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>>13544041
>yaraon
Stop posting Japanese Kotaku.

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>>13544041
Should be refrased as guy does mechanical designs for IBO and designed the barbatos is praising IBO (the show he's working on) as a more professional work than g-reco
also LOL Naohiro Washio

>>13544041
/m/ is such a shit board that I don't understand why people bother raiding it, just go back to facebook or move to /b/ or /v/ faggot

>>13544063
>Naohiro Washio
He's good

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>>13544086
Eh, his stuffs pretty hit or miss
but worse he's a nena fag. I bet hes personally responsible posts all those nena threads here on /m/. i wouldnt be surprised if he made this thread as well

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>>13544041
>IBO as a more professional work than G Reco

So we really shouldn't take this guy seriously

>>13544041
Orga looks tsundere in that pic

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>>13544286
Guess he's asspained he never worked on it.

>someone praising a currently-airing show they work on
Holy shit stop the presses.

>>13544296
That scene was so fantastically animated. I cream myself every time.

>>13544286
Maybe he's talking about the work environment or something, not the show. Hard to tell when no one can actually read Japanese and OP is being baity.

>>13544286
Wait, what the hell is going on in this scene? Did the animation lose track of itself or something? Not watching IBO, please don't tell me this shit is frequent.

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>>13544378
nah the animation is usually much better

>>13544384
That still looks like shit

>>13544041

To be fair, with the exception of a handful of exceptional scenes on which they blew the budget (>>13544296 gets posted a lot for a reason, that looks good) G-Recos artstyle is kind of shit. They used modern animation techniques, and then intentionally went back and made the line art grainy and shitty in order to emulate an older period of animation technology. Its clearly an artistic choice, but its one that is literally them adding in flaws they didn't need to have, and the result is an artstyle that makes me physically ill every time I see it.

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yeah fucking recofags and their shit taste amirite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvaosZlQqrY
look at this shit, it uses the same filters and was even animated by that HACK yoshida. what a lazy piece of shit using shortcuts like that
and it looks like absolute garbage
now if you'll excuse me i'm off to enjoy the exquisite visuals of IBO

>>13544321
I feel bad for the people behind IBO. They must feel so outclassed by G-Reco.

>>13544384
That actually looked terrible. Your brain probably couldn't handle G-Reco amirite?

>>13544421
Visuals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Story

Any day of the week, fagit.
They wasted Yoshida's talent on polishing a turd.

>>13544384
What the fuck is it doing in the middle?

That just looks stupid, is he even dodging anything?

The hooks, SpongeBob! THE HOOKS!

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>>13544448
It's all from episode 5.

Also they're cherrypicking the bad stuff.
There's also decent shots in between.

Wonder how much the BD will fix.

>>13544458
You know that has the same stupid bit I was commenting on right? Just towards the end this time

Also the shot around 10 seconds annoys me there as it looks like he is flying around the planet/down to it. The perspective is all fucked

>>13544437
Anime is a visual medium so you have to have good visuals as well as good story, to say a show is fine if it looks like utter garbage but has a decent story is retarded and you're better off reading a book.

>>13544428
I like Greco and I'm enjoying IBO so far
I fucking hate you snapfit-kin though

>>13544458
You can't fix 'Bad: The Anime.'

>>13544041
>works on IBO
>hasn't worked on G-Reco
Gee. I'll totally believe his words, he doesn't sound unbiased at all.

And what does he mean by more professional? Because IBO seems just more geared toward making easy otaku-bucks, while G-Reco was Tomino going wild and not giving any shits of what gunotas wanted from him.

>>13544437
>They wasted Yoshida's talent on polishing a turd.
That would imply G-Reco is a turd. Which it isn't. G-Reco is great.

>>13544463
You know that I used it to illustrate the context, right?
Why don't you read my post again?
Maybe something will click.

>>13544467
I'd say it's okay if the visuals are at least decent but IBO is too often sub-par even in shots that shouldn't require any effort on the animators part, characters just sitting down talking and the show can look awful. Plus it goes between okay to QUALITY so quickly it sets it n even more, some scenes feel like every other shot is bad

>>13544467
A bad looking show with a good story is worth more than a good looking one with a crap story.

The former is just unfortunate. The later is a waste of talent, time and money.
Which sums up G-Reco pretty well.

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>>13544488
It isn't cherry picking when it's everywhere, especially when the shots aren't inbetweens, they can last long enough for you to clearly see

Bad shots should no be anywhere close to the same number as the okay ones, and that isn't even taking into account all the bad non action scenes

>>13544495
Nah, not really. G-Reco is great. Great and animation and a great story, so there's something for everyone.

>>13544041
Well I suppose this thread did what the OP intended

Why can't /m/ learn some 'understanding'

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>>13544495
>A bad looking show with a good story is worth more than a good looking one with a crap story.
Case in point.

>>13544512
>Old animation is bad

>>13544508
Maybe if you're retarded.

>>13544513
Dude, everyone knows the 0079 tv show had shit animation.

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>>13544513
Even for its time 0079 looked really rough

>>13544518
So you've got no arguments? Okay.

>>13544522
Why is zeta regarded as good then?

>>13544528
Only Zetafags do that.
Everyone else knows Zeta is shit.

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>>13544525

>>13544533
>>>/tv/

>>13544533
Ah, the classical "image reaction" rebuttal. I also love the variant of it, "image reaction with greentext".

>>13544532
Here's your reply.

>>13544543
The joke is that this is exactly how the Rectard argues.

Right down to the same "hilarious" reaction images.
Don't look now, cause you're part of the punchline.

>>13544552
>The joke is that this is exactly how the Rectard argues.
No, this is how shitposters who hate G-Reco fans argue, and then claim they're the ones doing it, just like what you're doing now.

>>13544558
Don't try to act like he's not part of your fandom.

You bred that monster.
You take responsibility for him.
That's why we call him the Rectard.

>>13544563
>Don't try to act like he's not part of your fandom.
He's not, he's just an idiot trying to start shit up, and you guys fall for its bait all the fucking time.

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>>13544528
>0079 tv show
>zeta

When is the "Greco was good" meme going to die
It was boring and cliche'd. Couldn't give two shits about any of the characters and the story was tired and predictable. Not to mention the quality and consistency of animation was completely wasted on boring designs and an artstyle that completely hid the animation itself.

Total waste.

>>13544565
>I was never a member of the Nazi party. I was part of the resistance, I swear. Nobody here voted for Hitler.

Whatever, Hans.

>>13544571
When is the "Greco was bad" meme going to die
It was entertaining and original. The characters and the story was awesome and fun. Not to mention the quality and consistency of animation was completely done on sexy designs and a fusion of old and modern artstyle that completely enrich the animation itself.

Total Worth it.

>>13544571
Here's your reply

>>13544571
When is the "stuff I disagree with is a meme" meme going to die? I mean I know we're on /m/ - memes but really

>>13544572
>Godwin's law
Inb4 Reddit

>>13544571
Give it a couple of years.

The thing with G-Reco is that the central themes are trite and have been handled better by other shows and the characters are dull as dish water, replacing interesting traits and flaws with generic quirkiness. The problem isn't that it's a children's show, it's that it's an inherently childish show, written by somebody who's utterly out of touch with the youth of today.

It holds no inherent value and won't stand the test of time.

>>13544594
Good to know you realize how stupid you are.

>>13544602
>implying rectards will ever get off of the old baldys cock

>>13544602
Nah, G-Reco is great. I'm sure people will compare it with every new Gundam show that will come in the future.

>>13544608
You sound so mad anon. Did Tomino rape you or something?

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>>13544602
>The problem isn't that it's a children's show, it's that it's an inherently childish show, written by somebody who's utterly out of touch with the youth of today.

Implying you know anything about the youth of today. May I remind you that you must be at least 18 years old to view this board?

>It holds no inherent value and won't stand the test of time.

Subjective.

>>13544608
>Implying rectards will ever get off of the old baldys cock

We will see how much hair you have when you get that old.

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK OFF
KILL YOURSELF
Yaraon links should be a bannable offense

>>13544620
>opinions
>tripfags
Yeah, that's a waste of bandwith. Get out of here.

guess this is the designated shitposting thread for today then?

>>13544629
Are you upset?

Don't let the G-Reco talk distract from IBO being even shittier.

>>13544508
>and a great story
So how abysmally low are your standards?

>>13544643
this

I'm on episode 13
When does bellri get actual characterization
He's just Phillip J Fry; Guard Cadet.

>>13544645
Actually they're really high, and that's why I like G-Reco's story, because it's great.

>>13544296
>It's blocking the Gaitrash's beam saber with its hands!
I'm so glad G-Reco was for intelligent people who didn't need the obvious expositioned to them.

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>>13544653
Amen to that, brother.

Did you know that the Rose of Hermes blueprints are the stuff of legend?

>>13544653
>I'm so glad G-Reco was for intelligent people who didn't need the obvious expositioned to them.
EXACTLY! G-Reco is only for people who are
1. Educated
2. Patient
3. Attentive, and
4. Analytic
Greco rewards people who are intelligent enough ito understand it. It doesn't make it easy to follow because it's not for the average anime fan who need everything fucking explained to them like they're goddamn children.

And that's why it's the probably the best anime in the past 20-30 years, hands down. It's the first real mecha for intellectuals since LoGH...though honestly, I think it might surpass even that.

If you didn't like it, that means you're just not mature enough to really "Get it". In short, grow up, kid. And I'm not joking.

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>watching Gundam post-Turn A

>>13544664
Pasta/10

>>13544667
Nice rebuttal. Care to come back with an actual argument?

>>13544041
i'm pretty sure if everyone stupid enough to reply to this thread got banned then IBO and Greco threads would be able to exist in harmony shitpost free
guess that includes me though, oh well

>>13544664
This a thousand time this keluarga.
Most people who hate G-reco for "no story" have never ever watch gundam before.

YO LISTEN UP.

>Naohiro Washio
So, the guy they're writing the clickbait about IS NOT Naohiro Washio, the designer of Barbatos, and the Fafners. It's this fella https://twitter.com/yanagi_jou, who's just some random dude that does mechanical PROP design. He's also a literally who. Only two works in his C.V.

He also never specifically mentions G-Reco in his tweets and says he finds IBO somewhat uninteresting, albeit professionally made, which technically it is, since it's made by a professional company.

Learn Japanese you dipshit, OP before pretending to act like some authority.

Also, they take his tweets out of context. It seems Nips like to do the false flagging shit too just to stir up the pot.

/thread

SU-cordism was the dumbest shit no level of suspension of disbelief could get past. 'Let's LITERALLY worship a space elevator despite having a real understanding of advanced technologies because it's convenient for the plot.'

>>13544674
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>13544674
>this will be lost in the shitposts and OPs mistranslation will become pasta forever
kill me

>>13544614
It'll fall into relative obscurity compared to its metaseries brethren. Just like Turn A.

>>13544669
Sorry, I don't have a pasta to respond to your pasta pal.

>>13544620
I like how you were so cocky about Reco earlier in the thread and then when someone brings up rational disagreements with your opinion you go rabid.

>>13544678
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/73321
Also, I follow Naohiro on twitter.

Makes sense, G-Reco was shit.

>>13544675

Su-Cordism also didn't do anything for the plot besides have a pope they had to defend. It could have been literally anything. The pope could have been a typical space princess and nothing would have changed.

>>13544652
>Actually they're really high
If you think that non-plot, which ends back at square one, was great, then not really.

>>13544687
But anon!

It is taboo, remember?

>>13544689
Well if you think G-Reco's plot is a non-plot which ends back at square one, then you really haven't the show at all my friend.
I recommend that you do it, it's really great and you'll probably like it.

>>13544687
>people scream all the time BUT THIS IS TABOO!!!!
>2 seconds later they still do it
>repeat 400 times

Excellent writing right there.

>>13544675
>>13544687
Or maybe you're just retarded?

>>13544675
They worship the elevator because it brings the energy they desperately need, and which they can't comprehend because it literally blows up.

>>13544700
>plot is a non-plot which ends back at square one
Prove how it doesn't. Literally nothing changes, everything reverts back to the status-quo before the warmongers made their move.

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quality thread /m/

>>13544682
>Not filfering snapshit
I'm legitimately concerned and upset people don't do this.

>>13544685
Bub, you're going to need to cite a peer reviewed western periodical with a translation of these tweets if you want a legitimate source.
Until then, based OP's translation seems more believable. After all, he obviously knows what he's talking about.

Maybe you guys should reconsider my idea to not talk about G-Reco at all and ignore all G-Reco posts so the Rectards are forced to stay in their own threads and shitposters don't get replied to.

>>13544701
>strawmanning this hard

Excelent shitpost there.

>>13544704
its false flagger-kun again
such simple efficient shitposting
bravo

>>13544041
Well, that's not saying much, IBO is a tv-show presented as a tv-show, G-reco is a book presented as a tv-show.

>>13544664
This, this three thousand times.
I don't care if it's been said before, this really is the truth of G-Reco.

>>13544713
>strawmanning

I don't think you know what that means.

>>13544712
Found the retard

>>13544712
shitposters reply to shitposters
its the rectards look mods
ban them! ban them all!!!
i'm totally not one of them
im definately not orchestrating the whole thing because i want greco discussion banned or anything

>>13544709
But OP is a faggot.
Didn't you read the rules?

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>>13544722

>>13544722

They can discuss G-Reco in G-Reco threads. Keep that shit out of the rest of /m/, and everyone on /m/ can stop taking the bait.

It's not banning, it's apartheid.

>>13544729
lol
im ok with apartheid

>>13544664
>tips fedora

>>13544706
Well, apart from the fact that Aida is the new leader of Ameria, which isn't fighting war anymore, and is maintaining relations with the space factions, which desisted in their Reconguista plan, Bellri travelling around the world, yeah, nothing changed since episode 1 where Aida is a space pirate, Bellri is a cadet at Capital Tower and Cumpa is moving pieces for his master plan to happen, all while the space factions are preparing the Reconguista. Yup, nothing at all.

>>13544701
You know I'm a muslim and people keep telling me masturbating and porn are HARAM.
I still fap to it.
2 times per day
Everyday

>>13544750
>2015
>being a Muslim

>>13544760
>2015
>believing in a higher power

>>13544760
>/m/ - muslims
check your privelage

>>13544760
Its ok anon, you can hate me all you want, I still respect you and love you as a brother.
IBO is bomb tho

>>13544770
/m/ stands for memes.
Muslims confirmed for memes?
>>13544775
>spoiler
How do you know so much about bombs?

>>13544653

Didn't you know anon, it's okay when G-Reco does exposition (or anything at all), it's only other shows that need to be held up to standards. G-Reco can (and is) filled with tell not show, unnecessary exposition, repetition and all the other stuff trolls pretend to complain about other shows in comparison to G-Reco about, but it's fine when G-Reco does them because it does them better (note: the posters get to define better as and how they choose no matter how arbitrary).

The first 10 minutes alone has a good bit of exposition, much of it unnecessary and all to help ease viewers in to the show, from Bellri telling the viewer what he's doing with the beam wielder and how many charges it has (twice even I think) to talk about minovsky particles and so on. It's okay though, because it's G-Reco and if G-Reco is doing it it's fine. It's only when other shows are doing it that it's a problem.

I don't actually have a problem with G-Reco doing it by the way, it's fine, because some exposition is necessary for most any show. It's just amusing that shitposters keep acting like G-Reco is special and above other shows for doing it better - when better really just means they like the show so they don't mind the show doing it. People normally only complain about this stuff in shows they don't like, since it stands out more when you're already looking for things to dislike.

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>>13544775
No, I said my underwear was THE bomb.

>>13544781
anon pls,
I prefer to masturbate and sniffing my semen bag while watching gundam than bomb people.

>>13544747
>Yup, nothing at all.
>there is still hostility between Ameria and not-Europe
>SU-cordism still in place
>Spacenoids still control the batteries and their distribution
>Taboo still in place
>Kuntala still face "oppression"
>Venusians are still decaying

>Bellri travelling around the world
Oh so Bellri and Aida are apart, just like the previous status-quo before episode 1!

>>13544792
I thought the exposition in the form of a training exercise in episode 1 was pretty clever though.

>>13544803
>while watching gundam
Nice, confirmed for /m/uslim

>>13544811
About as clever as having the first 5 minutes of any anime taking place in a classroom where a teacher explains something crucial, which is basically self evident for the people that live in the world.

Fags act like G-Reco reinvented the wheel.

I would enjoy the show if they didn't go "WHOA SLOW DOWN THERE, LEMME TELL YOU ABOUT THE GJALLHORN AGAIN JUST IN CASE YOU HAPPENED TO FORGET" every damn episode

>>13544705
They know the batteries are human tech that's been rigged to explode if tampered with. SU-cordism was a pointless plot device.

>>13544819
Who else on /m/ - muslims watches gundam whilst enjoying some halal chicken tendies?

>>13544808
>there is still hostility between Ameria and not-Europe
President Zuccini is probably dead, so, no.
>SU-cordism still in place
SU-cordism was never a problem. Remember, CT wasn't the problem, it was when Cumpa expanded it into CA that it became a problem.
>Spacenoids still control the batteries and their distribution
And this is why Aida is travelling between Earth and the Venus Globe.
>Taboo still in place
The Taboo never killed anyone, it was people who claimed to be following it that did. It's like saying that Christianity is evil because the KKK follows the religion.
>Kuntala still face "oppression"
Did you totally missed that they aren't? Mask is acting like a tumblrite, thinking he's being oppressed when he actually can't let go of the conflicts of the past.
>Venusians are still decaying
Refer to the previous point of "this is why Aida is travelling between Earth and the Venus Globe"
>Oh so Bellri and Aida are apart, just like the previous status-quo before episode 1!
Oh yeah, totally forgot that they knew they were bother and sister since episode 1, and that in the last episode Bellri still wants to fuck Aida. Sorry, my bad.

>>13544837
>They know the batteries are human tech that's been rigged to explode if tampered with
Yes, and that's why they worship the elevator that brings said energy, because if they get mad they won't bring it anymore.

>>13544848
>tendies
/r9k/ pls

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>>13544836
We need something like this but for IBO.

>>13544828

Eureka 7 is the first example to leap to mind and I have no doubt not the first to do so by a long way. Let's keep in mind that Okada is working in anime about 17 years now, while Tomino was working in anime about 16 years when he made 0079 - and he chose to detail a good chunk of 0079's exposition in a narration straight out the gate. While a very simple and efficient method of doing so it's also easy to see as being rather cheap, since it doesn't even attempt to place it within the narrative proper. It worked for 0079 in my opinion, but then, I don't have a problem with IBO's exposition on the whole either.

The point is that Okada isn't doing anything Tomino hasn't done himself before and a lot at that. The only reason he got away with so much in G-Reco is because he's credited as the creator as the franchise so his name still holds a lot of power. He had the personal sway to get away with a lot more than Okada can, because Banrise will be a lot more observant and meddling with new hire (to the franchise) like her than they would with someone like Tomino who can feel free to walk away and not really give a fuck if they give him trouble.

And even Tomino admits that (a) the show really could have benefited from more episodes since he wanted more but didn't ask for them due to health concerns and (b) that he'd only rate it...what was it, 20/100 or something? I've no idea how that rates on his personal scale compared to other shows (which he no doubt rates all shows pretty low numerically on), but it shows he thinks the show has faults too.

>>13544848
I'm eating halal minced beef meat.

>>13544853
>everything is more or less the same, but they're working on it
This is one weak ass rebuttal.

Some guy once said you should start the story shortly before the most important, game changing thing happens in Act 1.

G-Reco never even gets to it.
It feels like the prologue to a much better story.
Maybe that's why Old Fart is making the movies.

>>13544885
>everything is more or less the same, but they're working on it
Way to miss everything I said in my post. I'd say you don't even have a rebuttal.

G-Reco - made for the discerning anime watcher
IBO - made for otaku who read harem visual novels

>>13544891
I'd say that you can take your rebuttal, turn it sideways and stick it where the sun don't shine.

I could go over every stupid point you made with a counter argument, but at the bottom line G-Reco ended in a big ol' SO WHAT?

There's a weird sense of things just sorta working out through luck and contrivance and barely anybody having evolved much.
And before you give me that shit like "The conflict should feel pointless! That's the point!", consider that I'm talking about the story as a whole.

I'll leave you with the last lines from "Burn after reading", a movie about accomplishing nothing at all, but one that still feels like the story had a point.
>CIA Superior: What did we learn, Palmer?
>CIA Officer: I don't know, sir.
>CIA Superior: I don't fuckin' know either. I guess we learned not to do it again.
>CIA Officer: Yes, sir.
>CIA Superior: I'm fucked if I know what we did.
>CIA Officer: Yes, sir, it's, uh, hard to say
>CIA Superior: Jesus Fucking Christ.

>>13544917
>I could go over every stupid point you made with a counter argument, but at the bottom line G-Reco ended in a big ol' SO WHAT?
Then why don't you do it? Oh that's right, you don't want to because you can't, and that's why you resort to insults. That's all you guys do, just say shit about the show and when someone actually tries to discuss with you, you throw a fit and fling shit again.

But by all means, prove me wrong anytime you want. Just don't resort to calling me names.

>>13544910
>who read reverse harem visual novels
ftfy

>>13544936

You've spent the whole thread and countless other threads calling anyone who doesn't like G-Reco a retard who didn't watch it. Fuck you.

>>13544936
>Just don't resort to calling me names.
Or else what?
You're going to materialize in front of me and use your ranger training on me?

You're beginning to sound like a real crybaby.

Plus why would I further my point. You haven't even accurately made a counterargument in the first place.

>>13544951
And now you're accusing me of things you can't even prove? Great, just great.

I'm still waiting for a proper counter argument.

>>13544961
>Or else what?
Or else you just prove you don't have any counter arguments. Just that.

>Plus why would I further my point. You haven't even accurately made a counterargument in the first place.
If my counter argument isn't accurate, then prove it. Go ahead. I'm waiting.

>>13544962
>>13544968
Keep waiting.

We're done with you.

>>13545033
So you admit you don't have any counter arguments? Good, then next time try not to shitpost so much.

>>13545033
>We're done with you
I'm someone who actually likes G-Reco, piping in even though I hate these discussions because shitposting ruins everything, no.
Fuck you.
You don't speak for me, or us. You speak for yourself, and only yourself.
Fuck.
Off.

>>13545049

You let faggots speak for you, though. You let faggots shitpost in your name and derail threads. Fuck YOU.

>>13544910
Prole, the discerning anime viewer, doesn't merely watch, they experience.

Furthermore, IS II is the only show in recent decades to be worthy of such praise.

No true /m/an could even comprehend stating otherwise.

>>13544522
Shit animation, strong design and storyboarding

>>13545054
No, and I understand your frustration, but there's nothing I can do. They won't stop, and if I try to enter into the conversation they'll just do the whole "found the retard" thing to discredit my input.

I'm sorry, I try. But I can't, I can't moderate every thread trying to argue for reason, I'm only one guy. I enter the threads every now and then reminding everyone that the thread is nothing but shitposters, but no one listens.

I just want people to know that normal fans actually exist, and we don't like shitters like these and fuckers like Snapcancer ruining /m/ either.

>>13545090
>I can't moderate
Cause you're not a mod. Stop trying to be.

Snapshit should be permabanned though.

Also, there are a few non-shitposts in this thread.

>>13544666
But I'm watching post-Turn A Gundam

>>13544671
Me too desu senpaiily, good idea TBQH.

>>13544041
I like the mecha design a lot. I'm loving that Gundam that looks like a Medieval knight with the jousting lance. I can't wait until it appears.

G Reco was a fun series with great animation but the mecha side wasn't impressive. I'm just tired of beam spam.

>>13544853
>President Zuccini is probably dead, so, no.
The not-european leaders aren't.
>SU-cordism was never a problem.
It was and it wasn't. Was, because the battery distribution is directly linked to SU-Cordism and at the same time wasn't because it was a weak-ass plot device religion which nobody ever followed.
>And this is why Aida is travelling between Earth and the Venus Globe.
So Aida is STILL trying to solve that issue, just like Episode 1.
>The Taboo never killed anyone, it was people who claimed to be following it that did.
The taboo is what allowed mr, villain to fan the flames of war.
>Did you totally missed that they aren't?
Holy shit, a billion g-rectards claim that they DO face oppression, and now comes another one who says they didn't. I honestly do not know who to believe anymore.
>Refer to the previous point of "this is why Aida is travelling between Earth and the Venus Globe"
What? Aida doesn't have anything to do with that.
>Oh yeah, totally forgot that they knew they were bother and sister since episode 1, and that in the last episode Bellri still wants to fuck Aida. Sorry, my bad.
Doesn't matter. They were apart in the beginning, and they are apart again now.

>>13545185
Yeah, if IBO has done anything right so far, it's the designs.

Barbs is stupid sexy.
I did really enjoy G-Reco's grunt suits, I think I might like them more than the Grazes, but oh well.

I'm finding the show itself a little boring, but it's not too tedious to drop.

>>13545272
Yeah and to be honest I've sat through far worse toy commercials than either Greco or ibo just because I liked the designs.

>>13545185
>>13545272
Here's your reply

>>13545305
Thank you, but I already got one.

>>13545252
>what's that guys? You can't be tired of shitposting already can you? I could keep this up all day. Come on! Weren't we having fun? Shitpost with me guys please

>>13545252
>The not-european leaders aren't.
We've got no evidence the european leaders were pushing the war, only on Ameria's part.
>Was, because the battery distribution is directly linked to SU-Cordism
And SU-Cordism is just a religion. I don't think that counts as bad thing. They even give free energy to everyone that follows them.
>and at the same time wasn't because it was a weak-ass plot device religion which nobody ever followed.
People did follow it, that's why the Reconguista plan was able to happen, because people on earth never tried to do astronomical searching.
Remember, the only one who knew they were coming was Cumpa, and he was from Venus Globe.
>So Aida is STILL trying to solve that issue, just like Episode 1.
Not by pirating, but by being an ambassador between the earth and Venus Globe, which are probably going to reach some fucking results since the warmongers are dead. That's a lot more different than in episode 1.
>The taboo is what allowed mr, villain to fan the flames of war.
In a sense yes, but following the taboo is what allowed people to survive all this time. It's people like Cumpa or the spacenoids who took advantage of it.
>Holy shit, a billion g-rectards claim that they DO face oppression, and now comes another one who says they didn't. I honestly do not know who to believe anymore.
They FACED oppression. Kuntala are still a thing in RC but they aren't what they used to be. Also I've seen a lot of people backing up the fact that Mask was just being a tumblrite shouting "MUH OPRESSION" as an excuse for not being able to let go of his hatred.
>What? Aida doesn't have anything to do with that.
Yes she has, because one of the things that the Venus Globe gains from this relation is that they can return pacifically to Earth, something Aida can arrange.
>Doesn't matter. They were apart in the beginning, and they are apart again now.
So I give you proof that things have changed and you just dismiss it? Great.

>>13545312
You were bitching earlier that people weren't replying to all your retarded arguments properly.

Now someone threw you a bone.
Be happy.

>>13545342
That's not me, I just responded to everything.

>>13545272
I liked the land-mecha a lot. I hope we see them again ;_;

>>13544041
Does Fafner contain lots of exposition sequences?

>>13545662

About equal to the average Gundam show like G-Reco and IBO in my opinion.

>>13544674
>He also never specifically mentions G-Reco in his tweets and says he finds IBO somewhat uninteresting, albeit professionally made, which technically it is, since it's made by a professional company.
But what does he say in the following tweet?

>>13545662
Sequences? Not really, but Dead Aggressor does have a fair bit of expository content, even if it's rather disjointed due to the-tying-it-alltogether-bit not coming until about 11 or 12 episodes in. So you get this weird look at the world, and you stumble through confused, until one guy finally fills in the gaps. It's a little aggravating that they take so long to get to that spot, but there's plenty going on to occupy your curiosity, and after several rewatches it actually feels like the best spot, since by that point you actually have more familiarity with the characters who populate the world.

Exodus actually does have a fair bit of exposition, and I actually think you could watch the show cold, you just likely won't pick up on it because it's presented mostly as jargon mentioned in passing. The show really expects that you've seen the preceding material.

That said, I'd never recommend watching Exodus without the stuff ahead of it.

Anyways, this isn't really a question for this thread, so polite sage for off-topic.

>>13544487
G-Reco was complete shit, you fucking delusional apologist.

>>13544428
Go back to Facebook you memelord.

>>13547486
Bumping a dying festering shitpile of a thread like this one
Nice one anon
It's almost like you enjoy doing this

>>13544286
You ever get tired of posting this?

>>13544041
G Reco was definitively going for the cartoony toy selling look while this is a lot more gritty and the designs stand on their own. There's nothing wrong with either of those. It's just a matter of taste.

>>13545335
>We've got no evidence the european leaders were pushing the war, only on Ameria's part.
You've also got no evidence that Aida is still trying to solve the energy crisis, but you fanwank that theory because she's onboard the Crescent ship, which could mean any number of things.... including ramming people to death because the show was ending in 1 minute.
>And SU-Cordism is just a religion. I don't think that counts as bad thing.
Neither am I, but it was part of the previous status-quo and it still is.
>People did follow it
Conveniently up until the show started.
>Not by pirating, but by being an ambassador between the earth and Venus Globe
There's still an "energy crisis" so nothing has changed yet.
>It's people like Cumpa or the spacenoids who took advantage of it.
And since the taboo is still in effect it's possible that others will also try to take advantage of it in the future.
>They FACED oppression.
So what about that kick in episode 1? Was that not an example of systematic oppression?
>because one of the things that the Venus Globe gains from this relation is that they can return pacifically to Earth
Which hasn't happened yet.
>So I give you proof that things have changed and you just dismiss it? Great.
The end result is what matters. And in the end, they are apart again.

>>13548494
Do IBOfags ever stop saying it has good animation and battles?

>>13548568
>saying it has good animation
I don't think anyone ever called IBO's animation good.
Battles, yes.
Animation, definitely no.

>>13548568
>greco
>good battles
>and the G-self wins again by pulling out of its ass some new OP power while everyone else was useless

>>13548521
Lets be honest though every design in IBO is based around the the frame arms/ armour swapping toy gimmick, g reco just had pointless packs made to sell kits which ironically never got kits.
The visual appearance of the ms designs in both is based around the style of the show and its setting. g reco is more a more colourful and stylised in general and so are the suits. g tekketsu has a sort of grittier, no frills look and so do the suits

greco is shit

>>13548588
IBO is shit

Post yfw Thunderbolt gets an MG before IBO or Reco

>>13548593
greco is shit

>>13548596
IBO is shit

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>>13548582
>pulling out of its ass some new OP power while everyone else was useless

That was kind of the point? Most war machines in that era were made to fight war not to keep their children safe or stop it. G-Self was inherently different from other machines. Why would the big three spend money on an ejection plane? You think they care that much about a soldiers life? Remember Pina Colada gave out the blueprints for people to go to war he didn't care if people died.

>>13548604
kill yourself snapfit-kun
also i like IBO and greco
so fuck you and fuck this thread

>>13548604
Avatarfagging is against the rules.

>>13548614
Good for you? The only people trying to create some sort of 'us vs them' mentality are the people who don't like G-Reco.

>>13548543
>You've also got no evidence that Aida is still trying to solve the energy crisis,
Except that was her goal all along. It's not fanwank, it's called simple logic.
>but it was part of the previous status-quo and it still is.
So you expect a religion to change/be eliminated by the course of a couple months? You might as well say Earth is still in one piece, and that it's also part of the previous status-quo.
>Conveniently up until the show started.
Or, you know, when they battling in Sanc Port? Remember Bellri fliping his shit because people were breaking the taboo?
>There's still an "energy crisis" so nothing has changed yet.
The ending makes it clear that Venus Globe and Earth are having peace relations, so the only outcome out of this is that venusians will come to earth and Earth will get the technology from Venus Globe, including Photon Batteries. This wasn't happening in episode 1, so it does prove that things have changed.
>And since the taboo is still in effect it's possible that others will also try to take advantage of it in the future.
Congratulations, you found Tomino's message! It's literally "hey kids, adults failed to achive peace YET AGAIN, so I'll trust you'll do a better job than them". It's not like Aida will play a small role in the future, and people won't forget this conflict easily. Of course that in the long run, war will still return, but this is something unavoidable. It might happen 500 years later though.
>So what about that kick in episode 1? Was that not an example of systematic oppression?
That's like saying racism in Texas is a sign that black people are still being oppressed in the US. Just take a look at the Megafauna crew: none of them ever brings the Kuntala thing to Noredo.
>Which hasn't happened yet.
I'm starting to think you just wanted a "and they magically solved all their problems and lived happily ever after" ending. Which this isn't. The things that changed will lead to a better future, not instantly.

>>13548618
theyre looking for a reaction you absolute retard. they want your your reaction. these things only continue because people like you take the bait
and then get we get shiposting about how anyone with even a vague interest in g reco is a complete retard with half a brain because of your posting

>>13548543
>The end result is what matters. And in the end, they are apart again.
So, when you get a girlfriend, marry her, divorce her, and you get separated, are things still the same as when you didn't even knew her?

>>13548618
I don't care much for IBO, nor did I have a huge dislike or like for Reco.

You're just an avatarfagging homosexual.

I mean I know it's 2015 and all, but you don't need to announce how much cock you suck on a daily basis. We already know.

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>>13548637
I'm not 'reacting' to a post. I'm replying to one. I think it was a valid misunderstanding as to why the G-Self was such a fantastic machine. The industrial complexes didn't care enough about the safety of the pilots to design even an eject system. This was seen on G-IT machines but it wasn't carried down to Earth. The big powers want their soldiers to fight and not to flee.

>>13548653
Avatarfagging is against the rules.

>>13548653
>think it was a valid misunderstanding as to why the G-Self was such a fantastic machine.
But there's no valid excuse for avatarfagging because you read the rules.

>>13548604
>That was kind of the point?
The point was to have shitty battles?

Sasuga g-rectumfags this is how you defend your beloved show.

>>13548639
>are things still the same as when you didn't even knew her?
Yeah, 'cause you went back to bachelorhood.

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G-Reco has CG by the same people that worked on A.Z.

Fucking kek.

>>13548723
So nothing has changed for you or for her? Do you feel the same as before? No, so things have indeed changed, even if you end up apart again.

>>13548736
Good thing Tomino knew how to use CG animation.

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>>13548736
what is the MEGAFAUNA?

>>13548777
Not handdrawn.
>>13548756
>defending CG

And it looks like crap in IBO too.

>>13548811
>hurr durr CG is bad bring back 2D hurrr
Autism-kun please go.

>>13548604

If something like the G-Self was so much better at fighting a war though then why didn't all the sides use something like that to fight it instead of the ones that were designed to "fight a war not to keep their children safe or stop it". Which might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen on this board by the way.

>>13548653

> The industrial complexes didn't care enough about the safety of the pilots to design even an eject system

The Amerian suits almost all have ejection suits and did from the start. That's what the ball in center of Grimoire, Jahannan and so on are. And the fact that at least one faction sports a high number of suits with a built in ejection system already puts it ahead of the pack of every other Gundam for pilot safety. The only units that typically have them in other series are high value prototypes like the RX-78-2, Nu and Sazabi.

So if the point was that the major world powers didn't care about pilot safety then the show did a piss poor job of showing it because it showed a higher concern for it than any other show in the franchise.

>>13549196
>If something like the G-Self was so much better at fighting a war though then why didn't all the sides use something like that to fight it instead of the ones that were designed to "fight a war not to keep their children safe or stop it". Which might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen on this board by the way.

Gee idk because they didn't have the blue prints? That might be the dumbest monologue I've ever seen on this board by the way.

>>13549196
>The Amerian suits almost all have ejection suits and did from the start. That's what the ball in center of Grimoire, Jahannan and so on are.

That would imply that no one ejected. Actually I think the moon suits had ejection systems. I might be wrong here.

>>13544917
>The conflict should feel pointless! That's the point!
yeap, exactly why i think reco was very pointless. nobody was fighting cause they were oppressed and there was no real big bad. but over batteries and for the spacenoids it was immigration but was anyone really denying spacenoids entry into earth?

>>13549320

Yes.

>>13549196
>If something like the G-Self was so much better at fighting a war though then why didn't all the sides use something like that to fight it instead of the ones that were designed to "fight a war not to keep their children safe or stop it".

Honestly without the perfect pack the G-Self wasn't that fantastic. The Kabakali was probably more than a match for the G-Self with flight pack (or space pack for that matter). Actually, the Kabakali also has the ability to equip different packs, so if the G-IT lab weren't just a bunch of hooligans who stole a ship they could have developed a perfect pack for the Kabakali

>>13544403
they also couldnt balance their budget worth shit leading to the final episodes being a complete mess in terms of art, the final episode had to pretty much be remade

>>13544513
Fuck off i love 079 but its animation is awful even for its time

>>13544664
I dont care thta this is bait, putting G-reco on par with LOTGH makes me wish for ebola to wipe out this world.

>>13544713
>G-reco is for smart and patient intellectuals
>doesn't even know what the fuck strawman means

Jesus christ please stop, theres cool dudes that like G-reco and your giving them a hard time not looking like a cesspool of autism when they really are fine.

Its become a sad age that i cant even go to /m/ anymore to talk about gundam without it trainwrecking into this. At least talking about ibo on /a/ is pretty laid back like these threads used to be before the shills.

>>13549393
>the final episode had to pretty much be remade
Other than a few art differences it was largely the same.

>>13549393
Wrong on both accounts dumbfuck

>>13549393
There was barely any changes in the final episode.

>>13549393
G-Reco looked as good as it did mainly because Tomino could manage a budget.

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>>13549404
>I dont care thta this is bait, putting G-reco on par with LOTGH makes me wish for ebola to wipe out this world.

You are really into your cartoons!

>>13549434
>Other than a few art differences it was largely the same.

That's the bad thing. They never fixed pic related.

>>13549455
>vlc
Please tell me this is bait?

I mean I totally believe that you would be the type of moron to use vlc, but I'm still mildly skeptical with how stilted you pretend to be.

>>13549286

> Gee idk because they didn't have the blue prints

They did though. They even contemplated mass producing the G-Self but decided on another suit instead. The real difference of course was the back packs, which were also widely distributed blue prints apparently since Ameria manufactured them despite not even having the G-Self at the time.

The issue I took with your sentence was that it implied there was a difference between a weapon meant to fight a war and one meant to end it. Which there really isn't, not even a nuke. And that some weapons are designed to keep children safe. Which is just fucking idiotic.

> That would imply that no one ejected

What?

> Actually I think the moon suits had ejection systems. I might be wrong here

The WaDoms had an ejectable head, which could be ejected if it was damaged, but the body contained the cockpit. The SUMOs had a cockpit similar to the Turn-A, but they were very limited in production. I think those were the only two. It's still not nearly as prolific as Amerian suits in G-Reco.

>>13549471
>implying snapfag even understood the details of the show

>>13549471
>> That would imply that no one ejected
>What?

No one ejected from Amerian suits. In the entire series.

>They did though. They even contemplated mass producing the G-Self but decided on another suit instead.

Pretty sure only the Rayhuntons had those.

>The issue I took with your sentence was that it implied there was a difference between a weapon meant to fight a war and one meant to end it. Which there really isn't, not even a nuke. And that some weapons are designed to keep children safe. Which is just fucking idiotic.

Pretty sure the G-Self acted to protect Bellri and Aida on several occasions. Don't know what the purpose of your monologue is.

>>13549320
>yeap, exactly why i think reco was very pointless
It is not pointless. It meant to show to children demographic that war is bad and you should not start war just because you love to play vidya game about war and never experiencing the horror itself.
What's funny is how people love to see dark edgy gritty war story.

>>13549489

> No one ejected from Amerian suits. In the entire series.

So what? They still had ejection systems regardless.

> Pretty sure only the Rayhuntons had those

Well then you're pretty sure you're wrong, because Rockpie or someone outright says it during the show that Towasanga was considering mass producing the G-Self and didn't because they figured another suit (whatever one he was in at the time I think) was better in their eyes.

> Pretty sure the G-Self acted to protect Bellri and Aida on several occasions

It's certainly implied. I don't think it's ever followed up on though.

> Don't know what the purpose of your monologue is.

What exactly is "a weapon that keeps children safe"? What's the difference between a weapon meant to fight a war and one meant to end one? What examples are in the show?

>>13549843
I am not that snapfit guy but somehow you seems can't into context well.
>the difference between a weapon meant to fight a war and one meant to end one
>one meant to end one
It means this weapon is stronger than a weapon to fight war or a weapon that keeps children safe.
Like how Turn A with its MLB can ends war easier than using a bunch of GM.

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God it feels great knowing some anons share the same sentiment that IBO's animation is really bad with me. I swear I don't think I've seen the Barbatos not be QUALITY once in battle thus far (aside from closeups). Between the shit animation and terrible translations by dikesukai I've lost almost all hope for the series.Still has the best ending song so far though imo

Is there any real explanation for the shit animation and retarded fight choreography? Like is this some new studio, are they underbudget, or are they just really incompetent?

To all this G-Reco fags who derailed this threads:

Defending it on any merit involving its writing is fucking retarded (i.e you just are too stupid to get it). Remember Tomino has always said it's a kids show and was written with CHILDREN in mind.

Also G-Reco shitposters, we've read for a fucking million threads now your criticism of the show. It's valid like all shit opinions and we fucking get it, just because someone thinks it's animation is better doesn't give you justification for derailing every fucking thread. The G-Reco-iz-shit-Xb meme got old, stop beating a dead horse.

/m/ needs janitors and mods so fucking badly.

>>13550015

The ones shitposting are faggots like Snapshit who act obnoxious as fuck "defending" it to stir shit up. How the fuck is legitimate criticism of G-Reco, which you yourself acknowledge as legitimate, "shitposting?" Do you even know what shitposting is?

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>>13550023
>you yourself acknowledge as legitimate
>It's valid
>Like all shit opinions
I never said it was legitimate. But that's expected from both sides who shit on G-Reco and praise it, you guys don't even fucking read posts. If any thread mentions G-Reco both sides fucking pounce onto the thread and derail it. THATS shitposting. Every anon who participates in this vile shit is shitposting. HELL even I am shitposting just giving you retards time of day.

>>13550053

So what you're saying is that G-Reco is cancerous.

>>13550053
>Every anon who participates in this vile shit is shitposting. HELL even I am shitposting just giving you retards time of day.
BAN US ALL MODS. EVERYONE IN THE THREAD
I actually think this a good idea for the sake of /m/. sacrifice the few for the many

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>>13550072
Nope friendo, the cancer is anons like you who are ruining /m/. I look forward to the day we get mods who ban all you fuckers.

>>13550101

No faggot, G-Reco is the cancer since G-Reco faggots keep going into other threads and as soon as it's brought up everything spirals into shit.

It's pretty obvious that this is a uniquely G-Reco problem.

>>13550015
>Remember Tomino has always said it's a kids show and was written with CHILDREN in mind
The problem is that nips children actually understand it but western adults didn't get it and shit on Tomino instead. The reason why they didn't get it is something as simple as lack of attention but when being told so they throw a bitch just like >>13550023.

>>13550111
Just like how you can't understand G-Reco, you seems didn't understand the source of the problem. The problem is your kind of people.

Reminder that G-Reco is a retard filter. Anyone who doesn't understand it automatically win the "spot the retard game"

>>13550127
i know its you snapfit-kun
i even before you started using a trip i could always tell who you were

>>13550135
>Reminder that G-Reco is a retard filter.

It most certainly is, but not quite in the way you think it is.

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>>13550111
>Trips wasted on a shitpost.
G-Reco is just a japanese childrens cartoon it's caustic autists like you ruining everything.

>>13550120
Oh and you too fucker. That's your own opinion and you should express it when it's appropriate, but as I said before just bringing it up every fucking mentioning of G-Reco is killing /m/. There was a time where /m/ didn't need mods, anons could just use positive reinforcement to keep the boards healthy, too many oldfags gone and newfags incoming. No one knows how to properly post anymore.

>>13550127
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>>13550143
I honestly can't even tell if this is intentional subversion or not.

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this fucking thread man

>>13550101
>Posting Unishit
At least we can all agree it's worse than either series so far.
>>13550152
>I honestly can't even tell if this is intentional subversion or not.
wew me either

wew

The greatest lie /m/ ever told was trying to convince everyone G-Reco was actually good

>>13550539
>p-please reply to me /m/, someone
why are you so tsundere for greco anon?
you keep bumping dying threads or derailing completely unrelated threads with that shit

>>13549878

That only works if the enemy can't hold out for very long, doesn't have the same technology or is unwilling to use it. Which is not often the case in reality and certainly wasn't the case in G-Reco at any point. Nothing the G-Self had gave that kind of decisive advantage. No, not even the photon missiles, which are good for clearing groups but aren't going to instantly win a win for you. If the enemy has even one of the same weapons you're using the end the war, then the chances are they're going to use it if you do and that'll just be fighting, not ending.

Also, any weapon that can keep a child safe is basically just a weapon. The phrase is just plain odd to use.

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>>13544437
>Yoshida
>having any talent

>>13544495
>A bad looking show with a good story is worth more than a good looking one with a crap story.
>plotfags

>>13549843
>So what? They still had ejection systems regardless.

Prove it. It's never mentioned or used.

>Well then you're pretty sure you're wrong, because Rockpie or someone outright says it during the show that Towasanga was considering mass producing the G-Self and didn't because they figured another suit (whatever one he was in at the time I think) was better in their eyes.

Probably because they had cheaper ideas. Doesn't mean they had blue prints for the G-Self either. Remember the Elf Bullock? It was mass produced off the Elf Bull.

>What exactly is "a weapon that keeps children safe"

The G-Self. The G-Self acts on its own to protect Bellri AND Aida. No surprise considering it was built by their parents FOR them.

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>>13551219
baka desu senpai

>>13544041
>IBO as a more professional work than G Reco

Yeah, IBO is definitely more successful as a product rather than an interesting/fun story

>>13544403
Here's your reply

>>13551404
implying G reco has a interesting/fun story.

>>13551232
バカ外人。。。日本語を勉強したらどうですか。

>>13552417
implying it doesn't

>>13551404
>bumping this thread>>13551232
he actually did it the absolute madman

>>13544664

Making it difficult to follow doesn't make it good.

Too many faction with stupid motivations. In the end Aida and megafauna crew are no different than Lacus and her faction.

>>13552575
>Too many faction with stupid motivations.
4 factions
Ameria- wants to break photon battery monopoly
Towasunga/Venus globe - They all want to get back to earth. The reconguista. It's the name of the show.
Capital- is being manipulated by a guy who wants everyone fighting in the first place

>>13552471
>バカ外人。。。日本語を勉強したらどうですか。
>Idiot foreigner. . . Why do not you studying Japanese.

Kek.

>>13551404
>Believeing a meme made by shitposter
>Can't even read japanese
What a filthy gaijin.

>>13552575
>Simple motivation as mentioned by >>13552591
>This shows is stupid because it is difficult to follow
Gee, which one is the stupid one? Is it you or the show?

>>13552591
>4 factions
Just like Zeta Gundam and 00 yet nobody complains about there being too many fractions with stupid motivations

>>13553026
>yet nobody complains about there being too many fractions with stupid motivations
First day on /m/?

>>13544286
Considering he's fellating his own work and make those god awful thrones, no you shouldn't.

>>13549393
There was barely any changes to the final episode, a few frames of the damaged perfect pack, a shot of Cumpa's dead body and the regular lighting and effect changes that persist throughout the entire BD.

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>>13553906
>It's a literal nobody and he deleted the tweets.
So OP is a faggot once again?

>>13553924
Kill yourself.

>>13553932
what happened here?

>>13553934
Snapfag posted a post he'd already made 18 hours ago >>13551218 Notice that it's got no other replies other than this one.
Whether he deleted it himself because he's retarded, or a mod/jani did it, he still reposted--probably because he was buttmad he didn't get a response last time it--he should kill himself.

>>13553961
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You got lost discussing against snapkun and then you spin your words along the way.

>>13556922
pls leave snapfit-kunt

>>13556981
>Underage retard who not only can't comprehend G-Reco but also act like some loser just because he lost in internet discussion, all of this because he can't pay a fucking attention.
I guess G-Reco really works wonder as a retard filter.

>>13557030
wow it really was you
fucking hell
also guess what? i liked g reco you shitstain

>>13556922
suck my dick
http://desustorage.org/m/thread/13544041/#13553924

>>13544487
And that would also imply that an artist who draws retarded-looking characters with gaping mouths has any talent at all.

>thread was about to die
>snapfit-kun comes back to rekindle the fire under his shitpostpot

>>13557312
Hate it when that happens