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Because there literally wasn't one on /a/ or here on /m/. I NEED discussion on this. Gimmie all your theories on how Logos is gonna wrap up.

Talk of dogfucking will be dealt with via laughter and further jokes.
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I haven't watched it, is it funnier than EVOL? Have they revealed that if you replaced LOGOS with its equivalent spanish alphabet, it spells COOKIE?
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ALL THESE TIME THESE TWELVE THOUSAND YEARS YOU KNOW BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
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>>13577515
EIGHT THOUSAND MORE AND BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
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It ends with them hijacking Logos and feeding Nesta to Vector-Ga, I guess?
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>>13577530
That would be an ideal ending yeah. Just feed Nesta and Subete to Vector-Ga, abandon it in Logos Space, and carry on with life.
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>>13577501
>is it funnier than EVOL?
I found it to be the best anime of the year and it isn't that funny, it was basically the first series with more philosophy and MOTW.
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>>13577501
It can be funny, but it's not its main strength. Incredibly the characters are its strongest point. If you can give the show a chance your will be surprise about how much you end up caring about them.
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Does anyone know where i can download or watch online the second ova of genesis Aquarion: Wings of Glory.I've tried everything but i can't find it
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>>13577966
KissAnime.to
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>>13577966

https://bakabt.me/torrent/159289/sousei-no-aquarion-genesis-of-aquarion-ova-bd-720p-3xr

Or is there another OVA I don't know about?
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>>13577501
it's not "funny", it's comfy
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>>13577980
>>13578013
finally. is there any differences between the OVAs and Movie or is the same thing
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>>13578144
it's entirely different
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I'm still hoping Logos connects directly to the series somehow. I don't want it to be just a show on tv no one cares about.
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>>13578174
>I don't want it to be just a show on tv no one cares about.
A tad too late for that.
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>>13578144
They are exactly the same thing but the movie includes an extra Sousei TV anime episode about the pilots singing the opening song to defeat the MOTW.
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>>13578510
Hymn to the triumph is my favorite episode of aquarion.
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All this time these twelve thousand years somehow Bark Bark Bark Bark Bark!
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I was mad. I'm still mad, I will be forever mad. Fuck Kawamori.
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>>13580120
It's okay because he got the best girl in the end.
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>>13580154
> asspull pairing
> best anything
Unlike you, some people actually care about good writing.
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>>13580163
It was pretty clear that that pairing was an afterthought.

>Shit, we didn't kill Zessica or Kagura, now their characters are left purposeless on the story.
>Just add them to the final battle giving a rousing speech to Amata and Mikono, then we can Imply that Zessica x Kagura is a thing.
>Man, you're a genius!
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>>13580406

Zessica could have found something else to do with her life.

Kagura was the problem. He was clearly intended to either die, or be absorbed into Amata but he was so much more popular than him they couldn't do it without angering the fans even worse, especially since they already tanked their most popular pairing with Jin.
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>>13580771
Yes. Kagura should have been absorbed into Amata. What the hell were they thinking?
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I started watching Aquarion Genesis recently... I'm after 2 episodes and it's boring as fuck.
I don't like any of the characters, and the only thing I like is main mecha.

Like holy shit, a fucking madman animal main hero, another generic tsundere with brother complex, and this blonde prince dude thinking he's something... fuck them, fuck them all... When will this start to become good?

Mobile Suit Gundam was way more interesting after 1st episode, same goes with Macross, Votoms, Evangelion and some other mecha series...
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>>13581410
>Aquarion
>Good

It will never be, anon. Aquarion is, at its best, mediocre. The only reason it made some kind of impact was its OST.
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>>13581410
>When will this start to become good?
when did someone say it is good in the first place?
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>>13581410
>When will this start to become good?
When you realize that Fudou is the main character.
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>>13581448
>>13581439
I heard it's mediocre yes.
With this gattai shit it reminds me of Getter Robo, but Getter Robo was fucking awesome. One of my favourite super robo series.

What I meant by good was for it to actually become enjoyable. If it's as boring as the first 2 episodes then watching this franchise will be long.
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>>13581439
It always was good, anon. In fact I dare say it is the best anime of our time.
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>>13581459
The best part is the shenanigans, actually.

But other than that, its average.

The robot design is 10/10 though.
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>>13580406
>>13580771
>>13581211
I wish they had just killed him. At least he'd go out with some dignity before being deformed into whatever the writers want to do with him. I, for one, wouldn't be mad if they did, I also liked him way more than Amata, but seeing him being turned into a mindless plot device (okay he was this already but not THIS much) is even more painful.

Because holy shit how much can you deform a character until they barely resemble their former selves? At least Jin died before they did the same to him. Kagura has to be a mindless buffoon until the end of the franchise because writers don't give a fuck about keeping him consistent.

You know, I'm actually glad I skipped the final episode and ignored the crossover special just so I can pretend none of that bullshit happened.
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Remember that time when they killed that shadow angel kid?

And then they made the Assault Aquarion?

Good times.
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>>13581459
Part of the enjoyment is the OST, though.
Actually, the OST is the main reason you should be watching this, not the actual show.
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Am I the only one disappointed that Fudo x Crea wasn't a thing?
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>>13581997
Fudo a shit anyway. He deserved a long painful death
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This thread need saving
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>>13581460
You, I like you.
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>>13581983
Assault Aquarion was cool as fuck. One of Kawamori's best designs.
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>>13581997
Crea deserves better than an homosexual cheating angel.
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When will you forgive me, /m/?
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>>13581989
>the OST is the main reason you should be watching this, not the actual show
This is me.

Tried watching it after I hooked up with the song when playing SRW Z. AKINO and bless4 is god-tier group for anisong.
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>Sheryl SLAP
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>>13588596
that was my favorite part of her character arc, I'm not gonna lie. Just. She finally worked up the guts to DO something for once.
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>>13579209
She never fucked the dog tho
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>>13581997
Zen a shit
Donuts gimmick is okay tho
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>>13584614
Are you me?

>Play SRW Z
>Wow Aquarion is the shit, great music
>Watch it
>Meh, not really horrible but...
>Still cool music though
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>>13589845
pleb
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new episode finally reveals what Shoko can do and finally lets her pilot Tsutomu's vector

Also, the biggest plot reveal of this episode is Akira was one out of a ton of other kids that Nesta took in "in case Subete failed", and that memory of Subete comforting Maia under the moonlight actually happened between Akira and Maia, with Sougon tampering everyone's memories to make Maia think Subete comforted her. There's some trauma there about Maia nearly getting killed too. The reason Akira wants to be savior so much is that he promised Maia that when they were kids but was forced to forgot, so for most of his life he's left with the feeling that he has to be a savior but has no idea why.

What the fuck is Akira supposed to be, with this in mind? It's legit looking like he really just somehow stumbled onto the plot at this point, but they were keeping him in Nesta as a back-up for Subete along with a ton of other kids
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WE JEEG NOW
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>>13590315
What did I miss?
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The teasing is strong.

This episode was really good with the big reveal of Akira's backstory.
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>a politician promotes atheist logic and people applaud him

And suspension of disbelief broke
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>>13590394
FOR THE LAST TWO THOUSAND YEARS AND TEN THOUSAND MORE SOMEHOW AKIRA HAS LOVED HER.

I'm not sorry, at least Akira isn't a fucking dog

BarkBarkBarkBarkBark
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>>13590274
>finally lets her pilot Tsutomu's vector
She did absolutely fucking nothing and Akira did everything by himself again.
Why couldn't Aquarion DEAVA be a product of the power of friendship? It had the perfect set up for it for fuck's sake
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>>13590274
Shoko is the only one in the group with a fucking element power and surprisingly it's got game breaking potential. I was hoping she'd become relevant after the whole no-verbalism-at-all reveal, but I didn't expect her to become this.

>>13590488
At least DEAVA looks fucking badass and is actually a fucking Aquarion unit instead of a sentai mech.
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Aw man Maia's gonna die damn it
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>>13590588
Nah, Akira now remembers that saving the world while keeping her from dying was why he wanted to be a savior in the first place. She gonna live.
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I wish there is fan art of Tsutomu and Shoko doing Love Love Tenkyoken.
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> Subete doesn't like Nesta
> Maia found Subete repulsive before the mindwipe
Are we sure Subete is the real reincarnation of Kiryu?
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>>13590596

Don't get my hopes up! If she dies I will cry!
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>>13590504
Verbalism is itself an element power, actually.
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>>13590853
I was talking about her being the only one with an active power instead of a passive power.
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>>13591158
The others do have active powers, they just don't utilize them that much out of battle and they're more generic. Kokone used hers last episode to call out to Akira and the rest.
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>>13591160
Sorry, I wasn't specific enough to make my point. I meant in clarifying to specify that she had a unique active power. But yeah, good point.
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>>13590596
They will both live or die together.
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>>13590738
Fuck you made me sad
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Funny how the Satelight budget project created the best OTP of the year
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Well this episode is delightfully fucked up.
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In true Aquarion fashion, this is both retarded, and awesome.
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>>13591603
The way 天 (heavens) was written resembles 犬 (dog).

Is it just a coincidence?
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Of all the moments in this episode, I don't know why this scene got me the most
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>>13583479
When you out meme yourself in Delta
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Man I can't believe this is turning into the best Aquarion show
granted that's not saying much but still
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>>13591710
it took 23 fucking episodes to turn around, and that's terrible, but the last two-to-three episodes might just make up for all of that.

I wish the openings weren't shit though. At least I can tolerate OP 1.
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>>13591719
the second half was good to decent desu fampai
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>>13591720
Don't get me wrong, It did start to turn around when Subete took over as the antagonist, but things just finally got around to going full swing. I've said multiple times that Logos was getting good to a friend of mine, and I meant it.
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>>13583479

Never at this rate. Every time I watch an episode of Logos I actually have to watch like three episodes of Evol to wash your bad taste out of my brain.
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>5-way gattai into Centaur-quarion
>based grandpa and his advice
>Pulling a spear out from the chest
Fuck yeah


Their reaction to the cockpit not changing like the previous Aquarions are still amusing though.
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>>13590739
Pretty sure he is given how such a crazy bitch as Nesta lets him handle things how he wants.

IMO It's just that one of Logos' themes is that reincarnation and inheritance from the past doesn't mean shit as far as relationships go. It's not a story of destined lovers just kids who happen to vaguely be related to some oldfags named Nesta and Kiryuu That or maybe Subete fucked up a little when he made Maia. Maia got the affection of Kiryu and power of Nesta while Nesta lost it yet holds on to the love for him.
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>>13592087
Oh Subete definitely fucked up a little. He was like what, six? And he did it in desperation. It's a miracle she didn't come out with deformities.
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When will your forgive me, /m/?
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>>13590588
> Maia will die
> Akira promises to reunite with her in her next reincarnation
> Maia reincarnates into Zessica
> Turns out Zessica was destined to be with Akira all along but he didn't reincarnate in EVOL for some bullshit
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>>13591623
There are no coincidences in Aquarion.
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>>13592087

So it's like Evol's message, only without completely ignoring it in any way shape or form.
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>>13593925
In a sense. For me it feels like a bit like a gender-flipped version of EVOL, where Subete is Mikono, Maia is Amata, and Akira is Zessica, a person (supposedly) completely out of the loop.
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>>13593952
Wouldn't Maia be more like Kagura?
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>>13593925
>in order to fight destiny you have to...go along with destiny.
Yeah I'm still confused.
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>>13594399
Destiny is destiny.
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>>13594468
Then they should have said "destiny is infallible and those who go against it will be dragged along by it".
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>>13594513
No I mean destiny is destiny.
Haven't you ever played Lightning Returns?
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>>13594554
I wasn't touching another XIII game after playing the first one.
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>>13594554
I honestly haven't touched 13-2 or Lightning Returns despite the fact that I would like to. I half-enjoyed 13, probably because I am a masochist. I'm not gonnna lie though, the crystinarium is honestly one of my favorite ways of leveling up.
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>>13594586
13-2 is surprisingly better than 13 in almost every way. Out of the three it's the closest to being a legit good game, even if there's still plenty of shitty parts about it.

Lightning Returns is one of the worst games I've ever played. It's not bad in the same ways 13 is bad, it's bad in all sorts of brand-new ways.
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>>13594661
I heard 13-2 had a ton of improvements and I really do want to play it, but part of the game is behind an additional paywall and really the only thing delaying my playing it is the lack of a definitive edition.
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>>13594661

That's funny, because I enjoyed LR way more than the first two. It's one of my favourite FF games.
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So the reason Savior-kun was so fucking autistic about being the savior was because he wanted to save Maia as a kid, but ol' Papa Sougon wouldn't have that shit, and so Akira wanted to be a savior without knowing why for fucking YEARS?

Wow, uh... hm. That is some shit, surely.
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>>13596023
He was full-on SAVIOR even as a kid, though. I mean, he maintained that desire through a complete mindwipe. Now we just need an explanation for why his pupils turn slitted whenever he Verbalizes.
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>>13596054
You'll find the explanation for that is that his mother was a cat.
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>>13596109
And his father?
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>>13596174
A piggy.
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>>13596229
Burn the witch!
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>>13593975
I doubt Maia will get permanently replaced by a pod clone, though.
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>>13591710
Probably only few, or even nobody will agree but I think of the 3 series:
>Sousei had the best mech design and music
>Evol had the best character design
>Logos had the best story and character development and interaction
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>>13596261
Well yeah, Maia is already the pod clone.
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>>13590274
>secret childhood friends with promises!

god fucking damn it
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>>13592087
>IMO It's just that one of Logos' themes is that reincarnation and inheritance from the past doesn't mean shit as far as relationships go. It's not a story of destined lovers just kids who happen to vaguely be related to some oldfags named

So it's fine if Logos does it but Evol is shit because waahhhhhhh zessica my waifu best gurl mikono a shit?
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>>13596299
Hey now, it's not like it just came out of nowhere. Akira's past had been a mystery all along and it actually makes sense and ties up most of the loose ends even if it does seem like just a bit of a copout.
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>>13596308
Except Amata and Mikono ended up together anyway so all the talk of fighting fate was moot.
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>>13596308

Logos is actually breaking the destined couple.

You can't talk all this good shit about "Fuck fate, fuck 12000 years, fuck shadow angels, fuck my deadbeat parents, fuck all this metaphysics bullshit"

and then turn around and go "Yea, we got it wrong, they're clearly destined. something something Aishiteru."

Now, I'm not especially a Zessica-fag, but after her death fakeout, I don't know who the fuck thought it was a good idea to lock down on Amata and Mikono: She's a bitch, but she's a bitch who Decided to die rather than see Amata hurt, and had to seal that bitter pill with the only kiss she'll ever get from him..

That shit's gold, and they let it drop.
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>>13596353
>you can't talk all this good shit about X and turn around and do the opposite
WATCH US
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>>13596396

Eat me Mikage.
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>>13596270
I totally agree anon.
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>>13596299
This is common in Kawamori shows, though. He also made Amata and Mikono to meet as kids in the EVOL manga, not to mention the other childhood encounter between Alto and Sheryl in Frontier movies. He has a boner for childhood meetings and Oedipus complexes.

>>13596308
Because unlike EVOL, Logos is staying true to its message instead of doing the exact opposite of what they said they'd do.

> You have to fight destiny!!
> By GOING ALONG WITH IT!!
> Focus on the present, the past doesn't matter!!
> EXCEPT IT DOES!!

It's hilarious characters like Kagura were right all along, and they were supposedly bad guys for being on destiny's side. This show kept tripping on itself every fucking episode.
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>>13596308
I don't give a shit about Zessica because she was never outstanding as a character, but I gotta agree with >>13596353 .

After showing that she actually cared more about Amata than Mikono herself, it's fucking stupid to try and make Mikono and Amata look like the perfect couple, it just looks like pure 100% undiluted hypocrisy. When has Mikono stood up for Amata's sake? Fucking never. She treats Kagura much better in comparison, constantly begs the other characters to forgive him, and she defended him from bullets, for crying out loud! She never does this shit for Amata! And then they have the nerve to say Zessica doesn't deserve him, probably because sacrificing yourself to save your loved one and constantly thinking on their well being just doesn't compare to constantly blaming him for misunderstandings and going around blushing for other men because they lick your knee and call you a smelly bitch.

The point is, you don't have to like Zessica to realize how unfair the whole thing was. Mikono and Amata, let alone as individual characters, were never good as a couple, and showing other characters trying harder than them makes them look even worse. And this is all putting aside the whole "destiny doesn't matter, until it does" BS.
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>>13596353
The only reason Mikono won was because Kawamori pushed it. The rest of the staff wanted Zessica to win.
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>>13597426

Frankly don't care. The production as a whole stands for the decisions made.

I know where the blame rests, only makes it worse since that means he had warning: the production staff is typically right, even when they make a mess of things (I'm a Symphogear fan, we had a very similar issue between S2 and S3).
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>>13593952

I think it's more like Evol if Kagura was Apollo and Amata was somebody else. With the whole having an unhealthy obesssion because they're supposed to be the destined pairing being similar to Subete.

The difference is because they wanted Amata to get her, but also to complete the Apollo and Silvia reincarnation thing, all of sudden Amata was Apollo too it's totally fine for them to go together and destiny is still happy. Which is them pulling out a BS plot twist so they can have their cake and eat it too.
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I'll take 100 Mikonos over a single Zessica, timid is better than obnoxious
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>>13597849
IMO the whole thing was doomed the moment Apollo made the 12,000 years promise at the end of Sousei.

If you know your reincarnation might as well say "fuck your promise, I'm going with whoever I want" and you know it, why make said promise in the first place?

And if you actually want Apollo and Silvia's reincarnations to be together, why make the message of destiny being a bad thing? Why is destiny good when Amata decides is good but when other characters do the same is a bad thing? Is like they can't decide whether destiny is good or bad, turning the show's theme into a clusterfuck of indecisiveness.
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>>13597861
I'll take a single good show over 100 Aquarion sequels.
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Little Maia is too cute and adorable
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Is this week's episode the last one or are we getting an episode next week as well?
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>>13599805
we don't really have a way of knowing if 24 is the last episode or not sadly.
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>>13599805
27 episodes
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>>13599826
Oh right, that was announced before the series started. The "first" episode was the crossover OVA, though, right? So essentially 26 episodes.
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What could possibly go wrong next episode?
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>>13597906
Cool mouth, does it talk with dialogue?
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>>13597861
What would you even do with 100 of her?
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>>13597861

Can't do anything with 100 Mikonos.

A hundred Zessicas however...
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>>13602835
How do you intend to feed, clothe, and house 100 of her?
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>>13602936

Make them all get part-time jobs. Have them form their own Zessica Government to vote on which Zessicas should lead.

Customize them into different Zessicas.
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>>13602835
>>13602818
Have them dox people that attack you online and samefag everything into oblivion including getting a bunch of shitty sites red Web of Trust ratings. You guys think too small.
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>>13603052
Nah, have them give IBO bad ratings until the scum gets purged such as pic related.
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>>13597861
>timid is better than obnoxious
But Mikono was obnoxious, specially in the way she treated Amata.
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>>13597897
Shinji would make a good mecha pilot
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>>13591603
I wonder, if Logos ever get to SRW, how they will use the units gameplay-wise.

Will we still only able to use 1 form (Kou for the starter, and then San for the upgrade) and the rest of the forms will be attack only? Since well, most of them only has 1 actual attack/finisher anyway.
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>>13597861
Mikono was obnoxious and on top of that, boring. At least Zessica had a backbone. I'll take her over Mikono any day.
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>>13577491
The bad guys try to steal the kanji 笑顔, final scene is the protagonist walking into base...

"it looks like I really could protect your smile"

jumping high five, freeze frame, Allstar starts playing
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>>13603160
You need to try to stop pushing this. Here's your (you).
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>>13604115
>Mikono was obnoxious
No she wasn't.
> At least Zessica had a backbone
So did Hitler and Mussolini, but please do continue.
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Zessica was a stupid obnoxious slut and the only people who like her are tumblrfags and the same retarded yanks who like Asuka in Evangelion because muh strong tough indepedent woman hurrr
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>>13604115
Both were horrible characters, none was better than the other. Stop trying to delude yourself into thinking otherwise.
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>>13604219
> saying that one character was better than the other automatically means the other character is amazing
You can stop feeling threatened by other people's opinions, anon.
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>>13604212
Keep the butthurt coming, it tastes amazing.
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>>13604337
Over a thousand people still voted for her, that is saying something.
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>>13604328
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that both are horrible characters, for entirely different reasons, and none is better than the other in any sort of capacity. If you think otherwise you're just a deluded waifu-fag.
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>>13603912
The others made it so I assume Logos will make it eventually.
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>>13604369
> anyone that prefers one character over another is a waifufag
See >>13604328
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>>13604341
That just means more than 3 people watched EVOL.
Sadly, the same can't be said for Logos.
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>>13604337
>even nameless background characters are above mikono
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>>13605052

I love the fact that even the heroine of the previous show, who barely appeared in the entire thing and probably shouldn't technically count got nearly as many votes as her. Even her own pet got about 3/4s of the votes she did. She was the most unloved female character in her own show.
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>>13605070

she got lower than Mom "Im gonna ditch you in a graveyard to go to gangbang planet"
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>>13577491
>people still watch or care about aquarion
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>>13605281

Welcome to the club.
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>>13605281

Genesis was okay

Reika best girl
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>>13605287
I had fun with Genesis as flawed as it was. The first half of Evol was fun before it went full retard.

Thoroughly enjoying Logos despite the character designs, and lackluster soundtrack.
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>>13606186
Hello doppelganger

I'm actually sharing Aquarion around with my friends, As long as I prime them (SNA is mediocre but fun, music and character shenanagans. EVOL is flat and goes downhill fast, LOGOS is completely different bodywork and paint with the same engine.) They all think it's fun as hell.

It's always pitching the series itself that gets awkward... If I had a nickle for every spit take.
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New episode soon, and then the wait for subs.
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>>13606186
>and lackluster soundtrack.

I amazed the project even went ahead with Akino

and by amazed I mean furious
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>>13607243
I'm pretty mad myself that Akino isn't doing the openings too.
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>>13607243

worst part is that the actual in show soundtrack is probably the best non-Akino tracks for the series.
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>>13607407
I'm not sure which one I want more. For Akino to sing Yamaidare Darling or Mayn to sing Sousei no Aquarion.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/12/10/shoji-kawamori-the-creator-hollywood-copies-but-never-credits/
>“Aquarion originated as a show about rescue based mecha, like Thunderbirds. However, those rescue type stories work because the machines from series like Thunderbirds aren’t omnipotent. If you have mecha that are too powerful, the rescue work would be too easy and monotonous. Like if someone got stuck in the depths of a cave, then a mecha’s long arms could sweep in and grab them and pull everyone to safety.”

Huh, never knew this. Interesting.
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>>13607508
pic related
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>>13607535
> If you have mecha that are too powerful, the rescue work would be too easy and monotonous
BUT WHAT ABOUT MACHINE ROBO RESCUE
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>That feel when you enjoyed EVOL and found it better than the original Aquarion.

It feels good man.
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>>13607543

You might have a problem. Id consult a physician
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>>13607508

dude.

Duet.
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>>13607535
Why do you read anime bloggers?
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>>13607423
Yeah, Logos has a fantastic OST. One of the best this season.
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>>13607570
Speaking of it, has the full version of Sousei no Aquarion All Star Gattai (the one used as ED for the Sousei Evol crossover) available yet?

I always like when the cast covers the show's OP/ED theme song.
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>>13590274
Don't forget his dad was Maia's caretaker until he found out about Sougon using her to destroy civilization.

>>13604337
>Zen and Mykage third and second to last, just below Pollon
Every time
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>>13609503
> the old man from the theater in episode 1 above Izumo, Pollon, Apollon, Zen and Mykage
> nameless background operator above the MC
> nameless background female characters above the main heroine, the previous' show main heroine, and the MC's mom
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>>13605070
She was the most unloved female character since the beginning.
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Am I the only one that hasn't watched the final episode out of rage?
Hell I don't even want to watch the crossover special because I know it'll only make me rage further
How could you guys watch it without punching the screen?
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>>13610363
By virtue of not being emotionally invested on a fucking cartoon?
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>>13610363
I loved the last ep, it was amazing.
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>>13610363
I really disliked the episodes leading up to the finale a lot, but I quite enjoyed the finale itself.
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>>13605070
Mikono is an excessively botched character.
It's amazing that you could manage to screw up the demure girl/action girl set up, but they did it.
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>>13610363
The crossover episode was pretty good.
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>>13609955

am it's like looking at an Anti-Kira and Lacus
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>>13611022
Nah Mikono was never meant to be the action girl, all the promotional material showed her being a damsel in distress.
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>>13610363
>How could you guys watch it without punching the screen?
I don't have autism.
The final ep is fine and the OVA is about nothing.
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>>13611022
You'd think the home audience would like a passive girl, but when even they hate her, you know you screwed up.
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>>13613566

because she's not passive. She's an active detriment. They like the girls passive but supportive. "Ganbarae MC kun" not "we both suck let's never try to amount to anything"
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>>13613799

Also "No, you mustn't shoot the villain who's tried to kill some of us and I don't know why - oh, MC-kun? You're still here. Yea, I love you but I'm never actually going to pay any kind of positive attention to you".
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What does it take to get /m/ to talk about Logos?
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>>13614848
If they barely talk about something like Yatterman Night, they sure won't do any better for Logos. Middle of the road shows like those generally aren't controversial enough to get much discussion.

As a serious answer to your question, maybe an ending that's not very Kawamori.
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>>13614848
Have the show not be a borefest
>>13614896
>Yatterman Night
Show dropped the ball hard after the first episode and Tatsunoko works tend to not be popular.
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>>13615035
This. Anime fandom can tolerate a show being shit but seem to really can't handle a boring show.
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>>13613964
>but seem to really can't

Tried to? HE DID! They literally went to their funerals and everything.
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>>13614896
>>13615035
>>13615053
Yatterman Nights was good though.

It probably would've been a lot stronger if it went full Yatterman Sins and juxtaposed the comedic main characters with the incredibly bleak setting rather than have a comedy set in North Korea.
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>>13614848
Well, we do talk about it. Some of the previous threads have some discussion about it.

The threads just go to hell when someone brings up Evol.
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>>13616191
>Yatterman Nights was good though.

so was Gatchaman Crowds.

Personally Im waiting for the completely unexpected and off the wall Hurricane Polymer reboot or a new Tekkaman
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>>13613099
No, I'm saying she's the demure girl. Zessica is the action girl.

I mean, in all honesty, if you've seen enough animu, you can already tell that Zessica wasn't going to "win" shit just by their character designs alone. The only time I can think of a character like her coming close is in Tenchi Muyo, and even that's debatable.

The issue with Mikoto is that she's ultimately just the prize at the end for Dogboy to win at the end. So instead of actually bothering to build up their relationship at all, every time they spend together has to be in the same awkward status it was when they first met. We know how Amata feels, and that's not going to change, SO we have to make sure that Mikoto has to skirt around their relationship every time. She's too shy and doesn't want the attention and there's no way that they could be together ,BUT at the same time, she's going to be angry if he spends time with anyone that isn't her and hates when he doesn't pay her any mind!

We've got to be at odds with Reverse of Dogboy too, so even though the guy has routinely beaten up her friends, and tries to rape her, we have to make sure that there's some odd vibe between the two so it puts a block between her and Amata.

The whole thing is just a lesson in frustration, and that's just on her end alone.
I mean, I'm a big sap, and I usually love watching that cheesy lovey-dovey shit, but by the end of the series, with all the hearts and what not, I just found myself wishing that I could even give one fuck of a shit.

I don't know man. The first Aquarion wasn't GREAT, and I was more interested in the machine than any of the characters, but EVOL seemed to embrace to sort of horseshit that made the first series interesting.
After Jun died, it's like someone's just sucked all of the fun out of the series. That's probably why the episode right after that is them stepping into fucking graves.
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>>13577535
But that isn't edgy enough. That would be less climactic than Subete and his dad getting crushed by rocks and all that end of the first cour. So ring about the logos world and the real world becoming one, or the word culture defending itself and destroying vector ga, or even some more chosen one stuff. (But who is the real Solar Wing?)
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So what's up with Logos on the mecha end of things?
Nobody ever talks about the Aquarion forms, are they all boring or something?
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>>13616221
>you can already tell that Zessica wasn't going to "win" shit just by their character designs alone.

I don't know if I expected her to win. But I think I at least expected her to get treated better than that
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>>13616224
They're not done by Kawamori, but they aren't bad.

The gattai possibilities are certainly very Aquarion.
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>>13616221

see it worked in Genesis because Apollo and Sylvia didn't like each other out the gate. There was no reason for them to hook up. What was really stopping Amata and Mikono?

Then as the series went on Apollo and Sylvia learned more about each other, began to understand each other, there was even an episode where they literally had to walk in the other character shows.

So they grew to become friends. Confide in each other and grew romantically.

The fact they where reincarnations seemed secondary. It was just there to set the stage and add some extra shmultz

not complicated, sure. hardly original, granted. but effective
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>>13604337
Tadpoltergeist best girl
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New episode out! Holy fuck it was glorious!
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>>13616955
The devil is in the details, so please spill them to get the ball rolling again.
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>The series title refers to the final boss, not the protagonist mecha

What a twist!
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/m/, this might end up being in my top 10 favorite anime of all time, maybe top 5, what do I do?

HALP
A
L
P
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>yfw this new ep was done by Kawamori
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>Romeo and Juliet: Skyrim
Topkek
This fucking show
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The titular mech, Aquarion Logos.
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The first half was weird and strangely enlightening.
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>>13577491
So was he Kiryu all along and Nesta is fucking with Subete because she thinks the letter was real and Kiryu betrayed her, or are Subete and Akira split personality like the EVOL puppies or did they just have Akira play the role of Kiryu in the play for whatever reason?
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>>13617237
Or the guards lied to her about what the letter was about.
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>The Alpha and the Omega
That line is the perfect line to describe Logos and Vector-Ga.
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>Sousei Gattai, [Insert verb]!
>AQUARIOOOOOOOOOON

I guess they are probably to use the classic "GO" in the end for the final gattai?
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>>13616224
I found unfair that in Logos the guys get a triple combination with the Aquarion Phoenix but the girls didn't get one, closest thing is the Aquarion Angel but its 2 girls 1 savior.
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>>13617237
I'm guessing Kiryu got split(Much like how he got literally cut into two when he got his head chopped off) between his verbalism aspect(Akira) and his writing aspect(Subete, especially because Subete has the books, books are written).

>>13617292
>the girls didn't get one
The girls didn't bond over a common goal though.

The guys bonded over their love for swimsuits.
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>>13617311
maia and kokone bonded over their mutual desire for the savior D
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>>13617046
no need for help, I actually enjoy the show quite a lot I find the concept of Writing and Words having power to be quite good, also the story has been something a bit new compared to what we usually get.

For me this show its the fine example of how can you pick a simple idea and then capitalize on it in a good way.
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>>13617158
Where are these images found?
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>>13616231
Well that's the problem, nobody with half a brain expected her to "win", just that the series goes out of it's way to make her suffer for no reward. Add the Mikoto shit in, and you get a frustrating series of events.

I don't even think anyone brought up Zessica when she got fucking possessed just "hey, leave mikoto alone!"
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Heh
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>However, having rejected writing as a member of the Truth Tribe...Nesta could not read

Fuck, I burst out laughing there. Goddamn this fucking show
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Do I need to watch EVOL before Logos to understand everything or can I go into logos blind?
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>>13617470
Official site.
>http://aqlogos.com/mechanic-aquarion/
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>>13617833
Nope, feel free to take the plunge.
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>>13617522

She didn't even get so much as an "HEY YOU'RE ALIVE"

Instead she got leftover shipped. The worst kind of ship
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>>13617839
Aquarion Deava is so MAJESTIC in that pic. I love it.
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>>13617158
>Wheelchair Aquarion

>>13617839
>Centaur Aquarion

I hope the all vector combination is absolutely insane
inb4 they resolve the Nesta plot by having someone read Kiryu's letter to her
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>>13618647
>Wheelchair

Looks more like Chariot
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>>13617046
Watch more anime, or just be happy you enjoyed it, it was pretty nice. BTW does Nesta and Kiryu remind anyone of the relationship between Kiss-Shot and her samurai knight from the monogatari series?
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It hurts to live.
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>it took them 11 minutes to get to the OP
jesus fuck
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>>13618904
One of them isn't alive
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>>13618647
man, I know that plot point sounds entirely stupid on paper, but somehow they made it work for me
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>>13619088
>one
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>>13619101
Other than Tsutomu, the other five are still alive.
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>>13617839
That 360 degree model viewer is pretty cool, though it's a little wonky. I want more mecha anime webpages to do that.
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>>13609935
The fact that the previous show's heroine was ON THE LIST AT ALL is hilarious.

>>13610363
By the time of the final ep, everything that is fucked up is already fucked up. The only thing stupid that it adds over everything else is this particular nugget.
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>>13619221
I guess that's the advantage of CG anime. I'd like a Fafner 3D viewer to play with.
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>>13619221
more mecha would need to be 3D first
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So basically, the moral of the story is that Celiane was a cold hearted slut for falling in love with a married mad but Apollonius cheating on Touma was fine, nothing wrong here, he doesn't even need to apologize, and Touma was a drama queen for getting mad at him. Okay.
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>>13619266
The cheater is never responsible, it's all the woman's fault, because she seduced him. Or something like that.
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fucking Nesta man

>>13617237
Given this episode i've got a new mad weed induced theory that Subete is indeed Kiryu reincarnabobulated or whatever and that Akira Kaibuki is Kiryu's last will that he wrote down on that paper:

To save Nesta.
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>>13619525
Specially when combined with this descripton of Vector Go but holy gay fucking walrus' am I grasping at straws.
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Anyone worried about Macross? I've never heard of an unpopular macross, but I could see Delta get snubbed like Logos. (lower budget, less viewers)
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>>13619539
I don't think there's anything indicating that Delta is getting snubbed. Logos' situation should have been obvious as soon as the staff list popped up.
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>>13619553
>Logos' situation should have been obvious as soon as the staff list popped up.
it wasn't obvious
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>>13619539
Look at these character designs, what could possibly go wrong.
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>>13619579
They said that the girls won't be piloting the white Valkyries, if that's true, who will?
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>>13617283
Why are they talking about Jesus?
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>>13617739
Everything that has happened since episode 1 is, ironically, due to a verbal rather than written lie.
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>>13619596
I'm going to hazard a guess that one is the red-haired Meltran in the PVs.
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>>13619596
Nameless faceless grunt soldiers who only show up during the VERY brief combat scenes they are legally required to have every third episode.
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>>13618124
That ship could have worked if they actually built up on it.
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>yfw Akira will save Christmas
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>>13619764
This can only end in triple gattai. Maybe quadruple if they pull Nesta in with them.
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>>13580406
>>13580771
Kagura was originally meant to be a woman and Zessica was originally meant to be stuck as a evil guy instead of MIXY and never get her tits back. The pair of spares possibility was in their mind earlier, but because they dropped that shit, they rushed it.
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>>13619764
I wish Akira can save the other Akira.
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>>13613099
Mikono Prototype was a gun otaku, anon.
Zessica Prototype was going to turn into a bad guy (permanent genderswap) in Altair.
Kagura Prototype was a barbaric woman.
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So I never watched Aquarion, what is good about it?
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>>13619850
The music, the robot designs, and the batshit ridiculous lessons of the week.
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>>13617739
The part about her being unable to read made a lot of sense, and it was heart-wrenching.

And then the cunts lied to her.
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>>13619827
> Gun otaku main girl
> They didn't go with that
Goddammit Kawamori/Okada
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>>13619539
>what is 2
and
>statelight
>low balling their money printer
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>>13619827
Damn it Kawamori the one time you needed to get dank you didn't
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>>13619850
>>13619862
To elaborate, those are the good things about the first Aquarion.

EVOL has great character designs but is generally the weakest in everything else. It pisses all over the original show too.

Logos has a kind of funky artstyle, but makes up for it with a very lovable cast and so far it has the most solid, coherent plot of any Aquarion. If it doesn't completely shit the bed in the finale it'll arguably be the best show of the three.
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>>13619634
Right time, right place and all.
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>>13619862
In Sousei, I would say the gimmick fights are the best early on. The infinity punch keeps getting copied for a reason.
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>>13619882
raito taimu
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Fuck, I just realized the parallel with the text message of the guy telling his girlfriend/wife he loved her right before dying that Nesta looked at and assumed was something bad because she couldn't read it.
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>>13619879
>If it doesn't completely shit the bed in the finale it'll arguably be the best show of the three.
Nah, it has the weakest music, designs and plot of the franchise, people are largely overselling to spite EVOL but its lacking te synergy of the previous installments.
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>>13619688
There was never a build up, it was a last-minute thing. For it to work you'd have to forget everything that happened until episode 25.... which is pretty much the entire show. It just makes me mad they actually tried to make it look legit.
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>>13619879
They were kind of misleading up to this point, though. The impression they gave previously was that Nesta was always with the Truth Tribe and that Kiryu defected to the Truth Tribe, not that it was a Romeo and Juliet situation and Nesta actually betrayed her own people as well.
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>>13619793
There were a lot of changes made before that, though. Kagura wasn't mean to be Amata's other half in the beginning, for example. The same way Zessica was mysteriously devoid of any character background even though other secondary characters had at least a mention of their past and the source of their powers, and that her "armor" looks suspiciously like Celiane's. All of that without bringing up that Zessica had a chance to be the main girl in the series's early drafts instead of Mikono, so....

In the end, both of those ideas were rejected and the series is so made-on-the-go it might be just a coincidence. I doubt they planned to pair the spares when there was a legit wish to make Zessica win, and that there was no signs of any build up towards pairing her up with Kagura.
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>>13619827
Kagura was meant to turn into a girl.
Kagura Demuri is one letter away from being Kagura Demure.
Female Kagura was supposed to be a shy girl, since genderbend supposedly flips your personality.

>Mikono Prototype was a gun otaku, anon.
Yes, but that idea was scrapped and they stayed with useless damsel in distress.
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>>13619903
>she couldn't read it
Now that you brought it up, I certainly didn't think of the fact the Nesta can't read when that scene happened.

>tfw we're supposed to link the dots together and realise that Nesta can't read because Truth Tribe
>Her interpreting the message negatively is due to her getting lied to by the guards
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>>13619967
They were unclear about it, but they gave us a really solid explanation of the whole situation with a very nice twist to explain how Nesta became such a bitch.
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>>13619937
>people are largely overselling to spite EVOL
Further proof in this thread where more people are talking about EVOL than the episode itself.
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>>13619994
Most of the EVOL talk has been about how much they messed it up, though.
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>>13619937
I'll agree Logos has weak music, but I dislike Evol's designs more for being a cheap copycat of the original. I wasn't sold on Logos's designs at first, but once they started getting into the creative ones like Phoenix they really grew on me. Plot-wise Logos is much simpler, but it does that simple story much more effectively in my opinion than Evol did its relatively convoluted one.
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>>13619994
True-ish, but I don't think people are doing it to troll or anything like that. Logos looks better because it's charming and doesn't take itself too seriously, while EVOL represents something that upset a lot of people.
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>>13619783
At this point I think it's pretty obvious, that's the outcome. Aquarion logos itself is a product of love between Nesta and Kiryu. Vector Ga is going to be the final boss of the show, since it represents destruction of concepts manifested.
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>>13617158
They're not very good at this web design thing. Took me two seconds to notice the 1 by logos' name and figure out 02 image was lurking around.

Oh yeah same principle with the early 3d image.
http://aqlogos.com/wp-content/themes/aqlogos/common/images/360view/logos2/1.png (embed)
just change the end number like so
http://aqlogos.com/wp-content/themes/aqlogos/common/images/360view/logos2/24.png (embed)

Numbers range from 1-32
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>>13620728
So if it takes this form it's just Resshou with a new sword, and Resshou is just Syo with a backpack, so that means if Akira steals back 02 then Subete can still be piloting a functional Aquarion.
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>>13620779
He reminds me of the 2nd version of Ratrap from Beast Wars
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>>13620779
Kinda reminds me of XN Geist. I like the horse-and-chariot allusion formed with Daeva and Logos, if they use it for a high-speed battle I'll be sold.

If not, well, it can still transform into >>13620740.
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>>13617833
So far I don't even know if Logos is set in the same universe as Genesis and Evol. It's been entirely self contained.
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>>13620794
That's Ratrap from Beast Machines not Wars anon/
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>>13619827
>Mikono Prototype was a gun otaku, anon.

sauce?
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>>13620740

I wonder how they're going to use the hands in it's feet for the gattai.
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>>13620779
Vector 2's disks sure got big.
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>>13620740
So the drone vector Beta was supposed to be a sword axe all along? Aquarion Ressho is the alt form of Logos without the sword axe.
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How exactly are they going to wrap this up in more than one episode? Is the next episode going to be just the first half of the fight?
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>>13622672
It's 26 episodes, don't worry.
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>>13622326
It wouldn't be Aquarion without arbitrary size changing.

>>13622672
Final duel with Subete in 25, all the pilots together against Nesta in 26.
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>>13622003
Military otaku.
It was said on the interviews.
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>>13619525
Kiryu had gray black gradient hair, so I just assumed (read: mass guessing) he was reincarnated as both subete and akira.

>>13617739
I did the same.
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>>13620012
>dislike Evol's designs more for being a cheap copycat of the original
Not trying to defend Evol, but isn't Evol (the unit) mankind's attempt to recreate the original/legendary Aquarion which is made by Shadow Angel?

But I agree Solar is far better, and cuter, than Evol.
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>>13619539
It doesn't look like Delta has less budget.
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>>13617739
I have no idea why illiteracy jokes are so funny.
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>>13625731
Because they are evil, like making fun of a disabled person. The best part is that you can get way with it.
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>>13625566
Yes.

Not that they should have had to make a knockoff when Fudo is right fucking there and he's actually Apollonius all along so he made Aquarion and fucking Evol fucking fuck.
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>>13625738
Nah, I just think they are hilarious.
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>>13625888
Fudo is a dick like that though.
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>>13619539
macross fanbase is more similar to the Symphogear fans and logos is a low budget spin off serie after evol ending that killed the majority of the fanbase, and a spin off are usually are less popular than the main serie for example nanoha vivid, yuki chan and Fate/kaleid
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>>13619571
>it wasn't obvious
Lets see...you have the director of Nobunaga The Fool, a music composer who has only done two series before, a newbie character designer, Kawamori being hands off entirely only contributing to the design of the Aquarion and the biggest stinger AKINO not returning to do the theme music which is the ONLY reason this franchise ever got noticed in the first place. Yeah...I'm gonna say they did not give a shit about this and this was a last minute thing they shittied out because they saw it was the 10th anniversary of the franchise.
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>>13619539
>I've never heard of an unpopular macross
II and Zero. Also Macross just recently went back into the spotlight 7 years ago with Frontier, it was never a high profile or consistently relevant franchise like Gundam so to be worried is kinda pointless since the franchise isn't that big to begin with it just has an immense loyal following and a lot of new fans came out the woodwork with Frontier and I doubt Delta will have the same effect since it's just following the current group idol trend that's hot in the market now and as well saw with AKB0048 its not a guarantee for success.
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>>13619539
I'm more worried about the staff list and the fact that the CG and designs look worse than Frontier.
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>>13626799

Which is amusing because AKINO aside, it's the best Aquarion.

It's the essential and lean Aquarion, cutting away all the tripe for the things that make Aquarion great, Character shenanigans, Wordplay,Gimmick Mecha/Monsters, Pop-Philosophy and Love.

If I suggest any Aquarion to a friend, it's going to be LOGOS. If he asks me about the other ones, I'm going to nod to SNA and say "You're better off just listening to AKINO though."

Besides, I can't hate the show that gave me this picture.
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>>13626915
The way I see it, it's like the old saying; "When the cat's away, the mice will play". A nice thing when that happens.
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>>13625888

He made Solar out of his wings which gave it the majority of his angel power. He can't really do that again.
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>>13626915
>If I suggest any Aquarion to a friend
Why would you do that.
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>>13627288

Because it became one of his favorites.

It's almost like I can codeswitch well enough to give recommendations my friends will actually like.

Actually delaying watching Logos to see the finale with him.
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>>13626799
Kawamori only did the original concept, actually.
The Aquarion design was someone else. I thought it was pretty obvious from how organic the Vectors are.
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>>13627950

Hadn't considered it before, they're really off type for his work.
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>>13626828
As long as the Meltran is Klan-tier and doesn't get killed off I'll be happy.
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>>13627288
Because Aquarion is awesome, obviously.
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