What does /m/ think about the Xenoblade Chronicles X mechas?

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Will do a small dump of all their designs, starting from the Light class ones up to the Heavy class.

This one's called the
>Formula

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The
>Wels

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Here's the
>Urban

that's the last of the Light class

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Here's the first medium Doll, the
>Lailah

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The other Medium class Doll, it's my 2nd favourite of all the Doll designs.

>Inferno

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This is the first Heavy-Frame doll. Obviously the best designed Mecha in the game.

The
>Mastema

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And the last, most powerful, most heavy, most armored Doll in the game. There's something kinda regal about it's appearance.

The
>Amdusias

Love 'em. Kanetake Ebikawa did a great job on 'em.

I hate the name "Dolls" though. Aren't they called something else in the English market? Skells or something?

>>13529991
It's funny though because a lot of the western fanbase HATES that the name was changed to "Skells".

>>13529991
>>13530015
I was upset when they changed from Dolls. But I'm ok with Skells now

Shit. Now go away.

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>>13529991
>>13530015
>>13530036

Skells is definitely a better name. Is it an acronym? Because it should be.

>>13529984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBx6mAWYPU

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>>13529984
>most powerful

That's simply not true

>>13529991
I like Dolls a lot better, it actually makes sense. Plus anyone that has seen Wing will already by familiar with the term.

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>>13530303
>Plus anyone that has seen Wing will already by familiar with the term.

Anyone who has ever seen a Barbie or any other dolls -- or, really, anyone who speaks English -- will already be familiar with term. And think it's a dumb term for a giant robot.

Does Xenoblade Chronicles have a single-ending romance in the story?

>>13529935
I like them a lot.

Please remember to send mails and ask why they simply didn't change the min and max values of the bust slider instead of removing it completely. Regardless you care about the censorship or not, such laziness getting away scot-free means more and more lazy censorship like that will happen. If no ones calls them on about it, the next Xeno on NX may have mecha/parts with Bible whatever related names completly removed instead of simply getting their names changed.

>>13530356

If you mean "is there an OTP", yes.

>>13530438

Just bring back Richard Honeywood.

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>>13529935

Have yet to play it to make an opinion but I have liked what I have seen so far.

>>13529946
Isn't that what the monsters in gears were called?

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>>13530293

More ARES pics please.

>>13530622

No, Wels were the base form of "humans" because aside from Cain (the sole survivor of the crash and thus the only actual human), everyone on the planet was a "close enough" approximation made by Deus.

Nanomachines turn the people back into Wels near the end of XG.

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>>13530624

Literally Turn X with some wheels slapped on.

>>13530625
So yes, I was right, it was what they called the monsters in gears.

Thank you for confirming.

>>13530015
I like skells, im just mad there's no japanese audio Yet I've already preloaded the game because Im a man of weak morals

>>13530649

They're not monsters though, they're people. The monsters were the result of...I think radiation from the Zeboim era.

>>13529987
Huh. I thought these were Yanase's.

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>>13530628

It does not look so bad.

Now if they release this pic in a higher res things would be much better because of reasons.

>>13530665
They're monsters, they were just made to look like people with nanomachines and genetic engineering.

I hope online isn't region locked or EU online will be probably desert or full of 12 years old.

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>>13532226

If I heard it right it looks like it's not region blocked.

Check Gamexplain Q&A videos. They are spoiler free.

>>13529984
The O's cousin that skipped every day except leg day

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Post more Dolls/Skells.

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Hoe does this weapon works? Range, power, worth it? Can you still fly with it? Is it one of those so-called Super Weapons?

>>13529978
LAWFAGS GO AND STAY GO

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>>13530268

Is there art like this for the Ares yet?

What about the DLC Skells?

>>13532250
Checking them thanks.

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>>13533789
Yeah, it's a super weapon. There should be a showcase of them on youtube.

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>>13535712
>>It can still fly.

That's unexpectedly awesome for the Skell to pull that off.

>>There should be a showcase of them on youtube.

I'm torn between wanting to check that out and keeping myself as spoiler-free as possible.

>>13536161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajETylWuMxk

Demonstration of the super weapons. No spoilers beyond that.

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>>13535459

Bunny-Girl effect.

>>13536176
>>Demonstration of the super weapons.

B-But muh spoiler-free run!

>>No spoilers beyond that.

OK Thanks.

>>13530324
I like Dolls, too. I like the irony of a killing machine having a name that gives the opposite impression. Skells sounds too tryhard and edgy.

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>>13536176

Boy that was impressive and given how many of the super-weapons were featured in Nintendo's own guide I no longer feel bad for watching that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxO6qaXUcGc

Are these weapons late into the game? Nintendo's use of them in their own video makes them look like, while begin powerful, they are not that important or game breaking.

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their shit

SHIT

>>13535712
Man, it still makes me amazed looking at those webms of the gigantic world, I really fucking wish we got something like this on PC, all we get are mostly Bethesda that are insanely buggy. I just want a vibrant looking world to explore and do shit, also can't wait for this game to be released

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>>13535213

While on the subject of videos. I have been trying to live under a rock when it comes to Xenoblade X so no wonder why I missed thus but, Why are the youtubers with copies of the game already?

A previous thread touched on the subject that Nintendo is giving the streamers/players a bit more of care than to the 'normal' press so, What happened?

>>13536739

What's a going on in there?

>>13536739
Its a good thing you can actually tone down the UI or outright turn of most of it in the options

>>13536993
Eh, its japanese copies and people making comparasions with the build they had on events or released, some already have the game but aren't allowed to post anything until the day its released

>>>/v/

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>>13537004

Really? Well they do have the game but so far try to keep it spoiler free.

>>13537113
Well, nintendo is one of the few that is still adamant about revealing anything about the story or really anything deep about the game of any of their games until release

>>13537010
>don't talk about mecha on the mecha board
Thanks /a/

>>13537004
>>13537113

Not true, GameXplain has been uploading videos nonstop with permission from Nintendo.

https://www.youtube.com/user/GameXplain/videos

The only reason they aren't going into spoilers is because they personally don't want to, the only spoiler-heavy thing they did was a stream of the first 2 hours.

>>13536176
drill pile a best super weapon

>>13536993
Nintendo gave some people participating in their youtube program early copies with conditions on how much they can show off.

>>13529935
Wish they weren't stuck in a shitty game.

>>13530625
The only survivor from the Eldridge crash is Abel, not Caim.

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>>13538497

That would explain it.

>>13534752

Potential spoilers but I need to ask. Are we seeing that Hero anytime soon in the story? Is any of the Skells you can get (standard models, the Ares or the DLC ones) anywhere close in power to the Skell that the Hero uses?

>>13530650
Not true at all. You're a man who can overcome some downsides if you get more of what you want with it. That is compromise, anon, and that is a good thing.

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Hype as fuck to roll with this pack early on before going through my head canon mid-season upgrade to the Mid and Heavy Skells.

>>13529935
Never paid much attention to it, but I like them just from what I've seen in this thread.

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>>13539352
>Caim

Pic related

And you're right, I forgot about that. Cain killed Abel, as if he couldn't.

>>13529991
>>13530268
Only insecure americukolds don't like Doll. Skell is also a weak replacement.

>>13540728
>Only insecure americukolds don't like Doll. Skell is also a weak replacement.

Doll = little girl's baby toy
SKELL =
Superhuman
Kinetics
Enhancement
Load
Lander

Or whatever other acronym you want. It's clearly superior.

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>>13529991
There's nothing wrong with Dolls. The first thing my friend asked when he heard the name was if it was symbolic, which it was. That said, Marionette or something along those lines would have worked better for the English market than Skell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0UdSw9a5hg
>HOP IN A SKELL

>>13540788
Doll = One of Takahashi's typical religious metaphors
Skell = Literally a derogatory term for homeless people

Legitimately curious.

If you had to call the dolls something other than dolls, what would you call them?

>>13540788
Fukuda pls

>>13540728
Don't blame the localizers, blame 20 years of society making boys have to differentiate, "they're not dolls they're action figures" or they'd be made fun of

>>13540864
Gears

'skells' is literally sheev-tier.

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>>13540414
>>going through my head canon mid-season upgrade to the Mid and Heavy Skells.

That's actually a nice idea to maybe you have enough mid-class stuff with the Inferno and the Lailah (and possibly a DLC one) to hold the heavies and the super-weapons for a end-season upgrade.

And then have the Ares "appear" for the final battle.

>>13540878

What does G.E.A.R.S. stand for?

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>>13529963

Checking the stuff I have I can't find the art of the Lailah like the other models have (see>>13530268 ) Is it missing or something?

>>13541000
>And then have the Ares "appear" for the final battle.
The way I see it, I'm inspired by Gundam and the first set of MMPR
Have my pack of 3 (BlaPBLuYR), then let the 4th (G) arrive after the fact with his Skell that is more powerful than the rest. I'll probably give him Lailah since it looks most similar to the Lights. Then, when the first three upgrade to Inferno, Mastema, and Amdusia, 4th can stick with Lailah until Ares shows up, and he gets his upgrade (G>W) The question becomes which show takes precedent at that point. In Gundam, the protag would take the upgrade and leave his previous suit to one of the underlings. In MMPR though, Tommy went from Green with his Dragonzord to White and got his Tigerzord. We'll have to see how that turns out.

>>13530619
How do /m/en plan on painting their Skells?

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>>13541051

I'll go the Gundam route but I'm still not sure how the DLC dolls will operate so I'm holding long-term plans until I have more than a clue on those.

>>13541119

Not even the slightest idea. It's kind of scary actually given my experience with XCOM Enemy Within and Long War. You can spend a ton of time on customization and then lose the stuff in less than 5 minutes.

>>13540790

I understand where the symbolism of the "Doll" term comes from and how it works, but it just reeks of "we couldn't think of a good term for the mechs, all the good ones are taken" to me. (Plus, you know, the children's toy thing.)

Meanwhile: SKELL... exoSKELeton. See? I just made up the acronym for fun.

>>13540829
>Skell = Literally a derogatory term for homeless people

Never heard of it

Wait?

So do we get the DLC characters, arts and skells free in the west? What are the DLC skells?

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>>13541277
http://xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Policeman
http://xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Excavator
http://xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Yumbo

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So /m/, are you going to name your character and doll based on a mecha anime?

>>13540289
I don't think so.

I haven't played in a while so im probably off but its implied they fucked off somewhere.
don't read if you haven't beat game
IIRC the hero is an alien like Elma. That mech he pilots is a next-gen hybrid of human/ayylien tech like the Ares is, ostensibly it is stronger than the Ares, though.

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>>13541313
Probably gonna stick with Cross.

As for the Dolls, I've been trying to find non grunts from Gundam series that fit the functional strengths and weaknesses per their descriptions on >>13530619
I've made a few selections, but still have a few to lock down.

>>13541186

It hasn't been in common usage for a long time.

>>13541472
Considering a designer from 00 is the person behind the Dolls, it would be more accurate to compare them to the Meisters.

>>13541527
I know...I just really don't wanna draw from that pool more than I need to...

>>13541518
>>13541186
It's also apparently a mostly-NYC thing.

One thing that is throwing me off about the designs is the fact that with their backpacks, and how low the heads are, a lot of them look like hunchbacks

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>>13541329
>>Spoilers.

Don't worry, anyone who bothered to slow down the first trailers/game tutorials pretty much guessed that from the get go. Even Gamexplain speculated that in the beginning.

>>ostensibly it is stronger than the Ares, though.

It really looks that way which makes things even more interesting. Thanks for the info.

>>13541537

Why, it was one of the best shows before the movie.

>>13541537
So you instead draw from a pool of literal shit and its friends RX-78 and Tallgeese?

>>13541780
season 2*

>>13541798

I liked Season 2, but that's because Ribbons was The Mule

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>>13541298
>>Policeman looks like a modified Urban so Light Frame.
>>Excavator is an armed builder so it looks like a Heavy Frame.
>>Yumbo I have no idea. Maybe a weird Medium Frame?

Anyone with any more info on the DLC skells/dolls?

>>13541935

Well they're free

>>13541472
When I see the name Urban I think of the Urbanmech and imagine playing through the game as a giant barrel on legs with guns attached.

>>13540788
>only thing that sticks with you is a little girl's toy
Welp you proved yourself to be what I insulted you with.

>>13540878
I will blame the localizers. NoE wasn't perfect, but NoA and 8-4 really shit the bed with this game.

>>13541184
Doll comes from a plot twist. Hint: marionettes.

Skell is just making up your own acronym for the sake of differentiating it. And giant robots aren't really exosekeltons. Power amor is closer to that.

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>>13529978
Yes obviously the best.

is there a definitive list of changes to the western release floating around? i want to play it cause, fuck, giant robots, but the localization seems to be poorly handled?

>>13530570
Well that's disappointing. I suffered enough in the last game.

>>13542729

bird girl was best, yes.

>>13542681
Lyn's aged up, Lu Syph is now L, one or two costumes altered (censored), BLADE got butchered, Doll is changed for the worse, and lots of needless but small namechanges.

Colepedian union faction is called something else, despite being a smart portmonteau and "collepedia" being a thing in the first game.

Rumors going around that NoE is pissed off at NoA's work.

>>13542756
Lin's still 13
None of the suits have had their name changed
All of the divisions were changed to give a better since of what they actually do

>>13542756
>Rumors going around that NoE is pissed off at NoA's work.

Wouldn't surprise me. The two do not seem to get along at all.

>>13542772
But the union's names were fine before. You don't need a 100% description of their qualities, especially since descriptions of them are in the game.

That's like saying the Titan's should have a name change because they are not titanic or large.

>>13542774

But what can NoE do at this point?

>>13542835
I agree, the names were fine as they were.
But I can also see why they were changed. And the new names are pretty decent, so it's not that bad of a change.

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>>13542756
>BLADE got butchered

BuiLders After the Destruction of Earth does indeed sound awful when compared to plot related Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipador.

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>>13530293
>>13530624
>>13530628
>>13530677

The real most powerful doll.

>>13536309

Indeed. While powerful, they all pale to the Argus Cannon

>>13541660

See >>13542947

>>13541051
I like you, anon.

I didn't know about the Ares. I planned on my protag getting back into a beefed up Urban

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>>13542890
>>BuiLders After the Destruction of Earth

Builders of the Legacy After the Destruction of Earth.

Derp.

Well, they're advertising it on TV this time.
Maybe NoA has slightly more faith than we thought.

>>13543218
They're admittedly (imo) not that great of commercials. The voiceover was a little cringey for my tastes and makes me wonder how much effort really went into it/them and what sort of crowd they're appealing to. The UK promos fare better imo.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0UdSw9a5hg

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>>13542835
>>13542867

Here are the originals for reference.

>>13543240
The average american needs exposition if not, he won't be able to understand what is he watching on the TV.

The EU version isn't voiced probably because it would required to add voices with different languages

>>13541784
Literal Shit being Wing?

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>>13542957

The more I see the super-weapons the more it looks like some of them were extracted from this fellow or from one of it's friends.

>>13543384

Yes. I thought that was obvious.

I put Tallgeese outside because it's a fantastic suit regardless of what show it's in.

>>13543387

I hate to be a newbie pleeb, but what is that and what is it from?

>>13543417
It's an enemy mech from the game being discussed.

>>13543417

Put simply, one of the two alien races that blew up earth in the opening cutscene shows up after a certain point in the game, and that's one of their mechs.

I'd say it's a spoiler, but if you thought a game where aliens blow up earth would never have the aliens appear again then I don't know what to say.

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>>13543467

Not to mention that this particular enemy has been presented in many of the game trailers, tutorials and screenshots

>>13543387

Well, most of the real high tech shit is alien based so, yeah, this.

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>>13543545

Twice so because some of the super-weapons really looks like straight out of it like the claws, the horns and that thing on it's back has the potential to be a couple of them as well.

>>13543406
Did you look at the practical strengths of the Amdusias? Its built for melee, has armor to withstand melee, and comes with an e-scythe. Other than the Skell looking like the O, its strengths and weaknesses, seem most like the Deathscythe. Same thing with Mastema being best at ranged damage, and coming with a sniper rifle. I'm not concerned with the quality of the series the Not-grunt is from as much as finding one that best matches the practical in combat strengths and weaknesses of the Skell in the game. The series only comes into play if I've already found a suit from it, because I'd really like to avoid double dipping. In the case of Wing, I make an exception because I pulled Deathscythe first, and am willing to make an exception for Tallgeese for the reason you already seem to know.

>>13543568

Anon...you realize that damn thing is, at least in space, just one of their mook mecha, equal to a Zaku...maybe a Dom at best.

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>>13543577

Wait. When you say "just one of their mook mecha" are you referring to >>13543496? Or the one in >>13543568?

>>13543633

>>13543496=Assault Type
>>13543568=Commander Type modified
>>13530624=Attempt to recreate...
>>13541660=Prototype Earth Secret Weapon
>>13542947=Future game I.nterstellar D.estroyer

>>13543569

No I'm saying you're insulting the Dolls by comparing them to such a shit series, you're bringing them down in the process.

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>>13543650

Thanks for the clear up.

Yeah, I have no idea of what is what yet so I though that the Assault-Type was a main boss given how much it has been featured as such in the Tutorials and Trailers.

>>13543668
I guess its a good thing I'll be painting them in color schemes based on those suits in my copy of the game and not yours then.

>>13543679

I have no idea anon. All I know is that the next game will have space battles.

IF...Nintendo backs up Monolith.

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>>13543650

Also.

>>Future game I.nterstellar D.estroyer

Yes Please.

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>>13543687
This is a time when I wish I didn't have autism, your enjoyment upsets me.

I belong here

>>13543706

I wanna say this will show up at the end of the next game. Just as the Growth fleet is to seriously fuck up mankind...and then it Ideon Swords the whole lot of them with something that looks like the Monado.

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>>13543728

That be too awesome for words. Hopefully this game will do better here than it did in Japan.

Space Mecha Battles NEED to happen.

>>13542890
Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipator isn't plot-related in-universe, though. It makes no sense to name a public organization that in the context of the game. That, and it's only there as an engrish name to establish the setting is based on the US (Neo Los Angeles) to a japanese audience where everything else is being spoken and written in japanese.

>>13543715
Just be glad I didn't go full Wing which was the full plan. I tried, but my autism wouldn't let me do that. Deathscythe and Tallgeese make sense with the Skells I assigned them to. The others were just going to be forced on, and I could not abide that. Not where surely there must be better, more appropriate, accurate options elsewhere in the Gundam Multiverse.

>>13529970
>>13529978
I love some delicious thighs but

>>13529984
This is too much. This is just beinf fat.

>>13540788
Dope
Outlandish
Liberty
Luna

Much better than

Shitty
Knacky
Erghh!
Lame
Latte

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>>13543807
>>isn't plot-related in-universe, though.

Really? One of the first trailers make it sound like it was quite an important clue for a future event. Was it just a reference to Wii's Xenoblade?

In any case, the original meaning was a bit nicer but if it's not plot relevant it becomes a nitpick on my part.

>>13542756
>Claimed to want to preserve Xenos-series references
>Changes Wels to Versus

Come on Nintendo. I still want to get the game because of the gameplay but NoA doesn't know much about what they're translating.

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>>13542756

>>13545454
Too blunt and rude but at least not vulgar and without swearing.
Please keep sending mails everyone.

>>13543728

Just as a note, they aren't called the Growth in the english version, they're called the Ganglion.

Before you go full autism, a ganglion is a specific type of bodily growth in the form of a cyst, and the way it works is the same way as why Takahashi used the word Growth to describe them as a race.

>>13544280
>Deathscythe and Tallgeese make sense with the Skells I assigned them to.

Tallgeese sure, but not Deathscythe.

DS's whole deal was hiding, it was designed to sneak up on the enemy because it actually wasn't very durable for a Gundam in Wing. Which is why its upgrades emphasized the stealth aspect even more. Amdusias on the other hand is built with overwheling power in mind, to rush through the enemy's defenses and crush them through sheer force, the opposite of Deathscythe. The only thing they really have in common is the weapon.

If anything, Amdusias is more like a mobile armor than any suit.

>>13542756
>Lyn's aged up

I'm killing that statement right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPi7WI0QA8g

50:45

>>13546038
>The only thing they really have in common is the weapon.
Good enough for me.
Jesus Christ. I wrote that as what I thought was an epilogue to our conversation. The last thing I wanted was another paragraph about how you think I'm choosing the wrong MS's as inspiration for my Skells in my copy of the game. I thought you brought up "autism" in the humorous sense, but I think I realize you were very serious. I'm done. I hope you have fun with your Skells the way you want to, regardless of what other people think of your choices.

>>13545454
>ok thanks

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>>13546060
>Good enough for me.

Then you might as well paint it after the Dis Astranagant, even if that had a rather boring color scheme.

>>13546038
Ganglion may also refer to nerve cell clusters, I think most people who have encountered the term might even default to the nerve cell kind.

>>13546071

Yeah but the Growth are called that because that's what they are like, an abnormal bodily growth.

So ganglion would be referring to it as a cyst

Why do the aliens want us dead anyway?

>>13546115

The Growth is an artificial life creation built by an ancient alien race, to be used as slaves and tools. The Growth eventually get out of control, and destroyed this ancient race instead. The ancient race however, leave a safety mechanism in The Growth's DNA, to prevent them from being out of control (which obviously failed). And the safety mechanism is the ancient life's DNA. Humans are probably a far, far child of this alien race, which landed on Earth long, long time ago and created mankind. The Growth fear the safety mechanism hidden in the human DNA, which is why they want to destroy mankind so eagerly.

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>>13546038
>>If anything, Amdusias is more like a mobile armor than any suit.

Like a reverse Xamel?

>>13543807
Except it's also thematically related to the theme of Xenoblade. Shulk's whole monologue at the end of the game was about it as well.

>>13530293
Literally a Decepticon.

>>13546144

Sorta? The Xamel is big and slow and relies on being a piece of artillery.

>>13546363
X has nothing to do with Xenoblade Chronicles outside of cute references.

>>13545345

Yes, the Zohar will show up. The objects you see at the end of the game are proto modifiers. The real one is hidden from even Elma and is the reason Growth/Ganglion fears mankind.

>>13546038

No autism needed anon. I just want my epic space battle of mankind tearing ass the galaxies over.

>>13546384
>>13546144
Wouldn't that just be the Mastema then?
If there are powerfists/knuckle weapons in the game, then I guess you could make Amdusias a bit like Big O in function, if not form.

>>13540829
the religious references were there to make it sound cool and nothing more like evangelion

>>13540728
skell just makes more sense since its an abbreviation for exoskeleton

>>13547800
I hope that was sarcasm.

>>13547794

Except in Gears it directly ties into Gnosticism.

>>13529935
Are there renders like these for the 4 semi-secret mechs?

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>>13548954
Only sketches and concepts.

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>>13549045

Please post the if you have them.

>>13547810
nope
>>13547811
this isn't xenogears

>>13549495

Except unlike Eva where Anno specifically did it to sound cool, Doll directly ties it into the game's themes in that a machine is seen as just a soulless robotic puppet being moved around, which becomes ironic that humanity refers to it as such when it's revealed that everyone except for Elma, including the player, is nothing but a soulless robotic shell themselves, driven by a copy of the original person in stasis. The Doll being considered a ghost in the machine because someone inside controls it is then compounded because the pilot itself is a ghost in the machine.

Except for Elma, who is an alien

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>>13549495
>>this isn't xenogears

Yet >>13543650

This is the first-ever open world mecha game, right?

Did they explain what kind of power source/engine do the Dolls run on? The cutaways in the artbook don't indicate any sort of battery or powerplant in the robots.

>>13550619
Space Fuel. Then you run out and you need more SPACE FUEL!

>>13550619
Are you that guy who's always wondering what the circle on the Inferno's chest is for

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>>13551200

There is the fuel thing but doesn't it also recharges when not in motion?

>>13550619

They run on tech from Elma's world, so I would think that's the only person who fully understands them. Much like Weltall's black boxes.

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>9 days

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>>13552227

Almost like an eternity.

>>13552219
Yes. Slowly.
However, once you have your oil drilling operation properly set up, you should have more than enough Space Cash to keep your hobos fully fuelled.

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>>13546901
>>13551493

Is this how it looks like when you engage in a Skell VS human-size-enemy fight when the opponent is in a higher level than you?

>>13553150
>>However, once you have your oil drilling operation...

Will keep that in mind. Thanks.

>>13553150

So there are nine frames total out of the Light, Medium, Heavy, the two DLC and then the super special hero frame?

>>13553536
Er, meant 10 frames total.

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>>13552227
8 now

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>>13553536
>>13553586

The 7 ´normal´ frames + the 3 DLC ones + the Ares make for eleven types of Skell so far.

>>13553901
One off, not too bad. Do we know if we're getting any more later on?

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>>13554119
>>One off, not too bad.

To be honest, the Policeman looks a bit too much like an Urban to me so it remains to be seen if its really different.

>>Do we know if we're getting any more later on?

That's a very good question. I hope we get at least another round of DLC before Nintendo moves on to the next big thing.

>>13547800
>calling a mech an exoskeleton

>>13554382

It's certainly not an endoskeleton

kinda wish I had a Wii U for this

Should we start exchanging IDs to form a squad?

>>13554382

It IS an exoskeleton, anon -- a kind of exoskeleton. It's just not a human-scale exoskeleton.

>>13554964

Damn, that's sexy.

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>>13554964

It really looks different from the others. I particularly like how the wheels are not dead weight in robot mode.

What the Skell behind the Ares at the beginning of the video? Excavator? Yumbo?

>>13555091
Looks like Amdusias.

>>13555124

Looks a bit too weird but it could be the equipment on it. I still say that the thing is an Excavator.

>>13555456
I'm positive it's the Amdusias, that huge skirt is unmistakable. It's a rear view if you didn't notice.

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Okay, I made a sign-up sheet of sorts for an /m/ squad:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rEZMXQZFtVpl0VLyuv5cTWmgwy1KS1vzmL8ybZ-AnsI/viewform

Submit your ID via that form, and it will appear on this spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ocwWhw1RYEHc0ATQzPnKjWnEfY9VzS8Nxvabe3Fk5NE/edit#gid=1331549286

Then simply add some people from the spreadsheet to your friend list, and you'll be able to squad up when the game comes out.

See you on Mira.

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>>13555467

I can see it now. I thought that the front was what was looking at the camera but now I see the skirt as well.

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Is this one really that hard to control on vehicle mode as the description says?

1 week until release!

It's almost here!

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>>13557612

So close yet so far away.

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>>13554964

A couple of questions:

The Ares is a super-weapon right? Does this means it itself can't equip other super-weapons as seen in >>13536176 ? What makes the Ares so special when compared to the others Skells? I heard it has something to do with the "laser output" but, as someone who has yet to play the game that remark was above me.

>>13555720
Whoops, forgot to make the spreadsheet public

Should work now

Is the gameplay all about the skells when you finally have access to them? I heard it takes a while until you finally get one

>>13558977
Geez, I hope it can. I have visions dancing in my head already.

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>>13559343

No, you can even live without them to a degree from what I have seen so far.

Quick question.

When you unlock the ability to purchase a Skell, can you pick among any of the 7 mecha available or are some locked behind something?

I just want to know if I can jump straight into Mastema or do I have to pick a starter mecha?

>>13559502
Once you get your Doll license you can purchase any of them (you get an Urban for free), the only limiting factor is the price. The Mastema is the second most expensive doll you can buy, so you'll have to save up for it.

>>13559502
You get one light mech for free.

After that, you are free to purchase any skell you want if you can afford it.

>>13559532
>>13559534
Thanks. I'll be saving until then.

>>13558977

It's because the Ether Attack stat or whatever they call it is double that of the second-strongest doll

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>>13529935
>Wii U

>>13559661
Big deal, just wait and see if the NX gets reverse compatibility.

>>13559694
lol, why not just emu with Dolphin by then.

>>13555056
You wear exoskeletons, not pilot them. Might as well call an airplane a type of exoskeleton.

>>13559799
>he doesn't pilot his skeleton

How else do you master the spoopy skellington living within you?

>>13559830
>you are just the pilot of your own meat mech
SPOOKY & DANK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTgFtxHhCQ0

>>13559830
>skeleton
>skel
>SKELL

DEEPEST LORE

>>13559661
Fromsoft can suck a dick for ditching AC series.

>>13550619
Think they mentioned this in one of the short stories on the Japanese website and I'm pretty sure it boiled down to Space Battleship Yamato stuff.

>>13560137
Found it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NZO8F6qMK8cWr8LYhj4g4P7Quu-_jZadkQXyFBaLm6g/pub#id.os784feupeym

>Among these were humanoid mobile weaponry...Dolls, a trump card developed to repel the alien armies, using technology not of the Earth. They had no internal combustion systems of their own, relying instead on power transferred from a main generator. They were an all-purpose weapon miniaturized into a small frame. And in just under ten years, a considerable number were manufactured. The Earth’s defense forces were well prepared.

It's called the DM engine.

A shame these short stories will never be officially translated.

>>13560159
>The DM Engine, made up of the auxiliary and main engines… If they could obtain that high-output, high-efficiency power reactor, they would solve all of the energy problems in NLA at once. But their current recovery plan faced two difficulties.

>The first was transportation. The DM Engine was incredibly compact and lightweight compared to things like nuclear fusion reactors, but it was still an engine from a massive immigrant ship. They were many logistical issues involved in its recovery and relocation in conditions near 1G gravity.

So it's a space reactor they zap power from somehow.

>>13559855
>>13559830
Fuck off, /v/. Or NoA/8-4.

>>13558977

In game yes, in series, its a proto type

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Pretty annoyed at the limited character customization that's been brought to my attention.

Would have liked to have curlier hair options for some of the young man heads but sadly they're all straight(all 6 heads). And the older man ones are the only ones that get this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApLZ28zlpp4

Guess I'm playing as a girl. Which makes the bust slider removal sting a bit more. Maybe I'll just wear some headgear as a guy.

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>>13559565
>>13560853

Thanks. That gives me a clearer idea.

>>13550619
>artbook

What!?! Where is it?!? WANT!!!

>cutaways

MUST SEE

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>>13561005

It's on sadpanda. Search for this:

>[Yanase Takayuki] Mechanical Design Work

i've been living under a rock. Are the DLC frames free or paid content?

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>>13561153

They are Free for America and Europe's release.

I didn't play the original, is the 3DS version a decent alternative?

More importantly: what's the combat like? I got a vague impression it's one of those games where you run into enemies and you automatically attack without needing to press anything, which I always found a pretty lazy mechanic.

>>13561189
>is the 3DS version a decent alternative?
I hope you have a New 3DS, the model with the second thumbstick and a confusing name.

Because it won't run on other 3DS systems.

>>13561207
Yeah I have the confusingly-named-New 3DS, I don't have many games for it and I've seen /m/ talking about Xenoblade more than enough to capture my interest.

>>13560159
>They had no internal combustion systems of their own, relying instead on power transferred from a main generator.
So like Xenosaga then?

>>13561189
Why didn't you get the original? It runs just fine on a Wii and the Wiimote controls aren't too bad. You can even play it on your new Wii U.

>>13561062
So did he not design Exia or he 00? Also, I haven't seen Awakening of the Trailblazer, but is the multitude of Gundams after the 00 S2 ones in it? I found myself seeing a lot in those that he clearly carried over into his Skell designs.

I'm glad they are a part of the game, but they are bordering on western mecha in terms of how busy the design is. You have to really stare at it to get a sense of what's going on.

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>>13562259
Gonna dump the design sketches, because I thought so as well, but really came to appreciate the thought that went into the design.

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>>13559343
They're a gimmick to get people to buy the game.

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>>13562281

>>13562270
>>13562272
>>13562273
>>13562278
etc

It's like if you ordered 5 entrees at a fancy restaurant

Each dish might be enjoyable but there is too much going on at once for any element to be appreciated fully

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>>13562280
How so?

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>>13561189
>>13561236

From what I have read here and elsewhere from those who have tried both the game is very good and even comes with additional features not found in the original.

The only drawback is the texture resolution were the graphics took a hit. Thankfully the game artistic design still holds up despite of that.

As for the combat I have to say that it can be very entertaining as you can try many combinations in many, many ways be it with gear, arts, characters, gems-slots, strategies and the like and this applies from the beginning all the way to the end game were The Super-bosses will always be a threat you can always test yourself against.

I really mean that last part as, even if theres a general strategy for dealing with them, you can always try a new combination of different teams/skills to take on the challenge.

>>13561189
It's good as long as you don't fixate on the texture downgrade.

Considering the move to a handheld it still looks pretty damn decent, besides it helps a lot that the Wii being low powered encouraged Monolith to focus less on texture porn and more on the shape and look of the game experience, and that outlook still holds on the similarly underpowered (relative to its contemporaries) N3DS.

It's just that you need to acknowledge the elephant in the room and move past it. There will be detail pop, textures will be eh at times, and sometimes I wonder if the color balance is a bit desaturated.

But boy do places like Gaur Plain look fucking amazing. Geography porn transcends texture detail.

Also the autoattack bug is fixed.

>>13561189

I have it and enjoy it

>>13560879

Choose your name carefully. You can change hair styles and even gender later in the game, but you can't ever change your name. And you only get 1 save per profile.

>>13562272
So that circle in the middle of the all the Dolls' chests are a DM Engine receiver, huh?

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Are the Skell on Skell battles a common thing during the game.

>>13562270
Anyone have a link to the artbook if there is one?

>>13563636
Only in the last third of the game or so, I think.

Also, is that a Sazabi?

>>13562589
Don't worry I'll regret my name immediately after creating my character regardless of how good it is.

>>13564680

I'm just going to go with the semi-canon name of Cross

Shame about no name changes. Would have been fantastic to create existing characters and have fun with that.

>>13563912
see >>13561062
That's where I found it.

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>>13563927
>>Only in the last third of the game or so, I think.

No surprises there.

>>13562589
>>And you only get 1 save per profile.

This is what I don't understand.

Just why?

>>13565232
>Just why?

Because fuck you that's why.

Seriously, there is no reason.

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>>13565241
>>Seriously, there is no reason.

It really makes no sense unless it's an internet thing.

>>13565381
Nintendo has always been a few decades behind schedule with Internet features.

There's probably NNID implementation nonsense at fault.

>>13566553
>>13565381

Dragon's Dogma did the same thing.

>>13529941
Each doll has 2 versions, you only dumped the level 30 ones. The look different at level 60.

>>13530293
The Ares is less powerful than the Mastema, simply because you can't equip custom equipment on it.

>>13567284
Probably way easier to get Ares 70 and 90 than buying a mastema then grinding forever for the best equipment for it.

>>13541935
Policeman and Yumbo are level 30 dolls, Excavator is level 60.
Excavator is the strongest doll you can get before the ending of the main story.

They all suck compared to the real thing, their only advantage is that they're free.

>>13567291
Right, that's the casual option.

>>13563636
Wow all the Growth mechs are samurai-themed.

>>13529935
So, I don't have a new 3DS or a Wii U, I only have a Wii and the original Xenoblade Chronicles. Is X a sequel, a remake, a reimagining, or what? I'm a bit confused but I don't want to look too deep into it so I don't get spoilers.

Also, I imagine this is all separate from Xenosaga, right?

>>13567584

The name Xenoblade has been mainly slapped on for marketing purposes. It makes some references to XC, but other than that it is its own game.

>>13567588
I see. So, is it in the same universe at all?

>>13567602

No

>>13567605
Got it, thanks.

>>13567584
There are similar themes to Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade.
Supposedly most of the references (Gnosticism etc.) were removed during localization, since the Treehouse translators did not understand them, found it weird and replaced them by Simple English.

>>13567632
>Supposedly most of the references (Gnosticism etc.) were removed during localization
Unlike the censorship, we've had no proof of that that I know of.

>>13567632
Wow, fucking idiots.

>>13567641
BLADE is proof.

>>13567730

That's a name, not the script. This isn't like if you removed how Xenoblade was about math.

>>13567764
The references were subtle. BLADE is one such subtle reference.
The meaning of BLADE and its goal and mission is part of the story.

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still the best xenoblade mech

The problem with XCX is the problem with every Takahashi game: he doesn't know how to finish a game narratively.

All of his games START strong and really compelling. Then about 2/3 in he always takes his narrative to the cliff of quality and says "welp, it's not gonna kick itself". Every time, without fail, it happens. You can blame budget and time restraints for gameplay issues and the game having to be all story after a certain point. You CAN'T blame it on the story itself going up its own ass in symbolism at the cost of the characters.

As Harlon Ellison once said

>“The only thing worth writing about is people. People. Human beings. Men and women whose individuality must be created, line by line, insight by insight. If you do not do it, the story is a failure. [...] There is no nobler chore in the universe than holding up the mirror of reality and turning it slightly, so we have a new and different perception of the commonplace, the everyday, the 'normal', the obvious. People are reflected in the glass. The fantasy situation into which you thrust them is the mirror itself. And what we are shown should illuminate and alter our perception of the world around us. Failing that, you have failed totally.”

Yes, worldbuilding makes a setting feel more alive, but nothing accomplishes that more than the people living in that world.

>>13567793

literally the biggest bitch on the block character wise.

>>13567790
Technically BLADE is more of a reference to Shulk's endgame dialogue about forging their own destiny. ...Which they changed for some reason, just like the union Colepedian was a reference to the Collectopedia from the first game.

>>13567764
You mean monads.

I only have enough room on my Wii U for the basic pack and the enemy/monster pack.

Will I be fine? How necessary are the armor/skell loading packs? Does it take a while to load them in the menu's without those packs?

>>13568030
You might want to look up what Logos means.

>>13568082

Monad doesn't just mean philosophy, it also has to do with mathematics in programming.

Which lends a LOT to explaining how the Monado works. It's a gameshark, a cheat code device. It's using math to rewrite the universe locally like a Yuki Nagato in sword form.

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>>13567793
yaldabaoth tho

>yfw the TTGL scene

>>13568539
And it was the name of that rogue satellite from that one episode of Star Trek.

>>13568539
I never said which monad it was.

Because if you stuck to one kind of monad, you'd marginalize stuff like how the Monado is a reality shaping device, or the meaning behind the I AM MONADO line and the preceding discovery of Shulk's own personal Monado.

The game was originally Monado, if anything this is the big hint that monads of all kinds are thematically important.

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>>13567335

What is this "Real Thing" you speak of?

>>13567275
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>>13567291

What is this Doll Level mechanic? You buy a frame of a certain level yes but, Do you upgrade the frame to a higher level? Or you have to buy a new Skell altogether?

>>13568721
Skells level up separately from characters.

>>13568571

And the shitty version in MST3K that was obsessed with perfection.

>>13568875
No, the joke mst version was called Monad. The Star Trek version was called Nomad.

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>>13567422

Even this one? Not sure what it is to.

>>13569429
I don't think that's a robot.

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>>13569495

That's why I said I was not sure what was it.

>>13569614
>>13569495
>>13569429
>>13567422
It's the cat people that are samurai themed, not the Ganglion (Growth).
Also that's not a robot.