ITT: Mechs that could be viable IRL

Was Titanfall viable?

I love Titanfall but it has some ugly ass fucking mechs.
>inb4 all western mechs are like that
No.

>>13552090
nope

>it's grey and greebly
>that means it's REALISTIC

>>13552090
I think so,just a bit. their main purpose seemed to be to support infantry in urban areas and reach vertical superiority as well as enhance firepower, so that gives them an edge over a tank especially if you factor in how quick they can be and their force field things

None of them. I'm serious. The best you'll get is powered armor or a tank with "legs" to help facilitate movement through shit terrain.

>>13552095
They arent all like titanfall's but they are all ugly
except for Syd Mead's

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>>13552088
not even close to the only actual one.

>>13552088
But that's not a mech.

>>13552088
Powered armour is probably the best you'll ever see.

Small load bearing quadrupeds like Big Dog make sense and unmanned aerial drones of all shapes and sizes will continue to be around. But large legged warfighting machines will probably never happen because the very concept simply isn't all that viable.

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>>13552122
>a tank with "legs" to help facilitate movement through shit terrain.

I'm okay with this. It can still leave a bit of room for creative/cool designs.

>>13552202
oh god is that some Quo Vadis

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>>13552088

Like anything else, we just need a power-source.

The PURPOSE of the Titans is solid.

But they're still too big.

>>13552122

So a Scopedog? They're only 12 ft tall after all.

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>>13554254
>not fuchikomas

>>13552184
I hold out hope that when they figure out how to make self supporting robots with a less than 5% failure rate that can walk themselves around rooms without tripping, that we can get Titan style mechs.

The interface from human to vehicle is there, the portability of heavy weaponry is there.

We just need to put it on legs.

>>13552100
As dumb as this may sound, I've got the idea that mechs could be used in urban combat as support units/effective blockers of corridors, think about that shield as a place where medics could do quick field surgery.
You'd use a mech in the future when you don't wanna completely bombard/level the city, but normal firepower and infantry aren't enough to break the line.

The very concept of a large, legged mech is realistically impractical and unnecessary. Power armor/exoskeletons is probably the best we'll ever get.

>>13552088
The only thing 'viable' about a Titan is its cockpit hatch being styles on real tank cupolas.

>>13552202
>>13552122
>a tank with "legs" to help facilitate movement through shit terrain.
>weight and using legs, even several of them, means they will only be able to move over hard surfaces

>>13555087
power armor as in an armored up point man for special operations

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>>13552100
If I recall their origins are as a laborer power armor. They became weapons after being a tool of industry.
That's not an uncommon backstory for mechs.

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>>13552095
But the Ogres are awesome looking

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>>13555113
I wish Avatar had more yellow, unarmed AMP suits walking around in the background carrying cargo.

>titanfall
>mech

>>13555157
I sorely hoped that avatar and aliens would take place in the same universe setting.
I think Cameron made the choice specifically to keep both settings distinct.

>>13552100
>especially if you factor in how quick they can be
What is it with people on this board thinking that mecha can realisitically ever be quicker than their equivalents?
Bipedal motion is one of the slowest possible ways for something to move

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>>13552088
If you wanted a Guntank thread, why didn't you just say so?

Here is the Local Defense Type variant.

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You all must be new to mecha. Here is what a real life mech looks like. It's from Metal Gear you may have heard of it.

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>>13556229
Don't be daft. Man-sized mechs are the future.

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>>13552088
The Gears and Striders of Heavy Gear

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>>13556547
>>13552088
A collection of some vehicles from the Confederated Northern City States.

>>13554254

Tachicoma a shit.

>>13554294
they are both pure sex though

>>13556155
Okay what if we gave it four legs.

>>13556155
well I was thinking more in universe since once they learn how to run/free run mechs tend to become more useful but i don't know how that would work realistically, maybe something like what code geass did with the land spinners?

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Can't believe no one's posted this yet.

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>>13558134
>Tank-type AC
We all know what the best AC type is though.

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Cops in cop forklifts.

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>>13558843
>>13556547

Labors / Gears and smaller really are like the ideal size for mecha IMO.

>>13558139
Sawa-quads everywhere.

>>13558888
They are far more feasible then Gundams obviously, but still impractical as much as Titans.

Just set your shit in space/low grav colonies you "REAL MECHZ" autistic fucks, giant walking tanks will always be stupid on Earth.

The locomotion problem could get fixed by magic future technology. The problem is that a large mech is always going to be a big, easy to hit target. Based on its dimensions, it would require far more armor than a tank to achieve the same levels of protection, and with modern or future targeting capabilities, mobility isn't going to ever make up for that lack of armor. The moment you start getting much taller than a tank you are leaving the realm of viability.

Space/Low gravity doesn't change that, you will always want as small a target profile as possible, and there is no plausible reason a better form factor wouldn't work better.

The real future isn't replacing tanks, its upgrading infantry, heavy armor and heavier weapons while maintaining most of the mobility of an infantryman would be hugely valuable. But even a relatively small mech like a scopedog, or something from heavy gear is too big, and ends up being a tank replacement. You are really looking for something at most 6-12 inches taller than the occupant, that can crouch or go prone to use cover.

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>>13552088
These guys, and the mechs from HAWKEN.

capeshit and powersuits nice

>>13558134
>>13558139
Would these designs even be viable? Stable enough firing platforms. Hell, one of them is a fucking single-pilot "tank". The only big issue I could see is resource use and the cost. Boosters solve most of it's mobility issues.

>>13556229
yeah see the problem is profile

the tank needs to be as low to the ground as possible as its much harder to shoot, any thing high up, on legs etc say please shoot me first and presents a huge larger than you can't miss. one guy/small tracked robot with a rocket launcher > mech and a lot less costly

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> realistic mecha
> military purpose

kek

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>U.S. Military, stop this foolishness at once!
>Don't you know mecha are impractical!?

They see me strolling, they hatin, trollin they trying to catch me stridin dirtyyyyy.

>>13562183
Shh, don't tell them about the leg units they tested in the sandbox.

>>13561335
tanks with arms?
what will the articulated arms do that fixed hard points won't?

>>13558888
Gears are better due to rollers.

>>13559549
obvious troll

>>13562183
>comparing a glorified forklift suit to giant combat robots

>>13562268
>>comparing something possible to Unicorn Rainbow fantasy
Ayy

>>13562249
Load shells.

Repair treads.

Build baracades

Loading missile launchers.

Really, a robotic arm just to load weapons is worthwhile. Some missiles can weigh the better part of a ton.

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As much as I like 40k


Look at this fucking thing

>>13562276
lol why not pack KP and the head too?
just pack in all on the tank!

Saying shit like "realistic" or "viable" will always trigger /k/, you marooons.
Keep IRL out of /m/.

Just say what you want grunty serious version of Gundam/Patlabor and start from there.
Or just settle for future tanks.

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>>13552088
>we want the Bayformer audience
Looks like a carburetor.

>>13562276
We already have that though on engineering vehicles.

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>>13562268
It's an easy comparison to make because one begets the next.

See that cable on the ground behind it? That's to supply power to the unit because a human sized frame does not allow much room for batteries or engines.

The simple solution is to make a bigger frame and drive it with the same piloting system. Once you accept that is viable, a machine two to three times the size of the pilot is feasible.

It's still small enough to be considered infantry augmentation, but big enough to be a "giant robot" by definition.

>>13562294
Because being able to shoot more than six times in a battle is a good thing.

>>13562442
>It's an easy comparison to make because one begets the next.
No it doesn't, you retard. Suits that enhance lifting strength? That's a non-retarded idea. It's physically possible, it doesn't violate any laws of physics and it actually has a purpose. It's still far off from being practical technology because this shirt hard, despite whatever fantasies about current tech you may have.

Giant combat robots? Fucking stupid. From a physics, engineering and tactical perspective it's nothing but seven shades of retarded. It serves no purpose and it's not even physically feasible.

>HUR HUR GIANT INFANTRY
You are literally this fucking stupid. Just stop posting, you overgrown and reality detached manchild.

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>>13562461
Stop being such a buzzkill

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What about M.D Geist?

>>13562690
He's the most dangerous.

>>13562461
>Giant combat robots? Fucking stupid. From a physics, engineering and tactical perspective it's nothing but seven shades of retarded. It serves no purpose and it's not even physically feasible.

How big are we talking? I mean, does 8 feet count as too big? 8 feet? 15 feet? I don't think anyone here is taking the 60 foot gundam seriously.

>You are literally this fucking stupid. Just stop posting, you overgrown and reality detached manchild.

If you've been reduced to name calling you've already lost. Consider saving your breath.

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>>13562318
Night /k/ has had some fairly balanced discussions on the topic.
It's the summertime autistics, who fear that their call of duty fantasies will be obsolete, that refuse to even speculate on what comes next.

The worlds changing faster than ever and the brass is head over heels for robotics. It's a matter of time before someone deploys a tin man to combat.
...and the only thing better than the standard robot is a bigger and more capable robot.

>>13556245
This is actually correct, man-sized cyborgs and robots are much better than tanks

>>13563215
True

But

What if you wanted some more firepower?

>>13563492
Missles

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>>13552088
>Mechs that could be viable IRL

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>>13563492
LOIC

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>>13562264
Rollers are sweet, and they certainly make a ton of sense...

and as such, they're seen quite often in patlabor.