sells more toys.

>>13619675
Charr is basically the Red Baron. Everyone else gets standard colors in 0079, but we found out in MSV those were also their personal colors.

>>13618695
Huh, so they allow that sort of thing, huh? That's cool

>>13619675
Well back in World War II you could get more iconic markings.

Not like now where low visibility radar absorbent paintwork has legitimate technical advantages superior to the psychological impact of OH SHIT IT'S THE BLACK TULIP.

>>13619551
>Her entire body is covered by tattoos

P-pics or gtfo...

>>13619675
Because an ace with a crappy mobile suit is still better than a rookie with a good mobile suit.

>>13619706

Wait for the Vol. 6 raws. The only part that she hasn't covered yet is her ass.

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>>13619717

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>>13619704
>playing Ace Combat 4
>last mission where all your allied fighters have the Mobius-One ribbon design and you can hear all the enemy pilots shitting their pants it's an entire wing of fighters with ribbon markings.
I need to replay AC4.

>>13619731
>Each and every one of your wingmates is promptly shot down if you decide to just gun it for Megalith

Psychological warfare can only get you so far

>>13619731
When you do pay special attention to how plot-armored the Yellows are, and how they job hard to Ribbon because the plot demands it.

>>13619717
>vol. 6
The viewers need to see this series as much as possible, legally.

>>13619536

it's more like every single air battle in WWII being fought by an INSANE secret prototype that had never been seen before, every fucking week of the year

>>13619747
>tfw I did exactly that.
The Psychological Warfare actually worked, as far as I'm concerned. I had almost no one on me as I skimmed the ocean and beelined directly for Megalith. Those other fighters existed solely to give me a clear shot at Megalith.

Also that stage music was fucking boss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBoiW460nU

>>13619756
I do recall the first time the Yellows showed up I tried so hard to shoot down even one but they were always so much faster then me so I never had them in gun range and so easily broke my missile locks. But at the time I just assumed it was because I wasn't a good Ace Combat player.

>>13619826
>Comrade Stechkin, what in the of fuck is that?
>Comrade Tokarev, you come to me showing rifle of automatic loading last week. This week, I show you plans for handgun of automatic firing! Will greatly revolutionize how the Motherland wages war, no?

>>13619610
>I thought gundam pilots were like real life where you have to be an officer of one kind or another before they let you pilot something.
No, there are neither requirements nor security on the Gundams. Any neurotic teenager who steals one will always be allowed to keep and pilot it. No one has ever taken a stolen Gundam back from a teenager, and nearly all of them have been civilians. Very few Gundam pilots were even in the military, much less officers.

>>13619886
>who is Shiro
>who is Christina
>who is Kou

>>13619895
>who is Amuro, Kamille, Judau, Kira, Garrod, Banagher, Elle, Heero, Duo, Trowa, Wufei, Quatre, Uso, Domon
I'm just going to stop there, no sense in listing everyone in G Gundam. Also you forgot Mark and (arguably) Mikazuki, but still the number of Gundam pilots who are actually in the military is the distinct minority.

>>13619931
Why would you even include G Gundam in that list? The Gundams in FC aren't used for military purposes, nor can they be stolen by someone who isn't a superhuman martial artist. Or Rain.
>distinct minority
Every Gundam pilot in Seed is in the military, except for Kira, and by the time of Destiny they're all part of some military organization.
CB is a terrorist group, but maybe you can count them as "military".
Asemu join the feds after he graduates, and Zeheart is a high ranking vegan.
Nearly every other non animated side story protagonist is on the military too.

>>13619931
>Domon
>Teenager

Nigga he was 20.

>>13619931
> Wing boys
While they are teenagers, they're also terrorists who were part of the organization that built the Gundams. You could argue Wufei stole his but the others were assigned theirs.

> Garrod
Stole his sure. Then joined up with some other Vultures because this is Mad Max land to begin with and there's not much of an organized military.

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>>13619886
>Any neurotic teenager who steals one will always be allowed to keep and pilot it. No one has ever taken a stolen Gundam back from a teenager,

Like Hell they haven't. This putz swiped a Mk-II once.
Never again.

>>13620004
CB is not military, they're paramilitary at best, same as G-Unit.
>every Gundam pilot in Seed
is in a stolen Gundam. At least until Athrun is given the Justice and Rau gets the Providence. No, wait...there was that other short-lived Athrun suit but I don't recall its name. Destiny had a few more. Shinn had Impulse and Destiny, Rey had Legend, and Stellar had Destroy all assigned to them by the military.
>non animated side story
>non animated
>relevant
lol no. That does remind me, though, you can add lo to the list of military Gundam pilots now that Thunderbolt is animated.
>Asemu join the feds
and then goes AWOL to become a space pirate, taking (stealing) his Gundam with him. AGE is actually a very good example of Gundams being given to little kids instead of military officers if you think about it. All three AGE pilots were schoolchildren when they started piloting and already had their Gundam when they went into the military, and it wasn't taken away from them. Woolf almost took one, but he lost the bet.
Seed does have an unusually high percentage of military Gundam pilots. And I suppose we should also add in the Frost Brothers. If you consider the Gun-EZ and Gunblaster to be Gundams then you finally get a clear majority of Gundam pilots who are military. But if you just look at show protags, it's still a very small minority.
But anyway, the point stands that you do not have to be an officer to pilot a Gundam, they'll let anyone in them.

>>13620074
>the others were assigned theirs.
Didn't "Trowa" get his by killing the real Trowa Barton?
>not much of an organized military in X
Yes there are. Two, in fact, and the Frieden was not part of either fleet they were a private "business".

>>13619210
Yeah, i made similar predictions when it was announced. Also because it's only 15 minutes each and they're faithfully sticking to the source material, it seems logical they'll be able to get the episodes out in a much faster rate. Regardless, it's going to end with Daryl and Io face to face in the cell. Unless they alter the ending where Io gets away with his guys in an escape craft

>>13619731
>You now realize the Yellows in that mission were nothing but nuggets who received minimal training from Yellow 13.
>They're still good enough to beat the shit out of the ace of ace squadron of ISAF.

>>13619886
They made Amuro a lieutenant though.

The only thing I don't like is that they seemed to have taken the hard edge away from the Captain. She seems so soft, when in the manga it was a surprise that she kisses the MC because she seems like a no-nonsense hardass.

But damn, that soundtrack. Dem tones. Fucking A.

>>13620074
Wufei "stole" his, but he was part of the organization that commanded it; he stood in for his dead fiancee. Trowa legit gundamjacked his suit, killing the real pilot and stealing his name.

>>13621261

Except that the mechanic with the scientist killed the real Trowa Barton because he "had a family on earth". Trowa just said he wouldn't mind taking his name. As such, Doktor S just said forget Operation Meteor and do what you have to do. No gundamjack and no killing.

Get your facts straight.

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>Thunderbolt takes place in Shoal Zone
>IBO heading into Shoal Zone

DEEPEST LORE TOTALLY PLANNED

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>>13615868
>those garbage mech designs
feels pretty goo be an IBO fan right now

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>>13621962
>non /m/ reaction images

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>>13621971
>muh board culture

>>13621962
>>13618864
hehe epic!

>>13621962

IBO has literally the ugliest main gundam of all time

>the end of the show is live action scene of tomino waking up from a nightmare

>>13621971
>Turn a
fuck off you tomino cocksucker go back to your greco containment thread

>>13622230

wow why are you so cranky /a/

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>>13622065
atleast theyve actually tried to make something unique and interesting instead of just rehashing the same old dated designs from 30 years ago

>>13622247
>overcompensating: the mecha

>>13622247

it's so different it could be an astray variant!

>>13619536
That's kinda bullshit. 0079 covered the majority of the OYW MS battles, and it wasn't until later that they started adding more and more lore. Making the war much larger in scale then initially envisioned. The whole '50% of the population dying' was from the colony drop and colony gassings and the initial battles between ships.

REMEMBER: It was just one fucking year. WW2 was half a decade and only killed off 3% of the population.

>>13622594
During WW2, technology wasn't as far as advanced as in the UC universe. Let's not forget that there were also far more nukes used, and much more powerful ones then were available during WW2.

Man, the episode was great. The OST is toptier and so is the animation. Now we just wait for translations.

For those interested: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=765552&showfiles=1&showcomments=67526f80

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4Moore Thunderbolt Episodes! 4Moore Thunderbolt episodes!

Let's all write deaththreats to Bandai demanding 4Moore episodes!

>>13622594
>The whole '50% of the population dying' was from the colony drop and colony gassings and the initial battles between ships.

No, it was what's called the One Week War, where both sides just indiscriminately nuked the shit out of each other. That's why no one is nuking each other in the show.

thunderbolt focuses more on the everyman pilot and less on newtypes and gundams right?

>>13621962
/a/ get out of here right now.

>>13622230
Go back to /a/.

>>13622247
>that gif
someone failed perspective class at art school

>>13623002
There's a significant subplot about Psycommu research and there are some vague hints that the Zeon protag might be an emerging newtype, but the series doesn't get much into that. His main strength is that he eventually pilots a specialized Psycho Zaku that is controlled directly through the nerve connectors of his prosthetic limbs which gives him great control over it.

>>13622247
I hope they rehash Cima's death with that giant gun barrel.

>>13618433
the guns on the arms are removable, it can allow your mobile suit to manipulate stuff if those guns arent available or if they need to move scaffolding or equipment etc

the point is, why not just add some hands to your suit on the offchance they might be needed

>>13616495
>(Earh is half empty and the Federation doesn't control everything)

I can't say I totally mind this. It's always been a thing that the Federation exported tons of people to the space colonies, and the whole OYW/Zeon remnants thing makes a lot more sense in the context of a half-empty Earth with little in the way of garrison troops. As I understand it, Thunderbolt is positing a power struggle between the Asian bloc of the EF and the central government, right? I'm not sure that's entirely unrealistic.

>>13621906
Did the good hakase have authority over the Gundam, or was he just the guy watching over it for the Bartons? Because if he didn't have ownership, that's like the valet dude throwing you the keys and telling you to enjoy the car.

>>13623123
He killed a guy with it at point blank in the first episode where they went to space, didn't he?

>>13621962
You can't fool me, greckt.

>>13622806
I'm not sure if it's just this file or if it's the leak but the framerate is super choppy when I play it on my comp. No other file is this bad.

>>13623256
It's the leak. The framerate is 23 fps instead of the typical 24, so there's definately some missing frames compared to what is actually going to be published on the 25th

>made by the same studio that made trainwrecko and unicorny
Yeah no thanks

>>13623361
>same franchise as g-reco
DROPPED

Why the fuck am i waiting for subs if i already read the manga, im fucking stupid

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>>13623113
Fucking this! I get that Newtypes are supposed to be Eldar level psychic badasses, but haptic controlled super Zakus make a shit ton more sense in context than waiting for Rain Man.

Of course they will probably just respond by saying it went against Daikuns ideal Newtype revolution.

>>13623417
>mecha

DROPPED

>>13623639
>using a looted shield as cover
At least he had the presence of mind to repaint it before bringing it to the battle.

>>13623680
How many fucking buckets of space paint did they have to import from Zeon to repaint that shield

>>13623706

>Hm, Bob, wouldn't you think that would be better ask the mechanics to repair your shoulder armor, rather than make them spend an entire day, painting that shield you get from that GM?
>What? Nah, sgt.Topp, sir, I know what I'm doing, am a professional soldier.
>Ok Bob, dont gonna press you on this matter...
> And you know what? I think I gonna bring my long cannon, that I need two hands to operate, with my new shield.
>......

And now you know why they got Arty, the new guy, on 8th team.

>>13623741
>>13623639
How long did it take you to realize this was Topp's Team from 08th MS?

>>13618614
>Now fuck off with your fanfic bullshit
You mean Thunderbolt, right?