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Remember, this is the future you chose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKiLsbWiHY#t=41
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why would you watch this /m/
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>>13612931
Looks fine to me desu senpai
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The soundtrack sounds very FF XII-ish for me, so Yoko Kanno confirmed?
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>>13612996
You're deaf as shit
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>>13612922
>CG looks even worse than Frontier

Sure was worth the 7 year wait amirite?
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>>13612922
That CGI is pretty awesome. Yep. Awesome.
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>>13612922
that's it i'm too old for modern anime
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>AKB 2.0
>hotblooded Meltradi waifu
>CG is acceptable
what's the problem?
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>>13613140
>>13613041
>CG is acceptable
Its not easy being blind I see
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THAT looks like shity visual novel. And tons of colorful girls, wich means worse plot than Frontier had.
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>>13612922

gross
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Is this GONZO?
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>>13612922
Team idol vs Team "Needs a good smack in the mouth for being so broody and edgy".
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>>13613252
Worse.

It's Satelight.
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>>13612922
Music is good.
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Certainly is a better future than what we got.

The lesser of two evils.
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>>13612922
Macross has quite literally gotten worse with every installment, save Plus. What did you expect?
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>>13613315
I love how everyone excludes Plus from the shitpile with the only excuse they ever give being muh plane porn. Really shows how reliable /m/s opinion on things is.
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>>13613335
Plus had a nice, grounded, self-contained story. You can't say that about the others. SDF's story was good as well. You genuinely can't say that II, 7, Zero and Frontier had stories that weren't completely pants on head retarded or just stupid.
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>>13613396
Actually I can say Zero's was neither.

Because Zero, rather than being trippy and dumb in an acceptably Macross way, was just unfocused garbage shit through and through.

It's a total affront to storytelling.
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>>13613396
Yes I can, and you can't do anything about that because it's my opinion, and opinions can't be wrong or criticized.
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Idols and fujoshi antagonist are better than a high school students and bugs, at least will we have a more human conflict
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>>13613433
>more human conflict
Only problem with that is, said humans don't seem like the culture-addled giants or life-sucking vampires from earlier entries. Having regular viral victims isn't quite as colorful as those.

>>13612922
It was going to happen anyway, because Kawamori's idol boner will never stop.
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>>13613410
>was just unfocused garbage shit through and through.
Just like 7
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>>13612922
>CG mecha
And it's shit. Poor Macross deserve better.
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>>13613410
Zero was fine.
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>>13613431
>opinions can't be wrong or criticized.
But that's the thing, opinions can be wrong and they can be criticized.
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>>13612996
Why did no tell me Yoko Kanno is a cutie
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>>13613431
>and opinions can't be criticized.
But that's wrong.
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>>13613683
Have you been living under a rock since 2002? Macross has been using CG for more than 10 years now.
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>>13613625
>implying
7's story was incredibly focused. It's about Basara getting everyone to listen to his song.
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>>13612922
This is a future that should've never come to pass.
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Why does it need such a bloated cast right off the bat?

Reminds me of Evol.
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>>13612922
When the fuck they will understand the right way to make anime is by hand drawing and using no computer graphics, like 1970~1980!?
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>>13614456
waifuwars -> discussion -> free advertisement -> sales
Love Live or Kancolle aren't popular because it's good, but because autists obsess over waifus
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>>13614643
>Kancolle
>small c
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>>13612922
looks so fucking gay

remember when Macross Plus was so amazing along with DYRL and Macross Zero

now Macross is gay
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>>13615208
>remember when Macross Plus was so amazing along with DYRL and Macross Zero
Nice bait.
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>>13615215
its the truth faggot get that bait and fish your dick out of your ass
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I'm not a "All modern pop appeal" is bad kind of guy, but this certainly seems to cross a certain line even Frontier knew not to cross.
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>>13615238
>thinking there was ever a line
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>>13615250
Which Macross was this? I thought I had seen all of them.
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>>13613293
>Music is good.

no its not. sounds like leftover music from a JRPG loading screen.

compared to what came before it, its pretty fucking terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60_Z9Z10oTk
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>>13615262
maross gay
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>>13615262
Macross 7. They had two idol groups and one of them was a boyband.
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>>13614456
the cast so far is insignificant in comparison to G-Reco or ibo and every other recent mecha with more that 13 episodes
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>>13615262
>not remembering Jamming Birds
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>>13614577
>1970~1980

literally the worst years of animation history.
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>>13612922
Who put idol shit in my giant robots?
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I really have a hard time believing any of these characters will be able to maintain any significant presence and go through decent character development if their all competing for attention amongst such a gigantic cast.

Unless there's like, one guy and one girl who will get all the glory and it's just not apparent yet.
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>those character designs
>those 3DCG valkyries
Just kill me now.
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>>13615295

Which rock did you hibernate under in the 2000s? Valks have been CG in Zero and Frontier.
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>>13615282
Um did you ever watch Macross man?
It was always about popstars and songs.

Jesus.
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>>13615314
There were never any idols in Macross before Frontier.

Source: I think I saw Robotech once when I was four.
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>>13615303
I've been pretending that Macross anime haven't come out after Plus.
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>>13615314
Popstars and gross idol shit isn't the same thing, and you know it.
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>>13615324
Plus ain't even that good outside the animation. And Sharon Apple only had one good song.

Fight me.
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>>13615328
Except they were, Minmay was an idol. They call her that, and she's indistinguishable from a modern idol.
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>>13615328
Explain the difference. We're waiting.
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>>13615332
I'm a sucker for bromantic rivalries, sue me.
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>>13615319
Well then what is Minmay?
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>>13615332
>Plus ain't even that good outside the animation.
Compared to what? The other Macross series? LOL
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You guys are missing the fucking point. Sure, Minmay was an idol in the modern sense, but the show wasn't "about" her and her singing, it was just a gateway to the larger story of first contact.

SDF, DYRL, Plus: Shows about jet mecha with music subplots.

7, Frontier, Delta: Shows about idols with jet mecha subplots.

It's bullshit alright, but you can't pretend like this is anything new.
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>>13615409
>7, Frontier, Delta: Shows I haven't watched
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>>13615409
What happened at the end of Delta?. time traveler kun
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Those character design will never not be a sin against humanity.
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>>13615409

>7
>about idols at all

It's about the power of rock and roll, man.

And stock footage. But mostly about how rock music revives the soul and helps you fight spess vampires.

And Frontier really didn't have too much of an emphasis on the idol thing either. Certainly no more so than the original series or DYRL. There's still more than enough dogfights.
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>>13615463
Agreed. Nothing will ever reach the perfect animation and designs of the original IMO to be honest mate.
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>>13612922
Is that a grown-up Ranka?
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>>13612922
Did you know that that giant battleship is the same size as the frigates from Macross 7? It's just fatter.

Is the redhead just the purple-hair without her stage make-up on?
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>>13615292
The boy and girl who were fighting will be the main characters. The idols are just there to be raped.
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>>13615409
Did you not read the Kawamori interview on Forbes? The whole point of Kawamori is that he doesn't want it to be about war and shit, he wants it to be about how music can change things. That's why we got 7.
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>>13615473
Jam it up your dick you conformist fuck.
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>>13615208
>now
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the angry elf pilot girl is gonna get shafted in terms of art for the idolrus isn't she
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>>13615389
a
shit
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I for one welcome our idol overlords
Kawamori DOES IT AGAIN
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>>13615337
she's from a show made in the 80's
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I have nothing against idols per se, but goddamn does the plot sound stupid.

>VARS syndrome makes people violent
>Sing at them and cure them
>We hate Earth, time to declare war
>10-12 main characters
This is retarded.
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>>13615607
as opposed to
>vampires mindfucking people
>sing at them to cure them

>they have a cool ship boss let's jack it
>declares war

The huge cast list is probably like AKB48 where only a handful are relevant
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>>13615607
>This is retarded.
It took you 6 installments to realize this?
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>>13615619
No, I'm saying this transcends all previous Macross entries in retardation. I forgot to include the stupid Valkyrie designs, which really push it over the top.

>>13615612
7 is probably the second-worst offender, but it's not complete shit when you understand what's going on and why.
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>>13615628
>7 is probably the second-worst offender, but it's not complete shit when you understand what's going on and why.
Wow, it's like you're shitting on Delta because you barely understand a damn thing about it. The first episode isn't even out you autistic fuck.
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>>13615628
>No, I'm saying this transcends all previous Macross entries in retardation.
Zero still exists so no it hasn't. That was made at the same time as Arjuna.
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>>13613431
>opinions can't be criticized
Where do you think you are?
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>>13615208
Zero was shit and so is eva, stop trying to add depth and story to things that aren't there. This isn't/co/ /lit/ or tumblr.
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>>13615657
But Zero has internal logic that makes sense. 7 doesn't.
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>>13615269
Its as uninspired as the music in aldnoah zero.
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>>13615628
YOU TALKING SHIT BOUT DRAKEN SON?
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>>13615762
>Zero made sense
>Birdman
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I'm watching Delta for the cute girls, music and valkyries. The orange-hair girl is very cute.

When does this start airing?
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>>13615873
>Birdman
Well, yes, it makes sense with what we're given in all the others.
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Macross Plus belongs in the trash along with everything else Watanabe has made.
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>>13616157
Preview episode is the 31st.
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>>13616172
Good post!
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>>13612922
You mean Macross EVOL, right?
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>>13616197
Y-you too!
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>>13616187
I like the look of the VF-31. It seems to be a small-but-nice refinement of the YF-30. The new nosecone transformation is nice, as is the reduction in fuselage length in Battroid mode, allowing the weapon pod to be stowed even in Battroid mode.
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>>13616227
Strangely the prototype toy doesn't have the weapon pod in battroid. The gunpod is also missing even though we can see it in the trailer.
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>>13616271
Probably because the weapon pod isn't done yet. In the trailer, you see the pod fold out into twin over-the-shoulder cannons, and they haven't finished the moulding for that yet. So they just put a generic filler pod on for fighter mode.

Here, you can see how the fuselage section behind the cockpit now folds down, to provide enough clearance for the weapon pod to remain stowed in Battroid mode. At least, I THINK there's enough room.
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>>13615193
Is this a new meme autists use?
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I'll watch it even though I haven't seen any Macross shows beforehand.
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So blue guy is obviously the main character right?
The VF shares his colors too
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>>13615324

So keep doing it? Why do you need to kill yourself instead of doing something that you've been doing with years?
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>>13615490

He also says he did the same thing with SDF and only couldn't manage it with DYRL because of time constraints.
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>>13616157
>Watching anime because of cute girls
Fuck off back to /a/.
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>>13616338
But anon, it's Macross.
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>>13616342
So what ? I'll never understand the waifufags.
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>>13616347
>liking cute girls makes you a waifufag
Please stop pretending to be retarded.
It's not like I'm only watching it for the cute girls. I'm watching it because it's Macross. The cute girls are merely one factor.
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>>13615269
Naw
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>>13616271
>>13616289
If we go by this video it looks like the VF-31 will use a some sort of sword instead of a gunpod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLo1Stshxp4
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>>13617548

I've never played Monster Hunter, but that looks like the kind of RPG weapon I'd expect is taken from that to give some Monster Hunter flavor to the design since it's supposed to be a mix of the two.
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Macross a shit
Orguss #1
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Was I supposed to see something wrong with this trailer?

Haven't kept up with this project, but that trailer looked fine.
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>>13612922
Пиздeц хyйня.
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>>13617573
Monster Hunter have pistol and the setting of delta looks more or less pseudo mediaeval so, i think there is a possibility of the valkyries using swords in this new macross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O14hBk2hAVY
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>>13615193
Who are you quoting?
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>>13617874
You're looking into it too hard. Felynes can't use guns so they gave it that polearm looking weapon.
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>>13618922
I dunno man, there's supposed to be a sort of "knights" angle this time around.
I would not at all be surprised if they had swords.
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>>13614643

LL is popular because it's by far the best show of that kind.
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>>13612922

I'll take idols over a boring dude like that Frontier fag. Shit, I can't even remember his name.
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>>13620760
That's not saying much at all.
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>>13613433
Why the fuck did Frontier even have a school?
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>>13620810
Considering they're entire culture revolves around jet bots and idols might as well setup a school for it
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>>13620736
Yes, and that's the antagonist team "The Aerial Knights" and they don't fly the VF-31.
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>>13620810
>why did a space colony have a school
Literal retard.
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>>13620828
Yeah, but if they have swords then logically the other team should too.
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>>13620898
Doesn't seem like it.
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>>13620936
The sheathe could be integrated into the airframe.
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>>13620810

so the teenagers had something to do during the days then went to work being heroes in the night as idols and mercenaries duh
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>>13620810
>Why did an organized society have a school?
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>>13620898
They're going to have axes, obviously. Since axes are evil and for antagonists only.
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idk im excited
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Female cockblock 3.0 here we go!
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If Macross is such a big franchise why does it just look like... Comet Lucifer with shittier CGI?

I guess we are stuck with Frontier style for life now. I wish they would just do stuff outside the original canon like Gundam.
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>>13620936
I know it's actually 3 really but
>single engine Variable Fighter
I don't know why the cockpit hatch is still canopy shaped though.
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I watched SDF, DYRL and Plus, should i just quit?
I watched the first episodes of 7 and it seems fine other than being much sillier than the previous entries
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>>13622545
>I wish they would just do stuff outside the original canon like Gundam.
Why the fuck? Macross has pretty much unlimited scope for storytelling anyways.
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>>13622638
No. Keep going.
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>>13622653
>Macross has pretty much unlimited scope for storytelling anyways.
Thanks for the laugh
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>>13623052
What do Plus and Seven share besides three robot designs?
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>>13622638
No. 7 is silly but I ended up enjoying it more than I expected.
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>>13612922
>satelight
Oh jesus shy
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>>13615409
How is simply having a plot about idols at all bad if it's well written and focuses on developing the characters? I didn't mind the idolfaggotry in Frontier because it was worked into Sheryls character.
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>>13623052
Yes, as opposed to Gundam rehashing the same earth vs colony crap every year. The last time Gundam did anything different was GBF and that was just Beyblade but with Gundam toys.
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>>13623091
>I didn't mind the idolfaggotry in Frontier because it was worked into Sheryls character.
Who just so happens to be shit.
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>>13623122
Great argument, retard.
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>>13623103
G-Reco was last year
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>>13623103
>Criticizing Gundam fir rehashing the same shit
>When Macross has been rehashing the same shit for over 30 years.
>Frontier was an anime that focused on idols
>Delta is an anime that'll focus on idols
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>>13623202
Frontier is the only Macross that focused on idols.
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>>13613335
Seeing as plane porn is the only thing about Macross that can objectively be called "good," yes, it gets a free pass for having a mediocre plot.

Most people wouldnrather have a "meh" story with "meh" characters and great dogfights than a shit story with obnoxious characters and great dogfights.
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>>13623271
But Plus does have a shit story and obnoxious characters.
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>>13623363
Here's your reply
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>>13621279
>>13620830
There were no schools in SDF, II, PLUS, 7, and Zero so why the apparent dressing in Frontier when they didn't even spend time there?
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>>13623405
The school in Frontier was a pilot training academy, it was a justification for Alto jumping in a fighter different than Hikaru's underage aerobatic pilot thing.
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>>13623405
SDF, and Plus didn't have rock bands so why did 7 have them? SDF didn't have hologram idols so why did Plus have them? You're an idiot. Shut up.
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>>13623405
There probably were, it's just that we didn't need to show them since it wasn't important to the characters
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>>13623463
>SDF, and Plus didn't have rock bands so why did 7 have them?
There was no requirement for them.

>SDF didn't have hologram idols so why did Plus have them?

Because you had the actual thing.
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>>13623405
Why didn't they have schools in SDF? Hikaru and Minmay were 16 but we never seen them even mention school.
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>>13623508
The Unification wars were a bad time for education
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>>13623511
By the time SDF happened the unification wars were over.
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>>13623202
OK so here's my idea
Gundam that's about idols
Macross that's about federation vs notzeon
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>>13624563
Gundam SEED Destiny and Macross Zero then?
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>>13624563
>Macross that's about federation vs notzeon
Zero
also looks like delta will have some of that too
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>>13613433
I think you mean fujoshi bait as the term fujoshi pretty much translates to rotten girl the term for the type of charter seen in the PV is Bishonen or Bishi for short
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>>13614577
hears a list as to why thow I love hand drawn animation it is no longer viable to use it

1:(cost) cel animation is ludicrously expensive this day and age

2:(time) the time in witch to do cel animation is on average 2 to 3 times as long witch feeds into the first issue of cost the longer a animator needs to draw the more the studio needs to pay then (tho granted animators get payed shit for the hours they work )

cgi and computer animation isint the issue its the studio half sassing the job and just pushing shit out when they could spend a bit more time to integrate everything together better
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http://tamashii.jp/special/macross/
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>>13624863

In regards to "CGI is cheaper," what about in making video games? Why do Arc System Works and Examu get to continue doing hand drawn animation for their games, wherein Capcom stopped doing so as of Street Fighter IV?
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>>13625108
>Not available in your country
SOMEONE WANNA RIP IT?
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>>13625186
Arc System Works uses CGI for backgrounds in BlazBlue, and for EVERYTHING in Guilty Gear Xrd.
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>>13615269
It kind of reminded me of an Ace Combat soundtrack, especially when it "swells" at 1:02.

The only thing that worries me about Delta is that it seems pretty similar to Frontier. I don't love every Macross series, and I'd like something that harkens back to SDF Macross, like a "Space War II," but I still like how each installment looks, feels and acts so different from the rest. And that's why I'm looking forward to Delta, to see how it cuts itself off from the rest of the franchise, while still respecting and expanding the continuity.
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>>13625218

When I imagine "hand drawing vs CGI" in fighting games, I think sprites. Compare sprite work in Arc's current games to character models in Street Fighter IV.
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>>13623508
Because in SdF they were literally being chased around by Zentradi.
In 7 and Frontier it's an established colony, already prepared for this sort of thing, but the stakes in SDF are more dire.
I don't get why all of Frontier's special forces needed to be high school students on a ship that's guaranteed to already have plenty of military personnel, but that's neither here nor there.
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>>13625418
>I don't get why all of Frontier's special forces needed to be high school students on a ship that's guaranteed to already have plenty of military personnel,
SMS is a military contractor which Michael and Luca were already part of. Michael joined because his older sister was a former NUNS pilot and he showed exceptional judgment skills and being a natural sniper. Luca joined by being a child prodigy and having family connections to SLAI. All of them including Alto were aready part of the school flight team that uses a civilian version of the EX-gear the military uses.
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http://macross.jp/delta/character/
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>>13612922

The male team has fighters with SV designation instead of VF. SV units were the anti UN variable fighters in Macross Zero. So, the enemy is a resurgent Anti UN?
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>>13625186
The sprites for that one KOF game killed SNK
Now they're making PS2 games
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>>13625186
You want a sick joke? The Butoden game on 3ds might as well be sprite based because of hardware limitations.

Cost is relative anyway.
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>>13625186
>>13625624
Is it any wonder why indie game projects require crowdfunding sometimes? Granted, they sometimes just need it for bonus features/extra ports.
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>>13625186
Serious Sam 3 had a budget of less than a million
Dragon's Crown had way more
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>>13625630
Yeah but then there's labor of love stuff.

Shovel Knight is like an exercise in doing it for the art.
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She's gonna win, isn't she?
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I will watch because the girls look cute desu
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>>13625680
We don't even know what the fuck it's going to be about
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>>13625856
We do, actually. We know quite a lot.
There's some shit about a disease cured by singing, and an order of knights, and warring factions.
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>>13625680
Doesn't look like enough of a cake to win in a Macross show.

Remember that it's the older woman with the established career that wins in these series.
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>>13625680
we at least know who is going to lose and that's notRanka
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>being even flatter than the loli
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>>13626026
That's a boy my famlia
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>>13626026

>All her doujins will be swamped with vanilla with flimsy introduction of boob massage "plot"
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>>13625680
Cute.

>>13626026
Not cute.
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>>13625218
>>13625186
BlazBlue isn't hand drawn. They make 3D models and trace sprites over them, adding a bit of animation flare.
And of course Xrd is 3D.
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>>13623052
That anon isn't exactly wrong.

But that's because Kawamori doesn't mind making every series loose canon in the timeline vs the stricter canon that Bandai keeps trying to shoehorn more UC sidestories into then trying to tie in all the unrelated series in a similar manner via Turn A.

But it's not a big deal as others make it out to be.
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>>13626026
Thatsapenis.gif
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What if we crossed Macross with Aquarion with Nobunaga with AK48?

VFs that can gattai with other VFs and cause gattaigasms and can further power up with crystallized song magic for fancy elemental attacks.

Songstresses who are warlords of their respective planets fighting each other over who gets to be the supreme warlord songstress and also fighting against evil antifun humans who want to suppress the power of song. Oh, said evil humans try to disguise their actions by making the enemies appear like some aliens.
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http://macross.jp/delta/cast/

Is it just me or does the new songstress contest winner sounds almost exactly like Megumi Nakajima?
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>>13625201
>What's a proxy
>What's a VPN
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>>13625678
Truth. It's a pity that some just don't get noticed (case in point, Douglas Circumstance is currently hurting in the money department and there's only 4 days left).

>>13625856
>>13625973
Also, there probably won't be just one love triangle.
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I'm going to wait until we see more than context-void clips and then judge it, you negative nancys.

I swear, nowadays every franchise that tries to release something new gets shit on right out of the fucking gate, without even showing anything. IT's just the default reaction to shit on everything.

Like, c'mon. Wait until the first episode, at least.
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>>13620760
That is like choosing your favourite cancer.
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>>13626636
My favorite cancer is the pancreatic kind. What's yours?
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>draw a boy
>call it a girl
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>>13626726
What, you prefer
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
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>>13626318

she's got a suzaku level bulge, dude--that is to say, none at all.
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>>13626730
Yes
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>>13616298
The best part of Macross is you don't have to watch the previous series to enjoy the current one. But doing so enhances the story since you'll hear the music from the previous series in the newer ones. Like Sharon Apple music in Macross 7 or Fire Bomber music in Macross Frontier
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>>13626726
What if Green wins this time?
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>>13626730
yeah alto has great
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>>13626726
>>13626026
Has Kawamoris hate for green gone too far?
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>not posting the best new idol
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>>13627775
>>13626726
>is a Rei clone on top of everything else
Oh boy.

>>13627964
Given her stated skill, it's nice that she won't seem to be as ditzy as she looks.
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>>13628175
So are these girls pilots?
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>>13628175
>rei was a computer hacker with a love for music
I didn't know that.
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>>13628175

care to translate the moon?
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>>13628190
No, they support the pilots
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>>13628190
No, since Kawamori even said himself the idols won't be flying VFs. They have a Delta squadron protecting them. One of the pilots of that squadron seems to be the blue haired boy from the trailer and that red haired meltran he was arguing with.
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>>13627775

YFW she hates her outfit and color scheme, as well as the hassle of dyeing her hair.
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>>13627964
Best girl.
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>>13628175
>>13627964
She's also the bustiest, isn't she?
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>>13628240

she also goes nopan.
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>>13626061
U WOT M8
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>>13627738
SDF already did that familia
it's gone downhill after that
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Who's ready for Macross Delta to save anime?
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>>13629001
Delta will cause near g-reco level shitposting on /m/ no matter what
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>>13629001
>>13629011
What if Delta is actually good?
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>>13629044
that's irreverent to the amount of shitposting that will happen. It has CG, it has aidorus, the VF-31 is in the 25 line.
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>>13628998
That doesn't count since Miria wasn't competing with anyone.
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>>13629068
>VF-31 is in the 25 line
?
The YF-30 and VF-31 aren't VF-25 derivatives. While they look similar, their transformation structure is quite different. I'd actually say it's closer to the VF-4 than the VF-25, in terms of how it all comes together.
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>>13629073
>While they look similar, their transformation structure is quite different. I'd actually say it's closer to the VF-4 than the VF-25, in terms of how it all comes together.
Actually it's more similar to the YF-21/VF-22 with the way it transforms.
>>
Suddenly I'm incredibly grateful for Frontier.
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>>13629133
In terms of the arms, but not anything else.
The YF-30/VF-31's cockpit doesn't change orientation during transformation. The only other Valk like that is the VF-4.
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>>13629044

Let's not get ahead of ourselves now.
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>>13629160
Aw, come on.
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>>13613335
I love how a few retards say that Plus is a shitpile with "muh unlikable characters" as the only excuse to back it up.
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>>13615490
I don't need Macross to be about war. But I do need it to be about the planes. That's Macross as its strongest. When it's about the freedom and beauty of flight (and that's the reason I love Plus so much). Whenever Macross became about shitty idols it sucked.
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Obligatory "FUCK YOU, KAWAMORI" reply in a Delta thread.
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>>13613053
Not even modern anime is this retarded. This is just and old as fuck retard trying to be in trend.
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Loyd Blaim
20 years old and commander of the Valkyrie Unit Aerial Knights from the Kingdom of the Wind.
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Keith Aero Windermere.
19 years old and also a part of the Aerial Knights.
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>>13632605
>Aerial knight
>From the Kingdom of Wind
>Named Aero Wind

sasuga
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>>13632605
>Aero Windermere
>Kingdom of Wind
Do you think they like flying?
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>>13632626
He hates it. He's the anti-Alto.
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>>13632634
He always wanted to be a kabuki actor
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>>13632605
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windermere

Is Kingdom of Wind the new fancy name of england
>>
>>13628196
I'm not the anon you asked for, but here's a poor man's translation:

>Member of the Tactical Music Unit, a girl with a fluffy appearance. Also responsible as a mechanic.

I can't figure out whether that second sentence means "her responsibility is being a mechanic as well," or "she is also in charge of the mechanics."

So >>13628175 must've figured that a mechanic can't be ditzy.
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>>13632313
>not loving Sharon Apple
Fucking plebs
>>
>>13629044
You honestly think that matters to /m/?
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>>13626076
That would still classify as hand drawn.
I actually think I'd prefer traced cgi over just straight up unfiltered cgi like most shows give us
>>
>>13615473
I'd defend macross and say that you're using qn example from an unfinished cut of an episode, but the final version still had tons of shitty unfinished animation.

The designs were actually great though.
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>>13632649
Well they do have Space America with Macross 11. An all English speaking fleet home of Fire Bomber American and their manager Lynn Kaifun. Macross 11 and the planet Zola is located at the galactic rim. It just happens Macross Delta is set at the rim also according Shoji Kawamori's Forbes interview. Macross Delta also has an unnamed pilot in the preview that looks like a Zolan.
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>>13632605
So he is a gendebent of Celia from Walkure Romanze.
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>>13629044
http://myanimelist.net/people/10146/Kenji_Yasuda

http://myanimelist.net/people/8136/Toshizou_Nemoto
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>>13633925
>Macross Delta also has an unnamed pilot in the preview that looks like a Zolan.
No neck snake and no two tone hair. I don't know why everyone keeps thinking she's Zolan, Klan had the same fucking huge ears.
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>>13612922
The CG looks MUCH better than Frontier. It could be just the few good shots they used for the trailer, though.
>>
>>13615269
>no its not. sounds like leftover music from a JRPG loading screen.
That fits the weird medieval theme, though.
>>
>>13613396
Plus is literally my shittiest Macross, of the main entries, I rank them

SDF = 7 > Frontier >>> Zero > Plus
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>>13624766
I thought Zero was about a drunk soldier and the birdhuman.
>>
>>13615409
Music was arguably more central to the SDF story, since Minmay ended the war BY SINGING. It was the pop idol who was the main symbol of Macross City's superior culture, which is why so many zentradi defected. 7 and Frontier actually ties it back into the fighting more because singing is like a power up when the mechs are fighting, which isn't bad either, both kinds of story are fine.
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>>13614456
I thought Evol cast was handled fairly decently if you ignore Mikono butthurt. Anime usually is much worse at ensemble cast.
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>>13636703
Loli-idols for the win.
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>>13639135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MFx8SzHIrg
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>>13639135
Well she was 15. Not realy that young.

But it gets you vanned in the US, how did robotech solve this?
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>>13639221
>how did robotech solve this?
They made her older by a couple of years IIRC
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>>13626647
Testicular.

Always fun.
>>
>>13639280
Ah ofcourse. Typical.

Meanwhile in glorious depraved Europe 15 year old Russian models whore themselves on the catwalk.
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Some new art. Excuse the shit resolution but now we get a better look at the Siegfried's gunpod.
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>>13640376
Looks rather form-fitting. Like it'll sit flush against the ventral fuselage.

So uh, when do we get to see the damn weapon pod? Unless the gunpod IS the weapon pod transformed or something.
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>>13640675
I don't think the weapon pod is the gunpod since we see it deployed with the gunpod at the end of the trailer.
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>>13640678
Ah, you're right.
And you can see the gunpod on the bottom of the weapon pod near the start of the trailer.

But there's something that still bothers me. The YF-29-style twin cannons you see in the trailer look far too small to be the entire weapon pod. The weapon pod is massive, and those twin cannons only seem large enough to be half of the pod.

Why haven't they shown them clearly already?
>>
>Capcom

Wait what? Are they helping with something?
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>>13612922
You know what I've realized?
None of them seem to be Zentradi.
That's weird, right?
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>>13640710
Are you blind? There's a meltran girl in the trailer.
>>13640693
One of Capcom's designers is doing the character designs for this and also there's a cross promotion event for Delta in the latest Monster Hunter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGg6icLrVaU
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>>13640746
>tfw HG will never let that happen if X somehows makes it to the west

Motherfucking assholes.
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>>13640710
Red-haired pilot chick.
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>>13640793
I hope she's significant.
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>>13640803
She most likely will judging from the teaser PV. She's probably one of the pilots for the Walkure idols.
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>>13640803
I hope she wins the Macrossbowl.
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>>13640746
>Nyalkyrie

Aw, that's cute. I chuckled.
>>
>>13640376
I already like this more than the VF-25 and the YF-30. I hope they're not tricking us with that waist articulation.
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>>13640946
The YF-30 had 360 degree waist rotation, but the VF-31's nosecone looks like it should prevent the waist from moving as much.
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>>13640376
>>13640685
>>13640678
Gunpod in the right arm confirmed!
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>>13642392
Looks Armored Core as fuck too.
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>>13643491
Well Kawamori did work on them
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Wish it was just 3 idols, 3 homos and 3 pilots
The way its shaping up there are 5 love triangles and we havent had any indication that some will be given priority
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>>13643769
>The way its shaping up there are 5 love triangles and we havent had any indication that some will be given priority
Except there hasn't been a hint of that many love triangles. Kawamori himself even said he doesn't want to focus on love triangles as much compared to past series.
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>>13643787
Love Octagons it is!
>>
I liked Macross Frontier, it was pretty fun.
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>>13643809
I think you mean love dihedrons with this many characters
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>moefaced no nosed freaks of nature
>idolshit
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>>13623103
>Yes, as opposed to Gundam rehashing the same earth vs colony crap every year.

That hasn't been a thing since SEED.
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>>13643988
They do have noses.
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Another new character and our supposed protagonist. Hayate Immelmann, 17 years old. Mentions he wanders the galaxy and happens to get caught up in the middle of this conflict.
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>>13644031
dots=/=noses
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>>13644036
F U C B O I
U
C
B
O
I
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>>13644036
Philip?
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>>13644036
Let's hope he's not useless.
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