Why did this flop so hard in Japan?

Because Japan hates fun.

It wasn't even intended to be popular in Japan

Those Nips have shit taste!

Anon, it's long been known that Japan has incredibly shit taste

>>13579283
I don't know why the first cour flopped, as it was pretty much perfect, but the 2nd cour was downright terrible. There was such a decrease in quality across the board, I can't think of a reason it wouldn't flop.

>>13579283
Didn't the... DVD or Blu-Ray, I forget which - sales they did most recently do rather well in Japan though?

>>13579283

Actual reason: Probably had a bad timeslot and stiff competition.

Fanboy rage reason: Japan hates adult characters and robots that look and move as if they have actual mass.

>>13579392
It wasn't about Japanese people either, so there's that.

>Westaboo show flops in Japan
News at 11.

>>13579283
>>13579380
I heard that it may be a flop in Japan when it aired. But now it becomes a cult success there.

>>13579283
The sponsors didn't make toys of it, so there were literally none of the otaku-pandering, overpriced collectibles available that normally make these series money. It relied almost entirely on ratings and disc revenue, which is an aberration in Japan. That's why they say it was unsuccessful; just relying on those, it couldn't make back production costs.

>>13579283
Too western/not western enough.

>>13579515
It really makes me wonder how Big O made it into the SoC line at all, especially before something like Danguard or GaoGaiGar

>>13579491
>Westaboo show flops in Japan
Explain Tiger and Bunny and Kekkai Sensen

>>13579561
fujos

>>13579283
>Tomato

>>13579586
It's a ripe tomato.

>>13579561
Tiger And Bunny did flop. It doesn't get any new content.

>>13579597
>It doesn't get any new content.
It just got two movies and is getting a Hollywood adaptation.

>>13579606
>a hollywood adaptation
wow it's fucking nothing

>>13579614
That's probably the most accurate description of what it will be since it's gonna be directed by Ron Howard. I'd rather have something hilariously awful like that live action Fist of the North Star movie than something from one of the most bland director's imaginable.

>>13579614
>>13579639
Here's your reply

>>13579649
Ron Howard is boring.

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>>13579653
RON,
HOWARD

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>>13579715
BEWARE I DIRECT

>>13579639
Vader as Mister Heart shoot knocking out the stuntman Ken is all worth it.

>>13579491
>Westaboo show
How? Just because it doesn't use the genric post-eva artstyle that was popular at the time? That's bollocks.

>>13579283
bad timeslot + other shit just happened to overshadow it in popularity
it's merch sells decently enough nowadays

Because it was made for and funded by the US.

>>13579491
CoD is fairly popular there.

Explain that

>>13579548
Later reruns on other channels and the eventual bluray release proved to be much more successful. No idea of the SoC came out before or after the blurays though.

Plus it's been in SRW like 6 times so either it's cheap as shit to license or at least some people in Japan like it.

>>13579841

Not just cawadooty, but the one where the Japanese are the enemies gunned down got rave reviews. If I wasn't on my phone I'd post the Penny Arcade about that.

>>13579548
Danguard and GGG aren't owned by Sunrise (and thus owned by Bamco) but Big O is, so while at least GGG is probably more popular in Japan they wouldn't have to pay anyone any other company anything in order to make more Big O merch.

>>13579818
I thought that's just the 2nd season. The 1st is pretty much their effort.

>>13579606
See >>13579614

And those two movies were the finale. The franchise is dead.

>>13579283
Because it was a shitty anime.

>>13579855
It's probably because they looked passed that shit and focused on, you know, the actual game.

As weird as that sounds.

>>13579283
Back in those days Jazz based show used in flop in Japan due to their excessive shit taste.

Coincidentally both Cowboy Bebop and Big O had Steave Blum voicing main guy.

>>13579797

Also because it features only western characters in a western city with not a single Japanese thing in sight except that one random ep in the second season which was US funded anyway and wasn't exactly more than a bunch of stereotypes.

>>13580110

except Cowboy Bebop had low ratings primarily due to several episodes not being aired due to strong adult content

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Dorothy wasn't moe enough.

>>13579797
It literally took place in New York.

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>>13579855
Here

>>13580110

Jazz is a uniquely american creation, and Japan didn't get a jazz scene until relatively recently. You can't blame them for not having enthusiasm for something most of them never heard before.

>>13580797
>>13580110
Except for the part where Bebop didn't flop. It's annoying how this dumb statement keeps getting repeated.

this show had the GOAT villains

>Beck
>Garbriel
>Schwarzwald
>Rosewater

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>>13581041
Schwarzwald is the GOAT /m/ villain in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHChe6KY0DQ

>>13579855

Maybe the players don't give a fuck about abhorrent imperial japan mentality and can play a game against it?

There's nothing good in respecting your old country if it was as shit as Imperial Japan was, much like there's no reason for a German to respect Hitler's Germany.

>>13579597

Tiger and Bunny was the no-budget series from Sunrise that season, going to simply accompany that other generic high school anime with the silver and red power armor, can't even remember the name.

That anime didn't even get a line, while Tiger&Bunny got mad doujins production thanks to fujos and 2 theatrical releases along a pretty wide SHF line-up and 2 MG.
It also got VN on PSP.
Saying Tiger&Bunny was a flop when it recouped pretty well what it costed to Sunrise is being an ignoramus, it's like saying Getter Armageddon was a flop because it ended with the OVA despite selling 30k per VHS.

>>13579283
I would kill a man to get my hands on a 1/100 Big O megadeus plamo.

>>13579377
The Big O flopped in Japan because it too different from the other mecha shows.

>>13580100
found the SJW apologist kek

>>13579797
fuck off retard

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>>13580810

You shut your mouth nigga.

No toys for sweaty otaku to buy and very little waifu potential.

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>>13581747

A plamo exists, but it's rare nowadays and I don't know what scale it's supposed to be.

I own one, but I never got around to putting it together because it requires quite a bit of painting, something I didn't know when I got it, and I don't trust myself to not fuck it up.

>>13581705
Why isn't Schwarzwald on the /m/ Soccer Team?

>>13583866
We already have Getter-1, we don't need Getter-2

>>13579283

Because the Japanese don't understand the horrors of Caucasian Male Constipation.

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>>13584140

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>>13579283

Too Western for Nippon tastes, no insufferable faggot teenage MC to attract younger viewers, no moe/otaku/waifu pandering to attract male viewers, no fujoshi-bait shenanigans to attract female viewers, no merchandise until years after the show was finished, a mostly Jazz or Jazz-influenced OST in a country that HATES the genre...

Basically, Japan has shit taste and this show has every element in it's core of being something that turns off Japanese viewers. It was only until The Big O itself showed up in an SRW Game did anyone start to like it; Same with G-Gundam.

Beck was the greatest villain.

>>13580110
>>13580856
Fukuda's Cyber Formula had clearly jazz-inspired OST as well. OK, the TV series apparently did have poor ratings at first (enough to shorten the show from 50 to 37 eps and Takara to lose interest in it), but it proved popular enough to both win Animage's 1991 Anime Grand Prix and get OAVs almost to the end of the century, continuing with jazzy OST (well, except for Sin which has literally no trace of jazz, but Sin is overall the black sheep of this franchise). Several of Braves had jazz influences in their OSTs as well (though not as much as CF).

>>13579283
>Why did this flop so hard in Japan?
Because there was a severe lack of a angsty teenage male protagonist with melodramatic issues.

ITT: Pots calling kettles black

>>13584772
NIGGER

>>13579283
Because it wasn't designed to appeal to them.

>>13580810
Dorothy didn't look moe enough.

FTFY

Dorothy was full of moe.

>>13584929
She wasn't moe enough for Japan. They're not used to robot girls that actually act like robots

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>>13584929
Dorothy is cute, CUTE.

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>>13585099
Such an understatement.

I just want a Big O figure that doesn't take my wallet out back and do unspeakable things to it.

Like, I'd settle for a Revoltech even.

>>13585032
But Rei is the most popular Eva character!

>>13585228

The difference being that Rei's "robotic" nature is due to being emotionally stunted by being repeatedly traumatized. People want to hold her and comfort her.

R. Dorothy is an actual robot that generally lacks emotions because she's a machine. You can't cuddle a machine and tell her everything is going to be alright.

>>13585135
Make it yourself.

>>13585233
>You can't cuddle a machine and tell her everything is going to be alright
Bullshit you can't.

>>13579392
>robots that look and move as if they have actual mass

Why would anyone think this when the very first Japanese robot anime was Tetsujin fucking 28?

>>13585281
You say that as if lack of respect for classic works is a problem that only Westerners have. It's not as if generational gaps don't exist in Japan either.

>>13585233
R. Dorothy definitely had emotions. They just didn't quite match up with human ones.

>>13585281
Anon, you do realize the 60s Tetsujin series didn't exactly have amazing animation right? If you were talking about the 2004 series then yeah you'd be right about the mass thing.

>>13580829
What, Japan lives Casiopia, Dimension, and T Square.

>>13585370
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wRr1ME_gV1w

>>13584497
>in a country that HATES the genre
Japan has a rich history of Jazz. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_jazz

>>13585233
>You can't cuddle a machine and tell her everything is going to be alright.

Yes, you can. Just have to be careful she doesn't break your spine.

>>13580829
>Japan didn't get a jazz scene until relatively recently.
Like how soon? back in the 50s-60s? swing, jazz and big bands were huge in Japan back then

Brick Ballades Houston Street is one of the greatest anime OST tracks, period.