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It's best Schwanken's birthday. Have you gotten her anything special?
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>>13535182
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will sm have textile free german swimming pools?
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>>13535317

You tell me.
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>still no update
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Backerkit soon right?
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>>13535599
they finished to set it yesterday, so we don't have much time to wait
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>>13535191

Beatrix looks so much more attractive with a bust size that actually matches her frame and build.
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>>13535191

>Have you gotten her anything special?

Yeah, I got something special for her.
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>>13535191
>Hair censorship
Into the trash this artist goes
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>>13535317
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>>13535743

Annet giving Inghild pointers about how you go about pleasing men with your tits. The irony is almost palpable.
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>>13535743
What's with Sailor Moon and her dead on the inside stare?
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>>13535820

Dead on the inside, dead on the outside.
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>>13535242
Why is Saber in this game?
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Why is she stating the blindingly obvious? The ongoing extended campaign against the BETA was forced on them, not desired, and the keys to their "swift victory" i.e. the Alternative Plans are still WIP. This is supposed to be the poetic wisdom of the Super Shogun?
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>>13536135
>watching the TE anime
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>>13536150
>watching anime*
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>>13536183
>watching
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>>13536135
so they had the design of the launcher thing since 1999?
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>>13536265
>Type 99
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>>13535743
>east germans being prudes in sauna

Oh come on germans had nudist beaches all over the place and porn culture was more liberated in DDR than BRD.
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>>13536135
is Kyoto still a smoking ruin by the time Takeru shows up in the Altverse?
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>>13536150
I thought I should have a baseline to compare Schwarzesmarken's anime to when it shows up.

Why wasn't Yui using her cockpit seat powered exoskeleton?
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>>13536348
Frame too bent.
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>>13536348
TE-Ani sets a really low bar to clear for BlackMarks.
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>>13536280

Well, compared to other Warsaw Pact nations, pornography/nudie posters/etc. were all more common in the East German and Czechoslovakian forces than in Poland or the USSR.

Also, sock tits.
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Is Koto planning to release any new plamo for the anime aside the three already announced for early 2016?
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>>13536429
Why the hell would we know

The MiG-23 variant from the later part will happen though.
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>>13536429
>non scale Berkut never
fuck this planet
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>>13536209
>
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>>13536507
Paint a Terminator black and tape knives to its ankles and you're almost there.
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Backerkit surveys still haven't been sent, right?
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>>13536627
Yes.
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>>13536627
>>13536637
why so sad takeru?
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>>13536637
Profound sadness
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>>13536627
>>13536637
Who is this fuccboi?
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>>13536678
U wot m8 ?
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>>13536684
looks like some nigger
looks pretty young too
thought most men died by the time of muvluv altnernative
also needs to find a barber
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>>13536690

>>13536644
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>>13536694
nah that can't be it. takeru looked pretty normal. no idea who this guy is supposed to be but sheesh does he look like an autist
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>>13536699
You are obviously either trolling, or never heard about TDA and what happen to Takeru after Unlimited route(s).

Whichever is bad.
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>>13536713
Not as bad as that artwork/design
In fact the entire series looks like K-on these days
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>>13536716

What the fuck are smoking?
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>>13536737
This series was a mistake after alternative
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>>13536713
Takeru in TDA was nothing like the heroic Takeru of Alt though. He became a simple killing machine with no brain and totally lost his rebel side and charisma ( Despite having a good looking uniform and piloting a freaking Takerumikazuchi )
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>>13536788

>He became a simple killing machine with no brain and totally lost his rebel side and charisma

Losing almost everyone you've ever loved and being made into the plaything of an opportunist tends to do that to you, I'd imagine.
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>>13536788
>>13536798
I'd like to see how that ended up happening
that scene where he completely destroys those eurofaggots is priceless
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>>13536923
>>13536798
>>13536788
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>>13536798
Is it implied his friends actually die ?

Except for Meiya ( And even as much as I dislike this twist ), I don't remember having heard of anyone from squad 207 ( And I can't believe they did not talk about them to let people think that his love went aboard the ships, else Meiya would not be here as well ).

Unless the entire squad was supposed to participate in Operation Iceberg, which would explain why Takeru is unstable as he promised himself to protect everyone left behind with his life ( Which would be a critical fail then ).
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>>13536980

Well, we haven't heard from them, but then again, it hardly seems as though they're alive and kicking at this point, except for Marimo and Meiya.
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>>13536980
we don't know
if anything I bet they got killed during operation babylon and Meiya had to leave due to politics
Ikaruga saw the diamond in rough he was and took him under his wing
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>>13537019
>>13537027
Guess he will just understand how Ikaruga is evil when he will see Meiya again then. Even if he should already have with Marimo, considering she was someone he should have protected with his life to begin with, even if she got affected somewhere else.
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>>13536348
I assumed the power armors were only included in the newer cockpit blocks.
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Summer 2016 is going to be glorious.
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>still no update
wat the fuck
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>>13535191
>Jet black hair
>Pale ghost skin

She looks like a Jew
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>>13537579
Got your money already
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>>13537584

>her family welcomed the Soviet overlords with open arms
>were rewarded handsomely for their collaboration
>according to the Chinese spoilers, her family virtually controls the Economic Committee of the People's Assembly
>her father could see the writing on the wall as far as the Soviet economy was concerned
>described as decidedly not Aryan in features when she was being contrasted to blonde/blue-eyed Irisdina

Gee, you don't think. Doesn't change the fact that she is canonically the hottest and best girl in SM.
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Well fuck me. Jürgen and Beatrix actually did it.
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>>13537043
I'm still expecting a TDA version of the wedding run, but with Takeru being orbital dropped by Takahashi. Busting in, taking Meiya, and running off with her while Ikaruga just smiles.
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>>13537746
Sexu?

Hard and passionate? Or slow and tender?
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>>13537746

So you're telling me that Beatrix actually puts out when her hubby comes back from the front, while Iris blueballed Theo for the majority of SM? What the fuck? The most the poor Theo ever got for saving Iris's life was a hug while Jurg gets celebratory survival sex. How is this fair!?
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>>13537766
>orbital diving to crash a wedding
sounds crazy awesome
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>>13537746
Is the illustration as far as they took it? God forbid Jürgen did anything irresponsible...
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>>13537795
No sex before marriage for Iris, I think.
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>>13537795

It's why you don't waifu Christfags. They won't get down with it even if a fricken alien induced apocalypse is descending upon them. But what do you expect; one's best girl and one isn't.

>>13537772

Young Beato is kinda skittish and would definitely be more for slow and tender. She'd probably leglock you towards the end and cover you with kisses as she orgasms.

>>13537842

I think they just kissed though, which considering the medium might as well be a full scene of passionate lovemaking.
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>>13537842

How would it be irresponsible? He could die at any moment fighting the BETA and Beato obviously wants it badly.
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>>13537853
I'm relieved (for the moment). As long as they don't cross that line I can keep the bro on his proverbial pedestal.

>>13537875
They ain't even married, that's how. It doesn't matter how much either of them wants it; that sort of thing is reserved exclusively for wedlock, and as both the male and the elder party in the relationship it is ultimately incumbent upon him to do what is responsible.
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>>13537898

Abel won't let them marry. He wants his daughter in the Stasi. Is that fair?
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>>13537898

God, you're almost as bad as Irisdina with this sanctity of marriage stuff.
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>>13537935
>we'll have the next update tonight (Japan time) hopefully!
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>>13538102

I think you messed your link up.
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>>13538102
https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/668625325559971840
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>>13536980
>>13537019
>>13537043
One of the TDA promo images have Takeru holding some ID tags so there's that.

>>13536944
>2006
>Unlimited
>K̶u̶r̶o̶Shirogane Takeru
>Takeru on the lower right: WTF happened to me...
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>>13537434
Reminder that this scene was from Soldier-kun's perspective.
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>>13537746

Shit man. I used to think her brutal death in SM was a good thing. I couldn't help but to be happy that Beatrix got what she deserved after all the shit she did to Iris. I even thought she got off lightly. But looking at pics like this, I can't really bring myself to hate her anymore. Thinking about how she died no longer brings jubilation but makes me feel all hollow inside. I think of all the characters, I feel for her the most now.
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Um
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>>13538565
>IDOL
what is this, Xenoglossia?
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So yeah I guess it turns out it's not Idar but actually Idol pronounced the slav way

Which makes like a hundred times more sense when you think about it.
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>>13535191
>came here to fap on Beatrix
>no yummy Beatrix art ITT
faggots
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>>13538584

Well, we don't want to spam her like a certain Sumikafag over on /a/. She pretty much already gets posted more than every other Schwaken girl combined, and even a few of the old time favorites. There just isn't a lot of material of her to dig into like the others. Still, new stuff is turning up: >>13537746

The discussion just isn't about her right now, and it doesn't need to be.
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>>13538593
I thought the Mubruv universe didn't have planes.
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>>13538610

That's cause its an altverse pic.
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>>13538579
Why is this a gif?
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>>13538630
Problem?
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>>13537766

>orbital diving to crash a wedding

You mean orbital drifting

Hoping Takeru digs up Meiya's 00-R and finally pilots that thing.
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>>13537766
I kind of want to see that too.
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>>13538613
Sounds interesting. I'd watch Muv-Luv with planes. Actually, I want real-world armor versions of most mecha series and mecha versions of real-world armor series (Girls und Panzer, for example). Is that weird?
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Do any of these cuties get eaten? I don't want to get emotionally attached to giblets.
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>>13539170
Most of them
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>>13539176
Which ones?
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>>13539179
Find out for yourself
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>>13539179
Do you REALLY want to spoil it for yourself?
Just read the novels or read the summaries on it.
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>>13539192
Yes, I don't mind being spoiled. Please spoil me.
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>>13539194
Everyone but Yuuko and Kasumi dies
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>>13537579
Degica is collaborating with Âge. Please don't tell me it should surprise you when things take longer than they have promised earlier.
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>>13539197
Sorry, I was referring to the Schwarzesmarken grils.
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>>13539203
As far as I know only the loli survives
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>>13536788
The grunt Take is just a glorified more durable Shiranui though.
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>>13539215
not quite
it is still far superior to a Shiranui
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>>13539198
>tfw casuals can't into オルタマダー?
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>>13539206

Not eaten per say. Almost every single casualty in the series is at human hands, which kinda makes it worse.

Pham gets mulched by a TSF cannon. All that was left was a pair of legs.

Lise gets a summarily executed against the other 666 wishes by Theo as a show of loyalty to the rebels

Walter and Sylwia are killed when they try to double team Beatrix.

Irisdina gets shot protecting Katia from Axmann.

Beatrix doesn't ever get to redeem herself and gets Theo's CIWS lodged into her stomach.

There's also a lot of cute stasi/loyalist grils who end up dead, like Lise's wingman who gets chopped in half by Annete.
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>>13536980
We know that certain events are more or less "fixed" set-pieces, regardless of timeline, at least without dramatic changes to the timeline (possibly because Alt is the heavy-memory universe and its events influence all others).

For instance, between Unlimited and Alternative we learn that it is Takeru and Meiya's actions during the Volcano arc that prevents Sagiri from launching his coup; in TDA it is revealed that the coup occurs anyway, just delayed at least 2-3 years.

Likewise, in the TDA backstory we learn that the assault on Sadogashima occurs in the Unlimited timeline as well. However, this timeline doesn't have a functioning XB-70b with S00mika at its helm, so you can imagine how much worse that mission goes. This is also the same mission in which Takeru 'proves' himself to Ikaruga, so you can probably put two and two together.

tl;dr: they're all dead, anon.
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>>13539528
Yeah, this is Operation Iceberg, and it is said that Takeru was the sole survivor, so if Squad 207 was entirely involved, they surely are dead.
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>>13539528
>However, this timeline doesn't have a functioning XB-70b with S00mika at its helm
But this timeline does have G-bomb strikes. Or were they not originally planning on using the G-bombs when they hit the Hive?
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>>13539531
>sole survivor
oh boy, guess all that was left of him was a shell
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>>13539607
>>13539531
Well, Meiya is alive at least
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>The next update is happening tonight (Japan time) hopefully! :)

COOL STORY
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>>13539488
Wait... if I'm looking at this right, the smaller the chest the greater their chance at survival?
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>>13539683
In SM, seems right.

In the series in general, Tama proved it to be wrong.

>>13539572
G-Bombs are more or less ineffective to destroy hives unless used from the inside of it, best results coming from the Reactor room to be sure it's destroyed with the rest. So they had to fight their way in, G-Bombs or not.
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>>13539528
>This is also the same mission in which Takeru 'proves' himself to Ikaruga, so you can probably put two and two together.
so Takeru also killed a gorillion BETA there? probably in a Gekishit and failed to save his comrades
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>>13539722
that would be even more impressive, using such a piece of shit and no XM3 at all
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>>13539716
But hitting a Hive with G-bombs makes the rest of the battle more or less easymodo.
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Friendly reminder that 2am is technically still night.
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>Ok... So BackerKit is asking for upfront payment, unfortunately 1% of the campaign is too huge and the credit card company is having issues with the amount. We're gonna have to postpone the update for tomorrow, sorry everyone :(
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>>13537639

So fanwank theory is that Beatrix's parents escaped the Holocaust (as German Jews and/or German Communists, both groups extremely high on the Nazi arrest lists) and managed to recover in the postwar and used their anti-Nazi credentials to rise in the postwar Berlin government.

Eh, it's more interesting than half the historical flavor stories in Muvluv, at least to me.
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>>13539894
How can credit card company even have problem like that?
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>>13539917
TOO MUCH MONEY
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>>13539845
>Killing BETAs outside the hive makes it easy
>Implying there is not a million BETA in the hive to fight in close combat

Sure.
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>>13539939
G-bombs also put a massive dent in the Hive itself and the BETA inside all the way down to the middle strata.
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>>13539943
that still leaves what? 50k of those bastards still alive and ready to fuck your shit up?
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>>13539917
>your face when kouki run away with the money
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>>13539948
Why run when you can just buy another car with that money.
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>>13539722
We don't know when Takeru switches to a F-4 in the Unlimited timeline; it likely happens sometime between the cancellation of Alt IV and when the shuttles depart. Takeru mentions in (episode 3 or 4, I forget) Alternative that he remembers from a prior 'loop' that his Fubuki cocpkit was transferred to a F-4. Since he retained more memories of events that occurred multiple times in different loops/branches, its likely that because he can remember this event, it probably meant that it occurred in all Unlimited timelines.
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>>13539999
nice quads
in any event, that is why it is very likely he had to use the Gekishin in the battles that resulted from Alt V
I bet Ikarauga saw how superb his performance was in such a crappy machine and with him most likely being the sole survivor of a horrible operation, he didn't have to do much to swag Takeru as his pawn
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>>13539722
No xm3
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>>13540147
Damn Son, Shirogane doesn't fool araound.
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>>13540169
you mean Kurogane
>>13536944
>>13538402
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>>13540169
Only thought death can they know true peace.
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Has any girl been raped to death in Muv-Luv?
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>>13540202
Well, technically speaking, Sumika has been. Kind of.
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>>13539913

It'd be funny if this turns out to be true. Hottest German girl in all of Muv-Luv is a kike. I wonder how Iris would react to her best friend being a Jew since she's slightly racist (not as bad as Gretel, but you still see traces of Aryan Master Race occasionally coming out)
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>>13539948
>mfw
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>>13539948
That italian supercar itasha aint gonna buy itself, anon.
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>>13540147
Word of advice to anyone who wants to record stuff from ML. Please record at 60fps, not 30fps.
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>>13540660
>recording sliding sprites at soap opera fps

of all the things in need of prioritizing
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>>13540669
It's not so much the sliding sprites, it's more to do with the muzzle flash in scenes with gunfire. When you record at 30fps, the muzzle flash is either not present, or stays static, because of how the recorded frames line up with the frames where the flash is there or not. So it looks terrible.
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>>13540685
What happens if you try 29 frames?

Just for shits, what happens?
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>>13540227
>she's slightly racist

Explain.
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>>13540689
I don't know, I don't even have the games anymore. Try it yourself, you can record stuff off your screen with Open Broadcaster Software.
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>>13540695

She doesn't very much care for the refugees and she occasionally makes racist jokes. That's about it. Really, most of the SMs are kinda racist. You should see what Gretel and Lise act like when they get wound up.
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>>13536515
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>>13540660
>Hibiki penetrating yuzuka.webm
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What's going on here?
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>>13540781
>She doesn't very much care for the refugees

What's that got to do with race?
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>>13540926
They are mostly jews
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>>13540227
It'd be far more hilarious if Beatrix is a kike since Iris is german christfag who ratted her brother out for race mixing with a filthy jew and still is disgusted seeing her kike mug all the time.
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>>13540986
>>13539913
>>13540227

Does it make me a bad man if I want to stuff that kike with my uncircumcised cock (assuming she really is Jewish).
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>>13537639
>>13537584

If she was Jewish, that'd explain her wavy as fuck hair.
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>>13540974
>correlation = causation fallacy
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Beatrix isn't fucking Jewish. She doesn't follow Kashrut (kosher). She could be of Hebrew descent, but its as likely she isn't.
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Is there any way to get a message to the Schwarzesmarken anime team somehow to beg them to not to go with Funimation for simulcasting in the West?
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>>13541526

What are the alternatives? Crunchyroll?
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>>13541526
?
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>>13541350
Please, below a certain level of religiousness you start to see fewer and fewer fucks given about maintaining a kosher house and life.
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>>13541526
Daisuki maybe?
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>>13541526
No. avex isn't going to give even the slightest bit of a fuck about one probably not even paying opinion when they're trying to get the best deal.

I'd also like to note that despite this supposedly zealous overseas fanbase TE has probably sold like 500 BDs over here.

>>13541603
CR and Commie subs were fucking awful for TE anyways (and you all fucking watched them) so it's not like not being Funi exactly means a quality improvement. Hardsubs are annoying but maybe they'll have switched by then.

That reminds me how funny it is that one out of 25 .ass files on my mediafire got arbitrarily DMCA'd by Section 23

>>13541804
Besides Gundam I don't think there's much on Daisuki that wasn't picked up by the others as well. There's multiple shows on there that Funi rips are still the ones torrented.
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I mean goddamn
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>>13541098
Major question is, would YOU care?

"Bad" is but a relative measurement.

>>13541834
At least, going by the TSF models released, they're not going to cut out much of the fighting material. The major players (F-4, F-5, F-14, MiG-21/-23) are all there.
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>>13541526
I'd rather tell them to not air the anime period
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>>13542436

I'm still kinda wishy washy on the whole thing. I still want to see Iris and glorious Yukarin Beatrix in motion (even with the QUALITY).
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>>13542282

If Beato really turned out to be a Jew, that'd only make me want to fuck her more.
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What
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>>13542917
At least post the entire thing not just the tumbnail.
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>>13542962
But then no one will go to the site
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>>13542962
This artist knows how to save images without saturating them with artifacts; why don't the birthday artists?!
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>>13539948
he deserves it that crazy fucker
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>>13541350
Yeah because every single person calling themselves Jewish follows all the Jewish law statutes.
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>>13541834
Funi's encoders are worse, but then Schwarz is unlikely to be a triumph of high fidelity animation anyway.
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>MLTeam Twitter
>( Backerkit is ) setup already, but their requirement for upfront payment is holding the review process. We're trying to convince them to start reviewing in advance.

Wut ?
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>>13543866
Are you just realising how complicated these things are?
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>>13543868
There is nothing complicated, I just wonder why they are dealing with Backerkit instead of their bank to speed up the thing.

It's their bank that is always blocking the payment, which I don't understand because they could have contacted them yesterday to clear the mess ( Unless their bank is a total shit one )
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>>13543881
wasn't yesteday holiday in japan?
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>>13543930
Oh yeah, it was. My bad then ( Even if they should have had the time to do it today ).
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>>13542962
can't read moonrunes, any possible translation please?
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>>13543942
Learn moonrunes yourself.
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Soon.
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>>13543948
thanks, prick
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>>13543957
You're welcome, faggot.
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Did they got all the money in the end?
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>>13543866
Y'know what? lets do this

Backerkit never
SM never
TE never
TDA never
Forefront NEVER EVER
3D TSF game never
ded kickstarter
ded franchise
ded fanbase
ded threds
ded waifus
ded robots
ded sargeants
ded fagiri
ded WALKEN
ded hope

I actually deleted the pasta when we reached the 900k so I dont remember what else this had and I'm too lazy to check the archives
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>>13543992
>didn't post best deds
Dropped.
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>>13543992
Boy i've missed you
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>>13543992
Close enough. Only thing missing is what >>13544002 said.
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>>13543992
Almost perfect. The only thing missing is what >>13544002 said.
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>>13544054
>>13544058
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Two days left
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>>13544391

How cute to have The Hommusar working hard at debunking the "Oruta madaa da?" meme.
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>>13544080

Sumika, pls. It was a coincidence. Really!
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>>13544494
I need further explanation.
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>>13544611
>Title: Surveillance Job

>Panel 1
>TL Note: kata means kata it's just sfx for keyboard typing

>Panel 2 (The brackets indicate that all is supposed to be in German. "Doitsu net" == "German internet")
>Is it really coming out? wwwww-
>The statement of postponement isn't out yet? wwwwwwww ("enki happyou madaa" which is too much of a coincidence to not be a pointback to the original recurring "Oruta madaa" on the related nippon imageboards prior to Alternative's release)

>Panel 3
>This is self-explanatory.

>Panel 4
>It's really coming out! (Although it's just "honto da yo" which in a more literal sense is "It's true")
>It's coming out properly! (a more literal interpretation of the meaning behind "chanto deru yo" but I'm about to hit the sack over here so anything acceptable goes for describing a product getting out on time)
>all the KATAKATA (furious Hommulux keyboard noises)
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>>13544755
How did these same ALTERNATIVE WHEN memesters feel when Alternative actually came out and took a gigantic shit all over Extra and Unlimited?
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http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j372461590

get in there
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>>13545039
15k yen? fuck me
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>>13545039
She looks a bit shitty. I'm always seeing figs that looks so much better, why did ML never got the same treatment
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>>13545055
that's the starting price dude
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>>13545067
Consider the age, it was made like 10 years ago, back then all figs were shitty.

Get real, nigger, you're not getting another Mana fig until Alternative gets an anime which would be never.
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>>13545323
Kotobukiya could still may release something new
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>>13546347
>possible Beatrix figure
all of my yes
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>>13546359

They already have figs for Gretel, Iris, Katia, and Lise. Would you prefer prequel Beato, or Schwaken Beato?
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>>13546370
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>>13546370
Who the fuck like this bitch?
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>>13546375
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>>13546370
resin kits or what is that?
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>>13546383
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>>13546370
definitely SM Beatrix
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>>13546382

She has her positives. Despite being a racist and all around bitch, she was the only one courageous enough to call out the rebels for executing prisoners, torturing people, and violating all sorts of international war conventions despite everyone else telling her to "STFU or else." She's also a pretty descent GF who doesn't give up on rescuing Martin.

Saying that, in a cast where you have first-rate girls like Beatrix and Irisdina, she just can't compete. She doesn't bring anything interesting to the table. It's why whenever she gets pitted against either of those two in the popularity polls, she gets slapped down hard (like pretty much every other girl, including Katia and Lise amazingly).
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>>13546420

I don't think that garage kit really does her justice.
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>>13546421
>descent

Decent.
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>>13546429
>>13546420
her face looks really off
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>>13546457

Yeah, they're garage kits. They tend to be shit.
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>>13546457
>>13546462
Just like all of the new muv-luv entries.
The original VN trio at least had the excuse of age, but these new illustrations just look bad
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>>13546382
Despite knowing only what's been shown of her in the first couple chapters I think she's just fine in spite of her abrasive disposition. Then again I've observed on more than one occasion that I tend to have a relatively high tolerance for characters other people find insufferable, so take that for what you will.
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>>13546484

What are you talking about? SM's art has pretty much been the high mark of the series, and the VN CGs look terrific.
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>>13546500
If you actually think these proportions and perspective looks good you seriously need to get your eyes checked. The original VNs had some issues with 9/10 of the body being legs but this is about just as fucked up
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>>13546505

Carnelian's hit or miss. I wouldn't say that that's too bad, certainly not her worse. I like the new artist's proportions way better though.
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>>13546523
I dunno man, these flat and generic animu faces that look like they come from some shitty adaption don't rub me the right way.
Not saying the designs/illustrations of the original weren't weeb as fuck but they at least had a style going for them. These new works look like they're copy pasted from the moe factory and can't say the storylines have been all that interesting either
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>>13546542

BiS opens with a generic setup and seemingly generic characters. Iris is a nice girl, Beato is a tsundere, and Jürgen is the typical MC. Expectations are established of a somewhat generic anime romance experience with dense lead unable to read a girl's obvious feelings for him. BiS then subverts these expectations hard. Iris isn't super nice and can be a bitch when she doesn't get her way, Beato turns out to be way heavier on the dere than the tsun, and Jürgen isn't the dense MC you initially think you're dealing with.

That they'd go with a generic cover actually works. Of course, they could just have gone with it because its the safe option.
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>>13546542

New artist isn't that bad. They're just young teens in that pic, so of course they get hit by generic cuteness.
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>>13544824
See >>13450486 and >>13443280
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>>13546382
anyone, who was into her.

although she slapped Katia out of nowhere like a bitch, she have some hidden attractive points.
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>>13546542
It's not as bad as Sayori at least, and the LN illustration do looks good and have style. It's just the VN being rushed, and it's nowhere near as bad as TE anyway.

It's hard to take your post seriously with cliche complains like "moe factory", even though you're right for the prequel art, and they're just younger.
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>>13546628

If you knew her backstory, you'd know that she'd had run ins with Beatrix in the past and knew that Beatrix was not someone you should fuck with. Katia, being the wide eye idealist she is, was spewing a lot of stupid crap and Gretel needed a quick way to shut her up before she gave Beatrix an excuse to turn her trolling and threats into actual actions.
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>>13544755
FOR
R
E
E
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>>13545055
That's the very minimum you gotta pay if you wanna lick her plastic nipples.
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I wonder what Yuuya's reaction would be if he saw this.
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>>13546832

>Irisdina as a MiG-21PF

How long until we get Lise as a MiG-24 and Beatrix as a MiG-27?
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>>13546832
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>>13546832
Joshin Eishi 1982 Ver. confirmed.

Now, to see which BETA gets bonked in that...
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Any news from the kickstarter team?
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>>13547127
kouki bought a new car
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>>13546542
Are you literally just spewing vomit on your keyboard or did your retard caretaker forget to supervise you.

MLA legs aren't even long, it's just that they have absolutely no sense of anatomy in skin tight outfits and look noodly as fuck combined with the high heels.

>>13546500
That's not early TE.
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>Cryska's forward facing sprite looks out of place because it's actually based on the original art
Go figure
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Tarisa will never get her original hair back
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Fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3YJ1GZVNHQ
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>>13547538
Jesus christ those drumrolls, I think I'm deaf now.
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>>13547538
Everything about this seems annoyingly convoluted and well, it's already laughably dragged out considering how fucking long ago the damn thing closed.

Who even wants most of this shit
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>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series/posts/1422360

update
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>>13547862
>BackerKit is doing their final review and if everything checks out we'll be sending out campaign surveys within the next 24 hours!
>if
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>We'll also have a major announcement by new year as to what we'll be doing with the extra funds.

OH COME ON. They teased like hell and now we have to wait another month.

>>13547538
>What is quick montage

>>13547604
The 500$ Steam credits was actually cool.

RM MV is total shit right now, and Degica games already out are mostly meh.
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>>13547872
Considering this should have been done last friday, they are already late so one day more or less will not change much.
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>>13548157
Have they even mentioned dakis will be delayed approximately forever yet.
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>>13548163

>Pillowcase heroine choice - 1 month after the design sketches are revealed (will most likely be the set deadline for BackerKit as well)

So basically anytime in 2016 as we don't know when the designs will be revealed ( And as Bou-San has a lot of work, it can literally be one month before Alternative release )
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>>13548171
Are they really ready to keep that shit open for 9 months?
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>All Collectors Boxes will have the option of either receiving an exclusive mini-shikishi with Yoshimune-san's signature printed on it (see mockup below) or having the box itself signed by the Muv-Luv Team.

So if you pick up the box signed, you will have a hand-made signature of all MLTeam ( Including Yoshimune-san ? ) and if you pick the mini-shikishi you get a print. That's like choosing between a statue in a collector and an exclusive ingame item, isn't it ?
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>>13548184
>Including Yoshimune-san ?
Who the fuck knows.

Personally the other random fucks would devalue it for me.
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>>13548189
Getting a printed signature is like photoshopping yourself next to your idol though.

>>13548183
Wait, I found something on the FAQ of the forum :

>The designs will be non-explicit, and will be worked on by Bou-sensei around January-February.

So it will last until February-March if everything goes right.
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>>13547277
>having this huge of a stick up your ass
>being this delusional
>the irony
liking shit art doesn't make it good ma famille
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>>13547872
Backerkit never
SM never
TE never
TDA never
Forefront NEVER EVER
3D TSF game never
ded kickstarter
ded franchise
ded fanbase
ded threds
ded waifus
ded robots
ded sargeants
ded fagiri
ded WALKEN
ded hope


postan best ded and her sister this time around
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>>13548538
Too bad I couldn't chomp her, she looks delicious.
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>>13548566
Sasuga Soldier-kun, those dubs are well deserved.
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>>13540221
No rapes by humans have occurred?
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>>13548806
Hum... No, not that I can remember at least. But I really think there is not even a secondary character getting raped by humans.

Now that I think of it, it's kind of surprising, considering how humans are fucked up, especially in Unlimited/TDA timeline. Even if there is always laws for citizens, an influencial man from army or government could easily abuse their subordinates.
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>>13548806
They have, but not to death, I think.
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>>13548833
Who are you thinking of ?
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>>13541834
>500 BDs
>This fanbase buying anything but waifufaggot merchandise

Make that 5,000 dakimuras. Every one coated with semen as a starter for fungi colonies.

Now this is definitely believable.
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>>13543976
It's /m/_wanderer, so using "faggot" is redundant.

Be sure to make some kind of joke about Extra never being animooted by Shaft too, just to see how mad he gets.
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>>13548852
Sylwia and that other Polish Girl in SM
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>>13548915
Oh yes, I totally forgot about Sylwia and Irena
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>>13548318
Muh opinions doesn't excuse being a retard.

Fuck off and watch Dragonball Z if you don't like blatant contemporary moe character designs because it's never been anything else and it never will be anything else, and as visual novels go it's not getting any better than Carnelian and Iizuki, no matter how much of an blithering /v/ fucktard you act like.
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>SM release tomorrow
>Backerlit soon
>Kickstarter finally updated

Are your asses ready for this?
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Muv-Luv Preorder Bonuses revealed

I really like this one from Traders, so alluring.
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>>13549372
Yeah I'm gonna need two hands for this.
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>>13549372
What support ? Poster ? Card ?

I should do a raid on Yahoo someday to get preorder/marketing materials I never really paid attention to.
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>>13549385
It doesn't mention what type they're going to be.
They're just revealing the sketches and which store will be using those sketches.
I assume that most will be tapestries.
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>>13549372
God, I might upgrade my pledge through backerkit if that means I get those Sumikas. (from 220 tier to...300)
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>>13549414
But it's preorder bonuses for the Vita version in Japanese stores. You won't have them with the KS.
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>>13549439
I'm gonna have to find super high resolution of those images to print out in a poster then I guess. Both Sumika posters look like theire going to be fantastic.

I also want the Kasumi poster but getting a print of that in a copy shop would land me in jail.
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>>13549469
As a Meiyafag, I personnally like the Sofmap one.

Try looking on Yahoo Auctions or Rakuten after the release. There is always people who sell goodies like that separately ( For a fair price or not depending of the market ). Because getting a high res image will probably be extremely hard ( Unless someone redo it, the original art will probably never get leaked )
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>>13549358
>>SM release tomorrow
Huh?
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>>13549519
We are already 26th in Japan, so tomorrow the first VN is out.
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>>13549519

Japanese time is ahead of US/Euro time. Right now, it's Thursday over there.
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Is the CODEX book an exclusive?
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>>13549555
For now, yes, but they will think about a release outside the KS.

No more infos on that.
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>>13549555
People will be reselling the dick out of kickstarter shit anyways. Hopefully people aren't desperate enough to let them actually make money off of it.
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>>13549563
Some people will, I wont. They can pry the codex away from my dead cold hands.
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>>13549513
I am more of a Sumikafag but the Softmap is better than having both Meiya and Yuuhi. You don't get to see Meiya often without her ponytail. Good taste sir.
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>>13549555
You know the digital Codex will be spreading like a wildfire.
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>>13549540
>>13549534
Shit, I'm not quite ready to read nip yet
Hope I can at least hook the game to VNR to fill the holes
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Backerkit is up, I just got the email.
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>>13549680
Same here
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>>13549680
>>13549685

Same, guess everybody get it at the same time.

We can finaly remove it from the Never list.
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>>13549680
And answered.
>>
Is the muvluv mobage any good?
>>
It's time to choose the 3 dakis cover.

Damn, no Yuuko nor Beatrix then. So I guess it will be Meiya, Marimo and... Kei. Or Irisdina. Or Kasumi. Jeez, I don't know.

Wait, now that I think of it, I want an answer about the signed boxes before. Guess I will wait a little and have more time to think about the dakis.

>>13549726
As good as a farming mobage can get. Well, that's not true, as there is a lot of farming mobage with actual gameplay. Here you have vaguely useful stats on cards and you push a button.

At least now there is a lot of good cards with actual exclusive art, at its debut there was mainly reused sprites.
>>
625th place here, feels good
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>>13549726
No. Wait for the DMM one.
http://www.dmm.com/netgame/feature/muv-luv.html
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>>13548184
Yoshimune won't sign collectors boxes. Only the MLTeam.
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>>13549726
it's shit, shit art, shit farm,
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>>13549770
Yeah I think, but I really don't consider a signature printing being anything exclusive. I think I will go with the MLTeam sign and get an hand-made signature from Yoshimune-san someday in Japan.

>>13549768
The choice between English and Japanese made me hope for an english release, but the page stay in japanese whatever you pick. Fuck.
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>>13549787
Yeah I selected MLteam too.
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>>13549540
I got my payment notification Wednesday night Japan time anyways.
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>>13549710
I want to fuck the head maids.
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>>13549648
New rUGP games keep needing new hooks. Currently nothing even hooks TE's 2.10 patch properly because none of those fucks ever installed it.
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>>13549588
Yeah but people are willing to pay a lot for physical if it's an exclusive.
>>
What's the Pin Badge? Is it just a tiny Valkyries pin?
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>>13549830
Oh god
Good old dictionary it is then
>>
I haven't received the email yet. Should I contact the support or wait?
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>>13549877
Wait at least 24 hours.

Backerkit will last until February at least, there is no need to rush ( Unless you want limited add-ons now ).
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>>13549826
>jilpoong17
;_;
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>>13549710
>that fucking art style
Whoever came up with it should burn.
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>>13549887
So the BackerKit is confirmed to run all that way to February.

But what about for the limited time items? When do they begin charging those? In 2 weeks?
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>>13549838
This? These are about 1 in. in diameter.
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>>13549895
Not confirmed, but hey said they will work with Bou-san in January/February, and that the Backerkit will last 1 month after the design are revealed.

Limited time items ? I don't remember seeing any limited time item.
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>>13549915
The Plushies, Gift Bags, and spare TSF kits all have a limit.

I added 2 Ruitares out of 470+ left to my reserveration.
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>>13549923
Does the codex have a limit? I haven't received the email yet.
>>
Why are the TSF kits so damn expensive? Aren't they plamo? I kinda want a Takemikazuchi but I've never built plamo before and I don't want to fuck up.
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>>13549915
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>>13549923
>>13549937

That's not a limit of time, just a limit of stock.

And it works on a first come first served basis. So if you got any limited add-on on the Backerkit, you should accept it quick.

You get charged at the end of the survey I think, at least from what I read on the forum as I didn't complete it myself now.
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Oh boy 2nd TSF jacket here I come.
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>>13549932
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>>13549947
Fuck.
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Is this backerkit thing only for those who contributed to the kickstarter before the deadline?
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>>13549972
Yes, at least 1$.
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>>13549787
>The choice between English and Japanese made me hope for an english release, but the page stay in japanese whatever you pick. Fuck.
Maybe the Muv-Luv team can negotiate an english version with Nutaku, or some shit.
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>>13549947
Fuck. Are the $220 tier pledge limited too? I'll upgrade to that when the money and email comes.
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>>13549972
They were making a list for people who didn't pledge to access backerkit a couple of weeks ago.
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>>13549932
>>13549947
Just FYI, the PHYSICAL CODEX is limited.

The DIGITAL CODEX is Unlimited, and can be had for 10 USD.
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>>13549985
From what I saw, every pledge above 500$ have been locked ( My luck, I was not sure to stay with the Superior Type B and just waited for more designs to make my mind, but I have no choice now ), and every other below that seems to be accessible without limit.
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>>13549985
Doesn't seem like it.

But the maximum upgrade is 500 USD.
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>>13549933
>Why are the TSF kits so damn expensive?
Because people are dumb enough to pay it.

The Japanese 00R 1.5 MSRP currently converts to 47USD, the actual price on AmiAmi to 37USD. Even with EMS (and why would you in this comparison) it's not going to go that high.
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>>13549945
How comfy?
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For the gift bag is it gonna be cheaper to be delivered early 2016 or waiting with the rest ?
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>>13550021
Comfy as fuck, though the zipperlocks on the sleeves can be a bit annoying if you're using a keyboard.
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>>13550038
So tempting.

Judging by the earlier image, it seems to be pretty warm.

What temperatures and wind level does it handle reasonably?

Tempted to buy one to replace an old and worn "light" jacket for use in cool to cold morning runs.
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>>13550038
Fuck, you are actually making me want one of it, though it would up my pledge to 1120$.
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>>13550062
It's not wind resistant, it's 100% polyester, it's really nice during autumn/late summer evenings when it comes to temprature. It's nice for morning runs I would say. I usually wear a t-shirt under when I'm using it indoors.
The jacket itself is rather tight so choose your size carefully, I'm a 183cm tall dude with a bit of beer gut so I went for Large size and it's fits like a glove.
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Vita or Android port if I want to sell it later?
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>>13550121
There is obviously more users of Android than Vita, so the potential market is more important.

Unless they link it to your account and you can't sell it.
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>>13550116
Thanks for the responses. I might go ahead and put down a reservation for the jacket after all.

Also, is that a Ceberus patch? Or is that the patch of one of the other TSF teams from Eurofront? And where did you get it?
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>>13550006
Why would they limit the add-on but not the tiers?
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>>13550163
Because you can't add anything you want in a tier.
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>>13550131

See >>13550116 for picture.
This is the Yukon Base/Project PROMINENCE jacket.
Left side: UN patch, the small writing is rather unreadable.
Right side: Project PROMINENCE patch

I've been looking everywhere for the Yokohama base version, and I literally wanted to throw my wallet into the screen when I saw it in the kickstarter.
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Neat
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>>13550310
No
Not neat at all
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Managed to add a Meiya daki to my overall order, thank you Backerkit.
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>>13550406
woops
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>>13549391
>>tapestries

If those Sumika and Meiya sketches will look as great as I expect it too, I will be poor for the rest of my life.
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>>13550413
Yeah, I'm actually wanting to preorder them to be sure to get them instead of waiting for an hypothetical auction. Should be easy enough to sell the Vita copies as I have no Vita and I know people selling things in Japan.

I will wait for more infos, like a confirmation it's a tapestry and the size.
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Did 1000 people drop their pledge at the end?
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>>13550453
I don't know if it's taking into account the backers from the KS or those who have confirmed their Backerkit.
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>>13550453
well a lot of people upgraded for the physical codex
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>>13550510
Why? Were they not aware what sort of book IW was before KNG showcased it?
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>>13550453
No Sumika figma anymore in the 150 tier? What a shame. I mean, it's not the main reason to get it but it would have been a nice bonus.
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>>13550520
The figma is still there according to the email.
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>>13550520
Sumika Figure comes with the Collector's box therefore it comes with the $150 pledge and up.
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>>13550536
>forums
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>>13550543
What happened in there?
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>>13550544
you don't want to know
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>>13550536
>tfw didn't really want Sumika figma
>tfw got one anyway somehow
Oh well, it's still Sumika
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Can we redo the survey once we do it once if we change our minds?
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>>13550993
only the address can change
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>>13551005
So we can't go back and change our minds about which Daki to get and the like?
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>>13550903
that's S00mika.

the gloss is irresistible & it's a patrician's taste, to have those.
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>>13551006
Right.
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>>13549372
Goddamn. I want that Slutmika, bathing Meiya, and twins.
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>>13550993
Not the portion of what you pledged.

But you can alter whatever extras you ordered.
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>>13550903
I want a decent Kasumi fig.
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>>13548828
>But I really think there is not even a secondary character getting raped by humans.
You're forgetting SM.

>considering how humans are fucked up, especially in Unlimited/TDA timeline
That kind of annoys me. The original trilogy is fundamentally humanistic. It's about love and courage. The grimdarkness comes from a shitty situation, not shitty people. There are selfish people, but it's love and courage that beat the BETA.

I can't think of a single truly evil person from the original trilogy.
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>>13551245
So go buy it.

>>13551257
Sagiri is a terrible person whose idiotic actions are somehow accidentally justified because of some cartoon CIA villain off screen.
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>>13551257
>I can't think of a single truly evil person from the original trilogy.
Maybe the guy who saw Jinguuji-sensei eating with another man?

But he seemed more crazy than evil. Based on the manga, he was distraught rather than sadistic.

>>13551271
Sagiri sucks, but he's not evil. He's misguided and stupid, not malicious. He legitimately cares about Kei.

If he is evil, he's certainly not Axmann-tier evil.
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>>13551290
Maybe but what is the guy that brainwashes immigrants and has his own country's strongest combat unit killed to try to overthrow a stable allied foreign government?
>>
Has anyone here read the All Ages version of Alternative? I'm considering reading it next time around. I found the rape scene so unpleasant that I don't want to see it again. And I didn't much enjoy the other H scenes, so I don't mind them being removed.

Is the All Ages decent or should I just stick to the 18+?
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>>13550413
Can you post them, or a link to them?
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>pledge confirmation
finally
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new non scale Mig 23 up for preorder:
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-4017&page=top

it's Theo's unit
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>>13551483

You mean its Lise's unit that he took after he killed her.
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>>13551483
whoa, 4th fucking non scale MiG in a row?
Koto sure is betting hard on SM
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>>13551483
>that green camo pattern
it's going to be a massive waterslide sheet like the Terminator?
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>>13551538

I want to see Beatrix's red MiG-27 custom.
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>>13551551
there's her MiG 23 so far only
but it and we might the 27
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>>13551538
>two whole molds
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
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>>13550517
Well the actual pledge tier to get the physical wasn't put up until the Operaton Cherry Blossom tier was reached.
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>>13551483
FUCKING GEKISHIT FUCKING WHEN
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>>13551603
buy one of those MiGs and mod it
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>>13551606
With my luck by the time I'm done modding the faggots with go and release it.

>4th fucking non scale MiG
They made 7 takemis and 3 EF2K and Yuro didn't even get an animu. This is literally nothing.
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>>13551649
1/144 was really the anime tie-in line anyways.
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>>13551257

Most of SM's characters, with a few notable exceptions, seem to be people who'd be alright and even decent if they weren't in such a shit situation. I don't think Beatrix would be nearly as bad if the BETA weren't forcing her to be. Killing deserters (especially if they're fleeing with TSFs that you desperately need) and stamping out dissent kind of makes sense when you're backed into a corner like East Germany was.
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>>13551538
>>13551570
I only want one of those MiGs, but I can't decide on which one, waht to do
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Reminder Schwarzesmarken is your only hope to get A-10 and F-14 plamo and there's no way you'll get both.
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>>13550543
>>13550627
>muh secret club is better
Kek
>>
So the update says we have until Jan 15th to choose when we get the gift bag, and until 1 month has passed since the designs have been revealed to choose that.

So how do I choose one thing but defer the others? Unless the guy above in this thread was wrong, the only thing I can update is my shipping address once I confirm.
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>>13551532
With his MiG-21's chickenhead, no less.
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dmm game look good as expected
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>>13552346
Any other screenshots?
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>>13552372
http://www.dmm.com/netgame_s/muvluvsf/
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>>13551362

Link to it is posted in >>13549372 already.
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>>13552071
I wouldn't call a general thread on a open site like 4Chan a secret club.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27671689
Video showing off the Schwarzesmarken voices.
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>>13552346
This looks a lot like Plants versus Zombies to me for some reason.
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>>13552346
Nice. Now i hope it won't be a p2w and be more like Kancolle where you don't need to spend money to enjoy the game.
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>>13552380
>English text translation

No hope for an english release if they are not even capable of translating a description without Google.
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>>13552413
>Kancolle
>small c
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>>13552420
Even here i am not safe from this shitpost.
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>>13552406
>still now even half animation showed,

how bad it's going to be?
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>>13552440
At first i thought i was watching the trailer of the VN until i see the character.
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>>13552440
>>13552406
Fucking kek
It's going to be worse than TE
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>>13552631
>Worse than TE

You are placing the bar pretty damn high here. Being worse than total garbage is actually hard.
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>>13550453
>>13550520
It's just the blurb from the campain, it's not an inclusive list.
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>>13550520
Yeah, the figma showed up on my survey too. I didn't want one and didn't even expect to get one, but I suppose I shouldn't begrudge free stuff.
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That little hat looks good on her.
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>>13552406
>the chanting
https://youtu.be/qzVBqBosf5w?t=2m56s
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>>13552406
Is this supposed to be a PV, or is it literally just a voice and character design showcase?
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>>13552999

It's a bad PV.

They didn't even bother showcasing Yukarin/Beatrix and Kenny/Axmann.
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>>13553004
That's because their designs havent't been released yet ( At least for Beatrix )

Dunno if they will do another video for the rest of the cast.
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>>13553004
The title says "Chara PV". With luck they'll shit out at least one more PV with some actual mecha and animation shown.
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Well, at least the VN is still looking good.
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>>13553019
Girls with chokers are my fetishe.
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>>13553052

Beatrix is my fetish. Yes, but chokers are amazingly hot.
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>>13553056
>>13553056
>>13553056

New thread.

>>13553056
>>13553056
>>13553056
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