So does /m/ like Bionicles?

>>13564900
I have the green, blue and brown from that pic, and some of the games and movies were cool

>>13564907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v78I_VfIHC0

Movies were good as a kid though if you actually read the comics you find out how much the movies shat on the franchise

>>13564900
They're good.

>>13564918
>Movies were good as a kid though if you actually read the comics you find out how much the movies shat on the franchise
This. The only good movie was The Legend Reborn since it made the 3D models exactly like the toys, like it should be.

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The toys were okay, but really Bionicle started out with one of the most unique sci-fi concepts ever devised, and was utterly ruined as the years went by because Lego got greedy and conservative. The amount of worldbuilding and design that went into the first 3 years was absolutely incredible and easily stands toe-to-toe with the worldbuilding of the Universal Century in Gundam.

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Don't really follow the lore but you can make some pretty /m/ stuff with bionicle parts

Hell yeah I do.

Takanuva TWILIGHT > Kopaka Nuva > your favorite Toa.

Toa Metru arc was my favorite. Cyberpunk bio-city a bes.

Mata/Nuva were a better team though.

Hordika were meh. Piraka were good villains, but Voya Nui and Mahri Nui really got on my nerves for some reason. Good story in a lackluster setting, I felt.

>tfw no full Toa Hagah team.
At least I got Iruini and Norik.

Lhikan's design was also great, would've been cool to see more of him and Metru Nui's history.

>Roodaka will NEVER call you mean names
Why even live bros?

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>>13564954
another

>>13564918
>>13564934
Well yeah, I'm actually scared to look back at the movies, they seem like one of those things where not even nostalgia is enought to make them seem good as an adult

>>13564980


The only movies that hold up are surprisingly the CGI TV commercials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNJfvBL4mw

ignoring the music this shit was impressive for being a toy commercial.

>>13564980
LoMN actually holds up bretty well.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLAKtT2HKk

>That ending

As a kid Mask of Light was my favorite movie. I'm scared to go back and watch it again.

Have they gotten more casualized recently, or is it just me? I feel like they seem less difficult. I want to pick one up to nostalgia over.

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>>13565285
just you

If anything they're the most complex "canister-sized" sets created, given that even some of the small 10$ sets have like 120 parts compared to the 20-something from the earlier sets.
And now that they got rid of the socket-cracking problem and are refining ideas of the old toys like the floppy gears and the stupid Phantoka combining-gimmick they're better than ever.

>>13565285
>I buy LEGO for the challenge

>>13565299
Nice, gonna pick up one then
>>13565310
its not for the challenge, but when I saw a classic revision of one of the og sets I got disappointed because it seemed simpler.

I like them, I didn't like the later redesigns though.

>>13565461
The Phantoka/Mistika figures or the 2015 reboot ones?
The 2015 figures are absolutely fantastic.

>>13564934
I remember having so much hype for the Bionicle of Light reveal in the comics. Then there was a panel that just said "LOL WATCH THE MOVIE TO FIND OTU WHAT HAPPENS FAGET" and I was so mad I never saw the movie. It was bullshit how they looked so different from the toys and comic characters too.

The Mask of Light set with his giant finish was amazing though.

>>13565617
>The 2015 figures are absolutely fantastic.

it's not actually, i don't have to like what you find amazing is that okay

>>13564900
I used to like them when I was younger.

I thought the commercials were cool enough for me to want them. Then I went to their website and they had a cool flash game. I was hooked until they kept pumping out new stuff ever 6 months. Figures for a toy company, but I lost interest about a couple of years into it.

I was really into it from 2001 to 2005, bought lots of the sets, frequented BZPower, drew fanart, etc. Around 2006 I quite keeping up with it..

>>13564944
The concept really was interesting. It's fascinating to read the creators' statements about the development of the IP and see that they had the true nature of Mata-Nui and everything planed out from the very beginning.

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>>13565813
Speaking of which, apparently Faber started digging up and posting even more old concept material just this year. Wow, I didn't know.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbiNuEv60c Holy shit, this video. Fascinating stuff. Especially interesting is that among all these very early models they had a Muaka that was so similar to the finished piece.

Anyone remember those, what, 3-5 consecutive Bionicle generals we had some time ago? That was a glorious time.

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>>13565919
I like that the concept art team behind the reboot put some nods to those prototypes into their designs.

>>13566026
>You mirin'?

>>13566026
>>13566020
I never got why they decided to make Stone and Earth two separate elements.

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BONEHEADS OF VOODOO ISLAND

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I'm not a huge fan of Bionicle (though the very first set of them was very cool), but I love Roboriders and Slizers. Too bad Lego dropped those series in favour of Bionicle.
Just look at dem glorious designs.

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>>13566085
And Roboriders.

>>13566085
The thing I liked about Slizers the most were probably their containers. As a kid I really loved the idea of being able to attach them to the belt an take them anywhere I wanted.

As for Roboriders, I've never had one, but I had a chance to play with my friend's sets. They were quite cool.

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>>13564900
Yes.

The 2015 sets are decent, Onua and Protector of Earth being the shining examples of the line. The 2016 sets however look like garbage.

>>13564900
Loved bionicles for many years.

The new ones are great, gearboxes, high PC counts. The problem is the lore. It isn't as deep or vibrant as the original story was.

>>13566085
Hey I remember these.

>>13564900
I used to love Bionicle back in the day. I'd spent my entire childhood on BZPower.

>>13566010
>>13566020
>>13566026
>>13566031


These are pretty badass

>>13564980
They can be fun. I kept rewatching them every now and then, so I don't have to fear about not liking them, since I recall practically every frame.

Writing's shit and good god, MOL's ending is a complete load of fuck, but I enjoy them from an artistic standpoint, dat art direction, dem atmosphere, dat music. The cheap CGI has its charm too. TLR is irredeemable, though.

>>13566644
>I'd spent my entire childhood on BZPower.
I hope you turned out comparatively okay.

>>13566056
As I recall, they wanted four originally, but they added an extra two, so they used whichever elements suited the original setting best.

Also
>earth: ground and underground stuff, soil, connected to the very earth itself
>stone: just rocks

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>tfw Kopaka hit the gym

>>13565919
That's what I found so fascinating about some of this early stuff, including Slizers. They're so unlike what you'd expect an average kids' robot toyline to be, what with all these creepy heads and faces, out-there designs and the almost surreal aura that surrounds them. They could have been simple, generic, humanoid robo guys (sorta like some of the later Bionicle designs), but no, they actually went creative with them.

>>13566742
G2 seems to be
earth: dirt, crystals, minerals
stone: rocks, dust, metals

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>>13566778
>creepy heads and faces

They look almost appealing compared to the VERY early Lego action figure design concepts.

I like how fucking Bionicles saved Lego back in the 2000s shit was so fucking popular back then apparently lego was getting a 1 million+ hits on there Bionicle pages for days.

>>13566819
And now it's just... there. Another LEGO line out of many, with minimal media support compared to the current heavy-hitters.

Oh well, maybe the show will spice things up a bit.

>>13566820
He looks absolutely terrified at his current state.

>>13566809
>>13566820
I am afraid

>>13566736
I was a staff member there for like two years, but surprisingly it didn't fuck me up -too- bad

>>13566855
I'd be terrified too if I was like that.

>>13564986
Is that Nickelback?

>>13565919
That's fucking amazing, thanks for sharing

>>13565617
The last ones I was really into were the Bohrok, I would pay good money for a re-release since I accidentally broke some of mine since I played with them so much

>>13564944
>The amount of worldbuilding and design that went into the first 3 years was absolutely incredible and easily stands toe-to-toe with the worldbuilding of the Universal Century in Gundam.

And yet when I watched the CG movies, I was amazed at how little worldbuilding I saw.

>>13565008

Dayum. That was a very big robot.

I just looked at all the Bionicles after 2005, damn the word ugly can't even begin to describe what I saw.

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>>13567152
The movies weren't particularly well done, anyway, and if you watch them these days they'll will be cringeworthy as hell with their indirect killings, tons of animation errors and in The Legend Reborn's case more lore errors in the first five minutes than a Bethesda game.
Not to mention that the first one was basically LotR - The Abridged Robot Version.

>>13567152

The movies were very odd with how they had all this implied lore that I'm sure as hell must have confused casual viewers, but they never explained any of that. Heck, the second movie was a prequel, yet the characters kept making references to even earlier events. But the movies were basically just condensed visual representations of the story, they weren't meant to cover the whole deal. To get the whole story, you needed to play the games and read the books and comics.

Lego kinda fucked themselves over with spreading all this across so many media platforms and not having an easily accessible way for following the story. All that work put into it, so little of it actually reaching its audience.

>>13566845
>attractive characters

>>13565285

It's a child's toy

of course it's casual

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I used to have a whole bunch stretching from the original Toa all the way up to those fish monster villains, but I gave most of them to a younger cousin a couple of years ago. The only one I kept was Toa Iruini since he was always my favorite.

>>13566031

>jungle
>not Air

Wait, why?

On the island of Matu Nui, the great spirit is making you read this in my voice.

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I remember the Inika and Piraka being pretty controversial among hardcore Bionicle fans because of how radically different they were from anything else we had gotten up to that point.

Oh, and that whole using hip-hop and All-American Rejects songs for the commercials thing.

>>13567289
They even poke fun at this in the books and web-series.

>>13567312
Don't forget the guns.

>>13567289
Kids got confused about why the green toy represented air. They wanted to keep it as air for the reboot, but changed it.

>>13567289
If it matters, he still uses air, but he also now has plant powers.

Too bad the writers for the book and webisodes shut him down whenever he tries to use anything involving air.

>>13565299
Yeah, I really appreciate all the effort they now put into the builds... well, for most of 'em. Some people seem to think that they're basically like the Hero Factory toys, one torso piece with an armor slapped on, basic limbs, and that's it. But they actually have pretty interesting, relatively intricate builds under the armor plating.

Even the small sets have complexity, lightyears ahead of the shitty "giant torso, one-piece limbs, flat bodies" sets they put put at the end of G1.

How many Bohrok is too many Bohrok?

>>13564944
Bionicle's setting feels like it would have been more suited fro a tabletop RPG or video game and animu than selling toys. The fact that Lego came up with something so bizarre and unique has to do with the fact that this was the first IP they really put a lot of thought into. The new Bionicle is just a sad hollow shell of its former self.

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>>13567152
That's why you play MNOG, watch the flash animations, read the comics, and ignore the rest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31sv7biYkk

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>>13564900
Even Bionicles have touhou fanart.

>>13567383
What about books? After all, those are the most complete when it came to presenting the story. The comics were mostly pretty useless, almost as much as the movies in some years.

>>13567312
>>13567326


>Dissing on the Piraka rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1CTPC02n0c

Inika were kinda cool the whole story behind it was if you guys remember those Motoran back in Mask of Light they become Toa to fight Piraka who were some of the most brutal villains in Bionicle.

>>13566773

Fackin' joocy

>>13567365
There is never enough Bohrok.

>>13567478
The books are a very mixed bag, mostly because of Greg Farshtey. And then when the serials came out, Bionicle was officially dead to me.

One of the things I hated about the fanbase in later years was that they needed to be spoonfed every single detail. Because of that, Bionicle's story went down the toilet.

>>13567614
>not wanting to canonize every smudge in the comics as new species of Fikou Nui

What are you, non-autistic?

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A friend of mine sent me this pic and a few others like it a couple of days back.

What do you guys think of it?

>>13567756
I don't really like these dumb "sexy" mocs.

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>>13567759
They're a bit weird, and honestly, when my friend sent me these pics, I wasn't sure at first what they were.

But, I realized they were going for "sexy" and I kinda went "Ohhhhhhh!"

Anyway, weird shit, not even sure how the hell they managed it.

>>13567782
>>13567756

I just remember there used to be a mod on the BZPower forums (may it rot in hell) who would lose her goddamn mind every time someone made a female MOC with noticeable tits.

>>13568444
I believe you're talking about Tufi Piyufi

>>13568456

Yes, that name sounds familiar.

God, that site was such a shithole looking back.

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>>13566948

Which one were you?

Remember this guy?

>>13568444
>BZPower forums (may it rot in hell)
Oh come on. Can't speak for it nowadays, but back before the franchise died it was a surprisingly fun website to hang out at. I'd take oldschool BZP over /m/ from any period, any day.

>>13568600

It was such a fun place. like the time when they banned that guy for not being American.

>>13564900
That generation of Toa designs is bittersweet. They added way more joints, which was great, but the masks and body segments are so plain and boring looking.

>>13568607
>for not being American
Explain

>>13568622

Oh man, it's been so long. IIRC Bionicle Rex banned this one guy for some reason related to America and it was really frivolous and stupid. It's something only the oldest users would even remember.

>>13568600
BZP literally ran every other Bionicle forum into the ground, like Mask of Destiny. It even used to have a "no mention of other forums!" policy implemented to eliminate the "competition".

>>13568831

Something about the Bionicle fandom really attracted a specific subset of autists who were also massive christians and homeschooled too.

As a result BZP's userbase was ridiculously conservative until a few years ago when they all grew up, discovered tumblr and hit the forum like a progressive sledgehammer.

>>13567756
To see work of Toa-Ju's upscaled and warped in such a way is disappointing.

I love fembots of all forms though so w/e.

>>13568847

Dedicated forums in general kind of became obsolete after Tumblr and Reddit got big. Why bother with a shoddy Invision board when you could just go find a subreddit or something?

>>13568857
>Toa-Ju'
Man it's been a long ass time.

I wonder what they've been up to.

>>13565745
Oh, I remember that flash game. Was it the one where you walk around by clicking?

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>>13568476


>tfw all those forums you used to use are dead or you deleted your account

>>13568994

A few years back I went and deleted every single blogpost on my BZP account. That shit was just so embarassing.

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>>13568905
He's dead anon.
It's okay though, there's plenty of gaijins learning how to make giant CCBS ass n' titties, so it's all good.

Bricklink guide my hand.

>>13566085
sub slizer was GODLIKE its a shame lego doesnt make those gearboxes anymore or else i would have made a sub slizer army by now.

>>13569004

I blogged for a while too. Then I realized no one else actually gives a shit about my life and stopped.

>>13566085
I had the blaster slizer

It looked fucking badass, (one of the best constraction figures around, if only for that mask) but I seem to remember problems with standing it up. The feet were all floppy.

>>13568600
The site went to shit after the franchise was put on hiatus. As someone else mentioned, first it was flooded by Christians and assholes like the one mentioned in >>13568476, and after that came the tumblrites. For the last couple of years, the site's been holding onto a very negative image in the eyes of many, mostly due to all the man-hating swj shit that went down there, for instance heated arguments over "muh robot toy gender/LGBT representation" and other stuff that seemed to crop up every few months. Also add the usual fandom drama, corrupt mods, the forum losing the bulk of its members, and mixed together with the usual autism that's always surrounded the userbase, this resulted in a horrid concoction of degeneracy.

It's not as bad now, but Jesus.

>>13570107
>swj
You know what I meant.

>>13569100
Yeah, you had to pose him with bent knees. Such a crude, primitive model, but it gets points for being one of the very first "titan" sets. Also I've always been intrigued by his split face and how he came into being.

So whatever happened to the old universe? Did it just suddenly stop and REEEEEEBOOT?

Or is there a connection between the old and new universe?

>>13570131

Complete reboot.

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>forgetting the time when Lego went full /m/

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went to shit after Metru

>>13570155
Nobody forgot, but nobody mentioned it because some were turned away by the anime faces. I didn't mind them personally. Still don't and I thought the story was going somewhere.

>>13567614
>The books are a very mixed bag, mostly because of Greg Farshtey.
What makes the comics different, considering he wrote them too?

>>13570234

The comics are shorter and have much less content, so there's less GregF to deal with.

>>13570239
Then why even read the comics in the first place?

>implying people actually read them
>not just look at the colorful pictures

>>13570249

The art was nice.

>>13570275
Some of it was.

>>13570107

See, I left long before the hiatus/"end," roundabout the tail end of the Inika days. I felt like things started going to shit around the time they introduced blogs. The site was already being run by corrupt mods and admins and was flooded by Christians. I know it was a site for kids/young teens and all, but it was kind of disturbing how some people acted sometimes.

I don't remember their name, but I remembered there was an account that was shared by a brother and sister from a devout Christian family. Eventually the brother got his own name, no big deal, but things got weird when their -mom- joined the site and became a really active poster. I remember she posted a lot of fanfiction about her self-insert OC that was really creepy at times because she wrote a lot of romance/shipping fics.

>>13570554
>I don't remember their name, but I remembered there was an account that was shared by a brother and sister from a devout Christian family. Eventually the brother got his own name, no big deal, but things got weird when their -mom- joined the site and became a really active poster. I remember she posted a lot of fanfiction about her self-insert OC that was really creepy at times because she wrote a lot of romance/shipping fics.
Oh, I remember that. IIRC the mom was active prior to her children though.

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>>13570155
>That time constraction went full /m/

Those sets were my second-favorite HF wave after Breakout.

>>13570554
>>13570568
I think recall that as well, never noticed much of the religious stuff back at the time, though. It still crops from time to time, but thankfully most people seem to know to keep it to themselves. Although there was a time when bonesiii (who should get slapped up the face real good by the way) tried to ask people not to treat evolution as fact, nothing dramatic, but as I recall they eventually had to make a statement that yes, you can freely talk about evolution on the site.

I only followed the site beginning from around the middle of '05, so I knew about a lot of the "classic" big name members there, but I only remember one or two of them now.

>>13570131
Supposedly the old universe continues on in stories we'll never see. New stuff is a new universe with no connection. So how long do you think it'll be before they do a cross over?

>>13570637

>bonesiii

The guy who wrote an entire term paper's worth of shit every time he posted no matter what the subject? I think of all the people who had sticks up their asses on that site, his was the biggest and lodged the deepest.

>>13570719

He's got a massive creationism essay on his own personal website.

>>13570719
>>13570725
Yes. He seems to spew creationism everywhere he goes. I once found him on some travel destination website or wherever, where he spammed up the comment section of some creationist museum with literally hundreds upon hundreds of posts. It was madness, this guy just cannot stop once he starts spewing fuckshit. I felt embarrassed scrolling down and down and down, seeing his undending flood of anti-science ramblings.

Though always calling himself a logician and shit, he's just plain... dumb. Like, his "arguments" for why science/atheism/other religions/being gay are wrong and evil are the absolute most *basic* stuff that's been debunked a million times over. He displays every beginner-level logical fallacy in the book, like a walking embodiment of creationist stereotypes.

On a positive note, he's digitally made some creative mini MOCs of characters.

Why do I know so much about this cretin?

>>13570554
I wanna hear more about this mom, she sounds hilarious.

>>13564900
I have q funny story about bionicles actually...
So there was this kid at my high school, and he was (and i am using this in its actual context) super autistic.
Additionally he had probably the most EXTREME foot fetish ever, and could not keep it private at all. He was ao obsessed with women's feet that he successfully determined the genders of two people by the smell of their shoes in a blindfolded ABX test.

Anyway, he LOOOOOVED Bionicles (they're pretty dope, so that's reasonable), and naturally he took that shit way too seriously.
There was some sort of Christmas gift exchange thing, and he asked for his designated gift giver to get a bionicle (a very specific one iirc) for him. She couldn't find it at all, as this was during a time when Bionicles were not exactly common toys, and for the most part they were not available and out of production, so she got him something else (i don't know what) and when he got it, he threw an EXPLOSIVE tantrum, repeating "I WANTED A BIONICLE! YOU BITCH! I'LL KILL YOU!", etc over and over again until the AP arrived and escorted him out, kicking and screaming.

>>13570985
top kek
was this around the time of the visorak line? A lot of those kits were pretty rare

>>13571763
I'm not sure, it was in 2010/11, I was in 10th grade at the time

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>>13570651
Not anymore. There's some kind of connection being hinted.

The island of Mata Nui's in the new promo stuff for some reason.

>>13571868

Isn't that just the new island, okoto or whatever?

>>13571868
Okay let me explain what I meant.

You know how DC comics have Earth 1 and Earth 2? They're not really connected but they still both have Superman, Batman, etc and both have places like Earth?

That Mata Nui in the new stuff is the new universe's version of it.

>>13571868
Wasn't the mask of time in the new animations or something?

>>13570915

Like I said, I don't really remember. She had that whole "beaten wife" air about her and the stories (or was it fanart?) she created had really creepy vaguely sexual undertones. Considering this was a deeply Christian family and we're talking about a boys toyline of biomechanical tribal superheroes...

>>13572517

I think you mean either Lady Kopaka or Hahli Husky?

>>13572331
Yes. The Mask of Time actually makes a physical appearance in the first 2015 novel.

>>13572538

That first one maybe? I'd need something to refresh my memory and I don't know if I want to go down that road.

>>13572541
How does that work? Was that novel written by Greg too?

>>13572538
>>13572543
There was also a once very active mom member going by the screen name Macku: Toa of Bubbles. Though I have no idea if it was her, since I don't remember much about these people.

>>13572517
GaliGee?

>>13572584
Greg was only a consultant in the early phase of development, the book was actually authored by veteran Star Wars writer Ryder Windham.

As for the mask, it's just there, and the Protectors use it to summon the Toa.